d39ca4 No.14685857
https://archive.fo/lPJUA
YES LET'S GIVE COMPANIES MORE CONTROL OVER YOUR PURCHASED GOODS AND THE POWER TO REMOVE YOUR ABILITY TO PLAY GAME X IF WE ART CURATORS GAME JOURNOS FIND IT PROBLEMATIC DOWN THE ROAD
ff86a4 No.14685874
If you own a console you deserve this
f8e0aa No.14685879
>digital only is bad
>you shouldn't buy games though
>just pirate them
8a73b1 No.14685885
They need to make the digital download more enticing first before they can scrap it. If it was sold cheaper than physical, that would be a good enough excuse to MAYBE go for digital over physical, but its not. So no.
5375b7 No.14685892
Digital downloads are superior its just faggot publisher placing them on DRM platforms.
df498f No.14685896
>>14685857
Why make this?Didn't you already get enough (you)s in the gaygator thread?
>>14685784
3f8b3e No.14685898
>>14685857
sooner or later is coming.
cd86d3 No.14685905
>>14685857
If it's digital only, does this mean that the price will be lower than 60-70 dollars/euros? :^)
67792c No.14685906
>microsoft infamous for paying journos to push narratives like they did with their 'japanese games are shit' astroturf in '07
>nintendo and sony said as recently as last week 'physical is here to stay'
I WONDER WHO COULD BE BEHIND SUCH AN ARTICLE?
432a7c No.14685907
>download speed of 300 kb/s
>tfw downloading about 30 gb files takes me about two days, assuming that I download it at max speed non stop
And most games nowadays are even bigger than 30 gb. Make digital viable where I live and maybe I'll accept it, otherwise I'm not waiting that much for a video game
f8e0aa No.14685909
>>14685905
Of course not, you silly goyim. Servers aren't free.
8a73b1 No.14685910
>>14685905
Of course not. They'd find some excuse to jack up the price more than anything.
8f1fe5 No.14685914
>>14685910
>They'd find some excuse to jack up the price more than anything.
Bandwidth, and server costs.
ffe3a2 No.14685918
>>14685907
>One group of jews wants digital only media
>Another group of jews is holding back internet infrastructure
Free me from this glass prison.
d39ca4 No.14685922
>>14685896
Must be a sad life being obsessed with something you hate and that doesn't have any actual influence on your life. For example I hate bronies, I think they are gullible idiots who fell for a /b/tard old shitpost campaign and genuinely believed there was this massive community of adults who loved a children cartoon and were all about friendship and shit. You know when was the last time I went to a site/board/thread/subreddit of theirs? Never, because even though I despise them their antics don't affect me in the least so I don't waste my time going there and saying how much I hate them. TL:DR: Take a hint and look for something better to do with your time
5375b7 No.14685924
>>14685907
>wasting your time on the computer instead of killing emos
Are you afraid you'll lose again?
a0512e No.14685930
>>14685857
I remember how Cloud-streaming was the future, how several companies invested hundreds of millions only to fail.
39a386 No.14685936
>>14685867
>consoles need to ditch dicks
5375b7 No.14685939
>>14685936
They already have.
21a7be No.14685944
>some self-important twat thinking he is an authority on anything
What a joke.
Really makes you think when self-proclaimed "journalists" try to tell others what to do. You want to be a journalist, report on news and shut the fuck up.
d39ca4 No.14685948
>>14685906
Intel used(?) to sponsor all Venturebeat/Gamesbeat gaming articles. I can't find their logo at the bottom of the page anymore, maybe their partnership ended? It was still there 3 months ago at least
300985 No.14685949
>>14685922
Shows how much value your thread has when you have more to say to the guy rightly calling you out than you do in the OP.
6f9159 No.14685963
Surely if a company really wanted to stop you from playing a game, they could just release a patch for the console that stops your disc from being readable?
495be9 No.14685972
>>14685963
>they could just release a patch for the console that stops your disc from being readable?
Okay, I'll just disconnect from the internet.
23d6d8 No.14685981
One of the only worthwhile things about consoles in current year being removed, what a surprise
d39ca4 No.14685983
>>14685949
What else is needed in the OP. The pic is pretty straight-forward, did you wanted a sophisticated essay? The discussion is what matter and if the thread isn't good enough to your taste you can your friend can hide it or go to goober-unfriendly site like cuckchan or one of the moribund alternatives that pop here and there.
>>14685963
They can't do that but what they can is to control distribution channels and claim service unavailability if they don't want you to acquire some game for some reason
a0512e No.14685996
>>14685906
I remember that really went the hell up when they published Fez and Phil "Suck my dick, choke on it" Fish did his little "Your games suck" bullshit on that nip dev.
>>14685963
NISA can brick your console with their localization of a certain game that managed to force your PS3 to memory leak.
cd86d3 No.14686006
>>14685907
>most games nowadays are even bigger than 30 gb
Gears 4 is around 100+ Gigs with the 4K meme.
feb42c No.14686008
>>14685857
Discs indeed are outdated. Only pitiful beyond 3rd world state of USA internet infrastructure requires such atavism. Hopefully soon the Prophet of progress Elon Musk will uplift burgers from their caves.
P.S. They have already such control into their disposal. You are little bit late with black pilling.
d9b97b No.14686016
>>14685890
The difference being that PC users can pirate and storage their games while consolelads are stuck with a locked down brick.
Digital is becoming the norm on consoles now too.
d9b97b No.14686035
>>14686031
>Wrong
My HDD says otherwise
>and wrong
Half of the sales of big budget games are digital now.
Enjoy your kiked up brick with no games
76fc27 No.14686042
>ditching discs
What excuse will they use to keep the price at 60 dollarinos?
5375b7 No.14686045
>>14686031
Why would somebody even defend consoles as a concept? They are vastly inferior and only exist as products for you to be baited into buying wiht exclusives. Consoles are only still relevant because of an artificial market forced upon by jewry. Consoles are usury.
5375b7 No.14686048
>>14686042
The same as always "games are expensive to make"
3f9994 No.14686051
>>14686045
Because the PC market is full of pack rats who fill up their hard drives but never play anything, like >>14686035.
d9b97b No.14686064
>>14686047
>Console users can pirate
But they don't, the system is highly restrictive and based on older firmwares and online play is nearly impossible with it.
It's like pretending third party apps on Android OS and iOS function on the same way.
771133 No.14686090
>>14685918
There is no competition for ISP's in many countries, much monopoly. Blame your average voter falling for socialism, it makes getting the rights to start an ISP/lay the lines,
too difficult to bother with.
>>14685857
Your problems lie beyond the media itself. Who would buy a game from a company with a record of such activity? They would lose business.
0f00dc No.14686099
>>14685857
(((Jeremy Horwitz)))
064158 No.14686103
>>14685890
What fate? PC has more freedom because of piracy and modding is easier. Though that's only against modern consoles though since older consoles with a few exceptions are just as easy to mod/hack/pirate on too. Even then piracy on the PS4 and Switch is progressing nicely. In the end piracy will prevail over all. Be it on console or PC pirates ALWAYS win baby.
d9b97b No.14686105
>>14686077
>pretending playing online is a legitimate value or thinking
Are you saying the multiplayer features in games like Bloodborne and Gundam are a bad thing?
Because if they weren't kiked up with a yearly fee and a locked down system they would actually be good.
Good to know you'll never join and enjoy a /v/ gamenight with that train of thought.
>the majority of console users act as encouragement for games to get made
Yeah, I'm really enjoying all those consolized IPs for retards that actually pay for them.
At least Nips have some degree of taste
>the usual propaganda
Next you'll defend 30 FPS on real time games
76fc27 No.14686116
>>14686048
I can't believe how many people actually believe this crap, games have become more cheap to produce over the years with companies just buying licenses for engines and other shit. The thing that actually sucks up a lot of money is the fucking publicity
d9b97b No.14686151
>>14686116
>buying licenses for engines and other shit
Not just that
They reuse a ton of assets and most have made their in house engines which cost them nothing after the initial development process.
All the budget to these shit AAA games nowadays goes to marketing and nothing more.
67caa1 No.14686172
>>14685857
>consoles
>not PC
>not just pirating everything
YOU DESERVE RAPE.
5480f7 No.14686210
>>14685857
> Anecdote
> Anecdote
> Companies are doing things
> Consoles have hard drives
> It's just easier
> Not featured: An argument for why discs need to be ditched
Clickbait nonsense with a provocative headline and completely insubstantive content. Nothing but filler. Move along.
b10a56 No.14686222
>>14686031
>dead market
>said reddit cuckchanner for 789th time
>meanwhile more and more games are ported on pc
8bcd1e No.14686236
The corporate shill piece in the OP is one of the pieces designed to craft a narrative to push this kind of thing. I wonder what kind of influence they are exerting over him, or is it just a secondary result of propaganda. Digital will not give you any advantage other than short term convenience which is what half the article is talking about (basically a FUCK YOU to archiving); but it's only convenient until it stops being convenient. Big publishers/corporations never pass their savings on to the customer, so there's no point in hoping for cheaper games, which is what we should have had from the begining. Steam is abysmal for archiving and introduced gamification into games as standard (for PC) which is just cancer. Digital, at most, is to be used in addition to retail (without physical copies forcing you to log into the DRM platform); or it can be used for small game devs who can't afford to publish their games.
985f35 No.14686239
>Jeremy Horwitz
With each passing day my hate for the chosen grows stronger.
064158 No.14686260
>>14686212
Yeah time is definitely on our side. No matter how stunted or delayed cracking consoles or whatever 'piracy killer' DRM progress will be made. In the long term pirates win even if the pace might be slow on certain systems and consoles. Another factor in our favor is that the back catalog of previous and current games is already huge and there are already more than enough games to last any anon's backlog multiple lifetimes over. So even in the worst case scenario where the industry develops a perfect DRM system that prevents piracy and modding we would already have more games that we could ever play.
>>14686254
Even if you're right which you're not. What would be the big deal? The current backlog is already more than any one person could ever play.
67caa1 No.14686272
>>14686254
>HURR DURR I POST SELFIE BECAUSE I SUCK CONSOLE COCK
lol reported
771133 No.14686295
>>14686236
Businessmen with acumen increase their capital, branch out, invest in tech, whatever. If their marketing team/the economy, decides $60 is reasonable, and they can become more efficient while having a $60 price point, then why would they remain static in quality and capacity(reducing price) instead of competing on the market with other corporations?
They can increase quality, innovate, and surprisingly maintain a $60 product despite inflation.
Labeling of greed on corporations are ironically driven by blind consumer greed.
d9b97b No.14686298
>>14686212
>Are you saying online play is the main draw of single player games like nioh and bloodborne?
No, I'm saying it's something to take in consideration if you want piracy in your brick especially since those multiplayer features are part of the game design.
And yes, multiplayer in those games is good
>>14686284
>Outside of indie shit and broken slav games, what is actually made for PC first these days?
Strategy and Sim games that you will never play because you're a shit taste consolefag casual.
985f35 No.14686299
>>14686295
>blind consumer greed
the audacity of this nigger
5f5abd No.14686300
>>14686103
>In the end piracy will prevail over all.
This anon gets it. The piracy is the literal last hope of vidya and I'm fucking buyfag for my whole life. All the console wars, corporation shilling and tyranny, anti-consumer practices will be slain with piracy.
Also I suggest anons to stop replying to obvious warmongering consolefags. We've done this shit for years, it's time to stop feeding them.
25d5a8 No.14686306
Consoles need to be ditched.
e75953 No.14686307
>>14686284
>literally 56%
I hate the mutt meme, but that got me.
67caa1 No.14686314
>>14686284
>you didn't know something (because I say so) that I didn't intimate (because it's not relevant)
>ha ha i win now
Yep, reported.
f2390a No.14686320
>>14686295
They can only maintain a $60 product "despite" inflation because they themselves were overcharging to begin with. And it's not as though the $60 is the only money they ask of the consumer, there'll be multiple 10-20 dollar packs and/or microtransactions afterwards.
a8b7bd No.14686324
stop pushing the 56% meme, thanks
bfe582 No.14686333
>>14686016
Do you know most consoles now CFW that allow pirating and digital storage, right? Check the 3DS and soon the switch.
d9b97b No.14686335
>>14686333
Read the thread
d9b97b No.14686344
Best thing about this whole thread is how it showed that the consolefag autist is a cuckchan crossposter.
feb42c No.14686356
>>14686210
> An argument for why discs need to be ditched
Physical retail distribution expenses are unnecessary overhead.
985f35 No.14686358
>>14686344
I don't know why, but there's a lot of them lately and they've all been acting autistic about it when they're questioned.
f196cd No.14686370
Physical with NO INTERNET REQUIREMENT is the only way to go. The opposite created ALL the cancer that plagues the industry now.
d9b97b No.14686372
>>14686358
>lots of them
It's one autist lad
When you state facts he just deflects and goes on whole tangents
He just posted Steamcucks hardware surveys like it fucking matters, that's like posting stats about FIFA or CoD to define the Yakuza community
He's done this countless times
5f5abd No.14686376
>PC=Steam
Almost caused me physical pain.
a7f8a6 No.14686381
>a few key factors need to be fixed before this can happen
>gives no actual way to fix these key factors
why do jornos not offer solutions to the things they bitch about
d9b97b No.14686382
>>14686381
Because you already clicked
feb42c No.14686383
>>14686370
This have no value for game companies. Name reasons why should they deliver this to you? You can't.
50c47d No.14686384
>>14686381
Because solving the problem doesn't give you clicks: bitching does.
2eb1dd No.14686397
this is the same BS microshill already tried once with the xbone
the "games are a service" meme must die
34a97e No.14686401
>>14686383
It occurs to me that businessmen see value in not being beheaded, so they bend over backwards to appease the Muslims.
Mind you, this post is a complete nonsequitur. I have a bit of Tourette's where I feel a compulsive need to point out completely unrelated facts. There is absolutely no connection between this post and the post this post is replying to.
5a970c No.14686411
It's not gonna work for standard consoles. It works for steam because you use the PC for other things and it works for handhelds because of the added convenience. However with standard consoles too many people buy physical copies in order to go fully digital. There's the concept of sharing games which is extremely valued, especially because that's what basically saved the PS4. Hell Sony was gonna do the same thing as MS, until they saw that going fully online killed the platform. If anything Sony should move to flash memory for physical games rather than not having the option at all. I do see digital being the majority, but physical games have too much of a need to just disappear. Besides even with micro SD Cards the Switch is having storage issues.
5a970c No.14686413
>>14686397
Games are not a service, they can never be a service. Those that are a service are usually short lived. Look at Rock Band as a prime example.
184801 No.14686450
>>14686295
>>14686320
>the inflation meme
There are too many fucking factors to consider when talking about pricing. Inflation is one of them, but there are a lot of other issues to consider; since this is just going to be a rant about how bullshit "muh inflation" is as an argument, let's stick with that.
Inflation has a different effect on different groups, specifically different classes of people. Ever since 2008, the average wages for lower/middle-class Americans has stagnated or gone DOWN. Combine this with the march of inflation, regardless of how steady it is, and you can see that the bulk of people in this diseased shithole beautiful country have, for the last decade, been making the same relative amount of money or LESS than they were before. On the other hand, the upper class and the (((1%))) have had their average wages fucking skyrocket, with many CEOs making millions or more; in fact, as everyone should know by now, the majority of the country's wealth and really the world at large is concentrated in the hands of a select few people.
Inflation affects people differently based on various factors. If everything costs more, a $60 price tag is a relatively reasonable price tag for someone who was at least making due, but somebody who was already struggling to get by is not going to fork over the money for some piece of bullshit software that's not even likely to be any good, ESPECIALLY if there are start-up costs involved; don't forget that console games require a console to play, and Microsoft fully expects you to enthusiastically part with $400-500 of your potentially nonexistent, potentially non-disposable income for shitty entertainment that might spy on you and lock you out if you aren't connected to the internet.
Inflation is a fucking meme when it comes to pricing video games because the reality that too many analysts conveniently forget is that lower-class and middle-class wage slaves have been struggling to get by for at least a decade, and they generally aren't able to afford entertainment when they can already barely afford to pay rent or put food on the table. Too many big companies try to justify raising costs by citing inflation, unnecessary development costs like celebrity voice acting and motion capture, and advertisement budgeting going through the roof. They can barely even develop a working product, and they expect me to believe they understand the dynamics of economics and my paycheck in 2018 despite walking away with hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars a year in salary and compensation?
Bullshit.
fec789 No.14686457
>hurr durr I'm retarded t. "game journo"
what else is new
c683ae No.14686461
>>14686307
>>14686316
repoasting because mods got butthurt and the truth can't be hid. reminder console wars are only allowed to go one way and any flaws for the PC must be hidden. totally not showing a bias there mods
c683ae No.14686463
>>14686333
it's convenient to pretend these don't exist when you're a mustard trying to push narrative. Accepting they are a reality means you have less good boy points while you beg for cummies and ports.
d3344f No.14686464
>>14686356
They are a necessary overhead, retard.
57235a No.14686470
Come on dude, don't you like games which constantly get new content for free and don't occupy valuable space in your shelves?
c683ae No.14686477
>>14686470
physical master race
daf160 No.14686501
>>14685857
>It pushes developers to keep file sizes small
w h a t
b724ad No.14686531
>>14685892
Digital instantly stopped being better the second the actually illegal and completely illegitimate idea of software as a service end users don't actually own products.
4d8175 No.14686534
Fun Fact:
You can no longer buy any of Activision's transformes games on PC.
c683ae No.14686539
>>14686531
So, immediately then? I totally agree. Thanks Valve and thanks PC goys for cucking.
b724ad No.14686540
Seriously the whole software as a service thing is an abuse of outdated copyright law and is ALREADY ILLEGAL under other court decided laws.
3b3b77 No.14686551
Works for Burgers I guess were everything is cheap but Dutch PSN prices are INSANE so no I am not paying at least €20 more for a digital game.
And no I have no intention of facilitating the US economy with buying games from US PSN.
e7fa9e No.14686576
>>14686551
>12 tribes
only one of those tribes are the jews tho
771133 No.14686592
>>14686299
I mean it literally. We don't directly see the other end of the transaction, thinking no good comes from it. We don't see the investment and the innovation. The market replied to this, indie and pirated games are cheaper and readily available.
>>14686450
>wage remains static with dollar devaluation(inflation)
>vidya price too
>complains about 1% jews because of static values from 2005
Vidya expenses are part of disposable income. Rent and food have gone up, separate issue.
>development costs like celebrity voice acting and motion capture, and advertisement budgeting going through the roof.
>providing a superior product/ reaching necessary sales numbers to justify the games creation and having extra for company improvements/competitive edge
>hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars a year in salary and compensation
If that's what they get paid then their company, shareholders and the market value them at this value. Why should they voluntarily work hard and be the industry best for less money? Should Elon Musk take even less income so the consumer saves an extra $1000 on his product? What is the point in working so hard just to be demanded to earn less anyway, communist think.txt
All of this applies beyond current topic too.
ae77bd No.14686595
None of this would happen without IP bullshit.
Also, this is why we need piracy and mods.
da475b No.14686598
Games were better when it was an expensive hobby as it priced niggers and turd worlders out. No issues with ni haos in Quake 1 when you needed a system that cost $7k adjusted for current year inflation and a PPP connection to play it online. You've wiped your ass on my country club's floor and will not survive the purge.
0bdfee No.14686630
Always pirate.
Never buy.
Always wait for emulation and piracy.
d9b97b No.14686655
>>14686461
>People say console digital and PC digital is different
>Denies it and goes on a console war tangent without providing proof
You're all kinds of mad son
000000 No.14686659
>>14685857
Gamers will take it in the ass because muh gaymes are more important than principles.
I'm waiting for the first big-name console where you only get to play games by streaming them. It's coming.
dc489c No.14686674
I miss when consoles were specialized gaming machines instead of being gimped restricted PCs.
ddab49 No.14686688
>>14685857
Nothing beats buying a new game and flipping through the booklet full of artistic drawings, lore and little tidbits. I remember buying Magna Carta long ago and enjoy the booklet more than the game.
I still prize my physical copies of games I really enjoyed. Like Medievil in its original CD holder with the booklet.
FUCK digital downloads. The only reason for me to buy a game is for the physical copy of it and not the overpriced "collectors edition" shit either. So if they take away physical copies I have literally no incentive to buy a game ever again.
d9b97b No.14686704
>>14686674
>Different inputs
>No install times
>No online focus bullshit and always online singleplayer fucking games
>Inhouse architectures
It's all gone, the Switch is a weaksauce Nvidia Tegra tablet and still somehow is better than the other two pickings.
>>14686688
>Nothing beats buying a new game and flipping through the booklet full of artistic drawings, lore and little tidbits
You can still get all of that shit
Just fork over 120 good goy points
ffe3a2 No.14686706
People are buying more games than ever but very few actually play them because digital games are so easy to purchase at a whim that people simply mass buy games and never touch them. Remember when you'd go to the store to buy/rent ONE game and get EXCITED to play it? You would be focused on this one game and if you eventually got bored you'd play another game you knew that you like. Now there's so much fucking garbage games it's like wading through a sea of shit hoping to find something to float on.
>>14686501
Hilariously it's actually the complete opposite effect. Unlimited space means "infinite" room for duplicated assets and shit that shouldn't be there.
106483 No.14686707
So, you want a console to be even more like a PC? Might as well stop making consoles then.
d9b97b No.14686719
>>14686706
>Now there's so much fucking garbage games it's like wading through a sea of shit hoping to find something to float on.
While there's indeed more shovelware nowadays it's been like that since the 90's.
How new are you?
ffe3a2 No.14686731
>>14686719
Have you seen how many bottom of the barrel lowest effort games that come out on Steam every day?
b7fa53 No.14686732
>>14686707
Even PCs have upgradable internal storage though. Consoles have what…..SD Cards?
dc489c No.14686739
>>14686704
Not to mention no DLC and online patches, developers were actually encouraged to make complete, functional games. It all died after early 7th gen.
>>14686706
That's also important to remember. I grew up poor and had to treasure every single little game I could get every half a year at best meanwhile I had a rich retarded friend I met later in life who was showered with hundreds of games for every console and just ended up never playing most of them.
ddab49 No.14686754
>>14686704
>Just fork over 120 good goy points
No games used to put effort into the entire game including the physical copy of it. I will never pay for a collectors edition except if they give me insane incentives, which has not happened yet.
95f7e2 No.14686760
>>14686754
What would it take for your to pre-order a collector's edition?
c683ae No.14686769
>>14686732
external and internal storage upgrades. Your information is about 15 years out of date.
dd4adb No.14686775
>>14686732
I'm pretty sure anything with an HDD can have it replaced. You obviously can't put one into a portable, though.
95f7e2 No.14686777
>>14686769
>15 years
Sure, if don't care that the vast majority of external media still doesn't work and you're locked to a very specific subset of expensive hard drives. An "internal storage upgrade" for a console is just buying an entirely new Nintendo.
b93d99 No.14686786
>>14686470
Oh, I now see the unlimited potential of only digital downloads. What a kosher idea.
c683ae No.14686790
>>14686777
or unscrewing a plastic panel, removing an HDD, inserting a new one, and doing a system restore. Then you can even use the removed one with a SATA to USB adapter for more storage. 15 years out of date, but if I had to guess, a lifetime of stupidity. Kill yourself.
95f7e2 No.14686818
>>14686790
What exactly are you shilling for, here? Let's hear what consoles in 2003 you just swap out the internal hard drive. Bonus points if it didn't cost 5-10x as much as a regular hard drive at the time.
d9b97b No.14686824
>>14686731
Yes, and it was like this for PC, the PS2, the DS, the Gameboy and the Wii
Again, how new are you?
>>14686739
2007, always and forever
>>14686539
But thanks to digital I can now steal 90% of consoles exclusives and lick your tears.
ddab49 No.14686825
>>14686760
>A re-release of a game I really loved, lets say something like Fallout NV
>All artwork from development included in a nice booklet
>A couple of real life books you can find in the wasteland at least 80 pages of readable content in each book. At least two books.
>A lore encyclopedia or a character list with pictures and tidbits of each character not previously known
>All fallout games previously released in individually boxed cases
>stickers
>A documentary about the headaches developers faced and how they solved them
>A nuka-cola light
>A small credit card sized thank you note for supporting them
4f1f44 No.14686846
Look the no disc argument now is going to lead to no home storage argument later. As in you have to stream everything from official online servers or not have access to computer applications.
Of course by the time home storage is banned the west has gone full 1984 with consumer rights.
1020aa No.14686853
>>14686825
>A couple of real life books you can find in the wasteland at least 80 pages of readable content in each book. At least two books.
That would be more fitting in TES, but the books would be tiny
95f7e2 No.14686866
>>14686825
>All books come like this
ddab49 No.14686869
>>14686853
I was just spit balling tbh but pic related.
ddab49 No.14686882
>>14686866
I would personally murder Todd Howard like that youtube lady.
dc489c No.14686891
>>14686824
I'd say 2008 was the year we'd see the first signs of cancer and good games were still common until say 2010 on the fumes of the old era.
I'll take a game from 2008 that I loved like say Saints Row 2 which I adored for its huge amounts of content and work put into it, then just in 2011 SR3 came out that looked prettier but had little content, was entirely based and marketed on LOL SO RANDUMB XD completely missing why people liked the wacky shit in 2 and was just dull to play. 3 years, so much difference.
>>14686825
NV was another one of those great games from the last breath of the old era, it was a lightning in a bottle, can't be made nowadays especially considering the key people left Obsidian.
8bcd1e No.14686912
>>14686295
>Businessmen with acumen increase their capital, branch out, invest in tech, whatever
Yes, a businessman will diversify his business in short sighted pursuit, losing focus on what the core product was. Eventually resulting in long term degredation of the business.
>If their marketing team/the economy, decides $60 is reasonable
>Marketing team
everything wrong with modern corporations. Instead of people knowing their own product making decisions, you have these bozos who look at market trends and copy others. There is no real set price to a game; $60 is only done because everyone else does it in order to maximise profit, not because it's "reasonable".
>they can become more efficient
more efficient at profit
>then why would they remain static in quality and capacity(reducing price) instead of competing on the market with other corporations?
undercutting the competition is a form of "competing on the market", is it not?
>They can increase quality, innovate, and surprisingly maintain a $60 product despite inflation.
"They" is referring to the developers who have zero say in these business decisions. "inflation" is a misinterpretation; whilst the quantity of money has gone up, the quality of everything that you can get at an equivalent price has gone drastically down, quality of life and wealth of the average person is significantly lower than people from the 1980s, why would you say that consumers are greedy for demanding standards?
d9b97b No.14686921
>>14686891
>I'd say 2008 was the year we'd see the first signs of cancer
First signs were already there in 2004 and beyond, 2007 was when the normalfaggotry and lack of standards peaked in due part thanks to the financial crisis.
But yeah, 2008 to 2014 was fucking barren aside from some more obscure gems, and full of garbage and kikery, 7th Gen started off extremely promising and became of one of the worst ones yet.
ffe3a2 No.14686929
>>14686824
You're missing the point.
d9b97b No.14686948
>>14686929
Except I'm not
Like I said, the market is full of shovelware and broken garbage, even more than before, but it was always like this.
c683ae No.14686950
>>14686818
original xbox and ps2. for the ps2, first you get a $15 network adapter, then you get whatever hard drive you wanted back in 2003. Then you run a piece of software and you can even use it to back up saves. So hard. it even has two screws on the back that you can screw in with a quarter.
What are you shilling for with the lies? Only a kike would deliberately spread false information.
>>14686929
He's not very bright in the first place.
80a727 No.14686992
>>14686598
>Games were better when it was an expensive hobby as it priced niggers and turd worlders out
Amusingly it was Steam that started it with their sales. Consoles are actually the first world choice until they get hacked. I can buy P5 for 70 euro and still eat.
dc489c No.14686993
>>14686921
My favorite early 7th gen console game was Dead Rising because it was still made with that optimism and approach to content of the 6th gen but bigger and taking advantage of the new hardware. Then you'd slowly get less and less games like this.
d9b97b No.14687051
>>14686950
>He says while supporting the company that's pushing for interactive movies, SJW Hollyjew movies and streaming games
I might not be very bright, but at least I still retain half of my brain intact unlike yourself.
>>14686993
You nailed it
It's a shame we didn't see more of those because most devs were still tying their games with 6th Gen and the whole chain of events that shat up the whole industry happened only one year after.
Still 2007 was probably one of the best games for vidya, just quality across the board.
95f7e2 No.14687701
>>14686950
fugg you're right
1f54f1 No.14687858
>>14685936
>consoles need to ditch dykes
>>14685906
Is it really M$ or is it just goons?
9b3194 No.14688027
We're doing it PCbros! Soon our Blessed Lord Gaben will finally take over gaming and extinguish all this dumb clunky 90's shit like consoles and physical format!
195f76 No.14688060
>>14687051
>but at least I still retain half of my brain intact unlike yourself.
I really doubt that with a sentence like this, you fucking idiot.
b67f52 No.14688238
a314cc No.14688363
>>14685857
I would only have consoles that are digital only if I could sideload games and application s.
d9b97b No.14688713
>>14688238
Nice VPN console shitter.
b5a4d8 No.14689515
>>14686655
>>People say console digital and PC digital is different
They're only different until the console is patched with CFW and can play pirated games. On the PC, digital is at least somewhat mitigated by the fact that you can downloaded fixed copies of games which don't connect to the official servers and don't receive mandatory patches.
On console, once disks are gone, you're fucked. You either leave what you have installed at all times and stay offline (until online is mandatory), or you accept the "update".
b5a4d8 No.14689530
>>14686775
>I'm pretty sure anything with an HDD can have it replaced.
You can't update/replace the HDD in the Xbox One. If it fails, the console is garbage. There's supposed to be some workarounds, but it's backwards as fuck and you risk nopeing your account and all your data if Microsoft finds out. The only way MS intends for you to update your storage is to plug in external HDDs, which take up a USB port.
The PS4 only somewhat recently (last year) got the ability to use external HDDs, and it has even fewer USB ports to spare, because the average Sony customer is too fucking retarded to just remove a pop-off cover, undo a screw, pop a new HDD on the bracket, and slide it in.
To be fair, there are a few other steps involving data transfer and how you have to load the new OS onto the drive that makes it - while by no stretch of the imagination - difficult, makes it needlessly cumbersome. They'd have been much better off to just sell an over-priced HDD cradle that plugs in via USB and have all the software already built into the PS4 to download the OS, format the drive, transfer all the data over, and whatever other prep-work needs to be done. Then the user could literally just pop the old one out, and then toss the new one in. They could even use the cradle afterwards to plug in the old HDD and use that for a bit of external storage if they wished.
So, just retards all around I guess.
f3dfc8 No.14689608
>>14686116
This. God of Soy spent half its budget on ads on Twitch. One of my coworkers watches Twitch all day. Every fucking ad is for that fucking game, no exaggeration. And it has been that way for at least two months. I've overheard the ads so many fucking times they're stuck in my head and I want to punch that faggot for not using adblock and headphones. I hate that fucking game now because I associate it with work.
7a94a8 No.14689635
>>14685857
this shit will never fly, even the normalfags are wary of "digital only" crap, they give steam a pass cus of the discounts and becos most games there not only can be found elswere but are often low memory fast download indies or ports of games alrready on consoles
consoles on the other hand try to pull this shit, and lord gaven will eat them raw
beside, even the most skilled shill has trouble performing mental gymnastics to deffend truning games from product to service
7101d6 No.14689709
>>14689608
>using Adblock on twitch
Don’t you know you can get banned for that?
243b08 No.14689718
So what's the difference between a console and a gimped PC at this point?
4a24b2 No.14689727
>>14685857
>I collected too many physical things I didn't use because I'm retarded therefore physical things should stop existing
kek. Some kike paid this dumbfuck to shill for the abolition of physical media and this is the best justification he can come up with? Sad. But consoles might as well ditch physical media, in fact I hope they do. It would be a horrible mistake and kill off the console market. Go for it.
704783 No.14689740
>>14689709
Why do you have to log in to watch twitch?
>>14689727
>Implying it wouldn't kill all of vidya
Without consoles, we would life in a world in which the only video games you own are old ones from thrift stores and copies from GoG.
As soon physical is dead, Fahrenheit 541 will become real. This is what it is about.
>>14689718
None whatsoever. The only machine that works similar to a old console and has all the advantages of one is the fucking Switch of all things.
1f0136 No.14689842
>>14686786
That is the interesting part of GOG. Since you can download the game, DRM free, you can easily keep copies of different versions. I think this is why Rockstar will never release GTA there.
3a6198 No.14689972
d9b97b No.14689974
>>14689842
My third world shithole has been sharing the original ripped CD version of Vice City from system to system for over 16 years now.
Take Twos/R* move is retarded.
d9b97b No.14689979
>>14689972
Witch and the Hundred Knight I believe.
3a7ca5 No.14689982
Americans bang on about Digital Downloads being the future. America has the worst internet on Planet Earth with the exception of Australia.
29d7b0 No.14689996
>>14687051
>2007 was probably one of the best games for vidya, just quality across the board.
When a fire goes out it burns as brightly as it can then disappears.
Rest in peace, video games.
4946d6 No.14690003
>>14685857
You know i hate the fact that these people can't see that this shit would never pass, i mean if everything has to be digitized, then how come books aren't extinct yet? Also yes, i'm aware of the fact that book writers are mostly pozzed
I like that these San Fran faggots can't fathom at how the world outside of their bubble works
d9b97b No.14690008
>>14689982
American media and whatever culture they had left is being completely destroyed.
Theres's barely any American videogames or devs worth giving a fuck about thanks to that.
224a99 No.14690015
>>14686383
It used to be the case, and the game companies somehow managed. Reason enough.
3a7ca5 No.14690028
>>14689999
Gets his balls nerfed and is rewarded with the worst console known to man. Has to tell everyone about it.
4a24b2 No.14690034
>>14689740
>Implying it wouldn't kill all of vidya
That would be ideal but sadly it's unrealistic. (((Steam))) proves that eliminating physical media can't actually kill off PC gaming.
8b5052 No.14690045
>>14689999
Checked and this is the only post that account has, most likely fake. The comments are fucking cancer though
412365 No.14690054
>>14686739
>Not to mention no DLC and online patches, developers were actually encouraged to make complete, functional games. It all died after early 7th gen.
Except for the part where, even then, they never patch the damn things. They just release it, "promise" a patch, and then run off.
>>14689972
>>14689979
5c88c8 No.14690072
>>14685879
You shouldn't buy games because they are making more money than ever before and they still want to do scummy bullshit like this.
08622f No.14690086
>>14690054
That example is shit because the actual developers are not at fault.
daceeb No.14690106
>>14687051
The PS2 has been out of production for more than 5 years at this point, with the last game for the platform releasing 4 years ago. No money spent will end up in Sony's hands as a result and thus there is zero reason to signal your virtue over something like this, unless you're one of those retards that fault a company's entire past for recent events.
>>14688027
Steam is and always has been part of the cancer killing gaming. Whether you're being ironic or not, kill yourself. The only good thing to come out of it is the comments section for individual games so people know if a game is shit, and we've had public forums for that since the decline of Usenet.
pic unrelated, but worth posting whenever you get the chance to.
da6f58 No.14690109
>>14690086
Except it isn't a shit example. Just because the original devs aren't at fault doesn't mean the example doesn't work.
d9b97b No.14690125
>>14690106
>PS2
What the fuck are you talking about?
daceeb No.14690168
>>14690125
>What the fuck are you talking about?
>>14686950
>original xbox and ps2. for the ps2…
>>14687051
<He says while supporting the company that's pushing for interactive movies, SJW Hollyjew movies and streaming games
You're implying buying/modding a PS2 in this day and age will result in Sony profiting.
d9b97b No.14690189
>>14690168
Nigger I never refered to that part of his post.
That nigger vehemently defends the PS4 for the only merit it has of being Japanese and yet being released first in the West as consequence of Sony as a whole being increasingly westernized and has done so it countless threads since mid 2016.
Why woulf I imply old consoles mostly bought second hand support the companies that used ro manufacture them?
That's fucking retarded and would be pretty hypocritical considering I recently bought a new PS2 after my phat Silver one died due to a laser reading malfunction that was temporarly fixed for 2 years but inevitably went to shit.
fb88bd No.14690219
>>14689999 (ABSOLUTELY CHECKED)
9470cb No.14690222
i used to like disc only but honestly digital is more convenient not taking physical space in my room. i've been playing since the ps1 era and i dont wanna keep buying things to take more physical space
daceeb No.14690224
>>14690189
Alright, it just looked like that from my perspective since I don't see any point where either of you mentioned the newer console and thought you were referring to the 2.
3d82be No.14690226
>>14689740
>The only machine that works similar to a old console and has all the advantages of one is the fucking Switch of all things.
lol no
>nothing but ports when it comes to third-party "support" since the schizophrenic design of the system make devs unsure if they would be able to create games for the home console audience or handheld audience, thus resorting to "safer" measures
>not to mention lot of small nippon devs rather prefer Playstation systems due to bad blood with Nintendo and Sony's friendlier policies and fees
>third-party multiplatform nippon games seem to sell like shit on the Switch in Japan (confirmed with how Disgaea 5 bombed there at least with less than 5k copies ; Ys8 Switch already sabotaged by NISA's sheer incompetence)
>riddled with Amiibos up the ass
>paid online with features that are exclusive to smartphone users
The vita is the last console machine that actually felt like an old console imho
d9b97b No.14690248
>>14690224
>I didn't see any point by him
Because he was pushing console wars, got banned and all his posts deleted and then started using a VPN while ban evading.
3a6198 No.14690252
>>14689979
>>14690054
Thanks, I'll avoid it. I wonder why the apparent fix that guy on the forum posted was removed though.
0f555b No.14690259
>>14689999
That makes me want to never ever play anymore
d9b97b No.14690280
>>14690252
Pure coincidence goy dood
3a7ca5 No.14690290
>>14690219
>CuckoldCommunity
3d82be No.14690304
>>14690252
>I wonder why the apparent fix that guy on the forum posted was removed though
NISA never fix the shit they localize and throw everything under the carpet, thus expecting the people who complain to go away. NISA didnt expect its practises would blow up in its face one day by messing a Falcom game.
Some faggot apparently reported 8ch to Valve/Steam for accusations of "fake reviews" raid in regards of the Ys8 PC port
8f4785 No.14690625
>>14686948
just now you can actually get an idea of what a game is like before you buy instead of the old fashioned way of looking at the title picture, looking at the name and still having no fucking clue how terrible it is.
fb8b7d No.14690744
>>14690219
>my wife has broken up with him and will be visiting him one last time this weekend to tell him never to contact us and not to lay a finger on me again
This dude's wife went back to get MORE DICK from the guy who raped her husband in the asshole, didn't she?
2fe6af No.14690837
>>14690219
>guy fucks his wife and then fucks him
I'd like to meet the legend who did that.
e3842c No.14690899
>>14686383
People are largely too stupid to pirate physical-only games, while digital-only is as simple as a go-to-this-URL-to-softmod-your-console and an international torrent tracker.
>>14686534
Further justification for piracy right here. Don't buy anything published by Activision either way.
9df713 No.14690931
>>14690054
Did they fixed this shit in ps4 release ?
3a7ca5 No.14691032
>>14691014
That is that secret online DRM Sony doesn't like talking about.
44184c No.14691192
>though console makers have taken tentative steps in this direction, they've been unable to ditch physical media. Understanding why require's a games industry master's degree
Right. Just like it takes a phd in quantum physics to understand why cats bury their shit. I mean, is the nigger serious?
>Hey, it may seem like this push for full digital integration is spearheaded by execs just looking to minimize their spending while charging you more, but I'm a real gamer just like you. Check out my gamer cred: I once owned two whole rooms full of old broken arcade cabinets! The reason I can appreciate the benefits of digital media, while you can't, is because I am so much smarter than you!
71a034 No.14691851
>>14690219
I bet he's too much of a cuck to report the rapist.
2bd2a0 No.14695174
>>14685857
This will be the next battle to be fought for vidya.
5b6df5 No.14695319
Daily reminder digital download was promoted with the promise that it would make games cheaper.
How did that work out?
195f76 No.14695362
>>14695319
the reality is it was an attempt to keep the pc market in relevance and simultaneously use it as an entry point to seize control of the platform.
77096f No.14695370
>>14695319
There's nothing that's cheaper than free so I'd say it worked out pretty well.
d6b4f5 No.14695397
>>14695370
Really, you'd have to pay me to play some of the trash that's coming out now.
158920 No.14695699
>>14689709
I did not. How would they even know?
794d3e No.14695708
>>14695319
Most Japanese games are coming to the platform due to cheap distribution and long term sales, so that's a plus I guess.
9a286d No.14695720
>>14689982
And? You don't know much about the jews, do you.
9bcec8 No.14695724
>>14689982
>America has the worst internet on Planet Earth with the exception of Australia.
Come live in south America a while if you really believe that.
68394c No.14695738
Sure ditch disks but I want the prices to be cheaper then they were pre HD tax where for a £1 more expensive to produce disk prices went up £20 out of no where.
68394c No.14695755
>>14695751
25% isn't good enough friend, straight up more then a third or fuck off tbh.
That never spend more then £20 on a game need a +20 for the HD tax
dd4adb No.14695760
>>14695724
That doesn't count because humans don't live there.
19562f No.14695959
>>14695773
Look at you,trying to start shit,aren't you a funny cunt.
fbacb6 No.14695970
>>downloading 100GB game off shitty cable because you dont live in a walled garden of idiots in town
online only isnt going to happen until everyone has fiber you absolute unit
6dc37d No.14695988
>>14695755
if they get rid of boxed versions of single player games that can be resold the price is only going to go up, not down. say goodbye to $60 games. Instead your going to get a free to play demo that costs $25 followed $20 DLC after $20 DLC until they milk it dry and repeat with the next aids they push out.
04f97f No.14695998
Consoles need to ditch existence.
And I'll never buy digital anyway if physical exists, because if all I "own" for my money is data on a hard drive, I might as well pirate it.
c211c6 No.14696084
Broke:
>Consoles need to ditch discs and embrace digital downloads
Woke:
>Consoles need to ditch discs and embrace floppy discs
1faf39 No.14696134
>>14696084
>Twitter
Kill yourself Redditor
>>14696112
Mutt is an unfunny cuckchan meme and you're so fuckung dumb you're calling yourself an Amerimongrel.
t. Meditteranean
feb42c No.14696259
>>14695998
You didn't read EULA just clicked "yes", aren't you? You don't own "physical" too.
dd4adb No.14696393
>>14696259
>acquire the disc/cartridge and play it on the bing bing wahoo machine
>EULA
>clicking
What the fuck are you talking about
7c6789 No.14699146
>>14690931
I don't think it's in that release of the game. But get it used if you must get it. Also the second game just came out. But there's no clue on how fucked it is. Here's a review if you care.
http://operationrainfall.com/2018/04/13/review-witch-and-the-hundred-knight-2/
6161ba No.14699208
>>14689999
>Getting a vasectomy.
>Telling people about it.
Checked.
d16713 No.14699579
>>14689709
Well they haven't banned me for using mpv on streams yet. I only watch a GDQ stream when they're out in hopes one will be good again. So far they aren't.
f11649 No.14701227
>>14690219
>There's some deranged people in our little community
>Some
9cf2ca No.14701446
Even as a goodgoy who supports intellectual property rights, this is complete bullshit. Might as well legalize piracy as a legitimate means of media archival since the companies suck at doing that themselves.
53deb0 No.14701469
>>14685857
>I owned one of the country's largest personal collections
>I sold everything off, freeing myself in a way even current ebay prices cna't make me regret
kek seller's remorse CONFIRMED. This must be the way he deals with knowing he could have been rich, but instead he's just a loser who writes video game articles
3ee637 No.14701502
>>14701469
You are fucking retarded if you think you can make money off a speculation market unless you're actively trying to manipulate it yourself, it's a scam designed to fuck you over.
8c1978 No.14701545
>>14685857
Yes, yes!!! Get banned for posting having forbidden opinions and lose all your games! That'll teach those little bastids not to be racist :^)
400235 No.14701559
>>14685857
>Faggot from a faggot site banging on about ditching discs. Obviously a paid Valve shill.
Nintendo ditched discs. They went back to carts. Now they have a smash hit console. As shit as it is God of War is its selling fucking insanely on Ps4 without taking into account digital sales. Wonder how Gabe is taking these facts. The digital download meme is starting to die and the corrupt media is doing its best to spin its shitty agenda.
d0bd22 No.14701562
>>14685906
>nintendo and sony said as recently as last week 'physical is here to stay'
well at least they're doing something right, the one downside to PC currently is the fact that even if you buy the physical disk in store all it is is a .exe file and it pisses me the fuck off. I hate digital only but its the only choice for PC
ea76f5 No.14704134
I think people want DRM free digital downloads, not DRM always online Xbox One shit. That's what I want when I think digital downloads, and thank fuck we have GOG giving that to us. Also makes modding games a hell of a lot easier and more convenient without shitty DRM or being reliant on a client like Steam if you need to reinstall a game for some reason.
The only big thing I hate is when a game or series gets remastered or remade, and the original versions of the games are locked behind a paywall for the more recent rendition of the game that costs more than the original would if it were a standalone purchase. That's really shitty and will just lead to people pirating the fuck out of those games for not giving us the purchase options we want, ala Beamdog and their stupid shit with those old D&D RPGs, or Gearbox with the Homeworld games. Beamdog and Gearbox can go get fucked.
e77ef8 No.14704337
>>14704134
Not to mention that those remasters are fucking garbage. You can get anything the Shitdog "enhanced" edition offers with mods. Even major changes like being able to play BG with all the added classes, weapons, spells etc. that BG2 gives you can be done with a mod, quality of life changes as well.
b5a6fc No.14704453
Actually I wouldn't mind.
Official copies has set price at above 60$. This generally sets a game cost at 60$ and keeps it this way.
Steam without much bother about physical copies sees game price rapidly dropping even a month after release. It is not that weird to see month old game at -50% during some sale. It is a rule you will eventually be able to buy everything from any bundle for pennies. Meanwhile PS3 games, unless abundant still maintain at least 50% of their price because they are physical items.
And yes bundles are already happening for consoles (don't actually buy from IGNs Humble Bundle.):
https://www.humblebundle.com/games/capcom-sega-psn?hmb_source=navbar&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=tile_index_1
Lets speed it up. Lets make sure all of the games available on console are worth as much as these. Lets make sure every single game on console will be devalued as fast as it is on steam.
4bb46a No.14704459
>>14704453
Console owners would mind faggot. Shill valve somewhere else.
b5a6fc No.14704499
>>14704459
I want developers and console manufacturers to make as little money as they can.
How is this fucking positive shit to shill?
a0c89e No.14704518
>>14704499
>I want japanese games to fucking die and Steam to fuck everyone in the ass (either be consumers as well as developers) with its predominance on the PC market
Yeah fuck off too. You're either a shill or one of those PC mustard retards.
b5a6fc No.14704530
>>14704518
Or I can be a pirate like 90% of this site. I can also want to ditch consoles because they shit deal for everybody involved but obviously it means I am Valve shill because PC = Steam.
a0c89e No.14704547
>>14704530
Yeah anon you can go back to your piracy safe space, and watch the world burn. Again it's not like a huge company like Valve has ever changed the PC platform or anything. Just stay in your little bubble alright?
Clearly, faggots who want consoles to die and then use the "just ignore steam and pirate games" excuse because they want big daddy Valve to have absolute control in the gaming industry (and shit on any alternatives because not muh steam). For how much you cry about modern gaming being shit, you sure do want to kill anything left from traditional vidya in a globalist-like way.
064158 No.14704551
>>14704530
It's not because of that anon, but because you're forgetting about normalfags. While this site is smart enough to pirate, normalfags aren't. If physical were to ever be dropped anons wouldn't be affected too much because most already pirate, but normalfags would absolutely eat that shit up and take the resulting ass fucking from the companies with a smile. They would take it even further and berate you if you aren't also willing to take the assfuck with them.
I went as far as manually installing a bittorrent client, giving them a go-to list of good torrent search engines/sites with priorities and instructions attached, and a guide on how to spot and avoid obviously suspicious torrents. I hand wrote and compiled everything myself and personally installed the clients on each of their machines and all but 1 ended up dropping it within a few weeks and returning to steam like the good goys that they were, because it was more convienent that way and just werks. Serves me right for believing normalfags could be redeemed.
8e3191 No.14704561
>>14704547
You don't know how it was like playing games on the PC in this century before Steam came along. Shelves in stores were all World of Warcraft or old games and they were small compared to console shelves.
dac461 No.14704598
I'm not a 3rd worlder or American. I have a stable uncapped 100-150Mb connection.
But Sony servers don't take advantage of my connection, so downloading a 80Gb games takes hours. In contrast the nearest game store is a 500 meter walk. And lo and behold the goddamn game is €10 cheaper!
So your future is kinda shit.
b5a6fc No.14704629
>>14704547
Well I was trying to point out how wrong you most likely are just assuming random stuff about people. You just assumed I am pirate after I pointed out fact most people here are pirates.
And all of this because if you would assume second is true, you would be unable to talk shit about me. I am amazed.
6810b0 No.14704645
>>14685857
They kind of already have that ability thanks to DRM.
7614d2 No.14704648
>>14704598
>meter
If you're not American then at least spell it correctly, it's metre.
6810b0 No.14704649
>>14685896
Can I see that uncensored?
064158 No.14704659
>>14704649
It's a simple reverse image search away anon.
c707a8 No.14704728
>>14685857
Oh wow. Have people remain stuck with a locked up brick of a system with limited space and even abysmal download/upload speed depending where they're at. Also the sad part about it is. These Consoletards are going to defend this shit and not say there's anything wrong with it.
>>14686051
Sounding very assblasted there.
>>14685949
Says the person trying to turn another's opinion into a shit-flinging contest.
677373 No.14704749
>>14701446
>supports intellectual property rights
29939e No.14704771
>>14701559
>God of War is its selling fucking insanely on Ps4
>The digital download meme is starting to die
Nice sources
>>14704518
>>14704547
Consoles dying would lead to more computer hardware manufacturers and Steam competing digital services.
>Japanese games would die
Now this is just delusional rethoric
b93d99 No.14704787
>>14704771
Take it with a grain of salt I just happen to find this screenshot while browsing. I'm not convinced it's selling as well it says too.
aaefde No.14704798
>>14704787
>>14704771
Not only did Labo outsell GoW in Nipland, it outsold it 2:1. So something good did come out of Nintendo Cardboard.
c97d9e No.14704803
>>14704787
I saw someone build the robot kit. It took them 8 hours to assemble it. The game itself lasted about 5 minutes.
What a fucking scam.
aaefde No.14704811
>>14704803
The only real fun to be had with Labo is making your own things, like that one guy who made Game and Watch Ball with it. Vid related. But the included games all look like absolute dogshit.
d9b97b No.14704827
>>14704787
>>14704798
Domestic sales don't mean shit with these worldwide releases Goy of War apparently topped Britbongistan charts and Sony shilled this accordingly.
Don't know about other regions and this series thankfully never appealed to the Japanese.
aaefde No.14704836
>>14704827
>Goy of War apparently topped Britbongistan charts
Not surprising, Europoors love Sony for some reason. Nintendo was never popular there.
American sales would be interesting, shame they're not tracked.
d9b97b No.14704872
>>14704836
Atari and Nintendo never marketed themselves over in Europe before or after the crash.
People stuck around hokme computers until Sega made a push there with the Genesis Mega Drive, the only Nintendo handhelds are popular in Europe and even then the DS and Vita just died off.
Sega was replaced with Sony when they also made a big push in Europe and the Saturn was barely advertised outside Japan.
Most people here who played vidya at the time don't even know what a Saturn is, that's how badly Sega fucked up.
Buth yeah, Europe ia dominated by Sony and PC and neither Nintendo or Xbox have been able to dent that.
c97d9e No.14704885
>>14704811
"Make your own fun!"
aaefde No.14704892
>>14704872
At least here locally in Slavland, the 360 did better because the PS3 at the time cost around two months worth of salary if not more. The PS4 bounced right back, though.
53deb0 No.14704906
>>14701502
>speculation
It's supply and demand, simple as that lmao. The only 'speculating' going on is with very rare games with less than 1000 copies.