3e3be4 No.14883603
Reminder nerds, Elder Scrolls Online is why you can't have mainline TES anymore. Even leaker of Fallout 76 admitted it (yeah, i know he's a cuckchanner faggot).
No, i don't want to shill, or create stupid thread that will be saged to oblivion.
I want to know what you think about it and how it came that Elder Scrolls Online is so fucking popular right about now, that it blinded bethesda from even attempting mainline TES anymore.
Maybe its even for the best we don't have it anymore. Nobody wants skyrim with even less skills and less quests.
16dc98 No.14883615
What exactly are you talking about, OP?
You don't elaborate what the supposed leaker said, so I have no context for your post.
>Elder Scrolls Online is so fucking popular right about now
Is it?
c925a6 No.14883618
>elder scrolls online
Huh? Didn't that thing die on arrival like half a decade ago? Even uber-shills like AngryJoe shit on it for being a lame half-assed Korean MMO-looking knock off.
419139 No.14883622
>>14883603
>that Elder Scrolls Online is so fucking popular right about now
I haven't heard a single thing about TESO since it launched.
27f09d No.14883624
ESO is popular, When i played it was a ghostown in 2016, if you mean recently then no shit when a new expandion got released, but itll die off again soon. Dont really give a shit about bethseda games anymore when theyre hell bent on scrapping and removing any RPG elements from their eariler games.
3e3be4 No.14883632
>>14883618
No, it not only didn't die, they made two expansions for it already. Its STILL not f2p and has a lot of people from wow switching to it, who never played elder scrolls before.
>>14883622
>>14883618
Its not popular only among "i played tes since morrowind" crowd. Normalfags eat it up in droves because its subscription based and not f2p/p2w just like wow.
4729cb No.14883635
>>14883603
I thought it was because Bethesda is deathly afraid of killing the golden goose by releasing TES VI and it not being Skyrim 2.0 in terms of success.
27f09d No.14883644
>>14883624
Ment to be a question mark but whatever, ESO is boring as shit paint by the numbers wow clone, I did like being able to steal shit like in the mainline games but you can only steal 20k worth of goods everyday and killing NPCs is boring when they just end up respawning. Scrapping the justice system was retarded as fuck too, it would of been a very fun way for much deeper player interaction, but we cant have fun in an MMO apparently.
16dc98 No.14883645
>>14883632
OP pls respond to my question >>14883615
e0892c No.14883652
>>14883603
>Elder Scrolls Online is why you can't have mainline TES anymore.
More like it's the fault of all the enablers who keeps buying shitty games like that in the first place.
But why would you want another TES nowadays? Skyrim was terrible, even with all those mods, the core gameplay is boring to the death.
It's a dead franchise, just move on.
3e3be4 No.14883662
>>14883645
What question? The thread is about shit. And i am willing to hear opinions about the fact TES actually switched to MMO for good.
9915a8 No.14883664
I thoughts this the moment I heard about the game years ago.
>What? It's set in all of Tamriel? What's the point of making any more Elder Scrolls games then?
turns out there wasn't any
>>14883632
Are you sure it's still subscription based? I know you have to buy the base game and expansions to play but I thought they trashed the monthly fee.
27f09d No.14883672
>>14883664
They did, but theres a premium monthly sub
3e3be4 No.14883674
>>14883652
>More like it's the fault of all the enablers who keeps buying shitty games like that in the first place.
Most of them are console users too. And its PVE focused game, so people stay in it for the content, and not the online features. Especially because it allows players roam around entire Tamriel.
16ea93 No.14883676
>>14883603
I sure am sad about not having another dumbed down Skyrim 2-tier game.
16dc98 No.14883682
>>14883662
>What question?
My question is what the leaker said. I'm.. not sure how that seemed obtuse in anyway.
Is English your second language?
c06d97 No.14883683
>>14883603
If you were even a quarter right, it would be TESO they'd be releasing on everything, not Skyrim. So, lmaoing@yourbrain
c8a27f No.14883688
>>14883632
>Normalfags eat it up in droves because its subscription based
It's buy-to-play, not subscription based. You can pay a monthly fee for "premium" benefits but it's not required to play the game.
I don't like the game either but at least get your facts straight.
06af3e No.14883690
>>14883674
I wonder if it'd be possible to rip the maps out and put it in a proper rpg.
a3c382 No.14883699
>>14883603
>Reminder nerds, Elder Scrolls Online is why you can't have mainline TES anymore.
This is supposed to be bad somehow?
3e3be4 No.14883709
>>14883682
Yes, he replied with name of the game exactly to post that doubt him about this.
3e3be4 No.14883714
>>14883683
More like they continue making new content for TESO instead of mainline games should be proof enough its successful.
26977e No.14883722
Even a leaker admitted what exactly about TESO and Fallout76? Why did a game made by zenimax blind bethesda?
3e3be4 No.14883728
>>14883722
The reason why there's no mainline TES is because TESO is doing "really fucking great": >>14883709
And if mainline would be released right now, it would steal PVE player base from TESO. That's it. As long as TESO is at all time high with player base, we aren't going to see new elder scrolls.
614a43 No.14883735
I liked the healing in ESO
26977e No.14883741
I see. So if fallout76 is the first "big project" T o double D said he's working on then what's the other? That "leaker" is a larper and types like a child too. It's obvious that 76 is a multi-player settlement builder.
3e3be4 No.14883756
>>14883741
>T o double D said he's working on then what's the other?
Starfield obviously you fucking blind nigger.
26977e No.14883763
>>14883756
I thought that game was a fucking joke. But it's actually real, holy shit. I don't follow and eat up normalfag trash.
3e3be4 No.14883770
>>14883763
It was mentioned by E3 staff in previous year, and registered as a trademark, of course its fucking real its just in development hell because being made together with Fallout 76.
97d767 No.14883787
>>14883603
They should do the same to Fallout then, and the rest of their IPs as well. At least then I know it's all bound up in mmoshit. Which may as well be brain death to me.
3c3cc5 No.14883788
ESO is pretty much proof you can just have a bunch of dummy accounts prop up your game that less than 100k people play and literally nobody will realize or care.
c8a27f No.14883793
>>14883788
EvE Online proved this years ago.
a267dd No.14883842
That's a good news. Eso is irrelevant to the plot and if the manlet and his team of retards don't touch the franchise anymore, i'm happy.
1601b9 No.14883845
The real reason is that even Bethesda knows they can't rape the dead corpse of the gamebyro engine again and will need to find a new engine for the next TES game, which is made harder because they still also want modding so they can still have people fix their broken shit for free and make a third attempt at paid mods some day.
9d15f6 No.14883847
>>14883845
piad mods are the communism of games. "This time it will work"
b543ed No.14883874
>>14883847
>piad mods are the communism
I hope you're apolitical enough when saying such stupidity.
dc9f7c No.14883897
>>14883883
>But they are.
You don't own the means of production and bethesda get money from that. Its not communism, its pure capitalism.
5e5f5a No.14883914
>>14883883
>That Maxim
>Compatible with private ownership of any sort
Just don't talk about politics, /v/
e727b6 No.14883938
>>14883603
It's a good game if you're a TESfag. Been playing it the entire day. It certainly has the best pvp of all mmos.
15dda7 No.14883948
>>14883883
Damn, you are fucking dense
a6e3d5 No.14883952
>>14883847
>piad mods are the communism of games
16009c No.14883966
>>14883883
>>14883847
There's a thread on /leftypol/ about this now, good job faggots.
faa5f9 No.14884009
We must support Socialism with Bethesda Characteristics in their critical struggle against the jewish imperialist gaming community.
t. "REMOVE N'WAH" NATBOL GANG
3c3cc5 No.14884016
>>14883966
Of fucking course those worthless cocksuckers would defend this company. I bet Altman even illicitly funds antifa gangs.
4729cb No.14884054
>>14883966
Why wouldn't /leftypol/ be busy defending the Jewish practices of the company that gave them Wolfenstein 2?
>>14884009
>the jewish imperialist gaming community
Anti-Semitic much? I'll have you know that Jews have been at the forefront of the proletariat's struggle against the nationalistic bourgeois that doesn't want to share their prosperity with our brother from Africa and the Middle East.
3c3cc5 No.14884121
>>14884094
Thank you for reminding me not only how ugly TESO is but how armor design has gone down the toilet since WoW got big.
a490d6 No.14884134
atleast we have the niggers at beyond skyrim, bruma was pretty fucking good and they say the teams working on roscrea and illiac bay were releasing something soon
https://beyondskyrim.org/
3c3cc5 No.14884146
>>14884132
I don't care if it's unrealistic. The problem is that even with their infinite excuses and ability to design whatever the fuck they want to, they still end up making a bunch of shit that all looks the same and lacks any sort of color theory. It's like they're deathly afraid of having anything stick out.
e727b6 No.14884152
>>14884094
There's no actual canon since the Warp in the West dude. Whenever a game introduces time fuckery, the lore dies.
a490d6 No.14884163
>>14884147
I dunno there are loads of big mods. the beyond skyrim guys are just small teams making each province in skyrim with quests and more lore. I dont remember any tranny fags in Bruma though
4729cb No.14884166
>>14884146
>I don't care if it's unrealistic.
You'll go in the gas chamber with them too.
>It's like they're deathly afraid of having anything stick out.
There's plenty of spikes and pauldrons that stick out. But yes, I agree, the art direction in fantasy games is beyond abysmal, and when it's not utter shit it's ruined by leftist political shoehorning.
b8fd9e No.14884167
>>14883938
Agreed. Jumped in with Morrowind and it was fun.
85b6d9 No.14884211
>>14884147
Forget mods. Apparently TESO has a tranny in the latest Summerset expansion. Haven't played it to confirm firsthand, but it lines up well with the questline being about "open borders for Alinor!" and "refugees welcome! :DDD". There's already a lot of gay and bisexual NPCs in TESO that constantly remind your of their sexual leanings out of the blue. The Morrowind DLC had this "literally who" Dunmer female dockworker you meet for a brief few seconds around the beginning of the DLC return for the end where all the major NPCs are recognized for their achievements by Vivec. Her only notable characteristic was that she was a lesbian as mentioned by Vivec.
It's now canon that at least the 2nd Era oozed decadence until Talos came and fucked everyone's shit up.
ec1538 No.14884230
>>14883699
This. Daggerfall and Morrowind were broken games that showed lots of potential. Instead of fixing them with later installments they instead dumbed everything down while adding more problems. There is nothing to hope for in TES and we got enough games in the series by now to prove it.
28a322 No.14884247
>>14883672
Not to mention that if you play on cuntsoles, you have to pay a monthly fee just to play it online before you can pay your monthly fee to play it online with a bit more content unlocked.
1398d0 No.14884257
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14883603
Good.
Fuck that company.
I cant replay Daggerfall and Morrowind any day.
NOW WATCH AN INTERVIEW WITH A MAD MAN (Daggerfall dev)
1c89b9 No.14884342
>TES:O is the reason why Toddler and Hiney baby dont rape TES further.
I'm ok with this…
1cb0c7 No.14884380
No shit man, it's the usual course of action now. Online makes more money. We'll probably never get another GTA with a satisfying campaign either (and V's SP was anemic enough already) because GTA Online is one of the most profitable games in existence.
3c3cc5 No.14884613
>>14884380
I'm still convinced GTA is just some elaborate money laundering scheme for the music industry.
233cee No.14884692
>Elder Scrolls Online
>so fucking popular
this is how I know it's a shill thread
check my digits
4729cb No.14884775
>>14884760
Leftists defend corporations all the time. Just look at how valiantly they stood in the face of criticism against Star Wars. What you must realize is that the leftists will defend the Jew no matter what.
4729cb No.14884823
>>14884805
>Are you talking about leftists or SJWs?
/leftypol/, you might think yourself different from the screeching mutants over on tumblr, but at the end of the day both suck the same circumcised cock. Just ask your BO.
>(We also hate Jews too, we just don't like getting cucked by chad as much as you do)
Oh, hey, Aztec Jew. How are you doing? Ready to sperg out about the "glory" of spics again?
4729cb No.14884875
>>14884856
>>14884862
>/leftypol/ hates the Jew too!
3c3cc5 No.14884883
>>14884875
There was a thread there about the hypocrisy of actors supposedly being for socialism while being rich cunts who never spread their wealth that was deleted within an hour.
33854e No.14884914
>>14884856
>There's a ton of anti-semitism on the left though
You literally do their bidding you fucking morons
b86466 No.14884948
>>14884856
>There's a ton of anti-semitism on the left though.
Are we walking on the same planet?
a5f441 No.14884956
>>14884948
I mean, they did invent the Nazbol meme
33854e No.14884962
>>14884956
the ironic joke meme? You realize that's not serious?
b86466 No.14884970
>>14884956
It some meaningless shit that only like to spam.
>Bolshevisim
>anti-semitism
Should I post more smug cats?
3c3cc5 No.14884975
>>14884956
"They" did not.
a5f441 No.14884976
>>14884962
That's kinda the best part, really, the main board had to ban it because it got serious, the last shooter in
>Be american
>Get shot
was pretty blatantly an unironic Nazbol.
3c3cc5 No.14885041
>>14885015
They've been doing this in nearly any Bethesda related thread since the stream announcement. I'm sure it's just a coincidence though.
a5f441 No.14885056
>>14885041
>Tinfoiling this hard
Why are these cucks your boogieman?
f1d4b1 No.14885064
>>14883603
Why must everything I love be shat on so? So the last "real" fallout game will be the abomination that is fallout 4?
b86466 No.14885077
>>14885056
>/leftypol/ doesn't specifically exist to subvert the entire website
How fucking new?
b8fd9e No.14885081
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Why ask for another TES when you're just going to replace their perk system, combat system, and add 150+ new spells, weapons and armor respectively? Skyrim expanded or whatever the mod is called is planning on adding the rest of Tamriel. I'm sure they're currently workoing on as much as I'm sure they're taking their time so the next installment doesn't feel like Skyrim with mods.
I really like the "you're the hero of your own story" path they've decided to take. My favorite games are the ones where I feel like I'm in it.
3c3cc5 No.14885086
>>14885064
Maybe you should try loving terrible things so they can die.
f1d4b1 No.14885093
>>14885086
What do you love?
b8fd9e No.14885097
f1d4b1 No.14885103
>>14885097
Well I love Fallout 1, 2, 3 and NV. Can't guide the heart you know.
b86466 No.14885110
>>14885103
>1, 2, 3 and NV
>3
f1d4b1 No.14885133
>>14885110
Love is blind. I even tried playing fallout 4 32 hours without mods 45 hours with mods
2ce8cc No.14885164
>>14885146
How many catto do you have?
4729cb No.14885167
>>14885110
The one good thing FO3 did was make the combat better. And yes, I'm aware that this was no high achievement, but I'll give credit where credit is due.
I would still have liked a Van Buren with the gameplay of Tactics.
f1d4b1 No.14885174
1bfcb9 No.14885185
>>14883603
>>14883615
>ESO
>Popular
Last time I heard the game had an active playerbase of 100,000 people. Which, considering this is an MMO based on a popular AAA gaming franchise is about 5% of the playerbase it should have to be successful.
3c3cc5 No.14885194
>>14885185
FFXI had around that same playerbase and it managed to make more money than 7. Then again, it wasn't free to play so who knows. I will agree though that "popular" is the last word you should use to describe it.
a09c2c No.14885206
A casual nigger coworker won't shut up about this and the new fallout. Why do casualfags eat this up? He said something about the new fallout being set in the past. Did Todd run out of ideas and decide to take a big shit on fallout 2?
b86466 No.14885216
>>14885164
141 the ones that i've sorted into their own file that is, there are still plenty of lose ones
947fc6 No.14885245
Skyrim was basically riding in the GoT hype of le dragons and le cold, a new Elder Scrolls will probably wait for another fantasy show to get overhyped by the cattle so Beth can learn which elements they want to rip off. Since that will probably be Amazon's Lord of the Rings - We Wuz Edition, expect TES 6 to be in either Hammerfell or a completely lore raped version of the Summerset Isles.
3c3cc5 No.14885250
>>14885245
>Skyrim was basically riding in the GoT hype of le dragons and le cold
I seem to remember the Toddler himself admitting this.
897485 No.14885252
>>14883632
That Vivec makes me queasy, all those pics are like some shit from another dimension.
897485 No.14885263
>>14883635
I don't think they're even working on TES VI, I doubt there's *anything* done on that front and anything they do end up doing will be copy/pasted from that >>14883632 hellzone of shit.
482e54 No.14885275
>>14885206
No, judging from the rumors he ran out of ideas and went for the "unexplored prequel" route. Take note aspiring creatives, always leave time gaps between your franchise installments so you can retroactively add filler in case you run out of ideas but still want money.
897485 No.14885290
>>14884823
>that pic
Even in text form they can't shut the fuck up.
a09c2c No.14885319
>>14885275
That's a bit of a relied then. Still won't make that nigger shut up about how amazing todd's games are.
>tfw he then went on about how age of Camelot will be a better mountain blade than butterlord
1fb915 No.14885349
>>14885250
Same as Oblivion was running on the hype of Lord Of the Rings. Elven armor and all.
3c3cc5 No.14885366
>>14885349
I definitely remember that much, which is odd considering Morrowind more lines up with that release.
9c6801 No.14885391
>>14885366
Think about the development time anon. Morrowind was in development for I think something like a decade before Lord of the Rings was released, it was Oblivion that was in development right as and after Lord of the Rings' big theatrical hype. Release year means shit, it's development you need to look at.
3c3cc5 No.14885404
>>14885391
>Morrowind was in development for I think something like a decade before Lord of the Rings was released
That would mean they'd need to have started on it before even Arena came out.
9c6801 No.14885417
>>14885404
Fine, so it was in development from 1998, doesn't change my point at all, it was still being developed long before the Lord of the Rings films were a thing.
3c3cc5 No.14885429
>>14885417
And Skyrim was in development well before the GoT show ever came out either yet you can see the inspiration clear as day. I think the problem is that everyone at Bethesda is just a derivative media junky.
740d38 No.14885436
>>14885252
It's because the game uses Hero Engine AKA the same engine Tortanic uses
1fb915 No.14885473
>>14885429
Guess they haven't hired any creative talent in 15 years.
a09c2c No.14885484
>>14885436
That explains how Todd is shitting out game after game now. Oblivion wad just the beginning. For fuck's sake, there are people that believe oblivion is the best elder scrolls game now for some reason.
482e54 No.14885510
>>14885484
It's just pure hipster contrarianism and a desire to be cool because they got sick of Skyrim and realized it's objectively boring when you stop listening to the chemicals in your lizard brain.
8d3b1a No.14885685
>>14884914
It's mostly just the early anarchists whose wrong-think today is generally ignored
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/proudhon/1847/jews.htm
Bakunin:
"This whole Jewish world, comprising a single exploiting sect, a kind of blood sucking people, a kind of organic destructive collective parasite, going beyond not only the frontiers of states, but of political opinion, this world is now, at least for the most part, at the disposal of Marx on the one hand, and of Rothschild on the other… This may seem strange. What can there be in common between socialism and a leading bank? The point is that authoritarian socialism, Marxist communism, demands a strong centralisation of the state. And where there is centralisation of the state, there must necessarily be a central bank, and where such a bank exists, the parasitic Jewish nation, speculating with the Labour of the people, will be found."
8d3b1a No.14885721
>>14885081
Mostly the lore.
The Towers will be sundered. The Doom Drum will awaken. Ysmir, in his mountain, still thirsts for the blood of elves.
Night of Tears 2.0 when?
5e5f5a No.14885818
>>14885349
I want to be more skeptical of this but I can think of no other reason why they would insert that retcon with Tiber Septim willing Cyrodil into a temperate climate than if not to appeal to the Shire fuckery that was popular around that time. I can only assume completely eliminating all the other interesting parts of imperial culture (moth cults, dragon worship, nibenese and colovian cultures) was part of making it more palatable.
Which is patently bizarre considering the praise most people reach for when talking about Morrowind is how unique and atypical its setting was. Nothing is good.
5e5f5a No.14885859
>>14885685
Proudhon and Bakunin's antisemitism is ignored mostly for not being congruent with the rest of their philosophy. Whereas most communist and anarchist writings of the time were materialist, and only analyzed the organs of power through the surrounding material conditions, these guys ascribed the jews with a certain magical quality that marked them as guilty perpetrators as a people, independent of circumstances. Marx's "On the Jewish Question" is an example of a material approach in which his basic conclusion is that Jewish nationalism is a type of antisemitism in and of itself. That's a popular view among leftists, but not at all among liberals.
Plus it became totally absurd as Anarchist movements were filled more and more with Jews.
sage because no one on /v/ gives two shits
67f0d6 No.14885862
>>14883847
>>14883874
>>14883883
>forcing your irrelevant cult on the topic with such obvious samefagging
fuck off to your containment chamber
>>>/leftypol/
72038d No.14886666
>>14886607
1. How the fuck is ESO doing well at all.
2. This fag needs to post more if he's going to be posting this accurately half a year out.
b86466 No.14887495
>>14886666 Nice digits
>because the name isn't a give away enough
And anyone could guess its some Rust related crap after Fallout Shelter (the one in first person)
8e8819 No.14887533
Does this piece of shit have Australian servers?
I'm willing to play almost anything at this point.
16a597 No.14892683
>>14883690
Would you want to? This game fucks the spatial worldbuilding of the setting harder than Oblivion did.
>>14884211
>canon
Transcription errors :^)
d8f53c No.14892695
>>14883603
>you can't have mainline TES anymore
And nothing of value was lost.
ca63a1 No.14893102
>>14886666
I watched a friend play a bit on PS4 and all of the cities he went to looked very populated and queues for PvP arenas were under a minute (10-15 players per lobby). Its loaded as fuck with microtransations, like cosmetic dogs as well as outfits and I saw a lot of dogs.
f3d67f No.14893326
>>14884257
I love that guy. I wish he would get back into video game development. Sadly, he probably won't.
>>14884948
Some sjws (like McJosh) hate Israel because it's a mideast occupation that kills brown people. It's just a case of a broken clock being right.
b3441b No.14894061
>>14884211
Anon, "remind" and "tell" are two different words. Use them correctly.
8d3b1a No.14899213
What are the odds of something like Battlespire, Redguard or Shadowkey being released in the next couple years before TES6, considering the recent announcement of a new fallout?
a3ff0f No.14900069
>>14885275
Vault 76 is already in the established lore. Its one of the few control vaults, where there was no social experiment and it was what it said it was: a vault to protect people from nuclear fallout.
f81494 No.14902946
>unironically like skyrim the most
>like Oblivion slightly less
>looking forward to Open Source Morrowind just to see how they completely remake the physics via mods.
Once OS Morrowind becomes a thing I would keep a very keen eye on its Mod support. As I feel it would be the most interesting development of mod stuff ever. The sheer freedom that it would offer would probably generate a fandom on par with the Sonic. A fandom that have grown so understanding and intimate with their favorite franchise that they've used it to launch careers [Freedom planet, Spark the Electric Jester, SONIC FUCKING MANIA]. Completely outpacing the game company they love so dearly.
I honestly hope the fandom completely out fucking skills the company they love. It's a longshot. But I hope with OS Morrowinds completion it sets the groundwork for everyone else to completely overturn Bethesda's strangle hold on TES. To the point them DMCA'ing the damn thing would only make things worse. Forcing the company to compete with their own fucking fandom or die. And the Fandom has everything they're too lazy or corporately up their own ass to do.
Sega's fucking lucky their Sonic fandom loves them so genuinely[the highly critical kind of loving]. I highly doubt Bethesda's fandom will be as kind once it reaches similar powerlevels. But hey at least they won't have to worry about TES for a good long time. Lets hope OS Morrowind won't be the new one god of future game engines for Fallout as well. Because hooo boy at that point it'll take a couple of dedicated 3d designers/animators and things will fall apart for them pretty fucking quickly. Better hope they pull a Sega and learn to respect/employ their newfound competitors/fandom.
6d9bdf No.14904552
>>14884823
>pic
>Oy vey, we couldda stopped Prism but those /pol/ idiots decided to be right-wing SJWs and ruined it all!
This reminds me of the SJWs back in 2014 claiming that they were really close to getting many universities to start archiving video games in order to preserve them, but oh no! those disgusting misogynists with that Gamergate harassment campaign made video games look bad and now universities no longer wanted to help preserve old vidya since it was seen as toxic and problematic.
>This thing you want? You could have had it if only you hadn't stepped out of line. I know you've never heard about me working on this, but I swear, I was working really hard to achieve that, and now I can't/won't because of what you did.
This is a VERY common tactic.
7d94df No.14904595
Morrowind was amazing, Oblivion was good, Skyrim was shit, given this progression I'm not sad they aren't shitting out more.
f9d06c No.14905481
I refuse to believe TESO is doing well, its a failure as a tes game and a failure as an mmo, the classes have even less customization than GW2 and why isn't it freebuild classes in the first place?
3c3cc5 No.14905489
>>14905481
>why isn't it freebuild classes in the first place?
I thought it was to an extent, at least as far as weapon choices go. Was that changed?
f5d667 No.14905501
>>14883603
>how it came that Elder Scrolls Online is so fucking popular right about now
It isn't
f9d06c No.14905517
>>14905489
I should have worded that better, I meant why does it even have classes, just let players pick starting skills and let them play. I am willing to compromise and have a skill limit.
3c3cc5 No.14905532
>>14905517
Well, when the game first came out all anyone did was pick staves and use this area force push thing to gangfuck everything in any dungeon. The game was a complete clusterfuck and it seemed pretty obvious to me at least that they didn't really have the whole pick anything idea in mind when making it. Hell, it probably wasn't even supposed to be an Elder Scrolls game until late in development.
13c930 No.14905559
perhaps the fact that ESO is even functional is enough for Zenimax to priorotize and force Bethesda to work on other franchise so there would be competition even inside the company because of its small player base
all these extremely well done cinematic trailers are bait to people who actually want to play the original and its sequels
7d582c No.14905570
>>14883897
>Pure Capitalism
Not quite. To have the market be "Pure" Capitalism, you couldn't have the Copyright aspect in which Bethesda owns all aspects of the series. Modders would be able to take any and all elements of the series and create their own version in which they'd be able to put on the market. Bethesda would have to woo the market-base back to them by putting out an objectively better game (or subjectively by whatever market they were going for).
7d582c No.14905581
>>14905501
Times 15 dollarydoos a month
>245,415/ year if the 24 hour peak is counted
>449,685/ year for the all-time count
3c3cc5 No.14905584
>>14905581
It's free to play and has been for over 3 years.
7d582c No.14905675
>>14905584
Wow, I'm out of touch then.
f9d06c No.14905720
>>14905532
It wasn't, they just added sidequests till they decided "Fuck it, rename it."
1f1401 No.14906288
Can someone post "guess that race" picture? I've seen it in scrolls thread couple of days ago but forgot to save.
8a22b5 No.14906615
>>14905501
It's more popular as a console MMO.
b86466 No.14906640
>>14906288
How about you update instead you fucking reddit-sexual.
49e40a No.14906646
>>14905501
this doesnt include non-steam players.
>>14905584
>>14905675
no it isnt. it is currently b2p with optional sub.
b86466 No.14906648
>>14902946
> the fandom completely out fucking skills the company
>It's a longshot
Anon, I……
899a9d No.14906657
>>14906640
there was an update two weeks ago, shut the fuck up
b86466 No.14906684
>>14906657
I tough it was extremely short but I just now noticed there is some sort of puzzle
I've been moving stars for a solid 10 minutes and only got a rock with her projection, what do?
899a9d No.14906690
>>14906684
Try moving some more. I got it first try moving from left to right. You'll get some skellingtons at the end.
b86466 No.14906699
>>14906690
Looks like she is going to summon a skele.
Too bad Sigrid delet it.
1f1401 No.14906714
>>14906699
Most likely. This whole situation is depressing.
We have a nice derail going
b86466 No.14906743
>>14906714
Katia has no fucking way out of this but Sigrid can't put her under charm now or kill her with magic so this is one shitty stalemate. Kaz already set up the joke of the skele getting wrecked but I'm sure he has no idea how to resolve this.
Discussing Prequel is way more productive than the infinite modern Beth threads.
3e78a4 No.14906764
Do you remember singleplayer games? Singleplayer games were nice.
ee10a6 No.14906976
>>14906743
>Sigrid can't put her under charm now or kill her with magic
Did I miss something? Explain?
I wish I could draw like Kaz. It so simplistic yet so good.
f72e36 No.14906988
>>14883603
Who cares, Oblivion and Skyrim were both shit anyway.
b86466 No.14907129
>>14906976
You missed the whole point that Katia managed to break the charm spell extremely fast and Sigrid is basically interogating her to find out how she broke it so fast. Also Katia absorption any spell she gets hit by so she's almost immune. Sigrid even mentioned she in envies how she has to put on a shitload of enchantments just to have the equivalent resistance Katia is born with.
Also judging on how curvy she is in that it was drawn by Cider in that case.
539f61 No.14907170
>>14907129
Oh right, she's born under Atronach sign.
Forgot about that, tee hee.
00696c No.14907267
At this point I honestly don't even want a new TES or Fallout if Bethesda is going to be making it.
4b9499 No.14907362
>>14885859
>sage because no one on /v/ gives two shits
I've been dabbling in looking up Proudhon after Marx fucking plagiarized him as well as everything else in his life so I'm rather happy this point got raised. All the more to learn in order to properly dispel the bullshit and social complicity infecting the modern Western world.
In general I feel slightly better about the current state of the board thanks to your post. This thread isn't exactly optimal in discussion quality but it's infinitely better compared to the cuckchan template spam currently flooding the catalog.
3f1c03 No.14907437
I tried to get into TESO twice and I regret it. It played like a standard themepark MMORPG and I kept finding invisible walls. The only thing it has going for it is that it's Elder Scrolls, but even that doesn't matter because it butchers the lore. Even my friend who I played it with, who is a big Elder Scrolls fan, gave up within a few hours. The gameplay is also inspired by Skyrim, the worst Elder Scrolls game.
The only reason it would be popular is because there's nothing else worth playing right now and normalfags are finally getting tired of WoW.
cfec70 No.14907665
Decided to give ESO a try after reading this thread, so I bought summerset (was only $30 on GMG and came with the base game and both expansions) and 3 months of ESO+ since I dropped WoW early legion and I can't see myself ever going back despite playing off and on since vanilla.
You know what? It's actually fun. I don't know how long it'll hold my interest, but I'm sure it'll fill that 3+ month gap until we see the new nvidia cards and then I can tackle the couple dozen newish games I've pirated and set aside.
4f62f5 No.14907719
>>14907437
>The gameplay is also inspired by Skyrim
This right here is going to be the downfall of TES, unless they do something about dumbing down to everything We're going to end up with interactive movies with an open world to go from scripted event to scripted event
cfec70 No.14907736
>>14907719
Outside of completely gutting Morrowind's excellent magic customization (which is fixed by mods), Skyrim is a massive gameplay upgrade over morrowind and shitblivion. You must have forgotten how fucking terrible the "complex" (but not really) stat leveling system in Morrowind and Oblivion was. Or how in Oblivion, every enemy scaled with you into these disgusting HP sponges that took dozens upon dozens of hits to kill, and the only way to efficiently kill them was to exploit the enchant system and make a -% res, -% magic res, and elemental damage weapon, since the negative res would stack and you'd do more damage every hit.
648360 No.14907784
>>14906657
And updates used to happen every week, and even less before that, you fucking mongoloid.
f5d667 No.14907802
>>14906615
>It's more popular as a console MMO.
No it isn't.
648360 No.14907814
>>14907802
They probably have just the drones/whales left that feed them and create the illusion its doing well.
f5d667 No.14907820
>>14907814
It seems to be more like a last ditch marketing effort before the entire thing gets scrapped because the Morrowind expansion didn't bring the numbers they wanted.
539f61 No.14907823
>>14907784
There's also used to be a year long hiatus so be grateful it isn't completely dead and fuck right off.
87bc91 No.14908822
>>14907823
>Be grateful
>To "50-day-delay" Kazerad
Lolno; I've seen better quality and publishing consistency from inanimate objects.
669acf No.14908845
>>14908822
>I've seen better quality and publishing consistency
Name one (1) webcomic.
b86466 No.14909518
>>14907823
Was this worth 2 bazzingillion years?
cfec70 No.14909668
>>14909551
>we removed skills and retconned the story to make the games more accessible to women
I laugh every time. Even the biggest soycucks know women are subhuman.
8d3b1a No.14909674
>>14909551
I guess attributes confirmed kill for tes6
d30992 No.14909702
>>14909551
SJW are not infiltrating games they said. I don't care about politics they said.
a6a605 No.14909714
>>14909702
>SJW are not infiltrating games they said. I don't care about politics they said.
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3c3cc5 No.14909798
>>14909674
They already weren't in Skyrim.
669acf No.14909807
>>14909674
>tes6
yeah in like 10 years when they couldn't milk fallout anymore
6e76c5 No.14909820
8d3b1a No.14909831
>>14909798
I thought they might come back, just casualized :(
21bb43 No.14909947
>>14909551
We joke about Todd, but fucking hell. The ego of this smarmy bastard is immeasurable whenever he spews text towards the most ardent of Bethesda Loyal Customers™. Pete Hines better be on the top of every angry Mexican canine's list. Archive of tweet for our folders?
f7da83 No.14909958
>Elder Scrolls Online is why you can't have mainline TES anymore
Good, I don't want any more.
07f496 No.14910847
>>14883603
>well Skyrim lol
no, fuck you
I want a real TES game, not another life service shekeler
fuck Bethesda
FUCK eso
9d9d4d No.14910879
>See some of your favorite franchises, some you even grew up with, wither and die right in front of you
>all because they dont want to make a lot of money, but all of the money
I hate this timeline.
61f6c8 No.14910982
What do you with pre war money in New Vegas, sell it to vendors or exchange it to caps in casinos? Which one is more profitable?
b2dec3 No.14910993
>>14909551
>dumbing down the series because its 'too complex' for women
>women are equals btw
dcb42a No.14912506
>>14909551
>shove "and women" in your diatribe to make yourself look like the goody and anyone criticising you the baddy
>inadvertently call women retarded
>get applauded anyway because "muh women" rhetoric still has too strong an effect on the addled sjw mind
I'd almost be impressed by Hines ability to fuck with people if he wasn't such a prick.
1c89b9 No.14912549
>>14909551
>>14909947
The real tragedy here is that how long it took /v/ to recognize the true evil behind Bethesda. The oldfags of the Beth forum got purged way before Skyrim was released (probably under Hines command, who showed his teeths during the time too), and noone gave a shit.
Todd is a fucking TOOL!!!
b86466 No.14912577
>>14912549
>Todd is a fucking TOOL
No shit. He has an idea for a stupid power-fantasy game. Gets handed a list of shit Zionmax wants in the game. Gets handed lies to say to make people like his garbage game.
Hines is just a PR goon to Zionmax and is tasked with defending their pathetic shit.
9f4b4a No.14912598
7e8783 No.14912640
>>14912598
>>14909551
https://archive.fo/4iqB3
It's not even that hard to check its validity. Same as it was several days ago.
53c38e No.14913065
>>14884147
They're all progressive as fuck when it comes to beyond skyrim, the big one that I remember though is the ones doing argonia. They heard argonians can have their gender changed by the Hist and decided to expand this into some argonians being genderfluid or some shit.
8d3b1a No.14913099
>>14884147
>>14913065
I think 3DNPCs is another one, uninstalled it when I figured out 95% of the added characters were fags and dykes.
4393d4 No.14913327
>>14883603
>Reminder nerds, Elder Scrolls Online is why you can't have mainline TES anymore
Who told you that? Stop making up bullshit to validate your own head canon.
>I want to know what you think about it and how it came that Elder Scrolls Online is so fucking popular right about now, that it blinded bethesda from even attempting mainline TES anymore
TESO is made by Zenimax Online and normal TES is made by Bethesda studio, TESO has 0 impact on singleplayer TES game being made, Bethesda is just milking Skyrim meme until EVERYONE gets sick of it.
Next TES singleplayer game will still happen and it will be Skyrim 2.0 but with more casual garbage and dumbing down + it will feature end of the world event, unless Bethesda story writers decided to change that?
>>14883728
once again TESO and TES are not connected to each other, different markets and different development teams, stop making bullshit up
8d3b1a No.14913381
>>14913327
>different markets
>implying a single-player tes game wouldn't create direct in-house competition
Zionmax is the department in charge of finances and share-holders, no way they'd jeopardize the life-span of that micro-transaction riddled garbage.
4393d4 No.14913407
>>14884211
>Apparently TESO has a tranny in the latest Summerset expansion
Proof?
>Haven't played it to confirm firsthand
So you are full of shit?
>There's already a lot of gay and bisexual NPCs in TESO that constantly remind your of their sexual leanings out of the blue
Proof? The only SJW type shit you could see in ESO is the argonian saying he doesnt feel right in his body and he wants to turn into a crocodile, after you complete the questline and go back to the inn you see other NPCs laughing and mocking at his wish being fullfilled because crocs are just dumb beasts and they have no connection to Hist.
I mean if you are gona shitpost about ESO atleast do some research and shitpost about things that are actually in the game, not making stuff up like a Polygon cuck and crying about imaginary things that arent there.
>>14909551
Once again TESO and TES have different development teams, Pete Hines prob never saw the inside of TESO development studios at all.
cdf064 No.14913419
>>14883632
I played Elder Scroll games since Morrowind and I play ESO.
I actually like it a lot better than most MMO's since it gives me freedom to build my character.
The story is not too bad, and theres a lot of lore inconsistencies, but it's improved a ton since beta and launch which was a fucking nightmare holy fuck that was incredibly bad and I can't believe I played it
I treat it as an offshoot/spinoff alternate universe where the Nevarine died after killing Dagoth Ur It's the only way I can justify Sotha Sil somehow still being alive, I mean wtf. In other words, completely non-cannon
I also enjoy how you're pretty much forced to be self-reliant in this game with the lack of auctionhouses and it also cut's down heavily on gold farmers I have yet to see a single god farmer chat-spam and makes the economy player controlled by making a guild and hiring out merchants.
The world also heavily encourages exploration and it's actually fun to do. Lore books to find which increases your Mages Guild reputation, delves which are mini-dungeons, and genuinely good looking environments to grind crafting nodes in which brings me to another thing…
Crafting is incredibly tedious unless you pay for membership which is a huge no-no to me, and with how huge crafting is, it becomes a major need to have the crafting bag unlocked otherwise your inventory slots will be quickly filled. On the upside, when you do pay for membership the crafting bag is shared across all characters, but that should be the reason to get membership and not to have a crafting supply bag in general.
If you do pay for membership, you also get the DLC with it. And if you have the DLC it makes stealth the best in any MMO.
Stealth is amazing in this game as long as you have either both Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild DLC or membership because it adds more tools to your belt. Thieves Guild will give you the entire area of Hew's Bane, a sprawling arabian-themed city where thieving is the main stay. Adding new mechanics such as mages with lanterns that'll clear your stealth, trespassing where you have to hide and sneak your way to big prizes and more features. Dark Brotherhood gives you access to a skill that should be a must in all MMO's with stealth: A way to instant-kill a non-boss enemy with backstabbing Which they give a lot of satisfying animations for. As long as it's not in a party dungeon and the target is humanoid it's a guaranteed instant-kill. Pickpocket an NPC and then stealth kill them for a major payday.
The housing system is incredibly robust, the best I've seen in any MMO. You can get any static object to put in your house whether you make your furniture, buy it, or fish it up/take it from a crafting node/pickpocket it. From there you can place it anywhere, rotate it any way, and even get an addon to fly around your estate to make it easier. However, you're going to need to grind serious coinage to get a decent house as the starting home is a very small and cramped room.
PVP gets crazy and really out of hand with all the different builds all over the place. Cyrodill has become a massive battleground with few safe areas, so you have to be careful exploring the place where there might be people ready to dive on you in delves and near towns. But when you join up with a good group that shows you the ropes you'll have a good time.
There is a P2W aspect, but it's not too extreme and if you buy anything that's non-cosmetic from the cash shop then you're a retard wasting cash. Most of the P2W stuff you can get by leveling up and doesn't make a huge difference in the long run.
The team working on the game currently actually seems to care about what they're doing now, improving content and combat as opposed to the first team who worked on this game which did a shit job at the start. Lets get this clear, the developer is Zenimax Online Studios, not Bethesda Game Studios. These guys tend to listen to problems with the game.
I still wouldn't recommend getting into this game if you can't divorce yourself from the mainline series, if you do, go grey market and get a CD key.
cdf064 No.14913421
>>14913419
Cont.
>>14913327
Pretty much everything in this post. Theres a lot of unfair judgement on the game and a lot outright false stuff. And yeah, Bethesda is being fucking ridiculous about Skyrim. I'm still salty that we haven't got Black Marsh since it was heavily hinted at in Oblivion with how much dialogue there was and the entrety of the Argonian Account when you manage to find all the books.
>>14913381
Theres Zenimax, then theres Zenimax Online Studios. Theres a major difference. As for "micro-transaction riddled garbage" unless you're buying cosmetics or houses If you're not willing to put your nose to the grind then you're a fucking retard when you can make better foods that have better bonuses, make better poisons and potions that have better bonuses, and when soul-stones are incredibly easy to get your hands on. Not to mention you can get these items by leveling up and stockpiling them.
00696c No.14913451
>>14913327
>TESO has 0 impact on singleplayer TES game being made
Market saturation, dunkass. There is no reason to release a new entry in a series while the previous one is still making good money and that's exactly what TESO is doing. Despite your protestations, TESO is effectively a main series TES game and as such Zenimax would be competing with itself if Bethesda released a new TES. Fallout is another story, as FO4 didn't have the staying power of Skyrim - hence the success of TESO precipitating the development of Fallout 76. They'll milk an online Fallout for a few years and then the next numbered TES will come around either when the revenues start to slip or when the 9th gen launches somewhere in ~2020.
4393d4 No.14913460
>>14913381
sometimes i wonder why i engage in conversation with retards such as you who think single player RPG and MOM RPG share markets, hell looking at it back now TESO did a free promotion for Skyrim every time they advertise their expansions/patches because people who didnt like MMO RPGs would just go buy Skyrim and play it instead. Skyrim playerbase didnt decrease because of TESO but increase because of constant promotion.
Also stop blaming everything on Zenimax, i have seen this cuck behaviour with other companies aswell like fags shifting blame to Activision instead of Blizzard or shifting blame to EA instead of Bioware for the games they released.
Bethesda will release next TES singleplayer game when everyone is sick of Bethesda milking Skyrim meme and that wont happen for another 2-3 years MINIMUM.
>>14913419
>I treat it as an offshoot/spinoff alternate universe where the Nevarine died after killing Dagoth Ur It's the only way I can justify Sotha Sil somehow still being alive, I mean wtf. In other words, completely non-cannon
TESO is set around 1000 years before the events of Skyrim so i dont see how its alternate universe when it could have happened in the past.
cdf064 No.14913559
>>14913460
Well that makes a bit of sense.
I must've got it confused since a couple of the factions refer to the 8 Divines as opposed to the 9 and with the big ass war happening and thought it was 200 years before Skyrim
1c89b9 No.14913591
>>14913407
I just typed gay npcs in TESO and the first resault directed me to bethesda's official forum. Kek! You nigger can stop crying for proof now and can fuck back to reddit with your abysmal spacing!
4393d4 No.14913975
>>14913591
>1 Aldmeri prostitute
>random generated NPCs in some small towns have chances of being spouses
You sure got me there Trianonfag, funny how you are projecting your reddit shit on others when you got caught in a lie, tell us more about stuff from ESO even tho you didnt play it at all.
1c89b9 No.14914158
>>14913975
I'm not the guy who made those calms, i just pointed out there are lefty shits in the game which you doubt. You fucking enormous faggot! And even after it was prove you still play dumb. You are a fucking bethesda-shill! Go be a nigger somewhere else! Leddit spacer fag.
cdf064 No.14914347
>>14914158
You know, for such a colossal faggot people'd think you'd be happy you have a gay prostitute for representation, not to mention a dirty knife-ear toucher.
You really can't satisfy the gays I guess
1c89b9 No.14914493
>>14914347
>so clueless he needs to make up the story with his fanfiction because to retarted to check the game present time
>you need to be happy to have gays
>nobody asked him, but white knighting on a fucking taiwanese image board
Holy shit, thats some serious fit in right there! Bravo!
cdf064 No.14914616
>>14914493
If you look up, you might see the joke fly over your head.
1c89b9 No.14914768
>>14914616
Fuck, sorry. But you are still a retard with the timeline, just like me with your post. Maybe i'm bigger.
cdf064 No.14915000
>>14914768
Fuck you I'm the biggest retard!
4dedf9 No.14924555
>>14884054
Why even bother with this drivel?
2b5e3d No.14925107
>>14885484
>For fuck's sake, there are people that believe oblivion is the best elder scrolls game now for some reason.
That's probably because it is.
8d38cf No.14925121
>Elder Scrolls Online is so fucking popular right about now
heh… no
>i don't want to shill
yea right
b3441b No.14928924
>>14914158
You are trying far too hard.
b066b1 No.14931213
>>14883603
>Maybe its even for the best we don't have it anymore. Nobody wants skyrim with even less skills and less quests.
I agree. But I just have a question.
Why all the ship captains in Elder Scrolls Online are women?
I didnt saw a male captain until now. Been playing for more than a hundred hours already.
If they wanted to put women in positions of power, to force some feminist agenda, they should at least let it be more balanced, not biased as that.
There is a mission in a island where the three pirate ship captains are all women. And when I got to Anvil, there was another pirate captain, also a woman.
All ship captains are women, incredible.
53c38e No.14931416
>>14883603
Why does that High Elf look like a human? High elves are yellow, and have far more elongated faces.
>>14885103
>>14885110
>no tactics
8bfaf5 No.14931443
>>14883603
Is the game actually popular? I thought it pretty much failed and became one of the million unsuccessful WoW clones with <100k subs.
53c38e No.14931451
>>14931443
its like guild wars now, just got to buy it, no sub. DOA.
fd4d11 No.14943698
>>14931416
>Why does that High Elf look like a human? High elves are yellow, and have far more elongated faces.
The guy who made TES Morrowind high elves and all creatures from every daedra to dremoras haven't worked in bethesda since Morrowind.
Mark Jones was a fucking randomly chosen freelancer back then.
b86466 No.14943717
>>14943698
Skyrim's elfs were still complete AYYYYYYYYYYYs too though. Its a Zionmax thing.
fd4d11 No.14943721
>>14943717
Skyrim just tried copy Mark Jones elves only because bethesda was in distress after backlash from oblivion facegen.
77f4e7 No.14960644
>>14883603
Elder Scrolls Blades just makes me sad, really. This interconnectivity they want is probably going to destroy the main charm of (old) Bethesda games: Moddability freedom.
77f4e7 No.14960672
>>14883603
Oh, just saw the end of the Bethesda conference, TES6 HAS been announced! It's just a small tease, however. Starfield same treatment.
425bab No.14961061
77f4e7 No.14961172
>>14961061
> A list of typical Bethesda bugs and oversights
> Used as proof of WTFBBQ representation blahblah
Typical. Weird though, Lady Nerevar is/was a pretty prolific modder and I never really saw anything weird or subversive in her work. Guess it takes a while for the poisoned water to addle the mind?
9abc08 No.14961433
8d3b1a No.14961558
>>14960644
I fucking called it, RIP in peace tes
>>14899213
ed48b7 No.14971736
>>14931416
I smell a trap…
2bebb5 No.14974209
>>14883603
TESO is popular? I thought it was a complete flop, dead, and on the verge of shutting down.