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aaf3ec No.14959805

Just downloaded dark souls 3 whats the most OP build for pve. I dont want to do bosses 400 times and learn their moveset and shit. I just want to fuck everything up like niggers they are. Any recomendetations?

210973 No.14959816

just go full strength. DaS3 is extremely forgiving when it comes to damage dealing so going full strength with a heavy weapon will rush you through the game. Really, only two bosses and one area should give you any trouble.


aaf3ec No.14959823

>>14959816

so i should put all my souls into str? What about endurance and vit?


409342 No.14959824

I recommend you use a sturdy rope to kill yourself with. Remember:You need to drop at least 1 1/2 times your height to assure a broken neck.


aaf3ec No.14959832

>>14959824

no thank you


df6bc6 No.14959834

>>14959805

Why don't you just download a trainer to give yourself infinite HP?


aaf3ec No.14959840

>>14959834

that would be cheating


82c796 No.14959841

>i just want to fuck everything up like the niggers they are

You do the rope build and hang yourself with it.


aaf3ec No.14959842

>>14959841

no thank you


df6bc6 No.14959861

>>14959840

Do you honestly care? If all you want is to fuck shit up in the game, without learning patterns or strategies or enemy placements, you might as well play in god mode.


df6bc6 No.14959865

>>14959861

Plus if you play in offline mode, nobody cares how you play your singleplayer game.


aaf3ec No.14959866

>>14959861

Yea but doing boss for the 400th time is not fun at all


210973 No.14959874

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>>14959823

this is what I ended the game on. Really, you'll be swapping out the armors you need based on the situation more than anything. I started the game as a tank with my armor choice, but ended it playing it more similarly to Ninja Gaiden. For better or worse they removed the focus on building your armor as it really isn't important to your build any more.


df6bc6 No.14959891

>>14959866

Are you really that bad at video-games, that you expect to die hundreds of times at every boss encounter?


bab0e1 No.14959902

Invest in health and endurance, armor is useless so just use the lightest set you can find. Grab a straight sword and go to town. This game has overall shitty build variety, most end game builds are gonna just looks like some variation of >>14959874. Magic can be good at the end game but it's hell trying to start as a magic user (or god forbid a faith build).


b3261f No.14959907

>>14959866

it'll take you 1 - 3 tries for most bosses.


210973 No.14959909

>>14959874

also, don't focus on any sort of tank build. This game definitely does not accommodate it. Many attacks will go right through shields and the armor makes no difference to them. If you're slower you'll just be a bigger target.


aaf3ec No.14959934

>>14959902

So go full str or health? Which one?


bab0e1 No.14959935


aaf3ec No.14959943

>>14959935

both? Which one do i go full first?


210973 No.14959964

>>14959943

I never found health to be much of a problem for me, but I'm used to glass canon builds and this game is far more forgiving with its damage than the other two. At most maybe put 10 points in health if you're having trouble with it.


aaf3ec No.14959992

>>14959964

So go 40 strenght if trouble 10 into vigor and rest into endurance?


bab0e1 No.14959994

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>>14959943

Ok gonna be a bit more helpful, you want an easy way through the game? Unless it got nerfed at some point grab this thing (very early boss weapon) make a quality build (roughly even STR/DEX maybe favoring DEX) 2hand it and rape everything (or ideally vary between 1 and 2hand attacks depending on situation). You want VIG and END to get to around 40 at some point, i went 40 DEX 20ish STR, ignore VIT and mage stats. Was OP as shit in both PVE and PVP. Oh and start as knight.


210973 No.14960009

>>14959992

that's more or less what I did, also see >>14959994

I beat the game with a great axe and ended up fighting the final boss naked because I needed the speed. It's definitely the easiest Souls game with two or 3 bosses being somewhat difficult. It really shouldn't give you much trouble.


09b354 No.14960033

Armors and shields suck, so you should go full dexfag.


97e8d6 No.14960060

>>14959805

If you want super easy mode in PvE, use a fully upgraded (Refined/Heavy/Fire is okay too I believe) Longsword or my personal preference, the Broadsword. These things are R1 spam heaven due to their low stamina cost per swing, which allows for easy attack management (i.e. dish out 4-5 hits and have stamina left for blocking/rolling just in case). Finished the game + DLC + all bosses without dying with the Broadsword. Also, if you want to enable cheat mode, get 15 INT and Hidden Body + Lingering Crest Ring (if you played Dark Souls, this combo will make you feel like wearing the Ring of Fog). Finally, if you want something with a bit more punch and range, the Exile Greatsword is not a bad choice.


aaf3ec No.14960074

>>14960060

So which one do i go str or dex? Im getting several different builds here


97e8d6 No.14960100

>>14960074

With the Longsword it doesn't really matter as Heavy (STR) gives A scaling, Refined (STR/DEX) gives B/B scaling and Sharp (DEX) gives A scaling. For the nitty gritty, use the MugenMonkey character planner to minmax your build.


bab0e1 No.14960111

>>14960074

They're all more or less the same build. Bring VIG and END to 40 at some point, find your favorite hurt stick and raise the stats it uses, ignore armor and magic very optional. The broadsword run >>14960060 suggests would be really easy too. As for STR or DEX do you wanna hit shit harder or faster? Both can work but i say DEX/quality builds are easiest.

>>14960060

>15 INT and Hidden Body + Lingering Crest Ring

Throw in the ring that makes your footsteps silent and the ring that restores mana on critical hits and you can stealth through entire levels, a single backstab pays for a casting of hidden body. Don't do this if you're new though, it'll kill your opportunities to gitgud and bosses will destroy you.


aaf3ec No.14960123

>>14960100

how about that broadsword


ed7322 No.14960130

Fat rolling offensive miracle build shits damage and heals through everything


97e8d6 No.14960181

>>14960123

It's too bad I lost my original notes on the build, but iirc going Heavy (STR) gives you A scaling and the damage output per swing is a bit higher than the Longsword, so better DPS. Also, when in Stance, the Broadsword's heavy attack is a forward lunge + upward swing which gives you the ability to attack from a modest distance. I prefer it over the Longsword, but you should test both swords yourself to see which weapon you like best (both of them are available very early in the game).

>>14960111

Indeed, but personally I barely used the silent footsteps ring as enemies tend to ignore you sufficiently with just Hidden Body (at least for my purposes at the time).


aaf3ec No.14960266

>>14960111

Yea dex build sounds like to go rolling and hitting


98f54a No.14960293

Farm for the Great Mace, infuse it with Strength. Level Strength to 50 or 45 and use the STR ring. Prepare to annihilate everything.


24373e No.14960330

You can use infinite respec so go for whatever. Lots of bosses are weak to lightning so 60faith and 15 int (for invis) works. Sunlight spear shotgun can one shot players. 60int and css will blow shit up as usual. People still surprinsgly fall for homing crystal soulmass into css.


35a6c3 No.14960331

Go full vitality+endurance, biggest armor, biggest shield, and an elemental weapon so you don't need to worry about strength for damage.


35a6c3 No.14960335

>>14960331

Literally the easiest build in the game. Don't have to give a shit, just hold up your big shield and smack stuff when they stop hitting.


aaf3ec No.14960361

>>14960331

People said to ignore armor


690168 No.14960370

>>14960361

Yes because without poise, and with the nerfs to stamina damage when blocking, both are pointless, the situation is also worse because the enemies attack like bloodborne enemies, eg; spastic. So agi and dodging is easier.


aaf3ec No.14960375

>>14960370

So which one do i go?


690168 No.14960407

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>>14960375

Fuck if I know. wtv you want.


09b354 No.14960414

>>14960375

dex build


aaf3ec No.14960417

>>14960407

Reterd you said armor sucks so i should go naked and get my ass fucked or should i wear heaviest fucking armor ever with heavies shield possible with heaviest weapon or just go naked with needle in hand


690168 No.14960429

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>>14960417

>Reterd

excellent.

Also, I said it's useless to wear armor because every hit makes you break stance, so wielding a massive fucking sword and trying to be a heavy knight will do fuck all, since you're essentially as protected as the faggot wearing mages robes and your attacks will be stopped every time, despite your slow as fuck swings.Add it together.

My actual suggestion? Fashion souls with a fast weapon. If you like str go for a fast str weapon, if you like dex go for a fast dex weapon, though iirc the weapons in das3 are stupid in that a lot of them require a great deal o f str and dex now, which is retarded. And despite armors shittiness, it still slows you down making you fat roll if you got to much.


35a6c3 No.14960458

>>14960361

They're retarded. Dodging sucks balls. Just go full armor and you can just chug a potion if you get hit and refill your full screen bar. Armor doesn't do A LOT, but it's the difference between dying in 2 or 3 hits at a boss, which imo is A LOT.


35a6c3 No.14960461

>>14960370

>Nerfs to stamina damage

Nigga you just need the good tower shields and you can block anything and just fuck em up.


6f9eb6 No.14960463

>>14960458

Poise doesn't work so armour doesn't do as much as it should.


0f06b8 No.14960466

>>14959805

Use anything with the Quickstep weapon art to rape bosses. Attacking out of/into a Quickstep is way faster than trying to do the same thing with dodge rolls. I prefer the Brigand Twindaggers with a Bandit Knife backup, both of which you can get really early.

Get both Pontiff rings, Chloranthy and FaP rings (upgrading to +3 at the Ringed City). Farm swordgrass for the Old Wolf Curved Sword and put it in your offhand, holstered on your back to get even more healing/damage from the Twindaggers' combos. Level up stamina to 40 and you'll be able to keep swinging and quickstepping for days. Champ Gundyr, Gael, Friede, and the Nameless King all go down like bitches against this setup.


35a6c3 No.14960467

>>14960429

You don't go 2 hander, you just go big shield. Fuck. You don't have to tank every hit just cause you have armor you stupid nigger.


3d2e68 No.14960481

I wonder how honest this thread is being


690168 No.14960483

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>>14960467

>armors main function is gone, thereby making it useless

>just ignore its useless anyway and wear a shield!

Good rationalization. Armor is useless, and functionally makes you slower, despite giving very little in return. It's objectively better to wear either light armor or no armor, for the speed. Also, shields are dependent on stamina, which depletes significantly quicker now due to

a) the enemies spastic constant attacks which can often destroy your guard in one chain attack despite being able to survive several chain attacks in older souls titles

b)You have less stamina to work with as attacks seem to do more damage to your stamina than in previous iterations.

It's easier and more cost effective/smarter to just dodge like a bitch constantly. They're a reason why DaS3 is known as bloodbornes bastard child.


690168 No.14960484

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>>14960461

Bullshit. I beat the game and the tower shields dont save your ass from a chain attack by a spastic enemy. Stop lying.


35a6c3 No.14960515

>>14960483

>Armor is useless because you can't attack while you're getting hit in the face

>Hiding behind a big shield that blocks everything in the entire game just fine

>Still wanting to dodge.

>Still wearing turd armor and having less survivability


35a6c3 No.14960527

>>14960484

Fuck off, stop trying to use tower shields with like 15 endurance. As long as you don't dump points into useless stats you can block pretty much everything from the Twins to Pontiff. If they do hit you cause you're shit you just pop a potion and you can fail 3 times more before you drink again.


690168 No.14960538

>>14960515

>Armor is useless because you can't attack while you're getting hit in the face

You could in DaS1 & DaS2. Funny that.

>Hiding behind a big shield that blocks everything in the entire game just fine

No it doesn't. Especially not against multiple enemies which worked in previous iterations.

>Still wanting to dodge.

>Still wearing turd armor and having less survivability

If you willingly choose an inferior method to play the game, thats main benefit, poise, has been removed, which allowed you to attack without interruptions, and not be stunlocked when hit and evading, then you're bad at the game and need to reevaluate your choices.

>>14960527

>Backpedalling already

Fuck off. Sword and board and heavy armor is obsolete thanks to from. Go damage control somewhere else.


05a84c No.14960553

>please tell me how to play the game so I don't have to think

You're fucking pathetic OP


fe4490 No.14960570

Currently I'm rocking a Great Sage build with dubs as a dump stat.


35a6c3 No.14960574

>>14960538

git gud faggot lol


aaf3ec No.14960587

So which one dex build or vit,end with big ass armor and shield?


35a6c3 No.14960590

>>14960587

Just pick one you dumb piece of shit.


aaf3ec No.14960601

>>14960590

Which one is better?


690168 No.14960610

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>>14960574

>

>>14960587

Just fucking favor dex, with enough str for the requirements for your dex weapons, and roll to victory like a normal person. Everything else is standard minimum health/stamina/ requirements.


e709a6 No.14960750

pick cleric for the mace and extra heals early, pump strength and r1 like a mad man and breeze through the game

there you go ds3 complete and also just roll through attacks dont bother with blocking bosses


eddb2d No.14960850

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i went full STR with a mace and yhorm's greatshield, easiest time you will have in this game


3821b6 No.14961042

Recently I bought DS3 (my first DS game) and I tried out a few different builds. Since I hated that every weapon has approximately 30-minute windup time, I decided to go for a dagger build. I use bandit knife and I've had no issues whatsoever. I killed all bosses in under 10 tries (I killed Dancer on my third try). I put all my points in luck and went for a bleed build. The bandit knife's special ability is completely overpowered.


8b95ec No.14961058

>>14960458

Learn to roll and parry.


8b95ec No.14961071

>>14960601

Pure DEX or STR take skill and timing which you seem to lack, based on these questions. Just wear decent armor, a shield with 100% physical, and use some easy weapon like a longsword. EZ mode


46cd11 No.14961083

Just play as a mage get a magic straight sword and go full INT, the start is a bit hard, but that is only until you are free to go and find all the estus shards and bone shards to increase your magic refills, after the first 2 bosses you will be murdering everything from a mile away with the exception of that faggot boss Gungnir or whatever his name was who never stops rushing and attacking but he is just an optional boss.

I only played until the revision in which the last DLC launched, they did several more revisions so idk if this still applies


8b95ec No.14961089

Do a pure faith cleric build, because then you can use miracles to heal yourself and don't have to worry about gay potions. Also you can attack enemies from a distance. This is the best way to play the game, and will bring you the most success with the least effort.


b73596 No.14961817

File: 90fc38c9443da7d⋯.gif (589.12 KB, 499x220, 499:220, laugh.gif)

>>14960458

>dodging sucks balls in the dark souls game with the best rolling


4595ff No.14962001

>>14959805

>being this much of a casual

The only time I used guides was when I was totally stuck in one area for hours and didn't know where to go.


520ce5 No.14984052

>>14959805

Maximum str.


903022 No.14996633

>>14959805

Play Bloodborne instead.


dd55f1 No.14996677

If this game didn't split Endurance and Vitality and also didn't fuck poise into the ground, heavy armor would be worthwhile. As it stands, it only slightly reduces damage, but it's really better to just roll out of everything. Seriously, every encounter is bested by rolling. It ain't called "Roll souls" for nothin'


ce5e54 No.14996725

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>pls tell me how to beat the game

No but honestly just pick either strength or dex for a first playthrough. Hollowslayer greatsword is still great like >>14959994 said but it requires a different upgrade material. One of the best weapons in the game is still the astora greatsword, its good infused with literally anything but I think its best with dex iirc. If you just want to mindlessly spam every fight just go sword and board dex with a lothric straight sword.


16e628 No.14997104

File: 740ddffc17ba14b⋯.png (222.33 KB, 2200x2200, 1:1, 740ddffc17ba14b422d3f52e9a….png)

>what build should I choose

That line of thinking is a fucking meme, and I'll tell you why. In Demon's Souls and Dark Souls I, a character's stats would eventually hit diminishing returns such that it would be a waste of good souls, which could be used for other purposes, to go beyond a specific Soul Level. Since Dark Souls II, however, the concept of the character build has been cast aside in favor of encouraging "high-level play", which itself was meant to address twinking. I am not a dev who worked on the game, and this is just my opinion, but you can clearly see that Soul Memory was originally intended to try and provide players with a matchmaking system that would pair players of similar ability and ensure that twinks were unable to stay at low levels and maintain their advantage.

Soul Memory simply keeps track of every soul a character has ever collected. The more souls a character collects, the higher their Soul Memory climbs, and as a result, the character is placed in a higher matchmaking tier. The problem with this is that, because it only accounts for collected souls, it's possible for a low level player to unintentionally fuck himself. If you have a large number of souls and you lose them, you're fucked. If you have a large number of souls but you spend them on consumables and pointless weapon upgrades, you're fucked. You're fucked because those wasted souls are going to contribute to increases in your Soul Memory regardless of whether or not they were well used. If you're a shit player, you're fucked because you might find yourself in a high Soul Memory tier with shit weapons and low stats, which places you at a disadvantage when compared to those who know how to be as efficient as possible. Soul Memory is a strict system that will punish players who don't continuously level their character and stay within the "meta" of the tier they're currently in. In DaSI, the "community PVP meta" was 120-130; you didn't have to follow this, but it was determined by the playerbase themselves. In DaSII, it can be said that each Soul Memory tier has its own level range, and each player must continually move towards the final tier, at which point they should either be proficient at everything or suffer a disadvantage. The point is that this system was not designed for people who want to min-max and stay within a certain level range.

In DaSIII, Soul Memory was replaced with weapon reinforcement matchmaking. Say you're a level 24 invader using the Red Eye Orb and you want to twink on some bitches. Because you will connect to hosts who are between SL 46 and 21, who themselves can summon players between ranges SL 60 and 8, depending on their level, you are already at a disadvantage. In addition to this fact, weapon matchmaking will ensure that you cannot use that +10 greatsword to connect to someone at your level, which means that you'll be either fail to connect half the time or you'll only connect to other players in your level who also have a +10 weapon that will remove any advantage that you thought you'd gain against them. This system effectively destroys the concept of the character build because players have no reason to min-max their stats anymore.

In DaSII, because of Soul Memory, you can't stay at low levels and play end game content without removing yourself from having an advantage in multiplayer. In DaSIII, the system is rigged in the hosts' favor and weapon matchmaking prevents twinks from having an advantage.

>what's the point in explaining all of this you turbo autist

The point is that "character builds" only really matter in the context of multiplayer matchmaking. If you just want to play PvE content, then there's no reason to ever ignore any stat in the game (even the supposedly "useless ones" like Resistance. This is simply because, no matter which stat you raise, your character's general standing will always improve. In these games, stats are only important for two things:

>Being able to wield a weapon; use a spell; wear equipment while maintaining your mobility

>Weapon/spell/stat scaling

So, to be as simple as possible: Pick a weapon and run with it. Reinforce it as much as you can. Pump your souls into health, stamina and whatever stats your weapon scales with. After that, increase secondary stats (i.e. shit like vigor and attunement that only increase your ability to cast more spells, etc) at your leisure. There's no reason to restrict yourself.


59f325 No.14997294

>>14959805

>the most OP build

Gitting gud at suicide


90c428 No.14997563

>>14997104

>In DaSIII, the system is rigged in the hosts' favor and weapon matchmaking prevents twinks from having an advantage.

They ported this mechanic into DaS Remastered, too. There it actually fucks over everyone but twinks, though, because the game is littered with unique weapons that are automatically counted as +5/+10 and it completely ignores magic due to catalysts being stuck at base level.


33654b No.14997929

>>14959805

OP, here is the correct answer

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/312628

Lloyd's Rings are horribly Overpowered in this game. Trying to maintain Full HP is also the most effective way to play the game. This build is made around abusing those two Overpowered rings which are available quite early on in the game.

You're not supposed to wield the Great Machete at all times unless you can afford the weight with whatever fucking armor you wear. The great Machete is the highest value weapon other than Anri's straight sword as it's really long, really high damage, and has hyper armor.

Congrats, every other build is pointless now, even in PVP. Here's a similar build but using a small shield because parries are too easy in this game. https://youtu.be/zEd2wPurrrs

>youtube mirror

Sorry, I don't post often and I couldn't really give a shit.

Enjoy the shittiest Souls game.


33654b No.14997952

>>14961817

Well, he's kind of right in the regard that dodging isn't needed when you can just hyper armor and out-trade. Poise was implemented after the last DLC and it made STR weapons completely busted as you can just force trades to win. The problem with it is that most of those STR weapons are immune to parries, Estus is almost nonpunishable, and backstabs are nerfed and wonky as fuck.

The counter to it would to play Spear which is the ACTUAL strongest way to play. You just stand still and press R1 in odd timings when they get near you.


33654b No.14998063

>>14997563

Well, it does hinder twinks a bit as it does the same to them.

SL matchmaking will never be balanced for invasions because it's still too fucking easy to get OP gear early on.

SM matchmaking was the correct answer to that but the lack of information on it made things worse. All people had to do was not assume DaS2 was shit and appreciate it's changes then we could've had better games. Instead people want twinks and R1 spam2win.


ee99ff No.15004839

>>14959866

So take a different path and do some exploring, come back to that boss later when your skill has improved.


02e754 No.15004948

>>14960850

Yhorm's greatshield + Exiled Armor is easymode

You can use either a straight sword of choice and there you go. Easiest PvE build. Enemies will get stunned when they hit the greatshield due to the high poise/stability


02e754 No.15004953

>>14996725

Astora greatsword got nerfed

Straight swords are still easymode for pve or pvp. Lothric knight sword is the best PvP straight sword. Dark Sword is best pve Sword.


02e754 No.15004984

I actually just finished my Journey 2 new game+ and first time doing the Ringed City DLC. I went STR/DEX refined gem on my Straight sword and Yhorm's Greatshield, had 45 poise without even trying to get any and just waited on enemies to bonk on shield to attack, or rolled to get slashes in. It was a very easy game, so I was kind of unsatisfied. I may respec my 40 vitality points into something else but eh already finished the game.


1a0878 No.15005023

Full STR is easymode. If you do that, you'll have an easy time and won't even need VIG or anything else.

Besides, you can always put a few points in other stats in the late game when the difficulty ramps up. Make sure you're at 40 STR before you even consider doing any of that shit though, it'd be a waste of souls.


3888ae No.15005056

>garbage magic

>no powerstancing

>quality nerfed to shit

>"builds" are just putting points into dex/str and the rest into hp and stamina

why even bother with this game?


3888ae No.15005081

>>14997104

SM means absolutely nothing in DS2 because of megamule and even then you'd have an advantage 90% of the time if you spent all your souls on pure levels and ONLY to upgrade ONE weapon.

>you can't stay at low levels in ds2

confirmed for not knowing about the agape ring to keep yourself in SM tier 1-4 with (I shit you not) enough souls to get yourself to +10. Gee I wonder what you do with the limited 40K souls you can use…hmm maybe a build?


16e628 No.15005125

>>15005081

>hurr you can bypass the system's limitations if you cheat

Great point.

>hurr what about the agape ring

The agape ring is shit. If you use it, sure, you can stay within a certain range, but that's only because it eats your souls. You know, your fucking currency? The item that you need if you want to continue building your character or forging weapons or buying consumables from merchants?

Has anyone ever told you that you're retarded? I bet you get it a lot.


3888ae No.15005237

>>15005125

The thing is, despite your moralfag attitude, people do use the megamule often and it's common at the lower SM tiers, which means twinking is super common at low levels, making the entire point of SM preventing twinking moot.

>The agape ring is shit

Oh no I might lose a whole 2 levels (3000 souls) and still have my weapon +10 whatever will I do. It still enables you to finish the game at minimal soul memory and allows you to collect anything you want. Sorry SM isn't the great awesome mechanic you want it to be.


b191b1 No.15005301

>>15005237

SM isn't the mechanic it needs to be. You're arguing that it isn't much of a penalty, but if you weren't retarded you'd see it has no reason to exist in the first place, introducing a problem bigger than anything it might fix. SM is a huge burden on characters in the middle of their play-through when they're exploring the poorly-strung together areas trying to get the four great souls, the first two they're likely to reach are The Duke's Dear Freja and The Rotten. Between those two and the remaining two great souls players have the opportunity to waste tens of thousands of souls by dying, which SM penalizes by matching them with players who haven't lost as many souls with no way to backtrack or fix their soul memory, save restarting.

The problem with the Agape ring is that if your gear gets broken, say by an acid cloud spammer, you have to spend souls to get it fixed. And you really are as retarded as everyone must say you are.


16e628 No.15005487

>>15005237

It's a waste of time responding to you, because you are in fact a retard, but it's not like I've got anything else better to do, so here goes.

>moralfag attitude

When did I ever make any kind of moral judgement about the act of cheating? I never said anything on the matter itself. I was pointing out that your point is retarded because it's obvious that you can bypass the system's restrictions if you cheat.

>people do use the megamule often and it's common at the lower SM tiers

>"hurr you can bypass Soul Memory if you start out with a million souls already"

This is like trying to argue that the limitations of a certain training routine are not noteworthy because there exists a savant who underwent the same limited training routine but who managed to become one of the greatest at his trade. Of course he excelled despite his shitty conditioning; he's a fucking savant. It's hard to fail at something if you're born with the propensity to excel at it. It's equally hard to be bound by a game's systems if you're entering the game with some ability to bypass those restrictions from the start.

>Oh no I might lose a whole 2 levels (3000 souls) and still have my weapon +10 whatever will I do.

That's wrong, though, you fucking retard. It's going to cost you around 13,000 souls to bring a weapon from base level to +10, and that's not including the amount of souls you must spend for the necessary materials. In addition, you have to consider all the other things you may have to spend your souls on, such as character levels, consumable items, spells, armor upgrades, and repairs. Unless you want to continue using the same weapon for the duration of your time in your current tier, you're going to have to increase your Soul Memory. Low Soul Memory tiers are separated by a 10,000 soul limit. In other words, you stay in tier 1 as long as you accrue less than 10,000 souls, you stay in tier 2 as long as you accrue less than 20,000 souls, and so on. There's no stopping this process, assuming you're a legitimate player, and the best you can do is use the agape ring to prolong your time in any given tier before you inevitably move up to a new tier, because at some point you will have to use souls.

Furthermore, there are 44 total tiers, and the number of souls that one must acquire before moving from one to the other continues to increase as one moves into higher tiers. At tier 0, it only takes 10k souls to move to tier 1; at tier 40, it takes 3 million souls to reach tier 41. The point is simply that Soul Memory is designed to make it difficult to twink by quickly moving low level players into higher tiers, in the hopes that doing so will remove their ability to have an advantage. The problem with this system is that it just assumes that you've used your souls to the best of your ability. It does not account for souls spent or souls lost, so it's entirely possible to find yourself as a level 30 player in tier 10 with a +5 straight sword who can be paired with others who are double your level and who have higher grade gear than you. That's bad for you, whether you're a twink or a bad player who doesn't know how to use his souls.


1d5a50 No.15005489

i recommend you git gud


2c887f No.15005781

>>14959805

I usually just stack STR and DEX depending on weapon. When you can, trade the Electric armoured dragon knight dudes soul for the Axe and then max it out.


de1117 No.15006154

GIANTS.

GIANTS.

GIANTS.


13672f No.15006201

>>14959805

depends, you want to be melee or pyro?

melee start as the knight get int and faith up to 10 each and then get str up to 66(hard cap for 2hd due to the 50% str increase for 2hding a weapon) or for a pyro build start as, you guess it, the pyromancer and get int and faith to 40 each then throw nukes.


90c428 No.15006264

>>15005301

>The first two they're likely to reach are The Duke's Dear Freja and The Rotten

I'd like to hear the logic behind this. If anything I'd always considered the Lost Sinner to be the first one anyone would run into due to the way the Forest of Fallen Giants is constructed, with the Old Iron King being second since there's two routes into the Lost Bastille.


75fb27 No.15007202

Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.

What else is there to say.

Hang yourself.


02e754 No.15007314

40 is the first soft-cap

60 is the 2nd soft-cap "hardcap" where you need like 2-3 points before you'll get 1 damage bonus/stamina/etc

Just get 40 STR and put heavy on your weapon

later when you're higher level get 40 DEX and get a refined gem, it's like 30-40 more damage on the weapon than heavy, plus the points from dex. Then cap them both at 60/60. The rest should go on vigor and endurance.

Endurance should hit 40 and you shouldn't bother with it anymore.

with vigor hitting 1k health is more than enough for PvE, that's 27 points without ember.

You can put the next points in either more vigor, attunement, vitality, or get int/faith a bit higher to use certain weapons to fuck around. other than that that's pretty much it.

don't bother with a magic build until you're high level to respec and fuck around.


a6b6b8 No.15007338

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>>14959805

>If I use their language, maybe they won't notice I'm being a complete normalfag shitter who needs help on the easiest game in the entire series because infinite summons weren't enough

Use the Soldering Iron if you get it, it prevents enemies from healing since it permanently lowers their health and stems their Estus/Self Healing. I'd ruin the story for you, but its' too complicated for a ultranormalfag like you. Maybe if you watch VaatiVidya, you might understand it ALL even more, completely correctly; he even explains it nice and slow in his 30min videos of content filled informative essays

At least your thread ousts all the cuckchanners and leddidors unironically trying to help a shitter such as yourself. Herbs; cleanse my post.


04cedc No.15007354

just use cheat codes at that point you casual faggot




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