/v/ - Video Games

They made a sequel. It's an epic free-to-play MMORPG called Dragon's Dogma Online :^)

>>14705855

That game is unlikely to get a sequel because of how Crapcom is does business. Unless the mystery game Hideaki Itsuno is working on happens to be a Dragon's Dogma sequel which seems unlikely given how the leaks point it out to be a new Devil May Cry.

There's hope though, Monster Hunter World proved that Crapcom Japan can handle big scope games without shooting themselves on the foot so maybe, one day.

Probably not

Itsuno has been saying he’s making something. Should have been announced last year but he was a no show. Hopefully this is the year we find out if it’s DMC5 or DD2.

>tfw still no sequel

Letdowns hunt in packs, arisen.

Apparently the investment was really high and it sold below expectations. In the industry today selling below 5 million is sepuku.

>>14705855

>Wanting nuCapcom to make a remake

>After seeing the disaster that was DD Online

>>14705879

> Monster Hunter World proved that Crapcom Japan can handle big scope games

So you want:

<Time locked console-exclusive

<That also means game focused for console, not Pc

<Game casualized as fuck to try to appeal to a broader audience

It's best to leave it as it is

>>14705880

if dubs then it is dragons donte

I think it's better if DD never gets a sequel, and I really love the game. It came out in 2012, and while there were shit practices back then, the industry wasn't nearly as bad as it is now. A new DD would likely have a bunch of extra cancer in it that would just fuck the whole experience. Better to die with the legacy of one good game+expansion and a shit MMO, than to be raped to death.

>>14705906

I still have schoolproject.7z. How did he even get access to the game in the first place?

>>14705906

How much did they fucking invest? They noped out and just released the game when it was only like 30% completed so it can't have been that much.

>>14705907

>Time locked console-exclusive

That sucks and it happens more often that not but the games eventually come to PC, you don't need a console unless you absolutely need to play exclusives. Even so, a couple of months is way better than waiting 3 years for a port

>That also means game focused for console, not PC

Not arguing but that has been the rule since the early 2000s even now with the surge of PC ports. Plus one of the only things Capcom has done right since the 7th is to release decent PC ports.

>Game casualized as fuck to try to appeal to a broader audience

Some things are certainty easier in MHW and the early hand holding can be a pain but most of what's "casualized" is Capcom trimming down the fat of the series, do you seriously want to go back to stiff controls, shit camera, expending 1-3 hours of picking flowers until you can actually fight something, heavy amounts of grinding (which the game has in spades in the late game), etc.

>>14705985

>They noped out and just released the game when it was only like 30% completed so it can't have been that much

metal gear solid 5 would like to have a word with you about money invested into unfinished projects

If dubs Itsuno's project is neither DMC or DD

>>14705998

>That close to trips

What does it mean?

>>14705995

I never even played it, but knowing Konami i can only assume they fucked its shit up.

>>14705880

Honestly though, why has he been so tight-lipped about it? Hasn't he been saying he's been working on some 'secret project' for years at this point?

>>14706079

The latest remake they made of it for the PS4 and Xbone left the biggest distaste in my mouth for capcom. They already know that no matter how well it does they won't do shit with the series either way, but they'll remake it every couple of years to strangle more money out of it.

>design game from the ground up for co-op gameplay

>then remove the co-op gameplay

>people eat this shit up for some reason

>>14706189

Too bad Fukushima wasn't there to reel in Cumjimer's retardation, otherwise we could have gotten a decent game.

>>14706189

I'm just pissed that the series was supposedly going to end with MGS2, even though the Patriot question was still left open. Even worse is how MGS4 was made because the fans badgered it to be made, meaning MGS4 was just pulled out of Kojimbo's ass, and it shows.

>huge potential for the Patriot AI being a cool storyhook

>could have been a cool dystopian storyline rivalling Deus Ex's conspiracy thriller, but with amazing stealth gameplay

>instead we get loose ends tied up with NANOMACHINES SON, the game being more cutscene than gameplay and any semblance of sci-fi realism the series had tossed out the window.

MGS4 is not how you tie up the events of MGS2, for fuck's sake.

>>14706388

Oh fuck, what have I done.

>>14706207

>Cumjimer

Made me giggle

>>14706388

You are right, it's going to the best game ever, and it will be called Dragon's Fable, where you can climb that ogre to plant a tree.

>>14706458

Yes, somebody knows.

>>14705906

That's the opposite of what happened.

They rushed DD so they could staple a shitty demo of RE 6.

Which is what sold like shit, DD sold so well it justified a expansion.

>>14705907

>Game casualized as fuck

I laugh at this.

Tri was casualized as fuck, but most people here admit to playing the game first on Tri.

You're the newfags and casuals of 2008 bitching about the casuals of 2018.

I am looking forward to trying MHW with an actual controller or M and KB.

>>14706458

That one game where you literally turn the ground into volcanoes and summon giant tornados. It's an earlier 3D game, but I forget the name.

>>14706491

Sacrifice?

>>14706491

If you want to get out of the Action RPG, Empire Earth has some insane shit as did Age of mythology but EE had more crazy shit more often.

>Even after I bought the game 3 times

Email that to Todd Howard, he might get a boner.

>>14705906

>engine already proven to work and tweaked to work (it's the same engine as DmC as I recall)

>already possess figures about who is likely to buy the game given the sales of the first one

Sequels always cost less, that's why Ubishit did Dog Watch 2 even though the first one didn't get that of a warm reception. Hell, Total Wawa is doing 3 games while the last 2 will/are just more maps and races/models/spells, this first game may have costed 90 millions to make while each of the other two may cost 10 millions, this being 1 million for dev and 9 million for marketing.

>>14706483

>Tri was casualized as fuck, but most people here admit to playing the game first on Tri.

As someone who's been browsing the general for a while, no they don't and Tri came out in 2009 in Japan and 2010 everywhere else. You know what game did come out in 2008 though? MHFU, the game people recommend to start with, thanks to its content and difficulty, along with p3rd if they're feeling generous and don't want you to go in without lube, not Tri or even 3U, I really don't understand your casual claim, Tri even had the casual filter that was pre-lobotomy Barroth.

>>14705991

You mean the stiff controls that work with the monsters movesets making the game satisfying, like two cogs working in unison? Shit camera that hasn't really been an issue since the target cam was added? If you spend 1-3 hours picking up materials instead of rushing through to unlock the farm then I'm sorry anon but you just suck shit. Oh and about grinding, at least the previous games didn't have time limited events that are just as grindy as previous games event quests that didn't run on a fucking timer forcing you to play a quest over the course of a week to get the stuff you need or you miss your chance.

I would honestly prefer a DD2 to a DMC5. DD had so much more potential than any character action game like DMC, Bayo, MGR etc. and it was far off from where it wanted and needed to be.

>A new vocation or two; such as pugilist/wrestler

>More open world, Gransys is kind of linear

>More open first act, repeat playthroughs suffer big time in the early stages

>Even more enemies ripped from Greek mythology as well Celtic, Germanic, Slavic etc.

>Enemies and monsters aren't in set places anymore, outside of instances where it makes sense (female bandit camp, saurians by water etc.)

>Perhaps a more lively world, in the sense of killing an ogre or cyclops means goblins move in when its safe, killing them means wolves pick the scraps, killing them means farmers/miners/explorers set up camp because it is now safe, but then bandits show up and take over

>More towns and villages, make the world bigger and better

There is a lot of work to be done.

>>14706547

>that's why Ubishit did Dog Watch 2 even though the first one didn't get that of a warm reception

Didn't the first Watch Dogs become one of the best selling games in first week sales of all time at one point? That's not exactly a cold reception.

>>14707072

The context was PS4 launch title with no games, GTAV came out a year later, they nailed the timing, they didn't have that advantage for the second one.

>>14705855

<he actually baited on "INDUSTRY WILL DELIVER IF YOU DONT PIRATE GOY" meme

rentcucks never change

>>14707382

>A company promises an overly positive outlook in sales when its a publicly traded company.

DD was a no name unknown title which is why they rushed it and threw the RE6 title on it.

>>14705991

Yeah, the real fat in monster hunter was adding any challenge. That needed to be removed. Monsters should have basically no flinch/stun resist, and you should be massively more mobile than a majority of the monsters to the point of neutering them.

>>14707471

I never stated otherwise

But our fucking post here >>14706477

is wrong, Dragons Dogma did not sell more than RE6 during their original launch.

Stop spreading missinfo

http://archive.is/Fh3u4

>>14707526

>no port of the mmo

The mmo is trash, ruining everything good about DD

>>14707535

>Stop spreading misinfo

<On the site that claimed marketers hated sex in games

I was incorrect, but your energy is spent better refuting actual retarded concepts.

>>14707536

I know, but it's something. It would show that Capcom is at least interested in profiting off of the DD IP, which would mean more games instead of letting a fantastic series rot in limbo.

>>14707539

I don't even know what the in fuck you're talking about anymore.

>>14707526

>Port of the MMO

Surely you mean a western release?

DDO is on all platforms but the Switch

and it's shit just like every MMO

>>14707536

Add devtools and mods. All I want is post-game content. If Skyrim managed to restore it why not these?

>>14707536

There was also the Vita card game that just kind of vaguely used assets and designs from DD, but added nothing to the series. It's so unimpressive that even DD fans don't care to acknowledge it ever existed.

>>14707560

Forgot to mention, they added literally Nosferatu Zodd on DDO. They pretty much used all the cut content, improved mechanics and some reskins on it. I wish this was DD2 without the shitty MMO thing.

>>14705879

If anything, MHW only proves that Capcom can't handle large projects at all. The whole thing is pathetic and rushed, clearly showing that they can't handle ambitious games competently.

>>Even after it sold really well on PC

>selling at quarter price and below and only just touching 1M units over the course of two years

why do you people think this matters?

>>14706189

Could you blame him for tapping Joosten?

>>14707627

The MMO part is really just for the sake of communication

In gameplay it's a pretty standard 1-4 player game outside of raid shit

>>14708173

Not really, they added a ton of jewish shit and made the combat awful

>>14708185

Worst part about the combat is trying to solo bosses as a non-dps vocation

>>14706361

Why must you hurt me Paul

>>14708185

>Capcom claimed to have fixed the rage mechanic in 2.0

>only true if there's a sorcerer in the party

>also, this only applies to season 1 bosses

>season 2 and 3 bosses are just perma enraged with parts you can break to temporarily weaken them (infections and armor)

>not even a sorcerer in the party can ease that pain

I'll be the first to admit high scepter looks like my wet dream when it comes to magic/melee hybrids, but I'm not about to deal with redownloading the whole fucking game at third world internet speeds through a VPN just to get bored with it in a week. Even Sega figured out that the language barrier alone is more than enough to keep out 99% of foreigners. Not that the ban is even doing anything considering that last time I played there were enough gaijin spamming in global chat to make it annoying. The fact that Capcom removed any and all uses for silver tickets two years ago in an attempt to force more people to buy their monopoly rocks doesn't exactly motivate me to redownload, either.

>>14707747

Considering the fact that the game was already a few years old and still managed to sell well as a port says something. It goes to show that people still care and there is a huge potential market for it. Especially when you compare the sales numbers of the console and PC when the sales for the PC is half of what the console did. Again, it sold great despite a few years old and being a port. When you look at it from a (((marketing))) perspective shit like this shouldnt even happen.

>>14706755

All of the monsters in World including OGs have had their movesets expanded by a wide margin, they also have more interaction with the environment and each other, it stands to reason that you as a player should also be more mobile and is not like MHW has weapon arts. You'd be right if we were still playing Freedom Unite

You mean the target cam that was added 7 years and 8 games later and that remains a contentious point in the community because there are still people who think that fighting the camera is part of the experience

Are you trying to defend the drag that is the early hours of pretty much every MH game until 4? Shit that you can't skip even if you're a veteran.

I don't have issue with grinding in general in MH but the heavy amounts of grinding in the early game is one of the reasons the series could never catch up in the west and timed events are another can of worms.

I ain't going to pretend that MHW is perfect but I don't think that the game is a downgrade, if anything it creates a strong foundation for the future of the series.

Nice dubs.

>>14707214

You've gone places

>>14708908

>Still defending nuCrapcom and nuMHW

Here faggot, cheers from the MH general:

https://pastebin.com/2L9aDjPd

https://pastebin.com/fLS9S8RE

>>14708908

>that structure

go back to (((reddit)))

>>14708515

Enrage is just a horrible mechanic, and the reason they added the sorcerer shit is because they needed a use with how quickly and easily they hit damage cap on monsters, they lost a ton of dps due to the damage cap eating half of their spell early on.

>>14708960

>1/10th

soo….this is the power……of steam….

>>14708515

>redownloading the whole fucking game at third world internet speeds through a VPN

I'm pretty sure most people just download the main game from other sources and then let it download updates instead of the whole thing

>fags on /v/ always begging for a franchise from a good one off game.

Get out of here with this bullshit. Modern Capcom is not to be trusted with anything, appreciate DD as it is warts and all because odds are any nnew game will manage to be worse

Don't worry, I'm sure after Bethesda releases Skyrim 2 Capcom will translate it to Japanese again

>started playing the ps4 version because i got it for free and my pc is too shit to play the pc version

>played with character creator

>went to male side

>made giant retard

>hilarious

>checked female creator

>realized i can make qt loli

>made redheaded loli

>make pawn

>made blonde loli

>summon lolis

>found black and brown hair loli

>loli squad

>realized weapons and outfits change

>qt outfit

>can equip varying qt outfits on loli squad

is it so hard for game devs to do this? im already thoroughly enjoying this game and i havnt even started it yet.

>>14706079

>but deep down I knew Capcom isn't going to make a sequel.

>deep down

I see what you did there. Though apparently I'm the only one.

Is the GOG version of the game good? I heard it was not fully updated, or at least at the beginning. And im testing it, so I will pirate it, so i want to know what are the online aspects of the game. I heard that the online of DD is very secundary.

>>14717823

The online is the pawn system, every player gets to make a single AI party member, and other players can hire them

There's also a "raid" boss that has a single massive health pool that's shared across all instances of the game and gets bigger with every successive iteration, the offline version is just a somewhat beefy regular boss

I have played this fucking game so many times I can tell you every single line of dialog and recreate sound effects like a miner bird

>>14705855

you do realize they just want to milk the first game dry, right?

>>14723573

This is why replayability doesn't matter for most games

>>14723573

Exactly my issue, man. I played the game and finished it before going to BBI. Now I want to replay it on PC, but I just can't get myself to bite through that first chunk of the game and don't really feel like doing some level 1 meme run through BBI on my first try.

Some day I'll just say fuck it and burn through it. Maybe.

>>14723830

I've even done a little of BBI but stopped because everything hits way harder, which makes my problem with the game even worse. I've done the first chunk of the base game too many times and now done BBI's early stuff.

>>14723999

don't start with mage. It's basically a support character. If you want to do the BA magic just chang your vocation to sorcerer once you get to gran soren. Also have fun :3

>>14724056

>BA magic

Whats that?

>>14722924

Games are never finished anon, only abandoned

>>14723830

It's worth it, BBI is easily one of if not the best parts of the game

>>14724244

>catch so many fish that your skirt starts getting pulled down from the weight of them

I too wish to someday be able to gauge how successful I am by how naked I've gotten. Neleeta's livin' the dream.

>>14724425

The problem I have with BBI is I don't know when to go there. End game character, post-Grigori, NG+? Whenever I go I'm still getting spanked by everything.

>>14725142

Endgame or NG+

I went there the first time as a warrior fresh out of the everfall and did more or less fine with some challenging roadblocks

It's understandable, the game is incredibly easy outside of it, you just need to retrieve proficiency

>>14722883

>Capcom actually made an ENGINE the absolute madmen. And remember that they had no experience with this kind of game.

Dragon's Dogma is running on MT Framework, which is an engine they already had for DMC4. They mainly had to update the engine to so animations were compatible with different sized models and body builds.

>>14725142

Take on some endgame shit and get some good gear first, then breaking into BBI won't be as bad. I think I would normally go in there at level 60+. It's meant to be way harder than anything in the main game so you're probably going to get your shit pushed in a little at times no matter when you go in.

>>14724404

>gizmodo articles are real when it suits me

I need to finish this game, but that update broke my mods, and trying to remember which ones I used is a bit of a hassle. I hope the save is actually still compatible, though.

>>14728279

I do wish someone could add ddo's extra character creation options into dd though. It is so much easier to make a surprisingly passing trap character in ddo

>>14728279

>f2p mmo/skinner box

>you can pay money for in-game benefits

<b-but its not p2w…!

Its obvious DDO is just there to squat on the spot where a proper DD sequel should be. Its springtime for hitler but for a game the dirty old Capcom execs don't want, because its the brainchild of a creator who they think has too much freedom to be allowed to succeed without their approval. DD was a sleeper hit released in the middle of a Capcom slump that began around the time when they started to outsource actually making the games to western studios, resulting in Donte and that abominable Lost Planet prequel and slowly got worse culminating in RE7, MVC3, SFV and the surrounding fiascos. MHW seems to have reversed their fate, however, since its turned out to be a big hit in terms of sales. Its a wait to see if that translates into a DD sequel or, god forbid, a MML sequel.

>>14728728

sorry wrong thread hahaha

>>14730017

It plays exactly like skyrim

>go outside of the village

>get one shotted by giant

>kills some wolves

>upgrade your shit

>go whack giant to death

>find stronger giant

>repeat

>all quests are fetch quests and kill 10 goblins quests

>no roleplaying period, only stat grinding

>>14732618

>>14732658

>you kill dragon by whacking his leg

>you kill dragon by whacking gis leg

Wow so different much individual

>>14732806

>Saying shit this stupid

>AND using memes so ancient and shit even redditors are beyond them

You don't have to go home but you have to get the fuck up outta here

>>14732806

>wow so le meme much meme XD

Is >>>/cuckchan/ still down?

>>14736104

I remember that there is a mod which speeds up how long exequy takes. Very useful if you can find it and install it.

>>14736163

I managed to get lots of high-profile kills with a standard install of the game. Besides, getting yourself safe and in a good enough position to be able to hold the spell that long is where the only skill comes into it. I suppose a 10-20% speed buff wouldn't exactly break it, though. Just cut down on the amount of items you'd need to consume.

>>14728304

>>14728669

>waaa you have better gear cuz you paid

>its all a skinnerbox with lootboxes

Every time theres a new american faggot around, we have to endure their nervous breakdown (broadcasted server wide) once they realize how punishing the grind is. Suddenly they lash at everyone with better gear under the mirage its paid koot.

You are just the worst players imaginable, you have neither the stamina or will to get into serious crafting. DD for you is the side activity to posting in the general, not the other way around. It might as well be a facebook game. Pathetic wannabes roleplaying as leet kids.

>>14707536

Tell me about the MMO. What's different? What's it about?

>>14736367

>What's different?

There's a final fantasy as shit hub city where all the people are, you can take you and three other people or pawns out into the world to go do shit, the world is a bit more segmented and locked off, everything is more quest based and the quests themselves are also chopped up into smaller pieces

There are more vocations, and some of them are really cool, but some of the originals were cut up to make them more specialized for the multiplayer environment, so instead of strider or assassin, you have a ranger class that can only use bows and whatever arrow types there are, and the seeker that only uses daggers and has a grappling hook thing

The enemies are also tanky as shit a lot of the time for the same reason, but I never encountered any serious roadblocks playing solo, even playing a non-DPS vocation, stuff like bosses just take a long ass time

>What's it about?

People who speak japanese do things in japanese, and there are dragons and arisens and ancient magic bullshit

Anything beyond that and you'd have to learn to read moon because the fan translation only covers the basic necessities

>>14736444

>Doing Bitterblack as a warrior

There's your problem

>>14736563

I did it and can confirm he sucks

That fucking giant is still a pain in the ass though

>>14735162

warrior is fine for most of the main game. frankly i always unlock it because Clout and Bastion are such fantastic augments for early in the game. It only gets rough in BBI where there's lots of flying enemies or shit like wraiths where you're hoping the pawns you brought along can waste them.

>>14736444

the only way you're going to do sufficient damage to one of those retards as a warrior is a) having a GDF tier 3 weapon and stacking all your +str augments (which you should be doing anyways as warrior) or b) landing arcs of obliteration (unlikely since CGCs chimp out non stop) or c) do it the welfare way and spam exodus slash for iframes and critting with Iraklis

>>14736760

I misread your post, you're right on those CGC strats

>>14736814

please disregard

>>14705879

All Monster Hunter World proved is that Capcom is completely willing to kill everything that makes their franchises good if it'll make it more appealing to foreigners.

>>14736656

You're doing it wrong. Warrior's only purpose is to be a meatshield for the Sorcerers while they simul-cast their biggest, nastiest spells and do all the actual work.

>Start game for the first time.

>Choose fighter as vocation

>Do multiple quests

>Create simple wizard pawn

>Take a ranger pawn too.

>Do the mission to reach the capital

>Reach the Inn

>Being around level 11-12

For the moment, all looks fine. I tried before the mission of the well in the starting town, but the lizard man were too much numerous. Now, I dont know how much long is the game, and im not sure if i should take another vocation (Maybe I take warrior or try a ranged one like ranger or assasin, im not sure). Any guide or advise would be welcome.

>>14743499

You can totally switch your starting vocation to something else, say fighter to sorcerer and be completely fine. Try to avoid too much switching around though unless its past 100 as that is the softcap for stat gain I believe.

Don't worry too much about min/maxing and optimum builds and all of that. Play around and have fun and if you're using a legit copy, you always have other players pawns to carry you through the game if need be.

>>14743499

Don't worry too much about stats. For the most part, if you're playing a class you enjoy you'll get stats that make that class better. The two main exceptions are Mage, which gets mostly a magic defense stat gain, and Magick Knight. I don't remember why or how MK's stat growth is fucked, but I remember it being widely accepted that if you want to play MK you should spend a majority of levels as either Assassin or Sorceror depending on whether you want to deal physical or magical damage as an MK.

>>14743499

Also keep in mind that there is a mod that changes stat growth but I worry it makes things too easy/OP etc.

>>14743543

translate that image right now fucker

>>14743543

I've seen that image dozens of times but this is the first time I actually realized the Arisen's Bond ring is on Selene.

>>14743499

When you advance story Quests, it makes a lot of side-quests unavailable. This is very annoying and something you should look out for, since the game doesn't actually tell you when it does this.

>>14743639

I hope this doesn't double post. Site seems to have eaten my translation. Anyway, my Japanese is rusty, so take this with a mountain of salt.

Mercedes in Arisen's thoughts: "I must be quite the pathetic sight like this, right? I knew I was weak…I knew it…!"

Arisen in Arisen's thoughts: "I'll give you this, so stop crying."

Arisen in reality: "Strange…I've made a mistake…This is not what I expected…"

Selene: "Next…"

>>14744573

That fat faggot merchant guy.

>>14744573

Yes to both questions

>>14744573

I'm pretty sure almost all NPC are romanceable in the game, from the underage daughter of Fournival to Fournival himself. In fact, I'm pretty sure you can literally count with your fingers the number of NPCs that cannot be love interest.

Anyone have any experience with the "World Difficulty by Lefein" mod? It sounds promising, but it's fucking xboxhueg compared to everything else for DD at 5 GB

>>14744651

Yeah, it makes the game more challenging. The grimgoblins were near unkillable and had to be thrown off a cliff last time I tried it, but it's probably fixed now. Since it increases enemy defenses, light attacks of all kinds are going to be useless unless they target some vulnerability. It doesn't improve gameplay that much, but at least you can't oneshot cyclops with a lightning bolt now, so slow/poison spells are actually useful. By the middle of the game I still killed cyclops in a couple of seconds as an assassin with the stabby climbing skill

>>14744724

oh, and arcane archer is still a walk in the park

>>14744573

Only 4 NPC can not be romance; the duke, the cult leader and the two NPCs on BBI

>>14744573

I wish the love interest shit worked differently. I got Valmiro because I helped him on some quest, despite giving my ring to Aelinore.

>>14744737

What about any of the merchants?

>>14744573

You can romance the fucking court jester if you treat him right.

>>14744770

Every merchant as far as I'm aware of. Even the NPC you find wandering randomly outside in the field. I think there are literally only 6 characters you cannot romance.

>>14744928

Yes, that and try to do any escort quest involving her. Escort quest are taken form the billboards on the inns. They are pretty much dates, but make sure to be strong enough to protect the NPC or else they can get killed. I don't remember well right now, but I think they come back to life after a time. Although there are ways to revive people in the game. In fact, two of the possible male romance options requires you to resuscitate them

Also extremelly important. The romance system of this game is kind of fucked up, and at a certain point in the game chooses as you love interest the last npc with the highest affection you have spoken to. Try to avoid reaching to much affinity with characters. This can be kind of hard as doing certain quest raises it pretty fast. Particularly easy to increase are Selene and Aelinore. Do bad things to them to lower it. You will now you are at max affinity with one character when they blush and bells chime when you speak to them.

>>14744573

Mercedes is very hard to romance successfully, because you usually get someone else.

>>14745468

Mercedes a shit anyway.

>>14745468

The bigger issue is that she fucks off at the end of her romance stuff, and unlike Aelinore, the last bit is not right before the cut off point.

>>14745900

Even the bleating goat is better than her.

>>14745900

>Madeleine

That's a good joke, anon.

>>14743512

Still up and recently they added the 3rd new class and are having a Berserk Cross-Over Event. In all honesty, it's not bad at all and is much better than the dumpster fire that was 1.0. The game has a few things in it that in all honesty are absolute essentials for the proper sequel and is a fun little time sink for anyone looking for an action game or MMO to play.

By that same token, anyone not looking to play an MMO should avoid it entirely or be cautious of it. The only thing in the game that really keeps it fun is the combat, classes and how interesting the content can get on top of how they really cut down on the grind aspect to the point that you need not spend hours upon hours grinding just to get to the fun parts.

>>14728669

In regards to a sequel you never know. Any team making a proper DD2 could yoink the assets from DDO and have an easy time of making something out of it. Environments, skeletons, animations, classes, armour, items, bosses and some NPC designs (including the games own Bloomers witch) are all there ready and waiting to be ported and expanded upon. It's feasible that someone at Capcom might allow a DD2 thanks to MHW's success under the assumption that all of DDO can be used as a jumping off platform for easy development of a title that holds both western appeal and has a rather vocal and passionate fan-base to aide in marketing.

>>14748277

>DDO

>the game of 9000 reskins

>pull existing assets from it

Wow I knew people who played DDO were retarded but that takes the cake.

THEY'RE MASTERWORKS ALL, CAN'T GO WRONG

>>14749017

Because DD is firmly in niche territory. It didn't explode like Demon's Souls/Dark Souls did, as an example. It sold well and did well, but not enough to slap them across the face. Or they're just so adamant to not go all in with DD. Shame as the game, while great, is heavily flawed and a sequel to fix many of those flaws would be well received.

>>14749017

>How no other studio capitalized on Capcom's inactivity and made something like it is beyond me.

Other studios are even worse than capcom and usually devoid of talent or ambition. They aren't looking at genres that aren't being capitalized on or searching for niches to fill, they are looking at trends and flavor of the month streamer bait. It's no joke that E3 is going to be filled with Battle Royale games with MOBA and CCG elements, that use a combination of F2P and lootbox business models.

>>14748979

Whilst a lot of enemies are reskinned or re-used skeletons, this is hardly a problem when executed like in MH where the skeleton and certain animations are re-used but the monster is given enough unique moves or behaviours/gimmicks to set them apart. The game is not like it was in 1.0 where every boss was just a reskinned cyclops with 1 new move.

Lindwurm - New

Behemoth - New

Angules - New

Findam's Dragon - New

White Dragon - New

Elder Dragon - New

Golgorran - New

Giant Turtle Dragon (Cattoblepus I think.) - New

Giant Behemoth with fucking canons mounted on it that drops bombs and summons a tornado. - New

Frost and Fire Machina - New

Diamantes - New ( 2 forms. Both forms can work as separate bosses if human form is expanded on

Zuhl - New (Reskinned Daimon but largely different.)

Armored Zuhl - New (Entirely expanded moveset compared to old Zuhl and still distinct from Daimon.)

Black Knight - New (Has multiple forms in the fight that can all be expanded into 3 separate bosses in their own right.)

Spawn - New (Re-use of Zuhl's skeleton but with new moves and movement animations.)

Mogok - New

War Master - New (Re-skin of Mogok and orcs but very different)

Necromancer Orc - New (Re-skin of War Master but also fights differently.)

Ancestor Orc - New

Findimian Ent - (Reskinned ent which is a reskinned cyclops but the fight has a shit load more AOE to it.)

Manticore - Re-skinned Chimera but fights differently due to using the tail more for melee and not a decoration you cut instantly

Goliath/Damned Golem - (Reskinned golem with some new attacks.)

Medusa - (Reskinned Wight lots new attacks.)

All of the above fight differently enough to be considered their own beasts.

Then basically every enemy from DD: DA is in there (Save the Hydra I think.) With at least 1 elemental alternate variant for each kind. This is a big enough list to populate a fairly large open map and keep encounters interesting and diverse.

As for Environment, there is no debate here. The entirety of 2.0. lots of 3.0 and even some areas in 1.0 are diverse enough that with some expansion can serve as a wholly unique fantasy location for questing within or turned into large dungeons.

>>14749242

>Lindwurm - New

actually the lindwurm isn't new. it's a reskin of the dragon they just sliced the wings off.

>"every fight is different"

no they aren't DDO suffers from terminal fight similarity issues "hit enemy once force first enrage and then it goes invincible for 2 minutes while your pack of 3 retards (god help you if you use pawns) try to pull on it, or if you have an incredibly forced trinity you can not pull and instead shoot it's knee with the correct element" or if it's a spiked enemy "hit spike 90 fucking times so you can actually hurt the enemy because THIS IS A FUN MECHANIC RIGHT"

The enrage mechanic makes all of the fights in the game incredibly similar to the point of it's own downfall. The game is actively horrible because of it.

And before you start that whole lie about "Spikes are totally different" they aren't and you know it

>>14744766

People always complain about this shit but it's easy as fuck to manage if you understand how it works. If an NPC gets a pink glow around them when you talk to them then they're elligible to be kidnapped by Grig at the end. Best way to knock down their affinity is to simply draw your weapon near them, sheathe it, then do it again like five times until you don't get a pink hue anymore. You don't get in trouble with the law, you don't lower them to a point where they don't like you, and you don't have to worry about them being your LI.

>>14735364

Should have ended with someone being called a faggot

>>14749255

>Lindwurm isn't new

It has a new wing mechanic and different breathe attack that hits at long range due to being a projectile. It fights more aggressive too as a result of the new wings and the inability to grab and lack of magick or flying meanis it is less stationary but constantly open to melee when the wings are gone. Also has another element added to its roar when the wings are still up, making the roar more dangerous especially if fighting in or around water. Admittedly the need for a ranged class does make them more infuriating but by the same token so was the Metal Golem or normal Golem whilst playing a Sorc or lacking a specific pawn vocation.

As for the last bit.

>Still implies that fighting an enraged enemy is a pull fest when it is objectively the sub-par option and more dangerous to boot.

>Still thinks enrage lasts longer than 30 seconds or sucks the pacing of a fight by enforcing the player move to defence or climbing and pulling when it actually rewards more offensive play and encourages Ailment use.

>Still thinks you can't use BREAK or deal decent stamina damage to the enemy weak point even when it is not revealed.

>Still thinks pawns are bad when the addition of upgraded AI through updates, Pawn orders, Special Pawn skills and a gambit system is there and now there is not a single bad pawn vocation at all, even the Hunters who were so retarded they missed enemies constantly are now good.

>Still thinks you even need a green and or blue class and that a "T-TRINITY IS FORCED BY ENRAGE" when you can easily destroy enrage with all reds, all blues or even all green parties with different vocations of each.

>Acts like he trounced my list by crying "M-Muh spiked enemy someone once told me of a-aren't different!" When I didn't list a single spiked enemy variant at all as they are objectively reskins with the only difference being where you're expected to attack and others another mechanic to worry about by way of 1 new attack and a block for climbing.

>Didn't list war ready enemies cause they are also re-skins but the approach to them is much different meaning they deserve to be listed and might be harder to work into a single player game.

You have clearly not played since 1.0 and pretending you know anything would be like trying to criticise current FF14 when one has only played the vanilla version of it.

How DID the hydra put that challenge on the board?

>>14749655

This logic is flawed, before 7 RE was still not a very common name, plus it isn't like Capcom only has a singular dev team, AND Itsuno has been saying he apologizes for not having many projects out lately and said he is working on something, which is either DD2, or DMC5

>>14749712

>before 7 RE was still not a very common name

I've never seen someone be this wrong

>>14749855

Not common to normalfags

>>14749872

No, it was a very common name. Lots of normalfags know of the series due to the shit load of games and movies.

>>14749872

it's a pretty mainstream title, anon. It's as common as Mario and Sonic in terms of brand recognition.

>>14749888

IDK, the regular people where i'm from don't really know it very well, If I asked them if they knew what RE was they probably would say they didn't know

>>14750155

The fact that it went from a Cliffhanger to Griffith again made me want to claw my fucking eyes out

>>14748277

>Spellsword class

The madmen finally did it

The kne fucking thing I've wanted since playing DDA as a Magick Knight is a right and proper spellsword class offensive based without casting your turret sigils and flailing your light attack like a sperg hopped up on meth while occasionally going for an elemental parry. I straight up passed on DDO entirely when the Magick Knight class got scrapped entirely for the fucking bland as hell Shield Cleric.

Will this new class appeal to my spellsword fetish /v/

>>14705855

Kind of sucks that your pawn turns into a clone of you at the end, couldn't they have just become human while maintaining their original form?

>>14750348

If you can't tell from the video the new class is extremely offensively oriented and has a load of core-skills and lots of great damage dealing custom skills. The most insane thing is the class has access to 3 different dodges.

One is just the usual press button to dodge.

The other is to use the skill that teleports you through an enemy and can also function as a double jump of sorts.

The next is the crazy ass teleport backwards that is a core skill (Meaning it's always equipped) that once you press it again, you will teleport right back to the enemy even if they're a flier that is now in the air.

There is nothing really that the class can't do as they have both magick, physical, status inflicting skills and ranged attacks, the class seems to be all about constantly maintaining the offensive with no downtime.

>>14722914

>[sales don't] really matter much for… shareholders

Yeah, that sounds about right for our industry.

>>14749492

>i-it's totally different now!

>I swear

<posts footage of the exact same shit happening

Damn you're right it's totally different now! Truly we should all go buy CoG Coins and subscribe to Dragon's Dogma online, the only True and Honest game!

Seriously fucking kill yourself for being such a fanboy of something you buy into a horrible cash grab MMO with no redeeming qualities

>>14752460

I get it, you didn't like the game anon. That's okay, you don't have to like it.

You don't have to lie or pretend you know anything about its current state, especially since you implied you need to subscribe to it when its F2P. This isn't 4chan where you can "Win epic arguments" by just making bad green texts and throwing in a lazy "Kill yourself fucking you shill!" and a stutter post without anything to back it up or anything resembling thought throughout the entire post.

>>14752661

>implying that I said you need to subscribe

>failing miserably to seem like the better person by saying "this isn't like 4chan"

So you really don't have anything do you

>>14752460

>>14753607

>Damn you're right it's totally different now! Truly we should all go buy CoG Coins and subscribe to Dragon's Dogma online

You outright said the game has a subscription literally the post prior whilst insinuating I'm shilling for a F2P Jap Only MMO.

>failing miserably to seem like the better person by saying "this isn't like 4chan"

No, I'm saying you're a 4chan user cause your posts are poor. All of them have been low-effort but if you want a proper response for >>14749255 however then fine, here you go.

>The enrage mechanic makes all of the fights in the game incredibly similar to the point of it's own downfall

It did in 1.0 where the only response to it no matter the enemy was to grab their safe spot and spam pull. Add to that 90% of the monster roster back then was nothing but Cyclops over and over then yes, repetition and staleness are a huge problem and I agree with you that the game suffered from it. Yet that was all the way back in 1.0 (In 2015) and DDO was announced to be updated constantly in seasons for multiple years. It is not a surprise that it can and has changed to address the flaws and complaints of the player base like FF14: A Realm Reborn had done.

2.0 and beyond enrage is different and a decent summary is as follows:

Due to the addition of the BREAK system in 2.0 and significant balance changes to buff stamina damage dealt from attacking (Even un-revealed core attacks now deal decent damage) and due to attacking being the best choice, proccing CC ailments are now possible mid enrage and the fight comes to be about positioning and responding to the now chimping out boss whilst coordinating with your party instead of finding the magic ass pixel to hide on. When an enemy enters enrage it's not 1-2minutes of boredom, but 30 - 40 seconds of an enemy moving to the offensive and you need to understand your skills and what your allies classes and builds are to get through it safely and effectively whilst staying on your own offensive as doing so is the best strategy to end enrage.

Break essentially is a side-bar that fills as you attack the boss in enrage. (Note that attacking also deals stamina damage so the process of building Break also wipes Enrage, the whole system made to encourage a constant up-keep of offence instead of spamming pull.) Once it builds to max it wipes roughly 40% of the enrage bar, makes the enemy take double stamina damage for a moment AND staggers them back, interrupting any attack or action they were taking. The break bar can be filled very fast and reliably on most foes and sometimes you only need to build Break once to wipe an enrage and some classes can build break to the max with one spell or well-timed skill.

Also the addition of Spiked (And War Ready enemies.) serve to counter the sameness of 1.0 despite being largely unapologetic reskins with just a different goal for the party to focus on to take them down. Both of them much like the break system encourage offence and constant action in different ways.

>>14749532

Make them not look like utter trash, and give them the proper inclinations.

It doesn't need a sequel, it has infinite replayability.

I started the game as a Strider, and I reached Great Soren at lvl 10-12, and now i will choose a vocation. I read in guides & here that assassin is really good, but Ranger with its longbow looks really promising. Is that worthy the longbow, with the Ranger skills?

>>14754348

They have different playstyles. Assassin has the least bow skills, but has unique sword and dagger skills. it's good at climbing on monsters and countering small monsters.

Ranger is entirely about the bow, with fewer daggers skills than strider. Longbow is much stronger than shortbow, but which one you pick should be based on how much you enjoyed using the bow as a Strider.

>>14754348

Magic archer > assassin > sorcerer > everything else > warrior

Assassin shits out so much damage with the gouge skill (sword), the enemy might as well be dead as soon as you climb onto their weakpoint, and there are plenty strengths other than that. Cyclops drop dead when you get at their eye, chimeras are basically squirming on the ground all 10 seconds it takes to slaughter them. Actually, don't play assassin if you want some challenge. Choose from fighter, sorcerer or ranger, because they have a weakness (no ranged/cast times/poor melee)

>>14754348

What do you like about Strider? Assassin is similar in that you can melee and still use bows but Ranger is much better for bows.

>>14754723

Liked both the dagger and the bow. Hard to choose….

Here are links to everything one might need:

— World difficulty + some minor mods that are useful to anybody (except shitty nude mod) http://www.moddb.com/mods/world-difficulty-by-lefein/downloads/exp-table-and-merged-mods-grab-bag;

— dinput8.dll hooks https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/96;

— FOV Fix and Complete Pawn Knowledge Cheat Engine script https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/366;

— Total Rebalance, changes level up stats and perks, but you'll need to merge it into another file, so don't bother with it if you don't feel like spending an hour to get the hang of it. Or you could use it instead of the World Difficulty merge. https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/365.

>>14754774

If you liked both, I'd recommend sticking to Strider or going Assassin. The Ranger isn't really oriented towards using the daggers because his bow is so powerful.

>>14754836

game devs seem to hate programming for spears, for some reason.

>>14754837

Always the excuse that spears are boring to animate, or that they can only poke an enemy.

>>14754774

>>14754786

Yeah stick with strider or go Assassin. They both get to keep bows and melee options, Assassins even get swords and shield in addition to bows.

>>14754836

The game desperately needs a sequel. I love polearms in games, even if they are usually more boring and easy mode.

>>14754856

They could always make a class which can use both swords and spears, kind of like assassin can choose between different weapons. Just need to anime a few attacks and skills for spears, maybe a throwing, jump attack and stuff like that. Make it a magic class and you can justify the spear coming back to you.

>>14754871

>magic attack that floats your spear in the middle of an ornate magical circle and charges it up before releasing it like a railgun in the desired direction

HNNNNNNGGGG

>>14754865

>even if they are usually more boring and easy mode

In my experience, vidya spears take more effort than other weapons in order to make them useful.

>>14754871

Magic is probably the best way to go for spears, but the only real candidate for that is MK and that vocation already has three weapons types to choose from. Granted, I've never known anyone to play MK with a staff so they could easily replace it in favour of the spear.

>>14754894

>Spear levitates and spins around like an active shield

>Spear clones and sends dozens of throws at an enemy

>Spear is hurled into a boss and can be used for an easier climb

>Spear can impale trickier enemies to the wall or to larger enemies while you focus on other mobs

Play as the class your pawn is, it makes them not retarded

>>14754964

>Shame the gameplay is so ass

Honestly, after playing Ar Tonelico 3 the gameplay was a breath of fresh air.

>>14754782

Thanks anon. I'm reinstalling this game to give it another shot. I only got 13 hours in before I got kind of bored last time. Does the World Difficulty mod sufficiently add depth to the combat? I'm not a super hardcore RPG player, but I do like deeper combat mechanics.

>>14755134

AI is the same or nearly same. It mostly changes spawns and boosts enemy stats to make it more dangerous, I still was able to kill chimera, golem and the drake on the shore area before doing the Hydra head quest. The only things that might be unkillable is some BBI enemies thrown into several vanilla areas, but you can just walk away from that if you don't feel like hacking them for 10 minutes

>>14755396

Noted, thanks anon

>>14754871

DDO has a spirit lancer vocation, it's like the spellsword but with support focused magic

>>14754856

Obviously no one has ever played Dynasty Warriors then. The series has literally dozens of spear users all with unique animations and rarely a poke between them.

>>14754013

>They encourage constant fighting!

Except they completely kill the flow and would be better served by just making the monster have more HP than being retarded.

They didn't fix anything and you should feel bad for trying to shill this garbage.

Also it does have a sub

>>14756086

>Except they completely kill the flow and would be better served by just making the monster have more HP

Having played the game after they "fixed" the rage mechanic, the only thing that kills the flow is playing a non-dps class solo against bosses that do just have more HP

>>14756128

Except they didn't at all, the enrage mechanic still just serves to bloat kill times in a game where they refuse to make a fight actually interesting. And the pawn AI is still pants on head retarded unless swinging at nothing like all the videos I looked up is "better" than circle strafing a tree as a hunter

>>14754964

Probably a weird thing about self inserts, even though the characters in the more recent Personas and DD is basically a stand in for the player. You also don't exactly break the cycle, since pawn NPCs will recognize you in NG+. The cycle never breaks until the servers are shut down, as long as someone is playing, an Arisen that has beaten the game can show up in another Arisen's NG+ cycle, and pawns have a weird meta view of the game world as they also live beyond it, in the server. Even the dimwitted nature of the pawns that characters observe in game is basically an in game excuse for why pawns do not help you or anyone else in combat unless they are in your party.

Is this worth pirating

>>14756579

It's worth buying.

So, yes, I suppose it's also worth pirating, if you understandably don't want to send any money Capcom's way.

>>14756582

I'll buy it if I dont have to install steam to play it

>>14756592

Well then I suppose you'll have to pirate it unless you want it on console.

>>14756601

Any reason why I shouldnt buy the GoG version?

>>14756618

>Missing two updates dating back to October and December 2017.

Oh

Pirate it is

>>14754964

No wonder my Sorcerer qt keeps jump attacking things.

>>14754964

But I wanted my pawn to be a qt elf waifu, not a swole elf husbando I made my character a swole elf because you never see swole elves

>>14755902

Shit. I don't know if DDO good, but seeing capcom focusing so much on it makes me think DD 2 just won't happen. And still they refuse to release the game outside of Japan.

>>14756618

>>14756628

>Missing two updates dating back to October and December 2017.

Why? Should it already be put in the GOG version already after months? I started the game pirated, but if I wanted to buy it, I would if possible get it on GOG. But why would the game still be non-updated?

>>14757108

Capcom hates making single player games that aren't cheap as fuck or guaranteed money, DD doesn't have the brand awareness

And DDO probably doesn't even make that much money either, so a translation won't be worth the cost

I think you mean Berserk collaboration outfits never ever

>>14756628

they didn't update anything significant, all it did is partially break some mods

my character is a fighter and i've made it to around level 20. i just got to the capital city and learned i can spend 1000xp to change my vocation. what else should i try? i was thinking warrior. should i wait to max out my fighter vocation?

i also wanted to try some magic builds. after changing vocation can i switch back to being a fighter?

>>14757694

There are some skills/augments in the latter part of the fighter vocation that are useful for melee builds. As for switching to magic you're free to do so. There are some hynrid vocations like the Mystic Knight, that combines fighter and sorcerer abilities along with its own unique skills. Once you've unlocked a vocation you can go back to the NPC at any time to switch back to it at no cost.

>>14757694

You can switch whenever you want, and if I remember right you only have to pay the cost once to unlock a vocation

Warrior is crazy but is super niche and can only use 3 skills so it's kind of a pain in the ass, most people go for assassin because it's versatile and very easy to become OP

As for magic, people really like mystic knight, though it's less of a magic/fighting hybrid and more of a bullet hell simulator, real great if you're playing on console and want to fry your hardware

>>14705974

I think he said he was sent a review copy by accident.

>>14757717

>>14757718

can i combine abilities? like can i use sinew and carry more shit but still be a mage? can i use the rushing attack with a double handed weapon as a warrior? if i learn a spell can i go back to being a fighter and still use that spell and mix it with other shit?

i've heard that if you create a fighter, adding very different (like sorcerer) vocation would make your character perform like shit in that vocation. is there a guideline for this? i really dont understand how this happens since you dont even pick which abilities get leveled.

>>14757763

Augments can be used with any class. Most skills are class specific, so only certain skills can be used by multiple classes. Some of the fighter skill are usable by Assassin. I think some of the Strider too. Sadly, Warrior cannot use skills from any other classes, because he is the only class that uses Two-handed weapons, ergo any of the other skills are usable by this class. Mage, Mystic Knight and Sorcerer I think do share some of the basic spells, but any of the other classes can.

This is because skills are tied for the most part to weapons. There exists mods that let you equip any weapon with any class, so you could basically carry an staff and shield and other impossible combinations. Of course, that kinds of break the game.

>i've heard that if you create a fighter, adding very different (like sorcerer) vocation would make your character perform like shit in that vocation.

The real reason is the stats you gain when leveling up are tied with what class are you using at the moment of gaining a new level. So, if you have been using Fighter, your first 10 levels you have gain considerable stats in Strength, Defense and Health, but very poor stats in Magic. That means that if you want to have decent stats, you train classes which raises those stats first. Skills and augment have no effect on character performance. On the contrary, the more augment you have the more you can customize and fine tune your character.

From level 1-10 you have the biggest stat gain.

from 11-99 you still gain a big amount of stats, but a little less.

From 100 onwards you hit the soft cap, and your stat gain is smaller.

So, which classes you play your first one hundred levels define what stats you will gain. If you like Melee, Assassin gives attack, Warrior Health and Fighter Defense. If you like Magic, Sorcerer is the best option, as he has the highest Magic attack gain. Mage gives you more Magic defense. Ranger is the best for Stamina, and Mystic Knight and Magic Archer are a little of jack of all trades, but their gains are quite low, so is recommended play other classes before changing to one of those. Not going the optimal way is not game-breaking, equipment is just, if not more important than character stats, but because of the way damage is calculated in the game, it can be very noticeable when you have a bad stat growth.

>>14757817

>only class that uses Two-handed weapons, ergo any of the other skills are usable by this class

Meant to say unusable, sorry.

>>14757088

If you're still in the same one /v/ made in 1.0 (Daimon Dogs) then yeah, it's relatively dead but I'm still in it and so are a few other people.

If you want to get back in it or for the first time, just apply whenever you can and I'll accept the application for you. With some luck all our time zones will synch up enough.

>>14757830

I actually formed a guild with a breakoff group from reddit but it's been mishandled and traded a lot. The name Neon Knights is a bit nostalgic to me, but I suppose it's time it got disbanded. I'll see about applying right now, unless I've gotta wait before switching.

>>14757854

If you're the leader I think you have to wait until another person logs on that you can hand leadership over to. So if you are the leader you will have to wait and instead just add me in-game as a friend. Name is Soren Gale.

>>14757817

so after i max out my vocation of fighter, maybe i'll goo to warrior/assassin, then after that start fucking with magic? i really enjoy the melee combat in this game, but i havnt tried anything else really.

i've only played as a fighter, but what classes do you think are the most fun? the warrior and sorcerer classes look the most fun to me.

>>14757865

I can't just disband it? That's kind of a hassle, considering that the clan is all but empty now except for one guy that retired. Anyway, I sent you a friend request. I've gotta go to work in 20 so maybe we can do something later.

>>14755276

I'm playing it on ps4 pro so, you should really say. RIP xbox 360 users. Also you can use the a.i. pawns, it's just user pawns getting switched off.

>>14757897

Is not only after you have maxed out a class, you play with a class until you have gain the amount of stats you desired. Character level is separated from Vocation level. I'll say to try out every class and find what you like. Vocation level goes quite faster than character level, so you can unlock their skills and try out things without screwing your character.

As for the most fun class, it really depends in your style of play. My favorite is Mystic Knight. It is quite versatile and can be built either to use magic attacks or buff its physical attacks with magic, as well as focusing on perfect guarding. Assassin is also pretty nice because it is very powerful and can equip Daggers, Swords, Shields and Bows, making it the most varied class to play as. I like fighter for the most part, but I dislike the Dragon's Maw spam at high level, I find it boring. Warrior is kind of niche. Capcom fuck Warrior over by just letting them equip 3 skills. It is probably the weakest and harder class to play, but some of its skills are some of the most fun and satisfying to use (Arc of Deliverance) and are quite powerful. I like it but it takes some practice. Sorcerer's spells are amazing, and finding enemies weak points is pretty fun, but the class isn't really for me. It is more about finding the right position and time to cast spells or just spam Holy bolts. Having Sorcerer pawns with the Utilitarian attitude and the same high level spells as you can help, as they will synchronize their spells with you and help you cast much more faster. The cast time are very, very slow for high level spells. Can't say much about Magic Archer, but I heard it is pretty cool with homing arrows and setting yourself on fire. If you like climbing enemies then Strider and Assassin are good for you. Finally, if you want to play support or focus in status effects pick Mage.

>>14756731

>See in 1.0 you didn't deal damage and had to deal with an annoying mechanic that then made the boss die because he staggered for a minute

>Now in 2.0 you don't deal damage but a different gauge fills up! Where upon when it fills up the boss falls over and instantly dies because the stagger lasts for so long

You're right total world of difference there numbnuts. I don't think you understand the issue that "fight until enrage, enrage nonsense, kill boss during stagger" kills the fight flow.

>>14757947

i'll give those a shot. i like how the game lets you experiment with the different classes with the same character. i just dont want to pigeonhole myself into only being able to play melee.

shame about warrior. i usually enjoy running around with a giant hammer being the tank while my band of loli pawns protect and buff me with magic and protect me with arrows.

but i'd like to switch it up and be able to do magic. however now that i play fighter so much, i cant imagine myself standing back and casting spells instead of climbing up a monster and beating it to death with a flaming sword while my pawns throw oil at it.

im actually playing this on ps4, i saw the physical copy for ~10 so i grabbed it on a whim. so unfortunately mods arent an option. the games alot of fun though. baffling it would be a ps3 exclusive for so long.

>>14758018

If you like magic and tanking then Mystic Knight is pretty good with that. If you like to discover the classes skills by yourself don't read the spoiler.

Its signature weapon is the Great Shield, which can be enchanted with spell so when you perform a perfect guard a spell will be casted automatically, hurting the enemies and, depending on the element of the spell, producing a secondary effect (fire burns, light slowdown the enemies. It can also equip swords and staffs. With staffs you can cast a number of Mage spells. With sword you have different attacks, including some of the Fighter skills, and some unique ones like a flying version of the Fighter dash attack (the one that looks like Stinger from DMC), You also will have access to party-wide elemental enchantments, unique buffs spells that let you defend better or that add dark damage and read to your physical attacks on top of any element you enchant your weapon with, some powerfull AoE spells of Fire and Light element that can be casted regardless of if you use Sword or Staff (I think you use you shield to cast them) and finally, probably the Mage Knight's signature attacks, the Magick Cannon and Magick mine. The first let you summon a magic sphere that when hit by anyone, enemies, allies or yourself, shoots magic bolts in great quantities and of the element of your weapon. You can even summon three of them and shoot one cannon to another one to cause a chain effect. The second, the Magick mines, are, as the name suggest, a mine that activates when enemies enter its area and hit multiple times. You can summon three of them at the same time. If you combine both skill, you will have enemies stepping on the mines, which activate and hit both the enemies and the Magick Cannon in rapid succession, making the Cannon shoot a huge amount of bolts, melting both the enemies and your console.

Still, both Warrior and Fighter can tank just right, but neither of them have spells. You can always compensate by crafting grimoires and scrolls to cast spells from them. They can be pretty strong and save you if you are in a pinch.

>>14758114

he means that last part literally by the by, it will straight up crash your game if you go too hard

>>14758114

i am much more familiar with making a "build" in dark souls, for example "leveling dex to X and leveling strength until you can weild the weapon you want, then add to health and stamina until X, etc" dragons dogma seems to work more like… "level up as sorcerer, 20 times, level up as fighter 20 times, level up as warrior 20 times, etc.

is it recomended for me to jump straight into sorcerer to grow that magical ability before becoming a mystic knight?

is it possible/normal to have a character that can pretty much play any role depending on what i feel like playing? like by the time im level 300 or whatever, how easy/viable is it to have a well rounded character that i can play any vocation i want? or max all of the vocations?

is this something i can easily achieve? or is this more of something that would require intricate and tedious planning.

also, are all the builds this agile? i really enjoy the platforming in this game and dont want to sacrifice the mobility.

>>14758121

noted.

>>14758203

I mean if you want to minmax your magic stat you basically level as sorc until 100, then swap to magic knight.

It's recommended that you sort of do, but not necessary. Most people do it until like 30-50

>>14758248

oh no, i meant, try to give each class an equal trial before hitting 100. to an extent.

like if i was to pick the 5 most appealing classes, and play each one 20 levels. would that give the character a nice well rounded ability to play other classes? i assume if i play as a sorcerer for 20 levels, then id also be ok as a mage. if i wanted to later on. right?

>>14758315

>It may be possible to make a balances character.

Wanted to say balanced.

>>14758301

technically yeah? you'll always be lacking in the damage department though, unless you abuse items, then you're god king no matter what.

Damage is absurdly important given how defense works

>>14757996

I don't think you understand at all.

>1.0 Enrage starts and you need to deplete a gauge. The problem isn't the gauge but method which was to pull on the monster and do nothing else.

>2.0 Enrage has the player continue fighting as normal, but with more factors to worry about and the fact you aren't doing as much damage is negligible considering you're still using the same class mechanics.

The fight still continues on, you're still engaged with the combat mechanics and using your class properly and co-operating without the fight halting as you spam pull for 2 minutes.

It kills none of the combats flow, you just aren't dealing as much damage which doesn't matter at all considering it actually ups the pace by constantly ensuring the monster will begin using their stronger attacks.

>>14760065

Not really, it's like a phase change during a boss fight where he gets a shield that makes him immune to damage, it just is a flow killer

>>14757331

Kikes don't want to promote something that is without DRM

>>14757591

I'm seeing bug fixes in the patch notes

>>14761256

>Traditional Chinese language support added.

>The title screen has removed copyright dates 2013 and 2016 and has added 2017.

>Inflection Augment now properly halves the severity of damage taken while intoning spells instead of multiplying it by 2.72 (even though there are plenty of mods that fix it since forever ago)

Those are some real important fixes, anon

>>14761225

It sure is wonderful how you continue to respond with low effort posts and constantly not think about the mechanics of the game at all. Great job not appearing like you belong back on halfchan with all the mongoloid faggots.

When one says that a fights pace or flow is broken it does not mean in regards to your damage dealt but the shift in "gear" of the fight.

Enrage 1.0 shifted gear to jumping on an enemy and spamming an uninteresting, unfun, tedious and skilless move to whittle a bar away. You get forced from engaging the boss with your class mechanics to what is essentially the slowest pace bar actually stopping the fight entirely.

In 2.0 you don't get forced to stop attacking, you don't get forced to bounce off and suffer recovery animations, you don't get pushed to the other end of the map whilst the boss performs moves and you need to wait for his nose to glow red to ground pound it, you don't have to walk slowly in an unskippable cutscene and you don't have to actively disengage with the game. When talking about the "Pace" of a fight what matters is how many factors are you being expected to keep in mind and how you are expected to mechanically deal with them. By this logic, enrage in 2.0 serves to move the pace of the fight further along as the enemy is harsher and the player now able to use other options to respond in kind.

Whilst the progress (HP damage dealt.) is slowed down the actual progression of the fight is not halted. Essentially, the player's expression is not limited but expanded upon and tested. The definition of moving the fight along, not pushing back or halting.

A phase in which the boss takes low damage is not a pace breaker alone, it's when the only response to it is to wait it out or just as offensively, spam pull on the boss monsters asshole whilst in minimal danger.

>>14761519

read, nigger. There are multiple fixes not to mention online doesnt work right in GoG version

>>14762741

Piracy wins again I guess.

>>14762419

You're playing DDO minimal danger is the norm

>>14762710

Read what? Stop being a nigger, that's all I could find in unofficial patch notes and official notes state a fix for single BBI quest nobody gives a shit about, because it requires a lot of grind and has a shit reward. You're just looking for excuse to pirate and that's okay, anon, I pirated too

>>14758315

im going to try to go fighter > sorcerer (until magic is competent, maybe 30 levels.) > mystic knight (until stats are balanced) maybe another 30 levels > assassin (fun)

maybe eventually i'll try warrior/mage, but mostly just for experimenting.

>>14768757

Mage is bad

It's basically a pawn-only vocation, sorc has everything from it worth using

>>14768834

if i make my loli pawn a sorcerer, will she heal me? or is that mage only.

right now my main loli pawn is a strider. then my 2 extra loli pawns are mage/sorcerer.

what are the best vocation routes for support pawns if i want to be the fighter?

does the chart in >>14758315 apply to pawns as well?

>>14768896

Yeah, healing's mage only, it's the only thing exclusive to it, which is why it's not great for a player character

Basically anything is good for a pawn as long as it's not the same vocation as you(unless that vocation is sorcerer), though they can be practically useless no matter what they are if they're trained wrong

>>14768917

a main sorcerer with a pawn sorcerer is a good combo? what do you mean by train? like how i equip skills?

>>14768927

>a main sorcerer with a pawn sorcerer is a good combo?

Wizzbros have good synergy together because you can simultaneously cast the same spells to reduce cast time, and the high tier magic is ridiculous

Assuming you can get them to cast the same spells as you, of course

>what do you mean by train?

Pawns have general inclinations based on what you do in the field or what you tell them to do that guide their AI

You can also teach them specific simple tricks through repetition, though results may vary

>>14768994

> can also teach them specific simple tricks

interesting. is this when i make her sit in "the chair" and tell her to be a guardian instead of a nexus and now "run around and gather shit" is no longer an option?

or is there some other pawn mechanic?