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>Why the fuck was the Resident Evil 2 thread deleted?

Dunno, it was 100% vidya.

>What does everyone think the chances of REmake 2 being announced at E3 are?

Never ever, sadly.

>Will it be fun?

If done like REmake or zero, yes, if done like RE4, then i will be absolutely mad and probably get really sad.

>Will the new movie reboot actually be faithful to the source material?

JUST GIVE IT TO ROMERO, HE HAS THE RIGHT IDEA!

>Did anyone else enjoy 7?

I did, it was better than 6 and a step in the right direction.

>>14800557

>Just give it to me straight, man.

He's dead anon

I agree entirely with your post about 7 though the addition of a Mercenaries mode on top of all of that would have been great too.

>>14800569

>He's dead anon

Oh fuck, i didnt know that, well, no perfect RE movie ever then, we exist just to suffer.

Seriusly, i was watching the original dawn of the dead a couple months ago and the beggining part with the cops and everything going to shit inside the police station made me really want a romero movie.

>the addition of a Mercenaries mode on top of all of that would have been great too.

That name is tarnished now, we need to just go back to battle mode.

Seriously who the fuck deleted it and why

>>14800587

A mod probably woke up in a bad mood, saw the last thread title (let's me honest, it had a bait title) and deleted it before even clicking it.

>>14800611

>Not saying over the shoulder 2 couldnt be fun

Anon, its the remake of a game that allowed all other to exist, we enjoyed as it was dearly and all of these shitters that jumped at 4 neither care about nor like, making it a 3rd person shooter would be an insult to the game, its creators and all of us that wasted hours playing it instead of going out and doing interesting things with our lives.

>>14800587

who fucking cares

calm your autism or fucking kill yourself

>>14800623

t. misfiring mod

>>14800621

we're in agreement anon, I'm just saying if they did it half decently it could still be fun. I just have zero hope for anything as far as games go these days so the best I can ask for is if they fuck it up, they fuck it up in a way that's at least fun to play.

I say this as someone who as played RE2 probably too many times to count.

>>14800694

Well, then ill just say what i say whenever we get pessimistic about it, atleast we weill get new models for claire and loli sherry, unless they fuck up claire's face against (it was a fuckup, not sjw garbage judging by moira bein cute and the unlockable outfits being sexy).

Seeing how the thread is about 2 i have a question, what the fuck was up with chief irons?

I get taking bribes and being a murder-rapist, but why activly fuck with the cops's attempt to defend racoon city and even the police station when shit hit the fan?

He didnt even try to escape.

>>14800769

Umbrella orders?

>>14800781

Why keep taking their orders if youre 100% sure youre going to get killed along the rest of the cops too?

Atleast dont fuck with the radio and dont give them conflicting orders.

>>14800502

>What does everyone think the chances of REmake 2 being announced at E3 are?

At this point i think that the Remake getting cancelled will be a blessing since many were pushing for an over-the-shoulder action game.

<B-but with a RE4 gameplay more people will support the game :,(

Who gives a fuck about the braindead plebs, why should i care about people who never cared about the original to begin with?

Fuck that shit, better nothing at this point.

>>14800769

He went insane, the whole zombie problem got out of control and the city falling down was more that he expected. Plus, in his diary he wrote his suspicions about being already infected with the virus, so since he thought

that his time was up he took the decision to go in a killing spree with all the remaining survivors

>>14800874

Was that a file in 2?

I dont remenber it, the most i remenber is that one about his secretary suspecting he wanted to kill her (wich was probably true, in fact, i bet it happened).

>>14800894

>when looking at the "in-universe" RE films?

The in universe films dont have umbrella literally detroying the world and turning it into a desert only for it not to be a desert next movie and all of this for apparently no reason at all.

>>14800909

>turning it into a desert only for it not to be a desert next movie

Extinction takes places in Nevada, with the characters crossing the Mojave desert, what else were you expecting?

>>14800923

The movie literally said the planet turned into a desert at the very beggining.

>>14800933

Ah, you're right.

>>14800965

Of course i am, would i ever lie to you anon?

>>14800953

Theres a making of on youtube about that commercial if you watn to see more of her.

RE 8 when?

>>14801014

Hopefully not soon, they need time to work on it and deliver a good game.

>>14800544

7 was just movie reference the game though. Nothing in it was remotely original in any way, and before you say something dumb like ‘RE wasn’t original’ it had an original layout, that’s for certain, which 2 and now 7 try to ape to have some kind of identity, and 7’s identity is built off of being derivative and selling fancy headsets

>>14802161

I fail to see how the movie references make it a bad game.

It has very noteable flaws, but the references are not them.

Why remake a complete game? That will just ruin it

>>14802280

With that attitude we wouldnt have REmake.

>>14802287

exactly

>>14802295

Are you implying the remake of resident evil 1 isnt completely great?

>>14801039

so never?

>>14802324

>liking CV

>shitting on RE4

>>14802382

RE4 is a good game when judged by its own merits, but it's very clearly the point where the Resident Evil series died.

I fucking hate Resident Evil because it gave me a ryona fetish at a young age, now it's hard to play any of them

>>14800525

>tfw the guy who played Leon in that trailer died at 25 from an OD.

>>14802516

How did you even get that from resident evil?

Vore i would get, but no girls get beaten up in the games, unless you consider rebecca getting attacked by monkeys to be that.

>>14802528

It's not just girls getting beaten up lad.

>>14802469

It really isn't. To this day I still don't understand why people praise it so much. I'm starting to think people who do it because RE4 was their first RE

>QTE shit everywhere

>Bland story

>Bland environment and scenery

>Literal escort missions

>Shit villains

I seriously can't find it being good. Sure, I enjoyed it in it's time, but CV is far superior.

>>14802324

CV was a shitty RE, it doesn't hold a candle to the original trilogy.

RE4 even though it changed drastically it was a far better game than CV.

>>14802566

>Shit villains

CV had a literal crossdressing faggot and his stupid extended family as villains.

>>14802566

>Sure, I enjoyed it in it's time

That's what I mean: You had fun playing it, I had fun playing it, just about everybody had fun playing it.

RE > RE2

>>14802528

Resident Evil 2 has the violent death cutscenes and Claire's somewhat suggestive screams.

>>14802578

>CV had a literal crossdressing faggot and his stupid extended family as villains.

Alfred was inspired by the main slasher of Psycho, and by extension Ed Gein. You'd know this if you watched a good movie once in a while.

Alexia was a literal mad scientist with a fucking disturbing side story about how she infected her father with her virus and used him as a guinea pig and he lived as Nosferatu for years.

>>14802569

>CV was a shitty RE

Bullshit, while it lacks the improved controls and movility of 3, it more than makes up for it with interesting weapons characters, monsters, villains and setting.

>>14802578

I fail to see how thats a bad thing, specially because you thinking alfred ashford is the main villain shows your complete ignorance of the game.

>CV was a shitty RE

How good/bad are The Umbrella and Darkside chronicles games? I see they take a interesting vision in the whole chronology and I want to play some rail shooters but I also hear that they reused a ton of assets from another games of the series

>>14812775

I like them for what they are, spin-off rail shooters.

I played them with a friend to introduce him to the older resident evil games.

>>14802303

how lewd

People who don't want over the shoulder view are retarded tbh.

FPS > over the shoulder > hybrid between fixed camera walking and fps/tps shooting like alone in the dark reboot and cold fear >>>>> fixed camera shit

>>14812986

Then why were the fixed camera games better than the rest of the games.

What’s bad about them?

>>14813035

Because youre replying to tasteless bait.

>>14813035

>Then why were the fixed camera games better than the rest of the games.

Less linearity, better level design, absolutely nothing to do with the camera, the camera just hindered them.

>>14815092

Resident Evil would have been far less interesting in any other perspective and you know it. "Hindering it" my ass, it was the very thing that made it what it was plus the tank controls.

>>14800694

You should play Darkside Chronicles if you haven't. RE2 and Code Veronica storyline and locations are featured. The game takes you through similar paths and does a good job of preserving the atmosphere.

>>14815432

>Resident Evil would have been far less interesting in any other perspective and you know it.

RE1-3's combat was so boring and you know it. It's just an artificial challenge and you know it. Because it makes you unable to see the enemies right in front of you? Then just fix the their positioning to keep them appear unexpected even with FPS/tps camera, make creative use with corridors and containers. Because it would make the combat easier if you can just aim on their head? Then just put more of them or make them stronger.

>>14800621

As long as they keep the non linearity of the original game, it would be fine. What made 4 truly shit compared to it's predecessors was how linear it was (and the QTE thing, that was a shitfest), and it's sequels were basically 3rd person CoD with zombies. What made 7 shit was because it's full of scripted sequences, just like 4 again.

>>14815686

The combat wasn't really the main draw of RE you fucking tard.

It was slowly unlocking a large puzzlebox and later seeing how fast you can get through it. Why do you think we got 8 games in that style before RE4? And back then, the only people who said CV was bad were fanboys, and nobody really said 0 was bad till the HD rerelease.

The combat was only there to increase difficulty and add a challenge, which it succeeded at doing. The only RE boss that even came close to Nemesis was Professional difficulty Wesker.

>>14815686

> it would be fine

No, fuck off, someone that thinks that classic resident evil should be an FPS has no say in this matter, these games are not about combat, the combat is there to make the game difficult while you manage your resources and solve puzzles.

>>14816433

>The only RE boss that even came close to Nemesis was Professional difficulty Wesker

Do you mean challenge wise? Because Ultimate Abyss is mechanically more complex and harder than both. Rev and Rev 2 in general have the best boss fights in the series.

>>14817539

Daily reminder that Survival Horror is just Action Horror with shit gameplay.

>>14817854

>Daily reminder that Survival Horror is just Action Horror with shit gameplay.

>if i cant shoot all the zombies while running and jumping around is shit

Go play doom.

>>14800502

Resident Evil 2 Remake will be stuck in development hell for 10 years because video game companies can't make games anymore.

>>14817863

But you can't run, jump, or even move while shooting zombies in 4, and that has the best gameplay in the series. I actually agree that largely abandoning the series exploration/puzzle aspect was a bad idea, and I would prefer RE4's combat, but RE1-2-3-CV's level design and puzzles.

>>14817898

The games arent about combat you dense motherfucker.

This is exactly what im talking about, faggots like you that dont like the fucking games to begin with yet they demand that the fucking REMAKE of one of the best titles in the series be made in a way that panders to you, disregarding completely the original game just because you just cant think of anything that isnt run-run shooty-shooty.

Fuck off.

>>14817898

Agreed.

>>14817917

>The games arent about combat you dense motherfucker

Then why include it at all? Why not go full walking sim and just have more difficult puzzles? Because that would be boring as fuck, right?

So give me a logical reason why you can't have good puzzles supported by non-shit combat, and then everyone is happy.

>>14817947

>Then why include it at all?

Because survial with no possibility to strike back is boring and tedius.

>So give me a logical reason why you can't have good puzzles supported by non-shit combat, and then everyone is happy.

Because the original game wasnt like that, this is a remake of the fucking game, not a new one, you fuck off or kill yourself, you have no right to demand that the game gets changed because you dont like it to begin with.

>>14817955

>Because the original game wasnt like that

>you have no right to demand that the game gets changed

<the original failed in this aspect that was corrected in later titles, therefore the remake must also fail in this aspect!

I think you're taking the contrarian angle a bit too far, lad.

>>14817955

*tedious

If the games wouldn't be the same without the combat, you could argue that combat is integral to the games, at which point it's just an argument as to the flavor and implementation of combat. You don't think there are any worthy refinements to the classic fixed-angle combat? REmake already added a few new things.

>>14817981

<the original failed in this aspect that was corrected in later titles, therefore the remake must also fail in this aspect!

>if i dont like it its a failure

You double nigger, the game was an astounding sucess on its time, not all games have to be FPS, if you dont like the game in the first place then the remake isnt for you, youre retarded and you should hang yourself.

>>14817999

>the game was an astounding sucess on its time

Okay, so by using your own metric, RE4 sold better therefore it is objectively better.

>not all games have to be FPS

Anon I'm beginning to think you've never actually played 4.

>>14818020

>Okay, so by using your own metric, RE4 sold better therefore it is objectively better.

Thats not at all what i said, youre saying the game was a failure, it fuckign wasnt and spawned more games that played like that.

>Anon I'm beginning to think you've never actually played 4.

And im telling you to fuck off, if you wanna play 4 then go play 4, but stop trying to turn all of resident evil into it because you just cant deal with games not being about shooting everything.

>>14818027

>youre saying the game was a failure

No. See, this is why I think you're merely pretending to be retarded or playing the contrarian, because my post is right here to read >>14817981

Here, I'll spell it out for you, contrarian-kun:

<the original failed in this aspect

<aspect

If a remake isn't the best place to address said aspect to improve the product as a whole, what is?

>>14818040

Because that isnt a fucking failure you incredible retard, you can not like it, its fucking ok, but demanding the game to change when you dont fucking like it in the first place just because future games did it differently is beyond all fucking reason.

This remake isnt meant for you, you didnt play theses games, you didnt like them, why the fuck should they pander to you?

>>14818050

>you didnt play theses games, you didnt like them

I think it's time for you to actually scroll up and read through the thread. It's plain as day that you didn't. You can post again once you've done so.

>>14818058

Then fucking great then, lets remake all of Command and conquer like 4 just because its new so thats how games are meant to be, right?

And lets remake dungeon keeper but make it like the mobile game because thats popular, the original one was a failure because its not like that.

Hell, lets grab age of empires and make it a MOBA, that worked out super well for dawn of war.

>>14816433

>>14817539

Then how come is RE so much simpler and action packed than the series which concept it copied, Alone in the Dark? RE's puzzles have always been pretty dumb for a survival horror series, they were clearly aiming for a more action packed experience with timers and a lot of enemies that are avoided not by solving puzzles but by physically evading them, yet with crappy controls and camera that don't really support this kind of action.

The fixed camera and tank controls of RE was just a product of it's era. A lot of PC action games back then followed to formula of Alone in the Dark into their action-puzzle games, RE was just one of them. It wasn't a very good formula, that's why people abandon them unless for nostalgia purposes.

>>14818068

>lets remake all of Command and conquer like 4

I'd be unironically fine with remaking Red Alert and Tiberian Sun in the style of Generals.

>>14818077

Well said.

>>14818351

Hey man, most people missed that boat not by choice but by the limitations of the time.

Hell, RE7 makes outbreak canon and shows that at least the news reporter survived.

Also, wasnt the asian girl a umbrella researcher?

>>14818366

Yeah, back in the day very few could play it online, it was a bit ahead of it's time.

And yes Yoko was an Umbrella researcher, a low level one though.

>>14812775

The earlier games work well as an on-rails shooter. Those chapters are good. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about the bonus chapters. The contrast makes it apparent that Resident Evil lost its magic long ago and will never get it back.

>>14818077

>Then how come is RE so much simpler and action packed than the series which concept it copied, Alone in the Dark?

I mean, it only copied Alone in the Dark as a basis for the first game and did it better in more games.

>RE's puzzles have always been pretty dumb for a survival horror series, they were clearly aiming for a more action packed experience with timers and a lot of enemies that are avoided not by solving puzzles but by physically evading them, yet with crappy controls and camera that don't really support this kind of action.

The controls aren't crappy. They're tank. Tank controls are some of the easiest shit to master and I've never understood how anyone could fuck up at them. I grew up without tank controls, and when I was 12 and decided to go back and play my brother's copy of RE, I was like 'these controls are weird' for about 10 seconds and then fucked around for a minute and got used to them.

The only part of RE combat you can argue is crappy is the melee combat, but that's also why there's ammo everywhere and they have more guns than most survival horror game (and for retards who say all survival-horror games have to have shit combat or no combat at all, you only play shit like Amnesia, and when cite SH2, you probably played the godawful HD version. Survival-horror combat has never been shitty, just slow).

>The fixed camera and tank controls of RE was just a product of it's era

And it worked and gave us beautiful looking games because it used it's limitations to its advantage. RE3 isn't too much of a looker now, but back then it sure as hell was, and REmake and 0 still look good. Hell, with some touching up, GS4 and the Outbreak games would probably look beautiful on modern platforms.

>RE was just one of them. It wasn't a very good formula, that's why people abandon them unless for nostalgia purposes.

People stopped doing it because RE4 was successful and cause it's own brand of unimaginative, derivative TPS games that all look and play the same, and people say are good because 'woah spook'.

There's nothing wrong with traditional survival-horror gameplay. The issue here is you and your casual mindset. Get used to it or don't play. RE1-3 were a huge success on the PS1, as was SH1-3 on the PS1 and 2. REmake and 0 were huge successes a while ago, and they used this same formula you claim wasn't good, and say what you want about people pandering to REmake because it's REmake, but nobody gives a shit about 0 and that got good ratings.

>>14818351

>My major issue with RE "fans" is not giving this series the love it deserves.

I fucking hate Outbreak fans. I used to enjoy talking about it, but it's fucking terrible now, because all of them think they're in the minority, when in reality, everybody is saying Outbreak is amazing and you should play it online, because they never actually played it online and hear stories from other people about it.

Let me tell you how it was online, according to some people over at Project Umbrella.

According to them, it was fun for the first month (if you lived in places where you could actually play online, i.e., America and Japan), but after the first month, it was filled with speedrunners.

Outbreak is not some underrated hidden gem anymore. It's an overrated game that is REv levels of unbearable to play offline most of the time, and people talk out their ass about how great it is. Now, I'm not going to just give it shit, the added lore and characters are fun, but Christ the fans are retarded.

>>14800769

Irons was as dirty as it gets and he was in the know. He knew what was happening when the outbreak started and >>14800874 would make sense. If Irons knew or felt that he was infected, he had no reason to defend the city anymore as he was already dead.

>>14800611

I wouldn't mind over the shoulder if the game was built from the ground up to support it. RE4 made good work of it, because it still limited your fov and allowed enemies to reach you if you were too reckless. Throwing in enemies that could punish you (chainsaw guys) for letting them get close worked well with the new camera angle too. Having said that, if they do go third person, I'd like there to be an option to either go fixed camera or put it in the original game as a bonus with the original camera.

>>14800894

The Anderson movies are their own thing. The closest to the original games were the first two movies. Everything after that and even the second movie went completely off the rails. They're dumb action movies with bioweapons in them. They're more what-ifs than anything else considering how often the setting either changes or characters return from the dead. They're just meant to be dumb and fun.

>>14818351

Outbreak was a lovely series, but it was pretty doomed from the start. It was on the ps2, which only connected to the internet via an add-on. It also came out during a time in which dial up was still huge and dsl was still gaining traction. I would love for them to re-release it and give it a few touch ups and I'm sure it would make bank. It was just a fun game that came out at the wrong time. At the very least, it should have been co-op like 5-6.

>>14819946

Outbreak really should just get a re-release. If remake 2 does well enough, we might just see 3 and the outbreak series return.

I enjoyed 7 but the main character looks like a fucking jew.

I think an over the shoulder Re2 could be fun if they do the atmosphere right. I mean they have to do it P E R F E C T L Y. No roundhouse kick bullshit. Just classic Resi gameplay with gramphics.

>>14820049

>over the should

>atmosphere

>perfect

>no roundhouse kick

>classic resi gameplay

Are you having issues anon? Everything you said contradicts each other

>>14820148

heh maybe he had a stroke.

>>14820148

Resident evil 4 still had tank controls. You could even make combat even more intense in a 3d space by making the character's aim shaky when enemies get too close to the player character. It would play exactly the same but have an over the shoulder camera with 3d environments. Stop being an obtuse faggot.

>>14820200

>Resident evil 4 still had tank controls

But they were used with a different style of gameplay and different camera setup.

>ou could even make combat even more intense in a 3d space by making the character's aim shaky when enemies get too close to the player character.

That's more annoying than anything. I prefer the tight control and fixed camera angles of the classics.

>t would play exactly the same but have an over the shoulder camera with 3d environments.

So it'd play completely differently. RE4's camera is not meant for survival horror. It's why it produced games like DMC and their only solution was to use CV style angles and switch to over the shoulder when using your weapon (but that idea got shitcanned). Remove the QTEs if you want, you can't have tension if you can head shot your enemies and they stumble back for 10 seconds giving you enough time to run past.

>>14820222

Nigger who said a headshot will make enemies stumble? What fucking part of nothing else would change except the camera do you even fail to understand? I am not even going to reply to your next post. I am just going to filter you before I get sucked into your vortex of autism. Fuck off.

>>14802298

it's not perfect. It feels slower paced compared to the original and overall the style of the original is just more fun. REmake also has the problem of feeling empty when you don't know where to go and you're just wondering around an empty mansion. Not saying the original didn't also have this but it's worse here. As far as remakes go it can be considered "good". Maybe if they had 1080p(and higher) pre-rendered backgrounds, I could bump it up to "great".

>>14819933

>it only copied Alone in the Dark as a basis for the first game and did it better in more games.

RE sequels had even less puzzles than the first one while AitD games stayed puzzle heavy. I'm not saying which one is right or wrong, it's just that RE has always been the more action oriented take of the survival horror genre.

>The controls aren't crappy. They're tank. Tank controls are some of the easiest shit to master and I've never understood how anyone could fuck up at them. I grew up without tank controls, and when I was 12 and decided to go back and play my brother's copy of RE, I was like 'these controls are weird' for about 10 seconds and then fucked around for a minute and got used to them.

And I was addicted to RE2 on N64 emulator when I was 11. Just because the controls are simple doesn't mean that they're good controls. This and the fixed camera aren't really fitting in the action heavy gameplay of RE.

>The only part of RE combat you can argue is crappy is the melee combat

No, the whole combat is crappy. Your character just shoots at the general direction of the enemy, there little input from the player. What makes a combat good is how much control you have on the character you play, and here you have very little control. With the automatic aiming it's sequels and remakes had, there's even less and less player's input.

>And it worked and gave us beautiful looking games because it used it's limitations to its advantage.

So you care more about graphics than gameplay. Noted.

>casual mindset

Very elaborate argument.

>>14820229

That stumble is a necessary part of making the gameplay work, it's a sign you know your shots are hitting. The issue people had with RE6 was that enemies would sometimes tank headshots and brush it off.

>>14821068

>it's just that RE has always been the more action oriented take of the survival horror genre.

That's not an excuse to turn it into a TPS when it clearly worked better with fixed cameras.

>And I was addicted to RE2 on N64 emulator when I was 11. Just because the controls are simple doesn't mean that they're good controls.

Actually it does. If the controls are easy to get used to, they're good. They're not god tier, like Ratchet Deadlocked controls, which are probably the best we'll ever get for TPS besides Vanquish and RE6, but they're good, they do their job perfectly and everything they tried to add also worked well.

Also, RE4 had the same controls but from a different perspective.

>No, the whole combat is crappy. Your character just shoots at the general direction of the enemy, there little input from the player.

That's not crappy. That's mediocre. And the combat isn't the core of the gameplay until RE3, where they add enough mechanics and ramp up the tension so that the combat works better. CV is the only game where I'd argue the combat is crappy, and that's mostly because it took RE2's combat while trying to amp up the action from RE3.

>With the automatic aiming it's sequels and remakes had, there's even less and less player's input.

The automatic aiming was always there in the Jap version and in rereleases first of all.

Second of all, the combat was only really a central aspect of 3 and CV. In all other games, the central aspect was solving the big puzzle of how to get out of the place your in, and that was and always has been much more enjoyable than the combat heavy action games, where you just fight through linear rooms of the same enemies you saw 4 hours ago, with the puzzle of escaping and slowly unlocking taking a backseat or not being there are all.

>So you care more about graphics than gameplay. Noted.

Combat isn't the only part of gameplay tard. Gameplay is also the running around and finding items, reading through files, and avoiding combat when needed.

>Very elaborate argument.

I mean it is. The only people who say tank controls are bad are people who casualized themselves and think they're terrible just because they're a product of their time and limitations.

>>14821965

But RE4 is objectively better. I grew up with the series and had RE, RE2, RE3, and CV at release, and I loved them at the time. But after experiencing RE with non-shit gameplay, the older titles don't offer much anymore outside the nostalgia trip. Also you sound like you didn't play RE4 on Professional you fucking casual.

>>14821875

>it clearly worked better with fixed cameras

Says who? Says you.

>If the controls are easy to get used to, they're good.

The NES had a lot of games that controlled horribly despite only having 2 buttons + dpad. So did 2600, even less buttons. And it's not like WASD + mouse is any more complex than tank control, yet more controlable.

>That's not crappy. That's mediocre.

Same meaning pretty much?

>And the combat isn't the core of the gameplay

Try playing AitD 1-3 where most enemy encounters could be solved with puzzles, and even then the devs still considered it action adventure game. RE is pretty heavy on the combat and enemy evasion. In fact, it probably is the center of it because most of the puzzles are just simply putting objects in slots with very simple hints and riddles.

>Gameplay is also the running around and finding items, reading through files, and avoiding combat when needed.

And RE had little of those. In fact, I finished RE1 through 3 without reading a single file. They're just item fetching games, memorization of slots before finding an item, not highly puzzle games. Avoiding combat is mostly consisted of running past a group of zombies.

>The only people who say tank controls are bad are people who casualized themselves and think they're terrible just because they're a product of their time and limitations.

Wanting more control over my character is casual now?

>>14821965

>>14821974

For me, RE4 is only inferior because of how linear it was. Lots of shitty QTE sequences too. And don't forget about the ridiculously bad story and gay characters.

>>14822026

>Lots of shitty QTE sequences too

I agree, it would have lost nothing had they just had those moments be normal cutscenes.

>And don't forget about the ridiculously bad story and gay characters

Oh come on, that was definitely CV. At least 4 gave us Hunnigan and more Ada, CV gave us fucking STEVE.

>>14822045

RE4 gave us ashley, the retarded ape with boobs.

>>14822026

>The NES had a lot of games that controlled horribly despite only having 2 buttons + dpad. So did 2600, even less buttons

Except those games controlled poorly due to bad menu setup (see Metal Gear) or poor gameplay (which was usually limited to combat due to limitations of the time)

>Same meaning pretty much?

There's a difference between crappy and mediocre. Crappy is 2/10. Mediocre is 5-6/10. Good is 7, Great is 8, Amazing is 9, Perfect is 10.

>And RE had little of those. In fact, I finished RE1 through 3 without reading a single file

So you looked up a guide on how to make V-Jolt then, as that requires a file despite being simple 1+2 math problems.

>Wanting more control over my character is casual now?

No, the casual part comes in where you want RE4 gameplay, where enemies and bosses are piss easy, even on Professional, and the only challenge they can think of is to throw more of them at you.

>>14822221

Indeed, and Ada was a bitch who probably cucked Leon with Wesker or even Krauser, Hunnigan was a typical frigid 'independent woman that needs no man' while Ash was straightforward as well as being on her best age for procreation.

>>14822266

Well, he had a son, he was a man, he had random boners and a libido and he had Ada with him.

At least a blowjob while sitting in that chair of his should be perfectly acceptable, and rageraping Jill while saying how much he despised Chris as well.

>>14822353

when did he bone Jill? i'd like to check that myself, just to be sure you guys aren't joking

>>14822372

If I'm not mistaken, Jill was his prisoner in RE5, so…

>>14822372

Its fancanon.

Why would he turn her into his personal waifu then?

>>14823080

He doesn't look like that to me, if anything he looks like a beta.

Lucas on the other hand does look like he wants to take my shekels.

>>14823080

>>14823094

>>14826090

>this beady round eyes

>that chin

>that nose

Definitely a kike, although not the most kikey kike around.

>>14826125

That could be a Slav.

>>14823080

>>14823094

Is that Milo yinapolis?

>>14826156

No because he isn't a fag.

>>14822177

>Vjolt

RE1 wasn't it? I think I did, I was just a kid, don't really remember.

>the casual part comes in where you want RE4 gameplay, where enemies and bosses are piss easy, even on Professional, and the only challenge they can think of is to throw more of them at you.

Not really easy to me, I'm really not used to analog controls.

>>14826144

Have you ever fucking seen a slav? Sure, maybe the features I mentioned alone could be a slav but not if you have the reference picture.

>>14826423

No, nor a Jew up close for that matter.

>>14832943

I never got the fake leon thing.

RE2 leon was a rookie cop, RE4 was an upstart secret service agent, by later games hes jaded after all the bullshit and blueballing hes been through.

Anyways, best guy in RE is h.u.n.k. followed by billy.

>>14832965

The fake Leon thing is that RE4 Leon acts completely differently from 2 Leon and Degeneration Leon, and Degeneration follows up 2 better than 4 in terms of character consistency.

Gaiden also explains why Leon never helped Claire during CV

>>14832968

Well 4 was a complete shift in tonality and everything.

Previus games had crazy and silly stuff in it, but 4 is almost devil may cry level.

>>14832981

Which creates character inconsistency and makes these theories plausible. Hell, 4 made me a diehard believer of the Ada theory, due to her going from barely being able to beat Annette to killing hundreds of spainards and taking down a monster that took up an entire battleship

>>14833004

Well ada being a clone could totally be a thing, seeing how the weskers were test-tube babies.

>>14833011

Maybe Ada Wong is similar to the James Bond theory where James Bond is a codename used by multipler operatives? In the RE3 Epilogue, she said that her name was no longer Ada, so maybe it was just an Umbrella codename and disguise. Maybe there's a bunch of chicks that look like Ada, some combat operatives, some undercover info gathering operatives

>>14833032

But then why does she keep having the same face and always knows leon?

She definitly knew the umbrella researcher in 1 that talked about her.

>>14833038

>But then why does she keep having the same face and always knows leon?

Because Leon is a government agent and an anti-Umbrella operative, as well as anti-BOW. He is what would be labelled as an important individual, and having someone who can easily get to them is useful.

And the Ada we see in 2 and 3 is likely the same Ada from 1 who is trying to get rid of John or get more info.

All those clone talks, Leon was a clone, Ada was a clone…

I'm glad I stopped caring about RE after the fifth one, what a fucking mess.

>>14833062

Thats just wild speculation man, none of this is canon.

>>14833057

Leon is such a dork for still failing for ada's baits after this long.

>>14833062

It's theories, but Ada did have a technical clone, and a non-canon Gaiden BOW could copy appearances a la The Thing

>>14833065

>Thats just wild speculation man, none of this is canon.

Well, RE6 kind of confirm that theory with the whole Ada's clone subplot but then again it's RE6 so might as well ignoring the existence of that game is for the better

>>14833098

Ashley is a bad choice either way, he should have gunned for claire when he still had a chance.

>>14833102

I couldnt even finnish that game, man.

>>14832965

>billy.

I wonder what happened to him after 0, it's really strange that we never got to know about him after the game. I would really like if the developers instead of introduce more unnecessary characters into the canon, just brush up old characters that we haven't seen in while like Billy or Carlos.

>>14833173

With umbrella being now a PMC i could totally get behind carlos showing up again, he was a cool guy just like billyboy.

>>14833173

>>14833199

There are a bunch of MIA RE characters that need to return.

>Carlos

>Billy

>Piers (if he survived)

>Steve (if Wesker brought him back)

>Bruce

>Ark Thompson

Imagine if Steve came back in a Claire game, or if Piers popped up in a REv game.

You could bring back Piers and Steve in a REv game with Chris and Steve for one half, Piers and Claire for the other, so it's a Redfield with a person they somewhat know, both of whom have superpowers thanks to their virus.

Ark could be another candidate for a REv game, or Capcom could do the smart thing and remake Survivor for VR in the RE Engine (which would bump it up to being one of the best RE games if it had the high production value of 7).

You could also renew interest in Bruce with a port or a first person remake of GS4, but people probably wouldn't buy the port.

Carlos and Billy are already decently popular among the fanbase, while Ark is ShadowLeggy popular (as in only ShadowLeggy and her fans really like him).

>>14833292

>while Ark is ShadowLeggy popular (as in only ShadowLeggy and her fans really like him).

Kek, my nigger.

But yeah, i also still want a h.u.n.k. game but capcom keeps fucking up.

They can shit out a ton of cool spin-offs but refuse to do so.