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>>14903061

>>14903063

You can`t browse here if you are underaged. Saying that, all the hl games are ok

For starters, they're both some of the most overrated piles of crap in gaming history. But don't take my word for it, play the damn games yourself, niggerfaggot.

>>14903203

I have to agree with this post. HL1 was much better than 2, to the point where I replay it almost yearly. It does have it's low points (Residue Processing), but overall it's a fantastic experience. Opposing Force is bretty gud, although it's boss fights aren't nearly as good as Half Life.

>>14903061

The first game way okay, the rest of the series is shit.

>>14903457

>Half life 1 is shit once you get out of the labs section and the HECU marines start appearing

I'd love to hear your reasoning behind this.

Blue Shift is the best by far IMO, if you like HL2 and can play older games without bitching about graphics then give it a go.

>HL2

Eternal garbage from start to end. The worst level design I've ever seen in a first person shooter ever, and I've played many shitty shooters. The world feels completely empty and boring and the levels are all just corridors. People praise HL2 for the excellent atmosphere which drives me fucking mad. What atmosphere? The levels are absolutely horrible and there isn't a single level in the absolute entire game that is even just slightly atmospheric. They all feel like some kind of forgotten shitty custom-made map made by someone who's probably dead by now for some shitty game. Empty, boring, generic and linear.

Then you have the actual gameplay which is fucking atrocious. A first person shooter where the shooting is boring and unsatisfying. All your weapons with the exception of the crossbow and the revolver are weak as shit, they sound weak as shit and they look like shit. A generic SPAS shotgun which for some fucking reason is in pump-action mode which the IRL SPAS-12 only uses when the shells are under powered. Meanwhile however the NPCs use the very same shotgun in semi-auto. Also

>the shotgun's magazine tube is mistaken for a second barrel and you can shoot two shells at the same time

Who the fuck designed this

Then you have one of the worst SMGs in any game ever which looks like some kind of mullato MP7 which fires paper balls at enemies and has a magic grenade launcher inside the gun that fires 3 fucking grenades from a extra-dimensional second barrel.

Also some retarded alien concept assault rifle that looks like something a 6 year old kid would come up with if you told it to depict what guns will look like in the future.

Oh, and let's not forget the carefully hand-crafted vehicle sections that were lovingly made to make you want to kill yourself from insufferable boredom.

sage because OP is an obvious cuckchanner or redditor. No difference between the two at this point anyway.

>>14903529

the vehicle sections were absolute shit it almost made me puke

>>14903203

call of duty predates hl2 and has much of the same set piece designs we see today. HL2 didn't start it, it did its own take on it.

>>14903495

the novelty wears off and it starts becoming repetitive and a slog to go through

I have never played a single Half Life game.

You pretend to be retarded long enough and eventually you will be surrounded by retards - the thread

>>14904080

>novelty

Of having (for the time) intelligent enemies that not only played by the same rules as the player but used tactics like flushing them out with grenades and so forth?

>>14904093

Thanks for letting us know.

It's fun.

>>14904138

no problem

HL2 was significantly worse than HL1 and disappointed those that had been around for HL1's release. It might not seem so now since many games do the same thing, but HL1 was revolutionary at the time due to the way it integrated storytelling into gameplay. Gave the sense that "this is the future of FPS" when playing it, but it took gamedevs years to attempt following in their footsteps, and then consoles taking over pushed most back to pre-rendered again due to hardware constraints.

It was unfair to expect HL2 to pull off the same kind of revolution, but it still fell flat with a confused plot and awkward ending from Valve's trouble keeping to one direction during development.

>>14903218

>It does have it's low points (Residue Processing)

That's one of Half-Life's strengths honestly. You have really high octane "busy" chapters like 'Power Up' and 'Surface Tension' and slower paced ones like 'Residue Processing' and 'Questionable Ethics'. The mix of small skirmishes, platforming sections, empty areas and bombastic gunfights is blended perfectly. It allows you a chance to breath and makes all the encounters feel unique. Compare with FPS titles that throw hundreds of grunts at you and three helicopters and a tank just to try and overwhelm you and convince you it's action-packed. Nowhere near as memorable because they always blow their load too soon and too frequently.

>>14903529

I found the gunplay in HL2 to be pretty satisfying. The combine have that "urkk" noise when they die which gives you good audio feedback. And all the enemies ragdoll which just feels very very nice. Most of your complaints seem to be /k/ stuff which seems pretty silly since HL1 had nonsensical guns too. The real problem was shifting the setting to Eastern Europe for no good reason.

>>14904295

>gunplay in HL2 to be pretty satisfying

Shit taste. There is nothing satisfying about HL2's combat. The guns are weak, the sounds are shit, the enemies don't react, the enemies are braindead, there is no environmental destruction with dust and debris flying around during a firefight, your friendly NPCs are retarded and the entire thing is horrible

>>14904295

Questionable Ethics was my favorite section of the game and I feel the Surface Tension is considered the best section of HL1 by most people. Residue Processing I disliked for several reasons:

>gameplay consists of platforming and fighting early game enemies with early game weapons

>coming to the realization that you have lost all your cool weaponry and are back to the pistol/crowbar

>horribly unappealing aesthetic (while most of HL takes place in corridors, RP is much worse)

>convoluted conveyor belt systems and looping map design

>all this is right after a fun as fuck fight with the Assassins

Part of why I liked QE so much probably has to do with the fact that it almost seems like the game realized what it did and quickly returns you to your previous power level, while also taking place in a cool area.

>I found the gunplay in HL2 to be pretty satisfying.

Can't dissagree with you more on this one though.

>>14904436

I'd say that Half Life 1 is less clunky than 2, really, although Half Life 2's ladders are marginally less suicidal. Compare the physics engines. HL1's physics are more primitive but also less horrible; you don't have a chance of dying or getting stuck just from walking into a physics object as in 2. This did exist in HL1 (namely swinging doors) but the designers didn't have their heads completely up their asses, so they didn't insert all of those buggy interactions into their levels for the sake of novelty and back-of-the-box marketing. You can generally only see these issues by playing custom levels.

>>14904503

Never even heard of it, although I mostly played multiplayer mods back in the day. But there was a period of time where I browsed modDB like it was front page news and I've never heard of it.

>>14904503

I'd rather avoid bad mods, this one here is a good mod however. https://www.moddb.com/mods/dangerous-world I suggest giving it a try. The sequel's dead unfortunately.

>>14904495

I think Half Life 2 is less "clunky" and more just flimsy. Very little of the game's physics has weight behind it. The enemy ragdolls just feel like foam, the crowbar feels like a wet foam noodle, etc.

I would agree that it's overall WORSE than Half Life 1's issues, but they are certainly separate issues.

>>14904503

I have, ignoring the dificulty, the art direction is trash. There's few games/mods that give me a headache when looking at it.

>>14904518

I thought the crowbar felt great, with the rebalanced damage to things like headcrabs encouraging it to fill a specific weapon niche. One of the solid improvements from hl1 to hl2. The physics are pretty terrible in HL2 overall, poorly used too.

>>14904538

>jew jew abrams and videogames

Pls I just want off this ride everything this kike is attached to is fucking artistic poison. The guy couldn't write his way out of a paper bag that he wrote himself into now what the fuck is this retard going to do? Why does it even have the word "Innovate" behind these 2? What the fuck did JJ ever innovate in his fucking life besides "I aped steven spielberg and put lens flares into everything"

>>14903061

HL1 doesn't hold up at all. Go play Blue Shift and then Opposing Force in that order, and then cap it all off with Black Mesa Source.

>>14904138

Shitty damage sponge enemies and highly inaccurate, weak weapons being the only ones the player regularly gets ammo for.

>>14904580

I swear to fuck. Kikes have punchable faces by nature, but this fucking rat takes it to a whole new level.

>>14904638

Kek

>>14904638

>battle royale that takes place above and inside the ruins of black mesa instead of in a nondescript wasteland

>battle royale with gameplay slightly less braindead than arma-lite

You know, that actually sounds fun

>>14904937

>battle royale that takes place above and inside the ruins of black mesa instead of in a nondescript wasteland

I don't hate this.

>>14904638

>2021

Valve would have whipped that shit out by now if it meant making those sweet sweet shekels off the goyim.

>>14904937

It will only be good if they keep bunny hopping in instead of removing it like in csgo.

>>14903218

>>14903221

OpFor had the tunnel with 7 fucking Voltigores for no reason.

While I don't hate HL2 with burning fury, over time and numerous playthroughs I found it extremely overrated and not worthy of the overall praise. The abundance of interactive cutscenes, chapters that far outlive their welcome (Water Hazard, Highway 17) and downgraded gameplay from HL1 make HL2 VERY non-replayable to the point that I can't even muster any will to play mods for it. For comparison, I replay vanilla HL1 every half a year and I play mods for it every now and then. I think that at this point I went through the entire RTSL mod archive for HL1 and I still yearn for more. Maybe I'll do my own one day.

>>14904481

>I wonder if somebody will ever make a mod for Half Life 2 that re-creates what a lot of the beta had planned

Many tried, but in the end only Dark Interval seems to be alive. They had released the first chapter around half a year ago, it looks promising.

>>14904503

He wasn't the original dev, but he was a HL1 mapper before working in Valve on TF2 and Portal 2.

>>14904481

>>14906276

There's also a nice interpretation of the "Depot" area on moddb.

>>14906147

god that section is fucking terrible. A lot of op4 is just irredeemably shit.

>>14906147

Fuck you for reminding me that section existed. I always manage to suppress my memory of it, because Jesus Christ that was a terrible mix of shitty game design.

>>14906276

>He wasn't the original dev, but he was a HL1 mapper

I had meant to put quotation marks around "original dev" since I had my doubts about the claim being as weighty as he made it out to be, but forgot.

>>14906147

>>14906469

>>14906527

I found it pretty easy since I usually hoard my ammo and a Voltigore easily goes down in around 25 machinegun shots

>>14903203

Agreed with this fella. HL1 also spawned many, many great mods. Some of the greatest fun I had was in Sven Co-Op, Zombie Panic (Some of the levels designed were fantastic), and Brain Bread off the top of my head. I'mma describe them here since nostalgia.

Sven brought a sense of community into the game, let you play the original game co-op and expanded on enemy and item roster in good ways, but more importantly had a plethora of fun maps, ranging from group puzzle solving in a cartoon world, to alternative stories happening co-currently with HL1, and some exploratory levels (I remember there being this huge city that had a ton of secrets that lead to ways to die, required problem solving skills and guess work. Some of the secrets were scary things too like transforming all the textures in the room you were in into jump-scare shit). IIRC it got re-released standalone on steam but I don't feel the same sense of community today.

Zombie Panic (the original, Source was fun too, but felt less… Polished?) had a decent core concept of asymmetrical zombie vs human pvp and some of the best map designs, like the Mall from the original Dawn of the Dead, A Space station where you and everyone else has to get to the escape vehicle while zombies hound you on the way, sub-urban block with several different houses that had cool things like breakable doors/stairs/etc, a cinema and the parking lot outside, investigating a creepy mansion that leads to an underground lab and sewer escape, and investing NORAD-II, a government facility with multiple objectives. It was really fun and had cool mechanics like zombies having a chance of infecting you, limited weapons and ammo that are scattered throughout the level. Excellent fun, also another great sense of community.

Brain Bread was another zombie mod but with a completely different focus. Instead it was a PvE against hordes of AI zombies mod, with tonnes of custom maps with objectives that had you travel through awesome levels. The best part about it was a mix of it's weapon design and unique system for HL at the time: The zombies could be gibbed and still keep moving, like you could blow of arms, legs, chunks of torso, but they wouldn't die straight away if you didn't confirm a kill. Less player-made fun than Zombie Panic but with some very good ideas from a game design perspective.

>>14906801

What a weird raven guard spacemarine.

>>14903061

Don't play vanilla HL2, download SMOD Redux instead (https://archive.is/QeYpr).

>>14907946

I've played SMOD, it feels like your average recommended Skyrim mod. Shows some cool ideas but doesn't fix all the fundamental issues with the game, namely the levels.

>>14906147

the person in that video is terrible at playing the game. And so are you.m Don't blame the game for your ineptness.

>>14907522

I am one of those autists and I easily got the most hours and I honestly agree with you and what you did. The threads went on much longer than they should've and nothing productive was going on in them besides file dumping to keep things up to date and whatnot. Don't got to drag that corpse around anymore. We still do play it from time to time as he said but we sort of moved onto other vidya as well. I'm actually playing it right now.

I wasn't kidding when I said shitposters turned me on initially and if you could relinquish your Taiga folder I would appreciate it.