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c38430 No.14765584

So I've finally gotten around to getting this game knocked off the backlog and I'm having a ridiculous amount of fun. Before I jump to the next games I am curious, is this one of those series that stays good, or is there a point where it starts to decline?

0efe15 No.14765592

Don't forget the best game, deadlocked :^)


c9b9a6 No.14765593

I'd say it stopped at Deadlocked, but I'm not sure. The newer games feel hollow. Especially the reboot.


e02611 No.14765604

All 3 of the ones on the ps2 being great. Size matters is okay for a psp game but is kind of short, I don't remember much of deadlocked to talk about it. I stopped there so I don't know how the rest are. I've wanted to see about the ps3 games like Tools of destruction.


be402f No.14765635

How are the games past the PS2 and PSP? Also Agent Clank?


303b13 No.14765644

Deadlocked is fucking amazing.


08258f No.14765716

>>14765644

>>14765592

Just replayed Deadlocked with a friend a few months ago. That game is probably my favorite couch co-op experience, can't say I've ever had a guy not enjoy playing it with me.


5f21d5 No.14765952

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I didn't enjoy Tools of Destruction as much as the PS2 games, but A Crack In Time might be my favourite in the whole series. Never tried Into The Nexus, though. The 2016 reboot is okay as far as gameplay is concerned and it looks gorgeous visually (both in terms of environments and animations) but the humour and writing in general is painfully flat.


10b109 No.14765967

Going Commando or Up Your Arsenal, in other words, 2 & 3, are probably the best of the original quartet. R&C1 feels a *lot* like Spyro actually, not having either a camera locked to the player's back or strafing necessitates the weapons needing auto-targeting, or homing, or large AOE, and dealing with crowds of enemies feels pretty fiddly.

>is there a point where it starts to decline?

Ratchet & Clank, at its best, was about a balance of three things: shooting, platforming, puzzles. R&C4: Deadlocked ditched a lot of the first two and maximized on the third. likely because of Sony demanding increased focus on multiplayer to show off PS2's online capabilities. Up Your Arsenal had featured online multi, but with Deadlocked, that emphasis only increased. I won't say that Deadlocked isn't fun. Weapon modding is really expanded in this entry. In 1, each weapon got an upgrade that you bought that was just a power boost and changed the color of the attack. 2 introduced weapons that levelled up through use, and could then have upgrades bought for them. In 3, they could be levelled up to 5. In Deadlocked, weapons level to 10. Each level unlocks what is called an 'Alpha Mod Slot'. These can be filled with items that slightly increase damage, rate-of-fire, etc. Each weapon then has one 'Omega Mod Slot'. These are filled with items that drastically change a weapon, such as making it deal shock damage which chains to nearby enemies, or leave behind globs of lava. Both Alpha and Omega Mods are not permanent, and can be swapped out as needed.

However, the moddability of weapons (and also likely the fact that this game was meant for online) is meant to balance out the fact that this entry, despite being more shooter-heavy, actually has *less* weapons than previous entries. You have your shotgun, your assault rifle, your sniper rifle, and a few more, but you don't really get the weird situational weapons.


c38430 No.14766758

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well cool, glad to hear I'm in for some more good games and from the sounds of it at least the series ends on an okay note.

>>14765967

sadly I already watched https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kD_QhYgIA4 so my opinion on the remake is already poisoned.


76bea4 No.14766864

>>14765584

1-3, Deadlocked, and Secret Agent Clank are the good ones. PS3 aren't nearly as good. Still competent but the story, characters, and humor are all pretty bad even though the games want to focus much more on them. Personally I felt the shooting in those games never managed to reach how good the PS2 games were either. Size Matters is okay, it's the first PSP game so if you're going to play Secret Agent Clank then you may as well play it first.

There's a bunch of spinoffs on the PS3 which as far as I'm aware you should ignore. The main games on the PS3 are Tools of Destruction, Quest for Booty, Crack in Time, and Into the Nexus. I don't know anything about the two old mobile games or if they're even still available.


7cba2d No.14766886

>>14765952

> A Crack In Time might be my favourite in the whole series

It did so many things right and was full of content with side quest.


2f4d4d No.14766983

All of the games are at the very least playable and measure from great/perfection. There isn't a single bad game in the main series. Yea there are definitely a lot of retcons in the lore and story but you should not care. Ratchet and Clank are great 3d platformers.

rnc, gc, uya, dl, tod, q4b, AND cit are all perfect games.


53677b No.14767956

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>>14765584

It stays good. The PS3 games aren't as great as the PS2 ones but they are still good. Just don't bother with Quest for Booty, it's just an overpriced standalone DLC that is so short that you find new weapons already upgraded.


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>>14765592

Fuck you Deadlocked was actually great


8f58df No.14768978

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I've only had my hands on the first and second game, and honestly I felt the "magic" was used up on the first game. It felt so full of life.

I wonder if I should finish my fic about Ratchet hooking up with the Help Desk girl…


db52d6 No.14768999

Don't give him (you)s


a4f328 No.14769026

>>14767956

q4b is interesting because it lacks clank so there is at the very least some interesting platforning going on.


720341 No.14769036

<<14768987

reported


bf045f No.14769050

The games took a nosedive after the jump to PS3. Far too much story, and really bad story at that. Performance issues. Design that just wasn't as much fun.


c38430 No.14769140

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while on the topic of PS platformers, was Knack or its sequel any good?


0efe15 No.14769954

>>14769140

I heard knack 2 is actually good, the difficulty setting actually changes/re-routes the level design.


48680f No.14769985

I want to join in on this thread but i have to go to my friends house just know that i love ratchet and clank and all4one is fucking dogshit.

Ratchet and clank is one of the very few games that actually improves on gameplay as new titles are released, they never remove anything, just find ways to add to the already cool combat


dc24ef No.14769986

>>14765604

There were 4 games on the PS2


8539a2 No.14769988

Deadlocked is where the decline starts. It's not a bad game in itself but it's not as good as the early titles.

I have a hard time deciding between 2 and 3 for best.


0e3f6d No.14770020

>>14769140

Knack isn't worth playing ever and Knack 2 is very serviceable for kids.


8915b4 No.14770611

Get the HD collection. First one is a little rough around the edges. Second and third are masterpieces. Deadlock is good, great if you liked all the arena sections

and don't mind some repetitiveness. Tools of Destruction / Crack in Time are great, on par with the third game. Can't speak for size matters or the Booty pirate one, though I presume they're good since they're the same type of game as the others. All four in one and the other ps3 era one I can't remember are mediocre and don't follow the formula. Agent clank, I have no clue about. I assume you played the PS4 one, which was also fantastic.


c38430 No.14770639

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>>14770020

gotcha, I've got enough to play for now so I'll pass on it then.

>>14770611

Skipped the ps4 one due to >>14766758, but I am playing the HD collection right now. Just about finished with the first game.I also decided to pick up the HD collections of Jak and Sly after finding them for a good price and realizing just how fun these PS2 platformers can be. Hopefully they're as decent as Ratchet & Clank.


10b109 No.14770998

>>14770639

>I also decided to pick up the HD collections of Jak and Sly

>Jak & Daxter 1

Think Banjo-Kazooie, but with a better camera & framerate, also all three use disc-streaming tech, so load times are more limited that you typically see from games in the sixth gen

>Jak 2 & 3

Drastically changed to something more along the lines of GTA. You still have platforming in sections outside or underneath the city/cities that the games take place in, but the games now have a mission structure, the protag is voiced and is a moody little bastard, and he has guns and hijacks jetbikes to get around the city. Jak 3 takes place in two cities; Haven, previously seen in 2, and Spargus, a desert city where the primary transportation is lizards instead of jetbikes. Spargus is located at the southern end of a huge desert with outcroppings of rock all over, and you traverse this place with a variety of more traditional wheeled vehicles. Unfortunately, this greater emphasis on vehicles means Jak 3 eschews just a bit more of its platformer roots than 2 did.

>Sly 1

Platformer with some light stealth elements. Good fun.

>Sly 2

Drops the more rigid level-based structure of 1. Instead, each chapter of the game takes place in a city that you must traverse to pick up missions. Stealth gameplay is expanded upon, with things like pickpocketing, and you also have three playable characters, each of whom have their own missions to do.

>Sly 3

Largely similar to 2, though in my opinion this was where it felt like Sucker Punch was starting to run out of steam. You recruit even more playable characters in this one, but that just means you play as Sly less, and he's usually the most fun to play as. The sections where you plays as Carmelita Fox are a bit fun, but annoyingly, you can't reverse the camera rotation controls when playing as her. That's more a personal preference thing and you may not have issue with this


c38430 No.14771490

>>14770998

sounds like I'm in for some good times ahead. Only thing that sounds a littler worrying is Jak and Daxter turning into GTA but as long as it still has some good platforming then whatever.

I'm actually pretty happy I waited to play all these games till now when there is a drought of new quality vidya.

Praise be to the backlog.




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