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c947a3 No.14756797

Does Ninja Gaiden 2 hold a candle to black? I'm on my third replay of the game and I'm wondering if I should give the second one a go. I've heard it gets a lot of stuff the first game did well wrong.

9f3943 No.14757164

Bazooka ninjas my nigga.

Why train for years when you can have a Ryu seeking fully automatic rocket launcher to artificially inflate the difficulty.


0cc4f5 No.14757383

>I've heard it gets a lot of stuff the first game did well wrong.

Correct. Worse camera, glory kills that massively disrupt the pacing of combat, and poor frame rate are just the first egregious problems that come to mind. Sigma 2 is marginally better, but a lot of M$hills will go in to damage control mode when you bring up the fact that other than gore being removed, the balance for the gameplay went through the roof. Neither holds a candle to Black, though, which is the question you started with.


b94237 No.14758079

>>14757383

Holy shit no. Sigma 2 was not better than NGII. Not at all. Don't listen to this faggot OP.

>>14756797

NGII is different from Black yes.

NGII:

>non-interconnected levels instead

>much more gore including dismemberment

>the dismemberment isn't just for show since it is a large part of the gameplay

>obliteration technique which basically function like the QTE kills you see for normal enemies in the GOW games except with no QTE and they go way quicker, also similar to nu-Doom

>you don't have to always kill the enemies like this but the way the game is balanced you are going to have to do it on anything normal and above, although due to the speed of the game and how it is actually a really fun part of the gameplay

>a lot more weapons to use although none are as big and powerful feeling as the Dabilahro

>it is a much harder game especially on higher difficulties

>story is somehow even worse if you even care)

>levels have tests of valor which basically replace the rewards you get from killing a bunch of enemies in certain areas in Black

>the game throws a lot more enemies at you at once and bodies stay on the floor for most enemies

>you need to rely on moving and dodging way more than in Black where you can rely a lot on the block

Both games are amazing and you should be playing the Xbox versions of both games since they are the definitive versions. Sigma 2 completely loses the point of NGII design. NGII was meant to be a more hectic and fast pace game than Black. It has its faults and isn't as polished as Black but I say that both games are just about equally great. It is hard for me to choose one over the other. In general NGII combat is I would say more fun to play than Black.


f2ebd4 No.14758550

>>14758079

t. never played NGS2


b94237 No.14759070

>>14758550

Sigma 2 was garbage you stupid faggot. Censoring the violence with stupid purple mist sprays because the PS3 couldn't handle the large amounts of gore and enemies the 360 could handle is all what OP needs to really know about what makes Sigma 2 so shitty next to the real Ninja Gaiden 2 on.


0cc4f5 No.14761345

>>14759070

>literally 'muh graphics' - the argument

go back to cuckchan, mongoloid


9fe078 No.14761964

Sigma 2 sucked because its hardware limitations required them to fundamentally change the gameplay. Since they couldn't actually have over a certain number of enemies on screen at once, they simply lowered the enemy count and then buffed enemy hp. Since enemies took longer to kill now, they lowered the amount of throwing weapons surrounding foes will use. And now it plays similar to something like God Of War, were you wail on small groups or even individual enemies for extended periods of time while everyone else just ninja-runs back and forth around you.

NG2 was specifically built to be about quick, specific defensive enemy dispatching, using iframes and leaving wounded foes as still dangerous shield reserves. Instead they boiled it into mush where nothing you do particularly matters so long as you hit them more than they hit you. Obliteration techniques, throwing, shuriken and whether to waste pickups on absorbing for a saving grace annihilation move are now just all fancy ways to attack enemies, and not actually necessary methods to survive. Neither are perfect games at all, but the original had a method to its madness, and Sigma removed that because it physically couldn't support it, and they replaced it with nothing.

Also I did really like that gore.


ffefe0 No.14762169

Currently playing ninja gaiden on xbox 360 (yes the non black version works) and I just got past the fifth boss and went through the really annoying red eyes/blue eyes shit only to get comboed by the fourth boss which suddenly appeared without any chance to save the game.

I really love the game but I really despise whatever retard decided to not have any save points before the bosses, it happens with most bosses so far so it cant have been something they overlooked.




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