>>14923377
>that euroskepticism allows other nations to either disregard EU laws (lookin' at you, Hungary)
Eastern European politicians make a big show of shitting on the EU but as nations they get far too much economic benefit to actually leave or stand up for themselves, not only do they get fucktons from the budget but being able to send the vast majority of their young abroad is too valuable. All they really do at the end of the day is refuse to take in rapefugees who would rather go to Western nations anyway, a short term and mostly symbolic move that only delays their problem since in 6-8 years once those rapefugees have German/French/Swedish citizenship they automatically gain the right to move to any other EU nation they want no questions asked. It's sad how easy it's been to pacify Eastern Europe with a lot of talk and no action.
>to leave it in the first place (not the UK way but full on establishment dismantlement like it's going on in Italy).
Italy is one of the few nations I've got hope for actually but even then its current anti-EU coalition is made up of two radically different ideologies neither of which want to do more than maybe leave the Eurozone (that's leave the Euro, not the EU).
>Just like with all the other bullshit like SOPA or ACTA, it's not about winning the final battle as much as prolonging the war until they throw up their hands and find some other sector to fuck over.
That's not how the Commission work. They keep trying and trying until they pass the law. They've forced entire nations to rerun referendums before having the EU parliament hold a few more votes is nothing. They also see the internet as the place in which the anti-EU groups organised in the UK so shutting down dissent there is a major goal (they also hire people out of university to 'correct myths' online).
>which do you think is more persistent, a chamber made up of people with strikingly different goals to achieve, or the collective of our autism?
The Commission all have the same goals, they're required in fact to take an oath putting the EU above even national loyalty. They're also playing a decades-centuries long game so persistence doesn't matter. Go back 60-70 years and the predecessor to the EU was a handful of nations talking about coal, it's all about getting little bits of power at a time.
>Need I remind you we pit a fucking potato with a wig against one of the most corrupt and powerful political organization on Earth and still made him do enough damage that (((they))) couldn't pass Net Neutrality bullshit laws and open borders?
The USA is not the EU, the actual constitutional basis of the USA is set up to actually let the people fuck over the politicians because it was set up by people who genuinely believed in that. The EU was set up by people who believed a federal Europe mattered much more than democracy. There is no mechanism to prevent the Commission eventually passing a law if it wants to.
>It's a war of attrition and we're going to win it, whether they like it or not, but this is all about trying to make it harder on us.
Maybe in the USA but right now the EU is winning in Europe, every time it takes over another area of government it makes it harder to leave. For example once everyone signs up to the joint EU army every nation is going to specialise, that means if you threaten to leave your armed forced will be left with the capability to do only a single thing instead of being an all-around force. They're worried because Poland inherited a fuckton of Soviet equipment, particularly tanks, and the German military is a joke. It's been their tactic all along to make it more and more costly to leave.
>>14923394
Pretty much this.