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eecafa No.14825389

We all know what is warframe, and how devs constantly keep nerfing fun shit into the ground.

And I've seen examples of this in other online PVE games too like PSO2 or POE, fuck even single player game like Binding of Isaac.

Are there any online games in your memory that didn't nerf shit? Where players were allowed to have fun?

ef0b54 No.14825449

dead ones. not even being snarky. modern games are balanced around two things: 1 - the gigga casuals that cannot deal and need everything homogenised, 2 - the GREGOR who WILL find a new OP min max that becomes 'meta' and forces everything to be balanced again.

Its a balancing act of stopping the casuals from getting bodied too much by giving GREGOR a few days to find the new bullying build.


3b179d No.14825830

As far as I know, only icefrog balances his game with buffs as well as nerfs


7a3ea4 No.14825905

>>14825449

>Its a balancing act of stopping the casuals from getting bodied too much by giving GREGOR a few days to find the new bullying build.

Nobody even pvps in warframe.

>>14825389

>Are there any online games in your memory that didn't nerf shit?

Marvel Heroes devs came out and said they didn't believe in doing that and went on the buff every hero that wasn't absurdly powerful and only nerfed the one hero that was completely busted.

Too bad Marvel Heroes is both shit and ded.


97b3c6 No.14825949

>>14825905

>nobody even pvps in warframe

I thought warframe was nothing but pvp?


4592a1 No.14825950

>>14825905

>Marvel Heroes

Didn't they close it altogether?


4ff1ac No.14825960

>>14825949

You're probably thinking of a different game.


7a3ea4 No.14825961

File: b8da78934aa1411⋯.jpg (18.05 KB, 480x360, 4:3, cereal.jpg)

>>14825950

>Too bad Marvel Heroes is both shit and ded.

>>14825949

Are you serious


d7140e No.14825962

Can't think of any that don't nerf, but I'd like to bring up a couple that have been hit particularly hard by the nerf bat until they aren't fun anymore, for purely PVE games. That is Divinity Original Sin (1 and 2) as well as Vermintide 2.


97b3c6 No.14825978

File: 6aa7a45a7cd29f6⋯.jpg (93.81 KB, 500x667, 500:667, 6aa7a45a7cd29f6f6e0144658a….jpg)

>>14825960

No, i'm not.

>>14825961

Yes. I thought it was like a smaller styled planetside or CoD, with bionic powersuits.


4592a1 No.14825988

>>14825961

When person on /v/ says "ded" in most cases they mean that they don't like it anymore, not that it's actually closed.

See blizzard thread.


967048 No.14825994

>>14825947

Did you have a stroke?


7a3ea4 No.14826006

>>14825988

Nice dubs, homie.


97b3c6 No.14826039

File: 95c0ef30948cae4⋯.jpg (37.28 KB, 779x285, 41:15, Chen.JPG)

If it's not PvP, then no one has explained exactly what the fuck you do in Warframe? All the webms in the webm thread videos have been of PvP against other players.


4592a1 No.14826044

>>14826039

You kill mobs.

There are pvp modes but they are ded barely played by anybody.

It's basically PSO western edition. Like destiny or Division.


904d0f No.14826060

File: deb165ed0c91882⋯.gif (505.3 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, thinking-gif-2018-40.gif)

>>14825947

>Anyone that likes dota is a bit nervous about the average nigger.

What did he mean by this?


7a3ea4 No.14826061

File: d36386fcd0b4a29⋯.png (397.31 KB, 749x690, 749:690, 5f545effe943ee0f7c53f6cf80….png)

>>14826038

W-what?


97b3c6 No.14826064

>>14826044

Sounds boring.


4592a1 No.14826071

>>14826064

Spoiler: It fucking is.


a55ef2 No.14826123

>>14825389

>We all know … warframe

>POE

fuck off

>>14825962

The handling of V2 has been tragic. Glad I refunded in the pre-launch week.


c6283c No.14826427

>>14826071

>>14826064

>>14826044

>>14826039

>>14825949

>>14825905

>>14825389

I get that you're salty about Warframe and those niggers didn't make a new general yet for you to shit up with the usual pasta, but goddamn, making a whole new thread just bitch about it while disguising it as something else so Mark doesn't ban you is on a whole new level.

You went above Aussie shitposting my friend, I find you admirable.


dedcd7 No.14826583

There is nothing inherently bad about nerfing. Say you have one or two characters that are clearly far too powerful. Option 1 is to nerf those two characters so that they're in line with the others. Option 2 is to buff every single other character or class, all 40 or whatever of them, to reach that top tier standard. Not only is that far more work, it also means that you're very likely going to end up with one of the newly buffed characters being the new top tier and have to repeat the process. If it's PvE, you're also going to have to rebalance the enemies to match the new power creep. If it's PvP, you're going to have to deal with characters getting stronger and stronger to the point where getting a single hit in will likely end a fight.

And then there's option 3, which is to leave it alone. This is also far from ideal in any multiplayer game, because you're going to end up with a community that only wants people who play the most overpowered class. Every MMO or similar that I've played has been like this; people who play anything that actually is fun and not just the FotM get told to fuck off by the other players.

There's nothing inherently bad about nerfs, just poorly designed nerfs. Of course, the Warframe devs are fully clueless and can't properly buff or nerf to save their lives.

>>14825830

This is bullshit and you're fucking stupid if you actually believe it. Pretty much any online game balances with buffs as well as nerfs. The idiots that make Warframe do it, Ubisoft does it (as the brainless faggots that keep posting threads about that one shooter have informed us all of), any MMO I've paid attention to does it. Doesn't necessary mean that they're doing it competently, but essentially anything with balance patches makes use of both buffs and nerfs.


c6283c No.14826784

>>14826583

>people who play anything that actually is fun and not just the FotM get told to fuck off by the other players.

Try going to the Warframe thread and defend anything other that Saryn + Memeing Strike Atterax.

Doesn't matter if you know what it is or not, just post on how boring it is and how anything else is more fun. Watch the tears.

No matter what game, meta-farmers know they're picking the saddest, most boring way of playing to get that sweet dopamine release from a 1% drop after repeating the same thing 100 times in a row. Just remind them that you're having fun doing anything else.


996e6d No.14827153

>We all know what is warframe, and how devs constantly keep nerfing fun shit into the ground.

Why would I know anything about this F2P grindfest trash?


8b4020 No.14827169

File: 6ffada66f4a11f2⋯.png (36.81 KB, 750x350, 15:7, IMG_4036.PNG)

Someone just make another general already because it's painfully obvious you niggers can't keep it in your pants. We have two threads where warframe is only mentioned once and isn't even the subject of the thread, but the contents of both are largely only about warframe.


ef5977 No.14827222

File: b5c0e56af1da5be⋯.gif (2.56 MB, 300x424, 75:106, terry dance.gif)

>>14827169

Or better, quarantine the addicts off to their own board so they stop spilling into other discussion. Take the mobage faggots with them and call the place /rng/.


77b350 No.14827386

>>14826784

Seeing someone intentionally do things wrong wrong makes successful people angry.


1825fb No.14827426

File: 3103ddd07c9373a⋯.jpg (391.96 KB, 1904x1000, 238:125, mabinogi_2015_06_26_002.jpg)

>tfw they nerf your favorite class


0318f8 No.14827594

File: 8c433119388672a⋯.jpg (9.14 KB, 325x319, 325:319, genuine anger.jpg)

No, because casuals complain way too much for not actually getting good and go to the forums and complain endlessly till those weapons are nerfed into the ground. Also the compfags don't help either since they love to hate fun for their "competitive mode" that makes a shitton of things obsolete that you even wonder why you play the game at all since all fun it's take out of for their shitty competitive play that it's broken and can't seem to the the obvious problem. I just play on some custom servers that don't have this bullshit just to have fun again just like the old days.


2c74bd No.14827653

File: 6a2d2423e8e43d6⋯.jpg (177.37 KB, 1200x685, 240:137, checkmate.jpg)

>>14825389

it's something an anon posted in reference to riot games.

developers have discovered if a game is too much fun, people binge then stop playing and come back less and less, So they need to have an almost fun game full of frustrating shit to keep you playing longer and chasing that high. it's really rather disgusting.

the only winning move is not to play.

just go back to whatever was fucking good don't give these jews a penny.




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