/v/ - Video Games

Except not really? And VR isnt dead

The hype wasn't around it changing gaming, it was mainly about it being something cool to fuck around with and porn.

What killed it was the pricetag.

>>14801003

I remember when the pricetag was supposed to be around 200 bucks. Then they attach a fucking Xbox One controller and try to charge a fucking thousand. Goddamned kikes.

I am honestly somewhat repulsed that they have the nerve to call a fucking screen mounted on your face virtual reality.

Call me when we get actual virtual reality, like Star Trek Holodeck level shit.

>>14801003

>The hype wasn't around it changing gaming

It absolutely was. You don't need to white knight VR with your revisionism, everyone here knows how it went down.

>>14801003

it doesn't matter if it's fucking FREE, if there are no fun or interesting games it's a gimmick and worthless for gaming.

>>14801013

Go drink some bleach and shoot yourself in the mouth, you dumb fucking shit smear.

>>14800999

I do this too, but with a shitty Chinese knockoff headset someone got me as a Christmas gift.

It's easier than getting a ceiling-mounted television, at least.

>(((joel stein)))

>>14801028

You're waifu a shit

>>14801020

Maybe on the cancerous sites that you like to visit. I distinctly remember most of the people here mainly wanting one for porn and waifushit and you fucking know it.

>>14801021

>it doesn't matter if it's fucking FREE

Yes it fucking would. If it was free everyone would get their hands on one for the hell of it and you're an imbecile if you think otherwise. And that would address the content issue as well as suddenly there would be more interest in making content for it, as it is right now it's caught in a catch-22.

>>14801093

Anon you're moving the goalposts, and clearly didn't understand the OP. Hint: He wasn't pretending the cynical contrarians here thought it was going to change everything.

I'm pretty sure VR will start to become decent and then eventually good. Right now though it's too expensive and doesn't have much compelling content or useful applications. However as it becomes more and more decentralized it will become cheaper and less of a hassle. It will be like steam. Steam didn't all of a sudden become gigantic and change everything but all of a sudden a bunch of people realized oh all my shit is on steam now.

>>14801093

>everyone would get their hands on one for the hell of it

the adoption rate doesn't magically make interesting games possible with the technology. keep deluding yourself in thinking that LE REAL VR GAEMS ARE COMINGG!!! when some magical number of retards buy into the meme like you.

>>14801114

>dream of being able to look at a screen at any angle comfortably in bed is possibly here

BE ADVISED: Reading the subtitles can strain your eyes because you'd be looking downward using your eyes much moreso than you would on a computer.

Lean back in your chair, look directly ahead, put your arms out in front of you, and point your eyes at your elbows. That's how it feels.

>>14801106

>he wasn't pretending the cynical contrarians here thought it was going to change everything

Then what the fuck is the point of making this thread if the people it's clearly aimed at don't browse this site? You're the one engaging in revisionism.

>>14801118

>already said that the price tag is retarded

>therefore thinks I brought one

You're a special kind of retarded. And yes, it's called supply and demand. The main reason people don't want to make content for the things is because not enough people own one.

>>14801170

You can also adjust where the video appears on the screen, so you could move everything up a little bit, but VR just isn't made for reading.

I'm using a bootleg headset though, so maybe a real headset could do it better.

>>14800944

>(1) and done

>>14801134

>Reading the subtitles

>he doesnt know moonrunes

>>14801177

>Then what the fuck is the point of making this thread if the people it's clearly aimed at don't browse this site?

Obviously it was intended to be your typical /v/ circle jerk about how despite the industry driven hype, years later all we have is a gimmicky overpriced shitshow, just like every other VR thread we've had.

>>14801181

>the last decade

anyone got that old webm where some fat dude is "running" in one of those things and does a weak little hop?

>>14801021

I just want one for porn to be honest

>>14800988

Its not dead. Its mostly the domain of hipster developers selling to whales with more money than sense. Can you name a killer app? Can you name something thats revolutionized productivity? Its mostly gimmickware and waifu simulations for NEETs.

If by not dead, you mean at least a decade from being useful, you'd be correct. The hardware is too expensive for too little return unless you are a person for whom money is not an obstacle. The software is mostly fit for a mall kiosk or Sharper Image. I don't think they've even overcome the nausea issue yet. Not to mention the development side is plagued by the same pack sjw slacktivists who specialize in Twine and are looking for an easy ride to pay the rent in the Bay Area. So if that wasn't enough, you can also thank Lucky Palmer and friends for selling Occulus out to Facebook and thereby retarding both the market and the growth of the market. IIRC even Gabe called the VR market void.

VR? I'd rather spend the money on a higher end GPU and a better conventional display.

>>14801207

Remember back when the prices were announced and shit went downhill? That's when the "he fell for the VR meme" meme started. A lot of that was people claiming the whole thing was a failure because it didn't revolutionise gaming despite the fact that people here clearly weren't expecting it to and weren't interested in it for that reason.

nobody wants crappy one hour tech demos with teleporting and no gameplay or proper story

ill take a look at VR once they finished reinventing the wheel and reaching the same conclusions rest of the industry had

ITT: lots of faggots who obviously didn't get to experience vr porn.

>>14801239

The starting hardware isnt that expensive anymore, plus the cheaper option the Cockulus is the better buy than the vive, or you can simply get the OSVR which is modular and Open source, which is probably the best bet. Some games that are pretty good is shit like Beat Saber, Onward, Pavlov, Total Recall, and some other niche games I cant recall right now. And you can just pirate some of the re-releases that go into VR since those should be free anyway for previous owners.

The nausea meme is from weak willed soy boys by the way. It literally takes 2 hours to get over it and you're fine in any movement if you just push through the starting point, at least thats how its worked for me and i've had no nausea when others said they've experienced a lot so i've just boiled it down to either soy, or womyn. There are obvious problems like FOV and Resolution, but its looking like CV2/CV3 will come out in the next year or two so its best to just wait it out unless you really want to try out VR.

>>14801368

only people that I see buy VR headsets at the store are memer beaner children and gooks.

>>14801368

>>14801329

>muh vr porn justifies a 600$ shit gimmick

here's a better thing to do, how about you get a girlfriend?

>>14801393

>3DPD

No.

>>14801407

>don't pass on your genes, goy

Nah, call me when artificial wombs are ready

>>14801393

>going out with some ugly whore.

>>14801413

>not keeping your bloodline pure

>not raising her from the ground up

are you even trying?

>>14801413

>Fuck a whore, goy.

>Don't transcend these money vacuums who buy all our products with your money.

>>14801393

I paid half of that, less expansive than multiple restaurants and some other social shit while listening to some roastie telling me how we could welcome all rapefugees.

>>14801418

>from the ground up

Are you implying that I should fuck the earth?

>>14801413

>wants a kid

>but too much of a goddamn betafaggot to go fuck a woman

Anon, nature isn't letting you pass on your genes for a reason.

>>14801413

And whose to say Hologram Waifus wont have that?

>>14801443

Its hard to find a compatible mate that you want to stay with, since most women are not worth any time. Its like finding hay in a needlestack.

>>14800999 (checked)

Can you build a computer and set up it and run it with just a VR headset for a monitor?

>>14800944

>>14801038

>>14801125

I came here to post this.

>>14801184

>(1) and done

This.

>>14801462

The cockulus go is your best bet for that type of set up, or if you already have a good phone thats compatible you could use that too. VR headsets can also do desktop mirroring at base but you need to use a monitor for initial set up.

It's dead on arrival, but for reasons most people think.

>>14801239

>Can you name a killer app?

There isn't one; otherwise /v/ or /tech/ would have a general thread dedicated to said killer app.

>Can you name something thats revolutionized productivity?

Just that Microsoft HoloLens, and just barely.

>Its mostly gimmickware and waifu simulations for NEETs.

It always will be.

DSPs aren't fast enough to process signals at a rate that doesn't completely fuck your equilibrium. Even those $1400 ones. We literally don't have the technology to overcome the biological problem to which the idea requires a solution.

>>14801329

>VR porn

Will be a complete failure to literally you because once they can transmit the smells and you smell a real vagina you'll puke and go back to jerking off to pedo and bestiality cartoons. Because you're the actual faggots in this thread.

>>14801017

Agreed. Its not virtual reality, not even close.

>work on VR 2.0 in the mid '90s with VRML and other horrors

>can't get movement feeling natural

>try using full room CAVE displays and treadmills, plan to work backwards to find what is acceptable

>even with ridiculous hardware people refuse to accept it

>decide it's of little use to anyone other than simfags and the military

>VR 3.0

>no one's addressing the vision/movement disconnect, huge elephant in the room

>tell people it won't work because they're not solving the unsolved problem

>people insist it's the future and I'm a dinosaur

>now they're stuck with $800 dust collectors

Faggots.

>>14801239

I can only name my personal Killer app and that's either Gorn (Which is still a Work in Progress but progressing nicely) or Knockout League

>>14801499

>not puking from smelling a real vagina

ISHYGDDT

>>14801317

this

>>14801518

doubt any of that has any interesting gameplay mechanics and story elements that last longer than an hour or is actually competitive with your average game

>>14801317

just strap a phone to your head

>>14801518

>VR isn't dead

>look in this graveyard, it's full of VR games

>>14801585

Faggot

>>14801588

Also a faggot.

Learn to bait harder, the pair of you, you fucking disappointed me.

>5-600 $ bullshit you strap to your head to get a headache and motion sickness

>made from $15 phone screen and software from india

>can play meme games made popular by youtube streamers

>you can't actually move in those games

NO SHIT

>>14801608

> to get a headache and motion sickness

how

>>14801643

it's strapping a small monitor to your face.

>>14801665

no, it's strapping a small COMPUTER to my face.

I want a monitor for the computer I already have.

>>14801181

The use of 3D perception on a 2d image has been around for over 100 years. There are cameras 100+ years old that take 2 pictures at different pos+angle, then you put left eye on left pic vice versa.

Honing perception is a step forward when you want a game to actually be more immersive. Sure some games don't need this like side scrollers or top downs, but some games will benefit. So, shut up.

>>14801017

>>14801504

I'm more disgusted that a segway without handlebars is called a hoverboard.

>>14801640

>nu/v/ thinks this is reddit where everyone must comply

Fuck off faggot, I will like things one day and dislike them the next

>>14801181

Wow it's almost like just plugging a computer into your brain is not actually possible outside of shitty science fiction, and you have to use helmets, threadmills and controllers to simulate a VR world in physical world.

>>14801522

You can train your brain to accept the disconnect. Not only that, you can train your brain to expect that your controller input is where you're supposed to go, not where your legs go.

People need to control their hype, VR is going to be a big deal if you like simulators but it's not going to work with every game.

My next build (2-3 years away) will probably be when I get a headset and steering wheel, I already have throttle, stick and pedals for flight.

>>14801902

If you have basic carpentry skill and some spare cash, do invest into motion rig, too.

>>14801862

People can train their brain to accept the disconnect of a mouse and keyboard, too. The point of VR was supposed to be that they wouldn't have to do that.

>>14801902

If you didn't own a TrackIR before, you didn't actually care and are just buying hype you won't use.

>>14801413

>>>/nupol/

VR isn't growing that fast because the good shit costs lots of money and the cheap shit that everyone can easily get their hands on isn't worth using.

Most people complaining about VR being lame probably tried a Google cardboard or some shit and decided that it was exactly how a Vive or a Rift was and why spend $800 when you already know it's the same as some cardboard around your crappy phone?

Even now the Vive and Rift are crap tier VR, but it's good enough that you can get absorbed in a game and forget where you are enough to try to lean on something that isn't there, or you instinctively back away when someone or something gets too close.

It only gets better from here.

>>14801643

There's software that screencasts a defined area of your desktop to your phone. TrinusVR is one such example. Though the free version only gives you 15 minutes to configure/test it.

>>14802071

> http://fortune.com/2017/02/19/virtual-reality-vr-sales/

> Well, maybe not. Sales figures for 2016 are in, and they’re not exciting: The VR industry shipped 6.3 million devices and pulled in $1.8 billion in revenue, according to research firm Super Data. That’s below expectations, though analysts say it isn’t terrible for an emerging technology.

Right now you are at shitty failing console tier

> vr being standard

/v/ also has its lolcows

>>14802071

here's a screencap for (You). The only way VR is going to become supremely popular is if one of these meme devs can actually make a game that really pushes the boundaries of the technology. I don't mean in a, "This is the farthest VR has gone in graphics!" or "This is the farthest VR has gone in a meme mechanic". I mean that for VR to actually be what it dreams to be, there has to be a game with actual, good gameplay in it. Hell make it an exploration game. Maybe someone with as much balls as brains can make a true to life Roadside Picnic VR game (dodging anomalies, sneaking through the night past guards, nabbing and selling artifacts) with a heavy dose of actually trying then they might have something.

Beyond that, see you in 15 years when the technology actually progresses.

>>14801964

>The point of VR was supposed to be that they wouldn't have to do that.

Why the fuck wouldn't they? It's an even more complete sensory input, so any disconnect between how your brain is accustomed to reality operating and how VR operates is going to heightened. It's like losing one sense, and your other senses get more acute as a response (they don't really, you just get more accustomed to their subtleties with the reduced noise/processing going on in your brain).

It's a fucking never-ending treadmill that's going to demand greater and more expensive sensory replication contraptions towards an eventual goal of Star Trek holodeck levels of complete immersion just to get out of it's sensory uncanny valley.

Better to just cut to the chase now and produce games that are actually fun games using standard control inputs - rather than trying to reproduce reality on technology that's about 50 years too primitive to accomplish that task - and 100 years before it becomes affordable and miniaturized enough for mass market adoption.

Beat Saber looks ok, but nothing I can't get with much better traditional rhythm games. I'll probably get it just to use in conjunction with some 5~10lb wrist strap weights for a fit vidya routine

>>14800944

t. tard that's never even tried it

>>14802167

t. shit for brains

so many salty paupers in here that cant afford vr LUL

>>14802167

>how would you know that you hate gay sex if you haven't let someone fuck you in the ass

Hey anon, there's this cool thing called suicide, I think you should try it.

>>14800944

VR isn't done yet, just let normalfags feed the beast until we get

>Wireless headsets with solid 60fps and 4k resolution per eye

>Glove controllers are commonplace and replace stick controllers completely

>Polygons are replaced with methods similar to vid related

>Robotic fleshlights

So hype that shit up and never spend a penny on it until about 3 or 4 gens in.

>>14802187

t. buyer's remorse.

>>14800999

>Only one person has checked this

Isn't that a little bit uncomfortable, when I tried VR it was heavy and clunky. I can imagine trying to turn on my side, and i'd think it would push the lenses out of the correct position.

>>14802210

>Solid 60fps

Lul

>>14800988

Back the fuck off? UGH?

>>14801030

what chinese knockoff you got friend?

>>14802210

pretty much this

1st gen PCs were fucking building sized, no nig would buy that shit, let the idiots fall for the money trap and wait til it hits a technological ceiling or dies.

>>14802267

>1st gen PCs were fucking building sized

Fucking hell, where all these kids coming from? Those were mainframes dumbass. Arguably the first PC actually fit on or near a desk. And they were shit but they were only at the beginning of Moore's law. Here we are towards the end of Moore's law still strapping monitor powered gimmicks to our face and so far after the initial excitement they are not holding up and already its looking like sales have peaked. The problem of VR they have no use case, increasing resolution and fidelity won't do dick, the only hope is a monumental drop in price and then they'll just share the same fate as the joystick, pushed aside until something worthwhile might use it. The problem is that in the long run they don't beat a conventional monitor.

>>14802300

Agree, although that's mostly a misunderstanding of terminology. PC stands for personal computer. He should have just said computer.

>>14802300

>Those were mainframes dumbass.

You'd think the term Personal Computer would have clued him in. Those room-sized systems were usually maintained by a University or a Corporation or Government agency - they were not Personal systems. A Personal Computer would, by necessity, have to be space-saving enough to fit within the confines of a desk or cubicle.

>>14802300

>the end of Moore's law

That's just a meme circulated by monopolies that don't want you to ask why they're spending $300M on diversity instead of R&D.

Am I retarded or has this board been going in circles since like april.

I swear I've seen most of these threads like 9 times now, except maybe the draw thread.

>>14802072

>dubbed

shitty voice acting made by old hags and generic sounding men who are just fans of animu instead of actual voice actors with a background in theater.

>Western Cartoons

when will I get a more violent rendition of video related?

>>14802309

Well the thing is the first gen mainframes were valve driven so while yeh they implemented the basics of circuit logic they were quite distance away form even the first silicon based transistor machines. The comparison to VR really doesn't hold up.

>>14802319

uhh ok. Although all you have to do is figure out how small a transistor needs to be when it becomes susceptible to quantum tunnelling. Something like ~1nm although it seems that 6nm and below is a problem.

>>14801823

Oh it's possible. We've got most of the parts of it at some point of proof of concept, we can wire sensors to nerve outputs and control machines with direct brain output. We have machines that can read your brain activity and start to resolve an image of whatever you're looking at. It's really only a matter of time before somebody figures out how to go the other way, inputting sensory data directly into the brain.

>>14802358

Well, actually it's not senors to nerve out puts, it's just using the current to toggle, there isn't any real degree of "human control" it's more of a analog trigger but it's your muscle.

>>14802358

Have you fucking seen it in action? It's like 20 electrodes, which is, say, 20 pixels of visual data, or 20 discrete audible frequencies, you can imagine it's an absolute ass compared to your own instruments. Having thousands of connections in there like a real eye or ear would require a 1" thick cable going into your skull, jam packed with microscopic electrodes. To top it off, all of that crap suffers from scar tissue buldup around the electrodes, which deteriorates the connection quality, ultimately leading to complete loss of signal.

>just remove the scar tissue lol

Yeah scrape off part of your brain, what could possibly go wrong. Nevermind the risk of infection and whatnot.

>>14802412

To be fair aren't asians like, not old until they hit 61, when they suddenly jump like 40 years in appearance and health?

>>14802412

doesn't matter, at least those grannies can voice act.

>>14802398

That's a cute boy

>>14802453

>taking joy in being a 4cuck

>>14802453

> (1) and done duplicate thread OP is also a 4cuck

Am I supposed to be surprised?

It stopped car autists from buying THREE FUCKING MONITORS to play their sim racing games.

>>14802489

>driving gloves

Jesus fucking Christ. Looks fun.

>>14802502

Well you don't want dripping sweat all over your expensive fucking racing wheel.

>>14802509

I just looked at the price, madman.

>>14802509

that and after an hour your hands begin to ache if you don't wear gloves.

>>14802510

Yeah and it's mounted on a shitty G27 racing wheel, what a joke.

>>14802398

Dude didn't say anything about commercial products, he just said it wasn't possible, which is wrong. The technology is being explored already, and people aren't going to stop exploring it.

>>14802413

That's why I said "start to resolve".

>>14802425

This guy gets it. We're on the road, and the only way is forward. Someone somewhere is eventually going to do this shit, and it will be a horrorshow. It is far from 'not possible', and that should make you very uncomfortable.

>>14800944

too poor to experience VR

shits on it instead

>>14802453

I forbid you from liking kill me baby

>>14800944

The problem is a lot of this technology is always great for everything but games. The Kinect was a perfect example of this.

I still want a VR headset so I can play my racing sims the proper way. That's really all they're good for, just waiting for the prices to go down.

VR is dead.

Again.

>>14800944

poorfag detected, get wrecked poornigger

>>14801181

WHERE'S MAH VR HAMSTER BALL CONTROLLER?

>>14800944

This current trend is so shit it doesn't even deserve its name. It's not virtual reality, it's just the new 3D glasses.

>>14802425

>>14803463

The human brain already has the functionality to stop you from moving despite you wanting to– when you are dreaming; ie: sleep paralysis. It is incredibly likely this will be induced via a non-invasive directed magnetic wave or some shit for fulldive VR. You can even still move your eyes during sleep paralysis so it's an obvious solution. Scientists have already triggered parts of the brain to activate or deactivate via such methods so it's only a matter of time.

>>14800944

I never wanted or expected headsets to be anything more than a gimmick for cockpit sims though. But somehow headset devs can't seem to get even that right. There's probably at least one acceptable simulator, but I seriously doubt any of them are good enough to be a $500+ system seller.

This is literally the only time I've seen either CS:GO or VR looking like fun.

>>14801393

>girlfriend

That's a way more expensive gimmick. 600$ is pocket change in comparison.

>BUT VALVE IS WORKING ON DOZENS OF VR GAMES THAT WILL TURN EVERYTHING AROUND

Considering Valve time they'll be out when people are banging lolis in the Unteralterbach holodeck stage.

>>14801586

Funniest thing is that Sony is doing the best with their implementation of VR.

>>14801446

Hi Christine. You should start drawing more sonichu pages. Those debts aren't gonna pay themselves.

>>14801518

How many of those would qualify as overpriced minigames on a proper platform?

VR is a complete fucking fad and anybody who says otherwise is fooling themselves.

pass this thread to John, Flan

>>14804151

they all like this:

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=vr

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F012z6wvd&date=today%205-y

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=%2Fm%2F0_v2y3w&date=today%205-y

etc

>>14803611

Now that is the kind of game that would make VR worthwhile

>>14804995

>but i more hate retards, who think they are special if they have VR

Isn't that basically everyone who owns VR?

>There are people on this board who fell for the VR meme

LOL

>>14800944

Guy in the headset looks like a prancing fagfatty who'd get his boytits whipped in any self respecting educational establishment.

They really should have put more thought into what a cunt people look/how dangerously they act blindly flailing around while wearing these things

>>14801181

My brain stalls at: 'Who the fuck wants to run/walk the distances needed in RPGs?' I use gaming during sedate times, perhaps challenge my mind/fingers, at no point does:

>Donning a helmet

>Running in place

>Ducking and dodging like a twat

>Swinging my arms about like a fag, wrecking my shit

>or playing shitty games with hamfisted interactions

ever come to mind. The gear is too intrusive, bulky and impractical. I could see 'some' use for the goggle setup *IF* it was light as a pair of glasses (needs to take into account fags with normal glasses too) was unwired and didn't cook your face but obviously that's still 30 years away.

>>14802358

>Oh it's possible

Delusional as a tranny.

>>14810186

Maybe it would cause devs to create move "condensed" experiences similar to the level design of the deus ex games.

I've always felt that the travel distances in mmos were unbearable and unnecessary.

>>14810203

>expecting hard work and innovation

Such grand innocence. But seriously, Z-movement (like climbing ladders) is slightly more gratifying in VR. I haven't seen that much of it though.

VR will always be shit until we have cranial jacks or some kind of magic helmet technology. The holodeck crap everyone thinks will be the holy grail of VR sill be just as shitty and unengaging as current technology.

>>14800944

The tech is solid, but the well of modern game devs is poisoned beyond hope. Once the tech is cheap and easy enough for turbo-autistic 1MA indie devs to work with, there should be a small renaissance.

It's a peripheral, though. Keep that in mind. VR is the same as a controller - making games specifically for it is retarded.

>>14801964

Things is with monitor/TV and mouse/pad player continuously operate in one mode. Line of sight does not tied to the vestibular system sensory input. So over time player can become accustomed to such disconnect.

With VR it is constant jumps back and forth between mode when line of sight and point of view is tied to the heads movement and properly registered by vestibular system and mode when they move around via controllers input when players needs to trun "body" to the new direction or move, this movement happens with zero input from vestibular system. Which mode should player be accustomed for?

This is the elephant in the room.

>>14802412

>>voice acting made by old hags

>

>I want to remind you that most japanese seiyu are reaching 30's and 40's of age.

?you know new voice actors enter the business all the time, right?

>>14810941

>/tv/ memes

>>14810901

>The tech is solid

It's just slapping two smart phones together really really close to your eyes. Most technological developments have been figuring out how to stop your brain from getting a headache.

>everyone who bought it say its okay and has it's uses

>anons known for not being able to acquire 2 (two) gaming devices over the course of one gen think its absolute shit

wonder what could be the reason and who is right, never even used one

>>14802331

Never ever, Unless adultswim decides to starts making good cartoons suddenly.

>>14811563

>Korgoth

It still hurts.

>>14811516

>Spending $800 on goggles with no games

Gee I wonder why nobody owns one.

>>14801679

You can substitute with something like a pseudo-keyboard IR remote, or an actual wireless keyboard.

>>14810186

I could see if they used it for better more natural feeling controls in games, but yeah the spazzing out like a sperg, and fighter pilot helmets just to play a game is purely stupid.

>>14811887

Because /v/ is a bunch of neet poorfucks.

>>14812010

You don't need to be poor to have the sense not to throw money at nothing.

>>14812010

Ok nigger where are you working full time for $30/hr where $800 isn't a large expense?

>>14802331

Am I the only one who noticed how nice the sound effects on this are?

>>14814605

>>owning a VR headset

I got a PSVR for $150 (GTSport bundle for $200, sold GTSport for $50), and I don't regret it.

>>14818182

>ragebooze

i know that guy, which one of you fuckers are you.

>>14818188

MaxieMan

>>14818224

get outta my turf or i'll have you gutted sup it's chicken

>>14818225

Oh neat, hey. The guys say hi. Haven't seen Rage in months though, hope he's doing okay.

>>14818237

i literally talked to him on steam yesterday about vermintide 2, so that's on you guys. I'd stop in to chat more often but verbal chatting triggers my autism too often

>>14818241

**No it's entirely my fault. I'm full normalfag lately with new job, wedding and shit so he may have been around and I missed him. I understand about the voice chat, I used to run an IRC channel and all those guys were like that.

Anyway, I've gotta jet so take care. I'm sure I'll see you again and don't be afraid to pop into the text channels once in a while.**

>>14818254

Man what a way to leave a thread

>>14803499

>artificially induced sleep paralysis

Jesus fucking christ, that's going to be horrifying when inevitable technical bugs and computer crashes end up keeping you "stuck" in that state. No fucking thanks.

>>14802210

Euclidian where in the spotlight with their endless detail engine that wasn't implemented in anything.

>>14802210

>infinite polygon engine

What the fuck, why haven't I heard of this before, and how the fuck does it work?

>>14821919

Because its such a scam (or halfbaked heap of hax) that even Notch has shat on Euclidian on his blog.

https://archive.is/mtFw

Remember how Shadowwarrior had some 3D Objects in the games if you turned on that option? They are mad of voxels, 3Dimensional pixels. You can turn that effect off, because it was pretty taxing on the CPU at the time. Supposeldy, they claim, that their endless detail engine is capable of displaying gorillions and gorillions of Voxels at once. This leads to theoreticall endless details. Just like defining a Class called numbers with multiple methods transforming into B, QA, QI, GO etc objects makes endless numbers possible. Its a bullshit hack that wouldn't work for anything serios. Look at the footage. Wonder why nothing is animated? Aren't you puzzled over the lack of people? Well, animating Objects made of Voxels doesn't work that well yet. If it ever did, Everyone would have jumped onto that engine.

>>14821986

So how'd they animate that egg thing and the snail in the video? Looked decent enough to me

>>14822041

That is nowhere in the 2011 demo. The stuff they show off in their VR trailer could as well be fake. Here is a little something from another voxel engine that is animated. Note how pixelated it all looks? Even with Voxels, there are still limits, because Computers are still discrete. How would you feel when you load up your waifu in your VR environment and she looks like Quake monster up close, because your PC would shit its pants otherwise?

And this is how an Amateur animates Characters made of voxels. Note how the animations are even choppier than in Quake? Also keep in mind that the games Euclidian shows off are highly specialized shit that don't have much going on.

>>14821986

>>14822088

It's spelled Euclideon you braindead nigger

>>14801239

>can you name something thats revolutionized productivity

I do design work and VR has definitely been useful in prototyping. 3d printing a lot more but being able to walk around something in VR does make it pretty useful. I remember when the Vive Pro came out and everyone started sperging about the price and how its too much for gaming and I was just shocked at how retarded everyone was being because it obviously was a product for commercial use

>>14822080

Wouldn't that problem be solved if they really can have a fuckhuge amount of voxels on screen, like they claim? I don't know about those animations - the ones on the left indeed look choppy as hell, but the voxel dude looked pretty smooth to my untrained pleb eye.

Does Euclideon just go around scamming everyone? They said they were making a game engine then bailed on it, they got $2M to extend it from Australia and no one's ever heard of what happened to that money, they were trying to sell their shit to mapping companies and no one's heard of what happened there, they were claiming they'd be doing web streaming but that was taken down (after proving their tech was shit as that church demo was slow and awful and ate gigabytes of bandwidth), and their Holoverse thing apparently opened but no one seems to care about it that much and comments suggest it's not very good:

>It's marketed at superior to VR but its literally worse than Google cardboard. The resolution is so terrible and the motion tracking is terrible! Compared to VR this technology is horrible.

>>14822147

The buzzword to see trough Euclideon's promises is discrete. The island is only 1 Km² big. As I have mentioned, voxelated objects are optional in Shadowwarrior, because it was able to eat your CPU and your Memory back then. Since its we are talking about memory, let's see what Notch has to say in his candy room:

>They made a voxel renderer, probably based on sparse voxel octrees. That’s cool and all, but.. To quote the video, the island in the video is one km^2. Let’s assume a modest island height of just eight meters, and we end up with 0.008 km^3. At 64 atoms per cubic millimeter (four per millimeter), that is a total of 512 000 000 000 000 000 atoms. If each voxel is made up of one byte of data, that is a total of 512 petabytes of information, or about 170 000 three-terrabyte harddrives full of information. In reality, you will need way more than just one byte of data per voxel to do colors and lighting, and the island is probably way taller than just eight meters, so that estimate is very optimistic.

Notch also mentions the drawbacks with animations. This is why the 2011 demo contains exactly zero. They are also infamous among programers and computer Graphic artists due to their lofty claims that are obviously bull.

https://archive.is/6bs3I

>>14822166

In short: probably yes. They want more funding to keep the lights on and feed their pet goat more. They started out with 2 Million Australian $ government funds.

>>14822227

I don't know why people look to Notch for an analysis as he knows less about graphics and programming than a first year student. It's like asking PHP Pro for advice on building a replacement for TensorFlow.

>>14822016

My laptop is old too but at the time it was €900 so it can do 720p anime, VNs and older weebshit.

But honestly VR would mostly be used for mainstream normalfag stuff so whatever. How many of our brother and sister pedoweebs have a VR device?

>its great for porn

Yeah vanilla stuff. Oh joy of joys a Floridian bimbo with fake tits.

>>14822269

Because they made the most popular game utilizing voxels and the Minecraft fanbase, as stupid and autistic as they are, have badgered him in using that for Minecraft. He had to say something. All in all, I mentioned his take on it to point out how flimsy Euclideon's promise of endless details actually are. By the way, its not a good sign that they of all people are coming to the VR party.

When someone puts out a decent one that doesn't cost and absurd price, we might actually start getting somewhere. It has to cost like 50 dollars though.

>>14823189

I played a demo for Thumper in VR. It was pretty fun, but I have no idea if the gimmick of playing a Journey album cover in VR (with no fucking Journey music) would hold up for an entire game.

>>14823282

>sadworld

top tier shit

>>14800944

VR is fine poorfag.

>>14835378

It's not

t. VR set owner

You can't kill what was never alive. VR does have a lot of potential, but it would be a mistake on my part if I even implied that it was good. Right now VR is an expensive gimmick. Its improved from prior iterations by being actually functional, but its price and limited pool of games make more bragging rights for hipsters then anything else.

However, give the tech 10-20 years and it may become much cheaper to buy/develop for.

>>14835378

>implying

>>14835378

not enough good games yet.

>>14801518

whens VR DOOM?