34999d No.14679962
>http://archive.is/zaopK
So it looks like Destiny 2 is such a catastrophic failure in terms of poisoning the brand to normalfags and player retention that they have pulled the breaks on Destiny 3 and their 'ten year plan' to bring the entire company in to try and salvage this half a billion dollar critical flop.
Have you ever seen a dev panic to this magnitude before? even once? this is beyond FFXIV's ARR levels of damage control.
d9461a No.14679973
>>14679962
But muh 10-year Destiny-verse plan!
0e58eb No.14679977
Wasn't the first game meant to last for ten years?
34999d No.14679985
>>14679977
contractually they have to release one on disc retail release every year for ten years. they just 'massaged the narrative' to make shooter cucks think it was one persistent release.
d9461a No.14679988
>>14679977
Yes, because following the retarded decade-lone franchise plan reveal like what Marvel does with their formulatic shit movies was a good idea, it's not like they had to cut a lot of content on the first game, and not ride on just using hype to fuck with players not expecting Halo meets Borderlands of daily droning content.
22ecca No.14680000
>>14679977
I wanna do questionable things to that robot.
0e58eb No.14680005
>>14680000
Don't you fuc-
>80000
Quadsman, don't use your power to be gay with the robot, please.
955a87 No.14680006
>>14680000
Answer this question: WHY? What specifically is so sexually appealing about it?
0e58eb No.14680011
>>14679988
Most of the games that have lasted longer than ten years were never meant to, like TF2. When they released that back in '07 I doubt they thought it would still be going strong in 2018.
It's sheer luck whether a game lasts that long or not, you can't force it.
22ecca No.14680021
>>14679977
He's cute and his flustered blushing as he moans is adorable.
>>14680011
>you can't force it.
Tell that to any suits high up, they refuse to listen.
22ecca No.14680026
>>14680021
First reply meant for >>14680006
cca428 No.14680092
>all they had to do was rip off borderlands.
>couldn't even do that right.
>takes 20 hours just to move things in the engine they got.
I still hate the names in this game.
8ea063 No.14680134
>anything good from activision
>bungie post microsoft
>console shooters
>esports pvp meme
>microtransactions
battle royal is the new overhyped meme. cod royale, bf royale, cant wait to see another overhyped bullshit.
d9461a No.14680163
>>14680011
They forgot to gauge player retention, this was overhyped, then the leaks and employee resignations where they revealed they had a huge scope of the game, but Studio politics and the kikes in Bungie preferred to cut corners and go with the Memelands + WoW shit, because that's a full proof plan to milk retards!
1feeaa No.14680184
>>14680134
I'm so glad companies are losing money because of this shit. Game Devs (or the producers that game devs work for, could be either group that is responsible) deserve to go bankrupt if they follow 'trends' and make video games following said 'trends' rather than make video games out of passion/love of the industry. It's so fucking obvious the games they make aren't designed to last long - never mind the fact most of 'em have that always online bullshit.
8ea063 No.14680257
>>14680184
yeah one of the best examples of "too late for a hype train" is cliffy
>too late for hero arena moba trash
>too late for battle royale twitch trash
lmao. I bet his next game will be either a card game or a VR game.
11e597 No.14680310
>>14680184
> of the industry
Fuck the industry. All games should be made for the craft itself and not the corporate complex that surrounds it.
23d4e8 No.14680381
>>14680184
All the cancerous industry heads who wanted video games to become movies got their wish. There is a sizable portion of vidya now in which everything is so focus-grouped that creativity is fucking dead. It's just like Hollywood hammering the same trend repeatedly until the market is over-saturated with the same shit.
We get endless comic book movies and we get endless battle royale survival games.
37e232 No.14680402
>>14680000
Quads demand it.
781ade No.14680430
>>14679996
Please stop shillings this shitty game filled with bugs that haven't been fixed in three or more years. You did the same in the previous Destiny thread and it didn't work, stay in your containment thread
a6bff5 No.14680457
>>14680257
One of the only decent things about this modern generation of gamers is their remarkably short attention span. New game fads like hero shooters and the like seem to only last around 6 months to a year, even with AAA studios working on it there is very little chance of them shitting out a half assed copycat in time to ride the wave.
406a83 No.14680473
>>14679977
So is he just rubbing a blank crotch
22ecca No.14680483
>>14680473
No, itty bitty benis
845277 No.14680486
>>14679962
>"This is great fucking news. All hands on deck is what we’ve wanted and bungie understands that."
The absolute state of Bungo fans.
62ce23 No.14680508
>>14680483
Itty bitty boat?
46d860 No.14680519
I completely forgot it existed and got shilled super hard until a few days ago when I went to my local video game store.
There were more used copies of Destiny 2 in the bargain bin than outdated sports games and No Mans Sky
845277 No.14680525
So Bungo is trying to pull another "Rise of Iron" with the September DLC? They can't do nothing and pull that shit with every new Destiny game they make. One day people will stop buying their cinematic experience.
26c8dc No.14680539
>>14680519
The pathetic part is that the cucks that made No Man's Sky put more effort in the post release than Bungie did. NMS didn't become a good game, let alone a complete one, but it's pathetic that a dozen soyboys can put in more effort than a studio backed by Activision, with hundreds of employees, working on a project with a budget of half a billion dollars.
406a83 No.14680550
>>14680483
I 'unno, I can't imagine someone gripping a cock the way the boi he's with is gripping his groin. Plus you don't see a ballsack or anything in the view of his rear.
7b6cb6 No.14680566
>>14679977
It was just phrased incorrectly. It was a ten year contract with Activision to make four Destiny games, but they're already off schedule.
22ecca No.14680568
>>14680550
He's not grabbing it
He's rubbing it, it's very itty
c68008 No.14680616
Destiny 2 is a fantastic example of developer hubris. Destiny 1 was an absolute disaster of a launch, but was generally accepted as reaching it's apex by the second and third years of it's life. Huge community of normalfags and an unbelievably devoted core of players with multiple grinds. In a industry where AAA game releases are being pushed in your face, Destiny somehow remained relevant. Destiny's illusion of depth and POTENTIAL fooled a shitton of people, but Bungie managed to get rid of literally everything people liked about the prequel for accessibility. By dumbing down a game that was ALREADY dumbed down for casuals/retards, it's no wonder it's a dumpster fire, now there's nothing to keep anyone interested in the long-term development, leading to the hemorrhage of the playerbase, unlike the first game. It's the easiest "Casuals are ruining games" excuse next to walking simulators and "cinematic experiences", as it's easy to digest and fresh to the minds of masses, unlike a more traditional comparison. Destiny was an accidental success riding off the studio's popularity, despite mismanagement and delays. Destiny 2 shows the true incompetence and greed of the game designers for failing to understand their core audience (an unlikely alliance of chads and autists) in the hopes of bigger profits through mircotransactions and player trust, and regressing their own progress on a series. How bad does your game have to be when your entire fanbase unilaterally revolts against you?
I don't think it's comparable in the same way to FFXIV, at least not in terms of failure. Probably in the "too big to fail" mentality though. FFXIV initially failed due to too many teams developing their own thing without considering the project as a whole. Modeling, Time>Reward economies, performance and optimization, general lack of prospective of the MMO market post-WoW/FFXI, there are a lot of things that FFXIV did poorly, but I think it was more arrogance on the part of the development team, rather than actual malice or jewry. Since it's built of the corpse of it's former self though, I'm pretty sure the code debt on FFXIV must be larger than I can imagine. The fact that it's so successful now it a miracle, we will never see a comeback like that again. What I would give to be a fly on the wall during 1.0's development and subsequent mercy killing.
Why can't people just release games that are not trash at the start, instead of fixing it over the course of months or even YEARS?
202db7 No.14680644
>>14680616
>Why can't people just release games that are not trash at the start, instead of fixing it over the course of months or even YEARS?
how about the reverse
d9461a No.14680657
>>14680616
The FF14 ARR managed to salvage and break even within 8 months after the relaunch, I don't see how Bungie could salvage this shit, they even got Blizzard to shill it to their drones, still not fucking enough according to Activision.
cca428 No.14680663
>>14680616
You know if bungie decided to just shut down D2 and rebuild it from the ground up like how FFXIV did it I would respect them for that. Not gonna happen, its already surprising how bad FFXIV 1.0 was and the fact that they completely tore it down and rebuilt it was just fucking weird. Good kind of weird at least.
845277 No.14680737
>>14680616
>Destiny 2 shows the true incompetence and greed of the game designers for failing to understand their core audience (an unlikely alliance of chads and autists) in the hopes of bigger profits through mircotransactions and player trust, and regressing their own progress on a series.
I agree. The failure of D2 is the game designers and the director's fault. Noseworthy wanted to streamline everything. Apparently he didn't even know how to play the first game, the fat bearded guy with the glasses (I forgot his name) had to tell him everything. They've hired a new bunch of writers who have no interest in science fiction or fantasy, they're in charge of the story and the lore (most didn't gave a shit and rewrote it to fit their fanfictions). That's why the tone radically changed from "epic science fantasy story" of D1 to "Joss Whedon quips" in D2. There's a youtuber who used to make a lot of lore videos (his name is "Joker" or something like that) and he got blocked on Twitter by the writers after he wrote essays about how none of the characters acted like they were supposed to.
When the rumors of the tumultuous development of D2 became official, their excuse for going full microtransactions was to say that it was too hard to come up with new interesting stories for the main game and its DLCs. It's quite worrying, coming from Bungo.
>It's the easiest "Casuals are ruining games" excuse
That's the thing: they've casualized Destiny and no casual bought it because the setting doesn't appeal to the casual.
>How bad does your game have to be when your entire fanbase unilaterally revolts against you?
It happened during Christmas I think. There was a whole thing with people spamming a hashtag in the forums and Bungo's answer was to change the rules of their official forums, now the only people who are allowed to post are those who own Destiny 2 and have finished the first mission. I've heard that if people have technical issues and couldn't finish the mission then they can't ask for help in the support forum.
a8cfe4 No.14680743
2419f1 No.14680761
Isn't Destiny the game where the level editor takes so long to load they have to do it overnight and then saving your changes takes hours too?
>>14680743
And this. Despite denials, Destiny 1 cost $500M to make, $100M more than the real actual cost of Tortanic.
11e597 No.14680769
>>14680616
>>14680657
>>14680663
I'm still convinced people only cared about 14 because catgirls and because WoW was so much worse at the time.
4bc44c No.14680786
>>14679996
Warframe got a point. For grindan gaem making 2nd, 3rd etc releases of the same game are slap to players face.
>were ground all this for nothing?
>again?
Also it highlights skinner box nature of the genre. Its should be avoided.
845277 No.14680807
>>14680761
>Isn't Destiny the game where the level editor takes so long to load they have to do it overnight and then saving your changes takes hours too?
True. Also the few remaining devs who were at Bungie during Halo can't stop pissing the new people off by saying "you know, I worked on Halo, I know how to do X" and slow down everything.
d9461a No.14680813
>>14680769
The game was a gigantic piece of shit at launch, the director at the the time didn't even play any MMOs or even do basic research back then, the game was archaic in game design or a FF11 without the updates that streamlined the tediousness of MMOs, like a workable auction house or mailing system, now it's pretty much what they promised it to, the Squeenix President and Board were panicking and made a new team to fix everything up again, it was pretty miraculous, which is why there so many Phoenix summon memes for the game. But I don't see CURRENT YEAR Bungie do anything for Destiny 2, they are fucked.
d08a97 No.14680814
>>14680761
>level editor takes multiple hours to load
How do you fuck up that hard? It it loading absolutely everything at once?
11e597 No.14680825
>>14680813
I know that, but the relaunch wasn't very good either. It just had the fortune of going up against WoW worst content drought and expansion launch in it's lifespan.
d9461a No.14680842
>>14680825
The only thing they did right, was not go on all about being a WoW-killer and just did their own thing, it pretty much worked very well, and WoWdrones are junkies who invested too much in that daily chore game. Two things I wished Squeenix would do, get better fucking tech and customer support along with having non-retarded and passive aggressive staff of turds they can't control, and they are slowly pandering to those screeching retards in reddit who celebrated that all gender locked costumes could be used by anyone now.
11e597 No.14680856
>>14680842
The 14 fanbase does seem to reek of the tumblrite smell. I think all of the steampunkesque aesthetic brought them in.
0e58eb No.14680864
d9461a No.14680866
>>14680856
There's a lot of fujoshits and real life autists in that game, if it's not drama, it's obnoxious tumblr dykes.
11e597 No.14680873
>>14680866
I just really don't remember 11 having this problem. Whether or not it was the game itself or there being other things like Ragnarok and Maplestory to contain them I don't know.
2419f1 No.14680877
>>14680814
Yes, it's that but also lots more. Imagine if every single thing is done in a stupid way. For example reconnecting to a database every time anything is read or written, reopening and reparsing xml files for every value, having no caching at all, using brute force algorithms for everything, opening and decompressing every texture in full just to get its meta data rather than just parsing the headers, etc, the list goes on. Likely runs out of memory and thrashes the paging file the entire time too. Finally the whole structure and layout of the engine is simply not designed to be conveniently changed.
I don't think normal people understand how bad pajeet / diversity / numale "programmers" are. They are sheer brutality of their ignorance and stupidity is nightmarish.
4724c6 No.14680886
Won't see me crying over loot'n'shoots getting put on the shelf. I'd go as far to say it's an inherently terrible genre
d08a97 No.14680887
>>14680877
I dont even know how pajeet programmers make something this terrible.
11e597 No.14680890
>>14680877
Most of them just CTRL-V shit they see on outdated yahoo answers pages.
d9461a No.14680892
>>14680873
FF11 was pretty tight and contained within itself, probably because internet was pretty much not normalfag friendly back then.
>>14680886
Just pissing on a terminal game on life-support, there was potential, but they had to go the Memelands route.
2419f1 No.14680936
>>14680887
It's because they don't care about anything. Anyone can write a terrible bit of code but only higher IQ white people have the sense of honour or doing things right that's needed to go back and fix it. Obviously loading a level should not take ten or more hours but lower IQ people and those with cultural issues of laziness or face can simply ignore it. They don't feel guilt and they don't thnk "I can do better". They'll only fix things if forced or threatened.
0e58eb No.14680953
2419f1 No.14680958
b8838f No.14680975
>>14679962
>via reddit: some stream fag who claims to have spoken to some in-the-know fag says destiny 3 never
>archive already contains denials from said streamfag
Nice source. Reported.
cc0428 No.14681005
>>14679962
Threadly reminder that Bungie has never made a good FPS.
Their only achievement was to make a playable FPS on console, Halo itself being a piece of trash compared to the FPS standards of the day (in 2001 came out Serious Sam, Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Operation Flashpoint, Tribes 2, Aliens vs. Predator 2) and all subsequent titles being worse than the first one.
7e73b9 No.14681010
>>14680769
I think 14 got many new players during WoD, not sure how popular it is now though. I never got into it because the character designs don't really appeal to me. Something about Eastern MMOs bothers me in general, especially when they try to mimic Western themes. The only one I ever really got into was SMT: Imagine. What little of Ragnarok I played seemed alright, too.
11e597 No.14681018
>>14681010
14 feels like a Chinese knockoff of 11 to me. Hell, at launch half of the buildings looked like placeholder shit that wouldn't have been out of place in EQ2.
e7ec56 No.14681081
>>14680616
>Since it's built of the corpse of it's former self though, I'm pretty sure the code debt on FFXIV must be larger than I can imagine. The fact that it's so successful now it a miracle, we will never see a comeback like that again. What I would give to be a fly on the wall during 1.0's development and subsequent mercy killing.
I never paid any attention to either FF MMO. Do you mind pointing me in the direction where I can read about this? I never knew they just remade the entire damn game because the first one was so broken/poorly balanced.
cca428 No.14681115
>>14681081
The short version is that
>game is announced
>game devs are so confident its gonna be a smash hit they laugh at critics
>game comes out and its so poorly optimized that even high end computers can only barely run it
>no auction house, no mail system, have to go out in the middle of nowhere to grind mobs and leves.
>leves are just more mob grinding
>in desperation they make it so you dont have to pay monthly anymore.
>company CEO apologizes for how shit the game is
>lead dev who has been in square for 20+ years leave company out of shame.
>new team with Yoshi p
>tries to fix the game
>they cant because its just fundamentally shit.
>have a huge ingame event where the main villain succeeds in destroying the world with a meteor
>game is shut down after a year of patching.
>start work on a new wow clone called FFXIV a realm reborn
>its alright, which automatically makes it 100 times better.
>currently mid way through its second expansion.
2288bb No.14681119
>>14681115
The game is so inoffensive it makes it good just because there is no competition.
3ceb5f No.14681130
>>14680887
Accumulation of many small mistakes/inefficient choices across a massive team working for years. Big mistakes can get caught and corrected, but when the whole program is just a pile of minor problems it becomes impossible to fix once it reaches a certain scale.
c68008 No.14681136
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14681081
>>14681115
If you'd like a more in-depth analysis, there was a pseudo-documentary made about it. I found it pretty fascinating.
cca428 No.14681137
>>14681115
I wanna expand on
>Fundamentally shit
to sell something in 1.0 you had to bring up a small window, which takes 5 seconds, then choose your item, wait another 5 seconds, click confirm, and then after 5 seconds its sold. the reason why it takes 5 seconds between each window is because the game is coded in a way where even if you have a top of the line PC directly connected with the server it still has to wait 5 seconds. Apparently there was no way to fix it.
11e597 No.14681284
>>14681137
That was in 11 as well. It was actually intentional so as to keep the game at a slower pace and facilitate text chat, or so they claimed. To an extent it works but it's retarded when there's a delay for even the most basic shit and enemies aren't even effected by it. For example, in 11 it's literally impossible to get a hit on an enemy that aggroed you before it hits you. Not hard, or tricky ; just mathematically impossible.
65f3a8 No.14681332
>>14680519
Hilariously, Monster Hunter World put the final nail in Destiny's poorly made coffin. So many normalfags got pissed off by their lootbox shit, right around the time they were burning Battlefront 2 at the stake for it's kikery, and some faggots immediately started pushing MHW as the new "Lifestyle game" to replace it, because it had no lootboxes.
781ade No.14681347
>>14681136
>noclip
>literally a friend and defender of Zoe
>made a mini documentary on FMV games where he interviewed Zoe despite her game being far for completion
Please stop
7c8979 No.14681351
>>14681332
>MHW as the new "Lifestyle game"
Thank god I hate Monster Hunter or I'd be upset about this. Fuck my life
2c707f No.14681369
>mfw Bungie will die within this decade and will hurt (((Activision))) badly
9d8123 No.14681373
Halo has done more to fuck up the FPS genre than any other shooter, so I really don't see why people suck Bungies cock so much.
Oh, right, console people.
514902 No.14681436
>>14680887
Programming is easy. Making efficient, elegant code that works properly consistently and isn't wasteful with resources is hard.
b9511b No.14681474
>>14680616
I was shocked they had the balls with FF14 to actually stand up and say "This game is shit, we are sorry. We're going to fix it."
Can you imagine a western devteam doing that? I can't
d3348f No.14681485
>>14679962
christ, it's not hard to make games that don't suck.
great games are hard, sure. but fuck.
d3348f No.14681490
7a4434 No.14681495
>>14681332
I see you watched that orange&teal thumbnail shills video too.
2c707f No.14681496
>>14681485
Game industry is drowned in marxism and judaism, that's why they're unable to create anything barely acceptable.
b9511b No.14681516
>>14681490
You're saying you can see Bioware do that?
d3348f No.14681519
>>14681369
blizzard is trying too.
>>14681496
a few years ago, i would've said you're retarded, but honest to fuck considering marxism is what they teach in college, you're almost certainly right.
you bet your fucking ass there will be a book published called "how to make games without mean critics and people who give you money hurting your feelings".
d3348f No.14681520
>>14681516
well, no, but when someone says something like that i think they're a weeb and get triggered.
2e6c73 No.14681533
>>14679962
Good, let it burn, I remember my dumb ass friends getting upset at me for not buying into this shit.
b575e2 No.14681540
>>14680000
Calm yourself quadsGuy
9213ce No.14681552
>>14681533
My marriage restricts me from enjoying this, but she looks lusty.
c68008 No.14681559
>>14681347
Yeah, sorry for typing "FFXIV documentary" into a search engine and using the first thing that showed up that I recognized with developer insight instead of fanmade garbage, hooking it to avoid giving a view.
Should've gone through it myself and separated each developer interview and factual information into webms entirely divorced from a literally who, who is also friends with a slutty literally who, or better yet, go through the 1.0 legacy forums and post overviews of each patch from a consumer perspective, and how it affected the game as a whole. Might actually do that some day, wonder if there's a legacy server somewhere.
0e58eb No.14681561
>>14681552
Anon, fuck your wife instead of getting hard at some 2D furry thot.
11dfd7 No.14681576
>>14680000
Sex with robots is sinful! The bible says Adam and Eve, not Florence and the Machine.
37d2e1 No.14681584
>>14681332
What the fuck is a life style game?!
a179d6 No.14681601
>>14681533
>that filename
god damn it, pixiv
0e58eb No.14681602
>>14681576
That robot's looking pretty small down there.
e7ec56 No.14681619
>>14681533
Source? I can't find anything on iqdb and I don't have a pixiv account.
ac149e No.14681637
0e58eb No.14681640
>>14681619
The artist's name is リコセ if that's any help.
62ce23 No.14681646
>anon posts one kemo slut
>thread derailed
Loving every laugh
>>14681619
Rikose
65f3a8 No.14681652
>>14681584
It's what normalfag retards call games that engage in gachashit and kike mechanics with daily missions, lots of grinding, and rare loot… and lootboxes and cash shop shit. Essentially, it's a game that idiots find themselves playing for hundreds of hours because of a shitty, broken gameplay loop that requires that they run the same shit over and over to get enough shards or crystals or special credits to get loot boxes to maybe unlock one component or blueprint for some special weapon which will be made obsolete in the meta by the time the next update rolls around.
2c707f No.14681666
>>14681519
>blizzard is trying too.
Nothing would make me so happy than (((Blizzkike))) kicking the bucket. Pics kinda related.
680cff No.14681684
>>14679962
Wasn't the 1st one a complete catastrophe? Why did they think a 2nd one would be any better?
41e16d No.14681697
>>14681684
the first one had significant player dropoff but still had a sizable number of retard dudebros who stuck with it and played actively up until destiny 2
e7d5c5 No.14681704
>>14681474
Probably the only decent thing Square's done in the last 15 years. Doesn't excuse all the other horrible shit they've been doing.
26c8dc No.14681709
>>14681666
These people are vermin. They're everywhere, and everywhere they go they do harm.
37d2e1 No.14681718
>>14681652
So time wasters that eat away at your wallet? Why don't they just play phone games for that garbage?
fa8804 No.14681723
>>14681718
They do whenever they're out.
fa8804 No.14681729
>Destiny
>Lootboxes
I know someone who swears up and down Destiny has no pay for gameplay affecting RNG shop.
fa8804 No.14681735
>>14681729
I just remembered. They eventually admitted one existed, but said everything gotten from it is useless after level 10, so they ignored it.
88b4b4 No.14681960
>>14681729
Yup, I know that guy too. Used to play Halo 2 and 3 with him. Complete dudebro who's never played a real RPG, let alone an MMO, and so is bedazzled by the shiny skinner boxes, gear customization, and level up mechanics - nor can he yet distinguish them from P2W mechanics which keeps him buying lootboxes for gear and boosts in games in lieu of getting skilled. It really is just WoW for Chads.
Last time we hung out and played games, he kept trying to sell me on D2 which would require me to buy an Xbox One and pay for XBL because that's all he plays on, and then doesn't understand how I don't think it's the greatest thing ever when I tell him to fuck off with that shit - I got it out of my system years ago with FFXI and PSO.
9f9fe4 No.14682113
>>14681115
is FFXIV free to play? i need an MMO
ab44a9 No.14682141
>>14682113
pretty sure it's sub.
11e597 No.14682149
>>14681718
It's rather understated just how addicted your average normalfaggot is to gaming. They throw around all the loser and wasting time insults merely as projection.
82e6bb No.14682162
Remember Activision anon?
88b4b4 No.14682173
>>14682141
Honestly, at this point, I'd rather just pay a subscription than deal with "free" games designed to bilk you with lootboxes and cash-shop shit. If nothing else, it'd be a psychological filter to weed out at least a quarter to 50% of the retards who would otherwise pollute the servers. People will recoil at the idea of having to pay $10~$15 monthly, but will happily lay down $30 for bundle of virtual currency that won't last them a week.
At least with a subscription based game, the game is designed with a simple grind and with a mind to stay somewhat fun in order to encourage recurrent subscriptions. They don't just crank the grind up to 11, throw as many hurdles in your path as possible to encourage you to pay to avoid, and introduce a dozen different currencies in-game to obfuscate just how badly your nuts are being squeezed in a vice.
ab44a9 No.14682182
>>14682173
that'd be great if sub games were any fucking better than f2p and didn't just use the extra money to buy more 11 year old boys prostitutes.
11e597 No.14682196
>>14682173
Every sub MMO has microtransactions and daily limit bullshit now anyway so there's hardly much of a difference anymore.
b64aa6 No.14682231
In my terminally sparse PS4 library I bought The Taken King and found it decent for what it was. It didn't blow me away or anything, but I found a decent couple of people to play it with an had a lot of fun with them. I skipped out on Rise of Iron because it looked like blatant cuckoo pandering making the leader of the Viking style faction a nigger.
88b4b4 No.14682256
>>14682196
>Every sub MMO has microtransactions and daily limit bullshit now anyway so there's hardly much of a difference anymore.
Well, if it wasn't obvious enough, I haven't played an MMO for longer than 15 minutes since 2005. I have no idea why, but I've been having a massive urge to play EQOA for awhile now - but I can't imagine myself sticking with it for longer than a month, even if there were a free private server.
ab7703 No.14682258
>>14681533
Fucksake /v/, first you tried to turn me gay with trap posting, now you are trying to turn me into a fucking furry.
0f74be No.14682293
POST YFW YOU DIDN'T BUY DESTINY
11e597 No.14682302
>>14682256
You haven't missed much. The entire genre went to shit in 2007 when WoW added daily quests and it's only been downhill from there.
78a36e No.14682313
>>14681697
That's not surprising. Every single AAA game does better on console. Majority of the players are either kids with limited budgets so they play what they got or dudebros who buy sports games and a shooter all their friends bought too. PC has similar players but there's also a lot of people who play a lot of different shit.
845277 No.14682347
>>14682293
>>14682313
Also it didn't help that the PC version is only on Battlenet.
c31a61 No.14682353
>>14682293
"Not being a casual retard" is not something to be proud of.
26c8dc No.14682490
>>14682293
Why the fuck would anyone buy Destiny, or anything Bungie has shat out this past decade? I loved Marathon, I loved Myth, to a degree I also appreciated what Halo had got going, but with Halo 2 they became a dumpster fire.
4e87fb No.14682506
>>14682490
Halo 2, 3, and ODST were all far better then Marathon Infinity.
a6db63 No.14682853
>>14682490
>why would anyone buy Destiny?
Anon, you need to keep in mind who the game-buying audience is these days. They're normalfags who watch Big Bang Theory. They're tweens whose first console was the Xbone. These are not people who comparison shop. They don't even read subtitles.
The most disgusting thing? They don't even know what good vidya is. And probably never will.
fbd3e0 No.14682873
>>14682506
> Halo 2
> A game scrapped together in less than a year from leftover parts
> Even that was not even finished
> Sold on a lie and a completely fake E3 "gameplay" reveal
> Entire advertising campaign for the sequel was all about actually getting to finish Halo 2 which ended abruptly
> Set the (low) standard that made online console gaming what it is today
> Couldn't even get the game to render properly without massive pop-in and LOD problems
> Good
> Halo 3
> Somehow worse than 2, despite years more development and more powerful hardware
> Halo ODST
> A cheap expansion pack at full price, full of OMG DON'T YOU LIKE FIREFLY and OMG WHAT IS DESTINY IT'S GONNA BE SO GOOD references
> And it started the walking simulators thing before they were cool
> Even though walking simulators were never cool
> Let's walk through large empty streets, that will surely engage the player
> Whatever, it's all shit
af476b No.14682899
>>14680000
>Quads wasted on a gey.
3eee5b No.14682902
>>14682293
>mfw got it for free
88b4b4 No.14682926
>>14682853
> They don't even know what good vidya is. And probably never will.
Won't stop them from being here in 10 years complaining about how the generation after them are mindless consumer sheep who have no taste. People like to nostalgiafag about the fifth and sixth generation of consoles, but I remember a lot of people back then shitting on PSX and PS2 era games for being garbage and lamenting how innovation and creativity were dead and crushed under mass marketing by megacorporations who bought their way into the industry rather than just creating good products that deserved their success. Complaining how the only people buying those games were casual kids who would grow up never knowing what good games were.
fa82c5 No.14682970
>>14682926
Complaining that the PS1 didn't have creative games is straight up wrong, that console still had a lot of new and experimental shit.
The PS2 had noticeably less but there was still some of that in there.
PS3 is when it got fucked.
a6db63 No.14683002
>>14682926
Maybe it's because I'm an actual oldfag 35 this year and have lived through all console iterations since the colecovision, but I'll say with some confidence that I think vidya's Golden Era was 1996 - 2008 give or take a year on either end.
Since then.. it's been a steady trip downhill. Dev costs increase every year, so big budget games need to pander to a wider audience. Indies can shit out drek like never before Steam has what, 100 more games coming out a month now than they did in 2017?, and everything else.
There could be another Golden Age in vidya, but it won't be until there are some major disruptions.
88b4b4 No.14683107
>>14683002
>but I'll say with some confidence that I think vidya's Golden Era was 1996 - 2008
I'd actually agree with you, if only because the leap from 2D to 3D opened up a lot of space for mechanical innovation. However, (I'd say by 2006) the formula of "what works and what doesn't/what's profitable and what isn't" was fairly well established. I'm just saying, I remember a lot of people shit talking that era of games because their (my) generation grew up on arcades and "home arcades", and the generation before us were largely hobby-craft games being developed for home computer systems.
And, limited hardware of the time aside, I'd say that arcades were still the gold standard for games in terms of innovation and fun. They had to be fun, and immediately and consistently fun, in order to draw customers in - as well as just difficult enough to keep milking quarters out of you without driving you off - and they had to be unique, innovative, and immediately identifiable in order to stand out from all the other cabinets.
11e597 No.14683120
>>14682926
I remember getting extreme vidya fatigue even as a child during the PS2 generation. The last game I every bothered to buy new was Twilight Princess.
88b4b4 No.14683128
>>14683120
I got it bad after the PSX. Almost walked away from gaming altogether, until the Sega Dreamcast came out and reeled me back in.
5fb0c4 No.14683303
And the Activision anon is still denying it all.
Gloriously funny.
>>14680011
It is not luck. It is good gameplay. People will make it last long naturally. It is not, and never will be, something that can be forced or made artificially.
>>14680184
This. Trends are cancer. Trend followers deserve death.
>>14680257
A VR card battle royal moba with nigger tranny abominations.
>>14680310
Exactly. Love for making games and nothing else.
>>14680539
That is because all the money went into marketing. The recipe for failure.
>>14680616
Because the industry is filled with marxists, women and niggers. Remove all of them, and everything will improve.
Also: "having potential" is a cancer that must be eliminated. All products are objective. They don't "have potential". They are either good or shit products. Whenever someone presents something with "think about the potential", avoid it at all costs. It is guaranteed to be shit.
>>14680657
That is because FF IV was made mostly by japanese people, the superior developers in the whole industry. Destiny was made by western marxists. The lowest life forms, above only bacteria. They could not, and will never be able to, create anything good in their whole lives.
>>14680737
Again, it amounts to: marxists. Kill them, and everything improves.
>>14681490
Japanese are superior to western marxists. Get used to it.
>>14681684
Leftists and women. They don't think.
>>14681709
Yes. and it will only stop by killing them all.
>>14682162
Wasn't he the one that got hospitalized recently?
>>14683002
Good quality can only come from scarcity. Whenever some product becomes streamlined, with easily accessible tools for any idiot to try, and greedy corporations to bribe for sales (known as marketing), everything declines.
Games were good when they were a risky business, with only gamers as customers, and any company that failed could go bankrupt overnight. When the risk was diminished, so did the quality.
The consumer is the opposite (literal "enemy") of the seller. If the seller (company, small group, indie, whatever) is in a confortable ambient and can survive even when failing, then the consumer is fucked. Only by making an oppressive and unforgiving ambient for sales, can the consumer be in a confortable position, as any seller MUST create good products constantly, or they will disappear at the first failure.
Make gaming good again by making it impossible to succeed without making excellent products constantly.
e7ec56 No.14683313
>>14683002
>Dev costs increase every year
Correction: organization costs increase. The actual tools of development are cheaper all the time.
a6db63 No.14683351
>>14683313
>it's organization costs
Not exactly true. Salaries increase yearly, and that's the single largest piece of development costs. And the cost of dev tools depends entirely on the tools themselves. Or if a studio makes their own tools, they need extra staff to support them.
Unless you're in dev, you don't understand where costs come from.
e185df No.14683577
>travel to different worlds
>gravity exactly the same
Mario Odyssey is a better space game than Destiny.
93204f No.14683608
>>14679962
Destiny 2 flopped because everyone was expecting Destiny 1 to be a proper replacement for old-WoW but sci-fi and on consoles. People were expecting Destiny to be a big open world-esque FPS because that's what Bungie was hyping it out to be
After Destiny 1 turned out to be a shallow boring mess of a generic fps that didn't need to be online-only. Less people showed up to the sequel
55429c No.14683689
>>14683333
nice digits
>>14679962
destiny was never good
a6db63 No.14683780
>>14683608
Remember anon, Destiny 2 was the number 2 or 3 selling game last year. Normalfags eat that shit up. When they start abandoning ship, you know things are fucked up
And where are most of them going? Is Warframe or Fornite seeing big gains? Or are they playing pubg with the rest of mainland China?
>>14682293
>mfw
406a83 No.14683882
>>14680568
No, see, I don't see that working. If there were a cock there it'd just be getting chafed badly from that, and besides, that doesn't account for the blank groin in the view of his rear. It adds up for him to just have a blank crotch that's being rubbed.
4724c6 No.14684066
>>14683780
> When they start abandoning ship, you know things are fucked up
but normalfags abandon ship on any game after awhile, activision shoulda been aware of this since they would pump out a new COD once a year to keep the normalfags occupied
037910 No.14684124
>>14681652
And that is what Monster Hunter has become? Dear god.
42bd88 No.14684162
>Agreeing to such a fucktarded contract where you have to shit out a new Destiny game every fortnight
>No sense of tension in the “story” to even make people more excited to play the next rushed sequel because the good guys have won twice now and all the stakes reset themselves to 0 at the end of every game
>Looter shooter at all when Borderlands hype train came and left almost a decade ago
>No content worth a shit between both games
I’m more upset that we live in an industry that produces sequels to games, not because the first game was popular and actually deserved a sequel, but because Corporate said so in the contract so fuck you. There’s nothing I despise more than sequels that don’t deserve to exist.
e185df No.14684186
>>14684162
I like how they managed to make a game full of science fiction weapons and I don't remember any of them being cool. Does anyone remember any of the weapons?
22ecca No.14684188
>>14683882
Why would he be so trilled if he has a blank crotch?
As far as I can tell the artist has never drawn that type of stuff, either.
22ecca No.14684190
8d541f No.14684191
>>14683780
If you mention destiny in warframe general chat it's like everyone there is a refugee. So I'd say a lot of warframe's recent success comes from destiny's failure.
0e58eb No.14684193
>>14684162
>>14684174
Zeon wiped out Dublin instead of Londonistan, they can never be forgiven for this.
8b82fa No.14684195
>>14684193
>Zeon wiped out Dublin
wtf i love haman karn now
406a83 No.14684248
>>14684188
Most important sex organ is the brain, as they say. No guarantee he'd feel like he'd need a cock there to enjoy it - your average female certainly wouldn't.
7d5f7b No.14684256
>>14682293
i'm not proud of not buying trash, it's just something you don't do.
22ecca No.14684361
>>14684248
He could just be touching him instead of doing anything else.
I think the white bump between his legs is meant to be a ballsack, his benis could just be obscured by his leg.
402b70 No.14684364
>>14680616
I can understand Devs dumbing down niche for casualization, but dumbing down an already dumbed down is full-on idiocy.
and by that I mean bruh, you're already catering to the lowest common denominator… How much lower can you get?
0e58eb No.14684382
>>14684248
>>14684361
You two really like talking about how a robot gets his rocks off, don't you?
83601a No.14684385
>>14684124
As a rabid MH fan, it's always been a grind and MHW didn't change the formula much save for grinding out decorations in the endgame
22ecca No.14684395
>>14684124
What >>14684385 said.
The MH games are really just one big grind. Some people love that, some people hate it.
>>14684382
You know it~
801b3d No.14684428
>>14681652
>Last time we hung out and played games, he kep
Monster Hunter games were always a grind. If you don't like grind why play it at all?
7d5f7b No.14684616
>>14683303
>Whenever someone presents something with "think about the potential", avoid it at all costs.
wish there were more people floating around that held this sentiment
037910 No.14684687
>>14684385
Nothing about what >>14681652 said sounds even remotely like MonHun. Guys coming out of the woodwork to say "it was always a grind" without adressing the rest of the post seems awfully suspicious to me. So quit fucking about, does MHW include all those bullshit MMO-like traits to make Destinytards flock to it, or does it not?
83601a No.14685178
>>14684687
There's no lootboxes or blueprint unlocking or whatever. The closest to what he's talking about is the new Kulve Taroth fight that rewards, among other things, weapons at random. But MH already did this before with 4U and that grind was more annoying
31218d No.14685302
>>14681673
I don't even think Satan would hit a threshold like this. Even this would digust him.
3c4b61 No.14685387
>>14681005
Incorrect, they made Halo Reach. Minus frame rate drops, engine glitches, and dog shit friendly AI, it has genuinely fun game play and looks better than the rest of the games (except Halo 2 Anniversary, but that game is a disappointment for it's own reasons). The Legendary difficulty is hard but not impossible, unlike fucking Halo 2 with respawning 1-shot snipers. It has a diverse campaign, including a space dogfight section that controls plays out well. It has a customizable wave survival mode, no enemy placement modification through the game's forge mode without mods. Credit grinding for armor, if you're into that. The rest suck, the music is nice though. The official Forge World maps for multiplayer ALWAYS LOOK TERRIBLE DUE TO HOW THE MESHES THEY ALLOWED FOR MAP BUILDING WHY DID THEY HAVE LIKE 5 OF THESE FUCKING MAPS ON THE OFFICIAL MULTIPLAYER PLAYLIST BUNGIE THIS WAS… I was going to say "the beginning of the end", but was is it really the beginning?
845277 No.14685487
>>14685387
>Incorrect, they made Halo Reach
Reach was shit though. Armor abilities were a mistake.
>Minus frame rate drops
Framerate drops + motion blur, the ultimate Halo cinematic experience.
>The official Forge World maps for multiplayer ALWAYS LOOK TERRIBLE
Those fucking prefabs… blocky dark grey walls, floors, ceilings… I hated Reach in the later years because of that. It was impossible to play on a DLC map, it was either vanilla or dark grey walls Forge maps. I'm glad 343 did a better job with Forge in the other games.
> Credit grinding for armor, if you're into that
That shit was way too grindy. I got stuck at Lieutenant Colonel (or something like that) and never managed to get higher because of the low EXP/credits that I was earning.
c053e9 No.14685680
>>14681005
marathon was fun
5fb0c4 No.14686736
>>14684616
Make people be like this.
Explain to them why the statement of "having potential" is indicative of a bad product.
11e597 No.14686770
>>14684364
They actively work to make people dumber so they'll have less work to do. This isn't a matter of them trying to appeal to more people so much as it's a matter of them trying to get away with less.
572c2f No.14687173
>>14682113
It's sub, but there's an indefinite trial version. Caps all your jobs at level 30, but you can convert your trial account to a full account whenever. There's even a "basic" subscription that caps you at one character per world but is cheaper than the regular sub. I forget if it's restricted in any other ways though.
cca428 No.14687207
>>14687173
>. I forget if it's restricted in any other ways though.
Its not, I know because I have been using it, you dont even need to make multiple characters per world since 1 character can do everything there is.
08859a No.14687238
>>14683333
I thought that was the Rockstar Social Club logo in the bottom right for a sec.
8d8415 No.14687444
>>14681533
Fucking nips. Why are their animal drawings more fuckable than western human drawings?
6b4816 No.14687477
>>14679962
Let's recount the constant fucking they gave to consumers
>Throttled XP gains
>limited content
>limited use shaders
>pushed eververse instead of actually improving the game
>leaks revealed it was Bungie's decision to milk the chumps because doing their job is hard
This piece of shit failed because it's a massive step backward from Destiny in every fucking regard and the developers still, I repeat still don't get where they fucked up the worse. Every enemy auto levels to you, this renders loot progression 100% pointless with a few exceptions. It rendered the campaign a boring tedius grind with cookie cutter missions. Even know they're going to readd random generated loot for higher tier weapons but still not undo the fucking level scaling.
The big update will launch the same time as the DLC and they'll use those coming back to finish their content to say that their update fixed and players are coming back. Then in a month the game will be right back to being fucking dead because they didn't fix anything.
ab44a9 No.14687516
a770d2 No.14687617
>>14682873
>hurr is popular so is bad
You reddit tryhards are the absolute worst.
3d4234 No.14687676
>>14681666
Why do many SJWs tend to have blue colored hair?
2feca1 No.14687684
>>14687676
compensating for no personality
1fe8ea No.14687948
>>14684186
Thats the worst part about Destiny and games like the Division, they're supposed to be loot shooters but without interesting loot. At least with Borderlands 1 and 2 you got interesting loot like guns that shoot waves, guns that can be chucked like grenades, grenades that bounce around and throw out electricity bolts, something that kept you going in spite of the poor story and boring sidemissions.
In Destiny its all the same, in fact many times you encounter the same exact gun but with slightly higher stats. Its baffling how Gearbox still puts out the only decent loot shooters, and they arent even great at it.
845277 No.14689260
>>14687948
The stats are also shit when you get an exotic weapon in both games.
b5a4da No.14690350
I normally hate Rich's show but on the last stream he put the state of moviegames so succinctly I couldn't help but clap when I heard it.
abac54 No.14690453
>>14679962
Everspace devs paid that guy 5000 euros to play their game for an hour.
He also tweeted that bungie didn't say they were rerouting the whole company and he mispoke. He is an idiot is the point I'm trying to make weither it's true or not.
785428 No.14690540
>>14685302
I don't know. Maybe. He's guilty of teaching man disobedience, but most of the details after that are clearly from the minds of men. He's still partly responsible for this mess though.
12d153 No.14690825
5b5ea6 No.14691137
>>14685680
Anyone that played Marathon has died of AIDS by now, as Mac public has always been gays.
959177 No.14691629
>nobody talking about the new worthless dlc that will totally fix everything
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=WNJCC5PIZPQ
cca428 No.14691975
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Yo niggaz, they got another DLC featuring stronk woman and the same enemy you have been killing for years.
ac7392 No.14692866
>>14681960
>he kept trying to sell me on D2
D2 is actually fantastic. You should go ahead and emulate it.
d8b86b No.14699159
>>14687676
It takes attention away from their faces.
db3a69 No.14699311
67c2f0 No.14707231
>>14687794
>tfw people are still posting your OC 3 years later.
cba417 No.14707335
>>14679962
>>14679973
10-year plan is just starting:
>Slave your teams like the good old times, to make a big money IP.
>Sack everyone expensive before release to save money.
>End product is good, but cut content is too obvious. Hide it with grind.
>Release a game with 1/10 the content that should be there.
>It's the best thing that has ever been marketed to be the best thing.
>Success.
>Part 2: What? Was this really all we scrapped from the first game? Better pad this shit out, like a JRPG.
>Release a "content stripped MMO shooter 2", and it's complete shit.
>No-success, the goym knows situation.
Now we just wait for 10 years, and see how funny the joke gets.
The joke only gets better
184c15 No.14717058
>>14682293
>didn't buy destiny
>didn't buy the division
Dodged two bullets,
check em
12bc63 No.14718247
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>The dislike ratio on multiple trailers
>Everyone mocking this as another reskinned bullshit DLC with padded content
Hahaha
5a474f No.14718257
>>14718247
It really sucks that they won't do this type of shit to other games that deserve it. Normalfags are too forgiving.
bbcfc0 No.14718262
>>14718247
>can't see the dislike ratio on that vid without using the inspector to manually extract the url and pasting it into another tab
Why doesn't whoever codes this site just add a link above the thumbnail? Surely that would only take a few minutes to do.
5a474f No.14718273
>>14718262
Clicking the title opens it up in another tab for me.
bbcfc0 No.14718292
>>14718273
There's no title for me. There is for youtube but not hooktube.
f2ab8e No.14723948
>>14679962
Some good news for a change.
d52666 No.14723969
>>14718262
How do you even get the video URL from a hooktube embed? Everything I've tried only leads to a google proxy
e33d3e No.14729135
Maybe now they'll go back to Halo.
f2c3cb No.14729247
>>14715719
>no automatic GPU driver updates
what did he mean by this?
996240 No.14730136
>>14680184
At this point I don't care anymore. I only really like older games. The industry is too damn saturated with too many developers making games and we already have countless examples of amazing games done better in the past from just about all genres you can think of. So what do modern developers of all kinds have to offer that I haven't already seen and seen done way better from the past? There is nothing for me anymore with this industry.
Maybe I have just finally outgrown the industry to some extent like the normalfags would say but somehow I doubt it. It is just that there is too much fucking shit games. Even good newer games might have some bullshit I will dislike greatly. Like microtransactions or a mandatory sequel that will bastardize the previous game simply because these assholes must reach that wider audience.
The best way to enjoy gaming now imo is to just go cheap, emulate and pirate. If you have to buy newer games, only play a couple of the very best games and make sure it is a developer that deserves more support. Companies like Activision and EA most certainly are cancer that deserve no money.
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f2ab8e No.14733781
>>14733497
That's more than most non-Nintendo console games have 2-3 years post release.
037469 No.14734217
>>14681474
And after that it became a success. Its almost as if people value others admitting that they fucked up.
bbcfc0 No.14734395
>>14723969
Currently this is where to look for the video id or link when the embed is closed or opened.
508548 No.14734856
>>14715719
>no pre-installed dedicated game store in windows
What! Why would anyone want that? Jesus! And the only point in that image that is a valid concern is point 1.
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256087 No.14734896
>>14723969
>>14734395
nigga just right click copy link location and then hook->you. it's not rocket surgery.
bb0bf0 No.14734904
36d9b9 No.14739451
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>>14681081
The guy has an accent, his humor can get cringy and his avatar-thing get's annoying. However, it's pretty in-depth, and the quality of the video does get much better by the end. One can skip the first or second episode, since it's mostly just setting the scene.
36d9b9 No.14740413
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>>14739988
Satisfied you nigger?
3f4617 No.14740439
>>14739359
All HB needs to do next is feature Marvel vs Capcom Infinite and the Monthly will just be dead, awful games.
000000 No.14746441
>>14680381
>All the cancerous industry heads who wanted video games to become movies got their wish. There is a sizable portion of vidya now in which everything is so focus-grouped that creativity is fucking dead. It's just like Hollywood hammering the same trend repeatedly until the market is over-saturated with the same shit.
The Academy Awards exist for the sole purpose of encouraging hollywood to also make good movies instead of just mass market bullshit. In videogame land though the awards are all completely pretentious bullshit circlejerks that pretend to have standards (but don't) just so journos and devs can go around glad-handing eachother.
99fb17 No.14746451
>>14739359
Smells like desperation. Though they might be able to sell some season pass to clueless normalfags. I imagine this is the plan.
e6ffe6 No.14746916
>>14746441
"…the awards are all completely pretentious bullshit circlejerks that pretend to have standards (but don't) just so journos… can go around glad-handing eachother."
This is exactly what the Academy Awards also is.
This, and being a marxist propaganda organization that awards only movies that pander to marxists.
000000 No.14748522
>>14746916
>This is exactly what the Academy Awards also is.
By and large, yes. There's also a lot of gaming the vote going on behind the scenes. But there do exist some standards in the Academy Awards, which is far more than can be said for gaming awards (which only cares for production values and the critical consensus as written by idiots who suck at playing videogames). The presence of the Oscars also motivates big Hollywood outfits to try making intellectual shit by tantalizing them with nebulous prestige and the large boost in sales an Oscar prize nets them.
>This, and being a marxist propaganda organization that awards only movies that pander to marxists.
>implying hollywood is not a profit-oriented capitalist institution
Nigger, at least distinguish between the cultural marxism meme and actual marxism, because if you're trying to suggest to me that Hollywood believes in workers' rights and equal distribution of wealth I am going to laugh my ass off. But yes, Hollywood is into the PC-pandering bullshit. It won't last though. PC parasites can subvert and ruin industries, but unprofitable flicks don't make money. This already happened to the comic book industry. They went SJW and lost sales because they decided to alienate regular comic book readers and pursue people who don't read comics instead. Lo and behold their profits imploded and after a couple of years SJWs got laid off because at the end of the day they need to make money and the "wider market" was never materializing. Whenever Hollywood makes SJW shit, it becomes a mess of controversy and poor sales and they can manage the controversy by whining that complaints about feminist/etc. pandering are just misogyny and shit but they can't manage the bad sales and loss of fans who can needle everything that's wrong with these films. That doesn't mean they'll really admit they did anything wrong but Hollywood is a big believer in shitcanning everything that doesn't sell well.
SJWs do well in EA though because EA was always a parasite that subsisted upon acquiring better companies and running them into the ground as they milk them for cash, so SJWs feel right at home there. In general larger companies are more prone to SJW subversion as they accumulate structures that are not oriented towards usefulness but bureaucracies, HR/PR/sales/marketing, and office politics. Such places are fertile grounds for SJW parasites to embed themselves in by preaching about wider markets. There's a lot of bank being made by SJWs selling HR/PR training on how to become more socially aware (SJW) and having the philosophy infest its way through the ranks. The best part is when you control HR and PR departments you can basically fire people from the other departments who don't agree with you enough or criticize you too much by pressuring suits into believing that these people are damaging to the company and generally net yourself a protected position where you can't be criticized. You can even start promoting the need for diversity officers and socially conscious community managers (also sell training) where you recommend friends and so forth as the SJW shit operates as a giant parasitic cronyist enterprise.
4bdd2a No.14752792
>>14681666
Satan’s beard
>thinks playing vidya on a fucking tablet is okay
Faggot normalfags are simply the fucking worst
Throw that one and his ilk off a building
aee811 No.14752848
the thing is, the first Destiny was actually becoming good and the normalfags liked it, but bungie decided to instead press the reset button and make another sequel, throwing everything out the window, why do companies do this?
5a474f No.14752855
>>14752848
There's talk that large chunks of the first game's team were replaced and it's not like they were going to get away with $60 DLC unless they called it a sequel.
cf2afb No.14752857
>>14752848
What truly amazes me is that they scrapped most of the content for Destiny 1 twelve months before release, lived through the clusterfuck that created, and then pulled the same stunt with Destiny 2.
I don't even think it was Activision that is at fault, seems to me Bungie is filled with cretins, what with accounts of old time employees refusing to change their ways because they think making Halo means they're God's gift to mankind. It will be hilarious once Activision gets tired of Bungie's incompetence and shuts them down.
0bbb34 No.14752862
>>14748522
>SJWs do well in EA though because EA was always a parasite that subsisted upon acquiring better companies and running them into the ground as they milk them for cash, so SJWs feel right at home there.
SJWs work well with EA because EA is one of the most hated companies. As such, they (EA) want good PR so after Anita had a seminar at every major EA studios they've created "Play to Give", a charity that throws millions of dollars at feminists lobbies/organizations.
a9c770 No.14752865
real shame destiny is one of my favorite new ips in the last decade. easily sme of the best times ive had gaming in a long long time. the storyline, the gameplay, its inovative, i wish that companies puhed innovation this hard, i however will never stop plaing the first couple games that we got.
aee811 No.14752868
>>14752855
well, they did that with the taken king expansion, i think they wanted to make the game subscription based but that wouldn't sit well with their normalfag audience, so they keep denying it's an mmo fps and call it a "shared world shooter" the only problems that the game had in it's last years was lack of accesibility since people needed to go on a website to find people to do a raid with, lore not integrated into the game and the pvp balancing being garbage
>>14752857
i don't know why most people blame activision for everything, Bungie signed a contract with the devil and they fucked up severely, i really wanted to like the game with it's gorgeous artwork but they are too incompetent
cf2afb No.14752885
>>14748522
>which is far more than can be said for gaming awards
Nope. Just like with anything infested with leftists it runs on nepotism and corruption. Just look at the Hugo Awards and how the leftists turned what was once a prestigious award into a laughingstock only used to promote themselves and their diversity pets.
Where leftists are tolerated there cannot be any reward for accomplishment and merit.
>marxism
>workers' rights and equal distribution of wealth
Oh my, Tor-kun, seems to me you're the one ignorant about what Marxism is really about. You don't really believe the drivel /leftypol/ is trying to sell you, do you?
>but unprofitable flicks don't make money
Jews don't care. Same as they don't care if comics, books, games et al make money. They are perfectly fine with burning billions to spread propaganda and accelerate the extermination of the white race. If they ever run out of money there's hundreds of Jewish billionaires that will donate to the cause, and if even that fails, they can simply print more dollars or ask the government to bail them out.
0bbb34 No.14752904
>>14752848
>bungie decided to instead press the reset button
True and worse: they didn't take advantage of the reset button to improve on the stuff they made throughout D1.
During the development of D2 they've encountered the exact same issues: "gotta appeal to the casuals, so let's scrap everything we were planing for D2 and start over a year before release". They've hired the wrong people (Noseworthy the Destiny 2 director is a casual, he openly said that he didn't play D1 because he didn't understand how it worked), the writing team is awful, every cutscene or dialogue is Joss Whedon-tier, they wrote stories that contradicted the lore etc. Bungie admitted that D2 went full microtransactions because they didn't have the talent to write better stories and make better content for the expansions/DLC.
450827 No.14753455
>>14748522
>workers' rights and equal distribution of wealth
That's not Marxism/Communism. That's just plain ol' Socialism. Communism is when you max out going full retard with your Socialist worker's reparations you scare away all of your country's wealth into a completely different country. Thus leaving yourself and everyone else exponentially more unemployed and underpaid than before. And then you get to figure out how to rebuild from the ashes you made, but without using any labor or management techniques from the wealthy or else the commissar puts a bullet in your head for trying to go back to the days when things were "worse".
9916cc No.14753477
>>14715719
Whats bad about the image did i miss a tragedy?
93d3a4 No.14753489
>>14681115
don't forget that the first version of FFXIV was so fucking bad that they actually delayed release, took it back to the drawing board, and turned it into what is for my money the best MMO on the market right now
5a474f No.14753534
>>14753489
The only release they really delayed was the console one. The game came out as scheduled but they dropped the subscription after the first month or two.
93d3a4 No.14753558
>>14753534
is that so? i remember being in the beta and after the consensus was almost unanimously negative, they held off on release and fixed their shit. it was a long time ago though, i'm probably wrong
81aafc No.14753566
>>14681584
I looked it up and it's pretty much what I expected it to be: A fad. Normalfags hear about the latest hip and trendy game. They buy it and use their free time to play it exclusively. Once the fad passes, they abandon the game en mass and find the next "lifestyle game" to flock to.
5a474f No.14753590
>>14753566
I'd say there's a bit more to it than that. Wii Sports, for example, was a fad but nobody who played it went as balls deep into it as these people do. This is more about them taking a more personal stake and considering their self is largely defined by the crowd it rarely ever ends up being more than a popularity contest where lootboxes increase your chance of being prom king and queen.
ce8146 No.14756444
>>14752855
>it's not like they were going to get away with $60 DLC unless they called it a sequel.
Yes they can. Break it into $15 "expansion packs".
a02dfe No.14756529
>archiving to reddit
So I guess we're fully taken over by >>>/cuckchan/ ?
03cdab No.14756564
Riddle me this /v/:
If Bungie had remained a Microsoft owned studio, would Destiny 1 have truly lived up to its vision? Would Microsoft have interfered in the development as heavily as Activision? I'm thinking not.
Then again maybe Destiny wouldn't exist at all in that scenario, and Halo 4/5 would have been made by them instead.
4eb3ed No.14756614
>>14680381
we also get endless 2dramatic5u last of us rip off's
12bc63 No.14756625
>>14756564
Microsoft was already going downhill by time they showcased what their plans for Xbone during E3, they'd also die a slow death like what Rare is doing with Sea of Thieves taking them years yet they're still at early access.
e6ffe6 No.14756820
>>14756564
No. All western companies are marxist, thus, making all their products and services automatically shit that will never be good and that people must never spend money into.
06bdfd No.14756887
>>14682293
My friend bought it for me and I could get past how fucking boring the game was. Didn't buy into the first one and glad as fuck I didn't let my friends convince me to buy this one.
87c7b0 No.14757061
>>14682293
I bought it and I barely play games. It was fun to play while high.
12bc63 No.14762186
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Gameplay and the new content is shit, but hey, they were sooooo desperate to get people to care, they now revealed that Rasputin the Warmind dindunuffin, and the Guardians as always are retarded.
c891dc No.14762520
I heard the original Destiny got better after all the DLC was released. Is this true?
Even if true, it sucks that the full game "has" to be behind the DLC paywall.
29ae00 No.14765055
>new DLC is 20$
>comes with 4 story missions and 3 endgame "raids"
>2 of the raids are just replaying a story mission, so the expac actually only technically has 5 new missions
>the raid that isn't a repeat story mission is
PS4 EXCLUSIVE FOR ONE YEAR
1b6a59 No.14765683
>>14679962
>>14707335
Wasn't the composer who was with Bungie since the beginning (or a very long time) fired as a desperate attempt from the then current Bungie CEO to save his ass?
I heard the composer sued and won and the CEO had to step down anyways.
Also how fucking stupid do you have to be to make the same fucking mistake twice?
Apparently the first one got interesting lore that was kinda cut from the game but was readable on the website after doing some story shit.
I got the game a few months before the second one released but didn't do any MP stuff because I don't have an adapter to use headphones+microphone and those retarded one-ear headsets can eat a dick
>>14680381
>and we get endless battle royale survival games.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I only know about PUBG and Fortnite and maybe some games getting battle royale modes.
There plenty of other games released but people complain everytime a new sort of trend comes up.
e6ffe6 No.14765845
>>14765683
"…how fucking stupid do you have to be to make the same fucking mistake twice?"
By being fed with soy and being a leftist.
5b7b52 No.14765912
>>14762520
no, that's a meme spread by retards who play destiny. the game was still sub-par, had little to no content available endgame (raids and that's literally it aside from a shitty horde mode and the most unbalanced pvp to exist in almost any game), the story from the dlc that "fixed everything" was also subpar and extremely basic but good compared to the non-story of the vanilla game so in contrast it looks like shakespear to destiny fans. some problems were fixed but at the end of the day the game was still complete shit, i know this because i bought the game after ttk was released for $15 and it still sucked fucking cock in every way besides gunplay/sound design/art style (which it ripped a lot from warframe without remorse)
destiny 1 was so bad that i saw destiny 2 being garbage a mile away, but you can't stop normalfags from being fucking braindead
0bbb34 No.14765975
>>14765683
The official narrative is that Marty O'Donnell was acting like a diva. In reality, Bungo fucked him many times during D1. They refused to use a piece that he composed exclusively for the reveal trailer, they never bothered to release the Music of the Spheres (it got leaked last year).
>I got the game a few months before the second one released
Why did you do that? The first game was a boring grindfest. There's no story, no interesting character. I hope you didn't play the campaign alone.
>>14762520
>I heard the original Destiny got better after all the DLC was released. Is this true?
It's not. 90% of the DLCs were content cut from the vanilla version. The last D1 DLC (Rise of Iron) was an attempt at telling an epic story but this event was completely ignored/forgotten in D2.
Also the Rise of Iron DLC wasn't part of the season pass, Bungo tried to sell it only to those who would buy a compilation of vanilla Destiny + season pass DLCs (so if you already had Destiny and/or its DLCs, you would have to buy it again).
7a7f14 No.14768732
so theyre taking engineers away from building a new ship, to repair a sinking ship that has no people on board?
brilliant.
8a07ed No.14768873
>>14762186
>>14679962
Boy, oh boy, are they desperate?
e6ffe6 No.14769203
>>14768873
Don't forget that the pre-order version came with a fidget spinner.
Bungie is composed of literal retards (women, faggots and leftists) that in a functional society, would already have been burned alive for their idiocy alone.
da131f No.14769248
So. Whose taking bets "Bungie" is going to make a Battle Royale mode?
f2ab8e No.14772434
b5f435 No.14772484
>>14769203
>Bungie is composed of literal retards (women, faggots and leftists)
Speaking about leftists at Bungie, apparently every female NPC in the Destiny 2 main social hub wear a hijab.
Also after Anita made a video criticizing the way the female playable characters used to sit in D1, Bungie changed the animation pose so now in D2 every playable character sit the same way (legs open) whatever the gender.
e6ffe6 No.14773291
>>14772484
As i said: literal retards (women, faggots and leftists).
850e36 No.14777834
683fb9 No.14777881
The saddest thing was Destiny was envisioned by Jason Jones to be a Star Wars but it's Post collapse Rome style setting and all we actually got was star wars, but the robot is gay(Er)
850e36 No.14777886
>>14777881
>but the robot is gay
What? So is >>14679977 canon?
4b78c1 No.14781730
WHY THE FUCK IS RASPUTIN A GIRL
THEY KILLED THE LAST THING I WAS INTERESTED IN, GOOD JOB BUNGO
b5f435 No.14781756
>>14781730
>WHY THE FUCK IS RASPUTIN A GIRL
The girl in the new DLC?
12bc63 No.14781782
>>14781730
Rasputin is a ultra-computer you fucking retard.
>>14781756
The shoehorned bitch is Ana Bray, part of that mega-company Clovis Bray that had a hand in creating Rasputin.
b5f435 No.14781822
>>14781782
I really hate the story in Destiny. Everything that happened before seems way more fun and interesting than D1 and D2. Why don't they make a game set before the arrival of the Traveler?
Is Ana Bray another self-insert? Why is she linked to Rasputin?
12bc63 No.14781921
>>14781822
Because just like Blizzard, Bungie doesn't know how to make a story that involves role-playing, so they need proxy characters to showcase their terrible writing at, this is the same shit as their last "Expansion Pack" the Osiris reveal was underwhelming, and no anon, the last 4 years a lot of the old guard of Bungie were either forced out or left, there's no possible way they can make another game because that contract with Activision has fucked them up.
12bc63 No.14782117
>>14781822
And she's linked because another mystery, the Clovis Bray Company and their role in the Golden Age needed to be answered, and presto, we got some bimbo bitch who was also alluded to, who became Exo Stranger 2.0
266b79 No.14789841
>>14782165
How does that have anything to do with political alignment opposed to just being a shit/lazy writer?
e6ffe6 No.14789914
>>14789841
Because being a leftist obligatory makes anyone a shit/lazy writer/anything.
2fab79 No.14789942
>Try to copy Warframe, a game that currently exists and is doing well
>make it dumbed down in every respect
>shove microtransactions into every corner so hard it would make EA blush
>pump a gorillian dollars into it
>surprised it fails
WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING
b4d9b4 No.14790017
>>14723969
Just middle click/right click retard unless of course you've already clicked play, then you have to reload the the thread
6f7d56 No.14797575
>>14790017
Stop spoonfeeding.
4266cb No.14799700
>>14680257
What next game?
4266cb No.14799753
>>14682293
>mfw friends were obsessed with it
>mfw they hate the second
>mfw I never gave those kikes a single penny
6f7d56 No.14808367
>>14799753
Get better friends.
0a70d8 No.14808595
>>14681666
i love my tablet too but thats just fucking stupid.
>balance and tuning
is this motherfucker a class lead or someshit?
d7816f No.14820000
f50342 No.14820382
>>14808464
At the rate it's going, it won't be long until my workplace starts selling the game at 5 dollar bargain bin prices, since we have about 10-12 copies at roughly the same price minus tax.
16e782 No.14820520
>>14820000
Just stopping by to check these quads.
faf9b5 No.14820553
>>14680184
THe thing is these are the AAA titles. Their budgets are TOO BIG for the consumer base to justify so they aim to be 100% mainstream with their shit.
The problem with games is that those moneyhogs actually made profit in the past, mostly thanks to muh graphics. People bought them instead of ambitious and interesting games with lower budgets.
608fd4 No.14820647
>>14680616
FFXIV has a lot of problems, my biggest gripe was the community screaming how they wanted FFXI again but in HD because 1.0 on release was actually almost perfectly what they asked for.
Its just they got FFXI's release and not 3 expansions in like they expected it to be and heres where the problem started.
FFXI also had no auction house and items had to be sold from a market place of people's characters. Almost every little thing down to the crafting was made to mimic FFXI on release and people hated it. Because nobody played FFXI on release it wasn't released outside of japan untill after Rise of the Zilart where they added in shit like the Auction House. In-fact if you go and play FFXI right now and do the original quests then the newer ones the shift in quality is Staggering.
So while square did fuck up non stop there is a lot of weird caveats about it thanks to player involvement not knowing what they actually wanted thanks to miscommunication, I feel like the game could have been much better if they understood what the fans wanted.
Im getting sick of hearing all this shit about XIV when nobody seems to remember this at all.
732d61 No.14820695
>>14768873
joking aside, is it even worth 12 bucks? Malpractice and shitty behavior from the developer aside.
41ba7a No.14820725
>>14820695
>>14768873
When does humble update it to show the other games? It says destiny 2 and more to come?
732d61 No.14820744
>>14820725
When the new rotation starts, so in two weeks.
e4a352 No.14820748
>>14820695
It's like a shitty mix of Reach and Call of Duty with random gear added to the mix.
The writing is laughably bad, the music is decent and the campaign is condescendingly easy (and short) with really boring enemy designs and simplistic AI.
The multiplayer is about as bad as Reach's, if Reach tried to go full tryhard but failed horribly at it. Level advantages are disabled in every mode but one, but that doesn't mean weapons don't get perks that make them unarguably, factually better than others (usually Legendary and Exotic ones) and a bunch of the in-meta weapons are locked behind the ""expansions"".
cbcfa1 No.14820759
>>14820647
no, no, no, no, no. I played FFXI on release, the japanese PS2 release, and I also played FFXIV 1.0 on release and before, I was in the beta. pic related. what we wanted was FFXI-in-HD and what we got was nothing like FFXI. the job system was totally different, the crafting was totally different, the combat was totally different, nearly everything was totally different. even the thing you're talking about, the lack of an auction house, was different, because in FFXI your player character was the vendor ("bazaar" mode in english) while in FFXIV 1.0 you had to hire NPCs to stand around and hawk your wares.
this horseshit about "FFXIV was exactly what you asked for and you just didn't like it" keeps getting repeated here and it's just not fucking true. FFXIV 1.0 was a disaster in every single way and it was NOTHING like FFXI 1.0. I played both games as an adult, ~8 years for FFXI and ~4 years for FFXIV 1.0/ARR (yeah I'm fucking old) and you're full of shit.
732d61 No.14820775
>>14820748
That sounds fucking awful and not even worth 5 dollars.
41ba7a No.14820807
>>14820744
That's when the new monthly is out. I wanted to know when they reveal the rest of the games in this month's monthly.
732d61 No.14820818
>>14820807
Exactly. As I said, it is revealed when the new monthly is out.
41ba7a No.14820891
>>14820818
Well that's retarded. It could be a bunch of more shit games you'd never want aside from the main one that made you sub.
732d61 No.14820940
>>14820891
but goyim you never know so you better subscribe now to get the AAA hit Destiny 2 ™
so what if you get a bunch of crap with it? It's free you ungrateful racist.
8bb986 No.14821082
>>14820748
Also the level cap is tied to the expansions so if you didn't buy every DLCs then you can't get past the vanilla level cap.
Apparently the latest DLC has brought back the shitty artificial level ceiling from the early D1, players now can't get to max level with the loot earned in public events or in the strikes, only by doing the raids.
608fd4 No.14821259
>>14820759
And I also played both games you fuck.
The crafting was not totally different they just added in a stupid fucking pointless amount of extra items into the mix even more so than XI.
Oh that's right they let you not have to AFK in Jeuno with the game running overnight instead you clicked a button and forgot about it. Bravo SquareEnix such a large step forward they figured out that pissed people the fuck off but still wanted to implement it in some fashion.
As for combat of course it's different it's trying to be the next iteration onto the series, no shit but all the little things that made XI into the mess that it was on launch were in here just with shit spinkled ontop like the exp cap not to mention the god damn leve allowance they still havent removed.
As for it getting toted around Ive never once seen this said here in any of the threads ive seen. Fuck you I have strong doubts you ever played on the Japanese release of XI.
I remember Square shutting down the fucking Offical Fourms for XI because of "negativity" only a month after they were put up because people made fun of their dumb ass decisions.
Go shill your shitty wow clone to someone else you cunt enjoy your downgraded lighting engine that broke AMD cards on release.
e6ffe6 No.14822168
>>14820553
The problem are people and thee jews manipulating corporations.
>>14820647
Normalfags don't know what they want. Never did, and never will.
Good games from before were all made by the studios and companies as they wanted, and people either adopted or rejected them. By listening to the braindead masses of idiots, companies are only creating shit.
>>14820695
Malpractice and shitty behavior from the developer must be reasons enough to never spend your money on their products.