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>Falchion gets nerfed

>only use Rapiers anyway

>>14701132

How come this anon always post in the Vermintide threads? Has he posted elsewhere? Is there a pattern?

>>14701098

>Reddit got the falchion nerfed as predicted

More nerfs are the least needed shit for this game, fucking Reddit niggers

>>14701397

>On Thursday May 3 we will make a HUGE beta patch (around 22gb) available on Steam. The patch will include a large amount of optimizations and bug fixes. It will also lay the foundation for future patches, which will not have to be as large thanks to this patch.

Surely it isnt Early Access levels of bullshit, this patch is like re-downloading the fucking game again.

>>14701397

>On Thursday May 3 we will make a HUGE beta patch (around 22gb) available on Steam.

I fucking hate this trend of devs thinking people are fine with redownloading their games.

>>14701843

our girls

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>just unlocked FK Kruber

Holy moly, I love how tanky he is. Charging through hordes of enemies is fun as fuck.

>PC's been freezing with audio stutters randomly since playing this game

>happens more frequently over the past week

>load up the game and notice a significant drop in FPS/performance

>check the status of my hardware, narrow it down to GPU

>notice a siginificant decrease in GPU and memory clock during idle periods (139MHz and 405MHz respectively)

>only spikes up when playing a game, with higher demanding games performing worse than before (lower framerates when I used to be able to play them with high framerates), but lower demanding/older games play just fine

Well shit. guess I won't be playing this game for a while. The card is only a year old too. My fault in the end for playing the game during warmer nights and for too long, but still annoying that I may have to spend money for a new card earlier than expected.

Word to the wise for those playing or looking to play it (Toaster PC users be warned especially); make sure to keep your GPU cooled as much as possible when playing, or don't play for long periods unless using top of the line hardware. The game will run your card like an oven when placed on recommended settings. Also heard crashes from this game causing RAM cards to no longer work properly (from previous threads here).

>>14701378

This kind of sentiment is FUCKING RETARDED.

Having one option in even coop game be out-and-out the best option is stupid, and not fun. Even more pressingly: Having entire characters be shit in comparison to others isnt fucking fun. I'm sure it's nice to feel like an all-powerful god, but then the rest of your fucking team sits there with their cocks in their hands being worthless and hating being worthless.

Balance is still important in a Coop game, to argue otherwise is nigger-tier thinking.

>>14701915

I don't know how I feel about the lore breaking of adding female skavens. On one hand, more rat girls… on the other hand, respect the damn lore.

>>14702837

They're not adding squat my dude.

Also: I am not sure the Niche that Bounty Hunter's ult is meant to fulfil.

The CD is too long to use on random specials (Even with the CD talent), it doesn't clear hordes particularly well even with the Buckshot talent. IT doesn't really do THAT much damage to bosses, even with a Crit. (Though the knockback is nice against Chaos Spawns when they grab a player (Though our Kruber's charge and Pyro's flaming skull does that same job with lower cooldown)

The only use ive really found for it is to wipe out Chaos Warriors, which it does rather well…. although our Pyro does the same fucking job with Flaming skull without having to aim, and without the horrendous cooldown.

WHAT IS MY ULT MEANT TO BE FOR.

>>14702837

>green nipples

>>14702890

same but I care more about lore than porn, and we're getting porn regardless

>>14702837

Wont happen, unless its in mod form.

Possibly lewd

>>14702850

Strange shit to pin, as art for a rat killing simulator were females are disgusting breeding machines.

Maybe FS is into it, but the lore wont let it

>>14702860

In my experience, the ult is very jack-of-all-trades but really is a master of none. None of Saltzpyre's Ults are good compared to some of the game changing stuff seen elsewhere like Knight's charge, Pyro's flaming head, or Ironbreaker's taunt.

There's no question about taking the CD Reduction, and with the sheer amount of killing you can do you can usually get it off frequently enough. You really just have to make the most of it for the situation:

>The heavy piercing damage enables you to take off a large amount of Chaos Warrior HP, especially with a crit headshot. This just became way more important with the severe DPS loss of the Falchion.

>In close range, the scattershot can one-shot a Mauler on a crit and can clear 1-2 stormvermin; not to mention staggering additional targets making it very handy for slowing patrols so you can bomb or reposition.

>The scattershot staggers normal enemies in a fairly decent radius, allowing you to clear an escape route along a wall or for a revive.

>The lack of damage fall-off makes it an excellent pocket sniper for specials for when you can't use your V-Bow– especially if you lack visibility or its got bodies in front of it.

>The scattershot and piercing shot can take out dozens of low-tier enemies at once, allowing you to recoup half your health bar from a single healthy wave. With a +30% Healing trinket this can fill your bar if you have a decent angle on a fresh wave, which can be important for carrying a team on your back or softening the impact of poor defensive play.

>>14702817

The biggest issue with the constant nerfs to the current 'meta' is that the constant kvetching from reddit ISN'T about what's consistently overpowered– the gap between the best weapon for a class or character and the second best is often bigger than the second best and the worst weapon for the same character. This isn't helped by loudmouthed shitholes like reddit being flooded with people who think they have an opinion on balance when they're playing half-baked builds in the Easy and Normal difficulties. Weapons like the Halberd, Glaive, Beam Staff, 2h Hammer and pre-nerf Falchion all had their rightful place at the top of the mountain simply because they accomplish all of the fundamentals for a good weapon while excelling at one or more other things.

So many character options are outright broken or are incredibly poorly thought out in execution, which becomes more and more relevant as you rise through the difficulties to Legend where the game's mechanics finally begin to take a consistent shape and present specific challenges that half the game's equipment simply cannot overcome in their current state. In Legend you simply can't get by with garbage weapons like the 1h Axe or 2h Sword because they simply don't accomplish anything fundamental; even with top-tier movement and positioning you'll find yourself dominated by hordes, unable to cope with armor, slowly chewing into the HP of chaos ambients, or ruined by shields and elites.

These weapons (and to an extent, other character options) all need serious upgrading and tuning not to compete with high-powered obvious choices like the Glaive and Halberd, but need to be brought up to par so they can serve functionally in a more demanding difficulty that presents more numerous and specific challenges for any given setup.

I'm not interesting in Warhammer lore but I liked Left 4 Dead 1&2. Is this game for me?

>>14702837

>faint green glow in the rat pussy

Did she shove a warpstone dildo in there or something? That can't be healthy.

>>14702817

>>14702891

you ignorant slut, this post >>14703003 lays it out correctly

>>14703427

I honestly can't imagine how they're balancing this shit, the damage calculations and values for weapons are so goddamn arbitrary and unclear it's ridiculous. The only place you can reasonably balance for is 600 HP Champ/Legend but that's clearly not what they're doing.

I've been sitting here trying to figure out the math for WHC headshots with and without his grimoire buff but it's just impossible– and from what I've seen even people with access to the game files don't have a clue on how to put the numbers together or even if they're accurate.

I started playing a few nights ago. Only played the dwarf so far. Both Slayer with dual axes and Ironbreaker with the heat ammo pistols are fun. The starting career Ranger I'm not so sure about.

Any weapons or tips I should know about?

Also, what the fuck am I doing when it comes to crafting? Should I dust everything else that I'm not using? What is the most efficient way to spend resources to craft something decent?

>Rapier pistol stuns rasknitt.

I mean I don't know why I would expect it not to when there's literally two characters that have infinite ammo ranged weapons but still, that's nice.

>>14703648

Ranger with gruderaker is pretty good since you never run out of ammo, especially so if you pick the extra ammodrop talent. Save your dust for later crafting, you will replace your gear pretty often until you reach 300. Green dust can get pretty sparse later on if you need to reroll for optimal stats.

>Falchion nerf

THANKS A BUNDLE REDDIT YOU SCROTUM SUCKING TRIPLE NIGGERS I HOPE YOU GET RAPED TO DEATH BY A PACK OF FERAL FUDGE PACKERS AND YOUR CAT DIES FROM GRIDS AFTER EATING YOUR DISEASED, SEMEN RIDDLED CORPSE.

Fuck I hate these cancerous, spittle dribbling retards. It's not even a reasonable nerf, which it didn't need in the first place. Now it's straight into the dumpster where it has to compete with the 2handed sword for the "worst weapon in the game" award. It actually surpasses the axe in worthlessness.

>Flail buff

I guess you're the new falchion now. You're still not as good as the old falchion, but at least you've got something going for you now.

>>14703003

This sums up the problem pretty well. It's not that shit keeps getting nerfed across the board, it's that only some shit is getting nerfed while other shit gets suspiciously skipped over consistently.

And it is absolutely entirely Reddit's fault.

>Their herd mentality draws them towards the popular, ezmode bullshit crutches so that's what they use.

>They're really fucking bad so they struggle with it even thought the things they use are massively overpowered by comparison to anything else.

>They see someone else use something to great effect outside of their retard meta.

>That person probably knows what the fuck they're doing because they can take a handicap and still manage to be successful.

>Reddit doesn't understand this since they operate at a cognitive level barely above most single-celled organisms.

>All they see is that somebody has more green circles than them even thought they're using different equipment.

>This must mean the gear the other guy is using must be too powerful.

>Bitching and blogposting on their carcinogenic cesspool where the tard kings at Fat Shark can see them.

>Two weeks later that weapon/career can't even be used as a handicap.

These people are living, breathing evidence in that eugenics might be a better idea than previously considered.

>>14704213

I think there's a clear difference between a Kerillian and Bardin when it comes to them being beginner friendly.

Kerillian is very mobile, ranged-oriented, and incredibly easy to score kills with with one of the best kits in the game (Glaive + Longbow), but more importantly kits that absolutely demolish Easy and Normal mode (Namely, Swift Bow and Dual weapons). Coupled with the offensive bonuses and sustain granted by Waystalker, most new players select Kerillian and are heavily enabled to run off on their own, spam light attacks into hordes, and shoot all their ammo into ambients so they can get green circles.

WS's basically built around teaching someone already predisposed to being a shitter to run around chasing kills and not being punished for it, while Handmaiden and Shade each have their own problems– being a nigh-invulnerable, stupidly mobile 'clutch' character and by being an incredibly janky and squishy 'play-maker' respectively.

Both of these feed the ego of terrible players in different ways by promoting a last-man-standing/"I'm the hero" playstyle where Handmaidens will literally let allies die or run off ahead when people are downed/constantly try to rez in the middle of hordes or under boss aggro, and an xXMLG_Pr0_Sn1p3rXx tunnel vision for Shade players where they will hyper-focus larger targets to the complete exclusion of anything else or any other use of their ult; leading to them constantly being boxed into hordes by CW and SV, demolished by cleaving and running attacks even when in their ult, and getting smashed by guard-penetrating boss slams while they try to get off their gay backstab and sneak attack in every fucking situation it could possibly apply in.

Bardin, on the other hand, is much slower and methodical. His melee weapons require more than one attack string to deal with different threats and are an excellent teaching mechanism for dealing with armor and hordes respectively: Bonk the helmet-rat on the head, swing to knock his friends away, and block to avoid hurting. Simple, and effective.

The Ranger Veteran is a less offensive and forgiving class than WS with a heavy support element: allowing the team to have a constant influx of ammunition while backed by the Ranger's versatile but effective Ult; which is an escape option, boss-killer, and elite-clearer depending on the situation by letting the Ranger do what it does better and help cover up for bad situations and plays. The class is easy because it's very focused in what it does, supports itself and the team, and has a versatile ultimate that isn't limited to a specific niche.

Meanwhile, the Ironbreaker is the best tank in the game and is set up in such a way that even a player who is not good at positioning and movement can heavily contribute to a team– but a skilled Ironbreaker can utilize those same skills to become even more invulnerable and contribute more to his team than eating Mauler running attacks and standing in front of a horde. Combined with the heat-based ranged weaponry the Ironbreaker is entirely self-sustaining, and is one of the easiest to play and most powerful classes in the game (the reason Reddit doesn't bitch about this more often is because they love playing him to feel competent, and he doesn't get in the way of their green circles). The class is incredibly easy because of its powerful defensive mechanics and sustain that allow the player to function despite a lack of skill elsewhere– though this can either make for a good learning experience for those skills, or a terrible crutch.

Slayer on the other hand completely bucks this trend and requires a much higher skill level to play, as well as good communication and support with your team due to your inability to tackle specials.

tl;dr: Kerillian feels really powerful and important to shitters, Bardin is good at what he does while being otherwise competent with safety nets.

>>14701098

can someone with kike relative use his mindcontrol jewmangik to sell me this game ?

i have friends who play it but i just can't see the apeal when i already have pd2 or other l4d clone. at least pd2 have the doing "heist"

the combat seems quite bland too. from the video i see you just play yo-yo with your character .

even the Handmaiden's career who looks nice is just : one skill that make you dash through enemies…

Is this game broom/sweeper (bulldozer?) simulator ?

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=tiX7qwAfuHE

>join legend game in-progress

>team of slayer, fk, and filthy green elf

>halfway through the mission, after a patrol has been pinged and announced in text chat, they fire their ult at a single special that's already being taken care of

>this triggers the patrol, killing the party within a minute as the elf's covered flank is crushed and the horde sweeps in from behind with elites spamming overheads like they're going out of style

>for some reason god only knows, stick with the group despite the elf host

>they proceed to do the same exact thing to a stormvermin patrol in Against the Grain and a chaos patrol in War Camp before we're past the 1st grim in either map.

Are elf players legitimately incapable of learning? Your 12% HP from that fire rat isn't going to kill you, you have infinite health and ammo regeneration.

>>14706787

Spawns in general vary wildly depending on the host (the game is very CPU dependent so a chugging host leads to stumbling AI and reduced spawns), but you might be noticing the mandatory ambush that comes with a boss spawn and the fixed special spawning, where a coordinated spawn will now have them spaced out long enough for the callouts/audio to properly play.

>Reddit got the falchion nerfed

>Elf knife on a stick still the best melee weapon in the game

>nerfing in a non-competitive game

>>14706948

>Are elf players legitimately incapable of learning?

Yes.

>>14707337

>2 minutes into Against the Grain

>We clear the patrol and head into the closet for the horde that's inevitably coming at my request

>The elf turns around as we're all getting inside.

>The elf stares directly at me and the slayer, then notices her full ult meter.

>The elf knocks her ult and fires it randomly forward, point-blanking me and then the slayer.

>I go from full health to less than a third, the slayer is nearly killed on the spot.

>To add insult to injury, she also aggroed a bunch of ambient chaos standing around behind the first wall that ended up downing the slayer.

I should have just gunned her down then and there.

>>14702860

Though this has been talked about a lot the one thing I seemed to notice about BH ult is that it can quite consistently snipe specials that are tagged but hiding behind map geometry.

I'm not sure about it but I think it actually pierces through so it very useful in killing that Blightstormer on the other end of the map nobody else can snipe because a box is in the way and can make the difference between a wipe and win. Granted yes flaming skull in theory can also do this if there is literally nothing else in the way but all you need is one skavenslave to jump in the way and it bounces away into the skybox.

They stealth nerfed the Volleybow in the hotfix.

I fucking knew something was up, and compared footage to 1.0.6 but data miners confirmed it this morning. The penetration has been severely reduced to the point where a maxed crit will only penetrate 2~ rats.

They're now implementing nerfs without patch notes or public announcement, I'd be disgusted with this shady underhanded bullshit if I wasn't almost certain they did this on accident.

>>14720043

>They're now implementing nerfs without patch notes or public announcement

I fucking knew it.

I knew it when I discovered the brace of pistols lost half of its armor penetration a couple of patches ago, even though I had tested it a few nights before the patch. If they're doing this shit accidentally, they're "accidentally" fucking up pretty consistently.

sneak peak of a thing

New Beta Patch

https://steamcommunity.com/games/552500/announcements/detail/1654388046320305516

https://archive.is/cz9Kp

>>14734411

>they fucking nerf huntsman

>>14734411

The beta patch seems good overall, but there's a fuckton of undocumented fixes/additions and a ton of changes/nerfs that aren't listed and probably never will be. It's safe to say that from this point onwards you can only trust dataminers and modders for weapon info.

The consensus among the community is that the beta patch is the state the game should have been released in, and it's starting to really feel that way to me with the shorter load times and lack of crashes/game drops.

>>14735037

Wait until they release the first DLC, as of right now there's a ton of promised content and fixes coming but not confirmation on when they'll arrive other than the fact that they should be released before the DLC. This means waiting a month or two tops, which should put it into summer sale territory.

>>14735509

I'm not saying it's a good patch or the game is fine or the devs aren't all over the place with their priorities, but today was the first day none of my Legend pubs had someone instantly die and their tome vanish, my game crash, the host to DC, or seeing enemies moonwalk through walls as host.

It's an improvement but fuck me 1.1.0 needs come soon with everything they've promised (UI fixes, crafting overhaul, new map, actually releasing cosmetics and keep customization, etc) or this shit is gonna be down in the gutter with VT1 in less than 90 days after release.

>>14734418

Well between that, stealth nerfs, and this game causing my whole PC to freeze and crash (even when trying to re-download it for whatever reason), I think I'm done playing this game for a while (or altogether).