06d16c No.14914806
Have you ever really wanted to like a game but just fucking couldn't? Not in a way that you were forcing yourself to play something you disslike for the sake of playing it, but forcing yourself to play a quality game that you can see why people like it, you can even understand the appeal but it's either not for you or there are too many annoying things for you to play it?
For me that game as for now is Baldur's Gate, I'm still trying to beat it, currently exploring the locations before entering Baldur's Gate proper and although I actually kind of like the gameplay and I can appreciate the work put into this game, at some times this is just a really fucking boring game for me. There doesn't seem to be that much to do, and when there is, it's over before it even started. The events that you come across in the locations are very interesting but just plainly too short for me to get too interested in. I still want to beat the game even for the sake of playing Baldur's Gate 2, but it's kind of taxing in a way. I'm having some degree of fun, but it's still very tiring to play.
Do you have any of those games /v/?
a9bc81 No.14914853
I feel the same way, and also about the first Icewind Dale.
I just cannot fucking stomach the 2e ADnD rule set, especially in it's video game adaptations.
5e21b9 No.14914861
Yes. Morrowind. I do enjoy the occasional lore thread here and would like to experience the game for myself, but the gameplay is just insufferable.
b64bdd No.14915129
>>14914806
It's exactly the same with me, I started over 3 times but couldn't even reach baldur's gate, haven't played it for half a year now.
>>14914861
I loved Morrowind, I played a Telvanni high elf mage and finished pretty much every quest there was. Traveling didn't bother at all once I figured out high magnitude jump + low magnitude slowfall combo and I loved the fact that your character really improves rather than enemies actually leveling up faster than you like in later TES games.
Also Gothic was a game I tried to like but I couldn't quite figure out the game mechanics even after many hours and the difficulty went over my head soon enough.
52210b No.14915161
>>14915129
Gothic has skill based combat and no respawns, so resources are limited all around and you can't just grind your problems away. This is something you really don't see in action RPGs, so it definitely drives the less skilled players away from the beginning. Shame too, since at its core the combat isn't difficult, you just need to have some rhythm.
326c33 No.14915190
>>14914861
boots of blinding speed + 100% resist magic 1sec spell + soultrap glitch unlocks the entire game world. otherwise it's like walking through knee-deep swamp water for the entire game, can't run from anything and it takes hours to get anywhere.
0b116a No.14915203
>>14914806
>Have you ever really wanted to like a game but just fucking couldn't?
I am in denial about Truck Simulators. I like everything about those games, but not the experience of their boring gameplay.
a1bc92 No.14915382
Dustforce and Hollow Knight are a couple of mine
>>14914806
I feel like I overcame the boredom in this game by ramping up the game speed and always having a 'haste' effect of some kind active to keep the pacing up.
f45e8f No.14915410
>>14914806
same for me, although people are saying it gets better when youre actually 3/4 into the game's story and that BG2 is the better one.
i hate the dialogue choices after gorion's death. nothing from all the choices links to candlekeep or gorion. for example, when you get to the large tavern near cloakwood youre asked why you want to do the quest and the choices are:
>adventuring
>smartass dialogue
>good goy dialogue that doesnt link to gorion
the mc just lost a father and were given these choices kek. the only time i get to hear gorion after that is when khalid has a voiced quote that says "gorion would be proud" other than that, the game is basically telling me to forget avenging gorion and just do a series of quests wanted by jaheira and khalid and go on from there.
ce1cb6 No.14915644
BG1 is super slow because level 1 D&D 2e. It also does not have NPC banter to fill in the gaps between the story banter. There's a reason people replay BG2 and not BG1, and it's because BG1 is only average.
IWD1 also suffers from the same problem of low level D&D 2e, and this time there's no NPC banter at all plus the story is boring. IWD2 is great, however. 3e > 2e
bc80c7 No.14915689
I can't get into Fallout. I can tell it's a good game but I just don't fucking like it. I've tried the original and NV on multiple occasions and can never get more than 5-6 hours into it.
>>14914806
There's a reason BG2 is the one people love and remember. BG1 is honestly fairly boring and very slow, and made worse by the low-level D&D combat. I've started it more times than I can remember but only actually finished it once.
Stil I'd recommend powering through because BG2 is much better.
f45e8f No.14915769
>>14915689
cant i just skip bg1 if i just finished the bandit camp?
bc80c7 No.14916081
>>14915769
I guess. It really depends on how interested you are in seeing the other parts of the game. I still would say you should finish it at least once.
56d24b No.14916120
>>14915410
>>14915689
The problem is how rear-loaded the plot is. The first half of the game is walking about in the forest, getting confused with area transitions and doing contrived, barely-related shit while trying not to lose a party member to a crit or ghast stun, and then when it starts to pick up is the same moment you get city access and there's a billion more sidequests to waste the momentum on.
ce1cb6 No.14916124
>>14915769
If you ignore all the sidequests I think you'll make it. You're about to hit the worst part of the game (Cloakwood Forest). Hug the perimeter of the map and exit the forest ASAP.
56d24b No.14916137
>>14916124
And you've just reminded me of the fucking spiders. Why is it that every low-level D&D game is full of effectively instant death shit that you don't have the resources to deal with and have to gamble with saves, and then you get given solutions to later on when your saves are better so you don't need the solutions?
836942 No.14916205
Dragon Age. Such a flawed a game. Well, I really like isometric RPGs like it, so I still got some enjoyment out of the game.
ce1cb6 No.14916210
>>14916137
Don't forget the basilisks.
bc80c7 No.14916264
>>14916210
>Not casting protection from petrification
Git gud. Random encounters with half-ogres when you're still at level one is the real bullshit.
03edfa No.14916361
>>14915161
I had 0 problems with combat, all my problems were caused by incredibly low damage output at the beginning of the game and overpowered PC at the end. I would die to some random trash because I failed to dodge it's 1000th attack since it takes forever to kill it with a damage output of a plastic spork or oneshot the most powerful enemies at the end. Neither of those is enjoyable and the combat itself is plain as fuck.
>>14916205
There's a mod called Flash's Creature Rescale or something like that, makes difficulty real tight
52210b No.14916546
That's not an issue in Gothic or vanilla Gothic 2, but that's definitely how it goes down in NotR.
ea9cf8 No.14916697
>>14915129
>>14914806
>>14915410
>>14915644
>>14915689
You know oddly enough I'm the opposite, I played through BG1 and had a blast, I loved it, but couldn't find myself to carry on with BG 2 for some reason
79a7b9 No.14916712
>>14914853
>I just cannot fucking stomach the 2e ADnD rule set, especially in it's video game adaptations.
2e was the last good edition of D&D. Then (((Wizards of the Coast))) got their hands on it.
5a5e74 No.14916725
Mine is pic related. My buddies fucking loved this game and lord have I tried but there's nothing about this game that is fun to me. At all. I don't quite understand it either because Chrono Trigger is one of my all-time favorite games and this game seems to be in the same vein, so I don't know what it is that draws me to Trigger but repels me from Mana.
>>14915689
>I've tried the original and NV
wait a sec m8, you talking about Fallout or Fallout 3?
52210b No.14916741
>>14916725
Shit art, shit character design, shit music, shit story, shit combat. Everything about it is shitty and primitive, while Chrono Trigger is insanely refined by any measure.
486975 No.14916745
>>14916697
BG1 is more akin to classic fantasy games, while BG2 is grim dark story with some marry sue characters and hollywood script.
986115 No.14916751
>>14916725
I loved Mana as a kid when it first came out but I tried replaying it recently and it wouldn't click with me.
For one thing, the way the camera scrolls only when you're right at the edge of the screen, making it nigh impossible to see what's coming, what super fucking frustrating.
The music was good but I don't have much nostalgia for the OST, since I was listening to my brother's CD collection over the top of the game at the time (a lot of Pet Shop Boys), and holy shit, are the hitboxes fucking wonky in that game.
It was 10/10 for me as a kid, but now it's barely passing grade.
And imagine my fucking surprise when SE not only remastered it but kept everything wrong and made other things worse. The OST sounds like wet fart and the scrolling issues are still there and the combat is still wonky as fuck.
Enix's Soul Blazer series was a way better ARPG on the SNES.
22361f No.14916752
Champions of Norath is the better PS2 diablo port.
80ed97 No.14916898
>>14916745
Wat
How is BG2 even grim dark?
2653c7 No.14918097
Kind of. Clearly it's a masterpiece, and I loved the first few missions, but the "magic missions" put me off. When shit started teleporting me around I just gave up. Not what I signed up for…though I might finish it one time (but for now, Blood Money it is).
2653c7 No.14918099
>>14918097
of course image disappeared
4a279a No.14918110
>>14916898
>How is BG2 even grim dark?
the game opens up with you and your party being tortured, the comic relief retard barbarian becomes angsty and your godmother starts hitting on you after the death of her husband.
4a279a No.14918116
>>14916361
>I would die to some random trash because I failed to dodge it's 1000th attack since it takes forever to kill it
If some "random trash" is taking you too long to kill it means you aren't supposed to be there at your level and gear.
For someone who likes Morrowind you sure sound like Skyrim retard.
bc80c7 No.14918365
>>14916725
>Fallout or Fallout 3?
Fallout, you dong. I seem to lose steam around the Hub, which isn't even very far into the game.
You just reminded me that there are people who think Final Fantasy started at 7
1506ea No.14918415
>>14918365
Speaking of Final Fantasy, FF7 is the only one of the single player games, pre-13, that I haven't completed
Disc 2's a motivationless mess
36686e No.14918427
>>14918365
I managed to reach junktown and accidentally shot the sheriff guy during the mission where you have to spy on the fat fuck
I ragequitted like a little bitch and never picked it up again
656668 No.14918430
>>14915190
t. retard who didn't take steed, raise speed, or learn magic.
656668 No.14918439
>>14914853
sorry, but 2e was the best ed of ADD everything else is cancer
1506ea No.14918450
>>14918439
>thac0
>baatezu
>"no playtesting" mandate from that bitch Lorraine
>best
9ef94b No.14918468
>>14918365
But anon, Final Fantasy did start and end with 7.
473a21 No.14918558
I went in wanting to like Pillars of Eternity. I had some similar problems as OP with Baldur's Gate but overall it was ok. Pillars of Eternity is just booooring and uninteresting as fuck. Everyone seems to have a metric fuckton of expositional dialogue about the world and themselves, which can be handled well or like this. It's just hard to want to keep playing the game when you're expected to read full length essays about it before getting hooked by it. Everyone wants to waste half an hour of your time by telling their personal backstories, the culture and history of their species and about their likes and dislikes. Then there is the hamfisted way of getting everyone to talk about the same important recent historical happening all the time. Not to mention the loading screens fucking everywhere. Half of the game is dialogue and the other half is loading screens. There is also something offputting about showing kickstarter shit into the game especially the characters whose "backstories" you could read but that would have no bearing on the game whatsoever.
I don't really have problems with text walls if I'm into the world and interested. Planescape: Torment is one of my all time favorites because the world and the characters are interesting.
7521af No.14918581
>>14918558
after the city i just quit with the side quests and finished the game lol. at least theres voice overs in poe; tide of numenara is just wewladboring, imagine poe's dull and boring wall of texts without voiceovers. even the main story narrator doesnt have a voiced dialogue
52210b No.14918599
>>14918468
But Tactics is the best FF game by far.
be5998 No.14918686
>>14918430
>having to minmax your stats just to make the game playable
Lol
be5998 No.14918711
Morrowind
Fallout 1 and 2
I'd also say DMC games and MGS games, but the problem is that they're just shit games that I see no redeemable qualities of. At least morrowind and fallout have things I can appreciate, even if it's not enough to make up for the rest of the boring shit in those games. DMC and MGS are the most overrated piles of shit people around here ever post about.
04fdea No.14918734
>>14915769
Kek, ok i got fooled.
bc80c7 No.14918939
>>14918581
Do you have no attention span? Lack of voice acting does not make an RPG boring, bad writing does that. I like the partial style that the infinity engine games used where important parts are voiced, but I see no reason to fully voice and RPG because all it does is limit the writing. I like reading, as long as the writing is good.
52210b No.14919048
>>14918711
I get morrowind, since the stat leveling system is dogshit and the combat feels terrible until you've capped your preferred combat skill, but the only reason someone would dislike Fallout 1/2 would be if they just hate that entire genre, as they're beacons of good cRPG design.
473a21 No.14919062
>>14918939
I actually prefer walls of text not to be voice acted because I read a lot faster than they speak and it slows down the dialogue quite a bit. The writing isn't very good though. In some games I'm very excited when a party member wants to speak to me because they're interesting and I actually care about them. In Pillars I see them wanting to speak to me and I was annoyed because as much as I wanted to get into it, I couldn't. It felt like they were just rushed and going "Oh look at me I am an interesting character in an interesting world, do you want to hear my life story now that we've traveled together for 1 day and killed a spider?" A good story and characters unravel slowly and organically, but in this game it's just constantly stopping to force massive amounts of (uninteresting and unoriginal) exposition down your throat.
>>14919048
My main gripe with the original fallouts is that the combat can be excruciatingly slow if there are multiple enemies.
daacc1 No.14919112
>>14914806
Only good thing about BG1 is the combat with Swordcoast Stratagems installed, and that makes mage battles a bit tedious.
>>14914861
Do you dislike the slow pace or the dice based combat? If it's the combat, just pick a skill and skill it up a bit on mudcrabs. Decent stats and a skill above 40 will do fine in combat early if you keep your fatigue up and your weapon repaired. I'd also recommend against making a pure caster build as a new player.
>>14915689
Fallout is an exploration/dialogue game whereas NV is far more combat oriented.
>>14915769
Go ahead. Here's the story spoiler if you want to be lazy: Sarevok is your brother, son of Bhaal. He's trying to become the next god of murder by killing other Bhaalspawns and by being a pure fucking badass. You kill him. The end.
>>14916137
Every D&D RPG does this. NWN2 sends you to kill orcs at some point and the reward for killing every orc is an axe that helps you kill orcs. You never encounter orcs again after receiving said axe.
>>14916205
Try the Combat Tweaks mod.
>>14918599
This.
>>14919062
Voice acting is usually uneven across the entire game too. You have your companions with decent voice actors doing a decent job and maybe a villain or two doing well. But then every peasant sounds like the voice director gave a hobo 5$ to say a few lines and cheapens the whole experience. I'd rather have the BG2/PST approach, where pretty much every line is well delivered than an immersion breaking shitfest.
6ec4a4 No.14919164
I felt this way about Alien Isolation, I recognized all the good work that went into the game and not making it a walking simulator, the AI being unscripted and having no fixed patrol routes for most of the game, a simple save system that gives you cicles of tension and relief, being able to make enemies kill each other, etc. but something about the game just didn't work for me and I can't quite put my finger on why I disliked it.
52210b No.14919167
>>14919062
>the combat can be excruciatingly slow if there are multiple enemies
Anon there is an option built right into the game that makes combat fast as fuck if you want it to be.
957eb8 No.14919168
Baldur's Gate does get a bit tedious as soon as your characters aren't shittily equipped 1hp wonders anymore. Mapping yet another generic wilderness area is boring, but every time I've played this game, my autism has carried me through. You could try installing BG1 NPC Project for some dialogue for party members.
I suppose my tolerance for the tedious parts is what helped me enjoy the good parts of Morrowind.
ce1cb6 No.14920405
>>14918711
When people talk about DMC, they really just mean 3.
>>14919167
The only problem that still happens is old people who have ungodly AP for movement, so they do their cripple old man walk 200ft. Necropolis is agonizing if the whole town hates you, even with the combat speed set to fastest. Same with Fallout 2 and San Fancisco.
>>14919168
>You could try installing BG1 NPC Project for some dialogue for party members.
It does help. I think they did a good job getting their personalities accurate. I wouldn't use the NPC Music addon, though, it just messes with the real music because sometimes they both play at the same time.
da1176 No.14920982
JA2, can't stand the color palette and setting.
fbc7c7 No.14921011
>>14918430
>steed
That's a funny way of spelling The Lady
ce8ca2 No.14921167
The way to play Baldur's Gate is to go solo mage/thief and play like a ninja
d4bf20 No.14921274
>>14915644
IWD1 is fine though, you level up quite quickly in it since it's a 1->20 or so game. It has real dungeons and shit going on early, the skeleton tombs and Dragon's Eye are goo. BG1 is slow as hell to get anything good since it's all a 1->7 game, you spend hours lawnmowing maps of shitty kobolds only to finally enter a dungeon of…kobolds. By the time you are level 3 or 4 in BG1 tediously wading through kobolds you are level 6 or 7 in IWD killing magical snakemen and demons.
daacc1 No.14921323
>>14921274
IWD1 also throws magical gear and exp at you fast and furious. It helps makes the lower lvls less tedious.
da1225 No.14921350
>>14914861
Filthy casual scum
ce1cb6 No.14921495
>>14921274
IWD1 didn't really grab me. I didn't care about the story at all, so I had no motivation for my actions. I can't recall exactly, but I think IWD1 is missing a lot of spells compared to BG2. Higher level Cleric spells in particular, so leveling up doesn't have as much of a reward.
bc80c7 No.14921553
>>14921495
Yeah, IWD is really more focused on the dungeon crawling and doesn't have much of a story. I like it overall but it can get a bit boring, it could use something to break up the pure combat.
One thing it has over BG is bards, they don't suck in IWD.
d4bf20 No.14921586
>>14921495
IWD lets you create your whole party, so you've only yourself to blame if you have a bunch of boring classes.
Clerics in particular should be Ranger/Cleric in all IE-based games other than IWD2, since this effectively lets you cast from the Druid's spell book with your Cleric.
fa2c01 No.14922913
>>14918558
To each his own.
I never got far into Planescape Torment. the setting does nothing for me.
I played it even shorther than I played PoE (which I also didn't finish)
c79656 No.14922924
>>14921350
This. If you think that Morrowind is slow then you have never fucking played it to completion
fa2c01 No.14922927
Regarding BG2.
The Holy Avenger class/mod - it's the epitome of Deus vulting and smiting
http://www.shsforums.net/topic/42248-holy-avenger-kit-extra/
8c3ea0 No.14922948
>>14915129
>It's exactly the same with me, I started over 3 times but couldn't even reach baldur's gate, haven't played it for half a year now.
Honestly that's the point where BG1 falls apart anyway. By the time you reach the city you've explored pretty much everywhere else, so all you have left are some city-interior quests which kind of suck and the main quest
042db8 No.14923433
>>14918939
>Do you have no attention span? Lack of voice acting does not make an RPG boring
it does, it just makes a modern game effortless in a bad way. even the 1st baldurs gate had voiced narrators
3dbad7 No.14931261
>>14914861
Pretty much this. No amount of lore or atmosphere can make up for fundamentally boring gameplay and a shitty empty world.
e90c19 No.14942690
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e8f350 No.14977090
Pic related. It's not nearly as difficult or complex as the memes make it out to be, is dogshit to look at, and the novelty of the detailed descriptions wears off two fortresses in. It's just… boring.
ca8d0e No.14977099
>>14914861
its kind of a walking simulator after awhile.
I'm gonna have to say the Mechwarrior series. I love Mechs, but the controls are fucking awful and out of balance.
ca8d0e No.14977106
Fallout 2, I just can't. 1 is great, so is 3 (fuck you) and NV. that's it.
864b79 No.14977112
Baldurs Gate 1 is shit, skip it and play BG2.
52210b No.14977180
>>14977106
>pretends to like 1 while claiming he hates 2 despite 2 just being a bigger 1
>he also loves 3
Heh.
c7d3f6 No.14977665
I can't finish The Secret of Monkey Island 2 because I'm too dumb to understand the puzzles in that game. I needed a guide for the first one and at a certain point it became more of a tasks list than a game.
In fact I'm likely to never finish the adventure games on my Steam library (and the ones on my ScummVM) because I'm too dumb and the puzzles are hard to figure out. I know that's the fun of it but if I was in the game world there would be 100 more practical answers I'd try first. Plus none of them make it apparent what I can click on so 90% of the game is moving the mouse across every screen.
I also can never even start FF8. I saw my siblings play it as a kid and it was cool and immersive. I try it as an adult and fail on the first boss because there's no in-game tutorial and I don't feel like reading a thousand-page GameFAQs guide just to get through an old grainy game.
I suck at Starcraft and am struggling to complete the Protoss campaign. Online multiplayer sucks because the custom games are all impossible and I've lost every one-on-one battle ever. These fags had 20 years to practice and I've had maybe 6 months.
I can never play VN's because the illusion is immediately broken when a girl in that game expresses interest toward me. I know I'm unlovable and ugly, stop tormenting me with false hope.
Overall all video games have lost their appeal. I'm approaching the median age for gaming and it no longer gives me joy. Come to think about it, neither does anything else.
588051 No.14989231
There's something… off about the Donkey Kong Country series.
I've tried the SNES games, got halfway through Dick Freeze, and even unlocked Mirror World in DKCR, but I barely had any fun doing so.
Jungle Beat is good shit, though.
4f6274 No.14989878
>>14916725
Sprite grinding honestly kills this game for me, especially when you get them one after another and they each start at one. It really gets tiring killing mobs in the wind forest for a gorrilion hours