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I'd fuck that wuff

>>14796857

yiff in hell furfag

>>14796854

>what's so jewish about them?

wait about 3 years for them to begin updating the drivers to intentionally perform worse on your hardware. AMD on the other hand, is usually pretty forward thinking and often AMD cards get some decent gains over time. I can't convince myself to upgrade from my 390 currently.

>>14797024

I don't think it's smart to expect it all the time but the support the GCN GPUs ended up getting is incredible. If you got a 7800 series card 4 years ago you're bound to have gotten better support and performance improvements than probably any other GPU on the market.

AMD is absolutely the same as Nvidia except they can't make good hardware period.

>>14797147

no lol

AMD GPUs haven't been worth anything since they stopped being ATI's. The HD 5800 series was the last time they were legitimately leading - first to have proper DX11 support, great specs and thermals. I think it was ATI's big hail mary to try to save the company and they put everything they had into it. Today they're just a "value" brand.

>>14797155

>passive aggressive

Well at least you got dubs

>>14797173

The GCN architecture was great and Fermi was a disaster with AMD offering the only real alternative. The problem is Nvidia had absolute control over the market so even if they made absolute shit (which they did) it still sold better and they could grow wildly and keep tossing retard amounts at R&D and here we are now.

>>14797183

>I don't know what being passive aggressive is

quiet retard

>>14797072

Both AMD and nvidia still have shamefully short GPU support.

There should be a law in european states and the US that prohibits manufacturers from actively supporting their hardware for less than 12 years.

>>14797229

Nah, I'm not even sure if I follow what you're saying, but if you're saying hardware should be getting constant updates for the latest software platforms for 12 years then no

>>14797236

quack 3 where they butchered their visual quality for performance but that was 17 years ago

whats wrong with nvidia? they do every single dirty trick in the book with a smile

they killed off 3dfx right after buying it

they tried to scam their own customers with slowdown vram for fucks sake

>>14797247

3dfx killed themselves off

1170 is disappointment

>>14797024

Anon I don't think that's true.

>>14797251

right nothing do with nvidia rushing gfx cards and taking over the market and then buying 3dfx few years later

>>14796963

>Either way I wish there was more competition in the GPU industry

I wish the GPU industry would die altogether. We're less than 10 years away from 32+ core GPCPUs and 64gb RAM for standard PCs. We probably don't need extra triangle co-processors anymore.

Especially when we have the compute power to move to virtual geometry using sparse voxel octrees.

Everything and everyone is Jewish except me.

t. /pol/

>>14797024

AMD is also in a position where they can't hide anything from the community since their drivers are open source and they release documentation about the internal workings of their GPUs.

>>14797332

>Everything and everyone is Jewish except me.

>t. /pol/

t. 100% anti-Gentile jew

I used to own an R9 295 x2, water cooled, AMDs flagship premier card from a few years back. The card itself was a beast however AMD cancelled all driver support. This was a 1500 AUD paperweight which couldn’t run: Alien Isolation, Shadow of Mordor, gta 5 and even started stuttering on payday 2.

After about 2 years of bullshit I flogged it off for a 1080ti, haven’t regretted it since. I was staunch AMD until they fucking abandoned their premier flagship card for cheap affordable garbage. Say what you will about nvidia but I doubt within the next 2 years they stop driver support for their 1500 aid card.

>>14797103

This. I won't sadly change Nvidia anytime soon. They might be morally better than Nvidia, but AMD is really fucking shit in a lot more instances when compared to Nvidia. Performance is what I look for in my hardware, which is sad since those AMD campaigns are really nice.

>>14796854

It's like the United States presidential race. You're forced to choose a "lesser evil", but they're both kosher and at the end of the day neither is really acting solely in your interests.

>>14797412

I'm in the same boat. Emulation is a niche that's very important to me, and the 2700X has worse single thread performance (which is something extremely important in emulation) than my 3570K from 2012. That's just unacceptable, and that means that when I upgrade later this year, the 8700K is my only option. On the GPU side of things, I know I'll be able to go with the flagship 1180 or 2080 card and be good for a solid 4 years before I need to start dialing settings back, and I know I'll have good driver support the whole way through and won't be getting fucked over by gameworks.

Would I like to support AMD? Absolutely, but they just don't meet my performance goals.

>>14797437

I think you're probably just using shitty emulators with hardware rendering. The only accurate PS1 emulators (Mednafen or Beetle's SW core, and then Xebra) all use software rendering which is handled by your CPU. Intel blows AMD the fuck out with those as well, but I don't think it's a GPU issue.

>>14797240

Alright I'll give you that one. Still I don't think it's fair to say that AMD is just as jewish as nvidia given all the recent controversy.

>>14797469

I hope you're not still using epsxe today, fam.

>>14797474

https://www.comparably.com/companies/amd/competitors/nvidia

Technically AMD is 12% less jewish than Nvidia in their workplace and hiring practices, but AMD is still pretty fucking pozzed. I don't think it's in the consumer's best interest to have any loyalty whatsoever to corporations, though. Identify your specific needs and then pick the best product for said needs, nothing more.

>>14797433

yeah I have a 6700K myself purely because of single thread performance

>8700k

Eh?

Intel is forcing Windows 10 on everything past Skylake though, and you have to run a fix on Skylake to get Windows 7 installed and working with it.

>>14797510

These new cpus should be able to run loonix and escape the botnet though.

The software part of it anyway.

>>14797513

>loonix

escaping the botnet is good and all, but I want to play games.

>>14797229

The 200 series cards are 5 years old and still supported, but I believe they are leaving support soon. That seems pretty reasonable to me, and it's not like they suddenly stop working when support ends. "Legacy" drivers will likely be sufficient for a few more years.

I'm waiting for whatever happens to the market after the next nvidia line drops, but will there be better deals than 425$ 1070ti?

>>14797541

>will there be better deals than a mid-end GPU that costs 200 bucks more than a game console

there probably won't be considering the way things are going.

>>14797510

Yeah, I'm not happy about the inevitable move from 7 to 10, but eh, it's going to happen sooner or later. Not like I'll be paying for it.

I haven't paid for windows since ME

>>14797255

Bioshock Infinite showed performance decrease.

>>14797553

no I mean windows 10 is just flat out worse in every way compared to Windows 7. It has less game compatibility and is overall just worse, you'd only need windows 10 to play the newest of the new shit, and I can't think of a single or group of windows 10 exclusives that I'd give up my unpozzed version of 7 for

If you're going for shit like emulation on something that doesn't have it very well right now like OG xbawks, it won't reach a point where something is suddenly that much better with a hardware upgrade or anything like that, plus in terms of costs of upgrading and all that shit, it would just be cheaper, and better overall in terms of games actually working better to mod and hack old consoles you'd buy instead

but that's my opinion

>>14797337

Wrong, AMD has both open source and closed source drivers, both of them have different codebases, which was already a reason for a lot of trouble for AMD open source driver contributors.

>>14797581

>It has less game compatibility

Examples?

>>14797581

Speaking of Xbox:

>Xenia is exclusive to Windows 8.1/10 because fuck you

I'm rooting for RPCS3.

AMD has opensource drivers, this makes them already much less jewish then nvidia.

>>14797651

Barring the necessary microcode to make it work, it's true. They actually pay people to make the open source driver while Nvidia just laugh their asses off at open source attempts.

>>14797609

this is an anecdotal example but it did happen with me, I couldn't play my burned disc copy of Diablo 1 on my Windows 10 laptop. I installed it, and then all I could get was the Blizzard Entertainment screen, and past that it would always crash or some shit.

I installed it from the disc and ran perfectly on my PC with windows 7.

>>14797927

for the most part you won't really need a new GPU for some time. I'm struggling to think of new PC games worth playing let alone high end ones that would require a $400+ GPU. There was an anon in another thread talking about how he just bought a 1070 and a 144hz monitor to play games from 2015 and back which baffles me because you can probably get a much cheaper GPU that handles that perfectly fine.

>>14796854

Speaking strictly about GPUs

AMD

>good long term support

>better price performance ratio

>cheap variable refresh tech

>hardware made with some of the future innovations in mind

like proper hardware level Vulkan/DX12 support and the likes

>not prone to really anti consumer bullshit

doesn't mean there's none but it's limited to confusing rebrands and other stuff of the same caliber

<poor immediate support

<no high end

<miner will ruin prices and AMD will not try to mitigate it

<driver support outside of Vulkan is mediocre and downright terrible with modern OpenGL

mostly important if you wanna emulate on windows, the open source linux driver is still mediocre but has much less issues than the closed windows ones

<power hungry

Nvidia

>good immediate support

>low power consumption

>proper high end models

>decent driver support

Just don't blindly install the latest, that goes for AMD too but more so for Nvidia

<will try to fuck you over at any given opportunity even for the dumbest thing

<poor long term support

You do get drivers for your old shit but it's very likely you might prefer not installing them

<hardware purely made for the "now" meaning you're likely gonna have to buy a new GPU to take advantage of some newer innovations (RIP Kepler users)

<terrible pricing unless for the most part

<actively try to fuck over not only AMD users but also Nvidia GPU users with techs that could have been good (physx etc)

I'm not gonna elaborate on intel, they manage to combine the worst aspects of both of the other two and I seriously can't think of why one would buy their discrete GPUs when they come out.

CPU wise with Ryzen+ there's barely any difference for the regular users, I can't think of many uses where I would definitely go for a 8700k over a 2700X, maybe some niches of emulation or 120hz+ monitors but even then if it doesn't run on a 2700X chances are the 8700k isn't gonna fare much better except RPCS3 because muh TSX

>>14796854

There's the Nvidia 4GB cards where only the first 3.5GB was any good. The last 0.5GB was much slower to access, so any game using it would draw a game to a crawl. This made it effectively a 3.5GB card.

Then there's the whole Nvidia Gsync vs AMD Freesync. Both are essentially the same thing, but AMD's Freesync is actually free and integrated in the Displayport standard. Gsync monitors, on the other hand, are more expensive than freesync monitors.

Nvidia has pulled a lot of anti-competitive shit over the years.

PhysX is an example of this. You can run PhysX on an Nvidia card, but because people actually discovered you could use AMD cards for rendering and Nvidia cards for PhysX, Nvidia decided to "patch" PhysX and make Nvidia cards refuse to run it if an AMD card is detected in your system.

There's also plenty of accusations and rumors about Nvidia Gameworks making games deliberately run worse on AMD cards, but the above are all factual at least.

>>14797412

It's a virtue to act independently of material incentives presented in pursuit of a moral choice. If no one did the world would be further skewed toward monopolies and large corporations who out scale and out compete the smaller ones.

It's the same dilemma between Steam and GoG; disagreement and Mumble.

>>14798347

In the case of online storefronts nobody here has many excuses for not using GoG or some other alternative over Steam, because of being able to pirate software. You can't pirate hardware though.

>>14798398

If the idea isn't clear, then it's a similar dilemma with Windows vs Linux too.

>>14797977

144FPS is no joke, and a 1070 isn't nearly fast enough to hit that for some of the must-play 2015 games, so I'm at a loss as to what lower end (and presumably slower) gpu you think can handle that.

>>14798417

i've never seen the point in 144hz unless you're a counter strike or overwatch enthusiast

many games don't actually run at 144hz and, as you said, that amount of frames on high settings for recent games is nearly impossible for even a GTX 1070. that's why I've stuck with quality IPS panels, overclocking to 75hz is good enough for me.

>>14798630

>i've never seen the point in 144hz

Maybe you haven't seen 144 fps either.

are vega wunderwaffen drivers out yet?

doesn't really matter because Epyc tears Intel a new one as we speak, but we need AMD to step up their GPU game

>tfw Vega56 almost as expensive as 1080Ti in Swedistan

Trying to build a PC right now is hell with really only CPU prices being reasonable.

>>14798347

Would you listen to yourself? You're talking about being between a rock and a hard place and pretending there is a winning option.

>>14796854

Gameworks is fucking jewish, the fact that newer driver slowdown cards on purpose is jewish etc. And not to forgot that their packages are nothing more than datamining pieces of shit.

>>14797363

Your card is still supported by the latest normal AMD drivers.

>>14797433

>the 2700X has worse single thread performance (which is something extremely important in emulation) than my 3570K from 2012

That is simply not true. The 2700X is about 20% faster than the 3570k in single thread performance. That's not a lot, but rpcs3 also takes advantage of multi core performance and the Wii U emulator probably too.

>>14798814

> but rpcs3 also takes advantage of multi core performance and the Wii U emulator probably too.

RPCS3 require tight syncing which is hampered by the dual CCX design,an,d generally high latency the only real advantage you get is that LLVM module recompilation is much faster since it can run 16 jobs at the same time and those are completely isolated from each other with TSX adding 40% perf at the minimum and being intel exclusive there's simply no point getting an AMD CPU if your sole goal is using RPCS3

CEMU can't really take advantage of more than 4 core, runs well nonetheless unless your goal is 60fps locked BotW.

during mining craze imagine buying nvidia cards to further rising prices, soon your card will cost more than your pc, hell it does already

>>14796854

All of it is cynical corporate strategy/marketing. Nvidia is winning and trying to strangle AMD out of the market, AMD has to play the cool guy and give people free shit to attract and maintain a devoted consumer base who will purchase their products simply to spite the "great evil" they make their competitor out to be by pretending to be conspired against and downtrodden at every turn.

Neither company gives a fuck about you.

>>14796963

Sorry for new faggery but is pic 1 legit

a-at l-least I-I c-came b-before T-trump

>>14797927

Splintery wooden bat anon

>>14798881

This. Companies exist to make profit, AMD simply can't afford to act like nvidia does because they're weaker on the market.

AMD is simply less competent than nvidia so far

>>14798953

You missed the fucking train if you bought an Intel CPU. AMD GPU's may be dogshit, but Ryzen is BTFO'ing Intel constantly, while Intel is revealing their total incompetence with massive hardware security vulnerability after massive hardware security vulnerability.

>>14798971

>Ryzen is BTFO'ing Intel constantly,

Nah, not in equal footing comparisons. I've seen a lot of dumb videos, like this one fucking nigger comparing a Ryzen 5 against an i3, and acting like it's an equal comparison..

If they're locked multiplier CPUs, then yeah, Intel's CPUs are being beaten in multithreaded tests. But it's comparisons like 3200 MHz vs 3000 MHz chip overclocked to 3900 MHz, because all Ryzen chips are unlocked. Zen isn't a bad platform, AMD is finally going places, but Intel is still able to outdo them in performance.

The i9 still beats Threadripper.

>>14798988

>i9

>ever

>>14798988

>The i9 still beats Threadripper.

Purely if you look at raw performance and nothing else, as a platform Threadripper holds just fine, not to mention even the $2k i9 still use bird poop instead of iridium solder under the IHS.

All comanies are owned by jews, and should be aggressively repossessed by the people.

Kike genocide and Socialism are what will save the west.

>>14796854

>technology

>jewish

Oh boy I can't wait for the circus stunts a POLtard is going to go through to explain this one.

>>14797523

what you're saying is bull, there's even support for the old 4870's for example

>>14799126

>there's even support for the old 4870's for example

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Driver-Support-for-AMD-Radeon%E2%84%A2-HD-4000%2c-HD-3000%2c-HD-2000-and-older-Series.aspx

No

I don't know maybe the retarded price gouging and clear collusion between the two companies

nvidia has used every dirty trick in the book, why is anybody even attempting to defend any of shit?

GPP was just one them it has pulled recently

>>14798925

Do you have actual documented proof that nvidia drivers consistently degraded performance of outdated video cards?

>>14799166

>basic business practices

>exclusively jewish

Wow it's like I am on /pol/.

>>14799206

I've got a bunch of old Nvidia GPUs, a free PC, a capture card and free time

Find me a complete driver history for Nvidia and I'll see what I can do.

>>14799243

http://www.guru3d.com/files-categories/videocards-nvidia-geforce-vista-%7C-7.html

Goes as far as 2013 at least.

>>14799330

>Goes as far as 2013 at least.

Needed down to either the 9xxx release or win 7 release but I found it on my end. (I'm panning to test on a 9800GT, a 460 1GB and a 770)

Next question, what benchmarks would be good for that?

I need something that's still gonna run on the 9800.

So far I have

>Lost planet 2

>Resident Evil 5

>F.E.A.R

>Crysis

I'd rather use games with builtin benchmarks and no synthetic ones (aka no 3Dmark/furmark/unigine shit), but if you've got an idea for a game that has an easily reproducible scenario I'm all for it

>>14797694

Couldn't you just set compatibility mode to windows 7?

>>14799358

It goes further to 2006.

Do you want to prove your claim or just find more excuses?

Or are you going to say that 12 years worth of drivers is not enough?

>>14799412

First off don't be a bitch I'm only even bothering to plan doing that because I'm bored, I don't really give a fuck what you believe

Second If you actually read my post you'd see I already found the older drivers on my end and I'm now asking for games with proper benchmark tools.

>>14796854

Wasn't there some sort of open world game or something that came out a year or two ago that was running badly on AMD GPUs and it wasn't until people started digging that they noticed the game that was nVIDIA CERTIFIED™ was basically generating a ton of little graphical processes beneath the hood that no one noticed as far as visuals went… IF you had an nvidia card.

Otherwise these little things were designed to fuck up the way AMD rendered graphics as it was known that AMD cards didn't like these sorts of calculations.

Wish I could remember game it was.

>>14799487

Crysis 2

>>14799487

it was crysis 2 i think? i remember that shit did a metric ton of heavy ass tesselation on everything if it detected an amd gpu but i don't remember exacly what game.

>>14799423

will be monitoring

last vidya card i bought was manufactured by ATI. nvidia made me hate them, and i dont trust AMD to be competent.

>2shitsphillip

FUCK OFF.

shill your eceleb on cuckchan. hooktube still gives the video views.

>>14799462

>>Just Cause 2

Nice, also has 3 different benchmark demos

>>Bamham Asylum

>>Metro 2033

Will try those without PhysX, PhysX is retarded especially on the older games

>>Dawn of War 2

>>Total War: Shogun 2

Seems good too but that might be a problem if I also post the thing publicly afterwards, don't have a legit copies of those, I don't think so at-least, and I don't particularly care about some guy getting me into trouble for shits and giggles over a pirated copy of a game I wouldn't have ever bought.

Also adding Far Cry 1 to the list since it's pretty light and has a good benchmark tool.

I thought about GTAIV for a second, but that's really not a good idea

>>14799533

Not sure I'll be done by the time this thread is dead, I've got poverty tier internet and already 40GB of games ( probably more than that even since I'm still looking for more games with a benchmark tool) and over 5GB of drivers to download

Will post a thread when I'm done and probably will keep an eye out for hardware threads to update whoever cares.

>>14799487

Crysis 2 had overkill tessellation, and even hidden tessellation balls behind the environment, AMD cards suck at that, Nvidia cards don't.

AMD fixed that by simply not doing all of the tessellation operations if it detected something tried to do a lot of those iirc, and some mods simply redid the assets which managed to both look better and run smoother.

>>14799613

>>14799491

>>14799521

there it is. Thanks anons

the real answer to all this bullshit is more competition that would actually forced people to design good cards for good prices too, but lol no we're stuck in this binary world of shitty giant vs less shitty competitor.

>>14799613

>Will post a thread when I'm done and probably will keep an eye out for hardware threads to update whoever cares.

You could always just create a youtube account and shill it here for future reference. So that way if people dont happen to catch the future threads or forget then they will be notified from subscribing.

As for games with benchmarks, Devil May Cry 4 is a must since should run on a cheap ham radio from how well optimized it is.

>>14799387

I did every compatibility mode settings I could and nothing worked

>>14799613

b-but i like physx…

>>14799643

>but lol no we're stuck in this binary world of shitty giant vs less shitty competitor.

Soon to be 3 with intel, which is basically gonna be even worse than Nvidia if their behavior with IGP is any indication

>>14799651

>You could always just create a youtube account and shill it here for future reference

I kinda already have one, not sure if I can create a new one over that, and I don't want to shill YT on here regardless.

>Devil May Cry 4

I kinda already have 3 MT framework games on the roster but whatever it's a good one anyways

Adding World in Conflict, Far Cry 2 and Hard Reset

Might add RTCW if I figure out how to run the bench for that, just for completeness sake, having a DX8 game isn't a bad idea

I'm also adding Shitman Absolution because I somehow have that game and it has a benchmark tool

>>14798664

It's not about winning.

Why would I support the current market leader that is trying to obtain a monopoly if the alternative just means slightly worse graphics in my video games? Why would I further the step towards a monopoly if a monopoly outright controls and hurts the market?

Larger corporations with market dominance always were able to provide general material incentives to pick their products because they usually outscale their smaller competition. But it often comes at a cost beyond the a price tag- if you picked disagreement over Mumble, or Windows 10 over Linux then you sold your privacy, even if you got your YouTube embeds and image previews in a chat client, or your exclusive video games. If you recognized not selling your privacy was better, then you didn't support your ideals either and probably won't until the going is good like a mop.

It's the options in the dilemma to support your ideals rather than being bought out by whatever material incentives put before you.

Fuck all of you queers, I just got an Nvidia TNT2 16MB for my smoking fast windows 95 build

>buying any new GPU

>or indeed new game

Fags!

>>14799707

This.

Furaffinity just updated its TOS yesterday to deplatform the "alt right" while allowing antifa to remain. While the site was long shitty, it was the final nail in the coffin for me.

Point is, it was a "market leader" and I fucked off from them because it was cancerous so I could support other sites

>>14799698

>I kinda already have one, not sure if I can create a new one over that, and I don't want to shill YT on here regardless.

Just create another gmail account with a throw away email. I do it all the time when I dont want to use my main. Either way im suggesting this more for archiving reasons than for publicity.

>>14799737

Why don't you just use PeerTube? People can subscribe via RSS, you don't get a 15 min upload limit, no restrictions on commenting i.e responding to people, and you can access the video via torrents.

>>14799761

And you don't have to give out a fucking phone number.

>>14799761

>>14799764

Was thinking of using Bitchute instead, but it seems you have to register to subscribe on there, this is better.

>>14799718

>Win95 build

Can it run Fatal Racing at a stable 30 fps?

>>14799718

>win95

>using GUIs

>buying hardware accelerators

>not playing Zork only

get lost goyim

>>14799412

>>14799423

I just remembered that this video exists. Granted, it's about Windows 98 and AGP cards but is still proves graphics drivers have gimped cards before.

>>14798884

https://wccftech.com/amd-catalyst-omega-drivers-unleashed-radeon-gpus-aseries-apus-adds-4k-super-resolution-enhances-performance-gpu-line/

yeah

AMD cards are meh run choppy and are unreliable as shit but are/were cheap.

Nvidia cannot for the life of them make drivers any better than the ones you get with their card so 'updates' fuck with your shit nearly every time unless you shut them off, at least their shit works though.

>>14799718

specs?

>>14799938

Something tells me the last Radeon card you used is from 2002.

>>14799698

>Soon to be 3 with intel, which is basically gonna be even worse than Nvidia if their behavior with IGP is any indication

We can get a 4th niche one growing when free and open source gaming grows. Already games like Xonotic can run on ARM systems, or possibly any non-conventional desktop CPU/GPU if recompiled on that system. I tried tried for Battle for Wesnoth or other games yet.

>>14800146

> ARM systems

If anything I'd put more trust into the POWER arch overall,

ARM has already been rooted by the current major x86 players or worse (best GPU arch for ARM is Nvidia, best CPU arch is Apple) and it's never gonna reach the same power as x86 just like x86 is never gonna reach the same power efficiency as ARM.

>>14798635

I have, I've owned 144hz in the past. Wasn't a game changer for me and I missed IPS colors. Not to mention 144FPS is isn't attainable at high settings in recent games.

>>14800227

Which ever architecture it's going to be like RISC-V, etc, if a game is libre then there's a generally good chance of getting it to run there.

I've always wondered about Nvidia, are they that much better than AMD? I'm going to get a new rig come November with no expense spared, I want to run battlefield 2018 at 60 fps on ultra in multiplayer. My current rx 480 and fx6300 can barely manage 45 fps with every setting on low/turned off in bf wewuz. I would like something better but I'm so familiar with AMD and how they work, as well as not knowing if Nvidia is just marginally better while wanting double for their shit. Should I make the jump anons?

>>14798347

Except GoG does everything steam does, Steam just have a large library. Also, fuck smaller companies if they can't catch up.

>>14800299

The RX 480 should be fine, if anything the Bulldozer chip is what's likely holding you back.

>>14800299

It's your CPU limiting you, BF1 is very CPU dependent and a 6300 is ass. I've got an i7 and get a variation of 20-30 fps for every 10% CPU usage from background programs. If I were you, I'd whatever ryzen is within your price range, as they're the best price/performance deal right now, then upgrade your gpu only if necessary.

>>14800349

>9800 GT

That reminds me, I've got a 4650 that crashes on anything but the default Windows 7 drivers and I don't know the hell why.

>>14800363

Even still, a 6300 isn't that bad. Looking at bechmarks on Youtube, most of them are above 60 fps on low settings even with a 1050.

>>14800434

>but the default Windows 7 drivers and I don't know the hell why.

Likely because those drivers keep the card at low power clocks

>>14800453

I'm pretty sure that card predates stuff like gpu boost and such by half a decade. Anyway, hardware utilities reported that card running at it's rated speeds on the stock driver anyway. The card is physically in good condition and worked fine running 3d applications. It was a refurbished card I bought in a bundle from Visiontek during black friday for something like $5, so it's not like I lost much money on it.

>>14800505

> It was a refurbished card I bought in a bundle from Visiontek

That reminds me

>frequently go around the refurbished page of a tech site to see if I can grab something good

>2nd mining bubble bursts

>suddenly a lot of 500 Fury at about 400 bucks pops up

>sold "as new, very little sign of use"

Only complaint I have about AMD cards is low compatibility for ancient graphics plugins for emulators.

That's gotten better lately though. I still want new graphics plugins for ps1 emulators, we finally have the tech for broad GPU based Gbuffers on cheap cards.

>>14800565

You can put the blame on bad OpenGL drivers for that.

Linux opengl drivers are better, surprisingly.

>>14800565

>I still want new graphics plugins for ps1 emulators

The only guy even trying is too busy to finish it, and it's not even a plugin but a whole emulator using OGL3.3-4.x

>>14800299

Nvidia usually isn't better it's that they bribe developers with exclusive "tech" to make production "easier" usually this includes software deliberately designed to cripple performance for AMD cards that Nvidia can basically make sure has little to no effect to their own.

>>14800575

Why would you make an entirely new emulator for that? The graphics environment is almost totally isolated.

>>14800615

Because the dev wanted not only to make an emulator but to document the PS1 better than it currently is, can't do that if you just make a plugin, but his intention iirc was to make the renderer part portable if need be so that it could be put back into something else.

>>14796963

>AMD deserved more credit than I remembered.

I was building my first computer at that time, went with amd, 8230e & 380, specifically not to give intel a dime, after pandering to the outrage industry. I didn't even see these ads.

>>14800620

That's fair I guess.

>>14799731

>implying that wasn't just a diversion to distract people from the rapant pedo shit in the fat fur community (which dragoneer(site director of FA) is part of).

>>14800299

>My current rx 480 and fx6300

there must be something wrong somewhere else I have 6350 but same gpu and I was running medium/high 60fps

to OP. AMD is still the (((modern))) company with them supporting Gays and Trans in their company or something like that. still they have a lot of catching up to nvidia in terms of performance and business practices.

But they will never get better than 30 percent marketshare because everyone and their mother shills for nvidia even if they release worse product or make mistake.

>>14797437

The devs themselves dont make the emulators compatible to AMD they just dont bother to that small marketshare

>>14798780

Says AMD on their website, the drivers don’t work properly for the X2. I had a folder with 8 sets of drivers I’d have to uninstall and reinstall to play certain games.

>>14798825

Like I said amd still supports its cheap junk, but the X2s driver support was abysmal. Buy one cheap and give it a try if you don’t believe me. The Witcher 3 was the game that made me throw up my arms can get a 1080ti.

Off you could show some initiative and google “amd r295 x2 driver problems” and check the pages of people complaining about it you pair of vapid troglodytes.

>>14800363

Ryzen 3 is within my price range, would that be a worthy upgrade or is it "go big or go home" for cpu purchases?

>>14801509

The 1600/2600 are a better choice

>>14799214

Basic business practices are

>make as much product as there is demand to maximize profits

>price your product at a point that maximizes total profits (Selling 100 things at $15 is better than selling 70 things at $20)

Not

>ratcheting up your price through the fucking stratosphere

>pretending you're having trouble making enough to meet demand

>>14799166

To be fair, if we're talking their GPUs that's more of an issue with cryptoniggers and MSI/ASUS/whatever

AMD started bundling it with cpus to try and stave off crypto faggotry

>>14801509

ryzen 3 is fine and there's an upgrade path forward. also if you can't afford a GPU the 2200G and 2400G have excellent IGPUs that compete with $100 nvidia cards.

>>14797363

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with you anon, their flagship support is strangely utterly abysmal and it is infuriating.

t. Own an R9 Fury that was advertised as "VR Ready", and AMD still hasn't added support for Async Time Warp for HTC vive headsets, which is kind of a big fucking deal with a card from 2015 and vr. Otherwise it's been all right. >>14797363

>>its ok cause we make money

fuck you drones, but muh card i have to protec it, fuck you

>>14800356

>GoG does everything steam does

Are you retarded?

>>14803642

>2592 tests in total

Imagine your disappointment when you'll learn that the whole "nvidia cripples drivers" thing is a meme perpetuated by amd shills.

>>14803713

Read the thread. One anon posted a video that they did indeed cripple driver, especially in the past. >>14799874

>>14803713

>Imagine your disappointment when you'll learn that the whole "nvidia cripples drivers" thing is a meme perpetuated by amd shills.

And then thanks to that you'll have some military grade autism to shitpost at them, what's not to like?

>>14803730

>paid shills on jewtube

>proof

It's as much proof as >>14797255

>>14803742

I honestly don't belive that you'll go through with it and just drop it after few attempts.

But if you do, it will be glorious.

>>14799938

> 'updates' fuck with your shit nearly every time unless you shut them off

What? Nvidia doesn't update unless you specifically let it.

>>14803776

> Nvidia doesn't update unless you specifically let it.

GFE is pretty insistent, and you can accidentally trigger it since iirc it's a single button with no confirmation to launch the install.

But then who the fuck keeps GFE around nowadays.

>>14803788

Everyone with a brain stopped using GFE once they introduced log-in bullshit.

Then again nothing wrong with datamining retards so they can whale out more dosh.

>>14803760

>shows evidence of nvidia fucking up

>explains how he did it

>can easily be replicated

>oy vey its a shill

Really nigger? If it turn out that autism anon finds out that nvivdia is still doing that shit you'll call him a shill too wouldn't you. You're stupid to think that a company be it nvidia or amd wouldn't pull this shit in order to keep selling newer cards.

Until AMD starts getting first party support I'm not touching them.

Are hex/octa cores and TITAN cards a meme? I want a PC that will at least last me until 2022 and won't have a fit every time I alt tab out of a game or have 100 browser tabs open

>>14803800

>shows evidence of nvidia messing with drivers being false claims

>explains how he did it

>can easily be replicated

>oy vey its a shill

It can go both ways amdboi.

>>14803829

>if you think companies will mess with drivers software on purpose you're an "amdboi"

>boi

Hello cuckchan.

>shows evidence of nvidia messing with drivers being false claims

If that happens than I'm wrong, so be it. If the opposite happens you'll be the one crying shill again. And so far the opposite happened.

>Buying stuff from jews

>Not making your own computer-parts that runs waaay faster and better than the shit people buy

>>14798774

>DPC latency was because of Nvidia

Thanks for the valuable information, anon. I had same fucking problem for years and now I know why.

>>14803806

>more than 4 cores

There's a problem: if there were competent people everywhere in industry, you'd obviously want moar coars, but as it is only some games use more than 4. Supposedly there'll be more games with >4 core support, but do you trust pajeets to do it? Plus many games prefer high clocks to cores anyway. That is, if you're not GPU bottlenecked, which you most likely are. As for TITANs, I think so, high-end GeForce cards have better support.

>>14798637

>still no answer

dayum

>have geforce2mx 32mb as a kid

>it even runs hl2 and doom3

years pass

>fall for radeon meme (480 i think)

>overheats out of ass, crashes at few seconds of full load, straight up faulty

>get mad, refund it

>get a good one from xfx, it works but is loud like hell still and heats up whole pc, return it

>buy 970

>hear about 3.5 shit but unbothered by it

>it breaks somehow after 1.5 year

>get free 1060 from the shop

>no problems, life is good ever since, even start appreciating fur tech and physx in few games that allowed it

why even bother with radeon

>>14797316

>32+ core GPCPUs

You know GPUs have thousands of cores, right?

still have my rx 480 it maxes everything on 900p or 1080p

8GB RAM is sweet

for atleast year AMD has really stepped up their driver work too, monthly it seems at the moment

occasionally have to use stuff like SpecialK and ReShade to spice up stuff other than that, im pretty happy

i usually decide to go for 1440x900 and limit fps around 50 so it would feel supersmooth

Sapphire card btw

>>14804108

I had amd that lasted 10 years and one that lasted 1 year. wow modern things are not build to last. what a revelation

bump

Now here's something interesting

Up until the Fermi release drivers OpenGL games were broken as fuck on Nvidia, even something as simple as Serious Sam TSE

Seems like DX8 performance decreased at that point in time too

Also interesting for an entirely different reason, Serious Sam Fusion runs mostly fine on a 9800GT with drivers that came 8 years prior to the release of the game.

>>14811667

Did I miss anything? I've been moving my PC back to Windows 7 from 10, and it's pretty tedious probably not as much as your driver bemchmark

>>14811878

>Did I miss anything?

Not really, unless you care about lewd games on steam.

>probably not as much as your driver bemchmark

Most of it is waiting, I just do something else on a second screen.

>>14804108

>Be this retard

>Buy garbage card

>Probably a shit cooler, no name components, maybe even a green PCB

>Its predictably shit

>WOW AMD SUCKS

AMD makes the GPU and maybe BIOS, thats it retard . You bought a GRAPHICS CARD from a GRAPHICS CARD MAKER and you made a STUPID CHOICE because you are a FUCKING MORON.

If you're going to shit on AMD at least do it for the things they do wrong.

>275.33

>DMC4 crashes 3/4 times I boot it

>randomly gets huge lag spikes

This is where the fun starts

>>14812216

Supposedly there's a driver out there that can brick your card. Be careful about that, or you might screw yourself over.

>>14812096

oy vey buy the same product for 100$ more because it has a fancy backplate and a black pcb. It MUST be better even if it uses the same cheapest chinese components!

>>14812317

There's several I know of, one just fucks with fan control (196.75), one is much latter and I think only affects pascal (382.xx) and there's another one that can seriously fuck cards because it disable overcurrent protection and that's from around the 590 release (266.xx)

But yeah apparently 275.33 is a piece of shit, I can't even get 3 run of DMC4 without crashing.

>>14812374

I might try doing my own benchmarks on a 7600 gs sometime, any advice?

>>14812320

Funny how the situation is basicallly the opposite in current year. The Linux open source AMD driver is great while the propietary Nvidia driver is spotty at best and Noveau is a joke.

>>14812326

Yes of course, because buying things that are not shit is the same as buying the most expensive one you can find.

I really wish AMD wasn't a huge fucking joke on the highest end of performance, and an imposible to get overpriced mess at 1070 tier performance or lower. Doesn't help Nvidia gets 3D vision while AMD has jack shit for driver 3d forceware; I had fun playing games in 3D when I could.

>>14812678

The best I've got in terms of capture hardware is old TV tuner cards and some VGA to Composite/S-Video/Component adaptor from a Goodwill I'm missing the VGA splitter I need too

I shouldn't have any issues with intergrated video since my free machine is a Core 2 Duo with no igp.

I dunno about performance gimping since I'm not seeing any real indication of at-least not in a generalized fashion, but holy shit was I right when I said support was shit.

>crashes

>limited / full color range fuckery

>input lag that appears as randomly as it disappears

>random loss of signal to the capture cards on some drivers

>>14812320

>Mantle

So did Vulkan/DX12 helped emulaors in the long run or not?