22739e No.14874026
Why aren't you playing a JRPG right now /v/?
If you are which one?
464b7f No.14874033
Is Japan even capable of making an actual RPG?
b76332 No.14874035
I'm playing with my dick right now if that counts.
c3437a No.14874042
>>14874026
I am burned on jrpgs after getting really bored with final fantasy games. I just hate story, characters, pacing and fucking everything in those games. Its trash you shouldn't get into ever.
12deac No.14874054
Because they bore me. It's an anime with grinding to get to the story parts. What's the friggin point?
f3afb9 No.14874057
because i'm a poorfag, and I don't like the idea of having one eye on a gameFAQs guide and the other on the game because all the good JRPGs are incredibly complex. Hell, even playing persona 5 I followed a guide religiously.
bd6632 No.14874058
>>14874026
>Why aren't you playing a JRPG right now /v/?
Because JRPGs are objectively awful
641748 No.14874060
JRPG is shit, even so called masterpieces like Chrono Triggered are shit by today's standards, they are just a bunch of cliche stories and grindy mechanics.
c3437a No.14874070
>>14874054
>It's an anime with grinding to get to the story parts
A bad anime at that too. With worst fucking story pacing just to make it as long as possible. You think you defeated final boss and may finally relax but NOPE THERE ARE ALSO 5 MORE BOSSES AND THE LAST ONE HAS LIKE 10 FORMS AND ALL OF THEM HAVE AOE THAT INSTAKILL PARTY UNLESS YOU KNOW THE TRICK SPELL TO COUNTER THAT
abf897 No.14874073
>>14874060
Those "masterpieces" where shit from the beginning with series like Ultima having games before them.
9ec750 No.14874111
OP why did you have to make such a low effort thread
I don't wanna make posts in a thread that might get bumplocked, deleted or just shitposted to oblivion like its getting now
couldn't you have at least said what JRPG you were playing yourself (assuming its Atelier) and why you are or aren't liking it?
5deb4e No.14874117
>>14874070
Man are you an IGN writer?
22739e No.14874118
>>14874033
That's a silly question.
>>14874042
Yeh that's a real issue for me. The time investment you've got to make in truly great JRPGs hurts.
d81617 No.14874123
Because they're absolute shit.
41b646 No.14874146
>>14874026
Why did she pee herself? I wonder what it smells like haha
f3afb9 No.14874156
>>14874146
no, it's just a crease.
41b646 No.14874158
>>14874156
A wet stinky crease.
bd6632 No.14874175
262995 No.14874179
>>14874026
Playing Bravely Second right now. Making very slow progress though.
68902a No.14874217
758fff No.14874845
Why do you faggots start threads with "why aren't you doing X' when you know that just attracts low effort shitposting every time.
000000 No.14876443
Is it better to buy Ys 8 or the new shining game?
cedff4 No.14876450
>>14874026
I've been playing Ni No Kuni 2. I enjoy it. It's cute.
865cd0 No.14876453
I haven't played a good JRPG in a long time. Any suggestions?
d076dc No.14876459
>>14876443
>Is it better to buy Ys 8
7d54e4 No.14876465
>>14874033
No developer can. Only table top gives you the freedom necessary for a real RPG.
e4d1e8 No.14876575
Why aren't you making bad shitposting threads right now /v/?
ccc4a4 No.14876958
>>14874179
I'm also playing Bravely Second. Nearing the end, I think. Certainly not as good as the first, but there have been some enjoyable parts.
7c8378 No.14876962
I'm playing through Disgaea 2 Dark Hero Days right now. It's been about 7 or 8 years since I played the first Disgaea on DS and loved it. I can't believe it took me this damn long to come back to Disgaea. I'm only on Chapter 5 of the main story, but I'm enjoying every damn minute of it. I've reincarnated all but two (well, three, but I don't count Tink. Fuck Tink.) of my party members. Pics-related are my party. I could reincarnate some of them already yet again, but I'm just waiting for their next tier of classes before doing so. I haven't even bothered in the least with the Felony stuff beyond the one time it requires you to. I haven't bothered with Item World yet either. I hope Disgaea 3 Absence of Detention lives up to these first two games.
I had a huge backlog, but I went through and cut out a lot of shit I didn't deem to be "absolutely must-play" games. These are the JRPGs still in my backlog:
> Atelier Dusk Trilogy (already beat Ayesha+, but it's been a while so it warrants a replay. E&L+ I also own, but never touched. Shallie I never owned at all.)
> Atelier Mysterious Trilogy (I already own Sophie)
> Wild Arms
> Breath of Fire III
> Breath of Fire IV
> Phantasy Star IV
> Ys VI Ark of Napishtim
> Ys Seven
> Ys Memories of Celceta
> Lost Odyssey
> SMT Digital Devil Saga 1 & 2
> Grandia II
> Skies of Arcadia Legends
> Disgaea 3 Absence of Detention
> Suikoden II
> Vagrant Story
> Tactics Ogre: LUCT
> Final Fantasy V
> Final Fantasy VI
> Final Fantasy XII
> Okage Shadow King
> Rogue Galaxy
> Star Ocean First Departure
> Star Ocean Second Evolution
> Dragon Quest 1 - 8
> LoH Trails in the Sky SC
> LoH Trails in the Sky the 3rd
> LoH Trails of Cold Steel 1 & 2
> Soul Nomad
> Azure Dreams
> Brave Story New Traveler
The absolute worst part about this is while these are most of my backlog, I've got about 15 or so other non-RPG games in it.
I also work full-timeplease fucking kill me I'll never beat all these and fully enjoy them
41b646 No.14880717
>>14874033
Yes they're called JRPGs.
aa3c27 No.14880970
>>14874026
I was until a few weeks ago. I was playing Trails in the Sky SC and really enjoying it but then I reached fucking chapter 8 and they expect me to go around the entire world map again. The first two thirds of this game was already recycling most of the areas from the first game so this is now the third time that I have to go to all these places and I just can't fucking be bothered. I should probably just power through it before I completely forget everything.
Does anyone know if 3rd chapter re-uses the same map again? Because I really like these games but I do not want to play what is basically the same game three times.
>>14876962
>He thinks that's a big backlog
How naive you are.
I've pretty much accepted that I'm never going to be able to play all the games I'd like to, and now I just play whatever I feel like at the time without thinking about what I "should" be playing.
72907c No.14881072
>>14876962
Well, let's start with the obvious:
>Skies of Arcadia Legends
You need to play this. It's the good shit. It's got problems, and there's a lot in it that makes parts of it maybe not as good as parts of other games, but when it's good it's great. It's the one game on the list I can unambiguously tell that you will enjoy it.
>Vagrant Story
Since you're enjoying Disgaea I think you'll probably enjoy Vagrant Story. Not because it's cute or funny, but because it is a massive number-cruncher of a game.
>Rogue Galaxy
Rogue Galaxy is a Level 5 game, and Level 5 games are a very specific sort of experience. So if you're not in the mood to play a Level 5 game, you're probably not going to enjoy Rogue Galaxy.
The only Level 5 game that I've played that isn't a complete Level 5 game is Dragon Quest 8, in case you were curious.
>Grandia 2
Perfectly good game, but I would recommend find Grandia 1 as well. Grandia 2 is basically just a remake of Grandia 1's disc 2, covering many of the same beats.
You can skip Grandia 3, though. The battle system is refined and fun, and the ability system is great, but the actual game itself is pretty terrible.
84a050 No.14881104
Phantasy Star 4. Again. And it is always great.
84a050 No.14881109
>>14874070
That is exactly what makes them all fun and better than anything that western/marxist devs create.
9ec750 No.14881111
>>14876443
You a special kind of retard or what?
18904b No.14881122
>>14876962
I am telling you in advance, backlogs are never finished. You will give up on it eventually. Prioritize best games and play only what you want to actually play. You especially cannot create backlogs of games longer than 20 hours, you will get burned withing 2-5 titles of marathoning one of those after another. Eventually you start dropping without completing. If you won't be able to switch and remove stuff from your backlog effectively, and combine different genres and not focusing on rpgs alone, you will end up hating whole genre and looking back at spent time like wasted. You cannot manage a hobby like you manage a job, the desire to do it will just fall apart since you won't be rewarded with dopamine anymore like starting a game after months of not playing anything. And certainly jrpgs are not "andrenaline boosting" kind of entertainment, so you won't be able to hold the feeling on sense of suspense and gameplay alone like you would play arena shooters or starcraft for hours upon hours non-stop.
If you play what you "require" from yourself to play, you will never learn how to play for enjoyment.
9ec750 No.14881130
>>14880970
3rd chapter reuses almost nothing. Its a very unusual game.
And I understand the feel but tank through it. You can make it in a long sitting if you go hard enough and its so fucking worth it. Its rare that I experience such an emotional high from anything like I did from the ending of that game. Despite its numerous flaws I can't give it any lower than 10/10
f36f01 No.14881136
I am playing a JRPG right now.
f27fe1 No.14881151
f99bd3 No.14881156
Any good jRPG romhacks that have a new campaign?
72907c No.14881163
>>14874026
>Why aren't you playing a JRPG right now
I'm actually trying to make one in RPG Maker VX Ace. It's pretty cool, actually – I was able to Frankenstein a bunch of scripts together to create a pretty fun ability system.
>Class/Job-based system
>In addition to Jobs, you can equip skills that you've learned
>Equip skill that lets you use Healing Magic regardless of class
>Equip skill that lets you discover secrets on the map
>Add commands in battle
>Equip skill that gives you bonuses to your stats when you level up
And it all works, too. You'll also gain more skill slots of you level up. You start with 3, but by level 49 you'll have 10 per character.
Story-wise I'm going for an Arc the Lad/Trails in the Sky sort of game, in which you're part of a guild and you take on quests.
aa3c27 No.14881173
>>14881130
Alright thanks anon, I'll continue with it one I'm finished with Arcanum which is fuking excellent but since it's a WRPG I won't discuss it in this thread.
And you're right about the emotional high. I rarely get emotionally invested in a video game but SC has had me feeling things throughout.
7f7b4e No.14881179
>>14874026
Literally fucking sophie, what the hell OP, how'd you read my mind?
cad520 No.14881180
>>14881163
Are there dual techs?
18904b No.14881191
>>14881156
Mario Is A Drug Addict for Super Mario RPG is bretty good.
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/757/
f36f01 No.14881195
>>14881111
>1488
>111
I think these digits deserve some recognition
aa3c27 No.14881216
>>14881163
>RPG Maker
>Non-lewd
I don't understand.
Looks good though, I like a complex class/skill system.
30b000 No.14881223
>>14881163
>skills that increase your stat growth
What is mandatory equipped skills
ece36d No.14881288
>>14874026
i have been playing Final Fantasy Tactics advance 2, so far it seems like kiddy shit,
5917b6 No.14881307
Because most if not all JRPGs are "Localized" and I refuse to eat garbage.
3dd611 No.14881310
>>14881111
holy fuck those digits
0885e1 No.14881398
>>14876962
>I hope Disgaea 3 Absence of Detention lives up to these first two games.
You poor, poor soul.
Play it anyways but it's probably the worst of the series. D2 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 3 (Never played 4)
3ff6a2 No.14881578
Just gave up on 7th Dragon 2020 because it was boring. I'm a couple hours into Valkyria Chronicles 3 Extra Edition. So far the story and characters are much more engaging. I haven't played VC 1 or 2
43a253 No.14881654
>>14874033
No. The Nips are soulless meat robots who do not understand free will.
a733a3 No.14881947
>>14881398
>Play it anyways but it's probably the worst of the series. D2 > 5 > 2 > 1 > 3 (Never played 4)
For real though, 2 is probably the highlight of that series. After that, it descended into dlc hell.
274017 No.14882152
>>14880970
> making this into a dickbacklog measuring contest
shiggy diggy
>>14881072
I see, I'm going reorder the list by prioritization later, my plan is to play one RPG and one Action game alongside one another to avoid burnout. I'll keep in mind those four to be bumped in priority, thanks anon.
> Rogue Galaxy is a Level 5 game
i've never played anything by Level 5, so I suppose when I get to RG I'll see.
> would recommend Grandia 1 as well
sure thing
>>14881122
> Prioritize best games and play only what you want to actually play
that's what this list is for, because I know I'll never finish my actual backlog. Again, those are just the RPGs on the list anyway, that isn't the entire, refined list.
> If you play what you "require" from yourself to play, you will never learn how to play for enjoyment.
these are just the ones that looked the most fun to me. And sure, I know I won't be knocking them out one after another after another in succession as I'd like to, but this refined list will keep from from just scrolling through the larger backlog later and moping about having nothing to play. For some reason, when there's fewer options, I feel like there's more to play.
>>14881398
what's wrong with 3? I know it had the DLC fuckery on PS3, but the copy I have is the Vita version that includes all the PS3 DLC stuff. If I wind up liking 3 well-enough I'll pick up the Vita version of 4 as well; since it's the same way having all the DLC.
And wasn't D2 the one that had a CPU melting bug?
10691d No.14882633
I was playing Fatal Labyrinth earlier. Does that count?
9d425b No.14882717
>>14874026
I stopped playing Sophie because I got stuck after the book gets her doll body. I know book/doll is supposed to be a playable character, but the event is "stuck." I also can't do alchemy or explore because I need to get ingredients from places that aren't unlocked. I got sick of trying to get event RNG(?) to cooperate and I haven't been able to find the will to pick it back up. Are all the Atelier games like this? I like the cute girls and the comfy atmosphere but the randomness of events tied to progress seems annoying.
9d425b No.14882722
>>14876962
I have come to the conclusion that I'll never be able to play all the games I want to unless I can somehow obtain a sustainable NEET life.
3f4def No.14882742
>>14882152
>whats wrong with 3?
The story in Disgaea 3 is horrid compared to the rest of the series, It falls flat at being disgaea and doesn't even make it to be mediocre story in any regard.
The Game-play is fine though and allows for breaking the game faster than ever before with Puppy Paw Stick item cloning.
The Vita version gives Generic humaniods their own unique abilities as well.
If you're going to be trying to kill Baal or Land of Carnage PPS will take you places really REALLY fast.
Disgaea 4's story was such a pallet cleaner after 3 though. Probably the closest the series has come to having a great story like the first one again.
As for the Vita versions of them, they're straight upgrades over the PS3 versions last I remember.
03fe38 No.14882818
Xenoblade 2, about 40 hours in, really enjoying it, thought it was shit for the first 10 hours
Pokemon Red for the 100000th time I have a retroachievements account
Pokemon Sun via citra, played it twice on 3ds but never got further than the fourth trial. It's running kind of shit because I've an AMD graphics card.
That's it for now. Considering starting up a Shin Megami Tensei game
195ca9 No.14882885
Why is there even such a thing as W and J RPGs? And why are each of them so persistent on embodying the same weaknesses and strengths 90% of the time?
You have JRPGs with simple lore but interesting presentation, unique aesthetics, shitty combat systems but cool spells, cringy dialogue etc most of the time
You have WRPGs with deep, complex lore but boring as fuck presentation, overused fantasy aesthetics, better combat systems but dull stereotypical spells, much better dialogue etc.
Why can't people just encapsulate the exciting storytelling and cool worldbuilding of a JRPG with the deep history and non autistic dialogue of a WRPG? WHY DOES THIS DICHOTOMY EVEN EXIST???
025916 No.14882909
>>14881307
>Not playing in japanese
Wew
d08711 No.14882921
There isn't anything thats a bigger waste of time on earth than playing a JRPG. The games aren't fun or interesting, and no the stories are not good. They are awful and go nowhere. They're designed for autistic asians as like a paint by numbers or jigsaw puzzle type of thing. They're not like those classic western rpgs that are so fun to explore you can't get away from them. Exploration and world interactivity is minimal to put it kindly. Sure there are some exceptions from westaboo devs but that's not what people mean when they say JRPG.
03fe38 No.14882923
>>14882921
>waste of time
so if a person enjoys them for whatever reason, it's a waste of time? thanks for clarifying anon
PS you're fucking retarded
bd36ac No.14882930
I'm playing Persona 4 for the first time.
Though i'm neglecting it nowadays.
d08711 No.14882932
>>14882923
Do they really enjoy the game or do staring blankly and fidgeting with menus for while
87b51d No.14883030
>>14876962
honestly, DQ I-III, and Final Fantasy V and VI shouldn't take you all that long to beat if you just want to start knockin some shit off of your list.
>>14881136
I can't think of a more overwhelmingly mediocre title.
>>14874026
I'm debating starting FF8 or FFXII
72d9af No.14883052
>>14883030
>FF8
That's weird one, even for FF standards.
Don't grind levels, farm spells to junction them/AP to unlock utility skills.
>FFXII
Single player MMO.
Very slow in original version without speed boost.
Otherwise it isn't hard, unless you go fight optional bosses and three superbosses.
>overwhelmingly mediocre title
They kind of ran out of money for disc 2, so it does make sense.
87b51d No.14883091
>>14883052
yea even before disc 2 it had issues. the combat system seemed intriguing at first but it really isn't. even by typical jrpg standards there is a TON of dialogue at the end of each little section , pretty high encounter rate with awful load times and not a lot of enemy variety in each section. the mechs weren't all that different from the regular fighting outside of fuel management and that only really matters twice throughout the game and it was their one big gimmick and I feel like they could have done more to differentiate the mech fighting from the normal fighting.
3f4def No.14883184
>>14883052
As much as FF8 isint like the rest of the series I honestly love it for how different it is, but also how you can break it in mere minutes from starting the game by just rushing to get card so you don't have to level up.
Then the shitfest of bullshit power creep begins where after playing a children's card game with everyone in a hick town you turn the cards into a random assortment of garbage then into pure magic and slap them on your characters so they have stupid stats, and this is just the first hour or so of gameplay.
Fucking Magical if you know what your doing, otherwise it's just kind of a mediocre experience all the way through
I dunno what it is but any game that lets me pick it apart at the seams and break it and bend it to my will feels great.
And im going through FF11's story again it saddens me people haven't seen the story in this game considering how well it's written and presented. Id go as far as to say it's one of the best in the series just on the writing alone.
a5926f No.14883224
>>14882885
>WHY DOES THIS DICHOTOMY EVEN EXIST???
Even without the regional descriptor you would notice a difference in these games for the same reason other identical genres tend to articulate in different ways between cultures. Simply put what sells well in japan isn't what will sell well in America so those markets adapt to their primary audience. This isn't to say that all japanese or western RPG's are going to conform to one template.
72d9af No.14883373
>>14883091
>the mechs weren't all that different from the regular fighting outside of fuel management and that only really matters twice throughout the game and it was their one big gimmick and I feel like they could have done more to differentiate the mech fighting from the normal fighting.
It really seems it was waste.
Also mechs weren't much different anyway.
>>14883184
>As much as FF8 isn't like the rest of the series I honestly love it for how different it is, but also how you can break it in mere minutes from starting the game by just rushing to get card so you don't have to level up.
I never bothered with that card game, it felt kind of cheap for me.
>Then the shitfest of bullshit power creep begins where after playing a children's card game with everyone in a hick town you turn the cards into a random assortment of garbage then into pure magic and slap them on your characters so they have stupid stats, and this is just the first hour or so of gameplay.
I prefer to wait until you get 10 wizard stones to change them into -ga spells to boost strength.
It carried me through almost three discs in this game.
>Fucking Magical if you know what your doing, otherwise it's just kind of a mediocre experience all the way through
I know, my patience for it ran out and I stopped playing it on Disc 3. Shortly before moon.
>FF11's story again it saddens me people haven't seen the story in this game considering how well it's written and presented. Id go as far as to say it's one of the best in the series just on the writing alone.
It's MMO and I never touched this from that reason. Also I suck at multiplayer games.
26e971 No.14883394
>>14881072
Not a remake, an adaptation. Remake implies it's the same story with some tweaks and changes. Adaptation uses the same narrative in a different setting. Grandia 2 is the darker and edgier adaptation of Grandia 1. The characters are different, but they all fit into the same roles right down to the winged sisters.
4b1006 No.14883743
>>14874179
>play bravely default
>oh boy, a new asterisk! I wonder what the (((player version))) is like!
>oh boy, a side quest! I wonder what asterisks I'll get from that!
>oh man, some of these jobs are really neat. I wonder what ability I'll get next if I level it up again?
<play bravely second
<Oh! New asterisks that weren't in the game before. Oh… it's not as exciting is it?
<Oh, side quests. Maybe I'll get better asterisks there!
<Oh… They're the asterisks from the previous game, and you can only choose between two
<the asterisk I want means to side with the train of thought I just don't agree with. What to do?
<At least I know straight away if leveling a job will be worth my time. Too bad I don't like most of what I see to come, and there aren't enough job combinations interesting enough to me to make me want to drop freelancer on one of my guys for the examine ability.
Does anyone else share this feel?
I also have an issue with the moonbase that took place of norende. In norende, you could get all the things up to level 10, and then a bonus level for something extra good, like alternate costumes for your party. That's not present in the moonbase. Another goodie from a full norende is the exp/jp bracelets and the pg bracelet. Because of my slow playing pace, I unlocked these very early on and was able to buy them with a little bit of grind near the start. Once I put them on, it's like the troubles of grinding for levels magically disappeared, and if you set the encounter rate high enough, you could easily become overleveled by just running to and from objectives and searching the map for treasure. Since this is gone in Bravely Second, I had to resort to setting the encounter rate to +100%, but I'm not getting any where close to feeling like I'm riding the exp/jp curve as nicely as I did in Bravely Default. The increased rate also means I'm making a lot more trips back to an inn instead of reaching quest markers. When I look at the difficulty setting, it says easy, normal, and hard all award the same amount of exp/jp/pg. If that's the case, then easy is the compromise of journos wanting the "skip combat" button and hard is the "it's not like have something better to do with your time, so grind for another 4 hours before you reach the next objective" button. I don't remember if difficulty was like this in Bravely Default (probably because I didn't go looking to ease the grind). But the best thing about Bravely Default having those bracelets was towards the end. Those who've reached it know what I'm talking about. On the last few cycles, I had already reached max level and maxed out all the jobs on all the characters, and it was like the game reached a perfect balance. Even better was that towards the end when you have to fight all the bosses, 4v4, based on a theme between them, I had absolute fun theory crafting and testing out all sorts of loadouts to eventually get through that ordeal. My only issue was that on the very last cycle you had to do it again, except you couldn't change loadouts in between the 4v4s. I'll admit, I gave up on that shit and just went to finish the game but I had my fill at that point anyway
I'm still not that deep into Bravely Second, but the enthusiasm I had with the first game just isn't present, so I'm making progress at a snail's pace.
I'm thinking about swallowing my pride and setting the difficulty to easy and then doing a bunch of back-to-back 1 turn fights to make up for the lack of the exp/jp accessory. Then keep trying normal again until it feels like I'm on the same curve that I was on Bravely Default. Should I do that, or does this problem correct itself down the line?
4b1006 No.14883765
>>14883743
oh forgot to mention.
default has:
>Edea Lee
>Mahzer Lee
>Braev Lee
second has:
>a frog from the moon
>frogspeak from a moonman
>baal buster
>they literally say something like "let's bust some baals!"
mfw all of this
3dd611 No.14885358
>>14882921
>general sweeping comment #51432
thanks for your input!
5e8a2f No.14885732
Currently playing Stella Glow. It started off slow at first, but it just kept getting better and better without losing any momentum especially once you find out Klaus is actually a traitor who tricked you into starting the apocalypse.
Also, Hilda did absolutely nothing wrong.
f27fe1 No.14885757
>>14882885
>Why can't people just encapsulate the exciting storytelling and cool worldbuilding of a JRPG with the deep history and non autistic dialogue of a WRPG?
You mean like Anachronox?
3f4def No.14885782
>>14883373
>It's MMO
>I suck at multiplayer games
Good news for you then Anon since basically the entire game can be done with NPC helpers. You dont even need to interact with other players to be honest if you are going for just the Missions since you out can out gear and out level the areas before you go to them.
The entry level gear at 99 is more than enough to clear basically all of them on your own.
f27fe1 No.14885783
3dd611 No.14885879
>>14885732
Except she didn't feel the need to explain anything to the protagonist, which is waved off as "would you have believed me?" in the later dialogue. Though her ending is good enough to make up for it.
274017 No.14885966
>>14882742
> story is the worst of the disgaea series
ah yeah, MC is just angsty teen "i hate my dad" isn't he? What I saw from the trailers it looked like they were trying to make him into some sort of Laharl 2.0 but edgier
> game breaking item cloning
eh, that's easy for me to ignore, though looking in the wiki, that's some ultra post-game shit anyway though.
> The Vita version gives Generic humaniods their own unique abilities as wel
that's neat though
> Disgaea 4's story was such a pallet cleaner
so D4 is pretty great then? I'm glad to hear it.
e97a22 No.14887096
>>14883394
So you can skip right to 2?
72907c No.14888360
>>14887096
No, Grandia 1 and Grandia 2 are two separate stories set in two separate worlds. They have no real connection to one another other than recurring spells and monsters – similar to Final Fantasy.
What we're saying is that Grandia 2 feels very derivative of the second half of Grandia 1. It covers many of the same story beats, the plot feels very similar, the character arcs, etc.
It's like if there was a sequel to Lord of the Rings starring Frito Plaggins, and he has to destroy the One Bracelet, and the story started while he was already in Mordor.
c48421 No.14888457
>Why aren't you playing a JRPG right now /v/?
Because they're weebshit with babby's first turn based combat.
I like anime mind you but you retarded fucks have to get the fuck out, you're actively dragging quality down and you have already dragged it below acceptable levels 10 years ago. You've done more damage than car guys did to car games.
6ca672 No.14888465
>>14885732
This game really surprised me. I thought it was mediocre at first but it got really good. Hilda is best witch and you are correct, she dindunuffin.
23fe8f No.14888744
>>14888457
> complaining about weeb-related anything on an imageboard
Here's your (You), now shoo goblin.
22a5bb No.14889122
What JRPGs have some fun combat/gameplay?
9ac1af No.14889154
>>14888457
*dabs on your prancing candy ass*
22a5bb No.14889174
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>>14880970
>Trails SC
Should you stick through Chapter 8 you'll be rewarded with the final chapter, a chapter probably longer than Chapters 7,6 and 5 combined, in a completely new area(and a recycled Glorious).
>The Third
It's more "remixes" of places than reusing them, for example the castle in Grancel is now all dark and filled with spooky ghosts, and the Glorious is now given a black paint job. It's a pretty straightforward, kind of linear game, likened to Ys Origins where you're "climbing" a mysterious "tower" and you go from familiar images to new areas.
It also has some really kickass final dungeon music, as well as kickass final dungeon in general. FC and to an extent SC's final dungeons felt really dragged out and boring but The 3rd builds it up really well and this music is just great. Plus it has a neat gimmick and the final boss is neat too.
9ec750 No.14889283
>>14888457
Give examples of anime you like and anime games that were "above acceptable levels" to you then.
58cb3e No.14890918
can't play gothic 2 a visual crash keeps corrupting my save
could you recommend a challenging jrpg that I could play on PC right now
4b8fa5 No.14896082
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>>14885732
Toushin Toshi by Imageepoch is great too. Stella Glow is made by Imageepoch. It's shame all good studios died.
4b8fa5 No.14896088
971b80 No.14896105
gave up rpgs, eastern and western, I'd rather read my novels and comic books, better written stories and more engaging stories. rpgs have shit gameplay.
I don't wanna twaddle around doing fetch quests and talking to dumb NPCs for 40hours just to get a paper-thin, story that amounts to 30minutes of actual reading and content.
ill stick to action games, platformers, shmups, etc
da9c3c No.14896140
Recommend me JRPGs with a post-apoc atmosphere like Digital Devil Saga.
4f2e7d No.14896187
>>14885732
The problem with Stella Glow, the really big problem, is that it's incredibly slow. The actual strategy gameplay moves so incredibly slowly. Fire Emblem Awakening is another tactical JRPG for the same system that shows how to make the gameplay fast, simply by speeding up the slow, slow, slow animations that Stella Glow doesn't let you skip. As stated, Hilda is best witch and has a perfect body. It gets bonus points for being able to smugly tell the bitchy girl that you're a masochist and thus not affected when she's just throwing insults at you, even if it doesn't affect anything but the one or two lines of dialogue she gives in response.
5af689 No.14896278
I need to play one of mine since they're all starting to pile up. My PS2 is being retarded though, so I will have to borrow one of my cousins' when I can.
>>14876962
Play Wild Arms next anon.
339f88 No.14896874
>>14874026
it turns out, I only ever liked a handful of Square RPGs and Dragon Warrior. almost every other JRPG I've hated
e7140e No.14899615
>>14888457
>ywn be this butthurt about japanese video games
6eebd0 No.14899803
>>14889174
I see you are a man of taste as well the arranged version really knocks that track out of the park though.
The last Final Fantasy I could stomach was 12 and it was butchered by SE executives. Level 5 is the definition is mediocre everything they make is a solid pass same with Tri Ace which has not been good since the ps1 era.
The only JRPG's I play anymore are by Falcom but even they can be inconsistent since they may chase cheap money see Tokyo Xanadu.
dc3b6d No.14899900
>>14882885
>WRPGS have better combat than JRPGs
Not always. They're usually deeper and more complex, but that doesn't always mean better. The problem with complex combat systems in RPGs is that you're eventually going to get to a point where you've figured out the best tactic to beat every type of enemy/enemy party you come across, at which point each fight just becomes a matter of going through the motions. Even when you encounter a new enemy it rarely takes more than one fight with them to figure out how to beat them as quickly and efficiently as possible. RPGs with simple combat systems have this problem too, but because they're so simple the fights go by much more faster. With complex battle systems, fights much longer and you're just doing the same attacks, casting the same spells and attacking the same areas over and over again. It's tedious as fuck. I'm not against deep and complex combat; I'm just saying they have their disadvantages.
That being said, a lot WRPGs don't even have good combat despite being deeper. No JRPG has combat as good as, say, the Wizardry games or Temple of the Elemental Evil, but most of them have combat superior to what's found in games like Planescape Torment, Arcanum and Toddgames©®™✡.
c26071 No.14899931
>>14883030
>FFXII
unironically my favorite FF since IV. Pirate the zodiac version, it's got quality of life changes that are absolutely critical to enjoying it
025916 No.14900122
>>14899931
What about the recent pc version? I haven't played XII
c26071 No.14900131
>>14900122
the "recent" pc/ps4 versions are the international zodiac version that has been available/pirateable on ps2 for years now. trust me when i say just pirate/emulate them. if you have a PC that can run the native PC version you have a PC powerful enough to emulate it at a higher resolution
39ec2c No.14901315
>>14876962
>LoH Trails of Cold Steel 1 & 2
Only play these if you have a very high tolerance for Otaku bait. The characters are all stock shounen and harem cliches, it takes a long time before the combat gets interesting, and the entire first game is just a drawn out prologue for the second. I like them in spite of these things, but they are not by any means standout or essential games in the genre.
87b51d No.14902337
just heard about pic related? anyone know anything about it? might give it a spin.
8e84af No.14902368
I don't have the space or equipment for a good PS3 setup. Maybe one day I'll get a new monitor with built-in speakers.
bad634 No.14902377
dc3b6d No.14903093
>>14902337
It's pretty good. I think there was a remake of it for the PSP so you might look into playing that version instead.
9ec750 No.14903127
>>14902337
anything published by Atlus before 2012 or so tends to be good to great
0f2176 No.14913533
Found out recently that Atelier Lydie and Suelle got a fitgirl pack so now I'm on that. Only past the intro after the painted world so far.
b47e0b No.14913907
Because JRPG might as well stand for junior RPG, they are all simplified to hell.
b47e0b No.14913990
>>14913973
>if you are a weeb you must be halfchan
Bad news newfag, imageboards started in Japan and have always been full of weebs.
I hate JRPGs but I'm not stupid enough to think those that do like them must be an uneducated immigrant like yourself.
39e9a0 No.14914038
Does Nioh count? I'm playing that and grinding revenants for the waifu transformations, those fucking nips made them far more expensive than the male ones, the fuckers know their audience.
357665 No.14914092
Trying Persona 5 it's alright but the severe lack of teacher-fucking is leaving an itch I need to scratch. Thinking of loading up Legend of Mana again but then I remember those ruins. Fucking hate the ruins. That being said, I wouldn't mind something similar to Legend of Mana in how the world feels and is styled, but with maybe a bit more emphasis on exploration. I really felt that LoM's world was so interesting but since everything was sort of broken up into stages I didn't get a chance to really check it out.
b7bcdf No.14914330
I did some reading up on other NIS titles and holy shit I can't believe I'd glossed these over in the past.
> Makai Kingdom
> Phantom Brave
> Soul Nomad
> GrimGrimoire
> Zettai Hero Project
> La Pucelle Tactics
They all look so damn fun. I will have to put all these on my list now.
>>14882722
That's the only way I see it happening myself. Of course, "sustainable" and "NEET" don't really go hand-in-hand at all unless you get NEETbux or won the lottery.
>>14883030
Thanks for the suggestions amigo, I might bump those up in priority then, if they're that short.
>>14896278
that's my plan after Disgaea 2.
>>14901315
Well I really enjoyed Trails in the Sky FC and also what I've already played of Trails in the Sky SC. I feel obligated in a way to play through the rest of SC, all of TitS the 3rd, and the Cold Steel games.
> and the entire first game is just a drawn out prologue for the second
Ah I see, I was unaware. So it'll be kind of like a less eventful version of Trails FC.
357665 No.14914700
>>14914330
>Phantom Brave
that, and Grim Grimoire are great games.
f6613c No.14914767
>>14914330
Phantom Brave and Makai Kingdom are grind heaven, the roof for grinding in that game is so goddamn high; Phantom Brave you grind your units and their items and the abilities on the characters and on the items its insane.
b7bcdf No.14914876
>>14914700
great to hear. I know GrimGrimoire is also co-developed by Vanillaware, which gets me pretty excited.
>>14914767
That's what I like to hear as long as it's fun grinding
5535cd No.14915866
>>14914330
La Pucelle Tacticts was pretty boring for me. But out of all those I did beat GrimGrimoire and ZHP. Loved ZHP and it had 2 spiritual successors. The Guided Fate Paradox and The Guided Fate Ultimatum. GFP improves on some things in ZHP and is pretty damn hard at times (stage 3 boss and final boss are hell). Yet I found it no where near as charming as ZHP. Avoid GFU. It butchers the gameplay to Mystery Dungeon tier while having a worse story. Also buy anything NISA related used if you can't emulate.
7031ad No.14915875
>>14914330
Makai Kingdom has had its extended PSP port (Phantom Kingdom Portable) fan-translated, as has La Pucelle (La Pucelle: Ragnarok). Not sure if the latter manages to undo the censorship Mastiff did to the PS2 version.
6c1f15 No.14916015
>>14915866
Oh I wasn't aware there was anything beyond ZHP
> Avoid GFU. It butchers the gameplay to Mystery Dungeon tier while having a worse story.
a shame
> Also buy anything NISA related used if you can't emulate.
but of course! I'd never give NISA money in [current year]
>>14915875
wasn't Ragnarok a japanese-only release though? What got censored anyway?
7031ad No.14916071
>>14916015
I was saying both extended versions got English patches, though I assume the ported content from the PS2 originals just uses script rips instead of ground up translation (which would have to be done for new content).
>What got censored anyway?
>[La Pucelle Tactics] was released in North America with nearly every cross removed, included those on Prier and Alouette's clothing; the shape of Croix's gun and the spell animations (except holy panels) were altered. The Dark World was originally hell. Croix's cigarette was removed from his character portraits and sprites. Mastiff explained the changes in an interview with 1UP.com before the game's release; according to Bill Schwarz of the company, "There are well organized forces that work hard to punish software makers and sellers for what they consider religious transgressions. As a very small and brand new publisher without deep pockets we need to pick and choose our battles. Had we thought the crosses were meaningful we would have fought. But they weren't. And we'd much rather have the game widely available then face disappointed gamers who cannot find the title. It was the right decision, though as we grow as company we may make different calls in the future."
6c1f15 No.14916220
>>14916071
> both
Ahhh okay, i gotcha now.
> censoring crosses and cigarettes
fuckin wew
7031ad No.14916290
>>14916220
Funny thing is that Shadow Hearts II came west the same year (as Shadow Hearts: Covenant) without apparently attracting the so-call "well organized forces" to punish it for not showing the Catholic church in the best light (which isn't to say the church in the series is evil, more that a number of the visible members the player does encounter aren't especially good). Then again, Midway wasn't exactly a new publisher by the PS2 era, assuming (((Schwarz))) was telling the truth.
dc3b6d No.14916327
>>14914330
>So it'll be kind of like a less eventful version of Trails FC
More like a cross between Trails FC and Persona.
79eaab No.14916396
>>14874026
I'm waiting until I can get my hands on Persona 2.
7031ad No.14916947
>>14916396
Hope you aren't thinking a physical copy of EP PS1. That shit's stupid expensive these days, on par with the likes of Suikoden II and Tales of Eternia.
6c1f15 No.14917392
>>14916290
> "well organized forces"
> (((Schwarz)))
really activates my almonds
>>14916327
Oh i see. That doesn't sound too bad.
7031ad No.14918451
>>14917392
Think I also heard Mastiff censored some visuals from Gurumin (that being from the era before Falcom made a deal with XSEED, resulting in stuff like Mastiff getting Gurumin, Bamco horribly machine translating LoH III-V, and Konami handling Ys VI), but being that the game was originally a PC release in Japan that subsequently got ported to the PSP, and that being the version brought west at the time, changes might have been inherent to the Japanese PSP version as well if it was meant as an "all ages" suited release (the way eroge gets non-pornographic console versions at times). Granted, I'm not personally certain what the case is, and at the same time I highly doubt the Steam release they put out is apt to be more risque to match the JP original, at least without fan-made patches or something.
8322fd No.14918461
I'm actually not playing a JRPG right now, because I'm too busy with Baldur's Gate, but I'm thinking about coming back to Nocturne after I finish it, or maybe something more light-hearted for a change. I actually would love to play some animu sci-fi JRPG with mystery elements. The new Digimon games looked cool for that but I would have to play the previous entries first, any recommendations?
5ea6b3 No.14918639
Does the Megaman Starforce series count as a JRPG?
I think im nearly halfway through by now.
3c857a No.14918840
i'm playing alliance alive, made by the guys who did legend of legacy. it's much more polished and complete feeling.
11b698 No.14918858
>>14883765
>mention all of this
>don't mention coup de gravy
Still want to fucking kill myself from that shit
3c857a No.14918868
>>14918451
the english gurumin release on steam didn't censor the naked savepoint thing, i'm not sure how much else was changed.
the release was buggy and the game still suffers from some save file related crashes that make 100% completion impossible (in happy mode anyway).
6c26be No.14920354
>>14918461
>The new Digimon games looked cool for that but I would have to play the previous entries first, any recommendations?
If you're talking about the Digimon Story games most of them are largely self contained.
You can skip the first few games unless you specifically want to play them for their stories as Cyber Sleuth/Hacker's Memory aren't related to them other than the battle system.
I also recommend that unless you need them to be portable you should play them on the PS4 instead of the Vita because there are slight slowdowns on the Vita.
>>14918868
Didn't Gurumin launch on Steam during the Greenlight garbage and they bribed everybody with free copies of the game so they could get their foot in the door?
Looking at their releases I'm not sure how they're still around unless they're doing other shit in the background, they've done maybe 3 games per generation, on average, going back to the PS1. .
a45034 No.14921020
>>14888457
>t. thinks every RPG should have an open world
8f991c No.14925234
>>14876962
I didn't mess with felonies and item world much when I played it on the PS2, I am on my PC playthrough and its worth the increased EXP gain. The trick is to form a stack by the felony portal whatever it was called and toss in everybody but the bottom dude, everybody in the stack gets the felonies. Probs best to just use the main char for that and keep his felonies low because reasons.
590830 No.14927869
Because I don't want to play one right now
I'll play whatever the fuck I want
Bitch
64a334 No.14927974
>>14927799
>english dub
This thread was already shit but what a way to drag down quality.
b5ddce No.14936713
>>14927799
wew the Disgaea anime was already not great but I'd forgotten just how much worse it was made by the english dub.
7318f6 No.14936857
>>14936713
I enjoy English Laharl. I though it was approiate. Flonne's english actress seemed to fit since Laharl and Etna constantly tell her how annoying she sounds. Etna sounds like a chain smoker though.
7318f6 No.14936890
>>14936857
Fucking auto spacing, Posting Prier.
0d07ed No.14937239
Does RockMan.EXE 4.5 count as a jRPG? Playing it with the patch that makes it play like a normal BN game.
b5ddce No.14937263
>>14936857
Laharl's I could stand, but Flonne's bugged me a while in-game, but I got used to even that. Etna's voice in the anime was pretty damn rough though, and I've figured out why:
In Disgaea Hour/Afternoon of Darkness, Etna's english VA is Amanda Winn Lee, who isn't all that bad. She also voices:
> Argilla in SMT DDS
> Yukiko from the Persona 4 games and spin-offs
> Ichiko Ohya from Persona 5
> Heather Mason in Silent Hill 3.
She did some anime roles but not many, and not many more games beyond these either.
In the Disgaea anime (and all subsequent Disgaea games after Hour/Afternoon of Darkness), Etna was voiced by Michelle Ruff, who I've never cared for. She not only got all the other Etna roles, but has done MANY more roles than Amanda. Some of these include:
> Maria in Castlevania Symphony of the Night
> Sophia Esteed in Star Ocean: Till the End of Time
> Alice Elliot, Lucia, and Ouka in Shadow Hearts: Covenant
> Reiko Hinomoto and Rowdy Reiko, both in MGS3 and Rumbe Roses XX
> Velvet from Odin Sphere
> Yukari from the Persona 3 games
> Salvatore from Disgaea 3
> Crimson Viper from SFIV
> Carl Clover in BlazBlue series
> Scherazad Harvey from the Trails in the Sky FC and SC
> Katherine from Catherine
> Jill Valentine in Resident Evil Revelations and Resident Evil ORC
> Quina and Aelinore from Dragon's Dogma
> Sadayo Kawakami from Persona 5
> fem. Robin and Noire from Fire Emblem Awakening
and quite a few more games and about 100+ anime roles as well. She has at least improved, but she was just down-right awful for a long while. If you ever played Star Ocean 3, then you'll know exactly what I mean. She HAS improved, but it took a fuckin while. Reminder that Japanese voice acting will almost always be superior.
>>14936890
> all those priers
I love Ryoji's stuff, he's got some nice lewd stuff as well
c50fef No.14937296
Does ff11 count as a jrpg?
5951a4 No.14937396
>>14937263
>Scherazard Harvey
At last I know which VA sounded like a granny that was trying far too hard to sound sexy and seductive (and failing at it)
What a fucking disaster of a voice actor.
b5ddce No.14937452
>>14937396
> At last I know which VA sounded like a granny that was trying far too hard to sound sexy and seductive (and failing at it)
she was born in 1967, she's on up there now
7318f6 No.14937680
>>14937452
>(and failing at it)
If Etna was suppose to look like a curvey and full succubus, they would actually be pretty funny. but then Laharl wouldn't have her as a concubine.
b5ddce No.14937933
>>14937680
Exactly.
> spoiler
i-is that canon?
335842 No.14937977
>>14937263
>In Disgaea Hour/Afternoon of Darkness, Etna's english VA is Amanda Winn Lee, who isn't all that bad. She also voices:
>
>> Argilla in SMT DDS
>
>> Yukiko from the Persona 4 games and spin-offs
>
>> Ichiko Ohya from Persona 5
>
>> Heather Mason in Silent Hill 3.
>
>She did some anime roles but not many, and not many more games beyond these either.
You are aware that Amanda Winn Lee was one of the primary money people/directors in ADV Films, right?
ece36d No.14938206
>>14902337
the grinding is the only bad thing about it and that bullshit lake throwing stone minigame
1d9cf1 No.14938241
>>14914038
It's made by Team Ninja, they knew exactly which ones would be most popular.
b5ddce No.14938311
>>14937977
> ADV Films
Never even heard of it until just now, so no
2097a3 No.14938493
>>14938311
I know about ADV, I didn't realize Disgaea 1 Etna was Heather.
c34b46 No.14941087
>>14937933
Its pretty heavily implied, but the official answer would be Laharl isn't old enough despite being over 1000 years old.
7e0471 No.14943073
I didn't realize Disgaea 2 was this short. I'm already in Chapter 11 now, apparently there's only 13 total. All the felonies and reincarnating almost is starting to feel like a waste since this is so short, as though i've far, far over-compensated on the grinding aspect of things. I've wound up having a breeze of a time with most of the story fights so far as a result, so I finally used the "Stronger Enemies" in the Dark Court which is also nice to use for leveling purposes. I've got about 48 or so hours clocked in. I doubt I'll feel compelled enough to play Axel Mode or NG+ however.
I'm also disappointed with how damn useless Etna is compared to the rest of my party that I've been giving felonies to and reincarnating. I know for story reasons she's level 1, but the thought of trying to get some felonies on her, reincarnate her a few times, etc really feels like a pain in the ass. Also my Adell is fuckin JACKED. I considered reincarnating him again so that he'd wind up being more on-par with the rest of the party, but getting him leveled up that far again I fear would take ages.
>>14941087
> Laharl is over 1000 years old
I always forget this because he looks like an 11 year old. I guess we could call this "shotababa"?
335842 No.14946238
>>14938311
>Never even heard of it until just now, so no
>MUST BE !8 YEARS OF AGE OR OLDER TO POST
9d9146 No.14948006
>tfw didn't like FF 9, or 10 very much
>Loved FF 12 with all my heart and soul.
>liked my experience with 1 and 2 despite their blatant flaws expect 3 to fix them
>Hated FF3 in both incarnations the 3 remake I consider the worst RPG I've ever played as it only made all the issues with 1 and 3 worse in all aspects especially the remake.
>Actually liked 13-2 and 13-3. 2 For the pokemon aspect and 3 for the action game aspect
>Only the plot held my real attention
>Consider 15 a weird mismash of missed and reattained potential. Really a truely weird case of a mixed bag to the fullest potential. Especially if you experienced the game from launch.
It just makes me wonder in the modern age of max patching. It really changes how devs apporoach a game. If they release a game unfinished they really should be criticized for it and forwarned in the future in case it happens again and just wait till other fucking idiots playtest it for them. THEN buy. Once anons get into that habit then their early access BS will just ever so slightly be less expensive. I reallly wish customers would be more quick to stop the season early access passes and have higher expectations of them given their extensive potential development time.
Early access would easily allow for anons to contribute to a potential game by devs with stingy developers/publishers for maximum profit. In an ideal world this would allow for proper dev-time with full public support. But NO it's just a glorified beta testing with an added bonus of free money from fucking idiots who forget how basic economy works in addition to the dev/customer relationship works. Ritchfags need to be gassed.
bb8d7e No.14948327
>>14941087
Is the angel a concubine too?
474af3 No.14948429
I was trying to play the Phantasy Star 1 remake for PS2, but damn, those japs put zero effort into it. The main protagonist is a cutie though.
0d07ed No.14948449
What do you be Vesperia Definitive is more jRPGs than SOny will show at E3?
aa6984 No.14948454
Played Disgaea 5 complete for a few months, kind of taking a break I guess. My first Disgaea game ever, got sucked into it real bad. Enjoyed it tons. Not going to max out Axel Gear, but probably will finish maxing out my Barefoot X (already at level 6000).
I really enjoyed the game.
>>14943073
>>14941087
>Laharl is over 1000 years old
Funny thing the devs do about those games is that they make the demons a hundred times older than what they would be as humans.
Killia is 2,075 years old, but if he's the equivalent of a 20 year old.
Seraphina is 1,724 years old, but would be the equivalent of a 17 year old.
Laharl being 1,000 years old would make him the equivalent of a 10 year old.
I thought it was cute the way they did that.
Looking at the stats now, it seems like they've got a regular human height (Killia is 177 cm tall,or 5 foot 9 inches). But I always thought they were super tall, since the game battlegrounds always use "dm" (decameter) as its units in height. Since 1 dm is 10 meters, that means the scale of the battlefield is huge, and so I always thought everybody was giant sized (they are demons and angels after all).
But that doesn't explain Artina's non-giant size when she's in her human nun form. Seems I was wrong about them being giant sized.
0d07ed No.14948504
>>14948454
I'm drunk as fuck and even I can see DM is 1/10th of a meter, not 10 meters.
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e8d8f9 No.14949283
Say wouldn't it be better to just call them light RPG rather than JRPG? you know so there is a clear distinction between stuff like Demons souls and Final fantasy.
aa6984 No.14949641
>>14948504
Damn, I completely missed that! I confused
decAmeter with decImeter (10 meters versus 0.10 meters)
thanks for pointing that out to me, I've been totally wrong about it all this time
0ba539 No.14950063
>>14949641
I like how the male side of the hotspring is like some low res trash scan, but the female side is high quality and cleaned up.
3e4059 No.14950330
>>14948327
>Let me teach you love Laharl.
>Sleeps in his room.
>Lessons
Yes, I was pretty sure that was suppose to be the joke.
d7cc3c No.14950365
>>14948454
>My first Disgaea game ever, got sucked into it real bad
I was the same way when I played Disgaea 1. I'm going to work my way up to Disgaea 5
> Funny thing the devs do about those games is that they make the demons a hundred times older than what they would be as humans.
I hadn't actually really noticed that. That's pretty neat.
>>14949641
I really need to play La Pucelle
3e4059 No.14951197
>>14950063
Priorities man.
>Laharl age
Sorry, I didn't actually remember it and was just saying a number.
>Laharl
>1313 (Disgaea)
>1316 (Disgaea 2)
So according to biblical times that would be marring age.
94f2cd No.14951384
>>14948454
>look at Liezerota's arms and legs
>compare to body
That's beyond fucking anorexia, this art style is garbage. The artist needs to put some meat on those brittle bones, they're just fucking branches of a small tree wrapped in some skin, the part with leaves is where the hands start. It's bad enough the feet he makes are pegleg-tier wide and big, this shit goes too far.
ae3937 No.14952260
>>14951384
Yeah that's pretty much the Disgaea art style, Disgaea 5 is an improvement. With Killia I could believe there's some muscle under that jacket. Now look at Valvatorez, Disgaea 4's protagonist. His arms are thinner than his eyeballs. inb4 Adell
5eb7f0 No.14952944
>>14951384
>>14952260
I really do miss ryoji as the artist. He liked making things Extra thick but so they they actually had muscle definition and looked health. Like, I could believe that Prier with ham hocks on her, clearly had power behind them. I guess when your character is a demon though, you can ignore those rules. Fuck you new Dante.
4a3bd6 No.14964132
>>14952944 (checked)
the porn he does is pretty great too, he doesn't have a whole lot though.
545db7 No.14964267
>>14874026
>Why aren't you playing a JRPG right now /v/?
i am
>If you are which one?
im currently playing dragons dogma. just started BBL post-daimon for the 1st time.
loving this combat system. thoroughly enjoying the loli system.
prior to this the last JRPG i played was blue reflection. atelier firis, and before that nier automata.
the next one i plan on playing is the upcoming dragon quest thats already out in jp depending on the (((localization)))
afe86e No.14966155
>>14874026
phantasy star 4, its quite fun and easy to get into because of very engaging and ever moving story
5962f1 No.14977533
Just finished Shadow Hearts 2. The end twist was dumb and I preferred Shadow Hearts 1 for the more palpable horror themes. I imagine the second game got much better reviews than the first because they let you play without the judgement ring, which was too difficult for game journos.
Going from fighting God to fighting a chump in a daft cape is definitely a step backwards. No desire to play number 3.