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You can't really "fix" NMS because it's not so much broken as it is just a (poor) tech demo without an actual game to back it up. It's like talking about fixing a car when all you have is an empty shell with a horrible paint job.

>>14792422

My plan is to give it the game, give it an actual storyline and have it be enjoyable. I really enjoy just the "jumping between planets getting resources" shtick but it's insanely repetitive with nothing new to invest time for. I want to change that.

>>14792413

>How would you fix No Man's Sky?

What's a point?

>>14792442

The point is to fix No Man's Sky's shortcomings. I think the concept really has some ground behind it, and I want to add to that good gameplay and a good storyline.

>>14792413

>How would you fix No Man's Sky?

Invent a time machine go back in time and cuck Sean's dad?

>>14792413

Have you actually seen the recent updates? they kinda went back and for the last few years since the overhyped garbage early-access game was out, they've been slowly re-hauling it, half of the shit you cited is on the game.

>>14792437

No, sure, I get what you're saying, but you're creating an entire game anyway at this point. What in NMS in its current state is worth preserving and building around when you can just completely start over? Even the procedurally generated planets all have the same shit in them, it's not even diverse enough to be worthwhile as a resource for another game.

>>14792481

I guess I fucked up when I wrote the thread title. I want to create a new game while keeping the concepts.

>>14792413

>How would you fix No Man's Sky?

Abandon that shitpile, use the proceeds to buy rights to Spore from EA, and create the game we've been promised.

>>14792639

I like the way you think. I would play the fuck out of a proper space safari game where I can deck out my house with alium trophies.

>>14792598

That jab at VtM:B was completely uncalled for. If you're going to let people that are enthusiastic about a game impair your enjoyment of it, you need to take your meds.

>>14792413

I think about this sometimes too. One thing that I think would work because of the ridiculous amount of planets is truly destructive weapons, planet destroying weapons. Who cares if a single player destroys hundreds or even thousands of planets? There are 16 quintillion of them.

Really with No Mans Sky you can do whatever you want, I would abandon the "game" as it currently is. That is, no inventory space or survival mechanics in general, except maybe as an optional mode like Fallout NV hardcore mode. You could have interesting questlines, flesh out combat, or do whatever you found interesting. Also I would love to play this >>14792639

>>14792413

Throw it into the trash and start over. NMS is unsalvageable trash, the only good thing about it is the idea of traveling space, but it would be easier to make a new game than try to make no man's sky good. The engine probably can't even support half of your ideaguy shit to begin with.

>>14792654

For some reason I read "eldritch" as "lovecraftian" but either way a lot of lovecraft's monsters are from space for example the mi-go from " the whisperer in darkness" are from a planet called Yuggoth, now Pluto; in "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadeth", the protagonist is taken to the moon as a prisoner to be sacrificed to the god nyarlathotep he escapes because the cats fly from uranus to rescue him.

I would use a flamethrower to fix it.

>>14792639

So monster hunter in spess. Well it may work.

Main point of the game is to have conflict. Basic premise of every MMO. Why do grind stuff? To kill enemies you can't kill before. NMS special perk that trophies not only can be difficult to kill, they can be difficult to find, that makes sense to search hundreds random planets for rare unicorns.

I'd add in some lootboxes and a battle royale mode.

>>14792720

This. It has so much stupid shitty executions of fine ideas that you're better off building the game from scratch

OP here, thanks for the comments. I think the OP title makes it sound like I'm modding the game, which is a misunderstanding. I will try to write a game from scratch, using the core concepts of No Man's Sky and fixing where it falls flat.

>>14792598

Interesting ideas, but I'll be a faggot here, this is not the kind of game I'm looking for. But that gives me an idea: what if the game becomes a meta-game with community-created installable storylines? That way you can have multiple storylines with the same base game. Might be a bad idea though.

>>14792639

This could be a addition to the game's endless mode, where you collect trophies like this.

>>14792654

A souls game sounds pretty fun. To be honest space games have a lot of potential going for them.

>>14792694

>Really with No Mans Sky you can do whatever you want, I would abandon the "game" as it currently is. That is, no inventory space or survival mechanics in general, except maybe as an optional mode like Fallout NV hardcore mode. You could have interesting questlines, flesh out combat, or do whatever you found interesting. Also I would love to play this >>14792639

The survival/exploration concepts are essential to me. I absolutely enjoy the idea of finding new worlds. My idea was to keep the exploration while still having canon/a storyline as the main focus.

>>14792746

I'd rather put random loot boxes you have to buy keys for.

:^)

>>14792794

>It would add an extra layer of learing diffrent Xeno biology, letting the player get better reward by figuring out where an alien's weak spots is.

This is a really nice idea.

I wouldn't make it to start with.

If I wanted to explore space and planets and shit I'd just play Space Engine or something.

content that matters and isnt recycled

i know i know it goes against "everything procedural endless universe yo"

but it doesnt matter if there isnt good compelling stuff there, a good chunk of it atleast and you can procedurally generate the sidestuff

>>14793026

Meh. I wanted to get some experience working on game development and wanted to do something like this, so I decided to get some peer review.

Just turn it into a sci-fi big game hunting simulator. Imagine.

>>14794664

I like this, plus loot with many prefixes and suffixes tied to the difficulty of the defeated foe/planet/ship.

You can't polish a turd.

And the shit was made by numale soyboys and a faggot abomination. Nothing good will come from them.

1. Instead of a procedurally generated galaxy full of empty, procedurally generated wildlife that looks retarded and procedurally generated factions that have nothing interesting about them narrow down the game to a single solar system and populate it properly. Give it maybe a dozen planets, two or three of which have local flora and fauna (and different biomes) and make sure the animals and their interactions are interesting and there is a point why the player should bother with them. Populate the rest of the planets with colonists, alien ruins, etc.

1a. Someone else mentioned hunting aliens, and this is one way to make the gameplay interesting. Put a bunch of interesting apex predators, or agile herbivores on the planet that are difficult to catch but also get you a lot of money and prestige if you do.

2. Nail down the core gameplay, especially the handling of the ships and combat. Make sure the ships are different from each other, even if there's only a few the player can actually use, and allow for proper customization so the player can make the ship his. If you're including surface exploration, again, make it fun and interactive, with lots of options.

3. Include a proper storyline with branching story paths, factions you can join or betray, allowing for the player to strike out on their own. New Vegas is a pretty good example of how to handle this. Also, avoid the pitfall of making the player everyone's errand boy, or an armchair psychologist.

I would throw it in the garbage where it belongs and then gas everyone that spent money on it.

>>14792413

Just tone down the hype.

I would replace all future downloads with a video of Sean Murray getting fucked in the ass by a horse.

>>14792413

In my version I'd not even try to have fancy graphics but take a roguelike dungeon crawler approach where planets resemble dungeon levels and get harder the closer to the home of the progenitors in the center of the galaxy they are. You'd explore planet surfaces and mysterious ruins for rare raw materials and working progenitor technology to help you fly to, scan, and tackle planets with harder randomly generated monsters and better loot which you can keep for yourself or bring to Earth to sell. For example you might find a planet where there are three-headed behemoths with hides made from hyper steel. Maybe on another planet there are rabbit-like creatures with hyper steel fur, but you have to deal with what you can find, and finding planets with any hyper steel this far from the core might be far from easy. A working progenitor navigator system allows you to eventually find the progenitor home planet, fight the final boss, and find out the backstory behind the ruin of their civilization that left the galaxy mostly devoid of intelligent life.

>better flight controls and combat. Put way more effort into space itself. More eye candy, wrecks to explore etc. Basically try to combine Everspace's flight and space experience with NMS' ground and gathering mechanics

>Land rovers are deployed from/stored in your ship once they are built

>add actual fucking multiplayer

>ability to mod upgrade and customize ships.

>ways to buy ships (ship yards etc) beside literally buying a person's ship from them

>option to manually pilot freighters.

>option to hire npc escorts

>flight stick support

Most of my changes would be about turning it into more of an actual space sim

>>14792413

I would make it an actual game.

I'd "fix" it by giving all of its budget to the Elite Dangerous devs.

>>14809486

>Elite Dangerous devs.

You realize ED's problems are the developers themselves, not budget shortages. A larger budget won't make them put back in the promised offline mode, develop a dynamic economy or add meaningful player interactions like finally being able to buy sell and trade items money and ships with other players like every other fucking MMO ever made. In fact, you give them that money and they'll just funnel it into making some shitty theme park builder mobile game instead of spending it on ED.

Make the worlds look actually good, fix the lighting, and remove all NPCs, so you have to go to decrepit machine run stations of a fallen empire spread throughout space

>>14810010

>buyer's rationalization: the post

For those that did not believe in the developer's invasion, Numale's Sky was announced to have a multiplayer mode, as well as an X Bone port.

Failed developers of failed games are the ones creating threads like this one to try to get ideas for free from anons.

Don't give them ideas for free.

And even more important: don't help or support developers that hire LGBT abominations.

Add multiplayer :^)

>>14792413

There's no need to fix the game it was just overhyped. It's fucking fine.

>>14825187

subspace/continuum still exists?

>>14792413

just put some fucking gameplay in it.

>>14792598

>>14792437

>>14792413

>>14792422

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>>14826841

As somebody who was the actual game's target audience, in that I just wanted a chiill sandbox to explore and roam around in and seee what the random number generator makes and take cool ass screeenshots and I didn't eeven really want a "game" out of it,, all I really wanted are the following

- For the graphic to have not been downgraded

- For planets to have actual planatary physics and solar systems

- For there to be more flora and fanua variety on each planet, and some sort of actual simple ecosystem systeems, with animals preying on each other, moving on herds, having life cycles, etc

- Having the table of elements system mattter, and have the composition of planet's atmopsheeres and soils determine their apperance and traits and the sortt of animals and plants that are there

- Add in Nvida ansel support like they promised so I can make huge ass 100,000 x 8000 screenshots. No, the photo mode they did add isn'tt a fucking replacement. Fuck you

I never gave a shit about the MP, or the gameplay, and I STILL never bought the game because tthey blundered and didn't implement this shit even though tthey implied or outright said it'd be in the game

>>14792639

>>14794664

This would also be cool

>>14793026

That's what I wanted out of it: A space engine that actually also worked on a on foot scale, not just a planetary one. I litterally had low as fuck expectations and just wanted pretty shit to look at and see and even I was dissapointed.

>>14792413

>I like the endless galaxy sandbox concept

That's your problem right there.

It's a retarded and stupid concept that can only lead to emptiness and disappointment.

It's a textbook "cool idea on paper, shit idea in reality".

procedural content is meaningless

this thing needs meaning to exist

>>14832282

Never wish for deformed kikes to do anything.

Encourage the glorious japanese to do it instead.

>>14831377

Not true.

>>14831377

What about Minecraft?

I would make good game first and randomly generated universe for it second.

>>14808440

It's real but the account was 'hacked' aka one of the employees was so embarrassed with how poorly the game was received on release shitposted on their social media accounts.

Best way to fix No Man Sky is to go back in time and erase it from the minds of everyone in existence.

>>14862590

I don't know what copypasta you're modifying for this, but I absolutely fucking love it. If you want a story, find the girl crashed on a moon or something, bring her with you; she becomes the domestic element–the reason you come back to your ship every night after a hard day's trophy hunting. You expand and buy new ships, eventually you have a wonderful home with her there. And there I go again; ignoring the sexual aspect of this entirely and just desperately craving real, intimate, emotional human contact. Because it's right.

>>14792413

Short version OP

>Add actual game

The problems with NMS can be broken down to absurd levels, like having "infected" bases that are full of murder tentacles, but having the game forcefully holster your gun so you can't shoot indoors and ruin the illusion by trying to harm an NPC, but ultimately, the problem is that there's no solid gameplay. There's kitschy little mechanics like turning resources into special types of fuel and then painstakingly sorting your inventory to find space for them, but the gameplay isn't there. There's nothing to fucking do. The planets are empty and boring. Space is empty and boring. It's a fucking boring non-game that tries to make up for it's lack of depth with navel gazing Philosophy 101 musings, and MUH DEEPEST LORE bullshit that even a faggot like VaatiVidya wouldn't waste his time investigating.

>>14862606

>I don't know what copypasta you're modifying for this

>>14862839

damn i love that show

Having spacefish things that eat asteroids or what not is a good solution to the endless emptiness. Ayylmao animals need not be confined to their planets

>>14862590

>Turn the Gek into sexy short stack space jew goblin girls

>Turn the Korvax into fembots in skin tight body suits

>Turn the Vy'keen into muclebound amazon oni chicks

>Artemis becomes a half naked human looking Barbarella knock off who you can visit for booty calls inside her sim pod if you choose to upload her soul into the computer.

There, I fixed the game

>>14863089

It'd get just as boring eventually though.

>>14863095

I read that as gex and got excited.

>>14883680

Gex games were never good tbh.

>>14892748

t. underage

>>14859392

And a shave.

>>14792497

This. Spore has the actual engine capable of producing a decent amount of sufficiently different planets. What the fuck does NMS have? Creating 19 quadrillion planets means jack shit if they are all just recolors of each other. What kind of game is that?

Basically buy the Spore franchise, fix all the bad parts and make it a more fun game.

Hello Games should have started by seeing if exploring a single planet was fun, then ten, then a hundred before promising so many. Minecraft does the whole infinite space thing better anyhow.

>>14810348

>>14831213

Bingo. Right here. The answer is making the game actually have a story. Going to the same recolored planet for the millionth time is not a story. Testing one's patience, understanding and wit with other characters is a story.