98701a No.15041497
Daily reminder that Bungie was capable of making Oni, yet wasted it's time on Halo for decades.
9f6935 No.15041515
Reminder that Rockstar was capable of making Bully, yet continues to waste its time on Grand Theft Auto to this day.
7b362e No.15041523
>>15041515
Bully was made by Rockstar Vancouver.
The GTA games are made by Rockstar North.
9f6935 No.15041552
>>15041523
True, but Rockstar Vancouver merged with Rockstar Toronto and the most recent game Rockstar Toronto has worked on is Grand Theft Auto V (in support to Rockstar North as well as being responsible for the PC port)
366d83 No.15042008
>>15041497
Don't remind me, it's one of gaming's saddest stories
a13862 No.15042046
>>15041515
Bully wouldn't work as a franchise though. It'd get old quick.
067543 No.15042063
Daily reminder that businesses require revenue in order to hire the talent they require to produce the quality you expect.
38f7e8 No.15042072
I tried to get into Oni, it didn't really gel with me.
4c5578 No.15042134
Bungie != actual living people that made Oni.
I doubt much of them were still there by the time they did first Halo.
What bothers me is how little r34 of Konoko is.
e97b71 No.15042142
>>15041497
Oni was fine, but nothing special.
e853e9 No.15042145
Oni sucked and halo was far better.
40a16c No.15042154
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Good.
Halo was better.
Feel nothing for their gay anime game.
5fddb7 No.15042158
>>15041497
better for it to only one game, dont want to image an Oni in current year.
5f53e4 No.15042161
>>15041515
>>15042046
Do you fags not remember that a disgruntled employee leaked Bully 2 concept art?
That shit is in development.
4c5578 No.15042162
>>15042158
There was an attempt.
It didn't fly so well.
e97b71 No.15042163
>>15042161
>That shit is in development.
*was
5fddb7 No.15042169
>>15042162
they actually did a preprepre-alpha of oni 2, but died, because reasons
aff368 No.15042170
>>15042161
this proves nothing to me. this could be anyone's art. Even if it was legitimately concept art for Bully 2, that means nothing. Concept art is one of the first things you do when making a game, the fact that it exists does not imply the game is still being worked on.
de79f7 No.15042181
>>15041497
>a developer is capable of making something good but spends decades making shit
Yeah, no shit.
3ae993 No.15042187
>>15042163
>was
What happened? Was it cancelled?
aff368 No.15042189
>>15042063
I think the current state of the AAA industry is proof enough that video games aren't just an endeavor you can throw money at in order to achieve greatness. Games have higher budgets than they ever have had before, and yet the quality is going down. People are still playing the original Doom today but do you think the same will happen to Doom 2016 in twenty years? Big budget games are a yearly occurrence, and every year people forget about the previous years games.
The problem is not a lack of money. A lack of talent may have something to do with it, but I'm more willing to believe it has to do with the business/political nature of the industry.
5fddb7 No.15042194
>>15042134
>r34
she is pure!
9b3ee4 No.15042197
>>15041497
I used to be a little kid playing this game why does time go by so fast
e97b71 No.15042205
>>15042187
Oh there's nothing that's been said officially, but when games get leaked early in development, especially sequels, things tend to not go well.
4c5578 No.15042266
>>15042194
>female police officer
>wearing skin tight bodysuits in public
>pure
5fddb7 No.15042287
>>15042266
>implying is not the best way to fight crime in CQC
nice digits by the way
3b251d No.15042299
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>>15042187
here's the story. They went on to make Red Dead Revolver, then RDRedemption down the line.
5f48e6 No.15042303
>>15042161
They canceled it because they knew they couldn't compete with Ed, Edd n Eddy Online.
3b251d No.15042304
>>15042134
Just look up porn of Motoko Kusanagi and imagine her with a bad haircut
058a4e No.15042307
Daily reminder that Oni wasn't even very good and you're not a special snowflake for liking it.
3b251d No.15042321
>>15042307
It wouldn't be /v/ if we didn't praise mediocre games that predate more popular games just to look cool.
5fddb7 No.15042370
>>15042299
>THQNordic will never buy the IP and make an HD edition
c73e9d No.15042488
>>15042154
this, Halo was worth the effort while Bungie had it
98701a No.15043392
>>15042307
Nonsense. It was like a better version of God Hand.
81cd6c No.15043435
>>15042376
That's some tasty bait
9af9d7 No.15044138
Ok so I finally gave this game a shot despite my misgivings about how the level designs look. The combat is exceedingly good and the amount of challenge on Normal difficulty is spot-on. It's very possible to be killed by just one guy and having to fight two at the same time is dangerous as it should be. Grapple attacks are satisfying as fuck and having directional attacks (e.g. back+punch = elbow strike behind you, right+kick produces the action in the OP screenshot, diagonal attacks are possible as well and so are running variations of each) is impressive as hell, it feels like a true three-dimensional fighting game.
The presence and utility of firearms are well-balanced despite the focus on hand-to-hand combat; they can really turn a situation around and feel very threatening when an enemy uses them. Weapons also feel very tangible because all weapons that enemies use can be picked up and used by your character as well, it's just unfortunate that dropped weapons disappear after a while.
I also like how your character often has a different outfit for different missions. Fighting alongside allied AI is really fun as well and it's rewarding to keep them alive. The level designs are still kinda bad and each has too much symmetry/copy-paste layout but they're not that offensive because the levels are short and don't overstay their welcome. So far I'm only on chapter 5 so I don't know if the game's quality holds up until the end.
Getting the game to run smoothly on a modern system is a pain in the ass though. I got the patched .exe and C-Daodan .dll but the game still had microstutters. I think I finally have it fixed now that I'm using QindieGL which is a wrapper that emulates OpenGL to DirectX 9. Daodan features such as alt-tab and borderless windowed mode no longer work but I can live with that. Lens flare effects from emergency vehicle lights have gone missing but they are rarely present in the game anyway.
3e4407 No.15044163
>>15042304
>Just look up porn of Motoko Kusanagi and imagine her with a bad haircut
14cdf1 No.15044170
>>15041497
Not just Oni, they made Myth and Marathon, yet all of those great franchise were left to die so they could focus on the dudebro tumor they shat out.
d9263c No.15044191
>>15041515
What game is that from? Looks like modded Bully.
c63e8f No.15044222
>>15044138
I got to what seems to be the last chapter and gave up because I was playing on the hardest difficulty and that shit's near impossible, if you're still on chapter 5 you haven't seen shit yet, plot wise it gets pretty whacky. The game is pretty solid but if I could go back I wouldn't play it on hard or whatever it was, it's literally unfair and all the odds are skewed against you. Some enemies seem to have almost as much health as you do or even more and their attacks can deal like half a bar of health of damage, also the AI is very, VERY unpredictable and you can never tell what they're gonna do so you just kinda toss yourself into the fray and hope everything goes well, ultimately making some engagements based on luck rather than skill, even if you got gud. Level design wise is ok, however there's some parts where they put in a huge open area and have enemies with guns at the other fucking end of the stretch, or have you on one side of a building and place snipers on the other side.
14cdf1 No.15044228
>>15044222
The game had a very troubled development. If anyone remembers the mech they showed in the trailers, it was cut, and much more as well. Also, I remember Bungie boasting how the levels had been designed by actual architects, not game developers, and it shows, especially with how drab they are.
52bc03 No.15044267
>>15041497
>>15044228
>so many features cut
>lan multiplayer already working
>iron demon mecha fight cut
>modding crippled by reliance on then-expensive autocad & 3ds max for assets
>>15042134
Oni was Bungie West's inaugural project, many of the personnel from which were merged back into Bungie (then working on Myth II) afterward on the Halo project.
>>15042154
>originally revealed as awesome online multiplayer cooperative dynamic open world campaign
>like a scaled down planetside with a real single-player style story, basically everything destiny failed at, over a decade earlier
>stripped down to insultingly linear sequence of scripts glued together with cutscenes auto-aim "game" because it had to run on a console with 64mb ram
>in spite of far less ambitious and more fixed design scope, sequels were even more rushed and threadbare
>>15042307
Bait aside, though. Since I've never been much of a console gamer, can ANYONE think of some other games that tried to mix good 3D beat-em-up mechanics with good 3D 3PS mechanics? Closest thing I can think of is the Jedi Knight games.
>>15044170
Also remember the "secret" quasi-Bungie games, Stubbs the Zombie, and Odyssey plus the cancelled Duality.
140f1c No.15044326
>>15044267
Warframe, except it's third person and it's not so much a beat-em-up as it is a simplified stylish action game.
6626f9 No.15044328
>>15042321
This. Nostalgiafag cancer is immense and deep rooted problem. Here's a thing you can do nostalgiafags, instead of parroting how great the game is try to replay it and see if it holds up. Protip: it never does.
15bdfc No.15046421
>>15042134
>I doubt much of them were still there by the time they did first Halo.
Microsoft already bought up Bungie before Oni even released, and part of the buyout negotiation was that they were allowed to finish up work on Oni for Rockstar. So it actually released on PS2 while the studio was owned by Microsoft.
Also, Halo development pre-dates the MS buyout.
MS acquired them in June of 2000, and Oni released at the end of January 2001.
86e6f0 No.15046459
>>15044138
>all weapons that enemies use can be picked up
that shit blow my mind away when i was a wee little lad
if you finish the game you can use cheat codes and play as different characters for shit and giggles.
14cdf1 No.15046623
>>15046459
Not only can you play as different characters, but each of them has a different moveset too.
1ad51a No.15046659
>>15041497
Daily reminder game devs like money. So do you.
86e703 No.15046771
>>15046659
>liking Rothschild silkpaper
734e49 No.15046910
>>15044328
>implying there are any games that have been able to combine 3D beat-em-up mechanics and 3D 3rd person shooter mechanics half as well as Oni did like >>15044267 mentioned
>If you like an old game you're a nostalgiafag.
000000 No.15047094
Where do you even find a copy of Oni these days?
966c18 No.15047209
>>15042046
>Bully wouldn't work as a franchise though. It'd get old quick.
And GTA hasn't it with its fence sitting LOLMERICA SUCKS GUIZ AIN'T WE SMART shit?
15bdfc No.15047283
>>15047094
>Where do you even find a copy of Oni these days?
I got a copy in good condition from a local Comic Book/Vidya/Hobby store for $5. They probably aren't going to last much longer though. To hear the owner talk, they've never been able to compete with GameStop for vidya (not much interest in anything but last and current gen), and comics have gone full poz and most of their regulars have quit buying comics or order more niche stuff from online. The only thing that's really saving them at this point is their Magic/Warhammer/D&D and other workshops which bring in regular customers - but the infection is spreading there in our local area now too. It's basically a ticking timebomb until the community gets to toxic and implodes, or some twitter twatters get their ass salted and starts a campaign against them at the local collage and on social media.
a839d9 No.15047292
ONI was hot fucking trash though. Halo is best.
42718b No.15047318
>>15044267
>can ANYONE think of some other games that tried to mix good 3D beat-em-up mechanics with good 3D 3PS mechanics?
WH40k Space Marine. I found both the melee and shooting pretty satisfying and switching from one to the other is pretty smooth.
9af9d7 No.15047443
>you can't pickup items/weapons on the ground while running or walking but you can while performing a dodge maneuver such as sliding or cartwheeling
Just like an action movie. The devs thought of everything.
Also, I really like how the game's challenge is not only through individual encounters but also through attrition. It's not like so many modern games where the player is able to recover all his health back quickly and it's unlikely for him to be thrust in an encounter without being at full health.
The game is also unlike most action games where encounters are confined in a room. You have to be conscious about the space you give to fight an enemy and avoid situations where you end up taking the fight into other areas where more enemies are waiting. And of course, this also means that you can't just easily back out of an encounter and despawn the enemies, they are able to chase you across the level.