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>>15029821

Some of the older Mega Man games have sections that are pretty bullshit like that. It was just the design philosophy in older games that they would periodically throw something at you that was either very difficult or impossible to get through unscathed. I never tried to do a Mega Buster-only run on Mega Man II but Wily's definitely a cheap bastard.

>>15029863

It's bizzare because most things are pretty well designed, it's just that, the birds in Crashman stages and airman that are particulary bullshit.

And well, this one stage with the turret, where you are pust midway in the stage if you lose to the boss, and one fuck up means you don't have enough bombs to go on. FUCK THAT STAGE

I just finished the game, honestly it would be fun if it wasn't so fucking cheap at the time. Did later entries fix this problem?

Also what games in the series are particulary worth playing?

GIT

>>15030045

Mega Man games don't give a fuck about your feelings, they're all like that. 1 is probably the only one that is really "cheap" since you can die from clipping through platforms by standing on the edge of them, and it has some niggerish enemy placement.

1-4 and 6 are the best ones, I like 4 the most, personally. 5 is lazy as fuck, 7 is pure trash, 8 is a cringefest with retarded level design, and 9&10 are soulless cash grabs for nostalgiafags.

>>15030119

>not liking 10

you're just being a contrarian

>>15030051

RAPED

>>15030163

10 is okay but it's casual as fuck even on normal. Also removing slides and charge shots for MM2fags is cancer.

>>15030298

If you're a huge casual or a graphics whore you won't like them. The earlier games even have limited lives and continues.

>>15030298

you must be 18+ to post

>>15029821

I've been playing the shit out of MM2 since it came out, it was the only MM game I owned until X, and I almost always do a buster-as-much-as-possible run. I always thought leaning on the metal blade was cheating horseshit.

I never thought about a true 100% buster only run. I'm not sure such a thing is actually do-able, cause you have to use crash bombs in one section, etc. But you could define the buster-as-much-as-possible run and then double challenge yourself with a no damage run, but holy hell, I can't even image anyone actually doing it. If you can beat MM2 with mostly buster and no extra lives or E tanks…you're gud. If you can do a no-damage run, you're fucking-a gud. If you manage to pull off a buster only no damage run, you're a MM god.

>>15030463

Isn't Wily's final form immune to damage from everything but the Bubble Lead?

>>15030119

Megaman 8 was a masterpiece

"We have to get doctor whywee!"

>>15030045

All the Mega Man games are mostly the same, at least the ones that are just Mega Man and not X or Zero or whatever. If you feel things are "cheap," the NES entries become much easier as the series goes on. 7, 8, and Mega Man & Bass get harder again though.

People saying one or another is shit are exaggerating. It makes sense to have personal preference, but they're the same fucking game every time. If you like one you'll like them all, unless you're a bitch who can only beat 6 or something.

The ones on Game Boy are all worth playing, too. And the one on WonderSwan.

The first few Mega Man X games are also pretty similar, but there is more emphasis on collecting secrets (which there is a little of in the later NES games), so you have to backtrack and really explore if you want to really beat them. Some people might like that, but sometimes you just want the quick run and gun gameplay from the original series. Also, the X series gets retarded over time with emphasis on Inafune's OC DO NOT STEAL Zero, so you end up playing with a sword half the time and it barely feels like Mega Man. Then you get a whole series of this with Mega Man Zero.

>>15030419

Uh… no they don't. Losing a life sends you back to a checkpoint, losing all lives sends you back to the beginning of the level. You're never made to restart the game. Though lack of passwords for the final few stages is a bitch, just because you can't turn the game off.

>>15031149

>All the Mega Man games are mostly the same

But Megaman 3 just feels way cooler than 2 in every respect, it feels different now that I started playing it. The levels look better, they added a dash move, Protoman jumped at me while playing a stage, and everything just seems really great. I don't think you can say that they're the same.

If you like one you'll likely at least enjoy them all. Once you git gud at one you're gud at them all which is really nice. If you end up playing them all by the time you get to whichever game you saved for last you'll find it easy and you just might have a great time dominating the enemies and bosses.

Lemons only is typically how I play at least until the Wily stages. Yes you can get past that Wily machine with just the buster. Don't walk off platforms in the first game, especially over pits or spikes, even if you should be able to simply fall to the next platform like how you would in any other game.

>>15030119

Fuck you. 5 is fun and more creative than 4.

>>15030512

YUP

>>15030119

>6 are the best ones,

6's only redeeming qualities were that 2 Americans made robot masters (one was pretty cool), and it was harder than 5. It kind of sucked tbh. 9 was alright, but 10 was nostalgia trash (I didn't even bother with weaknesses let alone beat it because I just couldn't care enough to finish it).

>>15030119

> Thinking 8 has bad level design

> Probably doesn't fly around the map only using Buster and Mega Ball

What a cock holster. The voice acting and cutscenes are pretty bad though. The only bosses that don't suck are uh. Never mind, those also suck.

>>15030119

4 has good levels but suffers from every enemy having too much health. The designers probably wanted players to fully charge the Mega Buster on every single foe.

>>15030119

>5 is lazy as fuck

>every level has an ambitious visual or gameplay effect that makes it stand out such as GravityMan's gravity switching effects, GyroMan's elevator of fuck you, WaveMan's jet ski segment and bubbles, or CrystalMan's entire fucking stage aesthetic

they actually kind of pulled out the stops for 5. It's one of the more ambitious and inventive games in the series and tried to push what was possible on the NES.

And NapalmMan's stage got the game banned in Vietnam for hitting a little too close to home. How many games can say that?

>>15034086

you are correct. They were pushing the new mechanic and forgot about balance.

It could have been offset with rooms featuring many enemies with low health.

>>15029879

The birds during the climb section in Crashman's stage can only be avoided using a pause glitch, Airman's attacks can only be dodged if you get lucky with which wind patterns he sends, and Wily Machine 2 has such poor hitboxes that there's really no way to avoid taking damage.

All of these are beatable with buster only by damage racing them down, but you're going to get hit.

>>15034131

Lol no. 5 has shit like the copypasted crusher section from the Dust Man level in 4, and the lame Darkman bosses because they couldn't be bothered with coming up with 4 unique fotress bosses.

reminder that you can't really meme they were un-creative until X (number, not the X series) because after 2 it was all fan ideas about what robot masters should be added.

>>15034076

8 was almost entirely gimmick levels that played nothing like traditional MM levels.

>>15034086

This is factually wrong, MM4 is full of enemies that die from a single lemon. MM2 and 3 have enemies that are far more like damage sponges.

>>15034076

Megman 8 also had the best weapons I feel. Most weapons helped to facilitate movement.

Also it's the best looking one so far.

>>15034446

I've been replaying Rock Man IV. NOTHING dies from a single lemon unless it also dies from one pellet. Even enemies that die from two pellets can't be killed with a lemon. The lemon is fucking worthless.