9b4aa1 No.14786264
>Steam/HTC releases Vive Pro with 2880x1600 resolution (1440x1600 per eye) for $1400
>"Original" HTC vive pricecut to $500 - still 2160 x 1200 resolution (1080 x 1200 per eye)
>Oculus releases the Oculus Go, "completely standalone vr headset" (marketing jargon translation: it will play shitty phone/cardboard games and last 2 hours) for 250 buckaroos
>Oculus still hasn't released an updated headset - Rift's resolution is still 2160 x 1200 (1080 x 1200 per eye) for $400 (comes with the wireless controllers)
>Other companies trying to get in on the market
>Dell releases the Visor for $300 (w/controllers), 2880x1440 (1440x1440 per eye)
>Lenovo releases the Explorer for $250 (w/controllers), 2880x1440 (1440x1440 per eye)
>Samsung released the Odyssey for $500 (w/controllers), 2880x1600 (1440x1600 per eye) currently has the best resolution (same as the vive pro's) for it's price range not shilling btw, i bought a refurbished vive
>tons of knockoff chink shit
>nigga what even is OSVR lol?
>StarVR consumer release NEVER EVER
>Microsoft Hololens has no competitors currently, still costs a wopping $3k
>Leap Motion closed application store, currently no alternative
>no VR headsets with 4k resolution commercially available
i have a theory that nobody is willing to release a 4k headset because the hardware requirements would be ridiculous, which would greatly limit their potential customer demographic to those who could afford such hardware
>still NOGAEMS/LO-GAEMS
>3d controller meme getting adopted more and more
>Anon still /agdg/ing shinobu project
When will the autism and jewry die down, and the quality begin?
de6bb2 No.14786307
>>14786264
>When will the autism and jewry die down, and the quality begin?
Not any fucking time soon that's for sure.
d93789 No.14786315
While the current situation does suck, it has to start somewhere.
645c2e No.14786350
No one knows what to do with it yet. Everyone is producing trash while trying to learn the systems while they wait for a real killer app to release that can be cloned ad infinitum. imo the controllers are the problem. Regardless of which headset you pick, they're shit.
649e77 No.14786373
>>14786264
>When will the autism and jewry die down, and the quality begin?
When someone releases a FOSS SDK that people can use across multiple headsets to make games that pajeet churns out. Followed by those FOSS SDK devs making a game themselves that is quality and then copied ad infinitum. Problem is no one is writing that SDK for developers because you would be torn to peices if you released it under your real name by all these giga kikes who want (((royality fees))). Combine that with low quality poos in the loos being the majority of software devs and you get shit hardware and software.
6617ff No.14786374
>>14786264
VRChat is the game that I had the most fun in in a decade. Stop being a defeatist.
884e2e No.14786398
>>14786374
>glorified chat room with no gameplay whatsoever filled with 30 year old neckbeard weeaboos posing as anime girls, 11 year old unfunny memers who still use Ugandan knuckles memes, and disgusting furries is the pinnacle of fun you can get from a VR helmet
Really activates those almonds
9b4aa1 No.14786415
>>14786374
I tried VRchat but for some fucking reason the buggy piece of shit won't let me join any active servers.
2d33a5 No.14786465
Reminder that an effective art style nukes the shit out of nausea concerns with low resolution VR
e983f6 No.14786499
The problem is everyone is trying to build their own walled garden where you're forced to play.
Mixed Reality only works on windows 10, and not even all versions of windows 10, meaning it is incompatible with something like 80% of desktops.
The Vive pro is overpriced, doesn't work with 7 for god knows what reason and is trying to get you to subscribe to their Viveport bullshit.
Don't even need to talk about Oculus, everyone knows what bullshit happened there.
Someone just needs to produce a headset with drivers that work on all current versions of windows and Mac OSX and doesn't come with some sort of bundled store or subscription bullshit. Of course, that is about as likely as linux gaining noticeable market share.
6617ff No.14786513
>>14786388
>You need a VR headset to play VRChat.
d6d154 No.14786562
Without total body movement, VR is niche and for the disabled and devoted masturbation enthusiasts. If the legs aren't involved, it will never be worth it.
d3de00 No.14786582
>>14786513
But you can't dance like a slav with keyboard and mouse, anon.
f6142e No.14786583
>all this emphasis on resolution
In all honesty, how large of a factor is this in VR stuff? I run a pretty standard 1920x1080 with hardware that usually only runs modern games on low graphics. Does 1080x1200 per eye look that bad to be a major factor, or is it the difference between getting 60fps vs. 120fps? I won't deny that I was interested in VR (primarily for flight sims), but couldn't be convinced to shell out the better part of a grand for one.
2e148d No.14786592
>>14786264
>not shilling btw, i bought a refurbished vive
>i dont suck cocks, only used ones
aayyyylmao
2d33a5 No.14786617
>>14786583
It depends on the game. Different aesthetic styles lend certain strengths and weaknesses when it comes to resolution scalability.
9b4aa1 No.14786648
>>14786499
>Mixed Reality only works on windows 10
and even worse it only works on Windows™ 10™ Mixed Reality™ Approved™ Headsets™, which doesn't include the Vive or the Rift.
Which is pretty shit cause there's not a decent VR desktop for either right now.
>>14786583
Do you have a headset? The "screen door effect" is pretty noticeable on anything under, like, 2/4k. Just get a 1080p screen and push your face close enough to it so that the borders of the screen are just outside your peripheral vision, and then cut it in half.
>>14786592
Nigger it was like $300, fuck off.
>>14786617
I'm not so sure about this. Aesthetic can make a game look better on a standard screen (just look at any aesthetically pleasing game that was made during the dawn of 3d vidya), but it's a different experience on a headset setup.
d4a179 No.14786725
>>14786583
>grabs the clip so fast the magazine can't even push another round into the chamber
b5b879 No.14786782
>>14786350
The controllers/methods of interacting with the visuals really is the crux of the issue here.
You simply can't plop a person INTO a 3D environment and have them waggle two sticks with buttons on in the air and have it seem anything close to fun or satisfying, and to top it off every company that is trying to fix the issues is going about it retardedly by putting condoms in gloves that inflate to simulate touching things when it would be far easier use TENS electro stimulation to make your muscles feel like they are working against forces in a more accurate way along with measuring what your muscles are actually doing at any given point.
VR absolutely requires your body literally being the controller for it to work, and with TENS you can feel like you are moving while you are sitting still, micro movements can quickly become sprinting across the playing field and at the end of the day you just spent 4 hours playing a game that was giving you physical therapy, and if you are a real masochist you can dial up the charge to the point that it's painful and you would easily start building muscle while doing fuckall.
0192b0 No.14786786
VR can be really cool but it's plagued by a number of problems. Developer cowardice and stupidity, capitulating to weak stomached whiners, being concerned more with being a VR showcase than being an actual game, cables getting in the way of movement, bad character movement solutions, a stupid amount of different hardware possibilities: controllers and idiotic headset/software lock-in, etc. I tried Serious Sam VR and the awful 'jumping' movement ruined the entire game. The difference between VR using just head rotation and VR with location tracking and motion controllers is pretty significant. If you've tried the former but not the latter you really haven't experienced what VR has to offer. But the fact is VR is severely lacking in openness and innovation.
07b1a6 No.14786843
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>2 May, 2018
>overwhelmingly positive
c70568 No.14786854
>>14786374
DO U NO WE WAD
LMAO
93299a No.14786925
>inb4 gypsyposter shows up to do massive damage control for the vive pro and vr in general.
845d49 No.14786939
>>14786374
it's a chatroom. Go actually talk to people.
0dc056 No.14786943
>>14786562
What about cockpit based games?
e4495c No.14787011
>>14786943
there's a lack of modern flight/space sims that aren't either p2w shit or all around shit. Supposedly Elite Dangerous' VR experience is amazing, but the problem is that it's still just fucking Elite Dangerous.
91bed1 No.14787056
So sitting within a couple feet of a monitor can fuck up your eyes some already. Have there been any studies on how destructive essentially gluing your eyes to a monitor is?
7d2e23 No.14787100
>>14787011
By cockpit games I also mean any kind of racing game that gives a 1st person view. I always wanted VR F-Zero or WipEout.
ea5286 No.14787158
>>14786513
>>14786582
So basically VRchat is Wired.
2e148d No.14787167
>>14786648
>Nigger it was like $300
aa3a42 No.14787178
>>14786264
>When will the autism and jewry die down, and the quality begin?
Never, its a gimmick and a meme. VR will only work when you are not strapping two monitors to your face.
cabb2d No.14787198
>>14786264
>>14787178
You know, the gimmick is worse when its science fiction gimmick. Everyone believes it works because its written in books and shown in movies. But nobody learned that maybe that piece of shitty idea is actually uncomfortable and will be jewed for huge price as a hardware piece. Not to mention requiring specifically made games for them.
You will never get more comfortable setup for video games than a gamepad and a tv. VR is for pretending to be immersed because of 3d effect of doubled monitor on your eyes while doing nothing immersible mentally or intellectually.
Even reading a fucking book is more immersive than virtual reality.
0e5f93 No.14787211
>>14787056
That eye damage thing really only applies to CRTs (which even on that I can't confirm it's not just BS) or exceptionally bright lights. Sitting within a "couple of feet" is completely fine (how fucking far away do you expect to sit?), the only issues are if you get eye strain or never look at any other focal length for your entire life, which applies to literally anything.
1f2290 No.14787219
Anon you donut its called 'falling for the vr meme' for a reason. 5% or less of the consumerbase for games means no dedicated high quality games will ever be put out, which means nobody buys it in significant numbers so hardware and game quality will never increase.
You buy VR you buy this generations kinect and only have yourselves to blame. Remember the reaction then? how is sad bastards going "S-SOA anyday now, 3 years worth of semen!" about monitors strapped to faces any different?
Come on lad, wise up.
aa3a42 No.14787221
>>14787198
yep, you can already get immersed in a book, or a screen or stage play. VR will only work if it can completely take over all your senses and shove you into an actual alternative perceived reality without the need to suspend disbelief.
229936 No.14787255
>>14786939
>Go casually chat with underage girls in real life anon
>It will be fine anon
No thanks, I'm almost 30 and have visible sadness in my eyes. No one would want to talk to me if they could see who I am in real life. I'm not even a fat guy, I'm pretty fit. Just world weary.
1f2290 No.14787266
>>14787255
>i want to slut it up online with virtual lolis as small echidnas cluck at me
>i'm world weary
no anon you are just fucking lonely.
aa3a42 No.14787267
>>14787255
Its not your eye idiot, its you dragging your shitty attitude everywhere.
229936 No.14787274
>>14787267
I can fake it in vr. Not so much in real life.
aa3a42 No.14787282
>>14787274
Some people just won't be saved.
1f2290 No.14787291
>>14787274
>tfw you realise the other anon may actually just be a very smart cow with sad, doeful eyes. The blackest eyes. The devils eyes.
9b4aa1 No.14787369
>>14787198
>gamepad and tv
>comfy
nigger do you even keyboard?
f659b8 No.14787673
>>14786786
Jumping is a result of fundamental VR control problem.
First your line of sight and point of view tied to head movements. This is good, this is immersions, this is VR. But you can't stand or sit at one place forever, and how do you fucking move your body? Any external control disconnected from your head instantly ruins immersion and assaults your vestibular apparatus. Just moment ago your vision was perfectly tied to the vestibular apparatus in the full 6 DOF, this is immersion and now invisible hands drags your you out from your immersion and drags your around offending your senses. Teleports are hack around this problem.
If your walk around room naturally with your legs problem is solved naturally but room is limited and you are not going anywhere literally and metaphorically speaking. Only types of the games that kinda work are "cockpit" games.
f659b8 No.14787693
>>14787211
>or never look at any other focal length for your entire life
This is the the problem constant short range vision accommodation promotes development of nearsightedness. Looking at TV from 10+ feet adjusts eyes to near infinity and helps with prevention of nearsightedness. Consoles win.
ca432d No.14787732
>i have a theory that nobody is willing to release a 4k headset
There is the Pimax '4k'(1920x2160 per eye) for $350 that is available now and an '8k' version that be shipping later this year.
>>14786499
>Someone just needs to produce a headset with drivers that work on all current versions of windows and Mac OSX
Several issues here, first of all Apple has pretty much given up on PC gaming by still using OpenGL 4.1 which is 8 years old at this point. All of their in-house graphic development effort has been focused on their own hardware for tablets and phones.
Second there's the licensing of drivers for Windows that costs a fortune. There's a lot more to this as explained by Carmack in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHLpKzUxjGk but long story short focusing on their own version of Android actually makes sense. Microsoft had to pay them off to use their surplus xbone controllers(which at the time required W10) and keep their device W10 only at first but weren't able to get them onboard for their Mixed Reality app store.
Right now the clear winner by a mile in the VR platform wars is Sony with the PSVR(960×1080 per eye) which is hardly talked about here. Even if you don't have a PS4 it's worth considering since the headset alone costs $200 and works on all versions of Windows and OSX since it's just a simple display that uses HDMI.
535d03 No.14787756
I find it funny that porn is the only industry that has fully embraced VR.almost every major porn site has a VR section now.
1c3c1d No.14787769
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>>14787732
I see a lot of people making the mistake of thinking that a VR's resolution is the only thing that matters. It's like saying that you should only look at a GPUs VRAM to determine which is better. In truth there's a ton more going into it - head tracking and stabilisation being a couple of big factors. Embed related.
975b01 No.14787776
>>14787756
Only industry which can make cheap content for it, and the only thing porn producers can do to differentiate themselves is use weird cameras nobody else can be bothered with.
b8509d No.14787790
>VR
>Ever
I was laughing at you faggots decades ago as well
86a5ae No.14787833
>>14786374
You play really shitty games then.
438c5f No.14787875
"Cardboard" headsets are the best. I mean, they're just plastic shells to put your phone in, so they're dirt cheap. A taste of VR for $15 or so, can't beat that price!
e75a26 No.14787889
VR completely cripples gameplay, i dont know anybody who wants to teleport around instead of using regular controls
e75a26 No.14787892
hell they have solve that just to sell at the level of indies
ff8301 No.14787901
Basically, everyone's just waiting for the official Markiplier-approved horror experience! RE7 tried and failed, they need the VR equivalent of Slender or Amnesia.
e75a26 No.14787926
>>14787901
>>believing you can just repeat success that happened in spur of the moment by copying it
000000 No.14787928
>>14786388
>know people who spent thousands of dollars on VR sets and beastly machines to drive them
>they buy memes on credit and have more debt than assets
>meanwhile, I play old games on my $200 laptop
>no debt of any kind
>hundred grand net worth
>mfw THEY tease ME about being poor
I'd rather be poor and wealthy than rich and broke.
ff8301 No.14787934
>>14787926
Let's just say that disney stars with 20 million subs may have a bit of influence over what a kid wants for Christmas.
ad788a No.14787972
>>14786264
>>no VR headsets with 4k resolution commercially available
If you've spent so much effort looking at every gay meme shit released by every big corporation you ought've run into Pimax somewhere along the line.
>i have a theory that nobody is willing to release a 4k headset because the hardware requirements would be ridiculous
Big companies seem to believe that their consumers need to run the newest AAA games at the peak resolution offered by the headset, and those games running at peak resolution are the main selling point, so this is plausible.
d11e0a No.14788094
I confess, if Nintendo had a VR system for Metroid Prime 4 and the previous three, a new Starfox and a new F-Zero and possibly others I would be all over that shit!
I want Ace Combat 7 and Resident Evil 7, but I don't think that alone justifies it.
34cb59 No.14788136
>>14787934
>he thinks people know markiplier from only the internet
e75a26 No.14788148
most hilarious part about all this is that nobody is still going to buy VR/AR until it hardware requirements come down
there is no market for it, tiny group of people with high end gfx cards isnt remotely sustainable, neither is sticking with mobile trash
e75a26 No.14788151
who the fuck buys 1080 or vega to play walking simulators
bdca69 No.14788175
>>14786398
Says the guy posting memes fresh off 2013
4df7f2 No.14788196
>>14788175
>he fell for the VR meme
bf8781 No.14788219
The Lenovo one seems worth it, considering the price, res and having controllers. Tell me, what are the drawbacks?
83d2f6 No.14788221
>>14786264
>3d controller meme getting adopted more and more
The controls are the only thing VR has going for it mechanically other than tying camera controls to head movement, and are practically the sole thing that enables the increased potential for first person simulators VR has
Being against that is like being against keyboard controls for typing games, sure it's technically possible to have one without them, but it'd be such a clunky pain in the ass that it'd never be fun without severe compromises to the game, and we already have proof of this with games like surgeon simulator, entirely based around being so godawful to play with any kind of standard control method that it's funny
493b9d No.14788222
The issue is that almost nobody dares to make actual fucking games since most of the fags developing are low-t numales that suffer from crippling simulation sickness the moment you actually fucking move anywhere in it so everything is either fucking fixed position crap or teleporting around like a jackass.
Croteam's VR ports of the Serious Sam games(not The Last Hope) and like that one cartoony marathon racing game and a couple of other things here and there seem to be the few examples of actual fucking video games aside from VR integration for flight sims.
ff8301 No.14788237
>>14788222 (checked)
Fun fact, VR sickness is due to your brain noticing the disconnect between your eyes and all of your other senses. The brain thinks you're hallucinating or being poisoned, and it trying to save you.
If you don't feel it, then your genetics, and perhaps even God himself, intended for you to die.
3327c0 No.14788249
>>14788237
Or you're just shit at videogames and need to get good.
0ea1b6 No.14788266
>>14788237
>>14788249
He's right. It's the same reason more fit people are more prone to motion sickness.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2156490
83d2f6 No.14788286
>>14788266
That's just biological proof that we're more fit for video games and being a casual is a genetic disorder
normans roooo
bf8781 No.14788294
>>14786499
> Someone just needs to produce a headset with drivers that work on all current versions of windows and Mac OSX
>doesn't even mention linux
>mentions fucking Mac OSX
Hey there you fucking nigger
>>14788148
If only the high polygon meme died out. Also, many artstyles allow producers to build something without many requirements that still pleases the eyes. See Pool VR, for example(the name of the game changed, don't know the new one).
fbeca2 No.14788295
Okay so currently I can think of three games that might be worth playing. Hotdogs Horseshoes and Handgrenades, Gorn, and maybe Arizone Sunshine. I haven't played any of them since I don't own a headset but they all seem promising at least. There's also some neat programs like Tiltbrush and the VR Desktop (although apparently VR Desktop is not very stable in its current state). There are probably a few other titles worth playing that I forgot to mention, but right now it's really sparse and I couldn't justify paying more than 200 bucks for a headset. I'm sure that in a year or two things will improve, even if only slightly, but whether or not developers will be making actually good games remains to be seen.
7cb4e7 No.14788417
>>14788266
Asians are hyper-susceptible to motion sickness. So many correlations. I don't feel motion sickness; it is a foreign concept to me.
ddc8d6 No.14788434
>>14787369
>keyboard
>have to sit upright the whole time for it to be even remotely usable
>ass hurts after 2h
>can't stand up or move because I'm bound to this abomination
>controller
>can lean around and put it everywhere I want
>if wireless you're not even bound to a chair
>can lie down in bed and still play comfortably
3bc1f0 No.14788444
>>14788294
>> Someone just needs to produce a headset with drivers that work on all current versions of windows and Mac OSX
>>doesn't even mention linux
>>mentions fucking Mac OSX
>Hey there you fucking nigger
They are all so busy tryign to lock in their niche and lock each other out they are smothering the VR baby in the crib. Pure pottery.
ca432d No.14788446
>>14787769
That's prototype V2 being worn by that twink and they're currently shipping out V6 for beta testing and early reviews so we might see it at the Display Week convention later this month. And that'll still be a prototype.
>>14788219
The fact that it requires Windows 10 with the fall update to work is the biggest drawback by far, I'd wait for it to go on sale for $200 again.
>>14788294
I remember watching the VRonlinux.com site go from one post every other week to one a month and eventually shutting down after it became apparent that nobody cares about a 1-2% marketshare. Valve barely supports it but requires their Steam spyware.
ff8301 No.14788450
>>14788434
>Keyboard
>have to hunch your back and twist your arms unnaturally
>Controller
>have to hunch your back and twist your arms unnaturally
34cb59 No.14788497
>>14788188
I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not, but it's funny either way.
e75a26 No.14788507
>>14788295
NONE of that sounds interesting, a random indie game on steam with effort sounds more interesting
3a4dd8 No.14788509
>>14787011
>>14787100
Play WipEout Omega VR and wait for AC7.
ddc8d6 No.14788518
>>14788450
No? Controllers give you the freedom to sit however you want. Unless you're the hunchback of Notre Dame
e82e48 No.14788521
>>14786350
Porn. The thing to do with it is fucking porn. And yet its just illusion doing anything. It doesn't even have to have sensations, just let the dude first person a girl while he beats his meat, or play the girl while he also beats his meat. Added points if it has an rpg tacked on. But every single company needs to be family friendly.
852abf No.14789225
>>14786264
It will end by killing the deformed kikes that allow it to happen.
>>14788521
This.
VR is a porn device. Anything else with VR is shit.
61118c No.14789240
>>14788136
Hey anon, was that clip edited to be so fucking spastic and annoying from the start or is it a shitpost?
f203f4 No.14789765
>>14786374
VRchat is a badly optimized normalfag central
e7514c No.14790262
.>>14786374
>>14789765
From the videos it looks just like a shitty Second Life, just more exclusive due to high barrier cost to enter
8d3123 No.14790280
>All I wanted from VR is a program that allows me to watch my mongolian cave paintings in a virtual movie theater
>VR will be dead long before it ever becomes cheap and comfy enough to justify the investment
229936 No.14790292
>>14790280
>Wants to pretend he's inna movie theater with VR
>Five hundred dollar is too much
Dude what?
186291 No.14790298
There's nothing wrong with VR as long as you're not a poorfag (aka 90% of /v/).
f28a7e No.14790304
>>14790262
>high cost barrier for a program that doesn't even need a VR headset despite the name
8d3123 No.14790308
>>14790292
I wouldn't spend more than $150-200 on a headset like this.
8691e1 No.14790341
>>14786374
VRChat died as quickly as the meme it spawned.
>>14788136
There have been a ton of youtube stars on Disney. Logan Paul was one until he was let go because of that loud noise complaint from his neighbors and generally treating a former girlfriend like shit, well before the suicide forest video. Too bad he was the best character on the show and make him disappear without even saying a word.
fbeca2 No.14791554
>>14790280
I bet you want to hold hands with your waifu in the darkness of the theater too, you filthy fucking degenerate
I want to do the same thing
5f1294 No.14791625
>thinkan about getting VR
>tried brother's vive and was really impressed
>current specs can run everything that I play flawlessly so no need to upgrade outside of vr
>had system for about 4 years now, cost 1.2k
>upgrade requires new graphics card which requires new psu
>that alone is some 600 bucks plus shipping and probably import tax and currency conversion fees because lel new zealand and buying overseas will still be cheaper than anything over here
>cheapest headset is some 500 kiwibucks which has controller and can do room-scale without external sensors
>requires win10
>requires win10
>best way I can think of getting around that privacy rapeage is to get another harddrive and have it completely separate to my current win7 setup, unplugging it when not in use and unplugging everything else when it is
>realise I'm basically building a second computer that shares a mobo, processor, and case with current just for vr
>total cost is over 1.3k kiwibucks
I just can't bring myself to spend that much, even though I do have the money.
>>14786264
>When will the autism and jewry die down, and the quality begin?
Not soon but eventually. The biggest problem is that although vr is about the same cost as a new console, most people don't have the computer to run it and it has all these added costs of additional hardware. This excludes a large portion of the market - the more frugal part of it - like myself that wants to buy it but doesn't want to spend that much and leaves only the top end of spenders. Price doesn't matter so much for them.
When cards improve to the point that high end ones now are average then, it'll open up into the larger market and you'll get all that healthy competition that drives prices down and quality up.
>>14790280
At that point why not just get a projector and a daki?
7f7037 No.14792811
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LOOK GUYS ITS A VR MECH GAME!!!
in 3rd person, by konami + its a remake
b4806e No.14792944
Can someone explain why VR needs games specifically for it?
I mean, the headsets are basically just monitors, they only let you look at things. I'd rather focus be put in to making general internet browsing or playing existing games with their normal controls more compatible than trying to make 'VR games'.
Most new games are pretty lack luster anyways, I'd rather have good ways to play other games. Vaguely remember like a VR arcade thing where you could add games to it and actually play on the machines, which is the kind of shit they should be going for. 2D games can't really translate so I'd be up for it being straight to my face or in arcade things like that. 3D games could use the space a lot better, but ultimately its just a new way to control the camera.
Also a VR internet browser would be the shit, get some sci fi feel to it. Have as many 'monitors' as you want with it.
23c329 No.14793001
>>14787673
You get a standing-pad that works like a treadmill but only moves in the direction you are moving your feet, as in as you move the treadmill with your feet, you move in the game.
e75a26 No.14793033
>>14792944
then whats is the point of wearing huge ass clunky headset that makes you throw up
nobody in their right mind would do that unless they have good fucking reasons
003397 No.14793049
>>14792944
>I mean, the headsets are basically just monitors, they only let you look at things.
I really hope you're not so stupid that you actually believe this. Can you really not comprehend the potential benefit of head tracking and depth perception? Is everyone on /v/ 12 years old?
e75a26 No.14793062
>>14793049
>>muh head tracking muh depth
explain to me what gameplay element benefits from this, what?
7f7037 No.14793072
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>>14793062
>14793062
>>14793062
>14793062
WHY NOT SHOW YOU
b4806e No.14793131
>>14793072
Anon I'm not seeing the point here. Looking at things isn't gameplay. At best its a different way to aim, one that seems a lot more fiddly thats sacrificing fun for 'Realism'.
Like cool throw a grenade around the corner or crouch more effectively but I mean, thats not really helping the game feel any better to play so much as it would be making it more annoying.
>That one asshole blind firing around every corner
>Everyone just throwing random grenades while being impossible to hit but also forcing you out
>Weapon switching being made nearly pointless with how fast drawing a pistol is
It all just feels wrong. The fun in a shooter is the fucking shooting, I don't see how VR would lend well to it.
b4806e No.14793138
>>14793049
Tell me how it'd have any gameplay effect in literally anything that isn't first person.
I legitimately can't think of any.
f959e5 No.14793223
>>14790280
Just go with a projector then. They have a higher res image. They help alleviate eyestrain imo. You can use them as a viable desktop monitor so all of your normal vidya will be supersized and much higher visual quality. The new epson lcd projectors are pretty darn good. They are comparable prices to vr headsets. The 2100 and 2150 have $50 replacement lamps so they make the best desktop monitors.
Also it doesn't take much financially or effort-wise to get your room and viewing experience comfy. Take a page from the nips. Walls painted a soft color. Soft curtains that give off that warm enveloping shoji glow. DIY a kotatsu/futon setup. Doesn't matter how good, no VR experience is going to be able to match up to the real thing.
4e8d90 No.14793388
>>14790341
Wait, wasn't Jake Paul the disney channel actor and Logan just used his brother's success for his own benefit?
4e8d90 No.14793397
1aebc0 No.14793742
>When will the autism and jewry die down, and the quality begin?
The jew is eternal, like a cockroach.
It will never go away by itself.
It must be compketely anhilated.
14388e No.14793843
>>14786264
>pretty much every dev is working on vrshit
>YET IT STILL HAS NO GAMES
how does this even fucking happen? Serious Sam 4 was delayed for this shit
5d9eaf No.14793933
>>14793131
>It all just feels wrong. The fun in a shooter is the fucking shooting, I don't see how VR would lend well to it.
find someone with a VR headset and ask them to let you try it. you won't understand until you experience it yourself.
6a3086 No.14794857
>>14790341
>VRChat died as quickly as the meme it spawned.
<shit I pulled out of my ass
VRChat used to have 50-80 concurrent players for years since its inception according to steam charts before they got nuked. Post memes it peaked at 22k players and gradually lowered and stabilized to 6k players. Its big and here to stay you double nigger.
cabcb3 No.14794970
>>14786782
This intrigues me. Is anyone actually trying to use this for VR?
cabcb3 No.14795084
>>14788446
The leftist in that picture was talking about the Rift because of it's ties to faceberg.
http://archive.is/X9IOo
9cd519 No.14795107
>>14794970
of course not
anon is just an ideas guy
d15b08 No.14795147
I haven't actually tried VR but as far as I can see the current biggest problem for me would be how all games use the dumb television remote style teleportation. It doesn't look fun at all. Do you still get nausea even after you've adjusted to and used VR a lot?
d15b08 No.14795213
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VR sucks a lot less if you have smooth movement instead of the teleport gimmick.
39a156 No.14795330
>>14786782
I think the real question here is: can the TENS electrostimulation make it so that I feel the waifu suck my dick? And if so, does it mean the end of society as we know it?
b5b879 No.14795461
>>14794970
There are several diy guys doing a bunch of stuff with EMB controllers, using the muscles in their arms and legs as the input for conventional videogames, so far no one has added TENS to the mix to my knowledge for VR
b5b879 No.14795467
30d2e9 No.14795585
>Dyslexics seem to be resistant to the negative effects VR can have due to their superior 3d spacial awareness.
Well, I guess having a slightly defective brain is finally going to start paying off.
bfd274 No.14795595
>>14786398
>>3d controller meme getting adopted more and more
i just want stereoscopic 3d, i don't need to be "immersed"
83d2f6 No.14795972
>>14795595
>I just want a useless immersion gimmick, I don't need to be "immersed"
bfd274 No.14795978
>>14795972
>depth perception
>a useless immersion gimmick,
is this bait?
83d2f6 No.14796094
>>14795978
Compared to entirely new control methods, hell yes it's a gimmick
Even games made specifically for it like an entire generation of 3DS games use it as nothing more than visual fluff in every single case
People fucking already don't want to make games for this shit, let alone good ones, you think expensive VR headsets with literally nothing going for them except the stereoscopic vision is gonna be any different?
98a05e No.14796372
>VR meme
as other anons have mentioned, VR is only good for porn
>pic related
e31093 No.14796413
>>14796372
Porn is evil though, so VR is shit.
d54e03 No.14797324
>>14793131
>is shown actual fucking gameplay using the Vive and accompanying motion controllers
>"hurrr looking at things isn't gameplay"
>"hurr I have to actually move my fat lardass of a body so its annoying shit"
Holy fuck, imagine being this much of a brain-dead fat-goblin.
709c5b No.14801774
>>14786398
VRChat doesn't actually require VR, you retard
a41c85 No.14801827
>>14786350
Just make a normal game with newer interactions due to the headset not that hard to do I guess physical restrictions with the cords prevent that but I think vr is mostly for social games and lewd.
af5509 No.14801991
>>14801774
You should go back to third grade for reading comprehension difficulty or commit yourself to a special ed class, nowhere did I say VRchat requires a VR headset
a41c85 No.14802147
>>14786398
One of the devs goes to /vrg/ on 4chan
7382f5 No.14804252
>>14790280
Anon you can already do this. I already do this. I bought a PSVR on eBay for $182 it came with everything that was in the box plus a stand, 2 motion controllers, and 2 games (worth about $350 all together brand new). You can get a brand new bundle (with one game) for $200 on sale. With the program Trinus PSVR you can get it to run with steam vr and it can be used it the same way as a Vive or Oculus. I use Bigscreen beta a free VR movie theater app from steam. It works great.
That said Trinus PSVR is not free it costs $15 and I haven't been able to find a pirated copy. Has anyone else been able to find copy of it? I would love to not pay.
34d082 No.14804679
>>14788237
t. weak stomached faggot
cbc465 No.14804690
You'd think the simulator communities alone would be enough to sustain a micro-economy for a high end, 4K headset. It's not like we shrug at dropping $1k for wheel+pedal+shifter combo or $600 for a HOTAS setup.
4df7f2 No.14804788
>>14792811
>want a new ZOE sequel
>instead get another HD remake on the NoGamesStation with VR gimmicks tacked on
FUCK KONAMI AND FUCK VR!
3789e5 No.14804806
All I get from this thread is: who the fuck is markiplier. Scared to google it.
fa65ab No.14805174
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. I have a CV1 vive headset and its pretty good.
But people here have absolutely no clue what VR games are like, since there is no crossover information about VR games towards desktopfags.
Idiots still think VR is teleportation only shit, or that it would be best played with a console controller or KBM, instead of roomscale with motion control.
Games like Sairento VR that have full on wallrunning, sliding, backflips and quadruple-jumping.
And having a headset plus using traditional controls feels utterly awful, its just a fancy way of looking around ingame and loses its novelty within a day or two.
There are good VR games out, there is just few of them and desktop users don't know anything about it. There is no marketing for them since VR is too expensive for normalfags and /v/ can't discuss VR games, because only a handful people here have it. The other large part who does can't participate in those threads other than shitposting about VR.
Good VR games include: Vox Machinae, VTOL VR, Onward/PavlovVR, Robo Recall
54f9e9 No.14805198
>>14805174
Here's a question that's always been on my mind when it comes to gaming with a headset:
What would you say is a good FOV to play on? More than what you'd normally use on a desktop? Less? About the same?
You say using a headset and KBM is just a fancy way of looking around, but would it make for a decent alternative to a monitor for gaming?
fa65ab No.14805236
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>>14805198
>What would you say is a good FOV to play on?
Hard to tell what it is now, you only get screendoor effect for like 2 minutes with the headset, then you never notice it again until you're done.
I'd say 10% more fov and we'd be set.
>More than what you'd normally use on a desktop?
Yes, since monitors are usually further away, that means the fov can be smaller. Since headsets are directly on your head, the fov needs to be bigger.
>You say using a headset and KBM is just a fancy way of looking around, but would it make for a decent alternative to a monitor for gaming?
No, not at all. 96% of all desktop games do not support VR in any way, and without headtracking its utterly pointless.
When you do have headtracking like in Elite Dangerous, its neat for a few hours. But the novelty fades away really, really fast.
Then you'll choose to play Elite Dangerous on the desktop like usual rather than on your headset.
Good VR games will be their own market, similar to the difference between handheld and desktop games.
e75a26 No.14805313
>>14805174
they think that because its true, that example is just one game, nobody gives a shit about that title
0dc056 No.14805325
>>14790280
Get a projector and play Mario kart 64 on someone else's house on a literal level.
fa65ab No.14805441
>>14805313
>I have no VR, no clue what it is like, so I am going to claim there is only one like that and pretend the listed games in that post don't exist either