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Release order is the only correct answer ever. Fuck anyone that says otherwise.

>>14716832

Yeah but I haven't played any of the other games

should I start with 6, the latest one? I know it has VF 5 in it

>>14716836

Release order means from Yakuza 1 nigger. Get to it.

>>14716836

Do yourself a huge favor and boot up pcsx2 and >>14716832. First one can take some putting up with at times but it should keep you till the end and it's really fun to see the series evolve… 3 is the only one that may be worth skipping (it's the equivalent of a beach anime episode) but it's still worth watching all the cutscenes.

Play 0 first. At least don't play Kiwami before 0 whatever you do. There is many direct references to 0 in Kiwami

>>14716842

and if you need more convincing watch

If you really really don't want to reach back to the series' PS2 days and start there, then do what >>14716843 said. Kiwami is made to be played by someone who has already beaten 0 anyway.

>>14716832

I started with Yakuza 1 on PCSX2, up to chapter 10, and it's really just an awful game with a shitty dub carried by the good story. Then I got Yakuza 0 and it's amazing in all aspects.

I would recommend starting with the first one to see how much the series improved, but if you're going with that angle then there's no point in going full release order. Just play the original and then 0. From what I understand Kiwami expects you to have played 0 so it's actually the worst starting point possible, only get it after 0 if english dubs give you anaphylactic shock.

>>14716867

I heard in the first game they removed nearly all the minigames in the international release, resulting in it looking like a bad GTA cash in

>>14716860

>>14716867

>skipping 2

that's a serious mistake

>>14716872

There's going to be a Kiwami 2, isn't there?

>>14716870

Doesn't help that it was advertised like that. After Yakuza 3 they only got better about how they handle these things.

>>14716877

Yes, with Virtual-On 2 player VS.

>>14716877

>Kiwami is a replacement for the originals

Lol no

>>14716870

There definitely isn't much to do apart from the story in the western Y1. The claw machine is still there but I'm not sure I found any other minigame. The side stories are still there but they're so out of the way they feel like chores to find. In 0 they jump at you. It might sound worse but that makes the juxtaposition of extremely serious drama and silly shit work much better. Not to mention it makes you forget about the time.

>>14716878

Shame too, Majima is voiced by Mark Hamil

>>14716916

I'm going to guess you were born in 2002. If I'm wrong, I apologize, but your posting style is reminiscent of someone born in the early Gen-Z era.

I think I'll start with 0

Seems like it has more content, I was gonna get 6 if only for the VF5 built in

>>14717009

Says the punk ass who refuses to play PS2 games.

>>14716828

>Should I play the prequel to the first game, the remake of the first game, or the final game that ends Kiryu's story first?

:thinking:

>>14717251

wait 6 is the final game?

>>14717268

For Kiryu's story yes. You'd be a nigger to start there. At leas start at 1 since Yakuza 0 has some references that only long time fans would get.

>>14716832

With Kiwami there's really no reason to play Yakuza 1

>>14717291

Yes there is, the remake kinda mixes things up with the gameplay the makes the balancing weird. Also, they add a bunch of useless cutscenes.

>>14717291

It's a fun but flawed game that has aged a little, but it's really nice to see where the series began and how it grew from there. It also only takes about an evening and a half to run through it.

check the catalog before making a thread you attention starved beast

>>14716828

Emulate the originals and wait for a PC port.

>>14717388

>video claims kiryu kills a guy

>just hides behind someone while another guy kills him

Nice try, dubsman.

>>14724781

That guy wouldn't have died if Kiryu didnt put him there. He made a guy get shot. Some random waiter. Isn't that close enough to doing the deed yourself?

>>14724814

>Isn't that close enough to doing the deed yourself?

That's some jew york lawyer-tier logic. He also wouldn't have died if his chest wasn't aerated by a rifle, or if he hadn't been employed by a Triad restaurant. While I agree Kiryu is the reason he's dead, that in no way means he killed him.

ideal method is release order, especially because the QOL improvements of each game in the series makes the other ones "age". In the even you can't emulate the originals, or get them on ps2, or whatever then another option is chronological order being:

>0 , kiwami/1, kiwami2/2 (kiwami 2 releasing in august), 3, 4, 5, 6

going into 6 to start would be really bizarre because it mentions a lot of previous characters but they don't show up as much in 6, It also has a new engine which makes it a little more barebones than where 0 and kiwami left off. 1 is a bit dated but worth a playthrough and 2 is still a really fantastic game that i wholeheartedly recommend playing vanilla before kiwami 2 comes out due to a few somewhat minor changes that might take away some of the initial impact of certain scenes.

>>14724814

>Some random waiter.

Every waiter in that joke gets ready to throw dukes with kiryu shortly after that event so he was probably chinese mob too. in yakuza 5 kiryu uses guys as human shields during the pier fight too so maybe human shields are past his code of conduct

>>14716828

Start with 0 then Kiwami 1 and 2 then 3 on forward.

>>14716916

Shut up, faggot.

>>14733202

> and probably the best of the bunch currently.

That's on PS4, I mean.

>>14734333

Wait for pc ports

>>14734333

Trips say you should.

>>14734359

>hurr durr shit only matters if it's on peasea

>>14734739

He has a point. How far has piracy on the PS4 gotten? Can you only pirate older games or are newer ones also piratable? If it's the latter case then there's nothing to wrong with modding a PS4 and pirating the games on it.

>>14716877

>kiwami 2

no

>>14716832

this tbh

>>14716916

kill yourself nigger.

>>14717009

>wah i cant play old games!

Who's the gay nigger again?

>>14736299

Yes.

>Yakuza 0

>Playing a Majima chapter

>Correspond with a girl in a goddamn toilet stall

>Eventually agree to meet her, get punk'd by punks who reveal this is a scam

>Turns out they weren't actually behind your specific conversation and Majima misses the obvious beauty that stands right fucking there

This game did not accustom me to such blue balls.

>>14737861

Remember that she was writing in the mens stall. It's a man.

So I'm enjoying the cabaret club minigame in 0 but I'm kinda stuck at the first rival battle. The fat fuck just gains brouzouf like crazy before his special skill even comes into play. I've got a pretty nice hostess lineup, too. Two golds and lots of silvers.

I suppose it's an affair that requires grinding fans/hostess levels, but to what point?

>>14742013

I did it on my first try, but the thing is that sometimes the rival battles are purely luck-based. For the last rival battle I remember the motherfucker already charging up the lvl 1 of his ability before even a customer could be seated for me and completely wrecked me, but the next try it took him a bit less than a minute to get to the lvl 1 of his ability. I'd say that you should do 3 more grinding runs and then try again. Also you should get at least another gold, at that point I already had all the golds you could get outside the shrine (I did the whole minigame without those, also there's 4 of those) except for Unknown and you get her from the payphone substory. I don't have to go into how much of a pain in the ass it was to get a Chinese sword in the Dragon and Tiger, I got dual Chinese swords two times, but that of course wasn't good enough.

So I'm nearly to the end of yakuza 6 and Why the hell do the Sawamura's always choose the worst men for the fathers of their children

>>14742077

Gotta admit though, at least it wasn't nearly as much of a fuck up as Yumi's fuck up was as the Chink ends up sticking around for his son.

>>14742013

I find the golds and silvers dont mean shit.

You'll want hostesses with a specific stat like talk, party and skill. I run into the problem where alot of the hostesses dont have a high "love" meter when the customer wants it.

>>14742659

It's a mix of gitting real gud and being real lucky. The car chase sequence is much harder than the one in 0 for some reason, but here are a few pointers

1. always go for headshots and use heat eye whenever you think that things are getting dicey

2. if a bike has a passenger, ignore him and just kill the driver because killing the driver takes the bike out entirely

3. during the van section, just keep nailing on the sitting guy and only shoot the other guy when he pops out. After the sitting guy is dead you'll have a clear shot at the driver. Take him out as fast as you can and ignore the popping out guy

4. the truck section is a truckload of shit so it needs its own section:

a. focus on the middle guy first (the one with lower health) and save your heat eye, only shoot the other guy once he gets red and until he gets stunned so he turns green again, afterwards a car will come

b. the heat eye will help a lot if you need it, shoot the fuckers in the cars first and take care of any rockets the RPG guy shoots, shoot the RPG guy only when you don't have anything else to take care of, when he is dead you'll be at the front.

c. focus on the truck guy and only shoot the bikers when they're close to firing. Last is the truck driver.

d. just be accurate and pray he dies before you do, he is by far the biggest piece of shit Chink in the entire section

>Just finished Yakuza 1

Christ this had a high bodycount. And maybe one day Kiryu will be an actual Yakuza. Maybe one day.

I guess that means I'm downloading Yakuza 2. Does it improve much over 1?

>>14742701

Yes, Yakuza 1 and 2 are like night and day. I never found it rough to go back to 2, only going back to 1 takes some getting used to.

>>14742709

Well, Yakuza 2 dropping the dub is certainly a significant improvement, but gameplay wise it seems largely the same deal, with a bit of welcome polish. Where's the big upgrade?

Also, one thing that's obvious when you're playing the PS2 games along with 0 is that Kiryu went from a relatively normal-faced guy to master scowler.

I'm surprised Yakuza 6 seemed to have a mixed Amazon reception in Japan. Its disappointing compared to 0/5, but its still a great title and still better than 3/4. I just wonder if they rushed it out to finish up Kiryu's arc.

>>14744629

It is rushed, yes.

>>14745361

You beat them up anyway

>>14745369

oh i see, i bought it from them cuz i figured they wouldve turned you away and you wouldnt be able to finish the side quest till you did.

>>14745376

Here's the number one lesson for all Yakuza sidestories involving shady-looking people telling you to spend money - never pay them.

>>14745391

and theres no way you can accidentally end all process of a side story? like a fallout quest?

>>14745397

You mean like fail one? Yeah you can, but ever since 0 they are more lax about it and usually if you fuck up you just get a shittier reward or none at all. In the games before if you fucked up for some substories you could really screw yourself over.

Rate my play order.

Kiwami 1 - Kiwami 2 - 0 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6

>>14745423

2/10

Even if you're not going to play 1 and 2, play the rest in release order.

>>14745423

Kiwami 2 before 0 is kind of sillly. You should play 0 either first or after Kiwami.

For the CP in kiwami 1, should i only get the battle stuff? or the Adventure stuff? if i do all the challenges will i be able to get all of the cp gear?

>>14745439

Forgive me if I sound incoherent because I had a few drinks and roaches before typing this post. I already know 0 is a prequel, and I know it references other games, but I don't have access to 3, 4, and 5. So, my line of thinking is I should play Kiwami first, wait for Kiwami 2, then play 0, then once 3,4,and 5 are released on PSN I'll play them then play the finale. It's hard to plan a perfect order when you don't know what to expect from the series and they aren't all available at once.

>>14745459

In that case just play the ones you have available in release order. There are a lot of new references in Kiwami to 0 that weren't there in the original and there'll be more of them in Kiwami 2.

>>14745471

Yea, but I also heard people who played Kiwami are disappointed in it after playing 0.

>>14745459

0 has references, yes, but they're subtle if you don't know what you're looking for. Plus, a new character in Kiwami 2 is introduced in 0, that's a kind of fanservicey scene that you would miss out on. But the biggest reason is that Kiwami 1 and 0 are very similar in gameplay while Kiwami 2 uses the new Dragon engine from 6 and plays very differently.

>>14745474

That's because it's a budget title. Also, I have no idea why they'd be disappointed if we take into account that their only other frame of reference is 0. If you're a Yakuza veteran then you'd have a lot to bitch about, like I did. Still, I enjoyed the remake for what it is.

>>14745479

>>14745481

So I should start in 0 then? Okay, another question, if Kiwami is adding alot of stuff, would I be lost if I play 3 on it's own, since that's not a remake?

>>14745490

No. Let's say you play in release order which is 0, K1, 6, K2 and then Sega decides to port over 3, 4 and 5 and then you play those. The Kiwami games add references from 0 that weren't there, but the plot and core of the story is untouched, so with that in mind you should have no problems. Going back to any of the games isn't that hard either.

>>14745502

Okay then, so I guess I should start with 0 then. Thanks anon, you're a great help.

>>14745502

>Sega decides to port over 3, 4 and 5 and then you play those

I am pretty sure PC release of Yakuza 0 is more likely to happen, than 3-5 ported on ps4.

That's really a stretch since 5 came out fairly recently to already deserve a remaster or a collection inclusion. And PS3 is not a dead platform yet.

>>14745523

No problem. Just remember - when in doubt, play in the fucking release order.

>>14745526

Sato said that if there's demand that they'll port over the PS3 games onto PS4.

>>14745534

>Sato said that if there's demand that they'll port over the PS3 games onto PS4.

Should I give them an email just in case?

>>14745555

I dunno, ask your quads. They have spoken and they've given you a clear answer.

>>14745555

Just remember that even if they decide to make Kiwami versions of the PS3 games it will take at least 3-5 or more years for them all to release. If you're that patient, go ahead, but if you have a PS3 I'd just get the originals. Also good luck getting Yakuza 3, it's been getting scalped to hell.

>>14745598

They won't be Kiwami versions though, they'd be straight ports, like 1 and 2 were ported straight to PS3, but you can only get them if you have a nip account.

>>14745612

>They won't be Kiwami versions though, they'd be straight ports

Yea, I get that.

>>14745612

You think so? I'd think they'd want to show off the Dragon engine as much as possible by remaking 3-5 in it. I don't think SEGA would settle for just a straight port at this point.

should i buy the cp exchange stuff for the adventuring areas? or should i just google the stuff ic ant find?

>>14745664

>Ichibanstein

I'm willing to give him a chance, I'd like his character model to get tweaked because he looks great in the art. I wouldn't mind if they make him "edgier" than kiryu so they can let loose on some elements in the story. I'm more curious about who will be returning characters in his story, it's only 2 years after yakuza 6 or so. I'm certain Kiryu will end up being a secret boss or by some complete fuck up he shows up to fix everyones shit again.

>>14745761

He looks 20-30 years older than in the art, how did they fuck up that bad

>>14745768

the age thing was probably intentional, he's gotta be in his 40s or so in game based on the backstory

So I just finished all the hostess substories in 6 and in my headcanon after the story he marries Sora and lives out his life in Taiwan together with her

>>14749397

If Faggook's death made you sad, wait until near the end of the game. Shit hit me right in the feels.

>>14750236

>that filename

I was really thinking that during yakuza 4. I'm a big Akiyama fan but I dunno if i'd want him to be the main character of an entire game because his fight style needs some more edge too it at times

>>14750292

I replayed 5 before 6 came out, Taiga was really fantastic in that with all his guilt from 4 resolved. I dunno how intentional it was but it was fun how calm he was in all the situations in 5, like near the end when the guys get out of the cars and open up automatic fire on the gang and Taiga barely fucking flinches

>>14750292

I'm playing through 5. Kinda got weirded out by the hunting shit all of a sudden. How did we go from being a badass yakuza beating people up in streets to hunting simulator 2015?

>>14750277

>his fight style needs some more edge too it at times

Yeah, he's too smooth and cool to pull off the really brutal shit that everyone loves. You'd need to give him a crazy brother or something to suit the style.

>>14716916

>not playing some of the best games of a generation

>not playing MGS2 &3

>not playing DMC

>not playing Shadow of the Colossus

>not playing ZOE

>not playing AC:0

>not playing katamari

looks like someone has shit taste

>>14716870

>>14716898

That's a damn shame. Really kills my interest to go back to western Yakuza 1 (I'm on ch3, sneaking into the funeral), but my literacy in Japanese isn't near good enough to play the games at a comfortable pace. I suppose I could replay 1 when I get to that point, but it's going to be hard after playing the rest of the games, according to how people say the series improves overall.

>>14734739

>shit only matters if it's on peasea

Only a console war queer would not want any game outside a DRMbox with better performance especially considering the low perfromance of 6 and for future proofing.

The sooner the better

I want Yakuza 0-2 to be a Ryuji game but I also want it to be a Majima game. Could it be both like Yakuza-0 was? Does it NEED Kiryu?

This thread inspired me to buy 0 since it was on sale, and it's actually really good. Thanks OP.

Question though: I tried beating the first boss in Yakuza 0 on hard without healing items, and it took me forever. Only thing I could manage in the second phase was rush style combos into his back after evading, as nothing else would stunlock him. Was there something else I could have done with the limited moves/skills by that point?

So, in 0, can the two characters switch towns at the end, on account of both having exclusive activities? Seems weird Kiryu would be able to compete in the river of styx if he can't go back, he's got his own artwork in the menu and everything.

>>14753708

Yes. The finale in all Yakuza games that I remember well involves talking to a guy who tells you "this is the point of no return if you say yes" and allows you to explore the game world unmolested, along with being able to change characters, locations and even time of day.

>>14753712

Good news, cheers. Although there was no such thing in Yakuza PS2, you're roped into the final chapter with no warning. Well, the actual end doesn't start until you go to the millenium tower and you're free to roam, but there's no point of no return warning, and there's a shitload of tough enemies around so it's not exactly fuck-around paradise.

Side stories in the OG were pretty poorly implemented, really. It felt almost like a pixel hunt. I like the "move around and get hit in the face by side stories" model much better.

>>14753730

I see, the original is the one I remember the least. I know for a fact that in 2 Date is the one who has the "say yes if you're ready, this is the point of no return" dialogue, while in Kiwami they made it so that you have to go to Stardust and talk to Kazuki in order to go beat the game.

I've only played Yakuza 5 and can recommend it. Definitely a game that seemed to do a jack of all trades thing fine enough, but was missing some polish in nearly every area of play.

Are the other Yakuza games as varied as 5? From taxi driving drift car shit to hunting bears and idol dance reaction games, I felt the variation really kept me wanting to look for more, even if it started to get repetitive at some points.

>>14753835

A lot of this comes down to 6 being rushed, I've read that apparently YK2 is more complete. Though I've also read that YK2 won't have Shinseicho so all of the substories that involve it will be placed in Sotenbori instead. I don't remember what they'll do about story stuff that happens in it tho (though the only thing I remember about Shinseicho is that Kiryu goes on a date with the waifu there).

>>14754030

>Shinseicho is that third area from where you see Tsutenkaku tower, right? IIRC it's where the shogi players are.

Yup!

>Besides that, they screwed the pooch into a bloody pulp when it came to the OST and I don't just mean press F for Crazy Ken, almost every good track is a goner or got a poor remix.

They couldn't get the rights to remix the composer who made classics such as Evil Itself, Northern Menace, West Insanity and a bunch of others.

I wouldn't be complaining if the replacement tracks were as intense as the originals, but most of them sound so flat. Especially the crappy track that replaced Northern Menace since you hear it so much in the game, the track that replaced it is so lethargic and low energy.

>take the blame for friend murdering your boss

>go to prison for 10 years

>friend turns into a shitheel

>girl you left behind loses memory and has a kid with some evil bastard

>get out of jail

>life goes to shit

Hate to say it but Haruka is the result of cuckery

>>14755520

considering who harukas biological father actually is, nishiki woulda been an upgrade

>>14755592

They both turn out to be pretty evil.

>>14755435

Nishikiyama got dealt a pretty shitty hand. Still find it hard to believe that omniscient gokudou Jesus and competitive 9th dimension underwater shogi player Kazama-oyabun didn't set him up to fail and was willing to let a innocent child die for it.

>>14755924

Jingu was a cunt through and through but Nishikiyama got pushed off the deep end. Not saying he dindu nuffin but the circumstances could break most people.

I need to replay Kiwami one a these days. Maybe a NG+ run so I don't have to get exhausted grinding Majimas or mini-games for CP.

Meanwhile, just finished Ch11 of 6. Made me wish the sequence was longer, the stage music is great (embed related) and the boss theme doesn't lag behind either.

The revelation confirmed some suspicions I had and took them to whole new levels. That said, some dots are still blurry and I'm not figuring some whys (especially regarding Jimmy Lo's death) but I'll wait for further developments.

And got a Live Chat - I've got every video for both girls except the last 3 that are listed after the private one. Not sure how to get those, already got Anri's private 3 times.

>>14756091

It was all a part of his master plan to make his favorite child Kiryu the chairman of the Tojo clan. Whether he also predicted that he'd get grenaded by Shimano and that Kiryu will be the chairman for a total of about 15 minutes remains a mistery.

>Majima gets 300 fucking million upon defeating his first cabaret club

>Kiryu gets zilch

Is that to balance out the fact real estate brings out more dosh for less effort?

>>14758470

Probably. You also get 10 billion (that's right, BILLION) for defeating the last club. I remember before playing the game I've read about how tough it is to get money with Majima, but all of his shit is twice cheaper than Kiryu's so I ended up having to send money to Kiryu rather than the other way around like I expected to. Did they make Majima's upgrades cheaper in a patch or something?

>>14716870

>I heard in the first game they removed nearly all the minigames in the international release, resulting in it looking like a bad GTA cash in

no that was the third game, retard

>>14758470

Real estate is just a cash dispenser and by the time you have everything, it really is nothing more than "stop by every 5m to pick up a billion+".

>>14758521

>how tough it is to get money with Majima

There's these two big guys walking around town and you can beat them up for a good hundred millions.

I remember feeling relatively low on cash with Majima when I was trying to get the T&D related trophies as well as craft everything.

Meanwhile, finished Hikaru's story, didn't like her that much but that substory was hilarious. That was a fun twist.

And moved on to the last one, Sora. Giving Saki a run for her best hostess money. Reminds me of the mainland hostess from DS. Very agreeable and the token dork. Probably flicked her bean to Sephiroth but nobody's perfect.

>>14758622

The cabaret club is definitely vastly more fun but hey, gotta unlock those abilities.

>>14758622

Becoming the Mr. Shakedown of Mr. Shakedowns is how I got the cash to get all of Kiryu's upgrades. The cap is when they carry around about a billion at the least and it was enough for one of the top tier upgrades and it didn't take long either. It becomes pretty trivial when you get Dragon style too, due to how easy it is to activate the parry. The Beast style bearhug is also really good in 0, I remember draining a full healthbar with just one of those. It's kind of a shame how much they nerfed it in Kiwami.

>>14758521

>>14758622

With Kiryu you eventually unlock abilities that make Mr. Shakedowns drop more money. I don't know if it's still the case but when I played that meant that if you let them beat you up as Kiryu and let them take your money you could then take your money back + extra.

And you just did that a couple times and you raked in the billions.

>>14758719

>it also works on Mr Shakedown

About that, the Shakedown moveset is actually extremely easy to counter, especially his charging move which looks identical to Kiryu's Beast style advancing block. Since all the frames within the charge do damage, it means that all of them are active frames, meaning that you can do parries or counters whenever you want. Same goes for Majima's Mad Dog dash that he can do out of every finishing slash, because he can run into people with it and it does damage. Why that is relevant is because Kiwami's Amon in Mad Dog style can drain your whole HP bar with just 2 slashes, but if you know that you don't even have to bother being precise with your Tiger Drop whenever he's Majima dashing towards you it makes the fight that much easier.

>>14758719

>(that's gonna be a pain in the ass, I bet).

It's actually really easy because the pattern at which the pitches are thrown are always the same, so you can just memorize or write down at which area you have to put the cursor in.

Played through all of 6 and only encountered a Sega goon twice.

Still in chapter 1 of 0 and already encountered him 3 times.

Considering how prominent hostesses are in this series, can we talk about that topic? Any old normalfag can shriek about how Japan is sooo weird, but hostess clubs are truly something that exists which would never fly in the western world.

I find the subject fascinating - it's basically extorsion in exchange of having a fun conversation with a pretty girl, yet, both the girl and the guy benefit from it somehow. I find myself wondering how it would be like being both the customer and the hostess. Why blow your hard-earned salary (and everyone even faintly familiar with Japan knows Japanese jobs blow donkey dick) on chatting up a girl, and what would bring you to work at such a club as a young adult girl? Like, wouldn't there be a social stigma to deal with?

>>14759265

>what would bring you to work at such a club as a young adult girl?

Money, obviously.

Gotta say that I don't understand it either. Like if I was some rich fuck who could easily afford doing it I'd give it a go but with the nipponese jobs and salaries who knows.

How do you play Yakuza? Do you beat it and then try Legend difficulty, or you stay on Premium Adventure and complete all minigames?

>>14758752

>Also, does it count as a retcon if it's a prequel?

Yes.

0 for sure. Then maybe Kiwami if you liked 0. I'd hold off on 6, I found it extremely underwhelming.

>>14759500

>Eurofag here, we kinda got sleazy versions of it. Double as a strip joint and maybe a front for hookers but the basic concept of the hostess club applies

I am a eurofag, living near a capital even, and I'm not aware of anything like that existing.

>>14760992

In Eurofag countries where prostitution is illegal whorehouses are often masked with fronts operating similarly to how hostess clubs operate in Japan. The difference being that there'll always be fucking afterwards.

I love the segregation between story and gameplay. Kiryu has never killed but regularly uses a sledgehammer to shatter skulls like they were watermelons

>>14763177

They're usually massage parlors though

>>14763526

>Also just can't get a bead on Someya, pretty complex character.

He's my favorite new character. He seems like the stereotypical overambitious character that we've seen a thousand times in Yakuza already. Since Yakuza 6 for some reason reminded me a lot of 3 I thought he'd just be an ersatz Mine, but his ambition seems to be tempered by a strong sense of honor which makes him a unique character. He is like a polar opposite of Sugai, who is a snake and a pathetic, weak man who, despite being a veteran in the Tojo clan has no loyalty to its organization or history. Someya at first seems like a modern yakuza who has no attachment to the past, but in some establishing shots, like the one where he decked that guy for saying that Kiryu is just a washed-up old fart, it's clear that he actually holds deep respect for people who were important in the history of the Tojo clan, especially Kiryu.

Both of his themes are also top-notch. Shame about the way he had to go, though.

>>14763671

That's in Western Europe, here where I'm from they're a bit more complicated since organized crime syndicates usually own nightclubs and hotels. So the arrangement works in a way that you go drink in a nightclub and chat with the woman you're gonna fuck for a while so it seems legit, then the fucking happens in that hotel room.

>>14763691

>So the arrangement works in a way that you go drink in a nightclub and chat with the woman you're gonna fuck for a while so it seems legit, then the fucking happens in that hotel room.

Sounds expensive

>>14763704

It is, but the whores are of a high quality as a result, so they function more as high-class escorts. Low-class sex work usually isn't tied to an organized crime syndicate, but rather to pimps who operate independently. In rare cases where it is tied to a syndicate, then the pimp works like an associate of the syndicate he has to report to. Since he isn't a full-fledged member, a simpler way to describe him would be that the syndicate is his pimp in those situations.

Got through kiwami, decided to get 6.

But it just makes me want to play 0 and kiwami more. Hope that changes. The fighting is fun and it's nice that you can bloody up your enemies again but something just feels off.

>>14742680

Thanks for the tips, I actually got to the very last asshole in the truck several times but he kills me without fail. I give up. I refuse to fight Lau Ka Kong again so I've moved on to 6.

>>14764954

Is it the 30fps and that every character model looks like a wax statue? Because that's the problem I'm having at the moment.

>>14765087

I understand. The truck driver is, without fail, the most unfair part of the whole shooting section and to rub it in they put him at the very end. You're basically guaranteed to take at least 2 hits and he takes away a fuckton of life when he does. I also ragequit the first time I played through Legend at this section and I only came back to it 2 weeks later, then I beat the section on my second try. So maybe don't give up on it completely.

>>14765233

I believe the only equipment you can't get from shops or as a gambling reward are the ones you get from Bob Utsunomiya and lockers, so you should be fine. Simply obtaining the equipment counts towards the completion list, you don't need to keep them.

Was hoping Joon Gi Han would put up more of a fight. He seemed like he was gonna be a really strong character.

Maybe on Legend mode…

Sooo… about the ending

did kiryu actually kill those people he said he was going to? they never made that clear. at all.

>>14768738

how the fuck do you get to be ono michio?? that wasnt in my outfit list at all.

oh yea, i forgot he shot himself. iwami is going to kill haruka in yakuza 7, isnt he… i dont remember there being an epilogue, was it intertwined with the credits?

>>14768825

awesome, thank you very michi.

strange, i seemed to block out iwamis part.

>>14734363

Hello to you too brother

>>14768773

Han just took punches until he did the same grab and punch move. He didn't even attempt to dodge. I beat him with basic square combos. He just let it happen.

>>14770071

I do believe that 3 to Kiwami still reused animations from the first two games.

6 is almost completely new.

>>14763691

>He is like a polar opposite of Sugai, who is a snake and a pathetic, weak man

he talked shit and wasn't willing to even get hit for it, absolute punkass

>>14768766

No, in yakuza 7 it's a new MC. Kiryuu is all done.

>>14770106

When it comes to random encounters, 6 still reuses almost everything, but some of the animations were reworked due to how blocking works now. I think that the Muay Thai moveset that Pramuk used in 1 which has the most mileage out of any moveset in the series is still there in 6, it just refuses to go away. Kiryu however, is completely different, yes.

>>14771499

so ive been wanting to ask people, and i dont know if you played MGS5, nore do i know what happens in yakuza 6, but was yakuza 6 a better send off to its protagonist than MGS5 did?

>>14771516

I remember that when I played the last mission of MGSV essentially a replay of the very first one I felt somewhat okay with how things were presented but the thing with that game is that I felt cheated long before the ending, whether almost the entirety of Ch2, the absence of that much fabled Ch3 or the lack of proper resolution to things like Volgin. Konami are cunts but Kojima really needs a firm hand on his leash.

I'd say Y6 is a better send off by virtue of being a story helmed by the series' protagonist unlike MGSV but there are things left without closure and one might say it sucks the last chapter in Kiryu's story doesn't have the character that's been dogging him since the beginning but the set up of this story could really only work with the premise of the three 'jimas being away. From what I've gathered, most people are disappointed with 6 as Kiryu's send off. I don't remember the overall opinion on MGSV but personally I ended feeling that Big Boss was a fuckin' asshole and Venom Snake a bona fide hero.

>>14771584

Well im still playing through the series for the first time, im playing through kiwami as it was recommended to me after i was asked if i preferred DMC or Metal gear rising, he said if i picked the former to play the original, which im loving the series so far. Its healed the scar that MGS5 left me, and ive been wanting a series like this to pop up. the mini games, the intense boss fights, the sound track is amazing too! I just wish i found this series alot more sooner, i wouldntve been so burnt by MGS5, that game was a huge determent to my moral in gaming, it was suppose to change everything and it let me down, or i let myself down. It feels like this series has that MGS Flair without the shitty publisher, like this series is really going to continue existing.

>>14749300

>in my headcanon after the story he marries Sora and lives out his life in Taiwan together with her.

Seeing how her karaoke scene went, I like to believe that along with her going on a search for him.

>>14768766

>Iwami is going to kill Haruka isn't he?

Doubt it seeing that he'll probably get killed during his prison time.

>>14771516

MGS5 showed that Kojimbo can't write for shit, and I was not too fond of Kaz suffering along with Kojimbo turning Big Boss into a backstabbing asshole. Y6 did a better job, and despite it's major flaws like some of the story line, the weird character development choices ex. Kiryu did all he can to raise and keep Haruka away from the crime life, but she ended up getting knocked up by a chink and having his child., and the disappointing final boss battles. it's still leagues better than MGS5.

>>14771499

>Tsuneo, while being the worst of the lot, he feels more like a product of his father's foul character.

See, I disagree with that. Long before the game came to the West I read about how Yakuza 6's main villain is even more of an irredeemable piece of shit than the ones from the PS3 games, with which I agree, I think he's an even bigger piece of shit than the likes of Police Chief Jingu, Jingu and orphan-hating CIA niggers. The reason why is because he basically could have had a free ride through life. Even though his dad did his share of monstrous things, he wanted his son to make an honest living working in Nintendo or wherever the fuck it was, don't remember. However, Tsuneo basically threw a temper tantrum, got himself a tattoo and spent a few months in the gym to prove how tuff he was. Then he stopped at nothing to fulfill his ambition, even getting innocents involved. Like Kiryu said after beating him, he's a literal who, a nobody with no redeeming qualities who thinks he can become a high-ranking yakuza via a series of temper tantrums. Even after Kiryu beats him he doesn't get the "I WAS WRONG ALL ALONG! I DESERVE NO POWER AND RESPECT WHICH I GAINED, FOR I AM A PIECE OF SHIT" revelation that some of the redeemable villains get, he squirms away in fear and motions to his butt buddy Sugai to kill Haruka and Haruto as his final temper tantrum. Prison is too good of a fate for this guy.

Is there any chance of those games coming to PC?

I really don't want to get a PS4 for two exlcusives.

>>14772067

I wouldn't hold my breath. They mentioned there being a "chance" of porting 3, 4 and 5 to the PS quadruple if there was enough demand for it, but nothing about a PC port unfortunately.

>>14771615

I still got a shit ton of mileage out of MGSV, because the core gameplay is fantastic and the horsing around makes it a game perfect to boot up if you don't really feel like playing anything plus autistic shit like waifu collecting (made worse when I found the glitch for infinite waifu farming) and the 80s music playlist but at some point, the whole thing came crashing down, the experience became hollow, the constant weapon upgrades as means to make you buy that second FOB, the huge disparity in difficulty between the main game and the FOB missions etc. After a long hiatus, I remember booting up the game because of a event to get new uniforms and I found that I couldn't stomach the game anymore. Got the uniform, ran around a bit and uninstalled the game.

>>14772061

I admit my perception of him is very closely tied to the events of Ch12, for me Tsuneo is karma biting Kurusu in the ass. RIZAP is the real villain, that fiendish yet affordable 12 session plan will turn anyone into a human tank.

But don't get me wrong, those dirtbags at the end definitely top the list of asses needing a shoe colonoscopy.

>>14773551

>for me Tsuneo is karma biting Kurusu in the ass

In a way, yes.

>RIZAP is the real villain, that fiendish yet affordable 12 session plan will turn anyone into a human tank.

Even Nintendo marketing executives can make themselves think that they can take the Japanese underworld by storm due to their training methods, as is seen with Tsuneo. They clearly must be stopped ASAP

>no bowling

>no pocket circuit

>no pool

>darts is in but extremely easy

>no gambling with hobos

Does that about cover what's missing?

oh and the overall tone is somber as fuck even during side stories.

It's like someone who hates Yakuza made this game. Kiwami 2 better have all of that stuff back in it as well as fun side stories.

>>14775346

>no coliseum.

>whole upper portion of the map missing.

>>14775346

>No crane games

>No photo booths where you could take pictures of your favorite hostess

>No hot spring mini game like Y5

>>14775353

>The overall tone is somber as fuck even during side stories

Some of them were bittersweet to downright depressing like that idol side mission. Not only that, 6 seems to more grisly in comparison to the other installments, but kinda weird they suddenly backed out on doing a brutal finale. I actually believed that Kiyomi died, and was pretty disappointed that was proven false because that would of not only give the last couple of moments of the game a couple of more gut punches, it'll also give more incentive on beating Sugai and Iwai, who were proven to be dishonorable scumbags.

>>14775346

I can't say I miss any of those besides bowling but it's still odd they couldn't put the token filler mini-games. Fishing is kinda gone, replaced with the rail shooter.

Also, they took out the booze advertisements, bartenders no longer talk about the drinks they serve.

>>14775353

Noticed that as well. Might ring even harder if 0 and Kiwami are fresh in your memory since those games had all sorts of wacky side stories. I think they might be running out of ideas and the side stories will feel even less when about a third of them are tied to mini-games. A lot seem tied with modern day tech too - scams done by cellphone (paycards and the booty call honeytrap), A.I.s, the drone, the e-celeb wannabe, introduction to live chat and the guy in the bar who becomes a tech junkie.

There were still some funny ones - the first Ono Michio one, the e-celeb, the booty call, the hostess that signed with a production company and the guy at New Gaudi talking about a teacher come to mind.

I guess Kiryu is just too tired for everyone's shit. Another reason why we need the Akiyama-Saejima game, they lend themselves really well to odd situations.

>>14775424

>spoiler

I was inclined to believe it but had my doubts since, after all, we don't see it. Also, would be kinda odd for their daughter to be raised alone by Nagumo. But yeah, already ranted about it, this kinda stuff will cheapen a story if overused. That said, this entry is pretty damn bloody.

>>14775550

What about it? Quick googlan tells me 75-76. I know 'Be My Baby' is still in.

http://dswiipspwikips3.jp/yakuza-kiwami2/substories/

Random embed. Just what I'm listening to atm.

>>14775575

There are substories that are missing. Thankfully, just like the iconic substories of 1 which were even voiced and given cutscenes in Kiwami, as far as I know none of the iconic substories of 2 will be missing either… I hope.

Also, some minigames aren't coming back, but there'll be some new ones. Like shitting… yeah…

>>14777791

Don't worry about losing shares to Electronics King because you can make them up really easy at that point. Losing shares to the Media King is a complete pain in the ass though, so I recommend you actually beat him at his minigame challenge make sure to go to the disco a lot to practice

>>14777835

Yeah, I just ended up getting past that event and getting the shares back, but it's the way it's framed that pisses me off.

>Whole substory about beating a girl at her high score, last objective being 3 million

>You now own the joint

>The king jackass challenges you on your own damn turf, unskippable cutscenes and all, and with an objective vastly more difficult than the endgame of a substory

>When leisure king's karaoke was easy as sin

Whatever, it's in the past. My plan is to beat Y2, get close to 100% in Y0, watch the cutscenes of 3-5 since the PS4 doesn't have retrocompatibility, then get 6. I hear it's a disappointment, so at what price would you recommend I get it ?

>Playing Yakuza 3

>Haruka still holds your hand even though she's 12 years old now

This just gave me a giddy feeling for some reason.

>>14777791

I honestly resign myself to the worse in that part. I've broken that score once in a random play but never again. For me Leisure and Pleasure are the easiest, Gambling is just like the name sake, Media is pretty damn hard and Electronics is the hardest.

>>14777835

>Losing shares to the Media King is a complete pain in the ass though, so I recommend you actually beat him at his minigame challenge

That asshole just had to go with the shittiest song. I'd rail him sideways if it were 'Koi no Disco Queen'. Just sayin'.

Speaking of which, dance battles have a unpleasant amount of randomness to them, the opponent's score varies by a huge margin.

Disco was actually my Achilles' heel for the longest time. So much so that in my first run, I beat Amon on Premium. But you're definitely right in that practice makes perfect.

>>14780143

Isnt that minigame a good way to make money though?

>>14775575

I actually got pretty hooked on billiards and the old dart system. Not a great way to make money, but it's a time sink and well implemented. I just wish pool and darts were part of the online minigames. It's a shame you can't play them against real people. Yakuza pool is probably the best pool in a video game I've ever seen honestly.

>>14782345

>Isnt that minigame a good way to make money though?

No. The minigame sometimes just refuses to let you win and you'll make much more money beating on Mr. Shakedowns for much less time and money investment.

>>14775129

>Btw, anyone knows who voices Amon?

I think Amon always changes voice actors. That's why he sounds like a kid just entering puberty in 3 and 4, while in 2 he sounds completely deranged for example, I refuse to believe that it's all the same guy.

>>14716828

Only played 1,2 (on emulator) and Zero. In my opinion, you definitely need to start with the first game first. Don't play Yakuza 0 until after you have at least played the first game. The only games I can't play is 3 because my CD drive on my PS3 is broken and it's the only game that you can't buy a digital copy. I was thinking about watching an LP so I can then play 4&5 but I often wonder if 3 is essential to the overall story.

>>14745612

>>14745598

I should have read the thread regardign my question about a potental 3 port.

>>14784382

>establishment of Kiryu running and living in a orphanage in Okinawa

As an adult? Because him groing up in the Sunshine Orphanage was a core plot point of the first two games regarding his relationship to Shintaro Kazama.

>>14769483

>the Colosseum in kiwami is awesome

The colosseum was in the orginal. Does Kiwami sigificantly improve it?

>>14784382

>the writers pussying out of making Kaoru Kiryu's waifu

Oh come on, playing Y2 and Kaoru's cool in my book.

>>14784162

I noticed that in 0, in an alley leading to the Odyssey hideout in Sotenbori, there was a tiny lot the camera can barely see that's full of cats. Odd.

>>14784774

>You mean Mine staying as interim chairman while Daigo was busy becoming the hospital meme legend?

Nah, I meant if Mine kept being Daigo's cockslave. He's so crazy loyal and so loaded that there would be no money problems in 4 and there'd be no internal power struggles in 5 and 6.

>Finished 0's chapter 14

>Ineveraskedforthis.png

>Think back on it a bit

>Oda gave away Tachibana's hideout

Hold the fucking phone

He wants to cover his tracks so his boss never finds out he betrayed him, and then just straight betrays the guy in the worst way he could?

I'm pretty sure that's a straight plot hole, which surprises me of Yakuza.

>>14784847

>Dunno how Commissioner Jingu and Detective Cancer would deal with him but I think the later could cook something up, guy was a devious cunt.

Yeah, I bet rubber bullets would be involved. Remember, don't underestimate the police! Oh wait, wrong extremely retarded plot point I'm thinking of here.

>I think the Someya-Nintendo uncle gank might be too much for Mine.

Please, as Kiryu said, Nintendo Uncle is a literal nothingburger. Guy got tatted up and went on a 1 month RIZAP exercise plan and he thought that was enough to take the Japanese underground by storm. He knew he couldn't do shit if exactly Daigo, Majima and Saejima were out of the picture because they'd each destroy his shitty plan singlehandedly.

>>14784847

Nah, they specifically say Oda gave away the place where Tachibana gets his dialysis, which is textbook forcing the plot to happen while making zero fucking sense character wise.

But yes, the contrast between the direly serious story and the side content is definitely what makes Yakuza great, though it's not nearly as pronounced in 1 and 2 than in 0.

>>14784899

2 still has my favorite substory by far, which is Fake Kiryu and Shinji

>>14784944

How do you access that one ? I'll look for it.

>>14784878

>nothingburger

He'd steal Mine's Daigo dakimakura. Cold-blooded.

>>14784899

Admittedly, I don't remember much of the details in Zero. I guess my head is still filing all the 6 stuff in the proper drawers. I'd say the twist makes sense but I'm biased and always thought Oda was cunt, only supplanted by the suspiciously member of the tribe-looking manlet running the Dojima family.

>>14784987

IIRC you run into them in the Champion District.

>>14784987

Don't remember which chapter you can get it for the first time, but it happens in Champion District near Shellac.

>>14785040

That's the thing, Oda says he sold off Makoto because he made his goal in life to never betray Tachibana - so once he understands he sent his sister to hell, he chooses to cover it up rather than face his boss. He's definitely a piece of shit, but his core motivation was to stay in Tachibana's good graces. Him selling off his most precious hideout is just a straight up contradiction and plot hole.

>>14785040

>>14785042

Alright, I'll keep an eye out. Cheers.

So what is everyone's favorite game at this point in the series? i loved my first playthrough of 1, im just strating 0 now, my friend told me to start 0 at the point where the finale chapter starts, and pick it up after finishing 0, and it will make the entire experience great. so thats what im doing, i 100%'d everything else i cloud do though, Majima was a nightmare too. 0 is awesome though, i love the money premise, and the cash that always flies everywhere, super cool.

>>14784451

>Series producer believes Kiryu is a virgin

That has to be a joke. Unless in official cannon Kiryu never scores on his dating mini-games.

>>14785211

Should i wait for Kiwami 2 then if like Majima then? i love Majima hes so cool, i just dont want to wait till Kiwami 2 to play Yakuza 2. I also heard that 3 is the worst because they censored alot and pull alot of content out, so its lackluster.

>>14785316

Kiwami 2 changes a sizable amount of things for the worst. I recommend playing 2, it's still a pretty good game in its own right.

>>14785058

Either Ishin or 0 for me, but probably 0 if I had to choose between them. I don't know how I'd rank the rest of the series but I will say that I like 6 more than most people seem to.

>>14785040

>embed

That fight was a really nice surprise for me. Between the way he barely makes any noise when you hit him, his animations, the music and the general atmosphere of the fight there isn't really any other boss like him in the series. I've seen people complain about none of the bosses past 2 feeling physically imposing enough to stand up to Kiryu, and while I agree with that to an extent I think that he's an exception. It feels like Kiryu wouldn't have been able to beat him if he was in his prime.

>>14785316

I've heard that the Majima campaign in Kiwami 2 isn't much to write home about so don't get your hopes up too high for that. It's about 40 minutes long, only has two heat actions (which were both in 0) and two bosses whose movesets are both lifted from standard enemies in Ishin. You also can't upgrade Majima's stats and his moveset is the Mad Dog style from 0, which was already the most limited of his four styles in that game by a pretty considerable margin.

I don't know if its story is really good or something but from what I understand it's best to treat it as a nice bonus rather than a selling point of the game.

>>14783110

>putting Sodachi's head in a microwave

What kind of animal are you? I beat him up with square alone.

>>14784451

Well that personal opinion doesn't mean dick when you have mini games that let you score as kiryu. Also the sidekick lady in 2. What kind of dumbass is this. Tired of these (((producers))) and just look at that twat. He looks like every single soyboy in the west with slightly better hair.

>>14784157

Nothing random about it. Just make sure you angle the cueball correctly and don't use too much force when you take a shot.

>>14785316

The Majima campaign is pretty disappointing. Both of his bosses are faggots with a gun (at least neither of them are Jingu 2.0), with the second one looking like another guy who works at Nintendo, with the added bonus that he's voiced by Dio. The only thing I'm looking forward to regarding his campaign is his reunion with Makoto.

>>14785348

>It feels like Kiryu wouldn't have been able to beat him if he was in his prime.

Yeah, he's crazy. He's 70 years old and he's still got those improbably good CIA nigger-tier assassination skills that Joji displays in 3 and Kiryu himself says that he doubts he would've beat Joji if he weren't such an old fart already. Not to mention that fighting Hirose feels more like fighting a slasher movie villain than anything else, especially considering the whole atmosphere and especially the section where he fills the whole area with smoke and in the end just shows up outta nowhere.

I am playing through Yakuza 0 right now, and chapter 3's opening animations is fucking god tier, ive never seen so much authentic movement in these animations holy shit, im so glad i started 0.

>>14784157

>random

I have to agree with >>14786458 the pool game is a very authentic simulation of playing real pool.

>>14785211

>Kiryu never bones the hostesses

Yes, but he clearly can bone the hostess in game. Which is why I said:

>Unless in official cannon he never wins the mini-games

>>14772241

http://archive.is/qwAoH

Time to bump this thread.

Rank your favorite to least favorite RECEIVE YOU aka Majima's theme from the mainline games. Please also remember that Kiryu's Dragon style theme from 0 is also a Receive You, so it counts despite not being one of Majima's themes. Mine is:

The Prototype (1,2 and Kiwami 2) > And Stab You (3) > Tech Trance (0) > And Slash You (5) > The Subtype (0) > And Bite You (4) > The Madtype (Kiwami)

Also, vid related is the Kiwami version that's Japan only.

Why is Majima such a fucking bully to Yuki-chan? She's done nothing but support him.

>>14794810

Tough love

>>14794810

Because it's le ebin joke. They even forget that she's been kidnapped by that sleazy guy from Venus. Ironically, as far as I remember when she gets to max level she has the best stats overall out of all the hostesses, even though story-wise she keeps being the butt of all jokes.

>>14794349

So Y6 has a rural town? Sounds interesting. Too bad I'm only up to 2.

They removed half of the substories from what you're used to and added tumblr missions where you literally beat the same people up for hitting on women and harrassing nigger male jap female couples.

>>14794845

wait, how many of them have been in porn? I bet the answer is like 90% of them.

>>14803352

All of the platinum rank hostesses except Yuki are based on JAV whores.

>Sidequest in Y2 says I killed Lau Ka Long

What? I remember the boss battle but not him dying.

>>14805151

Well he's apparently fucking dead when 6 comes around.

>>14804973

6's hostesses are fugly and they gutted the entire system. I dont even think you can go out on dates with them in 6.

>>14805354

He gets killed by Kazama's CIA nigger brother Joji in 3 after Kiryu gives him a beatdown. Brush up on your Yakuza lore you queers.

>>14805359

You can, but you can only go to karaoke or darts.

>Just finished Yakuza 3

>Start up Premium Adventure

>Rikiya is just casually standing around, alive

What the fuck?

>>14806110

The only time the new system made sense, which I could only test out on Sora and Hikaru because they were the last two hostesses I had to go through, is that the answer to "Is there someone you like?" changes after you get to high enough affection with the girl. Otherwise the conversations can go all over the fucking place, I hope they make it better in Kiwami 2 and the later games. There were some funny conversations I enjoyed though, like Kiryu pretending to be a gorilla or Sora thinking that Majima is a cosplayer

Welp, there was a 30% sale on all vidya so I got Yakuza 6.

I have only played 0, 1 and 2 so far (no kiwami), do you nigs recommend to play other games in the series before 6 ?

>>14809963

>Should I skip 3 entire plot important games

No, you should play them all.

>>14809963

6 is the end of the story. There's no point playing it unless you've played the other games. It's also the weakest in terms of gameplay.

>>14809963

Where was the sale? Also, was it only Yakuza games?

>>14810285

My local mall in muaaah country. And no, it was literally every vidya. They often pull off stunts like that, and generally mess around with the price of vidya, especially from nintendo, selling them like two-thirds of the price. I have no idea how they get away with it, but they do.

>>14809975

Well, sure, but I remember reading some posts here stating some of the games in the series are self-contained and whatnot. If I had a PS3, or the PS4 was retrocompatible, I wouldn't ask myself that question at all. As it stands I'm curious to know which of the three PS3 games are critically important to understanding 6.

In any case I'm not unwrapping 6 until I'm done with 0 and 2 at the very least.

>>14811911

Kiwami 2 is gonna be fine, reactionfag.

>>14812045

That's not his point. Regardless of how good/bad Kiwami 2 is it's not an acceptable substitute for Yakuza 2 because of the cut content, significantly worse soundtrack which is completely at odds with the tone of certain scenes and much lower difficulty.

>>14812146

Replacement for 2, no, but it's still gonna be fine.

It'll be better than 6 at least.

>>14812139

At the very least I plan on watching all the cutscenes from 3-5. The stories are definitely good and I don't want to miss on them entirely.

>Saejima

Didn't that guy appear in Majima's backstory in 0? The one that performed a hit with multiple six-shooters?

>>14812176

>Didn't that guy appear in Majima's backstory in 0? The one that performed a hit with multiple six-shooters?

Yup, that's Taiga "18 Rubber Bullets" Saejima

>>14812161

>It'll be better than 6 at least.

I honestly doubt it. I have to wonder how much of the talk of it being better than 6 is true when I watch gameplay videos and see people interrupting bosses' combos with heat actions that clearly aren't designed with the Dragon Engine's combat in mind, all the recycled boss movesets or janky ass PS2 animations on such high quality character models. The carabet club minigame doesn't seem to be improved over 0's in any meaningful way and none of the long battles seem to take any advantage of. Everything about it seems so lazy, like they poured all their effort into a handful of the fancier dynamic intros. The return of the arena is about the only part of it that I know I'll enjoy.

On a personal note, the soundtracks of this series are a big part of why I enjoy them so much, and 6's is among my favourites in the whole series whereas Kiwami 2's is the only one which has any songs that I find genuinely unpleasant to listen to. The credits song and the tune that plays when Kiryu gets stabbed absolutely butcher their respective scenes. A Scattered Moment also sounds bizarrely cheery.

>>14812229

>none of the long battles seem to take any advantage of Kiryu's more acrobatic movement in the Dragon Engine, unlike 6's.

is what I meant to say, polite sage.

>>14812181

He left the noodle hut so fast he didn't even notice that none of the people he shot were even bleeding.

>>14812229

>The credits song and the tune that plays when Kiryu gets stabbed absolutely butcher their respective scenes.

I just got to that scene in the original Y2 and it was just as fucking ridiculous to have a jazz piece in that moment, so don't pin this on Kiwami 2, it's an original sin.

>>14812229

I kind of agree about the OST, I thought Kiwami was the low point for me because every other remix sounded way worse than the original except for The End of Dogma because they didn't change it too much compared to the original and the low health part of Pray Me because I though the weird distorted voice in the original ruined that part for me. I did like the remix to Ogre Has Returned though, sounded much better than in 3. Kiwami 2 seems to be the same, but still Bad Fortune Flower sounds way flatter, I think the best way to describe it is buttrock. It's not nearly as intense as the original, even the guitar sounds really flat. Also the theme that replaces Hit&Kill isn't that bad, but then you find out that it also replaces Hayashi's theme and again it's the same reason why it's as bad as Bad Fortune Flower's remix, it's boring, mid-paced buttrock, not nearly as fast and as intense as the originals. Now the biggest musical sin in Kiwami 2 for me personally is the replacement for North Menace which has to be the flattest, slowest, most boring musical piece of shit in the entire game, especially how much you have to fucking hear it considering the story and when North Menace plays. It's so fucking boring I'd prescribe it to insomniacs, it'd make them go to sleep right away.

>>14812272

What the fuck is there to defend?

You've got a scene of Kiryu deeply regretting something he's done, and then getting gutted, and you've got this cheerful jazz song. I don't care how good it is, it doesn't belong anywhere near that scene.

>>14812243

What are you talking about? He killed them all with perfectly executed headshots to the back of the head

:^)

>>14812157

His shtick goes the other around and he puts people through a ringer before giving the loan. He still wants people to pay him back (well, his secretary at least) but in a act of such sheer blasphemy it would make every jew spontaneously combust, the interest rate is zero.

>>14812176

Yeah, and the shit that happened to Saejima was what got Majima in the hole. IIRC Saejima and his backstory are only properly introduced in 4.

>>14812229

>Kiwami 2 OST

Oddly enough there hasn't been a official release of it (nor HGG's). Even if it's mostly crap, Amon's theme (embed related) is great and I want a quality recording of it.

Speaking of Amon and HGG, I like how that game uses 3 of his themes for the several phases of the fight.

>>14812254

You leave Crazy Ken alone!

Also, the scene hasn't been botched by just a change of music. Kiwami 2 adds a stabbing sound effect which completely kills the surprise that scene brings.

>>14812274

Guess I'm in the minority that prefers Kiwami's OST to the original. I liked most of the remixes, the melody in some felt a bit more fine-tuned, Jingu's theme is fantastic even if he's possibly the biggest cunt in the series and a lot of the new themes are pretty cool like 'Amusing Octagon', 'Lunatic Warrior' (Amon) and ' Get Over It' which is used a lot during most story battles.

>>14812319

>guns

>not brutalizing everyone with Tiger Puppetry, Essence of Bell Ringing, a fuckin' lamp post and Essence of Clothesline

Saejima was my favorite in 5, all that shit never got old. Bring him back, you assholes!

>>14812368

>Jingu's theme

Fuck, I forgot about that one and you're right, it's really good, fits both the overall atmosphere and the asshole himself.

>>14812368

>Spoiler

Oh, right, I was pretty sure he just got some kind of secret message passed on, so it was a real surprise. I completely understand that sound ruining the scene.

>>14812254

If you feel that way that's fine. But even if the original version seems silly, I'd argue that Kiwami 2 is still at fault for replacing it with something just as or arguably more silly rather than improving on what was there. I also forgot to mention the stab sound effect thing that the other anon brought up so apologies for that, that's my biggest issue with Kiwami 2's version of that scene.

>>14812274

I didn't mind Kiwami 1's OST as much as most people seemed to but I did dislike the more 'modern' (for lack of a better word) direction they went in with some of the remixes, Funk Goes On in particular. I'd have liked them to just do what they did with The End of the Dogma and Intelligence For Violence with every song, where it's basically the same thing but slightly faster and with punchier percussion.

Agree with everything you've said about Kiwami 2's, though. Bad Fortune Flower's remix just doesn't sound anywhere near as threatening as it should. The lack of Evil Itself is probably the most disappointing part for me, though.

>>14812368

Yeah, it's not all bad. I like Amon's theme too. Extremely Huge is pretty decent as well.

>>14812254

I thought the problem with that scene wasnt the music change but the actual stab sound effect.

>>14812561

>If you feel that way that's fine.

I mean, for some reason you guys seem attached to that song and there must be a reason for it. But when that cutscene played, my reaction was squarely in the "what the fuck were they thinking, this is inappropriate" camp. I don't get it, but I do absolutely agree there shouldn't be any stab sound effect

>>14812561

>Bad Fortune Flower's remix just doesn't sound anywhere near as threatening as it should.

Tell me about it. Yakuza 2 was the first Yakuza game I've played and I vividly remember my first playthrough when Ryuji rolled around with his intense music, huge stature and the fact that he just ate your offense like it was nothing and launcher his own attacks through it I thought to myself "what the fuck, am I fighting the final boss already?" hilarious in hindsight Especially compared to Daigo who is just before him when it comes to boss fights and the only thing he does is a tobi sokuto geri. I consider myself a moveset autist when it comes to Yakuza games and I'm struggling to think of a move Daigo does in 2 that isn't a tobi sokuto geri.

Because I was looking up a Yakuza tune, the recommendations naturally started to get Yakuza-centric and ended up watching some Heat action compilations. Y6 has a lot fewer but what I really just noticed is how it has no neutral vs single opponent Heat actions outside of the burst mode ones; there's no neutral grab, vs downed, vs getting up etc. Also no clue on how to do the chopsticks one and just looked a video for it, there's chopsticks in the oyster shack and Moreno.

Meanwhile, I think 'Saejima' must be Japanese for 'savagery'; I didn't even know that shit at 7:39 was possible and never did the Heat at 2:15 because I'm too much of a pussy to let HP drop to red.

>>14812561

For Y2 boss themes missing in Kiwami 2, I'm mostly miffed with the changed theme for the milf hunter, 'The Grudge'.

Overall, looks like every track I like is a goner besides 'Edge' which is now filled with camel jockey wailing.

>>14812880

>Overall, looks like every track I like is a goner besides 'Edge' which is now filled with camel jockey wailing.

There is a reason for this though. Sega couldn't get the rights to remix the tracks in Yakuza 2 that were composed by Sakamoto. I ain't even bullshitting you. The tracks he composed are: Tracker, No Laughter, Blockhead Boy, North Menace, West Insanity, Slyboots, Evil Itself, Hit&Kill, Beast Itself and Management.

>>14812917

I can scratch that "looks like", all my favorites are gone. But yeah, I heard about that before though didn't have a list and a name. Shame they couldn't reach some sort of understanding, I kinda get the Crazy Ken track but this seems kinda silly.

They gotta add a jukebox to these games someday, give a option to set battle themes and stuff. Heck! They could even make some good shekels out of it. Wouldn't mind getting some good tunes instead of those goddamned CC cards they're foisting for 2-3 merkel shekels a piece (yet judging from some line-ups I see in the online CC, they got some bites).

>>14812880

Wow that's alot of "not" killing people he's doing there. You can count the ones that wouldnt be fatal on a single hand.

>>14813258

>he was just aiming for the fleshy bits.

>implying he didn't use rubber bullets

>>14813356

>Implying they have to be rubber bullets

This is a world where shooting at a guy with a machine gun for six seconds straight lightly bruises him.

>when pocket circuit fighter joins your gang

oh man this game just got alittle better.

>>14813258

is that an entertaining movie?

Just found something pretty funny with the Kabedon substory. Picked "give me your money" (stands out as the wrong choice) for shits and giggles and then in the fight that comes afterwards and Kiryu kabedons the guy, he says that line and the guy will actually give you some money.

Alright SEGA, now we're gonna have a problem.

They put out special "DLC" for majima and other characters to join your gang in clan creator, but there is no option to actually download it, and apparently you can obtain the chracters for free anyway by giving Joe's buddy certain codes. What the fuck did I just pay for? This seems to be a serious problem. Once purchased, nothing downloads, it just says purchased. This seems to be nothing but a way to jew people for 2 dollars. God dammit.