/v/ - Video Games

Transact your neck into a rope, faggot. We have enough Bethshit threads.

>purchase cosmetics with real money

>or earn them by playing the game

all I feel is indifference, anon

>>14990758

I fucking hate those people

>>14990754

1, preferably with the community patch to fix some bugs and make it more compatible. If you really like that, then play 2, but personally I think 1 is better because it is a more complete and concise game. Tactics is an okay hybrid of this franchise and XCOM, a bit more linear but interesting nonetheless.

>Online game by Bethesda

>Not expecting microtransactions and any of the usual online kikery

>>14990773

2 is better than 1 in every way, except if you think that certain enemies and encounters subtract from the game's realism or something, which I can understand. Fallout 2 was definitely sillier than 1.

>>14990785

Unless I am forgetting something, isn't this the first online bethesda game?

>>14990758

Last time i searched for people on that pic, and nobody had nuF4 nor were on any 8ch group.

>>14990790

You are forgetting The Elder Scrolls online.

>>14990758

A public 8chan group was a mistake from the start. - this opens it to the lowest common denominators, people who probably don't even visit this board very much if at all, but want to flaunt the "culture" of the board. Steam groups are shit in the first place but if it was my say, I would have a private group and only those attending the game nights can get invites.

>>14990790

2 is better for quality of life improvements and the location designs were still great, but the key thing that makes Fallout in my opinion is narrative agency and consequences. Fallout 1 was a really well-tied together game, there were no loose ends and everything makes sense. Also I really think the intro section of FO2 was a step down, nobody asked for a shitty tutorial and nobody wants to be a dirt poor tribal without even a gun outside of challenge runs

>>14990793

You do know the group got disbanded 2 years ago and you can easily change your name and avatar on steam right? I saw these faggots with my own eyes when fallout 4 first launched

>>14990796

This is probably true, but still having faggots here that actually bought the game and not even pirate it is a terrifying thought to be had

>>14990809

I wonder how many of the 35k people that follows the offical 8chan twitter actually browses

As a usual detractor from Bethesda I really don't see an issue there. In fact, what you quoted sounds right neighborly of them.

Only retards will play the game anyway, I'm not sure who is dumb enough to be outraged at Bethesda acting like the jews they are

>>14990896

Source?

>>14990758

What's wrong with Vermintide besides shitty devs?

>>14990754

1, 2, NV in that order. If tactics interests you, play wasteland 2 instead.

>>14990913

Or Fallout Tactics.

>>14990906

We will be getting endless threads about it. Mark my words.

>>14990927

Delet this.

>>14990943

I whole heartedly believe you. We had that whole day where we do nothing g hit dump porn in FO4 threads yet we still have people make them to this day.

Is there a chance there will a crack that allows mods?

Or because FO4 is so mod unfriendly there is no hope for future beth games?

>>14990903

Its there to make you reply.

>>14990967

I think this "crack" will be banned from everywhere. Nexus are huge rulecucks, and loverslab is too. But there "might" be someone from russian websties who would do such a thing, since they were all on mod piracy and shit.

Pete Hines will just say its "hacking" and not modding and that will be it.

>>14990952

I felt it necessary since a lot of us will probably end up playing the new game when it releases - pirated or otherwise. It does affect us and it serves as a precedent for them to lock more stuff behind a paywall.

>>14990943

It's OK though, we'll make the threads "ironically" only to shit on the game, its not lile the board was flooded with bethsedashit threads popping up like moles during the fallout 76 teaser and bethseda e3 conference. We're doing it ironically and not actually playing the game ;)

>>14990992

The saddest thing is that fallout as a franchize is so big, the amount of whales will be enormous. I know a lot of people who buy ALL the cosmetics just to look like glorious faggots.

>>14990981

For what reason why I ever play a survival turd with Fallout paint coat? Especially when there's so many quality Fallout mods out there?

>>14990981

>a lot of us will probably end up playing the new game when it releases

speak for yourself, I'm not even gonna bother wasting the bandwidth to download it. but yeah there are some fucking faggots here who will play or even buy the damn thing

>>14990744

>division clone with base building has microtransactions

Stop the fucking presses!

>>14991011

>fallout 3 is good, people just hate on it because they are dumb

You're not serious. Have a (you).

Now saying fallout 4 is good would be serious, but it requires complex answer that its because of the unique features that game has, such as building settlements and having cool gunplay in open world. And better faces than in other beth games.

I dunno, I think I'll play it with a few friends. Never really been any good co op mods or modes. It's too bad we can't just play splitscreen with one copy, but whatever.

>>14991021

>>14991019

>>14991014

>>14991013

>>14991001

I'm not saying we're gonna like it, but I assumed that most of us here at least play a game before critiquing it. I do, at least.

>>14990981

LOL you are asking for this thread to be shitposted into oblivion.

>>14991029

But I already know it's shit.

>>14991011

Fallout 3 fucking blows, the entire wasteland seems disjointed and lifeless, the story is terrible, gameplay sucks major balls, etc. The only semi decent thing is the exploration

>>14991022

>>14991031

It may not be as overall good as NV, but in some ways it's better, and a lot of ways worse. NV was fucking unfinished anyway.

>inb4 it's Bethesdas fault Obsidian did a half ass job

>>14991021

>Rust with no risk of losing anything

I am surprised nobody mentioned that most bethesda players play with TGM.

That's unspoken but true fact. Why they even made it so health is being lost? Why not enable tgm constantly? Why not make TCL constant for base building too? Why not turn it into giant gmod clone but on bethesda engine?

>>14991041

Are you trying to be smart? Or ironic?

>>14991042

>but in some ways it's better

What made you think it's a good idea to hang around here cuckchanner?

>>14991055

Yes i do. Youtube. Check out any modded playthrough and as soon as streamer starts dropping health he turns on tgm. Even skyrim speedrunner turned on tgm before facing alduin.

>>14991069

>muh place

This place never changed. Look up >>14990758

Its just some of us became faggots willingly.

>>14991069

>Implying one faggot OP speaks for everyone

>>14991081

Hey! I endorse his thought. Except for a phrase "fallout 4 was retarded".

>>14991076

Not my fault you have shit opinions everyone disagrees with.

>>14991078

>The main reason people don't like F3 is because it shits on the lore.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the abysmal writing, voice acting, quest design, world design, combat, bugs, general lack of polish, etc.

Nope, we're just upset about the lore. Go away you sad cuck.

>>14990987

I know rite fellow v-irile gaymer xD Nothing wrong with making fun of Fallout after playing it for a while, after all we're just doing it ironically.

>>14991044

Because the whole point of the game is to cash grab on the trend of gaming as a way to socialize and steal the open world survival pvp audience from non AAA games like rust. Those guys would enjoy ganging up and killing people, even if their victims lost nothing and they gained little.

>>14991057

You don't need to try shit to know it tastes like shit

>>14991089

>tells me to go away

>misuses cuck

I think not, election year newcomer.

>abysmal writing

It wasn't as good as NV, but it wasn't bad. Aside from that bullshit where you couldn't send the supermutant into the radiation chamber.

>voice acting

Passable. Same as in NV.

>quests

Some good ones, but not as many good ones as NV.

>world design

Better than NV, honestly.

>combat

Same as NV, except NV implemented some popular mods for 3. It's okay when Obsidian does that though, right?

>bugs

Same as NV.

>lack of polish

Same as NV.

>>14991113

Give an example then. I bet you can't find a single objective issue besides the one I already mentioned with Fawkes.

>>14991112

>So you're alright with the process of critiquing a game even though you never played it?

I agree. Only people who bought the game should be allowed to criticize it, fellow gamer person.

>>14991092

Haha yeah! I just bought a dozen comsetics armor to rile up /V/irgins (that I also thought looked cool) so that i can get those valuable (you)s! I'm extremely ironic and didnt really spent those 400 hours actually playing the game in all seriousness!

>>14991125

>played =/= bought

>>14991112

>you have to play this online Bethesda game before you know it will be the same shit quality as other bethesda games/online games

Yeah no faggot.

>>14991141

Show us your boypussy.

>>14991141

And this is what we call "being part of the problem"

>>14991142

>desperate after 4

Wut? That was their most profitable Fallout by far. Didn't make as much as Skyrim, but then again they didn't release it at full price 12 times.

>>14991124

>Brotherhood of Steel are now noble paladins of the Wasteland instead of a xenophobic tech cult that sends any annoying applicants to die of radiation poisoning

>you can stop the main villain by telling him he's evil

>the plot makes no sense because there was never a shortage of water in the Fallout universe

I'm too lazy to drag up any more memories of FO3's shit writing.

>>14991112

>online survival

>base building

>microtransactions

>just launch nukes everywhere lmao

>softcore

>survival

>bethesda

the writing's on the fucking wall

>>14991135

that ice cream looks like shit anyways

>>14991161

uhh whoops that was supposed to be

>online softcore survival

and not broken into three lines

>>14990744

I hope it has microaggressions too.

>>14991163

Just–

Just put it in your mouth!

>>14991163

But how do you know it's shit?

>>14991180

Radiohead is pretty good m8

>>14991160

>Brotherhood of Steel are now noble paladins of the Wasteland instead of a xenophobic tech cult that sends any annoying applicants to die of radiation poisoning

Not an objective flaw, just a justifiable lore inconsistency that's explained in game.

>you can stop the main villain by telling him he's evil

You can do pretty much the same in NV. Also why are you complaining about having a non combat option in a role playing game?

>the plot makes no sense because there was never a shortage of water in the Fallout universe

Another lore inconsistency, but not a flaw in the writing or the game. Like I said, the issues with F3 boil down to it shitting on the lore from 1 and 2 (even though 2 shit on 1's lore), not from it being a bad game. It's nothing but nostalgia goggles and hipster bullshit thinking 3 is garbage. Maybe you like NV more because you wish you were a cowboy, but that doesn't mean 3 is shit.

>>14991180

Some people have a taste for a kill. Stop your shaming.

>>14991141

Hello, fellow cancer.

I bough it a year ago, when I was 17

At least I got it used, so no shekels for Toddyboy

>>14991193

The theme park design was inferior and there is a PDF that addresses this perfectly.

>>14991195

You still bought you nigger. Lurk for at least 2 years before coming here with such shit taste.

>>14991135

And n, what a horrible shader, why does it look like carpet? Curious mouth feel.

>>14991217

>mouth feel

you mean texture?

>>14991191

It is.

Ok Cumputer best album.

>>14991209

>theme park design

You mean an open world? I guess some people prefer more linear games (and for some games/genres that definitely works better) but RPGs and open worlds go well together.

The truth of the matter is that 3 and NV are of similar quality in almost every area, the biggest difference being that NV had superior writing.

>>14991226

mouth feel is a term i hate, it makes me so mad the inside of my mouth tastes like a battery

>>14990819

>Also I really think the intro section of FO2 was a step down, nobody asked for a shitty tutorial and nobody wants to be a dirt poor tribal without even a gun outside of challenge runs

Tutorial aka temple trials were iirc the suits in charge at the time demanding to have a tutorial level.

>>14991234

I don't remember that song in Fallout 2. I thought it was only that one Armstrong song in the intro?

>>14990744

Then why have dedicated servers in the first place?

>>14991231

No that is not what I mean by theme park design you disingenuous twat.

>>14991252

I think I remember the PDF you're talking about, but I don't remember the details of it. Anyway I can hardly be disingenuous when you don't even explain what you meant in the first place.

>>14991251

He already nailed it 2 years later, with Fallout 3 and the Broken Steel addon.

>>14991231

Open world != theme park

You can have an open world that is relatively unified and cohesive. A theme park world is one where you have a bunch of setpieces that got tossed into one map without actually having any ties to one another.

Shit like the two cannibal families, the AntAgonizer+Mechanist, and the Republic of Dave are theme park design. You visit one, ride it, and move on to the next with none of them mattering to any others.

>>14991251

When do you think this guy killed himself?

>>14991231

>theme park design

<You mean open world?

We got a live one here, boys

>>14991271

>>14991267

So a disjointed open world. That makes more sense to say than theme park. Anyway, complaining about outlandish shit existing nearby or simultaneously isn't a Fallout 3 exclusive complaint, because it's like that in every single Fallout game.

>>14990749

That's why you get your friends together, gather a nuke code, and punish the whales.

Will they have a voicepack where you can call people degenerates in Todd's voice?

Not surprising based on how they describe 76. They would have done loot boxes if Ea didn't screw the pooch.

>>14991293

>Implying the game won't protect whales in some shitpull fashion

>>14990744

is this shit multiplayer only, or will there be single player too?

>>14991301

Todd said there's single player too, but probably the game will be mostly designed around the multiplayer so no telling if it'd still be as fun or not.

>>14990805

That's all zenimax dude.

>>14991325

8/vv/ steam group is likely made out of people who do not post on 8/v/

>>14991324

Who own Bethesda. At the very least the practices in that game are encouraged by the suits to be included in this one to maximize profits.

>>14991332

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>14991325

Mark will be roped into buying it by his "friends" and defend every FO shill thread as well.

I am a little interested in it. I like the idea of it anyway. Kind of like Multiplayer STALKER but I don't know if I am going to buy it. Maybe on a sale to check it out.

>>14990744

Just wait for mod support, and then pirate it to avoid most of the microtransaction cancer. Or just stop playing garbage and avoid all of the cancer.

>>14991359

There won't be mod support, anon. With multiplayer and forced online, you won't be able to mod it. They're literally making a Rust clone, without admitting as much, and with all server control locked away.

>>14991096

Isn't there going to be a free beta for this game?

>>14991332

>underaged fags saying they bought the game

>faggots RPing

>that one retard that defends fallout 3 everytime he shows up

>people actually saying to play this easily seen turd before critizing it after the shitshow fallout 4 was

>all of this shit in this very thread

This thread only solidifies the 8chan steam group picture, there's a bunch of faggots here that needs a purging. If you're this fucking deluded after all the evidence being thrown at your face, you're beyond hopeless.

>>14991359

Mods couldn't even save fallout 4, there's almost no chance of it saving this microtransactions pozzed fuckfest

>>14991110

>world design

>better than New Vegas

ok buddy there's a point where you took the joke too far and people just end up feeling sorry for you playing the fool.

>>14991377

I assume this is what the paid mods and the marketplace from FO4 and Skyrim have been leading to. They'll be "mod support" à la TF2 accessories, where people make things for the game and glorious Bethesda grants them the privilege of adding their creation to the micro transaction pool for a massive cut of the profits.

>>14991404

if it's any consolation i've made this a designated shitposting thread for myself

>>14991404

This is pretty well factual, anything outside board lyfe should not be afilliated. Must be youngfags unaware of Chanology and stupid Mark becoming a face and early meetups. Anyone making an example must become an example.

>Fallout 76 will have microtransactions

Well I never. I am shocked! shocked I tell you!

>>14991434

Yeah, sunstroke might explain it. Get yourself a hat and a water bottle.

>>14991405

Are you retarded? Do you have brain damage, anon? I said kind of like STALKER. As in not exactly like STALKER. As in kind of but not exactly the same.

>>14991448

Stop being a dork attempting to associate the two whatsoever. Flatout is creatively bankrupt in comparison, all it has is window dressing at this point.

>>14990758

All these people need to leave 8chan immediately and never come back. It's wrose enough they're playing Shitout4, but they actually paid money for it

>>14991412

3 was more fun for random wandering than NV. The theme park accusation can largely be avoided with this playstyle, as I avoided getting bogged down indoors.

>>14991448

>A cover based atmospheric single-player shooter

>being anything like an open world multiplayer survival rust clone

Which one of us is supposed to be retarded here

>>14991110

>writing is the same as NV

>world building BETTER than NV

Man, I'm with you that fallout 3 isn't the biggest piece of dog shit on earth, but these points are unforgivable.

>>14991505

The only thing that NV's map had on 3 was a sense of direction in the beginning, and that dies as soon as you reach Vegas.

>>14990758

>in a non-steam game: fallout 4

Piratefag did nothing wrong.

>>14991309

He didn't say that you can play single player, just that you can play solo. You don't have to team up with people, but you're still always in a server with other players.

>Fallout 76

>Fallout stripped off story and anything Bethesda can fuck up.

>Just building settlements and clearing randomly generated dungeons

>Sound like perfect mod platform

<Most likely it won't get any mod support.

Bethesda just managed to get me hyped a bit just to kill it not even a week later. I am amazed.

>>14990744

> "any purchaseable cosmetics available will also be available to earn through gameplay."

Meaning play 1000 hours to get even one helmet.

>>14990961

I really, really like this image.

>>14991377

I was watching the documentary stream with Todd for Fallout 76. He said it would have mod support post launch. I'm assuming that means custom mods, though it could just be more Creation Club cancer.

>>14991404

You are probably right.

>>14990755

There shouldn't even be the option for micro transactions Todd

>>14991647

Todd's on our side, anon. He fights for what's good in this world, but unfortunately he doesn't have full control, the publishers do.

>>14991234

Does anybody have the original without the gay add-on at the end?

>>14991661

I don't see anything gay here except your post. Do something about that, will ya?

This could have actually been a fun game if Bethesda let you host your own servers and install mods, but nope. Gotta get those shekels.

>>14991617

>I was watching the documentary stream with Todd for Fallout 76. He said it would have mod support post launch.

Yes, Todd Howard is well-known for being a trustworthy individual.

>>14991617

Mod to Bethesda means creation club.

>>14991731

If you knew the facts, you wouldn't say things like that. Things are true when Todd says them, but get changed by other people, like marketers and executives, after he says them. What is he supposed to do about that? Call Donald Trump?

If I buy Todd's game, will he stop posting?

>>14990836

>35k people that follows the offical 8chan twitter

No fucking way. This place get's less than 3k posters a day, let alone 35k They all have to be either bots, old accounts or attention whores. Besides, unless you need to, you should never use twitter.

>there are faggots defending fallout 3 on /v/

This will eventually culminate in another exodus or the death of image boards depending on how things go.

>>14991076

>Facebook meme

This is bait.

>"any purchaseable cosmetics available will also be available to earn through gameplay.

so 5 real dollars or 50 hours of grinding funbux in game for a hat

>>14991497

Fallout is an open world game with shooting radiation poisoning and urban exploration. STALKER also has these elements. Fallout 76 will have similar elements plus Multiplayer. That is really all I am interested in. I have no interest in buying the game but the idea of playing a irradiated wasteland game where I can purge degenerate scum has me a little interested to see how it plays out. We all know it's going to be a tremendous fuckfest when it launches so that will be amusing to see. I'll probably eventually pick it up and enjoy it primarily for those aspects I mentioned above. I like exploring big maps with cheeki breeki guns. If this gave can deliver with random happenings with other players I'll pick it up for 10 dollars.

>>14990865

>as a ____

back to reddit you cringey cuck

>>14991078

>The main reason people don't like F3 is because it shits on the lore.

FO3 was my first fallout game and I knew nothing about the lore going into it and it's flaws go beyond that. If it was just a post-apoc game without the fallout title the flaws wouldn't change. I wish bethesda would realize what they're good at, the "explore > get stuff > explore" formula and expand on it because that could make for more interesting games.

>>14994115

>If this gave can deliver with random happenings with other players I'll pick it up for 10 dollars.

scrapping the NPCs is gonna hurt that aspect once goofball metas get figured out and people just run raids for nuke codes forever

>>14994130

The capitalization on those elements is exactly why I am even remotely interested in this game. The story seems threadbare as fuck and the game seems to be focused entirely on gameplay. This was probably the smartest move Bethesda has ever made for Fallout considering their track record. Just make a game with a big map and tons of monsters to fight and stuff to craft and let the player figure the rest out and tell their own little stories. It's going to launch and shit the bed but I will eventually puck it up used or on GOG for 10 dollars.

>>14990744

>Fallout 76 will have microtransactions

OMG I'M SO SURPRISED

No fucking shit it will. Did you honestly expect it to not?

>>14994147

> and let the player figure the rest out and tell their own little stories

the issue is from what i understand they completely scrapped NPCs so the stories might end up being "fuckfaces ganked me" and nothing else

>>14994144

Yea I can definitely see Bethesda nerfing nukes or taking them out of servers entirely in the future. But honestly the idea of making outer heaven and removing Philosophers makes me a little hard. I mean in the hands of a competent developer you could have sneaking missions where you have to break into an opposing base to steal launch codes before they can assemble their nuke and destroy your settlement, and if you think that isn't the tightest shit you can just get the fuck out of my face. Unfortunately that won't be the case.

>>14994147

>their own little stories

>story one

>walk out of the vault

>get killed by another player

>story two

>walk out of the vault

>get killed by another player

>story three

>walk out of the vault

>don't get instantly killed the moment you're outside

>team up with a few people to build a base

>spend hours grinding for resources to build a better base

>get nuked by another player

Sounds fun

>2018 the year of our ford

>not expecting microtransactions

silly goyim did you actually think you 'bought' the game?

>>14994170

I played Conan Exiles for about a Month or so and it wasn't that bad. People would rarely outright kill me on sight. Especially if you had a friend. Most would try and talk to you. There was definitely a gangs of hardcore rapists would would roam around killing everyone on sight but I eventually got bored because gathering resources in order to build an ever deteriorating base isn't much fun long term. The idea of letting you take your base around with you in a capsule corp style carrying case is an interesting one though. It would be pretty fucking funny if you could sneak into someone's settlement and steal their entire base from under their nose.

>>14991309

>Todd said there's single player too

odds are it will be like diablo 3

>>14994227

What's the point of single player if there are no NPCs though? I fully understand the appeal of just exploring the map but who are going to sell stuff you find to or what about just finding strange little settlements or oddball NPCs to interact with or get quests from. If the idea is to get players to create these things it'll probably quickly dissolve into "yeah the roleplaying savages hang out here and the blowhards hang out here"

>>14994175

do you have THE OTHER version?

>>14991245

That's because it wasn't and some clueless memer who thinks nothing other than "it's cool to like the older ones because reasons xD" had the bright idea to try to get many an upvote while also outing themselves as a clueless fag who most likely never played the game.

>>14994298

This is all I want. I want to reduce their world to ash. I want to be Big Boss. Is there a good character sheet for Big Boss in New Vegas? That sounds fun right now.

>>14990744

>Fallout 76 will have microtransactions, but

>"these will only come in the form of cosmetics"

What's the problem again?

>>14991251

>it's just cosmetics

Slippery Slope already happened, before all microtransactions were bad, now they got them to condition themselves that paying for cosmetics, that used to be unlocked by just playing the game, are now okay. The slippery slope is not "gonna happen" we're already in the process of it happening.

>>14994337

>believing his lies

Fucking moron.

>>14994326

>Is there a good character sheet for Big Boss in New Vegas?

high charisma and strength, high survival, sneak and traditional weapon skills. That would be off the top of my head.

>>14994298

Yeah yeah, blah blah. There are fucking haven and hearth since forever where you could genocide whole vllages of russian players. There are CDDA. There are fucking fallout online. But some assholes dream about games which already exist and will be happy to pay bethesda for horse armor.

>>14991193

There's still a chance this is bait, but I'll bite anyway:

>Not an objective flaw, just a justifiable lore inconsistency that's explained in game.

>It's not a flaw in the writing! just a flaw in the writing!

>You can do pretty much the same in NV. Also why are you complaining about having a non combat option in a role playing game?

No, in New Vegas you can convince the enemy commander hes lost and to retreat and fight another day when you've fought through dozens of his men with an army at your back slaughtering the remainder of his forces in front of his very eyes or have him surrounded by your own army of securitrons and cut off from his own forces, not say "you're evil and must be stopped!" and instantly change the mind of the primary villain. You also require sound arguments in order to convince these commanders there's nothing for them to gain by fighting you spread out over several pieces of dialogue, and there are several ways to go about convincing them from different angles. The problem isn't that there's a way to talk yourself out of a situation without using combat, the problem is the writing in doing so, which is just "lmao ur evil lol!"

>Another lore inconsistency, but not a flaw in the writing or the game.

>b-but it's just a lore inconsistency! calling it something different means it's not the writing's fault!

Here's a tip, shitting on already established facts is bad writing one way or the other, it doesn't matter if FO2 did it too.

As for the "theme park" thing: When people say FO3 had a "theme park" world, what they're referring to is in part how disjointed the open world is, but what they're primarily focusing on isn't the transition from one area to the next, they're concerned with how the areas interact as a simulation of a world rather than as simply a game and their logical reasons for existing. Towns, regions, etc. in FO3 don't interact very much if at all, each one is simply set up as some sort of set piece with no real reasoning behind it or logic to it.

>"Hey lets build a town around a nuke!"

>but why would a bunch of people live around an active nuclear warhead leaking radiation everywhere?

>"Because it would be cool!"

Things like this are actual justifications for entire areas in the world of FO3, whereas in NV:

>"Hey lets build a town inside a canyon surrounded by snow in the high mountains!"

>why?

>"Because the people living there want to be secluded and out of the way as they are super mutants who are often hated by humans"

or

>"Hey lets build a town with a giant dinosaur statue in it!"

>But why?

>"Well the statue was actually a pre-war tourist attraction that just happens to be there, the town grew because of, and subsists on, selling junk from the nearby rocket building facility. The interior of the dinosaur also acts as a trading post and a sniper lookout to protect the town"

In addition to this, NV has most of these town interact in some way, or have interconnections, these are facilitated partially by the idea of factions. Ones as big as the NCR and the Legion which carry over to the whole game, or as small as Goodsprings which really only relates to the town proper, thus leading to more complicated relationships with the locals and rewards from quests depending on how you decide to interact with them. Completing quests or helping the NCR changes their distribution of troops, allows you to swing a few favors here and there from them for helping them out, and gets you recognized as you wander from location to location.

Another rant I could go on would be the obvious "What do they eat? Why are there no farms or livestock in the entirety of the Capital Wastes?", but I feel like we've all heard that one before. The reality is Bethesda created things in FO3 with the justification of making a bunch of amusement park rides in a world that revolves around the player entirely and not caring if it made sense or was logical, while NV was crafted with the purpose of being an immersive world that existed with the player being able to influence it.

>>14994350

Those are the obvious ones. What perks do you think would be a good fit for Big Boss? Companions? Traits?

>>14994426

The reason the nuke was still in the middle of the town is that there was a cult of nuke worshippers there. They helped build the town, or rather they helped put the walls around it.

Maybe you should pick another one of a hundred examples instead of lying. Unless you're baiting, in which case, carry on.

>>14994475

That in and of itself is retarded writing. The Fallout world is ultra paranoid about nukes. Those people would have been killed on sight and the settlement would never have been left there in the old setting.

>>14994475

That explains why a cult of nuke worshipers would be there, not all the other people who have no interest in it and have very little to gain from living around it, in fact there are only 4 cultist in the town with the total population being almost ten times their number. While the cultists helped build the town in exchange for not moving the nuke, it still doesn't explain why they wanted to build the town there in the first place and not on the abandoned airfield they supposedly scavenged all the metal and parts from or LITERALLY ANYWHERE ELSE THAT ISN'T ON TOP OF A FUCKING BOMB.

>>14991193

Please give me ONE example of anyone in fnv backing down because "It's evil". Sure, not all of NV's speech checks were strong, but none of them were as bad as fallout 3's "you're an abomination to science"

Not sure if anyone mentioned or talked about it but I remember like 6 months back the skyrim multiplayer mod got a C&D from Bethesda and was cancelled. Was Fallout 76 the reason they did that?

>>14994492

Which people? The nuke cultists are pretty savage.

>>14994506

There is a spring there. A water source. The town is built from a plane that crashed nearby and some nearby ghost-town. It has security and water. Your example is stupid. Pick a better one. There are plenty.

>>14994562

It needed a steam lobby to work from memory. They were prevented from putting up the 'game' because copyright. Even for free. Apparently the project is still going ahead. They're allowed to release it, they just can't publish it on steam. Only it needs steam api's to work. So who fucking knows?

>>14994568

>A water source

Water was not as scarce as the shitty writing would have you believe. Even if that is your justification, why not transport the water elsewhere then? There was nothing preventing them from having the water source just down the road, or piping it elsewhere, and it involves one hell of a lot less radiation and potential for getting blown the fuck up.

>Security

Ah yes, the security of living on top of radioactive explosive ordinance, nothing like it! They dismantled planes to build the walls of the town yes, but 1: why move the parts there specifically? Why not build the town so that the Nuke was at the very least outside of the walls or isolated within an enclosure separate from the rest of the town to avoid radiation? 2: Why not just, you know, live in the planes? That way Bethesda can have their shitty set piece weird settlement and also have an actual logic to why people did something.

There are indeed several other examples, but Megaton is still absolutely pants on head retarded.

>>14994627

I don't see them living in a plane, but they sure as hell could have just occupied Springdale and used the aircraft parts to fortify the place. The bomb is still pretty close though so they could still build a quest around it.

>>14994627

>Water was not as scarce as the shitty writing would have you believe.

>main plot is about turning on a giant water purifier

Holy shit you're bad at this.

>why move the parts there specifically?

Because the nuke cultists had the water, the nuke and the manpower to deal with construction and threats in the wasteland.

There is plenty of shit you can bitch about. No need to lie though.

>all this Bethesda apologism

And people said that Toddposting isn't leddit tier faggotry.

>>14994708

Hey anon. Check this out. New Vegas was published by Bethesda Softworks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas

>>14994729

>can't be bothered to make his own arguments

>smugly bring up a non-sequitur instead and expects others to make an argument for him

>>14994704

>main plot is about turning on a giant water purifier

>except purifying water is pretty easy and doesn't require anywhere near the amount of resources that they put into building the water purifier since using the GECK in just about any other way would be more effective

>you can literally just boil and distill it to purify it of radioactive particles

>but no we need a giant water filter for reasons

>tons of other water sources in the waste, still haven't come up with a reason the people didn't just go elsewhere or pipe the water elsewhere while striking a deal with the cultists to leave the nuke (and them) alone in exchange for water, or why the residents weren't ghouls or something since they wouldn't give a shit about the radiation it would be a better deal for them

>Because the nuke cultists had the water, the nuke and the manpower to deal with construction and threats in the wasteland.

>literally 4 of them in town to the 30+ other NPCs

Holy shit you're bad at this. No need to bait though.

>>14994568

You mean irradiated shitty water

Speaking of which, the same nuke cultists stand in the irradiated shitty water erryday all day although it would kill you if you stood in it for even a day or two.

It's a shit game.

>>14994787

>Also, if you unironically play vidya then you have to go back.

<muh games are shit boo hoo hoo i am so grown up

Reported, go back to cuckchan.

>>14994796

>supporting cosmetics

No need to project.

>>14991078

>as soon as you level up to a significant level, you start getting mutant overlords, reavers, and albino radscorpions

>these enemies soak entire magazines of ammo unless you use specific weapons with sneak attacks and have PC-specific hidden damage bonuses

>lanky swampfolk hitting harder than deathclaws

>DR is inferior to DT since it takes the same percentage off any weapon's damage

>tying a main quest to an external NPC is a shitty design choice, same as Fallout 4

>no real faction choice except the obvious good guys in the BoS

>muh giant robot scripted sequences that take any sense of tension away from the player

>everything to do with the vanilla purifier activation

The lore is fucking marginal at this point.

This is their new payed mods btw.

Its an "online game" so that they can say "oh sorry mods arent compatible because servers and stuff" and people will go with it.

>>14990754

>2d:

FO2 > FO1 >>>> FO:T & FOBoS

>3d

FO:NV >> FO:3 >>> FO:4

>>14991039

>entire wasteland seems disjointed and lifeless

You mean that it feels like society has completely collapsed?

>>14990769

>>>/leddit/

>>>/ovens/

idc, which but go and stay go.

>>14990754

Fallout 1 but kill Ian when you get another companion, he's fucking useless. can't wait to end his pathetic life then play 2. Have yet to play tactics or any of the others.

>>14995279

Mods can work but they would have to be basic client side mods, UI changes and anything that doesn't directly interfere with the game are fine. Skyrim online had the same sort of thing and it was basically just ease of access mods, don't expect too much basically.

>>14995349

No, because society would start to immediately rebuild. 20 there would be a shit load of risen settlements and ever growing population. Fallout is honestly a complete cop-out of a fictional world.

>>14995320

>2D:

Only FO2 with the fan patch and game file editor to fix the balance issues is worth playing. FO1 is playable but make sure you play it before FO2 or else it wouldn't be.

>3D:

FO4 >>>> FO3 > FONV

>>14995367

And you think that the remnants of the Chinese would allow it to happen?

>/v/aggots complaining about purchasable cosmetics

Fucking seriously?

Also, after launch, you can set up your own private world, so it's not like there's anything pay2win here.

>>14994426

In my opinion, it should've been impossible to convince legate lanius to not fight. Throughout the game, you hear about how Lanius only cares about winning at any cost. It feels cheap to convince him by saying 'if you take over hoover dam, you lose'.

>>14990754

Fallout 3 isn't bad, despite of what some people claim. You might enjoy it if you liked NVs gameplay, since it's pretty much the same with less features, like crafting. But I'm sure there's mods for that. The biggest problem for me is the setting, the game is supposed to take place 200 years after the war, but it feels like the war was only a few months ago, it's also a bit questionable how or where people get their food. There's also some grievances people have with the main plot, but I really liked it.

>>14995399

/v/ had grudges for hat simulator too?

>>14995437

>You might enjoy it if you liked NVs gameplay, since it's pretty much the same with less features, like crafting.

Less gameplay features but better level design. There's no such like wandering aimlessly in the empty corridors repconn test site here, the levels are well made.

>200 years after the war, but it feels like the war was only a few months ago

200 years after the war, but it's only a few decades after the first settlers came to DC.

>the main plot

First half is pretty good, I definitely like it better than other fallout games, but the second half is shitty. The story would be better off without Enclaves or BoS, seems like they're just an afterthought in order to retcon the previous games.

>>14995452

>200 years after the war, but it's only a few decades after the first settlers came to DC.

Really? Where in the game is that stated? I was under the impression that Rivet City for example got stranded there during or right after the war.

>>14995452

Agreed. I don't mind the East Coast Brotherhood being different that much since they at least address it in-game with the outcasts, but the game railroading them into being the good guys is stupid. Liberty Prime was legit amazing, though.

>>14994427

>commando/gunslinger

>ninja

>grunt

>them's goood eatin'

>silent running

>super slam

>fight the power/just lucky I'm alive

>>14995423

They should have gone the same route as persuading Ulysses without using a speeech check: 100 speech/barter opens the option followed by selecting actual logical arguments to convince him, ideally with multiple sequences. Something similar to what Autumn Leaves does in its last "fight." Besides, if Courier can persuade Joshua Graham and Ulysses, Lanius isn't that much of a reach.

On a related tangent, New Vegas really needed more cases where blindly picking a skill check because it was there would royally fuck over the player. To my memory, the only case where that happens is with Dean in Dead Money.

>>14995452

>200 years after the war, but it's only a few decades after the first settlers came to DC.

I checked the wiki and there's nothing to suggest this on there. Where did you get this?

>>14995477

Thats the difference between New Vegas and Fallout 3. In New Vegas, there are things that could be better or could be improved. Fallout 3, however, just doesn't work.

>>14995498

Already out of stock? Fuck sake, I was saving my money to buy that. It'll save me from having to make one for my cosplay.

>>14995389

Remember when cosmetics were things you could unlock by playing the game, faggot?

can't we unlock the MTX by playing ?

it's a solo rpg so why ?!

I wish the cosmetic only, microtransations, and dlc memes would die already. Bethesda is also a shit developer who doesn't deserve support.

>>14995486

He took that from out of his shill's ass. There was people on DC already since the beginning, like those ghouls at the museum.

>>14995620

In fairness, ghouls can survive in much harder environments than humans. But of course that doesn't prove anything.

I'd actually be willing to accept that explanation, but I think the other anon just pulled it out of his ass as you said.

>>14995320

>FO2 > FO1

FO2 is too much of a memefest to be better than FO1.

>>14995572

>no TES 6 until at least 2020

That's only a year and 2/3rds away.

>>14995648

>at least

Also the last TES was in 2011 so yeah…

>>14990865

>>14994167

>Cosmetic only microtransactions that can be unlocked without paying

No really, tell me what's wrong here. Don't knock your teeth out with those knee-jerk reactions, please.

>>14995654

When has it ever been that? It's never that simple, anon, it's sugar to make it easier to swallow the cyanide.

>>14995470

It's implied that Rivet City was the first community in DC, as there was no history of DC before theirs.

>Rivet City for example got stranded there during or right after the war

Nah, Horace Pinkerton built Rivet City.

>>14995486

Settlers wandered out of the DC shortly after the war. Megaton and Rivet City were only formed like 40-50 years before the FO3 events. Traders only came to DC after Megaton was built, because the place was full of raiders and mutants before.

>>14995645

Being a memefest is better than being a dull game. Gameplay was better too.

>>14995758

Again, where are you getting any of this? I don't remember any of that being in the game and I haven't found anything on the wiki.

>>14995758

I'll tell you what, I can't wait for all the supermutants and deathclaws before those should be a thing.

We already saw deathclaws in the trailer which, honestly, makes no sense. There's no way they'd have spread that far east so fast - in fact, I'm not even sure they should exist at all just yet.

and nothing of value was lost

>No mods and (((cosmetic microtransactions))) instead

Is this the ship where Bethesda dies?

>>14995781

Read the wiki, talked to the elder NPCs, and made some rough estimation.

>>14995866

There are mods, just not the ones with script extender I think.

>>14995890

Forget about porn, you can't make a cannibal automated butchery without Script Extenders.

The only thing that tempted me to buy the shitty fallout 4 was the All Mods all Weapons mod and the Factory extender thing I don't remember its name, to customize crazy weapons in any crazy way and to have an auto butchery that gets any corpse and prepares the meat for cooking.

>>14995911

Speaking of FO4 and mods, I've thought about pirating it soon because I need a Fallout fix, are there any good porn mods?

>>14995941

Im on the second to last level on fallout tactics.

>>14995941

The same sort of person that would watch e3: casuals

p2w incoming

>>14995941

Its still alive in my mind and my computer

Isn't the game free?

>free multiplayer game with cosmetic only purchases that can still be acquired via gameplay

Watch the gameplay suck, everything be way too expensive to actually acquire via in game currency, the graphics be Fallout 4 tier and the game being too shit overall to be worth getting it for free.

>>14996051

or /v/

>>14995654

>tell me what's wrong here

microtransactions are

>>14995520

>>14995498

>sold-out

It's fake, to make people believe it's popular.

>>14997535

It's probably scalpers

>>14992180

much like cuckchan a majority of the traffic is lurkers. how many people post is definitely not representative of how many people are actually browsing

>>14998128

I wouldn't believe that lurkers who never post would go through the effort of going to twitter to follow an account on a site they don't interact that much with.

>>14991009

>>14990992

does it not literally say in the OP

>any purchaseable cosmetics available will also be available to earn through gameplay.

all that means is some kids will have cooler looking power armor sooner that others because they stole dad's credit card

>>14997564

Playing Tactics is a good way to get PTSD from that fortified Super Mutant camp in the St-Louis mission. "Oh look, there's a super mutant 4 screens away, I'll just snipe it to death after I move my squad in a safe spot". And then it kills your entire fucking squad with one burst from its Browning. I'm still mad 17 fucking years later.

>>14995808

>There's no way they'd have spread that far east so fast

Deathclaws were engineered by the government using FEV before the war to supply the troops.

I don't like Fallout 4 in the god damned slightest, but I'm tired of people here ranking it lower than Fallout 3. Fallout 3 was reprehensible fucking filth, and it seems most people have forgotten just how bad it was.

>>14995808

Given the deliberately nebulous nature of FEV I can actually let that slide easier than pretty much everything else. I mean, even the premise - if you're supposed to be out re-claiming Appalachia and have all been living in the same vault then WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYONE MURDERING THEIR FRIENDS AND LOVED ONES OVER LITERAL GARBAGE INSTEAD OF DOING THEIR DAMN JOB? I've been turning this over in my head since the first trailer and I still can't make sense of it.

after stripping out all the skills and meaningful choices I was curious to see how Pete would dumb down Fallout next, or if he even could.

I didn't expect "Turn it into Destiny" to be his solution, but I'll be damned if I'm not impressed in a perverse sort of way.

Im still hoping that new vegas mod frontier is good they seem to be putting alot of effort into it. and also i heard good things from cyberpunk 2077.

>tfw was happy its an fps

>>15001675

Relax dude, there's always reddit welcoming your taste with open arms :^)

>>15001675

>EU4

>Hearts of Iron 3

>Red Orchestra

You objectively have bad taste.

>>15001690

>doesn't even know how to embed

>>>/reddit/

>>15001718

>HoI3

>Good

>Red Cuckestra

>Good

Like I said, you have objectively bad taste.

>>15001728

anon.,,,

>Thread still up

Dobt you niggers DARE complain about the board quality ever again.

>>15001530

You're gonna be disappointed.

https://www.gameinformer.com/e32018/2018/06/14/cyberpunk-2077-will-have-more-diverse-romance-options-than-the-witcher-3

"Similar to the Witcher, but with more diversity," Mills said. "There are a lot more options. You know, you're defining your own character here, which means defining their sexuality any way you want. With Geralt, you had a character whose sexuality was very well defined by the novels and the short stories and the previous games. But in this one, it's up to you to decide. We've got NPCs that are gay, we've got NPCs that are bi, we've got NPCs that are straight, because we want them to feel real and that they have preferences as well."

Archiving wasn't working sadly, so I had to direct link it.

>>15001753

>Still has no taste

>>15001742

It only just started sinking.

So are modders gonna work to unlock the Day 1 DLC that we know is going to be on-disc?

>>14990961

Did mark piss his pants? Why is his crotch wet?

>>15001775

Sauce pls

>>14990744

>game I had no hope for and had no intention of playing is going to suck

thanks for the head's up OP, enjoy your dubs