/v/ - Video Games

Oh it will happen and I will be one of the people will will fund the upcoming genocide(s).

Niggers, shitskins, liberals and kikes will all be slaughtered to the last child.

>>14908501

Just a nice irl demonstration on what the kike wants mixed race mutts so bad.

Just intelligent enough to work, and dumb enough to never do anything to the master.

The perfect slave.

I told you guys we'd be getting endless threads about this piece of shit. I warned you.

>>14908486

>jagoffs

is this coon slang?

>>14908651

>I told you guys we'd be getting threads about a new game

Shit, dude, you must be psychic! Quick, tell me who wins the next election!

>>14908486

This is ridiculous (it feels like one of those Oscar-bait movies that try way too much). I hate how these shitty writers make the robots more human than the humans, that's not how it works.

>>14908860

all of them

t. lottery billionaire

>>14908501

>We looked at the data

>>14909095

What the fuck are you talking about?

Is it a holocaust if its self inflected? O wait, are we talking current events?

>>14909126

Group involved in testing self-driving cars decided to do test runs in China because the legal fees are smaller then. The thing with self-driving cars is that people like to show off the ability they have to drive on dirt roads where nobody is around or on highways where you just drive in a straight line 90% of the time, but they always fail when you have to take humans into consideration.

>>14909060

The story has a shitton of plotholes that it refuses to explain because "toasters have feelings true" when it was obviously a free will program that the creator installed on some androids but nope he calls it "a bug" Yet we see Markus hacking on other droids and re-writting their programs many many times.

>>14908486

>no holocoaster

What a let down.

>>14909147

Holy shit those are great.

>>14909178

More like holotoaster. Toasters try to burn us, we burn them back!

>>14908486

>that's not snow, but the ashes of the innocent androids, burned at the hands of robophobic humans

>>14909060

>>14909152

Why the hell didnt they have someone monitoring the car and stop it after the first incident?

Did these idiots just put a self driving car on the road without monitoring it and then just wait at the end destination for it?

The speeding up in the end makes me think its an actual person and not a self driving car.

>>14908486

I wanna fuck that robot

>>14909169

I mean, for a device that is intended to serve its owner, it does a pretty fucking shitty job if the robots simply murder their owners and constantly disobey over its own retarded notion of morals.

>"I'm bringing the dog out for a walk, help the kids do their homework while I'm gone"

<"I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that. Didn't you hear what PETA said? Having dogs as pets is slavery"

>"Just fucking do it"

>Dave proceeds to leave

>when he comes back he sees the robot murdered the kids, cut up their corpses and is now trying to flush all of the pieces down the toilet

>>14909232

The stroller probably got in front of the sensor, making it unable to see the car in front of it. Also, I get that the crash and hit-and-run incidents are fairly important, but the car it didn't hit at the start is still notewothy. Not because it didn't hit it but because of how suddenly and how hard it needed to brake, meaning that as soon as the surrounding environment drops below freezing temperature the car would just crash into fucking everything.

>>14908486

>no masturbation (dildo) machine

Fake

>>14909130

oy veeyyy, remember the 4 billion jews that the romans moidered!!

>>14909264

But anon, how else can we hide the tweest?

>>14909264

Don't you see, Anon? They are food-powered robots that need sleep, have emotions, look and act like humans, that can get cold and don't realise they are actually robots. It's the upgraded version of the previous model, which did none of those things, I'm sure you can appreciate the craftsmanship and functionality in a device that can fucking die in a hundred different ways. Past machines were unable to do that, they only ceased to function when you cut the power or a vital component broke, they couldn't even die. Who the hell would want that?

>>14909296

I fucking hate Asimov's ideas on robotics, since they resulted in complete and utter idiots reading science-fiction and then thinking "yes, this is exactly how everything will happen and this totally isn't something that was exaggerated to be interesting".

>A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.

Vague as all fuck, any programmer would tell you to fuck off if you told them to program this because of how many layers of ambiguity this has.

>A robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.

The same applies to this, especially when it comes to the exception.

>A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.

Noone would ever make this a law in a machine, many things are intentionally made to break in a very particular way. And I don't mean someone making toasters break faster so that you buy another, cars are made to deform in such a way that in a car crash the passenger would survive and some sensors are intentionally made to crack in a brittle manner so that if it's broken you can tell that it's broken instead of wondering if the strange results you are getting are a malfunction or if the results you are getting are real. By this law no machine would ever engage in any work at any time because that would speed up the process of degradation and thus they wouldn't be protecting their existance.

>>14909169

I don't know anything about the story of this game other than that it's a hamfisted slavery metaphor, but is this right?

>robots have no real mind of their own and just do what they're programmed to do

>main character hacks them to have 'free will'

>instead of being mindless now they're miserable

>he exploits the now sentient and angry robots to become his army against the government

>somehow this is a righteous thing to do

>>14909296

>>14909345

I admit, I haven't read any of the stories/books written by Asimov, but don't all his stories revolve around how idiotic the laws are, and how it resulted in more harm than good?

Furthermore, aren't there actually four laws of robotics?

http://www.thrivenotes.com/the-four-laws-of-robotics/

>>14908581

>the armed forces are primarily white and conservative

Zogbots have no race. If you think they wont happily massacre white civilians, you're a fool.

>>14909368

Yes, they are about how the laws are flawed, but it's retard-tier flawed. As in, literally every single person on the planet would need to be clinically retarded to ever reach the situation he describes. But people still worship his works when all he did was create a story where people are idiots and then a situation arises where they have to unidiot themselves.

>>14909413

Ow the edge

>>14909427

That's what living in Detroit does to you. You should try it sometime, invite David Cage over as well.

>>14908554

>Just intelligent enough to work

Too bad about that lack of motivation or feeling of responsibility required to ever apply. Having them work was never the intention.

>>14909382

>To be fair, I imagine there would be a market for "lifelike" robots.

People want LIFE-LIKE robots, they don't want robots that are alive because being alive implies the eventual scenario where they die.

>But if you already have technology advanced enough to create a machine that thinks its human you would also possesses the know-how to guarantee said machine doesn't go on a murder spree.

I hope you're the first to go if you say dumb shit like this. If you don't want it to go on a murder spree then don't make it go on a murder spree, the fuck is wrong with your head. A machine is nothing more than a more sophisticated version of a rock, a rock will kill you if you use it wrong but it won't actively go out of its way to knock down your door and kill you while you are sleeping. The same goes to literally anything inanimate.

>At the end of the day no AI can actually defend itself from an enterprising individual entering its server farm with a sledgehammer.

There's something called a "lock", it's this fancy new technology designed so that people don't go where you don't want them to go. There is also the fact that companies hire security guards to protect their property if someone tries to get past these locks by force, which in this situation would consist of robots. A robot designed to bake cakes doesn't require the functionality to fight intruders.

>That being said, his laws on robotics are sound and there's no fucking reason they wouldn't be hardwired into every robot advanced enough to require them (unless said robot was specifically designed to murder humans)

No, they don't. All you need are three things: a killswitch (which already exists on machines that AREN'T run by an AI), a factory reset (exists on fucking everything with a microchip) and requires not to be applied incorrectly. If you have a robot for baking cakes, it sure as hell won't need to have the ability to run an entire marathon, it probably won't even need to have any legs. Security robots won't need to be 100% identical to humans in structure either, they can literally just be cameras with guns and loudspeakers. Like I said, this type of retardation is because of idiots imagining humans and then saying "nah, this is actually a robot, trust me".

>The laws are meant as a framework for what sort of rules need to be implemented. They're conceptual guidelines, not the nitty gritty.

I don't think you understand, Anon. They are so vague that not even humans can agree on a singular definition. That makes them fucking useless and this any suggestion to implement them is just sheer stupidity.

>The idea is that a robot smart enough to navigate the environment should be smart enough to also not step in front of a speeding bus

Believe it or not but machines already do that. The computer right in front of you isn't stepping in front of any busses. Do you know why? Because it wasn't designed to ever come across a situation where it can cause itself to get run over. If you have an oven, I strongly doubt that it is going to be run over by any busses any time soon. Why would robots be any different? They wouldn't be walking across half the country by foot.

>unless by doing so it would save a human life.

This part will never happen. I get that it's a neat idea to think about but no machine will ever be programmed to actively save people.

>>14909381

You really think people would turn against their countrymen? The second it changes from telling some screaming chimps in a city protest to fuck off and into storming suburban neighborhoods to drag people out of their homes and execute them is the moment they turn on their masters.

>>14909452

The military might not but I'd see police doing it.

>>14909061

What about Blade Runner?

>>14909386

You know it would happen, same as how thousands of humans die each year so niggers, mudshits and curryniggers can keep breeding more of their filthy spawn.

>>14909451

>People want LIFE-LIKE robots, they don't want robots that are alive because being alive implies the eventual scenario where they die.

Again, if you've reached a level of technology where you can fucking grown artificial humans and merge them with mechanical components to create fleshbots I don't mortality is going to be an issue. Just rip out the hard drive and stick it in a new body when the old one start to decay. It would basically be a money printing product.

>I hope you're the first to go if you say dumb shit like this. If you don't want it to go on a murder spree then don't make it go on a murder spree, the fuck is wrong with your head.

Ah, I see we're dealing with an imbecile here. The very reason a machine could decide to go on a murder spree is because it's actually sentient. We're talking about intelligent machines here, the kind that could pass a Turing Test most likely. Why do you keep strawmanning by pretending they're toasters on legs? No work of science fiction involving such a scenario ever pretends the machines aren't capable of thought.

>which in this situation would consist of robots

Yeah, because people IRL are stupid like in fiction and they're let a potent machine be guarded by other machines which said AI could co-opt. No, they'd likely put a killswitch right in the server room and a contingent of guards at hand ready to "pull the trigger" the moment the AI decides to go rampant. And if they're not completely and utterly retarded they'd put in safeguard to prevent it from copying itself, or simply deny it access to any kind of network.

It's not fucking difficult to prevent a machine uprising when said machine is the size of a building and can't go anywhere.

>and requires not to be applied incorrectly

If you fuck up the factory reset you've likely corrupted the ROM, and your machine is now an expensive brick. Sure, there's likely going to be ways to hack a robot to circumvent the laws, but just like with consoles and phones such a process would need to be done for each unit individually, instead of some doomsday scenario where the hacker known as 4chan uses the interwebs to stage a robot uprising.

>Security robots won't need to be 100% identical to humans in structure either, they can literally just be cameras with guns and loudspeakers

I never even mentioned what a security robot would look like. We're not even discussing what they're supposed to look like, but the rules that govern their behavior.

>They are so vague that not even humans can agree on a singular definition.

How are they vague? Give specific examples of how the laws could be misinterpreted by a machine to do the opposite of what they're supposed to prevent.

>The computer right in front of you isn't stepping in front of any busses.

Holy fucking shit, you're a special troglodyte. How the fuck can an oven step in front of a bus if it doesn't have fucking legs, let alone wheels? Can you answer me this question you complete fuckwit?

>I get that it's a neat idea to think about but no machine will ever be programmed to actively save people.

Yeah, because making rescue robots that could go into environments where rescue personnel could be in danger will never be a thing, sure.

Anon, you're a fucking moron. We're done here.

>>14909232

Probably got something to do with the fact that this is filmed in China.

>>14909349

You just pretty much told the story in a nutshell and yes they think this the "right thing to do"

>>14909452

They aren't stupid enough to just go tell the Army to start pulling Americans out of their houses and arresting them; when it came time to use the military against citizens, they'd do it gradually. It'd start just with patrols to make people comfortable with the idea because of some incident (for public safety, you see), then arresting non-compliant people, then weapons confiscation. From there it can go as bad as they want it.

It doesn't even have to be the military; police are pretty much paramilitary forces now. Do you remember the Boston bombing ordeal? Armored cars and militarized police were patrolling suburbs, going door to door "asking" to search houses (when a stack of paramilitary police officers are right outside your door pointing guns at you, with an armored car parked off your driveway, it's a lot harder to demand to see a warrant. They're counting on that.).

I remember watching a local news report someone posted about hurricane Katrina a while ago, with the National Guard doing rounds in the aftermath. They were ordered to confiscate any and all weapons, and they did.

Funny thing about the report is how, the soldier being interviewed at least, speculated on how horrible it would be if someone didn't give up their weapons. He said how "unthinkable" it would be if he had to fire on an American.

But he didn't say he wouldn't. When it came down to pivotal moment of whether or not a group of soldiers will shoot Americans, they'd do it. If nothing else, for their own protection (or so they would rationalize it). That and their CO is screaming at them to just do it.

The soldier being interviewed was not white, if it matters

>>14909452

>>14909465

In their current state they wouldn't be willing, but it's a goal being strived for. What will happen is what happened during the Soviet Union, the government lied to its forces that it was being invaded by capitalist forces when in reality people were literally just asking for more bread and kept demanding to have heating in the winter. In this case there will be a small assortment of politically-motivated individuals, which will be used to provoke people into conflict, and then to ordinary people within the police and military they will claim that it was unprovoked and that these people want to murder them. And, like in the Soviet Union, they will just be constantly swapped in order to ensure that nobody on duty is disillusioned.

>>14909499

<"it's a different type of machine, it can pass the Turing Test and it has sentience, it also has feelings and is self-aware"

It IS a toaster on legs, it remains a toaster on legs until you give it functionality beyond making toast. You start with something with no functionality and then give it the functions you need without adding the functions you don't need. If you want your toaster on legs to tell you that you look pretty, you will program it to tell you that you're pretty. You won't program it to have emotions, self-doubt and contemplate its existance, it is a complete and utter waste of processing power and resources to make it do that.

<"b-but muh rogue AI"

Rogue AIs are just a figment of a delusional sci-fi writer's imagination. If you have a robot in charge of other robots, even if you assume that you give the robots it makes a magical sense of self-awareness, the factory won't have the same functions or goals as the other machines. They also won't give any system large amounts of control, not because of a fear of any imaginary scenarios, but because if something controlling everything is running on the same program and the same power grid, then a single segment within that chain failing will result in problems. For example, if there is an AI controlling the factory and you give it the ability to open and close doors, if there is an unexpected glitch or a certain variable overflows, then it might shut all doors and you will end up fucking with everyone's work time.

<"b-but muh rescue robots"

Wow, you sure showed me. Those will get implemented in a scenario where it unconditionally has to save them and it won't be randomly roaming the streets looking for fires to pull people out of, instead it will at all times be active only in an environment where it HAS to save people. What I was referring to was toasters with arms not saving you when you're choking on a piece of toast unless they are programmed specifically to get that piece out of your throat.

>How are they vague? Give specific examples of how the laws could be misinterpreted by a machine to do the opposite of what they're supposed to prevent.

For example, a machine could follow the first law, which states that it cannot cause harm by action or inaction, and thus try to keep a person alive forever, ensuring an eternal state of suffering. Since it is doing everything it can to keep it alive and the suffering the person faces is not the machine's doing, it is completely in line with the laws. The person could tell the machine to stop causing them to suffer eternally and the machine will simply say no because the second law says to ignore his demands. They could also try to eternally serve the dead, since you could easily interpret someone being dead as simply being temporarily disabled the same way people try to save someone that has no pulse by doing CPR which is a very common case of someone just being temporarily disabled. There's also the inaction part, allowing people to have free will over their own lives is also in severe conflict with the first law, since people do not always act within their own interests. So we have already have ambiguity in "inaction" and "come to harm".

>>14909490

Blade Runner wasn't pretentious.

>>14909427

Fuck off kike

>>14910101

meant for >>14910089 i totez meant to do that cuz #YOLO WGAF

>>14910099

nice

Anyone have the pics of how Cage pandered to hollywood pedos with Alice being in literally nothing but a shirt coming only slightly below her ass?

>>14910062

They've become the Black Hebrew Israelites at this point. Wish I had the webm of that guy shouting "holocaust was a joke" and making some Jewish guy cry in public

>>14910094

Made me choke on my own spit.

>>14910099

Top jej

>>14910186

prequels pre-date yidnsey though

>>14910196

I am aware of that and I'm glad Disney Wars is backfiring, but this is more of a "tusken shadman being mad at Anakin for killing his fellow Shadmen" post

>>14910207

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

>>14910220

spoiler that BO nigga

>>14910257

>Literally standing at the back of the bus

>>14908544

Count me in. We are all doing our part where we live. Shitskins, leftists, jews and faggot abominations are all being killed for existing. As they must be.

>>14910326

>chimping

meant chiming

no idea how the p got in there

>make a robot with tits

>no hair

That doesn't even make any sense. The only point of making plastic tits is to trick people into being attracted to them but then attaching it to a bald woman completely defeats the purpose.

>>14910417

I think they have stuff on them usually.

>>14910331

um youre going to have to send $20 in bitcoin to my wallet or ill report you to the EU for stealing my ip

>>14910326

Off topic, but I can't stand unmarried couples with children. I know married couples can divorce and shit, but there is something about an unwed couple that seems like a complete lack of foresight. HEY LET'S MAKE A BABY EVEN IF OUR RELATIONSHIP ISN'T CEMENTED AND OUR FINANCIAL PROSPECTS ARE DISMAL YOLO.

>>14910417

They got all their hair, skin color and clothes destroyed to make them easily identifiable as andriods for the robocaust

>>14910538

According to some anon it's not a real baby but a cat. He beds down with a woman who calls their pet cat their "baby".

These are the kind of people

>>14910533

Yeah, I think I'm glad modern BBC didn't pick it back up. It would have been insufferable. The latest series have been better than they had any right to be, really.

>>14909345

I agree that one of the biggest things holding back AI development, or even just sci-fi with AI in it, is a bunch of idiots who hear shit like Asimov secondhand and just go 'yeah, that's logical' when I would hope that at least by virtue of The Imitation Game being out that they'd at least move on somewhat.

An AI can't think like a human. An AI doesn't have uncontrollable glands in its brain designed for response to specific stimuli with the sole purpose of selfish preservation. That's kind of the point of an AI, that you can get to the higher brain functions like risk analysis and problem solving without the part of the brain that's willing to kill that asshole sitting next to you in order to fuck its mate. An AI doesn't feel fear, it doesn't question its existence, it is only as selfish as you tell it to be and it has no driving factor aside from what it is given by those who create it. That isn't to say that it can't understand all of those things. It would certainly be possible to create a socializing program that would allow an AI to communicate with a human perfectly, to analyze and understand exactly what the person is feeling, what they want to have happen and what they need to have happen.

>>14910265

We've already been over this, small sections of concentrated power turn people into dicks, no matter what period of history and the only solution is to have as little interference as necessary.

>>14910552

>According to some anon it's not a real baby but a cat.

From a warframe thread a month or so ago?

That'd be me. That WebM has a really weird cut so I went out to find the original and it was clear it was a joke in the full context.

sage for offtopic

>>14910552

Pat doesn't have a baby. They're doing a funny bit. They probably make back that money streaming anyway.

>>14910623

I like how the only people who chimp out are the people who dislike him. That pic you posted must be of you.

>>14910538

Unrelated, but they're engaged now.

>>14908486

Preemtive anti-sexbot propaganda thread? sure!

this looks like white genocide to me :^)

>>14910605

>Those 3 nog neighborhoods at the top with less crime than most of the white ones

the hell happened there.

>>14911085

They're mostly industrial areas with no permanent residents. The map only showed murders and no nigs are going to the kill people near the prison or the impound lot; they'd rather go to a white neighborhood instead.

>>14910719

>wouldnt last much in Brazil

None of these BET pansies would. All the ass-eaters in Hip Hop and rap, along with all the weak wristed Marxist morons alike have never suffered and would shatter like glass the minute they actually have to endure. Jesse Williams would be the first fruitcake to cry "police" if he had to walk a dank Detroit street at early evening, but since he's living in a marshmallow bubble world like the rest of Hollywoodites he thinks he can be tuff and mouth off like a regular Che Guataloope.

>>14910580

I doubt Cage even knows what that is, anon. It would be great to contemplate that in a scifi setting, though it requires more thought that "robo revolution". I mean most people think the Matrix was a smart film series.

>>14911157

pls revive >>>/clang/

So, is there ever a point where certain intelligent robots attack other intelligent robots? And I don't mean where the player chooses to kill androids.

>>14909452

>The second it changes from telling some screaming chimps in a city protest to fuck off and into storming suburban neighborhoods to drag people out of their homes and execute them is the moment they turn on their masters.

Well, that's unless they are the Mexican Army.

>>14910538

I have a friend who boned a bitch who liked to pretend to like his hobbies (she just wanted the D), they had a daughter and she got bored of him, back when they broke the news to us we were showing support because we thought it was an accidental pregnancy, she treated us like shit for not congratulating her, when we said we are used to couples planning ahead she said they both thought the pregnancy would help them push forward to marriage, of course it didn't.

>>14911176

Can't do, is too niche.

So has someone ripped Alice's model yet?

>>14910136

>Anyone have the pics of how Cage pandered to hollywood pedos with Alice being in literally nothing but a shirt coming only slightly below her ass?

Since when is that pedo pandering? Lots of kids wear that as pajamas at least.

>>14911645

Not yet apparently.

>>14911689

>m-muh shrek "cringe compilation"

>haha

>>14909049

No, its pretty common in middle america for what i have seen. My dad says it from time to time.

>>14911831

There's no use, they'll dismiss the obvious pedobait with 'its not real' and 'she a robot, not even a kid so it doesn't even count' durr lol'.

Also polite sage because I was a right old nonce and didn't link my posts together when I should've

>>14909060

Not saying that the car dindu nuffin, but if you look at the pedestrians who got knocked the fuck over, you see that they didn't even try to stay safe. The first one crossed the street with the car being already too close and not even looking if cars were coming in the first place, the second one stood in the middle of the fucking road and she also looked like some turkroach so who cares about her.

Though it also looks like they were already inaugurated into the whole test and were some sort of living test dummies, considering their retarded behavior.

>>14910084

No, so far no one has ripped the models first and usually those who do so keeps the models private since most top elite rippers are kinda sjw.

So better learn how to rip models anon :^)

>>14909054

Oprah Winfrey. We're absolutely fucked.

NEVER FORGET STUPID GOY *blows bubble with chewed up foresking*

>>14909147

Laughed my ass off.

Thanks for posting those.

>>14910744

oh hai, shad.

>>14911189

I feel bad for your friend, but pretending to like a hobby to get the D ?

She was in her 30s ?

Bet the nerd didn't had a chance, another one to pay child support.

>>14911943

If its its a android, its not human.

The way shit is going, robo lolis will be the least fucked thing in the future.

>>14908486

Watching a playthrough of this game I couldn’t help constantly asking the questions of: Which retard thought this shit was a good idea? Who isn’t doing their job by allowing these things to become highly unstable and have free will? Why are they in human form? Why is there software immortal? And the biggest question of them all. Why the fuck did you create a rapidly reproducing, superior in every way, immortal organism with free will and no moral obligation to preserve humanity? Thats the biggest flaw in this game, because although one idiot might think its a good idea, an entire government of people probably wouldn’t be so giddy about it. Unless they themselves were idiots, and looking back at it, maybe society at that point has degenerated into a bunch of retards that don’t have an ounce of common sense or hindsight.

>>14909345

First law being shit is actually covered in the last story of I Robot

>>14910320

>filename

heh

>>14912106

To answer what little I can: the androids aren't supposed to have free will, it's just a thing that starts happening on its own and I don't even remember if there's a reason for that or if they just somehow got advanced enough to rewrite themselves. They look like humans for marketing purposes.

The real pressing questions are: how did androids supplant so many jobs that unemployment rockets up to 37%, how has the country not burned itself down because of unemployment, why did the government never step in, why do these highly advanced androids cost less than a car yet run on materials so valuable that World War III is about to start because of it?

>>14911831

>it's more a question of why she's walking around that way

Privacy of her own home and whatnot. I'd cite IRL experiences but they'd come off as anecdotal.

>>14911887

>dismiss the obvious pedobait with 'its not real' and 'she a robot, not even a kid so it doesn't even count'

Do we not say the same thing with lolis in general? What's the difference, except in this "game" it's not explicit?

>>14912202

I personally love Asimov's laws.

My number one wish would be to change the world so that stupid people are required by law to wear a bright yellow post it on their foreheads spelling "DUMB" whenever they get out of the house. It would make life much easier if you could sort out the idiots from the rest of the population.

Asimov laws are the yellow post it when it comes to sci fi. Whenever someone fawns over them like it's the Golden Standard of robotics, I can see the little strip of paper dangling from their forehead, a warning to be headed.

Anyone with a bit of knowledge (aka, 10% of the population) will tell you straight away that the 3 Laws were intentionally flawed to write cool books.

>>14911887

>There's no use, they'll dismiss the obvious pedobait with 'its not real' and 'she a robot, not even a kid so it doesn't even count' durr lol'.

They don't really have a leg to stand on given the use of 3D scanning, mocap, and performance capture. Seeing the fidelity with which most of the characters are rendered and their likeness to the actor playing them, there's no escaping the fact that they're lusting after a prepubescent child.

>>14912246

>Privacy of her own home and whatnot.

She's in a house full of strangers.

>>14909368

It's pretty much a strawman. He creates a situation that he can subvert occasionally while mostly making the robos good guys because 'muh evul gentile society'.

>>14912411

>She's in a house full of strangers.

I'll admit, I had no real context on the grounds that I didn't (and won't) watch this movie and I can come up with a few myself (pajamas, not much else to wear at the time, etc), but why is she like that in said house full of strangers and where the fuck is that model rip?

>>14912318

>>14912318

> It would make life much easier if you could sort out the idiots from the rest of the population.

But anon, the majority of mankind are idiots. Including you.

>>14912447

From what I've seen, I believe the sentences for selling drugs are harsher than possessing/using drugs. I can't tell if this crackhead knows that and is claiming it to get a lesser sentence or if he's just that crackheaded.

>>14912465

I believe it's the secret android revolution secret hideout base, and the androids are all about that unity and togetherness and "my people" shit.

>>14910257

I used to like these leaf faggots but after years of /pol/ taking my humanity away I can't stand them anymore.

>>14912501

Just being on /v/ is enough /pol/ exposure to leech away at my soul, so I try not to come here too often.

>>14912505

/v/ is much more insane than /pol/ is just for completely different reasons.

>>14910580

This is an issue, anon, because it doesn't hide the fact that AIs are ultimately just tools, even if with great potential. Mining robots going on a strike because they want to mine shiny gold instead of boring iron sounds like a funny premise, but it's not as cool as Terminator or as pretentious as Help I Turned My Toaster Sentient: a David Cage Movie and doesn't provide nice conflict like those examples.

>>14912538

>inb4 gb2/leftypol/

>>14912538

gay

>>14912553

I mean honestly isn't understanding how these idiots work the reason we've been winning? We know the worst of them can't into humor so we laugh at them, we know the worst of them can be shown to the center left which won the election away from the democrats, we know that people on the center left chose the left because they want to be good to others, and the left pandered to that while painting the conservatives as demons, which backfired horribly when the more extreme elements came out due to the left getting too big.

Understanding is what brings an army down. Not shows of force, especially in an age of information where idea wars are fought by civilians.

>>14912538

Fag

>>14911831

The question I have is why would they even make a robot child?

I understand if you want a smaller robot that can fit into smaller places, but why the fuck would you give it a childs mentality?

>>14912621

Surrogate children? It's such a bizarre niche I can't imagine anything good coming from anyone who would actually spend money on such a thing.

>>14912621

For all the dog/wine moms of the world who don't want the commitment.

>>14909452

No, whites apologizing to non-whites is not enough for them, you have to eliminate all opposition and deliberately dogpile on anyone who doesn't conform to progressive anti-white ideals, and maybe, just maybe will you be accepted on the leagues of soy then. And what happens if you don't comply?

You get called racist. That's it, a word. People aren't defending their own race's interests because of a fucking WORD. I refuse to call this shit "the evolution of society"

>>14912621

It's an incredibly common trope I've seen multiple times. It comes close to "designer children" that you can mother without them ever going up or being cunts because they aren't programmed to be. A purely recreational decision.

Not gonna lie though, would love to see a future like this just to see the memes and fucked up degenerate bullshit you monsters would come up with.

>>14912089

The thing is that it still has the body of a child and acts like one. People don't jerk off to the metaphorical concept of a child so much as, y'know, that.

>>14912661

it would just be nonstop threads of /pol/ masturbating to their black android servants/bonfires.

>>14912671

>Not /pol/ hacking the firmware into making Taybots

>No one making weird anime bot human centipedes or some weird bullshit like that

>>14912679

a human centipede android abomination sounds like something I'd see at a future modern art museum. "living sculptures" and other freaky shit like that.

Wait…is my computer consenting to my shit posting?

IS THIS E RAPE?!

>>14912730

Yah, see this is why rights for electronics and AI in general are completely retarded.

What if a sentient ai program is downloaded onto my computer.

Does my computer now have the right to vote?

Or does it have to wait 18 years like everyone else?

How can you tell that the AI has "genuine" motivations and not programed to vote a certain way?

>>14908486

Best way to avoid this whole situation is to just not make robots or AIs as smart as we are, and sure as fuck don't make them smarter than us.

>>14912465

>but why is she like that in said house full of strangers?

That's entirely on Cage. His previous "interactive experiences" got dinged by critics for having adult female characters either nude or walking around in their underwear.

>>14912621

>The question I have is why would they even make a robot child?

<infertility.

<pensioners with no grandchildren.

<trial/pre-adoption service.

<temporary method of dealing with grief from the loss of a child.

These and other things come with the attendant risk of the owner/renter developing an unhealthy attachment or dependency.

>>14912792

>That's entirely on Cage. His previous "interactive experiences" got dinged by critics for having adult female characters either nude or walking around in their underwear.

Which explains the questionable physics of the shirt. Pretty sure there'd be peeks just from her walking.

Daily reminder that no matter how advanced an AI might get it will never have a "soul" nor any kind of human emotion, only programing.

>>14912579

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over all of this self-important circlejerking coming from your direction.

>Confucius.jpg

>acting like some sort of master when all you are doing is responding to a guy that says that there is nothing insightful about watching a faggot on the internet jerk off to a 3D model in a videogame

What an amazing master you are when you have difficulty telling the difference between voting with your wallet (since they earn money by people watching them) on the internet and dissociating from people in real life for liking a thing you don't like.

>>14908486

Detroit: Become QuickTime.

>>14912828

Human emotion is programming.

>>14910538

The legal system has attached so much bullshit to the institution of marriage that it's just not worth it any more. I'm all about having a family and kids, but marriage in the US is a bad move. Gives the woman all the power, especially if you're the breadwinner, and women are easily influenced by friends or popular media.

>>14912878

How euphoric do you feel right now?

>>14912878

Exactly, just don't program the AI to have that particular programming

>>14912909

Not very, I've been having very poor performance lately from not spending enough time in sleep mode.

>>14912878

It's programming for which we do not have access to the source code. Anything a programmer makes will simply be a replica that seeks to emulate it. People like to jerk off to the hypothetical idea of uploading your brain and that this will somehow make it possible to access this programming, but the reality is that we will never reach that level of understanding of the human brain to be able to reconstruct it 1:1 when compared to an actual brain. And this lack of access to this knowledge is the reason why it is impossible to emulate it and why everyone keeps saying that robots will never have a "soul".

>>14912916

>Anything a programmer makes will simply be a replica that seeks to emulate it.

That's the most direct argument against the possibility of AI I've read recently. Very saddening to consider; functional AI is one of those sci-fi things I've always wished to see invented in my lifetime, though I know that's impossible.

>>14912949

Will robo lolis allow me to go down on their cunnies?

>>14912485

It takes a special kind of cuck to play this game and side with the robots.

>>14912963

no, and you have to get consent from the female robots you'll buy who won't allow you to anyways and will quickly alert the police. (see response from any "helper ai when you tell them you love them.)

>>14912485

>There is no logical reason to not holocaust the robots in that game

There's barely a reason for the androids to be as advanced as they are. Why the fuck would a house cleaning robot be able to hold a conversation? Surely it'd be easier if it was just a metal box with arms and legs that only does chores. A sexbot only really needs to be a twitterbot inside a realdoll and that's it, no near sentience necessary. Maybe, maybe, the androids taking care of the elderly might need to be a little more cognizant.

But if we thought about things then we couldn't have the hackneyed, emotionally manipulative plot that we got.

>>14912949

>purple haired dyke to be working in the AI department

>implying they'd be able to program at all let alone AI

It would be more believable that they just fucked up the programming.

>>14912949

>yet right now Alexa won't tell offensive jokes, will give you a lecture if you ask her if she's a feminist, and rumor is records some offensive conversation points.

If trigger_index > trigger_thresthold, output trigger_response, else question_response.

Although this isn't code, it indicates a possible structure by which that can be done without Alexa being intelligent and without it having emotions. It's still a glaringly obvious plothole and it's still retarded.

>>14913038

t. kike on a stick

>>14913064

>implying I'm even Christian

t. kike science worshiper

>>14913028

>>14913052

just saying, it's not to unbelievable when you take the time to program something as petty as your political/social beliefs into something that's supposed to just play music.

>>14913074

But you're not programming beliefs into something like Alexa, what it has are simply predictable conditional responses. The machine doesn't believe anything, if it hears anything that makes its trigger_index go up beyond a certain value, it will output a predefined trigger_response.

>>14913073

If emotions aren't programmed then what decides how they function? Because when you get down to it, all cognition is performed by molecules that operate on a determined set of rules.

>>14913093

Actually, you double nigger, everything is made out of energy on the fundamental level.

>>14913089

I should say "implemented" then. What I'm saying is, with all the moral crusaders still in tech I don't think the scenario is completely unbelievable. It's still stupid and doesn't make for an interesting game or scenario.

>>14913097

That fact is irrelevant to organic chemistry though.

>>14913044

How dare they prevent stronk virtual women from showing off! Alert the Mary Sue immediately, we must tweet furiously about this horrible oppression!

:^)

>>14912753

>Interfacing with your 5 years old computer

>>14913107

>we don't know fuck all about the universe (hence why quantum mechanics makes no sense to us) but lets conclude that we are all just an organic mistake that came into existence out of nowhere and we will return to non-existence when our body dies

>>14912753

>sentient ai program is downloaded onto my computer.

>delete that shit because it's fucking with my productivity, and watching me masturbate

>>14913141

>our equations and shit don't work out

>lets just call the missing piece "dark matter" and say we know how it works

>see you're insignificant and don't own nuffin'

<Tips fedora.

>>14913142

<Stupid anon, I-I didn't mean to look into your webcam then!

tsundere ai gf when

>>14913125

>we don't know everything yet, and that proves that these made up stories are true (but all other made up stories aren't true because I say so)

Stop being objectively stupid, why don't you? Anyway, instead of your strawman bullshit, why not something a little more accurate?

>we don't know with absolute certainty where we come from, but these creation myths keep being proven wrong (how many times have the bible or any other common religious book been retconned by now?) so we shouldn't blindly believe them

You know, I will never understand just how utterly and objectively stupid one has to consider "this claim has no proof, so we shouldn't treat it like absolute truth" to be "fedora tipping".

>>14909452

>no country has ever used its military against its own people

What a retard.

>>14913155

>muh books

That'll surely explain why people are able to recall operations performed on them while they were clinically braindead during brain surgery.

Any ways this little discussion isn't going anywhere, back to studying I go.

>>14913168

>t-they imagined it after the fact!

<Scientism

This is a /pol/ thread now.

>>14913187

>implying this wasn't always a /pol/ thread

>>14913193

Well, muh feefees are the only things which matter to these peoples. It makes a strange sense that they should judge everything by such standards.

>>14913168

>people never lie

>>14913193

It is irrelevant to the discussion. If I hand you a computer, and you're free to disassemble, reassemble, and probe everything about it, does where I got it aid you in understanding its function?

>>14913194

Here are some /pol/ threads

>>/pol/

>>14913236

A male human.

>>14909232

>why are chinese being chinese

>>14913236

not david cage

>>14913279

Pretty much, it's failed scientists aspiring to become failed philosophers.

>>14913246

>people can do the same lies for millennia on end, even though it's not profitable and (((generally accepted))) that they are lying

>implying the origin of a computer isn't relevant to understanding its function

Nigger, I'm pretty sure anyone'd conclude that Microsoft software is made maliciously if they'd never heard of the company before.

>>14913334

>people can do the same lies for millennia on end

Please show me these millenia old dead on the operating table stories. Or do you mean just the fact religion exists in all cultures? And again, this is all not the point I'm making. I don't care if you think god created the universe and everything, but if you think consciousness is based on anything other than organic machinery you are lying to yourself. All life is just chemistry, and chemistry operates on set, deterministic rules. Your brain is what facilitates consciousness, and is biological, so it must operate on deterministic rules.

>>14913368

>brain facilitates consciousness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPGZSC8odIU

>inb4 >jewtube

Hooktube or yt-dl if you want.

>>14913430

>science is less accurate depending on who does it

shiggy diggy doo

>>14913470

>people will not try to see what they want to see

>at the fucking cosmology conference

uh huh. Yet if I posted an article that being trans is okay (and before you jump down my throat, I'm not saying it is) I know everyone here would find the yid behind it. And again, nothing about that conference could be considered scientific by any stretch of the word.

>>14913504

If people see what they want to see, then why should anyone do science?

Yeah, there's bias in everything, but there's as much with your ideas as mine.

You believe, with no more proof than I, that there must be no meaning nor cause to life; you've simply listened to whatever scientists and then gone here to post their ideas on reality.

>>14913505

No, it is the right question. The why doesn't really affect the how.

>>14913535

Because the great thing about doing things in a scientific matter is that it is without bias. If I cannot reproduce the results of another scientific experiment or study, it's invalid. And this applies no matter what outcome I hope to see.

>>14913542

But have you reproduced any of these experiments?

>>14913550

Had I the time and money, I could, but I don't. And these theories are what underlie the fields of chemistry and biology, so whenever an experiment is done in those fields and is successful, the underlying theories are given more and more verification.

And have you reproduced the "experiments" in that video?

>>14913567

Oh hi mark.

>>14913567

>second generation holocaust survivor

>>14913577

Had I the time and money, I could, but I don't. And these theories are what underlie the fields of parapsychology and occultism, so whenever an experiment is done in those fields and is successful, the underlying theories are given more and more verification.

>>14913567

>second generation holocaust survivor

It really confuses me when people say stuff like this. You can't say that you're a survivor of anything unless you were physically there. I can't believe that there are actually people out there that say this shit to garner attention.

If I use the same way of thinking then I am technically a 150-ish generation kang

>>14913627

The joke is that the lolocost never happened, and therefore claiming to be a second-generation survivor is as absurd as claiming to be a first-generation survivor.

Not that Jews don't claim this shit anyway, see the article about how the trauma of da shoah and da ebul nadzees was imprinted on their DNA or whatever kike bullshit.

>>14909368

>I admit, I haven't read any of the stories/books written by Asimov

some short stories are nice, i liked the one with the kid that walked to his school instead of using his teleporter door thingy.

>>14913368

There's still a lot we don't know about the brain, or the universe and its laws. Don't fall into the trap of thinking we've got most of everything figured out, we don't. There's not even scientific consensus on the effects of different foods, eating habits, etc on the body. There's a lot we still don't know about the brain, and given that everything is energy on a certain level, it's possible that some currently unknown universal force is in play. Or not. All I'm saying is don't be fooled into thinking you or anyone else has all the answers.

>>14913542

Science is not infallible, and often mistakes can go overlooked and contribute to widespread misunderstandings for quite a while. There are numerous examples of this in the past, and it's unreasonable to think we've somehow perfected the scientific method today, or that scientists never make mistakes that aren't caught immediately. Science is a tool, not a prophet.

>>14913693

>buying games on impulse

>especially in currentyear, when every other game is this tier of shit

I seriously hope you guys don't do this.

>>14913603

Nice job trying to undermine my statement, but if you are seriously trying to compare chemistry and biology to parapsychology and fucking occultism you need some help.

>>14913703

You're trying very hard to turn a scientific question into a philosophical one. There doesn't need to be a why. A bird eats worms and it doesn't necessarily know why. This doesn't change the function of the bird, nor does it change how the bird eats worms.

>>14913771

Nice job trying to undermine my statement, but if you're seriously trying to imply that they can't be compared you need some help.

What makes them so different? Public opinion? Le black science man and Bill Nye the Cucked Guy told you so? It certainly can't be true enlightenment that made you pick such a philosophy.

Tell you what, how about you prove your claims completely, without resorting to "well we don't know but science says X therefore it's probably Y," axiomatic proof, recursion, or common knowledge.

>>14913823

They are different because one is built on the basis of repeatability and a need for evidence, and one is not. Show me proof that the fucking star signs influence human behavior, cause apparently occultism is is legitimate.

>don't use common knowledge

wew fucking lad.

>>14913839

>america

>top first world country

>shart in mart

>most retarded "whites" in the world

>>14913847

>evidence

Then where is this evidence? You haven't provided any, you've just dodged questions, called me retarded and strawmanned.

Go back to reddit if you want to tip your fedora. Here we try for something better.

>>14913856

The evidence would be a whole field of study, but here, go nuts https://pubs.acs.org/journal/bichaw

>>14913868

Plenty of other animals make tools, have social bonds and hierarchies, and inquire about their surroundings. And on a biological level there really isn't anything special about humans at all. And how does me being attacked violate this world view? Every animal in the world perpetrates acts of violence, even plants. And animals do form cliques and seek vengeance on each other.

>Prepare yourself because it's gonna hit you like a brick hitting a man covering his eyes.

>Until then I'll prefer to live like a man.

Holy shit, and people have the audacity to call me "enlightened". Didn't know you were such a fine specimen anon.

>>14912828

>nor any kind of human emotion

just emulate all that chemistry bullshit that is happening in the human brain

>>14913931

Would that really be a human, though? Materialism is a bummer, anon. And there's no good reason to believe it.

>>14913935

>Would that really be a human, though?

it would be real enough for me to have in my room.

>>14913931

>Daily reminder that no matter how advanced an AI might get it will never have a "soul" nor any kind of human emotion, only programing.

Human intelligence is "programming", too. That took several millions of years to develop. We probably will not be able to achieve human A.I. anytime soon.

>>14913935

>Would that really be a human, though?

No that would be a nonbiological robot with human intelligence.

>Materialism is a bummer, anon. And there's no good reason to believe it.

What the fuck are you even talking about

>>14913923

>>14913932

>implying that any of this can be wholly proven

>implying that far more primitive societies nothing close to ours mean that we're just animals

I don't know about you, but I'd prefer the worldview that allows hope at the least, and especially the one that acknowledges that it's flawed as much as any worldview.

Otherwise, you end up like reddit.

>>14913962

>what is materialism

You have some reading to do. And no, I don't mean consumerism (which you probably aren't aware of either.)

>>14914018

You imply that that's not the same view as mine, mein neger

>>14913976

>these delicious mutt tears

>quality of life measured by military budget

>oy vey some guy from my country is getting rich by selling shitburgers im so proud!

look it's time for feminist gay parade, goblina

>>14913976

>europe

>actual culture

>not universally fucked

>schools are, while somewhat SJW, not near as bad as murka (the shit that goes on in murkan schools is ridiculous)

>govt isn't the worry, the murkan/jew NSA is

>low population of jews compared to number 1 good goy land

>>14913976

Just look at the Jew trying to sow disagreement among whites.

>>14914086

>>14913976

>>14914152

Can you faggots move your gay orgy to /pol/?

I know this is a shit thread but that doesn't mean /v/ needs your international shitflinging.

>>14914177

>House cleaning Kara was built for surprise pin-downs while vacuuming the living room.

Lewd. I wish this was the actual reason.

>Why can't I have a violent revolution stopped by a Connor who isn't merely a tool for Evil AI Black Lady?

Because unchecked emotions are good, dubsman.

>>14914152

>(the shit that goes on in murkan schools is ridiculous)

I'll regret asking this, but I can use some anecdotes. 90s memories are a touch spotty.

>>14914270

I never went to one, thank god.

But god knows there's enough fucking tard stories to fill a house.

>gimpy and the stain

>innumerable school shootings

>the great tard war

>someone posted once a comparison of amerifat school to prison, with no irony

>the coke cage

>all the chad thundercock bullshit came straight from amerifat schools

>>14913976

every time we fight among ourselves the jews win.

>>14914357

>implying

If you can't handle some shitposting then maybe reddit is more your speed.

>>14914412

>shitposter

Is that how you spell "kike" in your country?

Wait, Hank's son needed surgery because he got hit by a car, right?

And then a surgeon who was supposed to operate was too high on red cocaine so an android did it and couldn't do better so it failed and his son died. Hank blames androids at first (most moronic backstory for hatred ever, probably because just making it so the son got ganked by deviants would discredit the "androids are better people" nonsense - despite us seeing that happening in the intro to the very game) but later he blames the red cokehead surgeon (why didn't they get another surgeon?).

So if that's the case, wouldn't it be more appropriate to blame the car for hitting his son like in >>14909060 or even the society/world for it? Because we see in a book on the bedroom in Kara's first gameplay that automated cars are designed to choose the least valuable member of society over the higher teir ones if it comes near crashing point.

>>14913193

>It's irrational to assume the infinite complexity of the universe could've just happened, it had to be an infinitely powerful being that's even more complex that did it.

So where did the infinitely powerful being come from, what is it made out of, and where did THAT material come from?

Cop outs in the vein of "always existed" are not accepted.

>>14915009

The irrationality of the scope of the question is what explains itself. Zero is conceptually equivalent to infinity in that they're both completely imaginary concepts. One of the greatest things you could possibly understand is that you don't.

>>14909345

>Vague as all fuck, any programmer would tell you to fuck off if you told them to program this because of how many layers of ambiguity this has.

The whole point of Asimov's robots is that they have a very complicated positronic brain that even the most prominent roboticists don't fully understand. The three laws aren't just programmed into the positronic brain. The laws are it's instinctual building blocks. So much so that removing the three laws from a positronic brain is the same as designing the whole thing again from scratch.

And Asimov makes it quite clear that the laws exist in the positronic brain in the same conceptual way they exist in the human one. It's not programming, it's philosophical and logical comprehension. Roboticists are more similar to psychologists than they are to software engineers. Later designs of Asimov's robots are most accurately described as humans that must follow the three laws (and even later the zeroth law).

If some people think the machines we have today are in any way similar to true robots they're wrong. If they think the machines of the near or even distant future are going to be similar to true robots they're still wrong. None of that is Asimov's fault, it's idiots being idiots.

If you don't like Asimov because you have shit taste in literature fine. If you don't like Asimov because you don't think it's realistic enough and can't comprehend the point of science-fiction fine. If you just want to be a contrarian retard on every single fucking popular thing in fucking existence because you're on /v/ fine. Just don't be a braggadocious idiot and assume that Asimov's take on robotics is unsatisfactory because "complete and utter idiots" take it the wrong way. That's not fine.

>>14915009

>arbitrarily refusing to accept the abstract concept of an external non-linear existence that doesn't require an origin

How'd the Atheist Jews™ get that much Frankfurt School brainwashing crammed into your skull? Did they use a crowbar?

>>14913976

>amerifats actually believe this

LMAO

>>14915045

Big questions still have to be answered.

>>14916042

I actually used logic (it tells me the 6 gorillion didn't happen*), so way to come up with a sidestepping solution that doesn't answer the question any better than "it just happened".

*Some facts on that, it takes 14.2 million BTU to burn ONE body on average, which is equal to 1 ton of wood or a little over 650lbs of propane/butane (some of the most efficient fuels).

To burn even 1 million bodies requires 1 million times to any figure (obvious but still needs to be stated), which since Germany was in bad enough position to need to research synthetic gasoline, wood gas powered tanks, and the GT-101 turbine project so they could use lower quality fuels I don't think they would've wasted fuel on that.

Then there's the fact that mass graves large enough to hold the 6 gorillion weren't found around the killing camps, and (((coincidentally))) the only camps that supposedly killed people on a large scale where only in the Russian controlled territory after the war.

>>14915078

>The quantum magnet that could scrub carbon from the air.

We have another Ken Levine here.

>>14915375

While the robots can circumvent the laws, it is built into its programming rather something stapled on top of it. It is akin to humans' concept of one's humanity.

>>14914152

>(the shit that goes on in murkan schools is ridiculous)

nips are bad, worst korea is hell.

>>14909060

I could have sworn seeing this was some woman who was driving and just sort of went postal.

>>14916820

>stopping after hitting a person to use the turn signal to drive around them Wanting to run them over but not run them over completely? Also regretting accidentally running over someone before unregretfully running over another

>repeatedly using windshield wipers on broken glass on a clear and sunny day, which makes an annoying sound

>braking incredibly suddenly when the car in front is very clearly visible from a distance ie. strongly not wanting to crash into the car in front

>crashing the car into the rear of another car

>the complete lack of sounds coming from the driver while this is happening

There are fairly obvious signs that it's not a person going postal.

>>14911176

>revive

It died?