2f11ac No.15029087
I have been thinking about giving this a shot. Anyone have any experience with it? Is it good?
db4ecf No.15029092
It's an MMO, what do you think?
7d4766 No.15029102
If you have to ask this, you're such a newfag that it hurts.
f09f46 No.15029126
2f11ac No.15029145
>>15029102
>>15029092
>>15029126
I knew you guys would give this kind of response but I made the thread anyway. My mistake. However, I know there are some people here that enjoy mmos because I have played with them before.
7d4766 No.15029169
At least i will use this thread as an excuse to vent about the engineer class:
FUCK YOU ARENA NET FOR MAKING SUCH A FUN CLASS ON SUCH A BORING SHITFEST OF A GAME
That class is fun and comfy as fuck, you put your turrets down, you can upgrade them, you can use a fucking blunderbuss, the "kits" are fun even though some are just gimmicky.
I want a game that isn't GW2/MMO with that class in it.
1d924e No.15029183
It's okay.
The core idea was to get people working together naturally and to try and do away with a didicated healer class, removing the dependancy on it and various different types of builds (dps, buffing, ect) for every class, allowing anyone to contribute.
It's worked in some ways; while there are builds that heal/buff they can't keep a group going on their own, you can't just facetank and expect someone else to keep you alive. Combat is simple (dodge attacks and/or block them with skills, smack the enemy) but fun.
However, this has swapped one problem for another; now dps is king and the class/build that does it fastest is the one you always see. Unless it's a raid it doesn't really matter though, I run around with builds which not wikibuild kosher and would make me a pariah in other mmorpgs.
The co-operation thing definitely works and there's no stick and lots of carrot for helping; everyone gets their own resource node instances so there's no fight over them, you all get your own xp and loot drop off an enemy, so there's every reason to wade in and help that player struggling over there, and in the first expansion pack every map has map-wide meta events that require players to split up into groups and work together to achieve an objective (and give you loot).
It's also free to player the base game, so you've not got much to lose though I will say the expansion packs really learned and built on the base game, they're much improved. Plus the latest one added mounts that have practical uses beyond flying and e-peen.
I still play so if you're interested I can tag along and help you find your feet.
2f11ac No.15029199
>>15029183
DPS is king? So what class/race combination would you suggest that I play for someone who typically enjoys the "Tank" role in traditional MMOs? Is there even such a thing as a tank?
e156f2 No.15029206
GW2 is to GW1 what the Thief reboot is to Thief.
850b5e No.15029212
Guild Wars 1 v2 never ever.
8c76ab No.15029241
>>15029199
The Guardian has really fun skills for that. But I haven't played in years so correct me if I say something wrong.
<Skills are are determined by what class and weapon you use
<1H gives 3, offhand gives 2, 2H gives 5.
<A Guardian using a Greatsword gets completely different skills than a Warrior for example
You also get to pick 2-3 (don't remember) class skills. For Guardian they range from minions, CC, AoE protection/heals, DPS etc. Simply a good variety.
Guardian has:
>2H Hammer with big AoE and CC
>2H Sword for AoE, DoT
>1H Sword mostly offence
>1H Mace Heals and defence baked into offence
>1H Scepter (ranged caster) Damage and CC
>1H Shield protects you and others
>1H caster off-hand provides heals, CC and defence
b8cb05 No.15029263
>>15029087
It's one of the better MMOs, and it's free to play, but don't expect anything but a pointless timesink.
8c76ab No.15029285
>>15029241
Forgot some stuff
>Staff has some medium range AoE, buffs and debuffs
>1H Axe has DoT
>Longbow has long range DPS, AoE and some CC.
1d924e No.15029295
>>15029199
The flavour of the week right now is Dragonhunter, a sub-class of Guardian from the first xpack. Guardian itself is for those who like protecting and helping others; they wear heavy armour and wade into battle like a warrior, but the warrior is more geared to fucking shit up. The guardian is geared towards fucking shit up while reducing damage and helping allies at the same time.
I honestly recommend you go with the one you like the look of more than anything. Outside of raiding pretty much any class with any build works, and if you want to raid you need the xpacks to do that which unlock subclasses that are used in raiding.
Except revenant, that class comes in the first xpack. I love it, but it's also a very, very fanservicy character for gw1 players. The fluff is they channel the powers of the dead; in practice they're a walking shoutout to gw1 characters and skills though that doesn't actually mean shit mechanically, ofc.
ce824f No.15029301
Are Necromancer and Ranger still bottom of the barrel worthless trash? :^)
The only things I remember from playing GW2 was okay combat for some classes since it didn't rely on tab targeting much but godawful story
Day of the rope for Sylvari when? The race that birthed both Traherne and Scarlet Briar needs to fucking hang
b8cb05 No.15029305
>>15029301
Necromancer is fine once you get some summons, It's not the powerhouse it was in Guild Wars 1, tho.
1d924e No.15029326
>>15029199
Shit, forgot to say: the races are basically aesthetic. They have racial skills but ANET have said they know the racial skills are considered underpowered and they have no intention to change this perception, as they don't want "X race only" shit happening for things like raids.
The tankiest classes are probably the base game's Guardian (for the mentioning buffing while fighting) and perhaps Revenant from the first Xpack; it's mechanically complicated to explain the class, but the abridged is you have weapon skills (affected by what you are weilding) and utility skills are affected by which stance you're in. One of the stances has skills related to reducing incoming damage (a bit) and healing you a bit for every enemy nearby (up to 3, iirc).
This is where shit can get complicated though; I play a ranger with a greatsword. The greatsword's auto-attack chain's third strike gives the ranger evasion, so every third strike with the sword I auto-dodge almost any attack in the game. I have traits that give me the Protection buff (-33% damage) when I'm hit, and Weakness (reduced damage) to nearby enemies. My healing skill has a fast recharge and shares boons with my pet, and vice versa, so even though I'm theoretically squishier than the Guardian or Revenant, I'm actually a bit of a shit to bring down. Does that make the ranger the tankiest?
At the end of the day though, most attacks are best simply being dodged, especially against larger bosses; even with the Protection they'll still oneshot you with many of their windup attacks.
1d924e No.15029340
>>15029301
No comment on Necro in raiding, since I don't. Outside of that, they're great; the subclass 'Reaper' you can unlock in the first Xpack is fucking great fun. The shroud turns into a scythe wielding melee machine. Ranger's Druid subclass is popular with raids for the healing and buffing it gives. I think it's tedium incarnate, and it doesn't help I dislike the sounds.
Both of them are dead now, thankfully.
>>15029305
I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't a minion limit in Guildwars I.
b8cb05 No.15029345
>>15029340
Yes Necro was the tits in GW1. You could get dozens of pets all swarming your enemies while you spammed debuffs and drained their health directly.
2483aa No.15029368
>>15029199
Chronomancer Mesmer is the best Tank/Support at the moment. The only difference between the two is the gear is altered slightly, honestly you can just use the same gear and switch some skills around. This isn't mindless btw, you'll need to be able to keep up buffs and time your invincibility frames and dodges well. You'll need the Heart of Thorns expansion to play the Chronomancer Mesmer build. There is a sale going on for a combo pack for the base game and 2 expansion packs at the moment. If you're lazy and just wanna face tank stuff, you're going to have a bad time, but core-warrior (no expansion) and spellbreaker-warrior (path of fire expansion) is the best at doing it.
>>15029295
Yeah.. nah, Firebrand at the moment is absolutely better than Dragonhunter at everything except burst damage, though overall dps is still better. Firebrand can provide support whilst still doing huge dps too and providing mass stability for all allies.
>>15029301
Shade Necromancer (Path of Fire Expansion) is the best class in PvP and WvW right now. They have mass boon stripping, mass boon corruption , huge AoE condition spamming (Burning, Bleeding, Torment) and provide additional support through their unique class mechanic of providing temporary HP shields for their entire group. Necromancers wear celestial armor for all stats so they can do everything or Trailblazer armor from the Heart of Thorns armor pack to become living bombs to allahu ackbar enemy armies in WvW.
1d924e No.15029369
>>15029345
I really, really like necromancer in gw2 as well. Problem is it's a bit overshadowed by shit like the condition damage revenants and dragonhunter guardians in raiding.
Outside raiding it's a non issue ofc.
f9b346 No.15029387
Do you want an action filled MMORPG with lots of freedom, interesting lore, a great community? Then stay the fuck away from GW2
Do you want to sit around town all day and pay hundreds of dollaridoos to play dress-up with you pwetty pwetty pwincess while doing some Goldshire tier ERP? Then get the fuck in here!
2483aa No.15029395
>>15029387
Amongst modern MMOs, GW2 probably has the most freedom of activity and actually encourages people to play together like you're supposed to in MMOs.
f9b346 No.15029405
>>15029395
Too bad the community is a bunch mouthbreathers who couldn't work together if they were siamese twins.
b8cb05 No.15029411
>>15029405
The game's mechanics are what allows the cooperation, not the players. The game doesn't penalize you for teaming up like a lot of games do, everyones loot is just for them and the XP awards are given for completing the "quests", not for making kills.
6de360 No.15029412
Is it still worse than Guild Wars, or has a miracle happened?
2483aa No.15029414
>>15029405
I have yet to see a failed tequatl, verdant brink, auric basin or palawadan since i started it up again last month. Though about a year ago i remember about half my Tequatls failing.
b8cb05 No.15029419
>>15029412
No it's much worse in nearly every way.
b8cb05 No.15029424
>>15029414
>>15029368
The Sjew bullshit is why I stopped playing this game, not because the game itself was bad.
2f11ac No.15029430
I'm a level 5 guardian atm and have no idea how my abilities are working and it feels like when I press buttons nothing actually happens.People are just running around in blobs killing npcs everywhere.
It looks like "quests" are area based? So you just do 1 of 3 actions in an area and then "complete" the area?
Movement feels kind of chunky and slow so far too.
6de360 No.15029437
>>15029419
Good to know. I was nearly thinking of purchasing the expansion pack back when they announced it was set in Elona.
f9b346 No.15029438
>>15029411
Yes, by making it mechanically almost impossible to fail. The world bosses are good examples, they upped the difficulty and some servers immediately failed to beat them. Granted this has gotten better because you get a bunch of people learning their shit eventually but the average player is still a retard. Also camping bosses was annoying as shit anyway. So was speed running the same two instances in full zerker gear over and over again.
How many currencies are there now? Two dozen?
b8cb05 No.15029439
>>15029430
Yes, quests are location based, you don't actually have to do any of them but ofc you're not going to have much fun as a level 1 in the higher difficulty areas.
b8cb05 No.15029440
>>15029437
Play the F2P, YMMV.
b8cb05 No.15029447
>>15029438
Boss camping is dumb imo, but I never understood teh appeal of grinding in MMOs. For the most part the game is almost insultingly easy, there are a few bosses who wtfpwned me, but even those are easy to kill if you just wait around for other players to come along and team up on it. The only thing I got out of the game was the tourism, the locations looked cool and there were some nice set pieces, I just wish there was a game worth playing to go with them.
34fe5d No.15029449
>>15029145
I loved the first Guild Wars, the second one sucks fucking shit. I played it for one day and dropped it, it was terrible. They're right, you're a newfag.
34fe5d No.15029453
>>15029430
This faggot actually bought Guild Wars 2 in the year of our Lord 2018
2483aa No.15029461
>>15029412
It's completely different. GW1 was a CORPG, cooperative online RPG. The combat system was modelled of the MTG card game.
GW2 is unique in it's own right, but more inline with typical modern MMOs with a slight actiony bent and personal responsibilty as opposed to depending on dedicated support/tank characters.
>>15029430
There are events which appear periodically and theres "heart" quests, to give players some direction if they choose. Nothing is mandatory, just run around and do whatever. Though I advise you to do as many skillpoint challenges as you can to unlock all your abilities.
>>15029438
I think the general playerbase has skilled up since they don't seem to fail anymore. Tequatl still has its new mechanics, Verdant Brink, Auric Basin, Dragon Stand still have the multi group coordination required. The Path of Fire areas seem very easy though, the bounty hunting system just has you go hunt big bosses, there are mechanics but with so many people you just rez eachother and down the boss eventually. It's not like the Heart of Thorns area where you need to do stuff on time or the whole server fails.
>>15029447
Boss camping isn't good anymore. Tequatl once a day for the bonus Dragon Chest is still good. Heart of Thorns Meta Events, Silverwastes, Cursed Shore and the Path of Fire Living Story area is what people do these days.
>>15029453
The base game is free to play now.
6de360 No.15029463
>>15029430
>"hey /v/ what do you think of this bad game?"
<"it's shit, don't buy it"
>"hurr /v/ hates all vidya"
>buys game
>turns out to be a piece of shit
Hope you're regretting your decision.
2f11ac No.15029469
>>15029463
>buys game
The game is free to play.
b8cb05 No.15029473
>>15029463
To be fair to that idiot, /v/ is ALWAYS wrong about games.
b8cb05 No.15029476
>>15029469
To play, not to buy. It's one of those "buy the game and get unlimited access to our servers", not a true F2P. Still it's only tenbux so w/e, it's practically free.
6de360 No.15029478
>>15029469
>they had to make their shitty B2P game F2P
Not surprising.
>>15029473
Except when /v/ isn't, in which case you regret wasting time on GW2.
2f11ac No.15029483
>>15029476
No, its free to play. You get the game for free if you make an account. The expansions seem to cost money, but I definitely haven't paid for anything.
122f02 No.15029486
>>15029430
>asks about playing GW2
>was told this was a stupid decision but made it anyway
>posts smug animu girls like it's some sort of defense against what he knows is coming to him
You killed a thread so you can showcase how much of a faggot you are by playing awful SJW shit. Neck yourself.
b8cb05 No.15029496
>>15029478
>Except when /v/ isn't, in which case you regret wasting time on GW2.
Even when /v/ is right, they're wrong. Also you will waste a LOT more money buying the games /v/ recommends than you would simply ignoring /v/ and buying games completely at random.
2f11ac No.15029497
>>15029486
Again, the game is free you sperg.
122f02 No.15029502
>>15029497
Picking up and eating the shit on the ground at a dog park is also free. Why don't you go do that instead?
5d8177 No.15029506
>>15029463
Retards don't have the capacity for regret. Regret is a long term and introspective emotion which forces you to accept, analyze, and overcome your mistakes. The retard, like an animal, can only experience the current negative stimulus resulting from the bad decisions they make. After this, the area of the brain which is responsible for regret in complete human beings, and which is clearly malformed in the retard like the rest of his judgement making faculties, makes a coin toss and either forgets the decisions the retard made leading to the negative stimulus, or wholly blames external factors for them. All in all, the only hazy memory of the event left wandering the spacious halls of the retard's skull is "gosh, that sure was bad luck that nobody could have foreseen!"
173ead No.15029569
It's shit just for the "we are reducing visual noise" BS change.
here is a before/after
2483aa No.15029613
>>15029569
been so long i didn't notice. this reminds me of the TF2 changes. Goes free to play, graphics get worse. They want toaster owners to be able to play it.
173ead No.15029651
>>15029613
back then they said the change was made for the E-sport .. yes GW2 aparently have a fucking e sport scene since it's not like it even increase performance .
the
>but they had to reduce it so because it was getting difficult to see what happend during combat
is pure BS, prooven by the 2nd pic>>15029569 : how can anyone in their right mind say this when "flame shield" is near totally hidden/invisible if you walk into tall grass ?
oh and: it's way cheaper to lower the Y axis of [insert particle effect] globaly, than offering the option to toggle on or off this change on self/allies/party/enemy …
0e1824 No.15029656
Women feminist project leaders managed to ruin the whole fucking game
GW2 became no fun allowed immediately after the betatest
2f11ac No.15029679
I wasn't really enjoying the "Guardian" class, so I decided to play an "Elementalist".
What can I expect?
1d924e No.15029692
>>15029430
Player name so I can bully you please
0e1824 No.15029700
>>15029679
there is no difference, all classes are identical everyone has a couple heals a couple area cc and nukes and a couple movement and defencive skills with a single long cd "ultimate" kind of like all assfaggot games have
3c032b No.15029701
>>15029679
if you dont have expansions start with engineer and stack precision, feriocity and power. Use grenades.
8c76ab No.15029702
>>15029679
I liked them, you change between the 4 elements and each has a unique skill bar depending on your weapon. No weapon swapping in combat though.
Switching to the right element and making full use of all your skills feels pretty rewarding.
Staff is good for group PvE since it's AoE and long range, good for tagging shit.
Daggers are fun to use with tons of mobility and medium to close ranged skills.
3c032b No.15029708
>>15029700
there is difference in DPS tho
b8cb05 No.15029717
>>15029679
Boredom and lots and lots of social justice.
b8cb05 No.15029719
>>15029708
The numbers are slightly different for each class but every class can do anything, and every race is identical in stats.
3c032b No.15029721
b8cb05 No.15029724
>>15029721
Good rebuttal fucktard. Go play the game as see for yourself.
0e1824 No.15029726
>>15029719
well you can but you shouldnt build to heal&tank with cloth armor classes (outside necromancer that can store lifeforce and basically have a 2nd health bar)
b8cb05 No.15029745
>>15029734
>muh sunk cost fallacy
Good job idiot, you wasted your time and your money.
3c032b No.15029753
>>15029745
Well then at least dont say things that arent true if you decide to shit on game you never played my friendo. GW2 is indeed shit but at least get your factiosos straight *raises paw*
b8cb05 No.15029760
>>15029753
You want this game to be better than it is because you've spent so long playing it, but it's bad and you should feel bad. Yes the numbers are slightly different, but every class plays more or less the same and every race is literally identical aside form a useless race skill you'll never use anyway.
3c032b No.15029763
>>15029760
>Yes the numbers are slightly different, but every class plays more or less the same and every race is literally identical aside form a useless race skill you'll never use anyway.
nope
122f02 No.15029764
>>15029734
This isn't refuting the claim that stats aren't different between the races. It just shows off how much time you've wasted on this game.
3c032b No.15029767
>>15029764
the stats arent different between races. No one ever said that
122f02 No.15029792
>>15029767
>the stats arent different between the races. No one ever said that.
You said that yourself you fucking idiot.
Make up your fucking mind.
3c032b No.15029807
>>15029792
there is difference in classes but no difference in races as in stats. Perhaps we having trouble in sentence comprehension?
122f02 No.15029814
>>15029807
>we
No, the problem is on your end you fucking huenigger.
d54b49 No.15029815
>>15029169
Why do devs struggle with an engi class? Also, gw2 is fucking garbage. Don't even bother. I had less problems with a full hero party in GW1 than I did with the fucking muppets in gw2 in high fractals, which was the only slightly enjoyable thing about the game until they decided it was too elitist and destroyed them.
3c032b No.15029817
b8cb05 No.15029824
>>15029792
>>15029792
>>15029814
Not that tard but you are in fact wrong. No stat differences is something I complained about, but not something that Anon claimed I was wrong about.
2483aa No.15029828
>>15029726
wrong, Chronomancer Mesmer is the best Tank right now.
b8cb05 No.15029845
>>15029828
>Latest DLC-specific class is OP
Huh, how unexpected.
2483aa No.15029868
>>15029845
Wrong this was from previous expansion, the gear used is also from previous expansion.
e04489 No.15029878
God no, stay as far away as you can. It's worse in every way that matters compared to the first Guild Wars.
t.paid 50$ at release and has all the expansions
1c7e40 No.15029884
f0d980 No.15029897
>game is 50% off
>suddenly a thread appears
What a complete and legitimate coincidence, (((OP))).
That said, for those who are unironically interested, the game is great for comfy exploring. Can't say too much about PvP other than it's been more active than before since you can actually get gold and other stuff from it. Rollerbeetle racing next week incoming.
2f11ac No.15029901
>>15029897
Nigger, you are way too paranoid. I was playing on Gummy's TBC server, but then he shut it down and now I am looking for something else to play.
b8cb05 No.15029903
>>15029897
>comfy exploring
This is ALL this game is good for, tho. The scenery is pretty good looking tho.
e04489 No.15029907
>release expansion pack for 60(?)$
>it's just a four hour singleplayer campaign and some new maps to play
>there's absolutely no point in playing the game after you beat the campaign because you've already had the best gear in the game for years
>"Oh but you can grind for legendaries!"
>have to spend weeks doing random shit to build a legendary weapon for a 2% increase in stats and an overdesigned piece of shit of a weapon
>legendary armor is the exact same thing but looks even worse than the weapons
>"B-but muh PVP!"
>pvp is a shitmess of niggers spamming AOE abilities and you getting your asshole obliterated by something you couldn't see through all of the effects and the framerate shitting itself
>"B-but muh raids!"
>every single fight in every single raid in the game is some gimmick fest with retarded mechanics
2483aa No.15029918
>>15029907
added mounts which all handle differently, different jump heights, speeds and abilities too. New traitlines for every class that changes how they play completely, new attribute combinations for gearing.
f0d980 No.15029923
>>15029901
Whatever the fuck that is, nobody cares.
>>15029903
I respectfully disagree that's the only positive, but the world design is certainly the strongest aspect.
>>15029907
>he doesn't play Fashion Wars
e04489 No.15029927
>>15029923
>fashion wars
But all of the legendary shit looks like ass. The armor is overdesigned edgelord garbage, the precursors look better than legendaries half of the time. But I wish I could be as grossly incandescent as you
f0d980 No.15029935
>>15029927
Nobody gives a damn about legendaries, it's all about mixing and matching. Those aren't my characters, but I'm proud of my nigger thief.
1c7e40 No.15029937
e04489 No.15029953
>>15029935
I play a Charr Engineer, there's basically two chestpieces and one shoulders that look good for it.
2483aa No.15029959
>>15029935
I thought nigger thief was bannable
f0d980 No.15029974
>>15029953
Charr are cursed beyond cultural armor. My engineer is a charr as well, but he looks okay.
>>15029959
Probably, but they can't do shit because we're in Elona now, that would be wacism.
b8cb05 No.15029977
>>15029959
It's only bannable if you act like a nigger or talk in ebonics.
e04489 No.15029988
>>15029977
>act like a nigger
>play a nigger thief
>hit f1
>banned
8c76ab No.15029992
>>15029935
I really like the heavy Vigil's Honor set.
f0d980 No.15030016
>>15029992
I like there's a lot of options. Every other log in or so I somehow unlock a new skin for something. You can be edgy as fuck as most of the expensive skins are, but I think most people tend to gloss over the common skins too much.
2483aa No.15030031
>>15030016
Are ther any nords in gw2 that don't look like trannies?
b8cb05 No.15030048
>>15030031
Only the male ones. Attractive female models is LITERALLY HITLER.
f0d980 No.15030063
>>15030031
Female nords you mean? The point is they're all burly and have disgustingly sweaty hairy armpits. It's not my thing either.
2483aa No.15030106
>>15030063
GW1 Nord waifu is not a tranny!!
65f70e No.15030109
Guild Wars 2 abilities were almost all created with PvP in mind. This is why almost every skill on your weapon bar and almost every support skill is some sort of single target CC, CC breaker, or movement skill. The game still *feels* wonderful to play, which is why it attracts and hooks in so many players. But once you take a deeper look you realize that it was built from the ground up to be an esport PvP game and that the PvP devs completely fucked the gameplay from the start and have been fucking the gameplay ever since (or at least once I quit). The SJW propaganda, the lack of challenging party content and the shit tier PvP could have been excused or ignored if the gameplay had been good, but the gameplay is a velvety smooth pile of shit, and once you realize you've been playing with a piece of turd all you want to do is wash your hands of the game and never look back.
f0d980 No.15030135
>>15030112
Of course you are, you're playing the best class, the only one with some difficulty in it eventually.
20aa49 No.15030195
Its shit!
Now let's see if the all the reasons why it is shit are mentioned.
8c76ab No.15030370
Haven't played in years but saw that they added a bunch of hairstyles.
They're all very.. (((diverse))) looking and then there's one extreme emo combat friendly haircut.
Did they get shit on for not having (((diverse))) enough hair options at some point?
Also I directly find 3 people RPing naked at character spawn.
8c76ab No.15030410
>>15030112
Get Lightning Hammer for maximum fun.
20aa49 No.15030444
>>15029183
>It's worked in some ways;
While rapring the build system, cut its throat and then taking a piss into the gargling neck. Not only is the healing skill mandatory, but so are the placement of your weapon skills and the elite skill and its placement. Speaking of the new system; Do you know why 90% of all players play DPS? Well first they have dumped down the system to buffs and conditions. So far so good. What they also did was making bosses immune to control conditions that interrupt shit, you know the former bread and butter of mesmers. This makes control worthless. Support outside of shields and walls doesn't work either, because some bosses are bullet hell or you simply can't heal enough to keep the up the your team. Besides that, the damage your condition are doing are bound to a stat. This makes people rely on their dodge ability and pumping in pure DPS like a motherfucker. This is also why 80% of the playerbase needs Zerker equipment. How else could a shit EoTN dungeon like Cathedral of Flames become so popular until Anet has limited the reward.
>>15029199
doesn't matter/Warrior or Elementalist if you want to take it easy. Mesmer for a challenge. Otherwise it doesn't matter.
>>15029430
This one of the worst aspects of PVE; Everything is outside of instances is a zerg. If you don't like that, drop that motherfucker.
>>15029438
Oh yeah, the currency creep. There are now whopping 46 currencies. Good on Anet that they have given up on dungeon specific tokens right after the first one.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Wallet
>>15029483
WEW! Enjoy quitting after 6 months, because you can only level up 2 Characters and then play Fractal of the Spergs.
>>15029651
> yes GW2 aparently have a fucking e sport scene
kekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekekek
Oh wait, they are still serious. Let me laugh harder! Just unspoiler the image. GW2 never had a serious a PvP scene. If it ever had one, wartower.de (the website they got the bald dude from my first post they have made German community manager from) would be the first to sperg about it. E-sports was a big selling point right after release just like GW1, you know? Unlike GW 1, there have never been a serious PvP scene to begin with. Foremost because the only game mode there is that can be played in a team setting is domination. The red haired stepchild of Unreal, Quake, GW1 and any other multiplayer game that had this mode. On top of that they have removed PvP gear that was supposed to make it more suitable for Korean TV along with the currency and introduced PvE gear just like in 1 and all official ranks were also removed.
>>15029656
The same bimbo has also warped Maple Story for good.
>>15029679
>FIRE!
>3,2,maybe 5
>EARTH!
>3, 5,4
>AIR!
>2,3,5
If you are wounded
>WUDDAH! DA WUDDAH, NIGGUH!
>5, 3, 6,
And what b8cb05 said.
The class is all about switching to the right atunement at the right time. Otherwise you it serves only the purpose of cranking out DPS. Scepter and Dagger are the best for doing exactly that. Staff is way too slow to do that reliably, because other players can't tank them inside your AoE spells any more and Air is effecively worthless on it.
>>15029753
Oh wow! Check out my Asura gangsta sitting in her pimp chair. Don't forget the joke reaction image I have made of some of the NPCs from the first shit living story events. Can I now talk shit about a game that has demonstrably disappointed me?
>>15029815
>destroyed them.
You mean resetted all the ranks, because all lvl 90+ autistic NEETs would get the new ascended gear way too fast? Yeah, my friend and his GF were pretty salty about that too.
>>15030370
Pretty much sums up Lion's Arch when I have quit. Since nobody played dungeons, WvW was all about getting yelled at by the commander on voicechat all night, Fractal of Autism to elitist, the only activity left outside of living story events was ERP.
5f6db8 No.15030472
It's a good game. But please do not buy it, if you really want to you can play it for free with minimum restrictions. I say you shouldn't buy it because the devs are progressively becoming more and more SJW. First they removed some female character animations because they wore "too feminine", then they replaced the main characters with a group of 4 females and one nigger, then they made 2 of those females lesbians and made sure that you never forget that, they even make you watch them kiss each other (it's not hot, it's super gay and forced), then they literally added a tranny NPC to the game for some fucking reason. Do not give these people money, I stopped supporting them after the second expansion.
d92c60 No.15030478
5f6db8 No.15030480
>>15030370
those are literally nigger hair styles, the second expansion is about niggers and the hair is just ripped from the new NPCs
f0d980 No.15030482
>>15030370
Only humans got culturally appropriated when PoF launched because Elona.
5f6db8 No.15030486
>>15030472
>I stopped supporting them after the second expansion
I meant to write first expansion
d92c60 No.15030489
is this game better than bdo and teso?
getting real tired of wow and need to deicde on a new mmo , most of my friends are on teso or bdo though but this one looks really intresting too , i cant decide
5f6db8 No.15030493
>>15030063
My first character was a female Norn, I deleted her (at lvl 80) because I could not stand that masculine dyke voice anymore
d92c60 No.15030496
>>15030063
why are the graphics so shit
5f6db8 No.15030503
>>15030496
even on my PC the screenshots ALWAYS look worse than the actual game for some reason
35477b No.15030508
>>15029087
The new expansion is decent, unfortunately it's tacked on to a game that's fundamentally broken and thus suffers from all of the same flaws. Unless you have friends to play with I'd say go play FF14 or something instead.
d92c60 No.15030516
b860a4 No.15030523
>pre release beta super fun with fullchan /vg/
>that complete lack of anything fun after release
What went wrong?
06f282 No.15030524
>OP makes a thread about a game he knows is unpopular, but wants the attention he'll draw from it
>these sort of threads are allowed to exist because being a blogposting attention whore is okay as long as they're playing a video game
This is a thinly veiled "unpopular opinions" thread and chock full of normalfag cancer. Holy shit.
f0d980 No.15030525
>>15030496
Potato computer. It looks really nice on highest but I can't run it like that.
>>15030489
If you like wow you won't like GW2. TESO is closer to wow from what I've seen but also has elements from GW2. If you need a wow clone play FFXIV.
d92c60 No.15030532
>>15030525
sick as fuck of wow and want nothing to with it or play anything similar
f0d980 No.15030547
>>15030532
There's nothing stopping you from trying it out then. There's no obligation to do anything beyond the opening tutorial so go nuts.
8c76ab No.15030557
>>15030516
I've played all 3 and I prefer Guild Wars 2 out of the bunch, though I've also not played the endgame very much in that one either.
I've gotten a character to 80 and done some casual stuff and then a bunch of mid lvl 50-70 while in BDO and TESO I reached maybe lvl 20-30 before I quit.
BDO feels much more like a skinnerbox than the other two, with more stuff locked behind the cash shop.
TESO is a bit scummy with their subscription where you don't get an unlimited bank for crafting materials unless you subscribe which seems to be almost essential with how much shit you need to hoard.
I don't really know enough about the games to give proper critique but all 3 play like "action" MMO's where it's mostly a hotbar MMO with some spin.
Gotta give it to BDO to have the flashiest animations and effects but in the end it doesn't mean much.
e04489 No.15030740
>>15030557
Yeah, as shit as GW2 is, it's nowhere near as bad as BDO. BDO has great combat animations and effects, but it's all worthless because as far as I got in that game, the combat was just you oneshotting a pack of enemies, or the enemies oneshotting you because you're underlevel. Additionally BDO jews you at every single step of the way, and you basically have to pay value pack subscriptions not to get gimped, and every single mechanic or system in BDO is intentionally obtuse in that special korean way.
f0d980 No.15030804
>>15030690
Ah yes, the human female meta. Always a staple.
b9a5da No.15030850
gw2 is backwards for most part it works just barely.
pvp is pretty dead its not fun conquest for almost 6 years is hell of boring.
wvw extremely boring but i guess people like it idk how aka lagfest or potatoe mode their games just to not fps drop to nothing.
pve is probably where the game shiens in the respect u can do anything and earn towards something.
dungeons groups are rare but at one point dungeons were fun and best source of gold.
most world bosses are just a daily kill to do for shits and giggles. metas actually require some teamwork.
fotm is where 5 mans go to get bored to death by grinding.
raids where people go to yell at 9 others to do shit right on easy boss fights.
most classes are viable now but some shit on them is completely useless. thief and few others lack a high dps spec compared to others who have been near the top forever now.
rangers warriors and mesmer turn into bitch specs for druid chrono support or tank and banner slaves.
and yes the game is still trying to be alive around dead pvp modes which can be facerolled to top 100
2483aa No.15030871
>>15030370
The emo haircut is a reference to a GW1 character.
>>15030489
BDO is a bad MMO, it plays like a singleplayer game till level 50+. Market prices are set by the server so there is always a shortage of items you want and always a surplus of lower level and useless items.
TESO also plays like a single player game till level cap, then you gotta grind champion levels and then dungeons.
GW2 has much more multiplayer interaction then most MMOs. However since you are used to WoW, you may not like the lack of carrot on stick, to keep you going on forever. If you're looking for something like WoW but better, then you can try FFXIV.
>>15030532
It's free to play now, just install and see if it is up to your liking. The classes also play radically diffrent so you might want to try em all out. There's limited character slots, but you can just make a new email and new accounts since its free. If you think you're kinda getting a hang of the mechanics, you can take a class into the PvP arena and it will upscale to level cap for you to try it out.
>>15030690
You picked the same face too many times, other than that, it is a nice harem.
0fd0cf No.15031018
>>15029087
It's mediocre at best. Even without comparing it to GW1 or talking about the gay tranny shit they put in the game, it's pretty mediocre. The combat is quick and feels much more free than other MMOs because you're allowed to move around while attacking, but that also adversely affects the gameplay because the AI just cannot keep up with players. This resulted in most enemies using ranged attacks or AoE spam. In fact, most bosses are purely AoE spam now.
The focus on larger player count instances rather than the 8 player instances from the first game means that enemies that aren't basic are just damage sponges, and of course this means it's hard to see anything because of the skill effects used by 50 other players.
The endgame is waiting for new story chapters to come out, which is just more of the same AoE spam dodge bosses.
PvP is a joke. You're supposed to read enemy player telegraphs to dodge their attacks, but the visual effect spam make that really difficult.
I suggest GW1 instead. Even if you play it solo it's much more enjoyable. Skills have meaningful design, instanced maps means it has more thought out map design with patrolling enemies, and hunting down and collecting skills is something you can do in game rather than just on the character screen. The endgame is pretty much non-existent like GW2, but it's also more of a complete game. GW2 hasn't had an ending since the end of the personal story, everything is just cliffhangers now.
20aa49 No.15031058
>>15031018
>most bosses are purely AoE spam now.
They always have been. The Boss of the second path of Caudecus Manor relies on the spamming the poison field Necros can cast with staffs all over the backyard.
There is endgame in the form of Elite Regions and their GW2 knock off Fractals of the Mists. This reminds me of another thing I forgot; Anet has scrapped Missions since GWEN. There is nothing that resembles them in 2. This is what Elite Regions are; Missions on steroids.
0fd0cf No.15031097
>>15031058
I guess I didn't notice before because a lot of GW2 isn't really memorable. I never bothered with fractals because it seemed pointless.
1d924e No.15031228
>>15030871
>You picked the same face too many times, other than that, it is a nice harem.
I'm just not very good at faces. It's irritating because they actually all have quite different faces on them, but I just can't seem to make them look different beyond a certain distance.
20aa49 No.15031260
>>15031097
Fractals are pointless. You don't get a title, and back then you didn't get special armors and skins. Not that these als matter, because Anet is selling most good skins over the cash shop.
e04489 No.15031407
>>15031097
>never bothered with fractals
There's no reason to. They're just repetitive dungeon runs with pasted on artificial difficulty and an arbitrary resistance gear requirement.
300c57 No.15031495
>>15029087
>Is it good?
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
t. bought it at release date
play first guild wars and its expansions, you can do all the story and shit alone with your qt companions, or maybe ask around here to play together.
1c7e40 No.15032774
7df52d No.15032937
>>15029087
Remember when GW2 was in development and dubbed "THE WoW Killer"?
2f11ac No.15033420
>>15032937
I don't remember, but I'm pretty sure every MMO says that before its released.
>>15030524
>WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THINGS I DONT LIKE!?!
>WAAAAAAHHH!
>>15030508
I dont have friends to play with as all of them are playing WoW on various private servers atm. I'm level 10 atm and yea, this would be a lot more fun with a partner.
>>15030472
>they literally added a tranny NPC to the game for some fucking reason
I thought Anon loved traps?
>>15030444
Elementalist is fun, but I usually like playing a melee character. Might try out warrior here soon.
>>15029977
>It's only bannable if you act like a nigger
Wait, so they ban people for acting like niggers? Seems like a selling point.
05db6f No.15033587
>>15029145
There are small groups of anons here who enjoy many awful things. They tend to be turbo autistic waifu-avataring weeaboos, furfags, traps and other forms of mental illness that are disgraceful even by image board standards.
I played GW2 for a while, and while it has some things going for it, the development is supremely Jewish and most of the game's modes of content go neglected for a year or two at a time, particularly the closest thing to sustainable endgame fun it has (World vs. World; large-scale organized guild PvP between three servers that are rematched weekly).
The leveling is boring, the world events are repetitious, the PvP mode is a complete joke, the raids are okay but very limited in content and take full priority of what very meager development resources the game is given by its kikelord publisher, the dungeons are an abandoned concept, the story content is pure poz and outquips Marvel movies, the sole viable mode (WvW) is the most poorly supported of all. It's not fucking worth it.
2f11ac No.15033823
>>15033587
My biggest complaint about MMOs that aren't WoW is the movement. Why does it always feel like you are walking through a giant sea of mashed potatoes?
05db6f No.15033853
>>15033823
Not sure how WoW's different from that norm, but mobility is one area where GW2 excelled. Lots of speed-boosting skills, movement skills to charge or leap forwards, targeted jump skills and universal dodge rolls. WvW would've lost what (squandered) potential it had if not for the fluidity of combat, how you can fight on the go and only the strongest shit requires you to stop moving and channel a skill.
The things that went right only make me sadder for the many more things that went wrong.
2f11ac No.15033896
Lots of ERP in the starting zones. Good shit.
2483aa No.15033953
>>15033823
Click to move> WSAD
For me most WoW clones feel like your character is sliding and not walking despite the animation.
becc59 No.15033966
Guild Wars 2 is the model theme park mmo.
>>15029473
So whats the point of this: "It's one of the better MMOs, and it's free to play, but don't expect anything but a pointless timesink."
Why are you posting in this thread at all? Let me guess, you aren't one of us.
40360b No.15034056
>>15032937
Yes. 3 months before release when peope have expected a different game.
>I thought Anon loved traps?
As a Hentai sujet. Not as a hamfisted part of the lore that you are suppose to take seriously.
>>15033966
You can thank Mr Metokur for that. He has namedropped /cow/.
5e7b92 No.15035285
>>15033896
dont you get banned for that kind of name?
how is the moderation/community in this gaeme?
84cb69 No.15035391
It's a mediocre game with shit tab combat trying to emulate action combat but lacking the depth that makes true action combat fun. It's too floaty so your actions have no consequence all the while you can cancel most every skill mid-animation. As a result the game's combat becomes spammy and there's a very low skill cap. Enemy attacks are also very poorly telegraphed so you can't position or dodge as well as a true action game. The game lacks the trinity but that also means it lacks party synergy outside of field skills which aren't very well done. Since there's no vertical progression there's literally no reason to keep playing unless you wan to play dress up.
PvP is shit and had an incompetent team behind it which allowed it to die off immediately after launch, not like it could have survived with it's combat system and game type.
>>15030871
GW2 has much more multiplayer interaction then most MMOs. However since you are used to WoW, you may not like the lack of carrot on stick, to keep you going on forever. If you're looking for something like WoW but better, then you can try FFXIV.
Yeah like zerging map events and field bosses for exp. Or zerging WvW. You can do everything alone, aside from field bosses, and not that much slower.
cd33f6 No.15036495
So Guild Wars 1 is on sale on Steam. What's notable about that is that this is the first time it has been discounted in 4 years. Wonder what the story behind that is.
3b8a9c No.15036665
>>15029992
>dyke sidecut hairdo
cmon man
22d977 No.15037493
Best MMO on the market, actual customization and player skill expression through the combo field system, PVP is a fucking blast and WVW is incredibly exciting, especially once you get confident enough to start roaming instead of just zerging. PVE is filled with whiny pissbabies, but every MMO is.
Most of the complaints are completely invalid shit like 'HOW DARE PEOPLE LIKE ME NOT EXIST, WHAT IS THIS SJW BULLSHIT????' Gay people exist, get over yourself my man, stop being an incel.
Ya'll are just bitter about people having fun.
84cb69 No.15037703
>>15036495
GW2 is prolly going through WoW cycles where there's no longer anything redeeming about the game to keep players interested and is instead relying on expansions and sales to keep players coming back.
Might be coinciding with a new expansion or ANET is trying whatever they can to pad their numbers after the unavoidable decline in active players. It's prolly why there are marketers here. It's already been a year since the last expansion I think.
I'm too lazy to dig up the reports but the one I skimmed on another forum a few months back showed that it was one NCSoft's of the least grossing games which shouldn't be surprising.
f16ff9 No.15037963
>>15029424
Dito.
But after getting shafted SO hard by the Ant-Jews of BDO, even their neo-marxist BS is starting to look good.
84cb69 No.15037974
>>15037963
Chinks and their cousins give the Jews a run for their money when it comes to Machiavellian practices.
78a94c No.15038012
>>15029183
Getting rid of a dedicated heal/prot backline was a terrible decision since Monk was one of the most fun professions in GW, or in any video game really. It's the main reason I refunded my copy of GW2 a few hours in.
2483aa No.15038843
>>15029087
GW1 is on the steam sale right now if you wanna know why GW2 is widely panned by GW1 players.
3c032b No.15038876
Game is shit beyond repair i dont really know what they thought when they implemented raids. This end game content is literally biggest pile of shit ever made not because you get reward only once per day which made me uninstal this game but because you literally need to have friends in real life to do raids im not even shitting you. No one will take you to raid in raid lobby if you join they will straight out kick you no question asked even if you have "meta build" they want.
Out of rage i wanted to refund this game but to no avail. If you are looking for endgame content such as legendaries you are SHIT out of luck. And you will want to have legendaries with constant patches and how much shit they change every damn week.
Oh and also rewards once per day. If you do dungeon and need certain armor set you need to farm for 2 weeks to get it. Becasue you get reward once perfucking day.
FUCK
YOU
NIGGGER
ARENA
NET
IF I WILL EVER FUCKING FIND THSI GUY WHO AGREED TO THIS HE IS GETTING FUCKING DABBED ON WITH MY DICK IN HIS RETARDED FUCKING SHITTER.
THIS NIGGER
THIS CIGARETE SMELLING SHITSKIN WILL
FUCKING
DIE
16ee72 No.15038896
>>15029087
IMO not worth it, might give you and some buds something to do if you want to go through something but other than that not really enjoyable, especially while playing alone.
And don't, even get me started on that piece of dogshit expansion they made called "Heart of Thrones", there was alot of intersting ideas introduced in HoT but it was ruined by retarded grinds that make Warframe look like a automated cornfield in comparison, no idea about it's second expansion though, heard from a friend it was alright compared to HoT.
My other main issue with it is it's lack of decent looking sets, there was about two-five heavy sets I liked, so in terms of armor customization not too great either, funny enough pic related was one of the only sets I stuck around with.
Also,
>>15029414
Yeah I was waiting for this picture.
9f141c No.15038899
I never played GW1 but I read tons of stories about how awesome the classes played since you could mix and match. The idea of the mesmer really appealed to me, I love debuffing aspects of classes. So when I picked up the Mesmer in GW2 you could imagine my disappointment to how much shit they changed from the original. This game taught me never to give in to hype ever again.
643129 No.15038910
>>15038899
I was a bit disappointed about GW1 cross-class system, because yes, it's true that you can make hybrid classes, but they are restricted.
I thought about doing a critical-hit archer (archer+assassin), just to learn that the "critical mastery" of the assassin is locked behind it needing to be your first class.
And if you do choose As as first class, then the Marksmanship masteries of the archer are locked.
A bit pissed off about that, but oh well.
f589f5 No.15039590
>>15037493
<pissbaby
You reek of tumblr. Get the fuck out of here never come back!
<Ya'll are just bitter about people having fun.
Sounds like projection. People playing shit MMOs don't have fun. Ask my friend who has played Fractals seriously if he still thinks that mode is good since that grill left him.
8cf579 No.15039600
>>15029087
Rurik died for this
Feels bad man
77b6f2 No.15039689
>>15038910
>And if you do choose As as first class, then the Marksmanship masteries of the archer are locked.
Expertise is the primary attribute of Rangers, not Marksmanship.
7df52d No.15041157
>>15029087
So what's the /v/ guild?
1be474 No.15041368
>>15035285
you just get a random name when they find out.
1be474 No.15041471
>>15030444
>There are now whopping 46 currencies
damn, i cant believe people are still playing this shit, i dropped after the first expansion
8e3400 No.15041482
my favorite part about GW2 is how hilariously bad the story is.
1be474 No.15041519
>>15038899
>I never played GW1 but I read tons of stories about how awesome the classes played since you could mix and match
>So when I picked up the Mesmer in GW2
play GW1, anon.
>>15041482
>implying
it was fucking amazing how you start your own story and then help a bixesual plant guy turn into a real hero all thanks to you!
c48e01 No.15041537
I'm going to be very much in the minority here, but I actually rather like the game. A lot of the criticisms are completely valid, but generally enjoy my time with it. It's extremely relaxing. If you are looking for a serious challenge, I suggest looking elsewhere, but it's nice to just sort of chill out and veg with, dick around with various builds and classes. Gear is easy to bit and most of the stuff you work to get are bragging rights and cosmetics, so you can get running fairly quickly.
So, in all, I recommend trying it at least. It's free. Not much to lose.
c48e01 No.15041545
>>15041537
>bit=get
But yea. You can get exotics for basically nothing on the auction house and those will carry you through most end game content.
1be474 No.15041559
>>15041537
>It's extremely relaxing
i have heard a lot of gw2, but never relaxing, gw1, now that is a relaxing game were you round around with your pet and let your companions do all the heavy lifting.
0b43ae No.15041588
Guild Wars has always been shit and the nostalgiafags saying otherwise need to get out.
770a85 No.15042881
GW2 is one of the few modern mmo's I'd say is worth playing. But, I also have some major gripes with the game and only really log in when a new story chapter is released. Vanilla game content is free so trying the game only some of your time.
>1. Endgame
GW2's endgame consists almost entirely of collecting cosmetics. But the overwhelming majority of new skins added are cash shop items. As such, the "endgame" for many people is to grind gold to convert into cash shop currency.
>2. Content
The devs don't really expand on a lot content if it isn't an immediate hit with the players. If content isn't well received in its first month or so, the devs typically abandon it. The dungeons from launch haven't been touched in years and some still have bugs so bad that they make finishing the run impossible. The WvW mode almost never receives updates. "Adventures" (little open world minigames) were all replaced with copy pasted speedrun fetch quests for the 2nd expansion. Also, the devs are very slow with releasing new content despite much of the content updates having very little to do.
>3. The players
GW2's playerbase is some odd amalgamation of hardcore mmo players who only speedrun content and casual players who barely understand the game mechanics (in their defense, gw2 does not do a good job of teaching the player certain mechanics). The main problem I find is that both groups expect the other to accommodate their playstyle and get kind of pissy when they dont. Yes, I know that I could avoid this problem entirely by getting a static guild group, but both of my guilds died shortly after the 2nd expansion came out and I was too lazy to find a new one I'd often run into casual players ranting about "elitist attitudes" when told that they weren't carrying their weight in group content. I've also seen a fair share of hardcore puggers get mad at groups who don't skip every skippable fight (some would also leave after a single wipe) and/or at people who run any build outside of the current "meta" that is dictated and controlled by like 2 or 3 guilds.
>>15030109
>Guild Wars 2 abilities were almost all created with PvP in mind
It blows my mind that they thought gw2 pvp could be a viable esport despite it being the least played mode in the game.
>>15030489
BDO is incredibly jewish; you are at a sizeable disadvantage if you don't pay into it's cash shop. You will need to be logged in to the game at much as possible to maximize your worker production (they stop working when you log off). You can make cute waifus though.
I just got ESO during its last sale, but so far it feels like a single player game where you can see other players. Maybe it gets different at end game but I'm not there yet. The game is kinda ugly though, making a cute gril is near impossible.
000000 No.15049247
I was there at launch.
>game started out ok
>was comfy
>story was alright
>gear looked reasonable
Then, about halfway through the game, I noticed that things took a turn for the worse. The story got more and more insufferable with each level and the gear looked worse the better it got. The WvW mode was fundamentally flawed because of aoe limitations, resulting in giant blobs of people. There were many issues. I thought that they could fix it, but the opposite happened. Everything the writers produced after launch was utter fucking trash. The people looked like walking christmas trees with all the disgusting new gear. Afaik, WvW is still empty except for a couple of zerg blobs where people literally hug each other as they roam from one objective to another on the huge map. It was like someone was developing a decent game, but after getting done with all the fundamentals and the first 20 levels they suffered a stroke, after which the publisher decided to give the project to some talentless hack to finish and maintain.
Jumping puzzles are fun though. If the game was nothing but JPs, it would be a 10/10.
ad4afe No.15049415
>>15029087
>Guild Wars 2
>Is it good?
It's a game that shits all over the original it's supposed to be based off of in virtually every conceivable way. It's a WoW clone with a thin veneer of action combat and "living world" events that amount to nothing. The writing staff is completely infested with SJWs writing in their own self inserts and mary sues making the story agonizing to suffer through while you mindlessly grind through content and not-so cleverly disguised fetch quests. A game that on release and still several months in the dungeons were so bad that the meta wasn't a team composition or tactic to complete them, but instead revolved around finding glitches and exploits and ways to get the mesmer out of bounds so the party could skip as much content as possible. Where the Devs promised they wouldn't add a gear treadmill; it was even in their publicly available manifesto and within a couple of months after release they add a new tier of gear to the treadmill.
I have written pages analyzing everything that GW2 managed to fuck up whenever it is mentioned. Some of it even managed to make it into other anon's screencaps. I'm not going to bother going into depth again, just fucking leave.
>>15029206
That's a pretty decent way to describe it but I would go further and say it's more like comparing CalArt's Thundercats to the original.
becc59 No.15049427
>>15049415
> dungeons
I remember those shitshows. Go in, get memed on by aoe and cc, die, resurrect to do it all over again until you brute forced your way through.
Also, I'd like for you to continue at least a little bit.
8cdcf0 No.15049446
0a5aba No.15056459
>>15049427
Don't forget:
>Do dungeon for the first time
>Everyone else already knows everything, skips most content with geometry exploits
>Get shat on for not knowing how to do those exploits and not knowing the bosses
8249f2 No.15056462
I pre-ordered it. Fuck no it isn't good, avoid it like a plague.
0a5aba No.15056470
>>15041519
Don't forget the ebin boss fight at the very end against a dragon that was bugged and did nothing. Did they ever fix that?
de06ae No.15056730
GW2 exploration is pretty fun. The areas are well made and they didn't skimp on details, even rewarding you sometimes with treasure chests filled with absolute worthless crap. Does that make it worth a playthough? Maybe, who cares, the base game is free now. Just don't buy the expansions.
The game is just a massive pile of good ideas turned to shit in order to either appease the casuals or make the game more e-sports. It could be the top MMO on the market if anet focused on polishing the pve, adding more skills and creating new dungeons and world events with good rewards but they instead decided to focus on single player story and never added skills cause that would upset the pvp "balance".
But it's pretty. I guess casualization can't fuck that.
000000 No.15056987
>>15029087
If you said "Guild Wars" the answer would've been yes. But Guild Wars 2 ruined everything that was good about Guild Wars 1 and then the moderation staff declared war on all the complainers asking why they turned it into wowshit and ruined the gameplay from the first game.
e5a88f No.15057004
e5a88f No.15057007
>>15056868
>can transition with little effort using magic
>no risks involved
>"brave"
I don't get it… who wrote this garbage?