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File: 95d6968f9d541a4⋯.png (246.97 KB, 490x470, 49:47, 1484319574746.png)

41f63d No.14915103

>book gets a new edition

>might have a new introduction or some fixed errors/typos, but everyone expects it to be the same book

>album gets remastered

>might have a different mix, but everyone expects the same songs and recordings

>film gets remastered

>if it was fucked with in any way whatsoever beyond rescanning the film in a higher resolution everyone goes apeshit

>game gets remastered

>REEEEEEEEEE WHY DIDN'T YOU REBUILD IT FROM SCRATCH WITH A NEW ENGINE AND NEW CHARACTER MODELS AND ASSETS

Why do so many casuals not fucking understand the difference between a remaster and a remake? Why do they expect every single rerelease of every game to look like modern AAA garbage or it's trash worthy of a fucking boycott?

9853fb No.14915121

>>14915103

>he paid $40 for dsfix

lol


41f63d No.14915138

>>14915121

DSR brought the issue to the front of my mind again, but it's been bothering me for a long time, at least as long as remasters got popularized last gen. Back then the same retards were complaining that they weren't "real remasters" because the games looked the same, when that's the entire fucking point (to take an existing game and make it render at a higher resolution on modern hardware). It also pisses me off that people call the Crash and Spyro remakes remasters when they are very clearly not. And it's something that's unique only to the gaming industry, everyone else in every other industry understands this difference perfectly.


31324b No.14915153

This literally never happens. People hate remasters because they are lazy and superfluous.


835ba7 No.14915160

>REEEEEEEEEE WHY DIDN'T YOU REBUILD IT FROM SCRATCH WITH A NEW ENGINE AND NEW CHARACTER MODELS AND ASSETS

No one says this, and those kind of ports are preferable to ones that pretend just to be remastered versions of the games but have all kinds of issues like Silent Hill HD collection or the ps3 Shadows of the Colossus remake.

The only thing that makes me REEEEEEEEEEEE about the rebuilt ones is when people say it plays just like the original game when it never does, not once.


4f456d No.14915164

>>14915153

The music industry is so cucked that remasters make the music significantly worse because they compress the shit out of it.


5f298a No.14915182

!great thread


98a5bb No.14915214

File: 88f00e75440a0cc⋯.png (450.1 KB, 726x611, 726:611, megushrug.png)

>game gets a new port

>has whole new bunch of bugs

>ruins things that are fun from the old version

>runs worse than the old version

>barely fixes the old problems

>call it remastered and retards eat it up

At least make a lol thread so people can shitpost about other stuff next time. Also,

>book gets a new edition

That's not hard since it's just taking text and editing it a little

>music gets a new album

>being ok with shitty remixes that ruin the original feel of the song

Are you one of those fags who listen to techno versions of cuphead ost?

>film people getting angry that a movie is touched

That's because all they need to do is make a higher resolution, not edit out scenes that were deemed "bad" by some idiot. Do you just want to bait or do you really hate that consumers have expectations?


4f456d No.14915301

File: d79f84e248e5377⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 51.86 KB, 705x607, 705:607, d79f84e248e5377f0a1ef30bff….jpg)

>>14915214

>book gets a new edition

>That's not hard since it's just taking text and editing it a little

Or just change the chapters around, in some cases making the edition more confusing, if it's a text book which most dipshits don't pirate and they go for +$100.

>film people getting angry that a movie is touched

>That's because all they need to do is make a higher resolution, not edit out scenes that were deemed "bad" by some idiot. Do you just want to bait or do you really hate that consumers have expectations?

They also fuck up the cropping so shit that is suppose to be off screen appears in the shot.

If you think about it, video games is the least cucked out of all the mediums.


6dba02 No.14916536

>>14915153

This. Never buy anything released a second time.


c2b909 No.14916550

File: b2010d7afa5f481⋯.jpg (93.77 KB, 345x396, 115:132, 1517025029656.jpg)

>first version of a game is full of bugs

>including one that can corrupt savefiles

>there's entire stats that are bugged and do nothing

>people insist this is the only good version just because the updated version has worse music and a new script


9853fb No.14916579

>>14915138

The problem with DSR is that isn't just a straight resolution/framerate increase. People would be far less pissed if that was the case. Instead, they introduced an absolute fuckton of new bugs, made some really terrible and unwanted PVP gameplay changes (phantom estus, weapon matchmaking implemented in the most half-assed and broken way possible), removed the cube mapping which makes everything look like plastic, shit up the textures with some "hd minecraft" looking bullshit, added an anti-cheat that not only is infinitely less effective than pvpwatchdog, but prevents the game from being moddable.

All in all, it's a downgrade, which is why it's getting royally shit on by the community, and people are mass refunding it.


c824e8 No.14916584

Hello reddit, who told you about our humble Filipino clay-spinning forum?


e67e16 No.14916599

>game gets remastered

>it gets censored because of the morals of today are different now

Checkmate, OP.


0008e9 No.14916604

>>14915103

>game gets remastered

>REEEEEEEEEE WHY DIDN'T YOU REBUILD IT FROM SCRATCH WITH A NEW ENGINE AND NEW CHARACTER MODELS AND ASSETS

How can a post be this wrong?


dce3ea No.14916632

>old-as-fuck building gets remodeled

>doesn't use any modern construction technologies that could help keep it from falling apart


f85956 No.14916637

>why are GAMERS so ENTITLED UGH

shit thread


10eab3 No.14916703

File: 63e75f57af0dea6⋯.jpg (55.09 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 69a4edbe0ef70e48fd487e74cf….jpg)

Probably because authors, film makers, and musicians can't patch their work as easily as a game developer can. Yet developers have this wonderful tool by which to fix their games, and they'd still rather charge you full retail price for shit that could easily be fixed post-sale. Game publishers themselves haven't helped the confusion by hyping the retail-patches up as a new and discrete release in order to maximize sales from existing customers. Very few will do what, I think, THQ Nordic did by providing copies of the remaster for free to anyone who either has physical proof of purchase or has the game registered through a recognized digital distributor (such as Steam or GOG).

Bethesda only did it for Skyrim, because they don't really factor into their future mod monetization scheme from a consumer standpoint. They're interested in selling mods to console kids, and since you can't make mods on a console, they need to get as many copies of the game (and the Creation Kit) into PC users hands as possible in order to cultivate mods for the remaster that can be bought (or stolen) and sold on Bethesda's service. They weren't being nice. They're just giving production tools to a free labor source.

They could have easily worked with Sony and Microsoft to check people's PS3 and 360 purchase history for those who had bought a copy of Skyrim digitally and offered the game to them for free - but nope. There's nothing to be gained by doing that except for goodwill, which they don't need because they have popular brands and the retards who buy into them.

Why do you think Fallout 4 VR goes for full retail price on PC, despite being little more than a mod itself. Because consoles can barely run FO4 as it is, and runs even worse with mods - they can't handle both mods and VR - so they don't need the PC crowd to create mods for them. Hence, now the PC crowd has to pay up too.

Just watching Bethesda's pattern of behavior, you can almost hear the actual clink of shekels and greedy hand rubbing if you listen close enough.


a56514 No.14916798

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>>14915103

Because casuals are casuals. They get confused when shit is changed.


abeb47 No.14916813

That's about the stupidest false equivalency I've ever heard. Books don't get "remastered" or "remade," for one. For two, if they did, then the analogous comparison would be using new technology to improve the physical condition of the book, not changing the goddamned content. Or I guess we should still have all of our books written on vellum by poorly trained monks in monasteries who don't actually know how to read and instead just copy the shapes they see?


10eab3 No.14916825

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>>14916813

>Books don't get "remastered" or "remade,"

Except they do, it's just not as frequent because people don't read - and if they do read, it's modern trash like James Patterson, Stephen King, or girl-porn like Twilight and 50 Shades of Rape Fantasy.


0130a1 No.14916897

>>14916825

Aren't Shakespeare plays meant to be watched, not read?

>yolo juliet

Somebody post the caps.


351b43 No.14916943

File: 75e2417d97351a3⋯.mp4 (2.95 MB, 400x300, 4:3, Great thread.mp4)

>>14915103

>>14915182


58046f No.14916964

File: 656c1fe60168f38⋯.png (105.75 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 1344080259423.png)

Videogames are vastly different due to the sheer amount of things that can go wrong thanks to it being an interactive medium. Albums don't have to worry about the instruments randomly fucking up in the middle of a song because that doesn't fucking happen, but glitches in video games DO happen.

So the standard for a remaster of a video game is vastly different than the standards for that of film, music, etc. Quit being retarded and trying to apply the same set of principles to thing that are completely fucking different. It's a false equivalency fallacy, and makes you look like a shill for companies who lazily "remaster" shit by just re-packaging it and throwing it to us.


becd0b No.14917074

>>14915103

In the off chance you are actually here to discuss shit, here's the deal.

Books, albums, films and, what the hell, let's throw paintings in there, only get recognition if they're either pretty close to flawless, or their flaws make them endearing. In either case, the people who love them do so exactly as they are.

Video games, on the other hand, are inherently modular. No matter how fucking perfect a vidya is, it can always be improved, or added to, without fucking with its balance. That's provided the new content/tweak isn't completely retarded of course, but who would say no to Dante from the Devil May Cry series™ being added to SMT3? Nobody said no to that.

And then you get to Dark Souls, the obvious reason why you're mad about people's complaints. Dark Souls 1 was perfectible. It could have been improved on. Instead of improvement, we got DsFix and improved multiplayer capability, that'll be 40 bucks please. You've got essentially the same game, again. They could have at least tried to improve it, and they did not. It's not a loving re-release, it's a cash grab. And a switch port.


fa25f8 No.14917088

>>14916825

>Side by side with original text

How to do it properly

>YOLO Juliet

How to piss off half the potential buyers


8df9cb No.14917128

>>14915138

I dont understand why people turned a mainly single player game with some griefing/coop online into some kind of serious pvp game that it wasn't meant to be.


91a3fb No.14917140

>>14915103

>might have a new introduction or some fixed errors/typos, but everyone expects it to be the same book

What moron willingly buys the same book? The only time I did that was for (((college))).


52de1c No.14917154

>>14917140

What morom willingly buys the same game?


f85956 No.14917186

>>14917154

OP


8a081c No.14917514

Remaster is the key word.

Don't call it a remake if it's a remaster.

And don't call it a remaster if it's just a port.


9b4590 No.14917529

>>14915160

>No one says this,

Dark Souls Remastered


8a081c No.14917535

>>14917529

That's more a case of "how did you manage to make it uglier?"


a6773b No.14917663

File: b8ae6abb1d0798d⋯.png (274.46 KB, 543x800, 543:800, DMC4Dante.png)

Because video games is interactive media. You don't put in effort to read a book or to watch a film, but you do put in effort in beating a video game (otherwise it's not a game, ban vns btw).

So yeah, if game gets re-released it's only natural to expect the improvements in the single most important part of it - the gameplay.


2c4d42 No.14917881

>Some games get remastered, fixed, tweaked and even add new content for existing owners for FREE

>The ones that are priced are lazy rextextures and ports that don't add anything new, fix anything substantial

Can you see the problem here?


41f63d No.14918078

>>14917074

>You've got essentially the same game, again.

Yes, that is what a remaster is.


41f63d No.14918088

>>14917128

You can thank mustards and Microshits for that. They can only comprehend games as dick measuring tools, so they turn every game they're given into that.


91c062 No.14918297

>Dark Souls Demastered


4c6374 No.14918631

>>14918088

>implying sonybronies are any better

The real reason is simply that the series got popular, so it attracted a lot more retards. There was/is fight club faggotry on the console versions as well.


5620d3 No.14918789

File: 795cf11a23592c9⋯.jpg (23.19 KB, 400x352, 25:22, 795cf11a23592c99b176b83647….jpg)

>fromsoft cucks are still assmad that no one wants their shit


9853fb No.14918804

>>14918088

Is this really the hill you want to die on?


d0052c No.14918837

>remaster the game

>make it worse in every way except performance in one area

You're right, it's just like a remastered album.


3fc9a0 No.14920363

>>14916550

remastered fans confirmed to level resistance



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