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2d3877 No.15050588
Some autist is reverse engineering the Retro Studios Engine so they can port Metroid Prime to PC.
5cc004 No.15050646
Nice, as long as it means my dream of being able to play Prime 1 & 2 mods can come true. Is it possible to DX11 that like Gothic 2/Open MW?
e1421f No.15050665
9bc326 No.15050677
>>15050588
I personally don't get why though.
2d3877 No.15050703
>>15050646
Pretty sure that it will be possible.
094bcd No.15050758
>>15050677
1:1 mouse aim, weapon/other hotkeys, FoV adjustment, mods.
094bcd No.15050766
>>15050677
Forgot to add higher FPS cap, not sure if MP ran at a constant 60 with no slowdown or not.
9bc326 No.15050798
>>15050758
>>15050766
Ok, you can go a long way from GC graphics.
Its a personal oppinion of mine then. I just bought the prime trilogy for wii and never felt like i need the HD.
Does he make a custome rom for dolphine to emulate, or really a new game? What does reverse-engineering mean in this context?
2d3877 No.15050860
>>15050798
I assume it's an engine recreation that you can use to load the original game files and run them natively on your PC like OpenMW.
982f0a No.15050900
>>15050758
>run dolphin
>4x native resolution
>configure the controls
>set widescreen mod
>runs perfectly
WOW, it's like magic. This guy surely needs to spend years of his life doing something that is already done.
Let me guess, he set a patreon to it or literal retard?
9bc326 No.15050912
>>15050860
engine recreation would be dope. but a quick google showes, that this is a controversial discussed possibility. i mean the unreal engine rumor.
>>15050900
he shure does. and he fills his website with stupid descriptions, to show hes dead serious about the whole thing.
3c3801 No.15050924
>>15050900
>configure the controls
If you think mapping the Wiimote to the mouse counts as actual mouselook, you're deluded.
9bc326 No.15050949
>>15050924
seconded. mouselook is the way first person is to be experienced.
but come on, the game was taylored to the gamepad. For more samus there will be mp4.
5c8e06 No.15050963
>>15050924
yeah it's not a replacement.
85659a No.15051032
I hope the guy succeeds but they will probably get a cease and desist.
b78a6e No.15051104
was dolphin not good enough?
4c1012 No.15051126
>>15051104
The dolphin mouse as Wii remote control scheme is okay, but still kind of awkward at times, since you need to move your mouse all the way to the edge of the screen to turn, it's much more intuitive when using the remote and far less so with a mouse.
I'm sure the author is just doing the porting job to test himself and because he loves the game that much, it's less so does he need to do it, and more he just wants to.
cbafaa No.15051183
>>15050924
>Wiimote
>Metroid Prime was made for Gamecube
>runs better on a dual-shock in dolphin
>for maximum autism you can even buy a cheap wiimote and plug on your PC
Are you autismal or on it for the money?
I don't really get it.
eeb0dd No.15051184
>he announced it before he finished
Great, now he's going to get C&D'd.
Fucking idiot.
c5a0ae No.15051201
>>15050588
Isn't it just running on Unreal Engine 2?
00be45 No.15051222
>>15051183
Are you retarded that you'd rather play a shooter with anything but a mouse?
997c2b No.15051240
That's pretty cool and a monument to autism, although I worry about how true KB+M will affect the difficulty of the game. Even on Dolphin with wiimote aiming, the turning around isn't incredibly fast, so adding improved maneuverability might make the game a fucking cakewalk. Still, a nice experiment.
>>15051184
Or it would be nice if it got actually released. Every time. Every single fucking time someone is doing something cool, they blab about and it gets shut down. It's been fucking happening since Chrono Resurrection and it will continue happening.
So, bets. I'll give him around a year, since the channel is small, so it'll be time before some fuckface blogger talks about it, Ninty gets wind of it and shuts him down since we can't have fans improving on our work.
fa976e No.15051258
>>15051184
Why don't they listen? Why don't they learn?
fa976e No.15051275
>>15051240
I doubt it will even be a week, since Nintendo has its own bot in the wild to make strikes on content.
000000 No.15051328
>>15051184
surely they can't shut down my shitty smash fangame on TOR, right?
067665 No.15051364
>>15051258
>>15051240
Because it's the perfect excuse, if they planned to really release it, they would remove the IP parts and release it anyway or do it illegally(as AM2R was).
But "muh C&D, sorry guys, it's not laziness and lack of interest or lack of skills to finish it, it's the ebil capitalism".
fa976e No.15051429
>>15051364
Almost reminds me of the XL Engine guy who dropped his project because Bethesda was just ignoring him.
2f9346 No.15051501
>>15051429
>XL Engine guy who dropped his project because Bethesda was just ignoring him.
what?
2d3877 No.15051540
>>15050900
>being this fucking retarded
eeb0dd No.15051551
>>15051364
That doesn't make any sense.
They could just stop working on it altogether, nobody knows they're working on it anyway so why would it matter?
c5a0ae No.15051556
>>15051429
Your post makes no sense without some context
fa976e No.15051572
>>15051501
That's the last I heard, they were trying to court Bethesda for a job, basically. Their blog is 404 and their forum is spam.
2d3877 No.15051609
>>15051201
No, it's being built from the ground up.
5cc004 No.15051695
Let me correct my previous statement, openmw doesn't work with those mods that use the GE graphics enhancer, which probably uses dx11.
f81d07 No.15052431
>>15051450
In before "Game is cancelled. I am a huge Nintendo fan and I will respect their wishes not to release the game. You should all support Nintendo by buying [some desperate shit] to show them how much you care. Please don't hate Nintendo for this, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah"
db5f21 No.15052455
Can't you play the first game on the Wii using Dolphin on the Metroid Prime Trilogy and emulate with mouselook that way?
d8bcfd No.15052464
>>15052431
>reacting before watching
The whole point of the video is.
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT YOUR PROJECT UNTIL IT IS DONE AND UPLOADED.
f81d07 No.15052476
>>15052464
No, you idiot. That's what I was talking about. My statement is an addendum to that video in question and a response to the OP's video.
405163 No.15052571
5401ef No.15052600
>>15050588
That's cool as fuck, but they should shut the fuck up about it or Nintendo will bring the banhammer down on them faster than the time it takes for a whore to pull off a 10 dollar sloppy blow job
cfa829 No.15052913
>>15051450
He makes a neat point.
It's not even about companies being massive dicks about it and shutting down projects because they're literally Satan. EA would do this though, no doubt.
The whole copyright laws are so fucked, if you DON'T cease and desist, you're gonna have every other AAA company copying your shit with impunity.
In an age where an IP is worth billions, the risk of seeing it evaporate in the air like that probably makes a lot of suits shit their pants in fear.
More than fight corporations, folks should be fighting these draconian laws. Right now, they're not protecting the fans nor the corporations themselves. It just harms everyone all the time.
db27e2 No.15053077
>>15052913
disney will never let the copyright system be unfucked, and they government will side with whatever comerration has the most money and lobbyists
1e5d46 No.15053089
>>15052913
>More than fight corporations, folks should be fighting these draconian laws.
Preferably armed
cfa829 No.15053125
>>15053077
Yeah, I've looked into it purely for curiosity and discussion with friends, and aside from a few other companies, The Mouse is the main proponent of this shit.
They're really fucking pissed about Pixar and other small studios even existing. În the first 3 years Pixar opened doors, there were two dozen lawsuits. Literally asphyxiating the competition in legal fees. Disgusting.
>>15053089
There's another way to fight laws. Make them unenforceable. If 1000 commit a crime and you only persecute 10, those ten can legally demand to be treated the same way as the other 990. Which means that either Mickey slaps thousands of people in the joint, or they walk free. One of my dream projects for when I'm older is to create a society of copyright breakers and then spread it worldwide. And just go to town shitting on copyright day in, day out.
Maybe even make some cash out of it and assure people that all of it, ALL, will be used to fight Disney in the courts.
I can already see me or some other PR guy in an interview: "yeah, we got a couple million people donating several million dollars just so we can drag Disney around in the courts out of their own volition until they kill themselves with legal fees. We were mostly bored, had nothing to do and this seemed like a fun hobby.**
I just noticed that my auto correct turns "disney" into "Disney". How fucking scary is that?
dfab33 No.15053174
>>15053125
>The Mouse is the main proponent of this shit
Let's be honest, it's the Jews in control of the company. Like always they shit up everything they come into contact with.
cfa829 No.15053270
>>15053174
I keep the (((Jew))) naming in pol, but yeah. It's a given.
f81d07 No.15053370
>>15052913
I guess that means Sega no longer owns Sonic and Valve no longer owns Half-Life. Oh, wait. Both Sega and Valve have said fan games are allowed and they still haven't lost their copyrights. Nintendo are just fuckers who don't want to risk losing profit to a better made fan game.
f81d07 No.15053393
>>15053370
Furthermore, can you think of a single movie or video game franchise that has lost their copyright because of fan works? People are recognizing your work with a tribute to its very existence.
cfa829 No.15053524
>>15053393
>>15053370
I'm not saying I agree with it.
I'm telling how things currently are. Which for the record: are fucking wrong.
>Sega/Sonic
There's a fuckton of people making money out of Sonic Knockoffs. I'm not entirely against it: they did put some work/effort into it and there's folks that clearly like and enjoy it.
On the other hand, half the reason they sell is because there's Sonic in it. I'd be pissed if I was a Sega employee. Tributes and fan projects are one thing, chinese knockoffs are another.
>Half life
Diferent thing there. Half life was never inteded to be an actual game. It's a very big tech demo for Source. The profit Valve made selling their engine to third party is nearly 100x what they made from Source SDK's.
We never got HL 3 because there's no source 3.
It's also the reason HL 3 will be shit: all it will need to do is showcase some new particle engines and maybe some AI algorithms.
The story/gunplay can be shit and the game might not even sell, but Valve will get a profit from it anyway.
5cc004 No.15053977
I was reading an FAQ of OpenMW (Morrowind), one question asked about being able to use xbox cd as the file to run the game with their engine executable. They said that bethesda doesn't want them to have console CD's to work on the PC. They want only morrowind on PC data to be used, and so they agreed. This is similar to Metroid's problem, where it will be console CD files used on PC. I would expect a C&D halt this entirely, just a thought.
716d8a No.15054060
Anyone knows how can I rip models, animations, textures and sounds off a gamecube iso ?
78ac35 No.15054079
>>15051184
>>15051275
>>15051450
Nintendo can't do shit legally as long as he's not distributing the assets or assets based on Nintendo IPs with his engine, same as emulators really.
Of course they could go the Sony way and just sue anyway.
c47596 No.15054195
Has anything like this ever been done before for a nintendo game? You'd think some autist like Pannenkoek would have reverse engineered the Mario 64 engine by now.
78ac35 No.15054203
>>15054195
There was a few attempts at a sourceport of Super Metroid, they all went nowhere.
09777d No.15054217
>>15053977
What the fuck is the difference? Data is data. What, they're worried that someone will spend $0.05 on a used Xbox CD instead of downloading a $10 game from their shitty digital storefront?
Anyone who wants to play it will get a copy of the game for free.
4d3323 No.15054252
>>15050646
>Prime 1 & 2 mods
>There may be an autist just itching to remake other Metroid games in Prime
>Zero Mission, Metroid 2, Super Metroid, Fusion with first person exploration
f26e3b No.15054396
4c5216 No.15054525
>>15050588
>Guy reverse engineers engine
>Releases level editor for engine
>Suddenly the dumbasses who've been trying to jury rig a level editor for Dolphin get btfo
This is the ideal outcome tbh
4b88d2 No.15054552
>>15050588
>uploading this shit before it's done
STOP DOING THIS DEVELOPERS, THIS KILLED RE2 WITH ROD LIMA BEING INVITED TO MAKE RE4 AND CAUSES NUMEROUS C&Ds STOP ADVERTISING THIS SHIT BEFORE IT'S DONE!
>>15050765
>can't even make a webm
>can't even use mp3tube or something for a lazy 3 second job
>just uploading hooktube links
This shit is the final symptoms of the death of this place I swear.
>>15054252
>>15054525
>fan games for all the metroid games
>dolphin fags btfo
64fc8a No.15054568
>>15053125
>using a phone
That's the really scary part.
b530d1 No.15054655
>>15053393
This. Corporate apologist is full of shit.
>>15053977
>console emulators are 100% legal
>ripping console ROMs is 100% legal
Try again, shill.
>>15054195
The Turok 1/2 engine recreations by Samuel "Kaiser" Villarreal (based primarily off the N64 rather than PC versions), though very late in the project he did get source access through Night Dive. Also, interesting trivia: Before Metroid Prime, most of the core Retro team worked at Acclaim on N64 FPSs like Turok/Shadowman/Armorines/South Park.
>>15054079
THIS
4b88d2 No.15054686
>>15054655
>implying emulators are illegal
What are you doing nigger? Only downloading games is illegal.
a44291 No.15054696
>>15052913
No, you idiot, copyright is not a "you don't protect it you lose it" right. That's trademark. No corporation is under any legal obligation to seek out any possible infringement of their copyright and stop it.
b530d1 No.15054717
>>15054686
I'm saying that since both emulators and ripping are legal, engine recreations distributed without assets are also legally unassailable.
fbf851 No.15054753
This is cool as fuck, but kind of pointless without mouselook. Also the dev has already completely fucked himself by talking about what he's working on before releasing it, expect a C&D very quickly before any real work is done on it.
98735f No.15054983
>>15051429
>XL Engine
what's that anon?
5c4a35 No.15054994
>>15051258
Cause they want someone to suck their dick for all the hard work they've been doing.
275417 No.15055135
>>15053977
There's no real legal grounds for that, Bethesda just asked them not to do that (presumably to get more people to buy the game new on Steam/GOG instead of using a pre-owned retail copy) and the devs agreed because implementing Xbox support would have been a huge pain in the ass for very little gain.
b530d1 No.15055150
>>15054696
Emulators, engine recreations, etc., aren't trademark violations unless they use the trademarked branding of the original product.
ffb86b No.15055183
>>15054994
As dumb as it is, it's understandable. People want to feel appreciated, even if they're not egotists.
>>15051184
>>15051258
>>15051240
They probably know they're taking a risk, but don't see silence as an option. They want feedback, and need validation to keep going. Keeping a team together is already almost impossible even without constraints like that.
I'm working on a similar project, and it gets really depressing working for years without being able to talk about it, gauge interest, or receive criticism. You're also not getting paid, so if you don't get positive feedback, the only rewards are self-improvement and whatever appreciation you might get when it's done, which you can't guarantee. What if the only people who might care about it as much as I do wind up disliking or ignoring it because I couldn't talk to them to make sure I was on the right track, and the whole several year project is a waste? It won't be the same without other people enjoying it. Questions like that keep me up at night.
bacabf No.15055218
>>15050588
Absolute mad man.
>>15051184
Building a new engine to run files for a game isn't illegal, and there's already an engine port for Super Metroid. Nintendo could C&D remakes on this engine though.
fe4a5c No.15055225
>>15050588
Do we know anything about the license?
bacabf No.15055252
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Super Metroid for PC engine port gameplay
http://forum.metroidconstruction.com/index.php/topic,4274.0/topicseen.html
>>15054983
Engine that was being built to run Daggerfall, and Dark Forces, and Blood, and Shadow Warrior. Older source code was eventually released, but it's quite old and missing a lot of the newer functionality that engine previews showed.
247f28 No.15055418
>More games for Nintendo to cease and desist.
cc118f No.15055710
>>15051572
> they
> their
What is it with people using "they/them/their" when the sex of the person is known? Lucius is a man. I can understand using it when talking about a non-specific person ("I received an anonymous tip; they said that something bad will happen"), but for fuck's sake, use specific pronouns when the sex is known ("My wife's son does not want to clean his room").
2b4f83 No.15055756
>>15055710
According to Bill Nye all genders are in a state of quantum indeterminacy that only collapse into a single possibility when the person in question states their gender for that specific minute of time. So to avoid being closed-minded and bigoted it's best to avoid saying any gendered words, even when speaking Spanish.