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File: b91534156100bb8⋯.png (167.44 KB, 305x526, 305:526, Alisha_Diphda.png)

File: 08b9411b4d54b53⋯.jpg (88.71 KB, 1000x1429, 1000:1429, Rose.jpg)

3e3837 No.14766299

>What went wrong and why it went so wrong?

bb57e3 No.14766337

>tempureito sreddu


6d3b9b No.14766385

>>14766337

Did something happen at cuckchan to cause an influx of rapefugees?


721445 No.14766413

>>14766385

Mark actively lures 4channers and redditors.

Apparently he's successful.


3e3837 No.14768259

>Post to have some fun with Tales

>Even land dubs

>Nofun.jpeg

>Instead cuckchan and plebbit maymays

What the actual fuck Mark, you fat sack of horseshit? Just ban them and move on, image boards dying down is depressing enough.


c993f4 No.14769264

>>14766299

The Alisha/Rose situation is just a bullshit argument. They are both decent enough characters and it's not like it's the first game ever to replace a main party member. Get over it.

The main problem in the game is just the spammy combat, especially once you've mastered the skill system and got yourself 80% reduced cast time and near invulnerability to spam ancient nova or one of the other equivalent spells. Then again it's rare for a JRPG to maintain any semblance of challenge past the half way point anyway and at least the item-skill system was innovative and flexible enough to create some very powerful specialized builds

Berseria lacked the specialization and gave you the spammy god-mode combat from the beginning.


74f1a6 No.14769300

>>14766299

Your pic related, OP. Alisha was removed and her role was given to that sociopath on the second picture and Mikleo.

Thing was, a fujoshi or a girl who likes BL shit too much was in charge of story and was the lead writer. Alisha was meant to be the main girl, but somehow there was change in management or something, that crazy broad was in charge of story and start tearing it apart.

Now, Sorey and Mikleo officially buttfucks each other; Alisha was given excuse plot to GTFO to make space for that "pairing". To fill in the void of token girl party member since it became a fucking BL project already, that little psychopath was born.

Now the backlash was something fierce back in Nipland iirc. It basically became a "Magical Realm" project, so what they have learned from this shitstorm was that keep the fetish/magical realm bullshit out of vidya.


1c728a No.14769328

File: 0a9f064fa3019dd⋯.jpg (24.06 KB, 600x338, 300:169, Pull the trigger.jpg)

>>14766299

It was the malevolence.


8b93ee No.14769349

The game was fucked the moment the developers said they were taking inspiration from Skyrim.


e706f4 No.14769351

>>14769264

Baba fuck off, the story went to shit the exact moment Rose took the stage.

>party is full of goody-goodies who don't even really want to kill villains

>Rose is a sociopath assassin unable to really care about anyone, murdering without remorse

>that is apparently positive

>the party of idealistic, good fags who don't want to kill are apparently more than fine with a sociopathic murderer with no good character traits after she tries to kill them a few times

>it's fucking clear she's killed innocents

>they idolise her the moment she joins

>she's murderous, unreliable, talks shit about them, but they still treat her well

<but a priest in a sidequest who also kills without gaining malevolence is apparently a monster

She'd make sense if others only accepted her because there was no alternative, but they hated her anyway and it was clear if she pushes it too hard, she'll get her shit pushed in. It stupid for them to do more than tolerate her, let alone like her from the get-go. She's an awful character Baba let in only because her seiyuu gave him a boner and because of that the entire game had to be re-recorded and changed a few months before going gold (not giving programmers time to improve the gameplay because they had to redo scenes where Alisha was present, but with Rose).

http://www52.atwiki.jp/tozsougiwiki/pages/1.html

Can't find the English version at this time.

>>14769300

Completely wrong, dubsman. No fujoshi girl, no such thing as official buttfucking and there's at most implications. There is only Hideo Baba, a guy. He hated Alisha's designer and liked Rose's voice actor, so he ordered the game redone after everything was pretty much finished. He was so fucking petty, he even had content that was done scrapped just because it contained Alisha as long as the team couldn't change it to contain only Rose in time.


3e3837 No.14770024

File: 99f87e68cc715f8⋯.jpg (22.38 KB, 300x415, 60:83, 8pksyx.jpg)

>>14769264

Apply some vaseline up your asshole and calm down, I asked what was wrong and why it went so wrong, didn't present any arguements. As if it is the only reason the game sucks balls. The fighting system, the Skyrim inspiration they touted before, the rush for production that was a hot thing during the transitional period between the PS3 and PS4 and fucked this game and Star Ocean 5 as well as the whole inability to fully evolve the fucking game's formula beyond what it its and the mind boggling hug box story of empty characters between the Ruins buttbros was some of the most disappointing things as well and as >>14769351 said, thhese things became even more apparent and had the added bonus of Mikako Komatsu's creepy clone for Boner Baba to oggle and jerk off in game.

And worst of all, the transition between battles that they so clearly wanted to copy Yakuza 5 to do so and failed so much along with the moronic idea of botching the Graces system of how attack chains are formed instead of doing something Tales hasn't had the balls to do in years : copy Falcom's formula, only instead of copying Sorcerian and giving it secret fightan commands while making it an AAA production on the SNES, they could copy Ys 7 and actually give it a bit more depth since they have the means to do so and introduce a new arte cancelling mechanism and even more intruiging, they could give the characters some depth in combat like pause combos and add jump attacks before Ys Vs Sora no Kiseki added them in the Ys7 engine. Kamui had so much potential and they pissed it off.

>>14769351

Thanks for the link anon.


e5feac No.14770081

File: 9c1b71824e3c0fa⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 1.56 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, serveimage.jpeg)

Even outside of the Alisha fuckery, the game still sucked. The combat alone was 20 million steps back. Whatever fucktard thought of putting hard limits on your combos needs to suck all the dongs. It's doubly frustrating because they had already perfected the formula with pic related, a god-game, but decided to reinvent the wheel anyways.

The music sucked. The characters sucked. The Alisha kikery sucked. The plot sucked. The combat giga ultra mega turbo super sucked. Everything about Zestiria is actually complete trash.

I'm also mad as fuck that a cutie like Edna was wasted on it.


e706f4 No.14770287

>>14770024

>skyrim inspiration

I don't see it as more than just a thing said for marketing by some random guy, the game has nothing to do with Skyrim in any way and doesn't seem affected. It's not even a real open world. The only common thing I can think of is that in both you "climb" a mountain and both have dragons. Both are sort of medieval fantasy, but that doesn't count.

I'm mad Baba damaged the series. If his team didn't have to change everything just to remove Alisha for no fucking reason but making his penis harder, the fighting system could've easily been improved. They could've at least made the item system less retarded, touched the combat up a bit, added more fun interactions. The only conversations I remember from Zestiria is Etna and/or Rose making fun of Mikleo or "Rose is so cool wow". They'd have several months to do better because they were already done with the basics, and I'm sure the end result would be far better. Instead it crippled the series, with Berseria not being bad but it was clear as fuck Bamco didn't want to risk money after Tales team got into so many problems. I hope the next game will have actual effort in it. Definitely different graphics, it looks like fucking shit, especially the surroundings. Ni No Kuni-tier graphics, or at least Xenoverse 2-tier, not garbage.

The thing I find the best in this game is Sorey, maybe because of the autistic way he flails his hands around in half the scenes. I just like him. I feel what he could've been, and that makes him better in my mind. Mikleo wasn't bad either, and I have figures of them both. The rest wasn't too interesting, Edna looks nice but gave up on her brother because Rose told her to, the bland guy from the party who dies as the main focus of his death is Rose whom he's talking to and nobody gives a fuck he died afterwards, only that Rose might be sad about it. There's also the naked guy who kills malaks because he wants to stop Eizen, annoying fire bitch with the most annoying and long way to say "I won't tell you shit" imaginable, and Alisha who was jewed. That is unfortunate. Interactions without Rose were decent, too, unless the albino fire bitch was too heavily involved.


3e3837 No.14770387

File: 00ef41db1c7d62f⋯.jpg (283.53 KB, 1413x1158, 471:386, 00ef41db1c7d62fba045956944….jpg)

>>14770081

Hey now, Go Shiina may not have been at the top of his game but his ruins themes were memorable and delectable. it's bad that they were used in that pile of shit instead of God Eater or some other A-RPG that had elemental themed dungeons.

>>14770287

The Skyrim inspiration isn't so much the open world(it isn't anyway) it's the way the ruins are constructed and the way the story hooks you up with the themes of Shepherd(Dragonborn) that fights the corrupted Malaks(Dragons) that have bein tainted by the Malevolence(whatever shit was in ToddHowardrim). It's just a tad on the nose but that might be due to the infinite re-writes of the Rose thing and ommiting a fuck ton of things on top of purposefully keeping things mysterious for a new line of games in that world, like they tried to do with Tales of Edgy Rina Satou and her shouta fuckslave.

They should had also unfucked the fusion system of the items and weapons.

Sorey being jesus Naruto with a hard-on for ruins-adventure and a budding bromance with Mikleo in a clamer style than Kyle and Loni was endearing at first but it fell through due to plot catching up and them ceasing having those moments at some point. Hell, my guilty pleasure is seeing him autistically copy the Rasengan in the final battle with Heldalf and doing a double Rasengan fake-out, I could almost hear the verbal tick. Alisha was nice, the rest were so obviously set-up for presequels and such so they were annoying, useless and a constant reminder that Miyu Mitsuki's talents were wasted and if I recall correctly, it was the last thing she did before her Lymphoma got worse that lead to her passing later that year.

What's worse is that Baba gave some weird phrasing during an event at Taiwan when he was αsked about who was the heroine and he said "the heroine is whoever you want to be" and given how they teased some semblence of a path split right down to the two wind elementals, I can't help but feel that they didn't have enough time to include both split paths so they kept Alisha's despite being the rushed new one, fucking everything up.


98b9b0 No.14770749

>>14769264

>>14769300

>>14769351

Alisha is gay anyway. Fuck Alisha.


e5feac No.14770934

>>14770387

>Hey now, Go Shiina may not have been at the top of his game but his ruins themes were memorable and delectable.

That is true and I almost put a small caveat in there about them, but 2-4 good songs out of an entire soundtrack does not qualify the game as having "good music." Zestiria is shit in all categories and music is no exception.




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