bfc8a3 No.14751098
Seeing how many games try to ape Diablo- how many of these are actually good or do something different, rather than being an inferior version of a much greater product?
I guess other styles of action RPG are fine to talk about here, but the main focus here is the ones that play like Diablo no, Zelda is not an RPG
80680b No.14751103
>>14751098
There are already another two diablo threads in the catalog use them.
bfc8a3 No.14751134
>>14751103
That's fine if I wanted to talk about Diablo itself, but talking about other games even if they're the same genre would be a bit offtopic. It'd be like talking mainly about Warcraft in an Age of Empires thread.
0f77ae No.14751206
>>14751134
Not really the same thing because Warcraft 3 isn't a clone of Age of Empires. But, to add to the thread, I enjoy dicking around in PoE. It's not as good as Diablo, but it's not bad if you just play on your own. Instead of a skill tree, skills are collectible items, which I kind of like.
7c59b6 No.14751209
You really need to stop referring to Diablo as an "action" RPG. If it cared even remotely about action it wouldn't have a control system that's fucking shit.
bfc8a3 No.14751413
Considering I just beat the second game in the OP, I guess I'll give it a summary:
>you find a magic book that allows you to relive the past when you die
>you have to use it to figure out what choices you make will result in victory
>multiple endings, most of which you die in
>the combat is more than the typical "click on it until it dies"
>your abilities: dash, hookshot, and sword powers all have combat uses with the proper skills
<no inventory, but a decent enough skill tree is in place
<certain assets will sometimes fail to load, resulting in black polygons or invisible ground
<your movement speed will sometimes slow to a crawl after combat is over, lasting until the next level is loaded
<too many damn pop culture references, forced humor
<funded by canuckistan goverment
>>14751206
I've heard good things about that game. My only concern is it being one of those F2P games that makes money off microtransaction.
>>14751209
It's not really about how it controls, it's more about whether or not the combat is real-time or not. Feel free to think of a better genre name though.
7c59b6 No.14751525
>>14751413
>Feel free to think of a better genre name though.
"Real-time clickfest"
bfc8a3 No.14751554
>>14751525
>"Real-time clickfest"
Sounds good enough. doesn't quite have the same ring to it as "blobber" though
20f97a No.14751555
>>14751413
>funded by canadian government
Just like Bioware games, which received over $700 million in taxpayer funded grants, while receiving only $630 million in net sales?
bfc8a3 No.14751577
>>14751555
I'd assume.
Is there some site I can find out how much leaf taxpayer money went to this game or anything?
0f77ae No.14751605
>>14751413
>I've heard good things about that game. My only concern is it being one of those F2P games that makes money off microtransaction.
Microtransactions are all cosmetic and most of the cosmetic stuff is stupid, like pet frogs and wings and glowing eyes. I really don't see myself ever spending money on this game.
a47e39 No.14751634
I recently played through Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 1 and 2 as well as Champions of Norrath. Similar to Diablo with the whole "Kill everything and grab loot to sell or wear". Only available on consoles, but can be emulated if you want to give it a try if you want something slightly different.
f93db5 No.14751640
I've never played Diablo and I've been meaning to try. Does the first Diablo hold up fine? What's the best way to play it in this day and age?
e32f34 No.14751654
>>14751634
>unlocking drizzt in bg:da2
nice surprise
bfc8a3 No.14751684
>>14751640
Diablo 1 is still decent enough. Obviously it'll look like a game from 1996, but the genre hasn't really changed too much since then. It shouldn't be hard to get into as it's a relatively simple dungeon crawler.
Getting it running on modern systems should be as easy as grabbing the iso and installing it if you've got the product key. If it crashes for you, just grab the Diablo 1 HD/Belzebub mod or emulate the PS1 version if that doesn't work out.
https://ln.sync.com/dl/8a0f1cf90/9he6675h-2q38nr8h-jzv2gmrs-k2jukh4v
f93db5 No.14751726
>>14751684
Thanks a lot, I'll look into it.
It's not necessary for Diablo I/II to play online, is it? Is that just for coop?
602a8c No.14751733
>>14751640
give it a shot. I personally think it's kind of shit. D2 and its clones have always fared better for me.
0cbb5a No.14751738
>>14751554
Blobber is designated for dungeon crawlers
bfc8a3 No.14751742
>>14751634
I'll probably give them a try. Wasn't there also a hilariously bad Fallout game from the same devs?
>>14751726
If you're referring to the product key I think so. But given that the game's 20 or so years old, there's probably a number of cracked versions out there.
20f97a No.14751746
>>14751577
I wish. Only thing I found on that was a vague post on Reddit (via google), with a link to a french article that doesn't seem to be hosted anymore.
Given that Ontario general elections are coming up in a month, I'd looked for propaganda to push, but no such luck
f93db5 No.14751753
>>14751742
>>14751726
No, I meant to ask if you can play all of Diablo I/II offline and what does playing online bring to the table.
bfc8a3 No.14751763
>>14751753
Yeah, you can play the entirety of the game offline. As far as I'm aware, Diablo co-op just boosts the stats and drop rates so it plays better with multiple people. I haven't actually played Diablo 1/2 multiplayer yet, so I could be mssing something.
0f77ae No.14751769
>>14751753
Back when the game was popular, there was trading and pvp duels and faggot pkers who would join hardcore servers just to fuck everyone over and fun stuff like that. Now, online is basically a ghost town haunted by bot spam.
f93db5 No.14751771
>>14751763
Ah, gotcha. A couple of years ago a friend of mine tried to get me into Diablo II but sold it as an online game, so I was under the impression online was somehow required or a big part of it.
0f77ae No.14751773
>>14751763
I thought uber diablo and uber baal were only available online.
fea85e No.14751789
>>14751763
D1 multiplayer is a streamlined version where everybody has the same handful of quests. (Skeleton King, Butcher, Lazarus, Diablo) Whereas SP pulls from a random pool of larger quests. Playing it with other people actually makes the game worse.
>>14751773
They are. There's a mod that adds them off realm though.
bfc8a3 No.14751817
>>14751746
Well, all I managed to find is this tragedy.
f93db5 No.14751825
>>14751577
>>14751746
Maybe in some government site? Might be cool to file a freedom of information request if it exists over there.
b295ea No.14751842
>>14751738
I prefer 'Loot Grinder' myself, since you are trying to find the best gear and are breaking down/selling the chaff.
873273 No.14751862
>>14751413
>>14751577
>bestiality
>nationally funded anthroshit
Is Canada truly the national home of furfaggotry?
bfc8a3 No.14751882
>>14751862
Unfortunately, it looks like America and Germany have Leafistan beaten by light-years.
544673 No.14751903
>>14751882
Do they? Obviously Germany wins #1 but it looks like Canada has a lot right there. It's not the US population is that squashed up along the US/Canada border. They could very well be #2 per capita.
f26196 No.14751914
>Grim Dawn
>basically anything by Snowblind Studios
>Dungeon Siege 1 and to a lesser extent 2
>Torchlight 1 and 2
>Sacred 1 and 2
>the Divine Divinity series
>Damascus Gear
>Titan Quest
>the Cladun series and its spiritual successor Legasista
>the Untold Legends series
>the Xmen Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance games
>Victor Vran
>The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing
to a lesser extent
>Dungeon Defenders 1
>the Deathspank series warning for excessive memery
>the Phantasy Star Online/Portable games
>Realms of Ancient War (R.A.W.) pretty shit
d70ea9 No.14751923
>>14751882
I had no idea Ethiopia's alphabet was made up of pokemon.
bfc8a3 No.14751936
>>14751903
I guess you're right. I keep forgetting Canada has about a tenth the population of America despite being slightly larger in land area. the bigger concern is how the fuck the guys in the Middle East and Africa avoid getting thrown off buildings
>>14751914
If enough of these games get suggested, I might try making one of those infographic things.
>>14751923
apparently unown is african jewrunes
efb73c No.14751939
>>14751923
>>14751882
Imagine being the lone furry on the horn of Africa
20f97a No.14751952
>>14751939
OWO *notices your horn and sits on it*
0f77ae No.14751958
>>14751882
>>14751939
Imagine being that one furry floating on an iceberg way up there between Greenland and Norway.
424084 No.14751966
>>14751958
Someday, someday.
bfc8a3 No.14751967
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>>14751939
Why do I get the feeling that guy's probably a crazed Somalian pirate captain?
>>14751958
>>14751966
>meanwhile in Arizona
0f77ae No.14751976
>>14751967
>he made her a cougar
351f41 No.14752010
>>14751967
This is what happens when you let politicians think they can use memes to be "cool".
811de5 No.14752016
>>14751098
Divine Divinity is a great action RPG that takes the most fun elements from Diablo but puts an actual game at its core instead of a skinner box.
>>14751882
Germany, what's going on big guy?
424084 No.14752017
>>14752010
Well that just put an immediate damper on any fun I was having.
bfc8a3 No.14752023
>>14752010
Imagine being her kid.
Must be real awkward suddenly finding your mother suddenly campaigning in a fursuit.
7ee3b6 No.14752050
>>14751882
>my side of america has so many furries the outline on the icon's fucking covered it black
fucking hell
>California's also has a noticeably high ass density compared to their neighbor state
Expected, and now that I think of it most major cites in America are positioned on the east side of America, and most of the low density states are low density farmland or small town states positioned on the grassland. Most cities in america are in dense forest areas likely due to the fact that the surrounding trees provided most of the lumber for buildings and thus people settled there.
On top of that most immigrants from the initial settler population settled in the east, while adventurers ventured out west to find new land, so population density would account for the high degeneracy rate in the east, there's simply a lot of people there, so there's more results.
This however DOES NOT account for California, since they're in the west and their neighboring states would have been ports but don't share the same density of furries. This means that something's gone seriously wrong in California because the culture there has fostered a shitload of furries, they may be one of the bigger states with a bunch of cities, but Texas is pretty much the same thing with the same kind of job opportunities and similar types of cities, and they don't nearly have as high a concentration as California, which has a huge concentration all over the state as opposed to the capital city. The highest concentration elsewhere tend to be the edges of countries where trade is made, specifically the ports where profit is huge, which itself needs study.
but California's culture seems inherently fucked, a fucking horror story, if it harbors that type of mentality to that extent. What exactly is the issue with California? We all know there's a bunch of mentally crazy types there that created the current climate of SJWism and mass retardation.
What fucking elder god abomination roosted there?
424084 No.14752061
>>14752050
Because california has it fucking all. It has tech, it has hollywood, it has agriculture, it has the coast and everything that entails, it has fucking disneyland. California has it fucking all man.
bfc8a3 No.14752070
>>14752050
>>14752061
Mass migration due to the welfare state and previous prosperity driving up the population?
424084 No.14752078
>>14752070
There's always been a steady stream of immigrants to California as well. California has the highest population and GDP of all the states. It's no surprise it has the most furries as well.
06df6f No.14752136
>>14752061
Add wildfires, earthquakes and public defecation to that.
af41a8 No.14752758
What do you guys think the new classes for grim dawns new expansion will be? I want a paladin but I dont think it will happen with the whole desert theme they got going on.
I also really like this particular area they showed off in the development thread, looks pretty cool.
bfc8a3 No.14753494
>>14752078
>>14752078
Given that even in the more rural US states you're bound to run into at least a few furries, I can't imagine what its like in California.
0f77ae No.14753551
>>14753494
Can't? Or just don't want to?
424084 No.14753552
>>14753494
Do you mean like in full fursuit attire or just people you met who revealed they like furshit?
1039a0 No.14753591
>>14751413
You're not missing much 90% of the decent builds require specific items which have abysmally bad drop rates. Like honestly if it wasn't for the horrific itemization and Health (or ES because it's just health but blue) being the only defensive stat that mattered it'd be a good game. But as it is, the game's decent to dick around in for a few hours, get bored browsing PoEtrade (because you will need to use PoEtrade if you want to endgame at all) and then swear when it turns out the item you want is 5 EX or some outrageous amount because a streamer used it 2 weeks ago
bfc8a3 No.14753606
>>14753552
The latter, it was some guy in a computer class.
The guy didn't even try to hide it, he had even furshit as his desktop wallpaper. I had a pretty strong suspicion he may have been a faggot as well, but I don't have definitive proof Honestly though, I was more worried about the guy with the pierced lip that looked like a druggie.
424084 No.14753650
>>14753606
>met the furfag in a computer class
like pottery.
However I've only ever known one confirmed furfag, and a brony who totally swears he isn't into the show in "that" way, and I've lived in commiefornia a regrettably long time.
811de5 No.14753704
Could you faggots stop talking about furfags?
>>14752758
Is Grim Dawn any good? One of my friends has it and he didn't like it.
2a5496 No.14753758
af41a8 No.14753899
>>14753704
Its pretty good, if you have ever played titan quest its like that but more grim.
873273 No.14754488
>>14754359
That's simply epic!!
bfc8a3 No.14754634
>>14754488 (heil'd)
It sucks dick that an otherwise alright game has all those bugs and poor attempts at humor.
9490cb No.14754764
>>14753704
>Is Grim Dawn any good?
I quite like it. Good amount of content and build variety. Certainly worth checking out if you like the genre, and the devs put out actual expansions. Common complaints I hear are that it looks like shit and not enough variety in skills, which I both agree with to some extent. Since "grim" is in the name, it's no surprise that it's a dark and gloomy game pretty much the whole way through. It doesn't bother me much but I think it's a valid point. You generally want to invest in just a damage type or two if you're wanting to go through all the difficulties, which some people say is boring. This again doesn't bother me much but I see the issue.
a634f5 No.14755126
>>14752758
I dont think here would be a new class.
f93db5 No.14755195
>>14751684
>Diablo 1 HD/Belzebub
That changes the base game significantly, doesn't it? Is there any way to improve the resolution without that?
Also, should I play with Hellfire installed on my first playthrough?
>>14751769
Pic related.
bfc8a3 No.14755313
>>14755195
>That changes the base game significantly, doesn't it?
It could be, the base game crashes for me no matter what so I have no choice but to use that mod.
6b5eb7 No.14755412
>>14755195
You should play Hellfire. Honestly, you should play The Hell mod for it and have a better game overall.
34c960 No.14755486
f93db5 No.14755704
>>14755195
fug, I had it running fine but then patched it and now there are graphic glitches everywhere. Running it in compatibility mode with 256 colors and 640x480 fixed resolution makes it work again, but I'm a bit scared of it messing up my desktop icons.
6b5eb7 No.14755754
>>14755486
Nice argument nigger
79ef14 No.14755764
Boy, FATE is not good, but for just how easy it was to create your own weapons and items, I loved it.
bfc8a3 No.14756072
>>14755764
The fact that a somewhat decent game somehow somehow ended up among the shovelware garbage pre-installed on cheap PCs certainly helped too.
c67cf0 No.14756159
>nobody has posted the greatest Diablo clone of all time yet
I've been wanting to play through it again with each class
88f140 No.14756392
The ones haven't been Mentioned are
Cat Quest (Pretty light hearted and alright)
Book of Demons (Cool Gimmick and has a demo, but seems to be in development hell)
Wolcen: Lords of Mayhem (Okay but also EA and may also be in development hell)
Asura (Not bad, different setting, Finished. Perma death only though)
Otherwise I'm in the same boat, I'm craving a new ARPG but want something that isn't just Diablo all over again. Inquisitor Martyr's something to look out for, if you're into Warhammer 40k but I wouldn't go for that quite yet either.
af41a8 No.14758122
71ce28 No.14758262
How are the Shining Force Action RPGs on the PS2?
f93db5 No.14760885
Jesus fuck what level do I have to be to fight Butcher in Diablo? Motherfucker kicks my ass so bad it completely destroys my armor. I've already cleaned the first two levels of the dungeon, I'll try again after I finish with the third one later.
b07ab9 No.14760893
a35a42 No.14761991
>>14760885
Fight him once you have the mana shield spell. That spell trivializes the whole game.
9e8f48 No.14765344
Yall cowards don't even Space Hack
don't Space Hack
it's awful
a2ea40 No.14765351
>>14765318
I think that theres something involving slamming the door in its face
I could never figure out how to slam toe door in its face, though
b2212a No.14766346
>>14752023
Imagine being her husband