/v/ - HAPPY E3 EVERYONE

>Game tries to make Devil May Cry mixed with Half-life 2 according to behind the scenes game dev interviews.

>Final Level is a shmup

Although in this case, it actually kind of fit.

>>14937683

>Playing devil may cry.

>last level just before the boss is a shoot em up

?

uh no, it was the boss's first phase and you could argue that the final section after you beat the boss is also a shump without the shooting.

It's also because shumps are pure test of skill if there's no rng and/or gay shit.

To add on that list of final level is X, kirby return to dreamland had the final level & 2nd final boss to be a shump & planet robobot was littered with shump sections.

Sparkster did it too and it was cool.

Shantae is shit get better taste in games fag

>>14937846

>uh no, it was the boss's first phase

oh, my bad, been a while since I completed DMC, I mostly just remember really hating that part.

>>14937862

I think its fun, sure half genie hero isn't as fun as pirates curse but its pretty good.

More importantly why are we bumplocked?

>>14938159

>Why is this thread bumplocked?

that is what I am trying to figure out but I cant seem to find mark. I thought I had him on steam but apparently I don't.

>>14938159

>Why is this thread bumplocked?

Reeks of template thread, but maybe the jew can give us a clear cut answer.

>>14938246

>3 video game examples

>specific topic

>template thread

>>14938246

I gave 3 examples of something weird I noticed. If I wanted to be a template thread id have posted something like.

<what are some games with shoot em up levels.

and then give no fucking examples. I dont get it man.

>>14938282

Obviously it's because you're not talking about E3.

Will Bayo 3 have a shump level as a final level?

>>14938258

Starting any thread with greentext is a disservice to yourself and your thread.

>>14938282

You weren't even right with the first example apparently.

What exactly did you expect from this thread?

>>14938296

>about E3

oh yeah EA had their conference. Thankfully I haven't bought an EA game in almost a decade so I dont really care.

Probably, honestly I am more surprised platinum has't just made a whole shoot em up yet, most of kamiyas games have shmup levels in them you would think he really wants to make one.

>>14938350

It's just a way to keep things from getting stale I guess.

I remember Marlow Briggs and the Mask of Death turning into a shump halfway into the game. Was a pretty weird transition

>>14938321

Granted i did get it wrong, it wasn't the stage before but the first phase of the boss that was a shmup. There still was a shoot em up in the finale and the other 2 were right. I just expected people to give examples and have 1 or 2 anons give a good reason why it happens.

Funny enough that is what the thread was, anon even gave me an explaination. >>14937846

>It's also because shumps are pure test of skill if there's no rng and/or gay shit.

And then the thread got bumplocked for some reason I cant figure out.

up you go

Metal Slug does that too with penultimate levels.

>>14938433

Now that I think about it harder, shumps are actually rather deep but honestly shump as a genre is very broad in the same way a beat em up is. With the devil may cry shump section it's a weird crossover of something like star fox, older shumps (space invader, galaga, etc.) and more refined shumps like darius (which kamiya is a big fan of) or later gradius games, due to the complex (but easy to dodge) shot patterns the boss shits out, the only reason i eve bother pointing out older shumps is the fact that a bit of accuracy is involved and you can't get any closer to the enemy than the fixed distance, when you're far away, you do move forward but stop at a certain distance, because you're at a fixed distance there's an odd amount of accuracy involved where you have to 'snipe' the boss's weak points, however there's no fixed amount of bullets like older shumps due to hardware limitations or genuine decision (which isn't bad but hard to convey without being deliberate on the head). I guess the meter is the equivalent to a screen-clearing bomb that builds on attacking the boss.

>>14937683

Because shmups are a tried-and-true gameplay style that aren't hard to make, especially for just a level or two. It's a way to switch up gameplay and easily increase scale. Going from hero, to hero in space ship, is a very obvious ramping up of action. You can pull away the camera and make bosses larger than could fit in normal gameplay view.

>>14940906

Didn't mean to sage.

>>14937683

You remind me of the second phase of Kingdom Hearts 2's final boss.

>>14940802

>Metal Slug

1 didn't, 2 didn't, 3 did it on the last level, 4 is shit, 5 had a considerably small shmup section in the penultimate level too small to count, 7 didn't.

6 is the only one that does it on the penultimate level.

>>14941192

> 4 is shit

how so anon?

>>14937704

What game?

>>14943129

No Eri, enough said.

>>14943147

>he doesn't know how to open a hooktube link.

>>14941192

I put it in plural because I played 3 and X and couldn't remember which one had it. If I recall correctly X is a mashup of different levels from different Metal Slug games as well further complicating things.

>>14937862

I was going to post this. The music in that level is hype.

I'm pretty sure most Kirby games do it too, or at least fairly often. DMC is a Kamiya game, he just likes putting shmups near the end of a game. One sort of exception is Wonderful 101 were practically every Operation has at least one shmup section, but pretty much the only good one is the Space Harrier clone. Why he hasn't bugged Sega to make a new Space Harrier or something is beyond me. As for why so many games end on or near a shmup section, I don't fucking know.

>>14944395

>>14937846

Kirby Dream Land 3 and 64 had shmup secret last bosses.

It just works.

It means that the last boss is an entity so powerful you can't beat it by normal means, and it's represented not only in the narrative but in the gameplay aspect too.

>>14944395

Kamiya and Sega are likely on less-than-good terms considering they didn't want to do Bayonetta 2, pushing him to go to Nintendo.

>>14960540

doesn't mean I can't try

>>14960540

I'd like to believe i could impregnate a zombie girl,after all she's living somehow,doesn't seem too far fetched.

So anyway, I remember that's also how the doujin game Holdover ends, while the rest is metroidvania with sukumizu armour and underwater breathing as central mechanics. At least it doesn't end with Simon Says or a rhythm game.

Pretty much the final stage of any Kirby game

>>14961507