/v/ - Video Games

>>14798498

Nah.

I had briefly hoped Pandora would be it, but it was missing that special something.

Beyond Earth (expansion mandatory!) tried but failed too.

It´s not bad, just a dumbed down prettied up whore version of the original.

Fun in it´s own right, for a while.

The things which make SMAC memorable have little to do with the game itself but with the setting and the flavor text. Civ 2 is arguably better than SMAC mechanics-wise and I don't think the mechanics introduced by SMAC add much e.g. the design workshop, which is often pointless on top of having a rather clunky interface. So there are already better games out there. But Brian Reynolds really did a fucking amazing job at crafting and selecting the flavor elements. Civ 4 took the idea of associating quotes with each tech, too, but most of them fall flat compared with the SMAC quotes.

Factorio could work as 4x strategy. Too bad there is only one side + bugs.

>>14798498

Nothing can surpass Master of Orion. Every sci-fi 4x lives and dies in its shadow.

>>14798685

>with the setting and the flavor text

I think the setting and factions are shit

>>14798726

Get Stars in Shadow, they are doing everything right.

(Sorry OP, for OT shill, but had to be said)

>>14798498

how do i get into this game

>>14798727

Shit with no redeeming qualities? Because, frankly, I don't care about the setting either. It could've been any other else, just as with the factions. But the whole way it was put together betrays some skill on the part of the creators, which is the case as with anything else in life. If you don't know how to different between stuff and structure you might as well be blind.

>>14798727

Which is to say that if you preference is entirely and precisely due to the setting, there's nothing to discuss. Thank you for speaking your mind on the topic, however.

>>14798895

click https://www.gog.com/game/sid_meiers_alpha_centauri

buy

play

>>14798498

It's called Aurora.

>>14799236

>Game-breaking bugs left and right

>Worst GUI I've seen in my whole life

>Several hours of zero combat gameplay required to begin a game

>Literally spreadsheet until you get well into the game

Mediocre taste

>>14799875

I mean, the only accurate criticism in that list is the comment about spreadsheets, and I'm not sure how exactly that's supposed to be a bad thing.

>>14800000

checked

>>14800000 (czeched)

Good bye thread.

>>14800005

>I've actually tried playing the game seriously twice and both times after spending a few hours my save got fucked by some gay bug.

If the game throws an error you can almost always keep playing. There's a specific bad error that pops up very early sometimes but you most likely passed it if you played a few hours.

Sometimes the game does slow down but that's because it's simulating NPR combat.

>>14799893

I'd put MOO2 right alongside. The perfect sequel.

>>14798727

You're a nigger

>>14800129

Best way to learn is to practice

Second best way to learn is to imitate

Look up video tutorials on youtube of each individual effect you want, starting with the basic interface gameplay

>>14799236

Will the Cwhatever version will have resizable windows? I'd like to be able to play on my laptop without it being a massive chore.

Alpha Centauri was a mess. The whole thing dies in a horrible fire of micromanagement hell as it has the popcorn base problem of some other civ games combined with the ability to build on water. You either get an early victory, play casually, or quit out of frustration at turns that take an hour.

The only civ that really worked mechanically as long as you avoid the exploits was civ 1. They've just kept adding more ever since when what the game needs is less. It's like dorf fort now where games die from either excess micro or excess CPU.

>>14802183

Yeah, that's the plan.

>>14798498

SMAC truly is a masterpiece. It did so many things amazingly well. The unit workshop and terraforming Planet system, both of which gave you enormous freedom and so many options. And the atmosphere. I haven't played a game with better worldbuilding in all these years. It's really sad that nothing has been done with the franchise in 20 years.

yeah it was called space empires v, and it's not even the best space empires game

>>14798498

Picked this up a couple years ago. Loved everything about the setting, the characters, the story, even the quotes were great considering that they were all basically pseudo intellectual dribble made up for non existent technology.

But I could never get into the gameplay. It ultimately suffers from the same problem every civ game has which is that the only way to get good at it is to exploit the AI. Each game either has you out on top from the beginning and completely unbeatable, or miles behind the leader. The optimal strategy is to spam supply crawlers, which feels like cheating since the AI doesn't use them. And if you want to get around the bad AI by playing multiplayer, the game slows down to a day long slog since humans players are nowhere near as fast as the computer.

>>14803604

I think that's because the game is almost 20 years old. I agree that the biggest disadvantage to the game is the gameplay, but it's fun to roleplay with at least.

>>14798726

Literally any of the Galactic Civilizations games are a direct and objective upgrade from moo.

>>14806654

This. Only problem is that late game the game turns into a nightmare to manage everything. Turns drag on when the real fun comes from combat, research, expansion, not micromanaging 30 fleets across the map.

>>14798498

Yes there will, but there isn't one that currently exists.

>>14798727

>I think the setting and factions are shit

I think you enjoy daily waterboardings in horse semen.

>>14807485

Probably the only space 4x worth playing at the moment. Its the closest thing you can find to Stars! that'll run on a modern machine. When you finally start taking off the AI training wheels the game is a blast.

>>14806666

They're all shit though, how is that an upgrade?

>>14809921

>I think you enjoy daily waterboardings in horse semen.

Don't project your fantasies on me

>>14798726

Master of orion 2 is my fav 4x. Is 1 really better? How?

>>14814620

wait for a sale can usually pick it up for $20 unless u wanted to rip it first b4 making a purchase

>>14810442

It's more elegant and not as micro heavy.

>>14814620

Its for 1/3 now on GOG.com. Or just pirate it.

>>14814620

On sale NOW: https://www.gog.com/game/distant_worlds_universe

.. and I´m agonizing like crazy if I want to pick it up or not.

>>14816331

What game also give you customization your ships like in MoO2 and starsector\Space Rangers?

>>14800000

You have autism the likes we've never seen before.

>>14798498

>pic

Is that a viable strategy?

>>14817560

In the first few civ games, yes. Cities work the center tile for free, after all. Morgan in particular can't grow past size 4 before inventing habitation domes anyway, so he might as well spam cities instead of going for big ones.

>>14817560

It's better to double the spacing until you unlock satellites (only plant every other city) since you need more minerals from 2 boreholes to get infrastructure up, but yes.