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DS4 is much better than every dualshock before it. Major issue is the battery life. Saturn D-Pad is still the greatest D-Pad known to man.

I've always liked the Playstation ones and never had problems with it.

I don't like then the dp-ad is circular like on the 360 controller.

But recently I've played a figher and could only get the commands right on the DS4 d-pad about half of the time. Maybe the 360 one would be better then?

Though I then realized how much better the analog stick is to make those commands, flawlessly executing every single one.

>using a d-pad

There's a reason why Nintendo invented the joystick you luddite

>>14730931

the 360 d-pad is terrible. use a saturn pad, especially for fighters.

>>14730886

i like the DS 3 because it actually has the select and start buttons in the right place.

>>14731044

I used to think that was the case but then I realized that the "Options" button is better positioned closer the the face buttons and the "Share" button is better positioned closer to the d-pad. They're closer to the thumbs that push them in a more confortable place.

Sega Saturn master race

suck it Neo Geo fags

>>14731169

https://www.amazon.com/8Bitdo-SF30-Controller-Windows-macOS-Android/dp/B0748S3GXG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1525307930&sr=8-1&keywords=sfc30+pro

>>14731176

Isn't that Chinese? Wouldn't they use lead paint or something?

>>14731176

Eh,i was talking more about emulating 5th gen stuff and upwards,i'm fine emulating simple 3r'd and 4th gen shit on keyboard

>>14731176

You seem to know about this shit.

You know of any good(relatively, of course), cheap and small usb controllers that don't have analog sticks and only a set of sholder buttons?

I'm thinking of getting one or two for an old laptop I have with a few old multiplayer games.

>>14731195

DS4 is always a good choice for emulation because it's a pretty complete controller and it has that nifty touchscreen you can use to control your mouse and shit with some software.

>>14731176

>wireless

>bluetooth

>$50

>MemeBitDo

No.

>>14731195

Just get a Dualshock to USB adapter then.

>>14731205

>>14731222

Wouldn't it be awkward as hell for gamecube and wii/wiiu emulation?

>>14731227

you really should have the correct hardware for each system, but if you're poor you can just find a general all-round game pad.

>>14731237

I'd love to have a gamecube controller for gamecube ps2 for ps2 etc,but owning those and the adapters for each would be expensive yeah.

>>14731227

>2 Analog

>four shoulder buttons

>four face button

<X - A

<O - B

<[ ] - Y

</\ - X

>>14731242

It'll also have the usual USB shit baggage, being tied garbage drivers and everything. This is pretty much where original hardware comes in.

>>14731247

saturn d-pad.

>>14731247

The GBA SP's D-Pad is pretty solid too, despite being membrane.

>>14731253

I think for the more popular controllers there's probably decent drivers out there.

>>14731244

This(you got X and O mixed up, though), the gamecube face buttons are just the normal nintendo A B X and Y but deformed.

C-Stick is just a fancy right stick.

It only lacks a left shoulder button and a "select".

>>14731227

Anything is awkward for wii/u emulation, but bear in mind that DS4 does feature wagglan capabilities.

>>14731253

>saturn d-pad.

Is worse. You also have to contend with the full retard face button setup on that.

>>14731283

Hmm,asked a friend and they said they use a switch pro controller,can anybody else attest to them being good for emulation?

>>14731287

the saturn d-pad is the greatest d-pad ever made. Feel free to argue it with Hori, Capcom, Sega, Sony, and everyone else who has adopted it for standardization.

> You also have to contend with the full retard face button setup on that

it's 6 buttons, standard. think of it like a diamond with two additional buttons on the side, plus two shoulders. You never used it, have you?

>>14731301

individual buttons are possibly the worst.

>>14731283

I bind A to X on dualshock because that's what I'm used to pressing for "Confirm"

>>14731305

Nobody cares Segadrone.

>>14731305

>"Hori adopted it for standardization!!"

Meanwhile, just above in the thread….

>>14731155

Original DS is the best dpad I've personally ever used. DS3 is good enough though and can be used on PC.

>>14731044

It's very easy to touch or push down the touch pad when you're trying to hit "start"/"select" buttons on the DS4 because they're positioned very closely and not very well identified. I remember having similar problems with the start/select buttons and the menu button on the 360 controller but it's been forever since I used one.

>>14731337

DS4 is $47 on amazon right now, anon.

>>14731347

Yeah,could get it on ebay for 30 bucks though since i have a coupon,i'm thinking about it.

>>14731329

What do you think the fighting commander is?

>>14731325

>High numbers of face buttons on a hand-held controller has always been a bad idea.

6 isn't a high number. I don't know about you but I don't use the tip of my thumb for every button press on any controller. How are you holding these things?

>>14731187

It's actually of high quality

>>14731360

>6 isn't a high number.

It kind of is when you only have 1 thumb.

The thumb sohld rest confortably in the middle of the 4 buttons, having extra buttons on the side means your thumb will have to alternate and move closer to farther buttons when you need to press them.

>>14731350

DS4 > DS2 > DS1 > Original PS Controller > Madcatz knockoffs > DS3

I do like that the sticks are spaced out wider on the DS4, though you gotta watch it setting it down. Sony never grasped the idea of having the housing have a rest so the shoulder triggers don't rest on the table.

>>14731360

A standard Nintendo Cross, not a Sega Circle.

>>14731325

Six is fine for most 2D games, and fighters make great use of it, you just gotta change your grip. Rest your right hand's three fingers over the six buttons like an arcade stick.

I can definitely say the Logitech F310 pad as well as the controller itself is overrated trash. The dpad on the those is far too mushy and as someone who's gone through two of them, the inputs can start to not respond requiring harder presses.

>>14730931

>360

>for fighters

Stop

>>14731329

Who do you think makes the fighting commander?

>>14731176

>8ShitDoo

Stopped reading there

>>14731380

Why is the dualshock 3 so low? it fuck your mother or something?

>>14731386

Hori. They said Hori adopted the Sega Circle for standardization, when they didn't.

>>14731386

They fucked the ergonomics up trying to keep the original Dualshock silhouette. They thickened the main body to house the battery which made it really hard to hold.

>>14731382

Their controllers are absolute memes, but the adapters for old consoles are nice if they'd stop sucking down Silk long enough to make some for non-Nintendo consoles, or a Gamecube one.

The ds4 dpad is extremely mediocre. I don't know if it got worse after just a bit of fucking wear (not even a year)but mine feels really cheap right now, it sounds disgusting when pressed, the buttons sit very loose in the cutouts, it can be moved/pushed around like that and it just feels repulsive. Definitely get something better

>>14731400

>not having pressable pieces at her tits

missed opportunity

>>14731403

Ah you fucking cunt,making me regret my choice,i was just about to buy it too.

>>14731380

>A standard Nintendo Cross, not a Sega Circle.

look at the mechanism. Do you think the NGP stick is an analog stick because it looks like one on the outside?

>>14731400

Late-Life Madcatz is pretty good. I'm mostly referring to the late-90s into 00's era Madcatz.

Also, the Brawlpad is really meant for characters with a lot of Quarters and Halfs, the pad is really spongey like a 360 pad.

>>14731414

I own one, it's membrane switches. It's not a bad membrane pad, but membrane it be.

>>14731410

Nigga, do you play standing up? Just rest it on your knee. Perfectly comfortable. For most non-fightan games on the Saturn you pretty much only use AB and XY with C and Z being used for extra shit. The controller actually spoiled PSX SOTN for me, as you have a literal "Use Item" button that lets you bind a use item for instant use.

>>14731422

The D-Pad on the Xbox One controller is actually really clicky and nice, and the positioning isn't total garbage like on the 360. Microsoft has always done a great job on analog triggers though. Nice, long travel with good sensitivity makes for good racing games. Kinda sucks when and FPS game doesn't let you adjust the sensitivity though.

>>14731449

>FPS

>Controller

Surely you jest.

>>14731410

The problem with that image is that one of those face buttons inevitably gets used far more often than the others. Usually A or Sony's cross. Thats why the design decision for gamecube's controller is justified.

>>14731453

Listen, when you're enlisted and have a limited amount of space for your shit, a console makes more sense than a PC. Also made impromptu LAN parties when stuck in an area with shit internet that much less hassle. It's not ideal, but it gets it done.

>>14731454

Even on the Dualshock, X and O get used way more than [ ] and /\

>>14731464

Well,as somebody who appreciates veterans and active service members,you have my thanks

yes this is a bit faggoty but i wanted to say it.

>>14731411

I've heard people got bad ones back when they were first released. With wearing analog sticks and such.

But I think that guy is memeing or didn`t take good care of his controller, mine is tight.

>>14731449

>Just rest it on your knee. Perfectly comfortable.

Surely you jest.

>a literal "Use Item" button that lets you bind a use item for instant use.

Or, you know, it could be bound to a sholder button or something that didn`t require you to take your thumb off the main buttons.

>>14731454

>one button is the most important

>therefore the other buttons aren't important at all

Nah.

I like the gamecube and it's controller, but that is dumb

>>14731479

Yes it's extremely faggoty. Active service members do nothing but enrich a small cadre of military industry executives at the expense of US citizens' social services and the lives of foreigners we have no business shooting at.

>>14731411

Truth be told Im not sure whether many better controllers - or many controllers with specifically better dpads exist, but then I've also hardly tested any. And I still think it's mostly good - the whole dualshock 4 controller - it's just the dpad is kind of the biggest disappointment. Played a lot of emulated games with it but it doesn't feel nice anymore, maybe it did when it was still a fresh purchase

>>14731449

Tough I agree that with some games, like fighters, it's better than 4 buttons. Specially in your case if you really can't have an extra fightstick lying around.

>>14731485

>DS4 a shit

Early production was rushed, but current production samples are okay.

>Surely you jest

For fighting games it's perfectly fine, you only use the D-Pad and face buttons anyway.

>Waaah I don't wanna take my fingers off the main buttons

It's what, a quarter second to just quickly grab Z and go right back? Is your muscle memory that shot?

>that is dumb (Re: GC)

That was the actual reasoning of the designer though, that A is used more than every other button, so it should be central.

>>14731485

No mine is already one of the "newer" ones where the rubber won't come off the analog stick. Incidentally, another complaint I have with it is the analog stick got a bit misaligned already, but at least the feel of them is nice still

>>14731494

Sure,but i still respect them because they're risking their lives

>>14731494

I cringe at "Thanks for your service", I didn't do shit. I fixed airplanes, didn't get shot at, and most Soldiers agree with you; We shouldn't be in the middle east at all, we should withdraw to our homeland and tell the world to fend for itself. We don't want to get shot for Israel, the Enlisted guys do it because job prospects where they come from suck, they can't afford education, and it pays pretty fucking well if you're single.

>>14731552

I'm trying to give ya some praise ya daft cunt,take it.

>>14731564

Do you clap at the movie theatre as well?

>>14731574

Who the fuck goes to the movie theatre when it's not worth the admission?

>>14731577

I think you understood the implication.

>>14731580

I know what you meant,my feelings will not change for respecting people in active duty,even moreso shit like cops who have to deal with literal niggers on a daily basis.

>>14731582

Your feelings are stupid and unwarranted. "I-it's just how I feel okay?!" is some top tier normalfag autism.

>>14731590

I legit am a sperg so if you want to blame it on that go ahead,i have a father who served,and his father who served,and it probably runs from that.

You're free to think differently,of course.

>>14731475

Shame that SNES style controller was import only. There was also a third party Gamecube/Wii adapter to let you use actual SNES controllers, but those has gone out of print (before I could get one myself, sadly). Shame the actual Gamecube controller's d-pad is pretty bad.

>>14731523

Calm down, soldier.

I never said the "DS4 a shit"

I agree with you that 6 face buttons is much better than 4 if it's for fightans that actually require all those at once, but with that different grip, of course.

I don't have a problem taking my thumb off it's resting position. I sometimes do when I have to pause the game, for example, but it's certainly better when I don't have to.

The "problem" with the GC controller wasn't that the A button was bigger and more centralizes, it was that the other buttons had to be separated for it.

Pressing B along with Y is very uncomfortable, for example.

I think GC games were designed around this, but using it for emulation starts showing how it's not optimal.

>>14731576

The soldier worship is a reaction from the Boomers abusing Vietnam vets who were largely there against their will thanks to the draft. You can blame this entirely on the fucking Boomers. Worshipping soldiers is pretty dumb. Don't worship cops either. Neutral respect is all you should be aiming for. It irks the shit out of me seeing Active Duty guys walk around in uniform as well. These are the sorts of assholes who didn't pay attention during Anti-Terrorism training.

>>14731616

>Shame that SNES style controller was import only.

I don't recall needing to import mine. The box has some Japanese on it, but I got it pretty effortlessly off US Amazon. Was pretty cheap back then, too.

>>14731619

I can't really think of any games where I had to hold one of the face buttons and press the other.

>>14731630

Anon… look at the prices now.

>>14731625

I think it really depends on how much of a hell hole the cop operates in,if it's one of the more fucked up cities,they either have a death wish or REALLY want to serve their community.

>>14731616

there are some generic converter adapters for the gamecube/ps2/xbox that lets you interchange controllers between the three. They're probably pretty cheap and work pretty well. PS2 on GC would be a good alternative.

>>14731636

Cop hazard is extremely exaggerated, they don't even make the top 20 list of most lethal occupations. You're far more likely to die as a roofer. And then they're trained with ridiculous videos like this at the academy so they're inculcated to respond with lethal force to fucking everything.

>>14731636

Cops run a wide gamut. Small city/town cops are generally decent, especially if they grew up in the town/have family in town. It's when you get into larger city cops and staties that they start to get tyrannical. I don't yell "YO FUCK THE POHLEES" at them, but I generally don't interact with them when I can help it.

Also, businesses don't give cops freebies out of the goodness of their hearts entirely. There's a reason why most non-corporate stores will donate to the local FOPD. Not because they're coerced to, but it is a way of soft-bribing your local cop into getting your calls prioritized.

>>14731653

Like i said,i think it depends on the area,there are some real fucking nigger places in america where i'd hate to be a cop.

>>14731665

I wasn't even referring to corrupt cops,i was just talking about those that have a hard time interacting with the populace because the general public is retards.

>>14731653

Where's the lie though. Niggers draw on cops all the fucking time.

>>14731633

Mario's "B-Dash" comes to mind from the top of my head.

But it's more about having the thumb over both buttons and being able to press them with a tilt of the thumb rather than simultaneosuly holding both.

>>14731666

I was trying to make the point that the more ties to the local area a cops has, the more likely they are to be bro-tier cop who doesn't bust people over a nickel-bag of bush weed.

>>14731671

Eh,weed is its own deal of argument,i hate people who use it because it's mostly to be lazy cunts,but that's something for another time.

>>14731675

Arresting someone for a small quantity is a waste of resources, and a massive dick move. Bag the dealers, not the addicts.

>>14731436

Those both look like shit, especially the fingerprint magnet.

>>14731682

I'm not disagreeing with that,i just think the substance in general is shitty with how it's been accepted as okay when it's a crutch for lazy fucks

>>14730895

Nah. DS3 is the pinnacle.

>>14731643

But would stuff like emulators ported to the wii probably recognize the controller for a different system? Just asking, since usually homebrew for the Wii is made to work with particular controllers (Wiibrew listing off which ones work with what). Or would the system just see A PS2 controller as a Gamecube controller if it's using an adapter anyhow?

>>14731841

They recognize them as whatever input you've got them adapted for. That's the whole point of them.

Just today Valve added the Switch Pro controller to the Steam beta, making it properly configurable like a Steam/Xbone/PS4 controller. I'll try it out later since it's my favourite controller so far.

I never tried a Saturn pad but don't they use a ball-bearing or something at the centre?

>>14731176

I have the SF30 Pro and it's honestly pretty good. Not perfect, but better than the DS4 IMO, which only works via Steam or via a 3rd party tool, but not both at the same time, which is super fucking frustrating. Plus it lags like shit on my system at random times using the same bluetooth connection as the SF30.

Really liked the DS3, but for some reason fighting games were always a nightmare with it, I was lucky if special inputs worked 1 out of 10 times. You also have to be careful with its connector, it'll gradually get destroyed if you're too rough with plugging the wire into it.

>>14730960

< using an analouge stick for items meant for dpad

i hope you find the the perfect woman hit it off have every seccond with her be pure bliss and then the night you first make sweet love it turns out she had aids all along and only told you after words

>>14732044

it's a pivoting inner-plate on between a contact pad and wide range movement cross on circle d-pad. One of the neat things about it is you can press down or up by just changing the angle of your pressure from the same part of the d-pad. It's difficult to describe, but no other controller feels as precise.

>>14730886

>I know you guys recommend a DualShock 3 or 4

Nobody recommends those dpads. Saturn pad or bust.