2e963a No.14717451
What went wrong, why was the remake of one of the best games of all time pretty much glanced over by everyone?
ac14af No.14717464
a1c827 No.14717467
>>14717451
nintendrones, thats why
542010 No.14717490
>>14717451
You can ask the same question with Journey and The Last Guardian, Sony didn't shill it as much as they can and did the bare minimum with the final product, but with SOTC remake here, not enough shills and everyone has played it, the PS2 was more impressive while the PS4 is just, bleh.
d0ea45 No.14717509
>game that's been rereleased seven times over already
>no new content
>bloom and other needless effects out the ass
There's just no reason to get it if you have any other version of it, or, really, have played it once.
While most people think of it as some masterpiece, it's a niche game and everyone who cares for it already owns a copy.
1f83e1 No.14717521
Because it's not a sequel so really who cares, anyone who enjoys the original game to the point of playing it over and over will play the original not the rerelease.
b9e674 No.14717531
>all the people who aren't plebs already played the original
>everyone else bought a PS4
b432b5 No.14717533
>>14717451
>one of the best games of all time
if it's so good where are the big boobies and guns anon?
THAT'S RIGHT THERE AREN'T ANY BECAUSE THIS GAME IS PRETENTIOUS ARTSY SHIT FOR FART SMELLING FAGGOTS LIKE YOURSELF FUCK YOU GO BACK TO ART COLLEGE YOU FUCKING NIGGER
1ced1c No.14717534
Because it's a shit game that journalists back in the day shilled to the heavens because of "muh artistic value".
db6a67 No.14717538
>>14717451
Because any iteration of this art piece is boring.
c1003f No.14717546
Was it glanced over? Is there any sales data? SotC is still a remaster of an old release so there's no point in expecting massive sales, people who already have the original don't really need it, unless they want the prettier pixels and minor added collect-a-thon. I still bought it and enjoyed it immensely.
Last Guardian is more of a mystery since the hype for that game was unreal at first and then it sort of had diminshed returns. It's a shame since TLG is literally ICO and SotC in one and it works quite well. At least both of these games and the Gravity Rush duology are cheap to get.
766fa7 No.14717561
Because shadow of the colossus is not one of the best games of all time.
73383f No.14717581
>>14717451
>why was the remake of one of the best games of all time pretty much glanced over by everyone
It's almost as if everyone had a chance to play it 1) when it came out, 2) when it was later re-released for the PS3
How is that a surprise? Like, fuck man, the game's great, but it lasts like 2 hours and there's zero new content in the remaster.
88ceb0 No.14717582
I believe 'remake' is the key word here.
b3dc88 No.14717588
>>14717451
The original SotC was pretty much glanced over too despite what /v/ thinks. Now that the playstation audience really is niggers did you actually expect them to respond better? They can't even sit still long enough to play it let alone understand it.
3696bc No.14717613
because streamers and memequeens can't ride it for their 'bro armys' for weeks at a time. it does it job and leaves after a few hours play.
542010 No.14717628
>>14717546
It's a full remake, they already had a remaster for the PS3, but for reason instead of actually finishing The Last Guardian which was a rushed port job to the PS4, they decided to remake this game instead while not bothering to give it any marketing.
e530a8 No.14717637
>Woah just woah why did a remake of a remake of a remake of a remake of an old short ps2 game released by sonyniggers not get much attention?
The base game was mediocre, and the remakes are even worse because despite being able to FINISH the game and add the cut content that was only removed due to ps2 limitations, they choose to make a shitty quick garbage re-re-re-re-re-release "remake" that adds nothing but new controls and indieshit-tier visual upgrade.
I've seen free mods that enhance games a trillion times better than the shitty SOTC "remake" did. Literal NEET autists can make better games on a budget of pizza and cola than "professional" $150,000 salary game devs.
20a4b4 No.14717674
Because most casuals are pieces of shit with shit taste.
37911f No.14717713
I like the game, but I already have 2 copies of it so I don't feel the need to be an even better goy and get it again.
fe9567 No.14717986
>Shit tier visuals that kill the atmosphere and actually have inferior models to that of the PS2 version
>Nothing new is added like the cut Colossus meant to be ingame
>Implying most Sonyggers will buy anything that's Japanese or even care that a game runs at 60 FPS
69298d No.14718232
Nothing went wrong except some of the visuals and a missing detail here or there. The game play is the best it has ever been.
dfe7d0 No.14718241
>>14717451
Literal cucks buy remakes, the original was perfect
69298d No.14718269
>>14718241
20 fps and below
fe9567 No.14718277
69298d No.14718315
>>14718277
>cuckchan defends cinematic 7-20fps gameplay
>wanting 60fps is now resetera
reminder neofags never came here
3cf849 No.14718322
It had good graphics but it didn't capture the artstyle very well. It also has shitty view distance. I know the ps2 sotc practically cheated it's view distance but it still had it.
dfe7d0 No.14718399
>>14718315
Why would I spend 600 dolarinos on a bloodbornstation if I can play a emulated ps2 version modified to better fps for free. Unironically kill yourself
3bc50a No.14718464
>>14717451
Because I played the original and did all the hard mode time attack shit back then. There is quite simply no reason to buy this remake other than if I cared about graphics. Which I don't because I've been playing Half-Life mods all week.
69298d No.14718481
>>14718399
>being a BR
>thinking emulation at "60" fps in a broken engine that gets confused when going over 30 is better
>same fag that said the original was perfect
I'm not even convinced you know what FPS above 30 looks like.
3be324 No.14718486
I've never played it. Is the game really just a boss rush?
69298d No.14718489
>>14718486
yeah, dont bother playing it
1c95d6 No.14718506
I dunno. How can one improve upon a literal perfect masterpiece? The thing that made SotC so special was because you HAD to have played it on the PS2 when it first came out. Otherwise, you would never fully understand or appreciate what a technical marvel the original truly was. Just getting those 16 towering colossi to run on the PS2 pushed its hardware to its absolute limits. Its gameplay of massive climbable enemies was wholly unique, and the minimalist somber storytelling made SotC a memorable tragedy.
The PS2 always had massive potential, and SotC was the game that showcased how far that potential can go. And honestly, that's what people appreciate the most. Games that can tap into their respective hardware's fullest potential. Like Super Mario Bros 3 for the NES. Like Super Metroid for the SNES. Like Ocarina of Time for the N64. And now, Shadow of the Colossus for the PS2.
I'm not saying you HAVE to play it on the PS2 or anything. Just that if you're playing the PS3 rerelease, PS4 remake, or on modern PC emulators (with none of these SotC versions pushing the PS3/PS4/PC hardware to its breaking point), you likely wouldn't be as impressed.
Regardless, let this game serve as a reminder that if you're developing games, if PS2 devs managed to create THIS with old PS2 software/hardware, you infinitely more powerful hardware now at disposal and could (likewise) showcase the world what it can accomplish.
19b2c6 No.14718513
>>14718486
Every single enemy is a boss
957999 No.14718522
>>14718513
Except the lizards :^)
55a338 No.14718544
It probably would have sold really well if they said they added a bunch of secrets and lore stuff to it, and marketed it based on that. Instead it was just the same game everyone already bought the HD version of, made slightly more HD.
Not that I'm saying this is a good thing, mind you. But imagine the clamoring for MUH LORE that would explode it into the news if they said they were adding the dam back in or something like that.
2a3d1a No.14718554
>>14717531
>>all the people who aren't plebs already played the original
I played the PS3 version with higher res textures, does it count as original?
19b2c6 No.14718566
fe9567 No.14718573
3bc50a No.14718596
>>14718554
No because the slightly increased framerate actually makes the game more difficult on PS3 because like any self-respecting nip developer. They're fucking retarded and tied framerate to game logic.
d4bcc8 No.14718599
Who would have thought that an HD remake of a shitty game is still a shitty game?
a57bc7 No.14718920
Because it was never one of the best games of all time.
It was innovative, but that was it. It had no replay value after you figure out the Colossi patterns on normal and hard modes.
Shadow of The Colossus is THE definition of overrated. Good on the first play, better on the second, and completely boring from then on.
Normalfags let the beautiful scenery and graphics blind them, and not see the that game was average at most.
>>14717546
Because it was never good. Only normalfags brainwashed by (((journos))) and by their own stupidity in believing that Team Ico were talented game designers (they never were) would believe that The Last Guardian was anything but more artistic boredom with minimal and tedious gameplay.
>>14718232
The original is average at most. The remake is shit.
Fuck off, corporate soyboy.
>>14718486
Yes, with the added boredom of having to walk long distances between every boss, without anything fun to do until you reach one of the Colossi
>>14718506
Nah, the game was mediocre. Average at most.
Graphically, it was beautiful. And that was it. Everything else is just tedious during the walking parts, and after a playthrough on normal and then hard mode, knowing the Colossi's patterns made everything tedious.
fe9567 No.14718969
>>14718920
>Shadow of the Colossus is overrated
>It has bad design
No
3ec942 No.14719056
>>14717451
it was a remake, that's why
i got interested thinking it would be like REmake or the Twin Snakes but there was no new content added, just a graphical update to a game that alrready looked pretty damn good
it ain't like FFVII whit fanbois wanting the same game but looking like Advent Children instead of Lego
SOTC fans alrready had a good looking game and the only thing they wanted were more colosus to kill. but this game had none of that, just the same shit but in HD
c9e01a No.14719158
>>14717451
>one of the best games of all time
66027f No.14719192
>>14718322
>he still has his 30 images scraped from the fucking trailer saved and numbered
>he still thinks people care about what he had to say when the final product proved itself one of the best remakes ever
There are a handful of areas where some graphical fidelity inconsistencies mean the games look different. Those areas are a perfectly reasonable price to pay for 1080/60 for the rest of the game.
28007d No.14719245
This game was always pretentious navel gazing shit whose biggest influence on the industry was providing inroads for fart sniffing faggots to promote the idea of overlooking gameplay in favor of an illusion of depth in a narrative that would be rightly mocked as shit if it were released in any other medium, because every other medium has higher standards.
Note that the type of people who like that type of shit have since moved on to games with even less gameplay, and they've already exhausted any "nerd" cred that could be had by saying they like this game. They have no incentive to continue to pretend they like it. This is what happens when you believe hipsters saying they like things. This is the equivalent of when Warner Bros. invested in a Green Lantern movie because Bazingaman referenced it and all the hipsters started pretending they liked Green Lantern. The only difference is that Green Lantern actually had good source material.
957999 No.14719286
>>14719245
>promote the idea of overlooking gameplay in favor of an illusion of depth in a narrative
>game has little story, and what's there is almost never directly told to you
>only 3 story cutscenes, and one of those is the goddamned credits
>game never skips on gameplay, the player has control at almost all times
So did you just not play it or are you just retarded?
66027f No.14719287
>>14719245
>overlooking gameplay in favor of an illusion of depth in a narrative
at_least_bait_the_hook.jpg
28007d No.14719346
>>14719286
>>14719287
I didn't say they talked about the cutscenes, but it does have a narrative, and the fans constantly masturbate over it. Pretty much have to since there is very little gameplay to be had, and half of what is there is just going from point A to point B in the most barren and boring world that was ever put in a video game.
If the game cut the walking segments and added a fuckload more Colossi to actually give it a decent amount of content, it would be okay. Controls could use significant work as well, but if you didn't have to deal with the fucking horse then the worst of the controls would be mitigated.
But just look at this thread. I wasn't the first one to mention narrative. People here were praising it before I mentioned it. All it ever comes down to is talking about things like "narrative and atmosphere" and the closest the praise ever gets to gameplay is "big enemies." Oh, and graphics, even though the design is ugly and boring. But I guess I can't complain since that matches the rest of the game completely.
0f1734 No.14719351
>>14717451
Because it doesn't add a goddamn thing. It has absolutely none of the cut content and was only released to hype up that gay movie.
957999 No.14719368
>>14719346
>there is very little gameplay to be had
69298d No.14719385
>>14719351
the fuck are you talking about, they never said they were going to add in any cut content you fucking idiot, it's a remake not a new vision. it also has some new content :^)
3c14cb No.14719404
>>14719192
>>he still thinks people care about what he had to say when the final product proved itself one of the best remakes ever
I cared about his analysis on the horse's ass.
1c95d6 No.14719507
>>14718920
>he says it has "no" replay value
>none whatsoever
I disagree. It might not be much, but there's still "some" replay value outside the main game.
Even if you've memorized all the patterns, the time attack mode is still an aggravating challenge. It's here where you can put all that knowledge to the test. Succeed, and you'll get bonus items like the Queen's Sword.
This may be more superfluous (kind of like the watermelons in Ico), but you can also try climbing up to the secret garden and bridge. Most SotC fans generally do. It's the room with edible forbidden fruit. I'm not a big fan of the Bible myself, but the "Garden of Eden" atmosphere there is so surreal and uncanny.
>he calls it both innovative and "average" in the same breath
There's only one game that copies the original SotC's unique gameplay: its PS4 remake. To call it "boring" is your own subjective opinion, but to call it "average" is just plain wrong. That implies that there is a whole host of games out with similar gameplay to SotC's giant boss climbing & stabbing. A typical turn-based rpg or first person shooter might be considered "average" because they share similar gameplay to other (better or worse) turn-based rpgs and first person shooters. But a game with unique gameplay like Shadow of the Colossus? The "average" moniker doesn't stick if there's not much competition to compare it to and get a general average from.
Not that I wouldn't mind the existence of more games that are giant 3D boss rushes. But even if they did exist, I'm certain that SotC would still rank as one of the best in that new category. If not The best.
ca56f6 No.14719559
i've never played the original and i already have a ps4.
should i play this game? or is it better on the ps2
957999 No.14719577
>>14719559
Depends, do you want to burn 60 bucks on something you could emulate? And do you have a computer than can emulate?
ca56f6 No.14719586
>>14719577
i'd wait for it to be under $20.
i have plenty of games in my backlog atm.
is the remake a better way to play the game? or is the original PS2. my PC can emulate, but not at a great framerate or resolution.
77b3fb No.14719609
>>14719577
>And do you have a computer than can emulate?
The real question is do you have a PC that can emulate SotC in particular, this game is up there with ZoE 2 in how fucking huge the reqs are.
55a6a6 No.14719867
Played the remaster, loved it, beat the game that I've already beaten 20 times 2 more times in a week on hard mode and didn't feel the urge to stick with it because of the lack of new content. I'll revisit and get the platinum though. Highly enjoyable, but a bit unnecessary.
c8d58c No.14719888
>>14718596
How so? Does the higher rate increase how quick your grip gauge decreases etc?
69298d No.14719904
>>14719577
>60bux
the game launched at 40. shills really love to lie.
69298d No.14719911
>>14719888
no, the team porting it over fucked up and used the pal version which has appropriate timings for 50hz but just sped the game up to hit 60. the ps4 remaster is more thorough and accounts for the more precise game logic.
c8d58c No.14719913
>>14719904
But accounting inflation that's more or less what the original was.
d0ea45 No.14719916
>>14719904
>shills
How can one be a shill for advocating NOT buying a product? You're the closest thing to a shill here, anon.
66027f No.14720308
>>14719586
>is the remake a better way to play the game?
The added visual fidelity and smoothness of 60FPS more than makes up for the game's few shortcomings on PS4. Backlog or not, this game is VERY good and people talk about it for a reason; you should try to buy it used or on sale as soon as you can.
>>14719911
The PAL version also has weirder physics which cause Wander to stumble more frequently and easily. It makes the game harder, but not more challenging (although I liked it since I first played the PS2 Greatest Hits version).
69298d No.14720374
>>14719916
>not knowing a shills job is to also distract from discussion of other things and make it a taboo subject
>he doesn't know that this is why you can't discuss certain things in public too
0250fe No.14720433
>>14719904
The PS3 version is less than $15, so you're still getting ripped off. The only people who are going to buy this are graphics whores and normalfags who throw their money at the latest disappointment.
66027f No.14720444
>>14720433
Honest questions:
>How does preferring 60FPS instead of 20-30FPS make you a graphics whore?
>What was disappointing about the remake?
69298d No.14720456
>>14720433
looked it up and it's actually 30 right now. Finding some copies for a little cheaper too. The PS3 version is the worst despite its more stable 30fps at 720p framerate, the physics and feel of the game are fucked up.
5490bc No.14720471
>>14717451
The original game features very little actual gameplay and a lot of cinematic crap, when you remake that without nostalgia its obvious how little content there really is.
a5c244 No.14720563
>We'll never get those extra colossi and areas
I just wish this industry wasn't so fucking stupid 100% of the time.
<B-but it's a remake not a new game!
Tell that to fucking Resident Evil.
a71183 No.14720567
>>14717451
It's only been ~13 years, they didn't wait long enough to redo it. For maximum profit, you need to wait until enough time has passed that the previous generation doesn't play or relate to games anymore, and the current generation has only heard about it in all-time top 100 lists. That way you capitalize on brand/reputation without the drawback of criticism over too much/too little changed vs. the original, and all you have to do is deliver a semi-competent execution to rake in money. If they had released it in 2025, it would have won GOTY from every source.
69298d No.14720591
>>14720471
quiet you dumb faggot you never played the game
0250fe No.14720595
>>14720444
>How does preferring 60FPS instead of 20-30FPS make you a graphics whore?
I was mainly referring to the graphical "upgrade" and how people will buy it for that reason alone, but I don't see how playing it as 60 fps matters that much either. It probably looks and feels better than 30, but I don't think it's enough to justify paying double what you could be buying it for.
>What was disappointing about the remake?
The fact that another remake was made to begin with. It honestly seems like SotC has been relegated to being a quick cashgrab Sony can use once a generation. If a meaningful amount of time passed and some real effort was put into the remastering, then I would be completely on board with it, but that's probably never going to happen.
>>14720456
I was looking at the price of the downloaded version, which is $13.50. You can also get the physical version on Amazon for $22.50.
>>14720567
>It's only been ~13 years
A remake for the PS3 was released in 2011. It hasn't even been a decade since the last remake of the game.
69298d No.14720600
>>14720595
>I was looking at the price of the downloaded version, which is $13.50. You can also get the physical version on Amazon for $22.50.
might as well spend 8 bucks more for the best version of the game.
0250fe No.14720606
>>14720600
Considering it also comes with ICO, you're not wrong.
66027f No.14720633
>>14720595
>I don't see how playing it as 60 fps matters that much either
The original got away with poor performance, but it's night and day looking at them side by side or playing them. The price is probably a little too steep, but I think you'd be surprised how many normalfags started with the 360 and/or PS4.
>generational cash grab
How do you draw the line between a cash grab and game preservation like the Mega Man Legacy Collections (or at least the theory of them)?
>remake
What additional content did the collection have? All I can find are 7-year-old dead hyperlinks; I know it wasn't new bosses or game modes.
dfe7d0 No.14720643
>>14718481
I don`t think you understand what samefagging is you sonygger
a57bc7 No.14721065
>>14718969
It was always overrated. (((Artistic))) boredom simulator for the most part, for journos to praise.
Go play Alien Soldier for a real boss rush and good game.
>>14719363
And here comes the projecting cuck. FPS means nothing. The overall package is what counts. There are slow as fuck games that still are fun to play. The remake is shit for all the other unnecessary changes that it made, atop of being a re-re-re-release of a game already re-released not so long ago, with only graphical filters (that are a downgrade for the visuals of the first game) and no extra content that was expected by those that even care about the first game.
>>14719507
It is a game that it's main appeal only last for the first (and for some, maybe the second on hard mode) playthrough. It is fun on those first times, and then that is it. There are many more older games and even a new one with the same premise (boss rush) that are more fun to play. Their gameplay is better, and it always feels good to play them over and over. And they don't have the boring walking simulator parts of Shadow of The Colossus that everyone seems to pretend that it does not exist.
Also: the truth is always objective.
>>14719346
This.
Shadow of the Colossus is 50% literal walking simlator (((artistical))) shit. Fan(soy)boys always try to bury that fact.
c7712c No.14721073
>>14721065
maybe if you had more than three brain cells you wouldn't wander the map for half an hour looking for the next colossus like a chump. It takes no time at all to get to them. Also fuck off free entertainment commie.
203654 No.14721165
>>14721065
>Was it always shit?
>no
The game has gameplay, little "cinematic experience", and actually ties into it's last game ICO, sure you walk (or ride your horse if you're not a fucking retarded chimp) a long distance but at least the collosi have different designs and ways to tackle them.
66027f No.14721525
>>14721065
>a fast-paced 2D platformer has better gameplay than a slow, atmospheric exploration game
>this grapefruit has better milk than your cow
>FPS means nothing
Oh, I thought you were serious for a minute there.
1bb624 No.14721561
1c95d6 No.14721682
>>14721065
>There are many more older games and even a new one with the same premise (boss rush) that are more fun to play
Please don't tell me you're referring to Cuphead. The selection of 2D boss rush games out there is plenty, but please realize that there's a dearth of 3D boss rush games. I don't mean games like Dark Souls, where it has great boss battles, but separated by levels where you gotta mow down scores of minor enemies. I just mean 3D games where you can fight one great boss after another, like how SotC did it.
I really wish that there were more 3D boss rush games like that ^, because by not wasting their time on minor enemies and levels, I feel that modern devs can truly produce amazing boss battles if they choose to focus all their time and effort into making them absolutely spectacular. Especially with today's advanced technology (unlike the old 2000-2006 era PCs used to create SotC's towering colossi), the possibilities that could be done now are just unimaginable.
But sadly, that potential is never tapped much. The most you usually get for 3D boss rushes are whenever games have both bosses And minor enemies/levels, but sometimes also offer up a "sub-mode" challenge where players can defeat the game's bosses back-to-back.
>It is a game that it's main appeal only last for the first (and for some, maybe the second on hard mode) playthrough
Sounds like you personally got jaded pretty quickly by SotC's serene horseriding segments, it seems. That's okay. We all get jaded by stuff we're not into. If riding the horse and taking in the vistas on your way to the next boss weren't your thing, replaying SotC over and over won't force you to like something you initially disliked in the first place. It'll only make you hate it more and more.
I just… don't see what the problem is, quite frankly. You ride a horse to the next boss with no superficial distractions to impede your progress. No minor enemies to deal with, nor pointless sidequests to get the way. I get that some people like to waste their time in explorable worlds and ignore the main objectives (making Link choose to fish instead of saving Hyrule for example), but I'm actually pretty glad that SotC's devs chose to forego all that and focus Solely on making amazing boss battles.
>>14719609
As this anon notes, the game is pretty demanding by PS2 standards as it is. Those huge colossi are seriously no joke. Had the devs chose to include pointless stuff that would have diverted attention away from creating the boss battles, I can only speculate the compromises one would have had to make to fit it all on the PS2.
The colossi battles, for example, could have been more toned down in scale than what we have now. Other contemporaries like Okami or Twilight Princess (which have explorable worlds with loads of side content) have fun boss battles, sure, but nothing quite the magnitude of SotC's colossi in sheer size and technical accomplishment.
>Also: the truth is always objective
…Riiight.
69298d No.14721692
>>14721682
no other game has boss fights as interactive as sotc to this day. The only people who are shitting on it are mustards desperate to maintain majority on a board increasingly weary of the most vocal fanatics who fail to realize their efforts aren't working and are quickly becoming the most tiresome people on the board. It also helps that the SotC physics are fucking incredible, 60fps only making them better, and no other 3D action game controls like that in any regard.
c7712c No.14721715
>>14721692
I'm a mustard and love the game, so fuck right off.
69298d No.14721721
>>14721715
Rub those brain cells together and realize if you aren't a fanatic you aren't the subject.
21fde3 No.14721743
>>14721721
<I wasn't talking about you, I meant those BAD ones.
bf94f4 No.14722975
It wasn't glanced over, though?
e31c2d No.14723094
>>14719192
No, I care about what he has to say.
28007d No.14724460
>>14721073
Nobody said it takes forever, just that it's boring and pointless. Yes, there are lizards and fruit. Just enough content to make you want to look around, but not enough to make it any fun. Your choice ends up being either skipping a large part of the game's content, making it a bit harder as a result (which isn't that bad since the game is fairly easy), or actually trying to get all the content in the game, but being bored as fuck while doing most of it.
>>14721165
The "cinematic experience" is the same as every game now, where they think it's okay because no cutscenes, but there's no actual gameplay either, even though you're in control. The point is just to make you look at shit and enjoy the "atmosphere" because they weren't good enough to put real gameplay.
b47710 No.14724467
>>14724460
So basically you don't know what you're talking about and are just tossing around buzzwords.
fe9567 No.14724489
>mustards desperate to maintain majority on a board increasingly weary of the most vocal fanatics who fail to realize their efforts aren't working and are quickly becoming the most tiresome people on the board
You're nothing but a smudge Sonygger
162fdf No.14724523
>>14718544
>It probably would have sold really well if they said they added a bunch of secrets and lore stuff to it
That would've made me care.
>>14719351
>Because it doesn't add a goddamn thing. It has absolutely none of the cut content and was only released to hype up that gay movie.
Pretty much. High res doesn't make a game worth replaying.
>>14718920
>It had no replay value after you figure out the Colossi patterns on normal and hard modes.
>Good on the first play, better on the second, and completely boring from then on.
>Shadow of The Colossus is THE definition of overrated.
What's overrated is replayability itself. Innovation is my greatest factor in discerning game quality.
>It was innovative, but that was it.
That's enough to make it one of the best games of its generation.
23bbb2 No.14724588
28007d No.14725662
>>14721692
I'm a Sonigger and I still hated Shadow of the Colossus. I think the concept is interesting, but it doesn't execute it well. The open world doesn't help at all, and seems only there to pad out the game since it doesn't actually have enough bosses, despite the bosses being the whole point of the game. You might also talk about the physics, but the controls suck. No, I don't think randomly stumbling is a good mechanic, no matter how you try to justify it. Sometimes there are things that look like you should be able to grab them but you can't, or things you can't that look like you can. Don't even get me started on the horse.
To be perfectly honest, the time attack mode seems like it might make things more interesting, but after slogging through the game once, I couldn't bring myself to keep playing it to bother with the time attack, even though the game is so short. I feel like I should go back and do that, since I do know other games that only show their true potential after beating the story mode, but this game's story mode was particularly boring.
Better than Ico though. I'll give it that much.
>>14724467
So basically you can't contradict anything I said, so you used "buzzword" as a buzzword to try to deflect.
fe9567 No.14725796
df90cf No.14733651
>>14725662
>I'm a Sonigger and I still hated Shadow of the Colossus
Back to neoFAG with you.
5490bc No.14741089
>>14725796
>>14733651
Try actually reading his post faggots.
7b0863 No.14747776
8cf638 No.14750207
>>14717451
Lost/cut colossi from the original weren't included. Not in any form whatsoever.
It's not a remake. I don't know why press releases kept referring to it that way. It's just a remaster with tweaked controls, physics, and GRAFIX.
Biggest missed opportunity in recent memory.
2b1209 No.14755829
>why didn't everyone buy a newly release copy of their favorite book?
5503f9 No.14755852
>>14750207
It's a remake because everything was remade. Remaster means re-release. Why do so many people have problems differentiating these words? It's right in the name. Do you not know what a master means?
c99dc1 No.14756032
Same reason as Journey and other games. It's a pleasant game meant to be enjoyed by oneself. Talking about it would just spoil the magic.