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Once the 3ds dies this series will be relegated to phone games. I seriously hope you've realized this by now.

It felt a lot more casual than previous titles, especially compared to 1 and 2.

I'm wondering how the last one for the 3DS they're working on right now will play like.

>>15037149

I think its because they're trying to appeal to a wider audience to get more people interested in the series, so they lower the difficulty a bit, add a story mode and just hope for the best.

I haven't noticed any DLC locked away in the game besides the synth music and some portraits which shows they at least thought about how it affected their other EO titles.I hope at least

I can only hope 6 is any good, I know a lot of people want their EO3 Untold just to replay their broken combo classes but I think it's best they just keep making new titles.

>>15036820

I like EOV a lot because of how well balanced everything is. The difficulty curve is great and none of the classes feel useless. There's a little casualisation but it's mostly in the optional difficulty modes. It might be my favourite of the series, but I'd have to do another playthrough to be sure.

And if you care about story in an EO game you're doing it wrong.

>>15037112

what a faggot, pulling shit out of his ass and presenting them as facts

>>15037149

It might of been a bit more casual but the gameplay was a lot more balanced than other EO games. There wasn't stupidly OP classes that made the game absolutely trivial like EO1 Medic that reduced 80% of all damage, EO2 Hexer's Revenge damage that lets you 2 shot the post game's boss, EO3 NInja/Shogun or any of the ridiculous combo classes you can make, EO4 Imperial, etc. The upcoming game will have a bunch of features from the previous games and looks like it'll be a good swan song to the series on 3DS. I just hope that Atlus doesn't fuck up the series by transiting to the switch, Untold series is garbage but they redeemed themselves with EO5.

>>15037636

It's definitely one of the better EO games up there, probably tied with 2 as my favorite of the series. Anyone complaining about the lack of story in an fucking EO game should be shot on sight, it's refreshing how little story there is and you can just be an adventuring guild that just goes on journeys and build your own backstory/character traits with your imagination Some people don't like the customization features of 5 but I thought it was a fun way to give your characters more ways to be unique without sacrificing what makes EO so unique to other Japanese dungeon crawlers. And you could even turn off voices if you didn't like them.

>>15037841

Yeah, the lack of story is one of the things that makes the series great. I first played EO1 right after finishing Bravely Default, a game which was plot driven in the worst possible way: so many words but none of them were interesting or well written, every bit of dialogue in that game felt like padding. To go from that to EO's almost pure gameplay was unbelievably refreshing.

>Someone other than me likes EO2 the most

What a day.

>>15038574

Potatoes are lolis.

>>15036820

It's possible I'm just shit at the mechanics or building incorrectly, but trying to survive early game with just a Shaman as a healer is fucking painful. Maybe it gets better later on but early the Shaman buff heals just can't keep up.

>>15038584

I did the same. It was hard at the start but I don't find it too bad later on. If I remember right, you can choose to make the shaman focus more on buffs and whatnot so it becomes a better healer too.

>>15038584

Shaman pretty much needs someone to supplement their healing like a Rover or Necromancer, unlike a Botanist who can be the sole healer while everyone goes DPS or Tank. Shaman isn't bad however, they get better healing later on, on top of insane buffs that'll give you a huge edge in a lot of battles. They're better after you invested some points into your skills, good luck.

Also some information on Etrian Odyssey X

>19 Classes playable, 18 from all 5 previous games and 1 new class called hero that's a jack of all trades plus sub classing returning so you can make an insane amount of character combinations. These classes are:

Protector

Survivalist

Medic

Ronin

War Magus

Gunner

Zodiac

Farmer

Ninja

Sovereign

Shogun

Nightseeker

Landsknecht

Arcanist

Imperial

Highlander

Reaper

Pugilist

Hero

>biggest etrian odyssey game to date with new dungeons, optional dungeons, some returning dungeons with new traps and map designsto keep it fresh to people that played the previous games

>world map filled with smaller labyrinths, main labyrinths, and events to check out

>character customization from EO5 is back with more customization options than 5

>force break and burst returning

>EO5 difficulty choices returning with 4 options to choose from

>NPCs from previous games returning in cameos

>>15038687

Thankfully, all of the previous game portraits are returning for free, even if their class isn't in the game (for the first month anyways). But I'll just grab a copy of the game and pirate that DLC since I'm nostalgic for EO3 portraits. More than happy for all of the fanservice we're getting for people that been playing the series since the NDS

I need a new 3DS game to play on the trip to and from work. Is the one of this on 3DS a good starting point or is it shit?

>>15038700

>all of the previous game portraits are returning for free

Oh shit that sounds nice.

>>15038700

>Thankfully, all of the previous game portraits are returning for free,

nice!

>(for the first month anyways)

fug

>>15038726

Sorry I don't think I made it clear, it'll be free for the first month but then they're going to package each game portraits as Paid DLC. Pretty shitty but like I said I'm going to just grab it through freeshop. Buying a copy of EOX for myself though since I didn't get to buy EO5 because freeshop. Still having every portrait return is pretty cool

>>15038717

Any of the mainline titles are very good games, from 1-5. Untold is a retelling of 1 and 2 that made the game easier than the original and adds a pretty terrible story on top of it that feels out of place for Etrian Odyssey. The minimalist story in the mainline games are great because it lets you get more immersed into your characters and you get to build them however you like. If you want to get into the series, and only have access to a 3dsthen play either 4 or 5. If you have a DS to play off of then starting off from the first game would be a better bet.

>>15038661

Im glad nightseeker is coming back again, i loved clearing mobs with just an auto spread poison shuriken it was pretty great.

>>15038772

> To be fair, Untold DOES give you the option to play in "classic" mode, with the custom characters and without the superfluous story.

IIRC that's true, but you keep the "rebalanced" gameplay, not the original stuff, so it's still not 100% good.

>>15039759

No major story continuation. Some few characters show up in different places or are references, but it's never a major issue or given huge weight, and if you don't know who they are you miss nothing, it's just a "hey I remember so-and-so" bit of plot/fan-service.

Just jump right in wherever you like. I recommend 4, since it's the easiest to get in to and it has a fucking airship world-map.

>>15038584

I don't know what people are talking about, Shaman is the absolute best healer for the early game, you just have to ignore trying to buff with them and focus solely on healing at first. Stick one point in the cheap accuracy buff and then max the passive healing and the cost reduction skills. They can heal 20+ hp for the whole party every turn at a cost of only 2 tp, which is huge for the first stratum.

Second stratum gets a bit more difficult but then you open up masteries and they get a lot more healing tools. I got all the way the the fifth stratum with just a Shaman for healing (except one bullshit boss fight). The only real downside is having to rely on items for resurrection, which is less of a problem than it was in earler games because they're so cheap now and you have food too.

>>15038661

Loonig forward to this, but I'm still sad they're not bringing back the Hexer. And I guess they're going for an EO4 style overworld, but I always liked the feel of having a single dungeon that you gradually delve deeper into. I would have preferred something like 3's sailing.

>>15038661

With all of these classes coming back into this new game with the ability to subclass what kind of combos are we looking at here. The possibilities are pretty huge considering all of these.

>>15044561

It's way better than a 3rd Untold since they would most likely fuck that up.

>>15042076

>Imperial/Zodiac triggers absurd damage for Sovereign's Link Order

>War Magus/Arcanist can use Circles to handle healing duties while also inflicting status ailments to activate Ailing Slash.

>Pugilist/Ninja clones himself and activates Landsknecht Links and Shogun's Warrior's Might several times over.

Man, 2021's gonna be a great year.

>>15047244

How will they even balance this game I wonder. With so many ways to break it, I'm wondering if monsters will be buffed or they'll start making it where you sometimes fight waves of monsters.

>>15052754

Im thinking maybe war magus/night seeker parties but im not entirely sure how broken they can be. Or whether or not they're going to tone down the skills a bit for subclassing

>>15053592

They'll probably do it like EO4, where the number of skill points you can invest in a skill is cut in half if it's from your subclass. I think that made things a little less broken than in EO3.

>>15042076

From the top of my head I'll be making an Ronin/Ninja, Medic/Farmer, Highlander/Shogun, Zodiac/Arcanist, and Survivalist/Pugalist.

I'll think of some more niche combinations once I get a better handle at the game, I'm going to sink a lot of hours with how much replayability EOX will seem to have.

>>15052754

There will be a new difficulty that's harder than Expert called Heroic. I'm guessing they will balance the game with that difficulty in mind.

>>15058161

I'm thinking Nightseeker, War Magus, Prince, and Reaper with an Arcanist. Not sure how i'll sub them just yet but i want a party that can bind/status whole mobs of enemies while taking out the ones that have been status'd with skills that boost damage on enemies that have ailments.

>>15038700

>for the first month anyways

when is that game coming out?

>>15066478

It seems to say 2018, 8, 2 which is probably august 2 of this year

>>15067327

Where did you get this information from?

>>15067483

It's from the official website.

http://sq-atlus.jp/sqx/

>>15067327

I kind of like that they always announce these games so close to the release date, it means we don't have to wait long.

Maybe this time it won't take over a year to be translated.

>>15068573

I think the only reason the last one even took that long is because their big P5 project was close to release.

>>15072700

I was already thinking of just buying a jap 3ds and importing it myself, the game looks great

>>15073714

Just do homebrew.

>>15073782

>>15073714

This, its very easy to do and lets you play region locked games. I have a homebrewed 3ds but im still buying it once it comes stateside, I'd love to get my hands on a special bundle if they end up doing one.

>>15067502

>nip release

oh, oh fuck, no world on gaying release date?

>>15074019

Obviously. It took them a year for them to even announce the release for 5, so hope they don't repeat that bullshit.

Any Touhou clone of EO out there?

>>15074678

Touhou Labyrinth and Touhou Labyrinth 2 are both pretty good.

First one is good, but its postgame eventually gravitates to bosses that are just 'does damage then when weak prepares for instakill'. Also, EVA is broken, so never bother with it. Second one is a lot better in a number of ways, particularly with the addition of special mechanics for different characters (like Hina absorbing debuffs from allies when she focuses, and treating debuffs as buffs instead). Both of them feature rotating party members between the active and reserve slots as a critical tactic you have to manage in serious battles.

>>15062552

That's kinda similar to the team I've been thinking up.

>Pugilist/Ninja: Bunshin for easy Lead Blow setup

>War Magus/Undecided: Ailing and Bind Slashes

>Nightseeker/Gunner: Follow Trace + Double Action, Point Blank Throws, maybe some Bind Snipes if I have the SP

>Survivalist/Reaper: Resistance, Offense, and Accuracy Debuffs, Ailment Shots during off turns

>Arcanist/Sovereign: Attack + Guard Order, Circle heals

It's kinda hard to decide on a subclass for War Magus.

>Nightseeker: More ailments, but using two of the same class feels lame when the cast is this big

>Landsknecht: Linking covers physical resistant enemies, but it might be SP intensive, and if it requires the improved link buff, then that prevents him from taking advantage of Overexertion.

>Protector: I could use extra defense on the turns when he's not using Ailment Slash, but having 3 characters acting as support limits damage.

>>15080558

If War Magus' ailing and binding slashes are physical i'm thinking of maybe boosting their damage using a nightseeker sub for proficiency.

I was thinking of using a bushido but it seems like that class didn't make it into the game this time around sadly.

>>15082077

>Bushido

If you mean Ronins then they are in.

>>15082174

Maybe he meant EO4's Bushi.

>>15082361

This is the bushi I was talking about, the ability to increase your damage a shitfold just by buffing up and taking damage every turn along with ailing strike would probably be pretty good.

>>15082492

I kinda miss having Gladiator as a subclass for physical characters. The only EOX class that I remember having any charge skill is the Zodiac, and that only works for elemental attacks. Here's hoping Landsknecht will get some kind of Charge even though it's the EO4 incarnation.

>>15083339

I loved the gladiators mace route and the ability it had to hit the enemies besides the one you were targeting. The only problem i had with it was that it seemed to make you train both sword and mace mastery for some of the better skills instead of just focusing on a single line.

>>15083602

Buccaneer had that same problem with Swashbuckling and Pincushion. I hear EOX is getting designed to be less prerequisite heavy, so tht's nice.

>>15083644

Yeah it was a bit of a let down to see they didn't bring the buccaneer back either which was probably my 2nd favorite class in that game. It could've worked pretty well in tangent with the gunner subclass or vice versa.

Here's also hoping they reduce the tp cost of some of the higher level skills, or at least keep the nice Union skills we have.

>>15083738

Doesn't look like Union's coming back.

>>15083790

That's a shame although I hardly ever used them anyway but they were pretty handy for rounding out teams without proper healers or revives. Although I've got to say chain blast is pretty fucking broken. I guess they decided it wasn't necessary considering the classes that are coming back this time.

Hopefully with the upcoming game we get another great Arranged Soundtrack and doujin remixes, Etrian Odyssey has an surprisingly amazing doujin scene doing takes on classic Etrian Odyssey songs. TheFabulousTroupe does god's work by uploading most of the albums for our listening pleasure.

>>15094423

I was reading the manga that was about EO2 and how a gunner forms a party with a ronin and a war magus to take on the lab. I caught up to it right as they got to the 2nd strat and overall i thought it was a pretty good read.

>>15094557

Haven't read that yet but it sounds interesting enough. I was talking more about EO doujin music scene though, a lot of very good tracks from many albums floating around