3decb5 No.14659314
ITT: Classic games that are fuckoff-hard to run correctly on modern OS's, by that I mean you have to go above and beyond simple emulation, sourceports, or INI-tweaking to get it to play correctly.
Bonus points if your only choice is to use a VM.
Bonus points if you have a resource for figuring the shit out.
Mechwarrior 2:
>requires you to resort to Dosbox, installing games from CD always being a pain to figure-out, there's a tool called MechVM available but it hasn't been updated in years and still has problems, including its own compatibility issues.
>playing the Windows version of the game is completely-impossible on 64-bit versions of Windows, requiring you to resort to a VM
>CD music will not work, no-matter how specifically you have it set up
Spies Vs. Mercs
>multiplayer servers are down and aren't supported by Gameranger, requiring you to use a LAN emulation tool like Evolve or Hamachi, which has its own quirks with setting-up and running correctly (and in Hamachi's case, a paywall)
>game refuses to run in widescreen resolution while settings are turned-up to high, if you try to change the resolution, it will change the graphics to low, and if you set it back to high, it will change the resolution back to 4:3, so on and so-forth
Those two games specifically came to mind, but feel free to add others. I thought about adding Shadow Warrior and Blood but SW: Classic Redux and Blood GDX do a pretty-good job as pseudo source ports now, I think.
3decb5 No.14659342
>>14659334
Beetle-Saturn/Mednafen does a pretty good job these days, you just have to have a confident processor to get it to play smooth.
SSF was pretty good too, but mounting the disc images was always an asspain.
3decb5 No.14659368
Powerslave EX
>similarly to Doom 64 EX, mouse control is completely-broken, unlike Doom 64 EX however, no known workaround is currently available, though controllers work fine of course this only applies if you're running Winblows 10 like a faggot, because it's an OS issue
da1330 No.14659406
<Find something worse than this son-of-a-bitch
8bab1d No.14659425
I haven't tried MW2, but MechWarrior 3 is from what I can tell impossible on 64-bit. Causes insane graphical glitches and physics engine problems, some that only start when you fire laser or missile weapons or open the map. Really weird shit.
ec662e No.14659472
I really wanna try to get a game of spies vs mercs going one day but my schedule and lack of friends makes it damn impossible. Have very fond memories of me and my brother playing this online though. No game like it.
0eaf88 No.14659497
Monolith games
>NOLF
>Game runs in 4:3 by default. Can run in 16:9 but requires a third party mod. Mod bugs out very frequently especially when changing settings
>Doesn't install properly on 64bit, need to DL a third party installer program
>Game requires a Direct Draw emulator to run properly due to Monolith stupidly deciding to draw different parts of the game using different versions of Direct X. Like the UI uses an older version of Direct X so whenever you pull up the sniper rifle's scope the framerate suddenly drops to 15.
>Mouse requires lowering DPI to avoid jitters
>Source code was released but is a partial source of just game logic and not the engine
>Blood
>Game runs in Dosbox due to Warner Bros refusing to let Jace Hall release the source code
>Mouse control is amazingly bad and requires a fan patch to fix
>the fan patch is really annoying to install and requires editing cfg files
>The game spawned several attempts to port it to more modern OS's out of frustration. Including one attempt that completely remade it in eduke32 and an ongoing port to Java.
>Blood2/Shogo
>Game barely works. Was like this on release
>dgvoodoo must be installed will not run otherwise
>Shogo's mouse controls don't work by default needs to be configured via cfg
>source code was released but it's just the source to game logic and not the engine
It's usually a dice toss with these two games if they'll run at all
Surprisingly this list gets shorter and shorter. Most games I just throw dgvoodoo at. It used to be games like Jedi Knight, Thief the Dark Project and System Shock 1/2 were near impossible to run but after they got re-released on GOG it's trivial.
448c18 No.14659515
>>14659497
>Blood
You hear of BloodGDX? It's just some mad slav reverse engineering the source code, but it works really well.
>NOLF
Don't forget that if your monitor refresh rate is above 60hz, the game audio/cutscenes starts cutting itself off
0eaf88 No.14659529
>>14659515
>You hear of BloodGDX? It's just some mad slav reverse engineering the source code, but it works really well.
Yeah I mentioned it. It's the port to Java.
It's okay but it has problems especially with the expansions. Mostly missing textures.
>Don't forget that if your monitor refresh rate is above 60hz, the game audio/cutscenes starts cutting itself off
Even some modern games do this so it's not something I would've brought up. As long as the game runs at 60 I'm happy.
ab4a57 No.14659553
>>14659497
this is why I keep period correct hardware around for 9x games. also lithtech is a shitshow of an engine.
0eaf88 No.14659575
>>14659553
>this is why I keep period correct hardware around for 9x games
Yeah I only play these games on Windows XP. It's only really everything prior to Jupiter that shits the bed
>lithtech is a shitshow of an engine.
I've modded Lithtech for a while and I've been helping get a blender plugin for Lithtech 2.0 made (NOLF1) mostly because I want to make mods for it. I will say that later Lithtech engines (such as F.E.A.R) are much easier. The biggest problem with modding for Lithtech is there's basically no documentation available for it anymore.
ab4a57 No.14659579
>>14659575
the lithed editor is also worse than Dromed
aa515c No.14659583
I could never get Rage of Mages running at all after WinXP. It finally came to gog a little while ago but still has issues
Freedom Force wasn't too hard to get running but on Vista and up it had a nasty mouse bug where you'd always be locked into the combat fist. Movement and targeting would become untenable. All the various fixes were bullshit an the truth of the matter is that negating it came down to luck. The steam version still has the bug.
Thankfully, the gog version fixes it, but based on the advanced camera controls not normally present in FF1, I think what they did was port FF2's executable and repoint it at FF1's files
0eaf88 No.14659597
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>>14659579
>the lithed editor is also worse than Dromed
Nah it's like Hammer except everything's slightly more organized (it also depends on which version you're talking about since later versions had better camera controls).
What's much worse is the other stuff like the program you use to test models and the particle generation program. Which features zero documentation on how to actually use. I had to ask people who only speak Russian how to use a lot of it.
>Dromed
Dromed isn't that bad. It's like UnrealEd. I really like how you can preview lights in the editor and it's subtractive rather than additive. You can also test really really fast and jump right back into the editor. Once you get past the interface it's a really comfy editor. I'm not surprised T2 had so many custom maps.
d7cf9d No.14659617
Combat Mission Motherfucking Afghanistan. I managed to get it working on my Win7 machine, finally, but got pretty much constant video errors (weird effects like tracers becoming solid lasers etc) and if the sound actually worked it was a horrifying, screaming static. I'm convinced the torrent I downloaded was just plain haunted and just forgot about it
4cd9c1 No.14659626
Still waiting for the day someone figures out how to play this on anything past XP, it really doesn't help that no one in hell knows about this game except me. It was one of my favorite games as a kid.
4cd9c1 No.14659635
>>14659583
I've tried running the original Freedom Force multiple times with the steam version, I remember I could fix the broken character pathing but I could never get the damn thing to save my games correctly and eventually I just gave up. I'll definitely check out the gog version.
1e2ecd No.14659695
>>14659626
My girlfriend has a copy of that game, I haven't played it myself but remember a trailer/ad for it in one of the old Disney VHS tapes I had when I was little. I'd like to try to play it sometime.
1e2ecd No.14659701
>>14659472
I think we might be able to get a game night for it soon. Check Radcorp if you're interested.
b71ac0 No.14659726
SWAT 3, there is a 50/50 chance your OS simply won't be able to run it at all.
dd365b No.14659730
>>14659726
Same with The Sims, both simply cannot run in 8 and 7 has its problems, at least with Sims
4cd9c1 No.14659731
>>14659695
You did good your girlfriend sounds like she has some good tastes I'd definitely recommend playing it, it has a really unique art style and a great soundtrack but the controls are clunky as hell. You could try running it on a virtual machine but I'd just grab an old computer running 95 or 98 and play it on that if you really want to try it.
1e2ecd No.14659739
>>14659731
She has decent taste, she only plays on PC and primarily-plays indie games, MMO's, and adventure games, which differs from my taste in classic FPS's, stealth games, and strategy but I can still appreciate it.
I might need to try it out, VM might be my only option but I could figure it out.
d6e4e9 No.14659744
>>14659314
>>CD music will not work, no-matter how specifically you have it set up
get the latest dev builds for dosbox
1e2ecd No.14659781
>>14659744
Sadly no difference.
d6e4e9 No.14659796
>>14659781
by dev builds I mean SVN revisions, not the latest version off of their site.
bfa86c No.14659803
>>14659626
>>14659695
Shit, now I'm remembering this. First it was the name of the game, then the other anon mentioning Disney VHS tapes. I had more than a few and I now remember the ads for this game on them. Freaked me out a bit as a kid iirc
1e2ecd No.14659828
>>14659796
I know that, the one on EmuCR right?
d8a952 No.14660030
>>14659497
>Game barely works. Was like this on release
shogo played great in my shitty comp back in the day.
bd76ff No.14660032
>>14659314
It cannot be understated how important Mechwarrior 2 is. Retrokids think we all played Doom all day long, but PC gaming (and Amiga) was born from Mechwarrior and Monkey Island as well. You were bound to have a joystick and play this.
3dce59 No.14660045
>>14659695
Have you fucked her yet?
5d4c70 No.14660055
>>14659314
I remember having a very hard time trying to get Blade Runner to run that I gave up.
0eaf88 No.14660058
>>14660030
The game crashes and stutters even on older OS's. Like on my WinXp machine it doesn't run particularly stable. This is also something reviews at the time talked about specifically criticizing Monolith's engine.
1e2ecd No.14660063
>>14660045
Yes, many times.
f3aa9a No.14660064
>Star Trek Armada 1 and 2
Completely refuses to start on Windows 8+, even then modern video cards take a shot all over polygon rendering. Don't even try using a VM because its even worse with the graphics issues.
>Cabela's Off-road 4x4
Completely fails to recognize the required MMX instructions on modern AMD(presumably intel too) cpus.
>Rainbow Six retail release
Crashes no matter what.
I guess I'll look through my box of old PC games to find more.
>mech 2
>no cd audio in dosbox
That's strange, it works on my machine just fine. It probably helps that I'm using an iso off the internet in bin/cue format though. Also, out of the 50 different releases I'm sure one lacks the audio tracks.
5d4c70 No.14660073
1e2ecd No.14660077
>>14660055
God damn shame. That's a criminally-overlooked adventure game that deserves a GOG re-release.
>>14660032
Mechwarrior 2 was one of the cornerstones of mid-90's PC gaming. It's such a shame that it doesn't get the same treatment stuff like say, Doom or Command and Conquer does, or even fucking Myst of all things.
>>14660030
>>14660058
Older versions of Lithtech were really fucking wonky. Hopefully someday there's a reverse-engineer/engine rebuild done similar to what they did with Blood GDX or that Half-Life port (which was a special case I guess since they benefitted from the open source Quake code).
>>14660064
Good point, I might just have a shitty rip. I think I remember converting the image from a format I've never heard-of.
7e4987 No.14660080
>>14659406
Challenge accepted.
6524a0 No.14660094
>>14660080
At least you can jerk off to charmy
7e4987 No.14660096
>>14660094
I can't if its not fucking running. No Bee fapping for me.
efcec5 No.14660107
>>14660080
dude that game runs on my machine just fine.
f3aa9a No.14660113
>>14660077
Speaking of obscure formats, I've got a disk image of Starfleet Command III in img format I can't open. The only thing I could find was that maybe Macs used it, but other than that, I've only ever seen floppy images or DOS era photos in that format. It's a shame since it seems like a fun game from the trailers on my other Trek game discs.
6ea86e No.14660115
The PC version of this game was practically impossible to play for decades because of CPU timing issues, among other things, until very recently when someone made some PC fixes for it.
d6512a No.14660137
>>14660077
>it doesn't get the same treatment stuff like say, Doom or Command and Conquer does, or even fucking Myst of all things
IIRC there was some mad autist trying to either fix the game or make a source port for it, I can't quite remember, and either Piranha Games or Harmony Gold sent him a C&D.
3decb5 No.14660152
>>14660115
I'm curious, what kind of fixes?
edaba1 No.14660157
Heavy Gear. Good luck running the damn thing any anything newer than XP at best.
>>14660115
Thank god the PS1 version is easy to emulate.
3decb5 No.14660158
>>14660137
Bastards should probably re-release the fucking thing if they don't want other people trying to do it themselves.
3decb5 No.14660161
>>14660113
That is a shame, loss of digital media is a real thing, and I wish it was taken more-seriously.
af3bb1 No.14660168
>all these Windows 8.1/10 users
You did this to yourselves. There is zero reasons to use these OS besides being trendhopper.
d6512a No.14660175
>>14660157
Same shit for Blood Omen. Easier to emulate it than to run it natively on the PC.
>>14660158
At least they leave the other games that are freeware, like MechCommander, well enough alone. But yeah, someone should really do a source port, or something similar, to fix bugs and enhance compatibility.
Also, for anyone that has the Steam version of Freedom Force, to fix the fist bug the easiest way to make it work is just to copy the GOG exe and vsync folder.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/5solxq88t9nyidx/FF_steam_fix.zip?dl=0
6ba82f No.14660178
>>14660115
>supports 7 random graffix apis
>none of them fucking work including the one for your specific brand of card
>mfw 90s me brought the game home
6ea86e No.14660179
f3aa9a No.14660186
>>14660161
Hopefully I can find another image of that game or DD it from linux.
>>14660168
Yep, I decided to try it out and now I'm too lazy to back up my shit and reinstall a different OS. The OS issues compound pretty heavily with the hardware ones for old games.
d6512a No.14660190
>>14660186
I really dread what we'll do once MS stops supporting Windows 7, because no matter how bad 8 is, 10 is on a whole new level of awful, and the Pajeet in charge seems pretty fixated on the idea to turn Windows into a service and foist the rotting carcass on W10 on everyone.
3decb5 No.14660191
>>14660175
Blood Omen takes some tinkering, but the instant load times are pretty nice on PC.
Yeah, it pisses me off they have that agressive stance. I won't buy shit from them.
efcec5 No.14660194
>>14660191
>>14660175
Should try out the source port, Blood Omnicide.
3decb5 No.14660196
>>14660179
Ah, yes. Good ol' Peixoto. This fix has been around for a little while from what I recall, but it's always nice to have. He's made some good fixes for other games like Blood Omen too I think.
d6512a No.14660198
>>14660194
There's a source port now? Fuck me. How do people keep up with all the source ports coming out?
3decb5 No.14660200
>>14660194
Not sure I'd call that a sourceport, but it looks fucking sick. Like something SV Kaiser (the Doom 64 EX developer) would have had a hand in.
f3aa9a No.14660205
>>14660190
Windows 10 is pretty much just Windows 8 with a slightly more tolerable UI and twice the botnet. Luckily, Wine will probably work for all the games that matter by then and new games may universally support Linux. 2020 is still two years away and so is my eventual disappointment in the inaccuracies of my predictions
efcec5 No.14660213
>>14660198
>>14660200
I guess it's a mod, but the way they redid the sound is fucking killer along with the shadows when you go indoors.
3decb5 No.14660222
>>14660213
It looks really nice, not so sure about the outdoor environments but the dungeons and indoor environments look awesome.
9eb71d No.14660254
one of my favourite rts games
but god damn, it's pretty much pure chance whether it will even turn on
and even if it does, the sound only ever plays like 1/4 of the time
b88859 No.14660268
Pirating anything on Linux is a bitch, even with Wine.
d6512a No.14660322
>>14660254
This reminds me we live in an era so gay and filled with soy no one is busy making good games where giant mechs beat the shit out of each other.
Also, wasn't MechWarrior 3 notoriously difficult to run? I remember reading about it, though I personally never experienced much difficulty myself. Maybe I was just lucky.
efcec5 No.14660330
>>14660268
search for appimages, thank me never
6fb37e No.14660353
>>14659617
>tracers becoming solid lasers
That sounds awesome. It turned into G.I. Joe A Real American Hero, and here you are complaining.
f3aa9a No.14660356
>>14660322
The demo seemed to work fine in Wine on my laptop, at least as well as on my 9x machine. I think the main issue is the physics can bug out on you with faster hardware.
685871 No.14660365
>>14660115
At least re2 and re3 run fine
c93347 No.14660450
>>14659626
Holy fuck I remember seeing an ad for this game from some VHS tape that I can't remember for the life of me.
The game looked bretty spooky.
655c31 No.14660601
>>14659497
GOG really deserves some credit for re releasing games in a playable state. The GOG forums are also filled with people who are helpful and knowledgeable.
Steam forums on the other hand are SHIT and Valve doesn't care about what they are selling.
Pirate old games but consider buying new games at GOG, they deserve some shekels.
d6512a No.14660623
>>14660601
>GOG really deserves some credit for re releasing games in a playable state
A lot of those games use scene cracks and/or community patches.
>The GOG forums are also filled with people who are helpful and knowledgeable.
Steam forums also have helpful advice. Granted, GOG forums are mostly moderated better, or they receive less traffic, whatever the reason they do have less garbage threads.
>and Valve doesn't care about what they are selling
It's not Valve's fault if a developer doesn't update or fix their game.
>inb4 Steam fanboy
I'm not, and it's recommended to pirate any game you can get away with, I'm just annoyed with GOG fanboyism.
fd76df No.14660642
>>14659796
Is it just MW2 that there's no CD audio on 0.74? Because it definitely works for Mercenaries and Magic Carpet 2.
IMGMOUNT d "E:\mercs\iso\mw2mercs.cue" -t iso -fs iso
e:
cd /mercs
MERCS.EXE
mount -u d
e:
cd /
There's my startup script.
dab4f0 No.14660645
71f9f9 No.14660656
>>14659314
>Bonus points if your only choice is to use a VM.
The only time I ran a VM was to play Neverhood.
fd76df No.14660674
>>14660662
If you think it's any better to run proprietary games bare metal then just neck yourself. At least segregate it to its own computer and keep it offline as best as you can.
Also Wine has the "plugin hell" type issue where you sometimes need an older version to run a game (found this with Dungeon Keeper), and some games really don't work at all.
fd76df No.14660698
>>14660683
It doesn't need to be a Linux-specific rootkit to be doing shady things and sending them out to somewhere, numbnuts. Wine explicitly says that it isn't a sandbox. Again, keep a spare system, like people used to do historically. It's safest. There's also the fact that if you're playing modern games that your hardware is probably full of nasty stuff (NVIDIA blob in your kernel, Intel ME, AMD PSP, too many to list).
b1d569 No.14660736
This runs like shit on modern systems, surprised that there isn't an open source engine replacement, ran like shit last I tried it.
fd309a No.14660765
>>14660736
>he doesn't know about unofficial patches
there there anon I'm here to spoonfeed you
http://alphacentauri2.info/wiki/Installing
e28860 No.14661631
This is a perfect thread. Bought recently some 15 years old pc games. They are a bitch to find in the internet now even if you found one running with working patches. Most of the bought old games are struggling on 1080p resolution on my mid-tier pc.
ba46ac No.14662103
>>14660080
Aside from the fact I had to map the camera rotation controls to buttons rather then the stick. I didn't really encounter any problems, It was certainty worked out better then trying to emulate the game on dolphin which gave me a ton of graphical glitches.
664090 No.14662306
People have been having trouble running Rock Raiders, but after some random fiddling, I managed to get it running on Windows 8.1 with a few limitations.
I haven't tested it on 7, 10 or Wine, so feel free to tell me if it blows:
https://mega.nz/#F!xkcGnDKA!NW-TPUzI2aRyIf2D-OdpaA
664090 No.14662318
d6512a No.14662364
Does anyone know of a way to not make Rome 1 run like dogshit on a modern system with an AMD GPU? And, yes, I've already tried the DirectX wrapper, didn't do much at all.
I just reinstalled it after a few years and discovered it runs like shit.
c834c5 No.14662523
Where do you guys get your .exe cracks for older PC games (for No CD, to break old DRM, etc)? I've always gone to megagames.com, and they appear to still be running.
My biggest fear regarding my old games is that even if I have an old computer to play on or a VM, I won't be able to find .exe cracks.
aaabbb No.14663271
>>14660601
Yeah straight up. I still remember just how much shit I had to do to get Jedi Knight working on a modern PC. Then GOG releases their version and it fixes everything. (Except the hardware renderer but I never used it anyway)
>>14660645
I've used this version but it still suffers from a lot of the same problems. (Albiet the widescreen works better). The Ddraw problem still occurs which required me to use dgvoodoo.
A lot of these problems can only truly be fixed if the engine code was released and it's almost certain that'll never happen now. I heard back when Night Dive was still interested in re-releasing NOLF they had access to it so if they ever throw their hat back in that race they might finally properly fix the game.
38dc7a No.14663304
>>14659314
Just get the Russian Quadrology pack. Installs Dosbox all preconfigured for MW2. Just remember to learn the "Increase clock speed" shortcut for Dosbox.
aaabbb No.14663320
>>14660601
Another game that used to be flat out broken til GOG got it. Now it just works. (Albiet they broke the superior software renderer. The software renderer had this neat Sepia tone to the game whereas the hardware renderer washes out all of the colors. I had to remove nglide to get it to work)
aaabbb No.14663366
>>14660623
>GOG really deserves some credit for re releasing games in a playable state
>A lot of those games use scene cracks and/or community patches.
GOG actually uses a few proprietary technologies for their fixes. The best example is they have a custom system for playing redbook audio in specific games. A good example is Quake 1 on GOG uses this to play the OST (the Steam version of the game lacks the ost completely. You have to dl it separately and use a source port). Another example is Jedi Knight normally has the Star Wars OST play on specific maps and in specific moments but on the Steam version it completely goes silent. (There was some fix where someone hacked together this winamp playlist but it wasn't as good as the GOG version)
105467 No.14665107
Pretty much anything that requires dosbox is hard to run as dosbox doesn't even come close to properly emulating hardware back then. Timing is completely fucked beyond all reason in almost every game that was relying on the CPU frequency no matter what settings you go with. It's very obvious if you've played those games on real 286-386 systems.
fd76df No.14665134
>>14665058
Are you OK? Do you have brain damage? I do most of my computing tasks on an older system with open BIOS and Intel ME disabled. Games and stuff are on worse systems but ones that are generally kept offline and not used for anything serious.
fd309a No.14665348
good fucking luck
at least there's a fanmade fix for Ecco PC
http://web8.orcaserver.de/ecco/downloads/games/index.php
5c4aca No.14665480
>>14662306
>>14662318
Thanks for this. I posted in another thread about this. www.rockraidersunited.com has some guides to get old lego games running and mods.
ed03cb No.14665501
>>14659314
>CD music will not work, no-matter how specifically you have it set up
works on my machine
you have to get CD rips that include the tracks (e.g. a .bin rip that includes the audio tracks accompanied by a .cue sheet that specifies the location of the tracks) and just mount the .cue with dosbox
4c99f5 No.14665752
>>14663366
>>14660623
I know GOG uses a lot of community work but I don't see that as a bad thing. If someone wrote a fix 10 years ago it can be hard to find. Its nice to have someone just implement it and have it "plug and play".
2ed874 No.14665972
>>14659314
Actually I have MechWarrior 2 running with CD music on Win7 64 bit. However it was the result of a prepackaged community installer so I'm not entirely sure what voodoo occurred. I can also run the Win95 version but it crashes like mad so I don't.
2ed874 No.14665994
>>14663304
>>14665972
>Russian Quadrology
I think this is the one I also used
7d299a No.14666038
Only way to play this motherfucker right is emulating the PS1 version, and that version is shit and it misses a lot of features from the PC version like the cool menus. Among the problems of the PC version stands
>Running in a tiny ass resolution
>Color palette problems
>Glitched visuals
>Problems during screen transitions
>Game doesn't go beyond the volcano level
I really really want to finish it.
fd309a No.14666061
pcgamingwiki has a link to a patch that should fix at least some of the issues
http://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=53121
I have an old ISO on my drive, gonna fire it up later and see how far I get with the patch
fd309a No.14666063
d5b424 No.14666099
Any anons know how to make Warhammer Dark Omen and Shadow of The Horned Rat PC version work for Windows 10
7d299a No.14666125
>>14666063
>>14666061
Thanks anon. I will try it once I get home today, hopefully. Wonder if they fixed the Volcano level thing. It doesn't go beyond the cutscene, it just crashes.
3decb5 No.14666144
9085f1 No.14666199
>>14663304
The Slavs know no bounds when it comes to older vidya. God bless them.
7d299a No.14666216
I just remembered. The original release of Sonic DX was a complete fucking mess and still is a mess, even the steam port.
The problems of compability of the original release go to having shitty joystick controllers so even when it recognize modern controllers the camera is always glitched to spin to the left and go first person. And yet, both the original and steam version are a fucking downgrade from what the original Dreamcast game was maybe except in models, and yet, that doesn't make it for shit textures and in all actuallity, even the original models had it's charm.
9085f1 No.14666233
>>14666216
That reminds me how Soul Reaver's controller support is completely-busted, as-well-as not having the dynamic music from the PS1 version or the upgraded visuals from the Dreamcast version, making it more-ideal to just emulate one of the console versions.
Not a particularly hard to run port, just a bad one.
ea988f No.14666294
>>14659497
>Different parts of the game are drawn using different versions of Direct X
>Have to use a Direct Draw Emulator to get the game to run properly
Jankiest thing I've ever heard a developer do.
e443ea No.14666303
Quake 4 I know it's not really all that old but still it was the biggest pain in the ass to get running I have ever encountered
9085f1 No.14666332
>>14666303
The cracked version was a bitch.
Thank God it came to GOG.
0934c4 No.14666343
Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City and San Andreas. All are on shitty Renderware Rockstar coding and unless the game is locked at 30 FPS the game physics break, you can die randomly, swimming is really slow and some missions don't work. Pic related can also occasionally happen.
29a9b0 No.14666469
I've never seen this game run properly on anything but a proper Windows XP PC, and I've tried everything I could think of that isn't PCem.
http://mapleford.net/d5-dot/gpx/download.html
5ec75f No.14666484
>>14659314
Splinter Cell should only be played on original xbox.
d693b8 No.14666512
>>14663304
>Just get the Russian Quadrology pack
link?
aaabbb No.14666513
>>14666303
>Quake 4
>A game you just run a command-line option to fix the texture resolution
>The game runs in widescreen by default and has no further problems beyond that
>Even the FOV works properly by default
>hard to run
Really anon?
>>14666343
>Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City and San Andreas. All are on shitty Renderware Rockstar coding and unless the game is locked at 30 FPS the game physics break, you can die randomly, swimming is really slow and some missions don't work. Pic related can also occasionally happen.
I wouldn't say this is unique to the PC versions of these games. Since they were developed for the PS2 in mind first and had ran at 30 on there. They also had bugs like this all the time.
I will also say that I only really noticed issues with San Andreas running at an uncapped framerate. With GTA3/Vice City it was fine.
fc1787 No.14666524
>>14666233
The game also had a chance of corrupting your save file, if you saved anywhere, except in the starting area with the Elder God. Though, at least it was quite easy to "warp" there, just get "killed" in the spirit world, and you would be teleported to him.
d693b8 No.14666541
>>14660058
> Like on my WinXp machine it doesn't run particularly stable
>Shogo
>September 30, 1998
>windows xp
>October 25, 2001
>windows 95
>availability August 24, 1995
have you tried windows 95? I used that OS to play shogo when i was a wee little lad.
>>14660157
>Heavy Gear.
wait, didnt they fix that shit?
>XP at best
>mfw i have a xp machine hooked up
damn, i will give it a run
aaabbb No.14666553
>>14666541
>have you tried windows 95?
Windows 95 computers are harder to obtain (most people upgraded to 98/XP) and there's less you can do with them. Since most applications require you to at least use XP (I think remote desktop even requires XP as well). It becomes just a single machine for 2-3 PC games that takes up a lot of space.
The other option is running a VM but that's even more of a hassle and usually doesn't work properly.
9085f1 No.14666556
>>14666484
Who are you gonna play with on Xbox?
9085f1 No.14666565
>>14666524
Didn't even know about that problem, but that really sucks.
5ec75f No.14666578
>>14666556
You do know that just like with PC for old games where the servers are discontinued there are fan services that return online to the orignal xbox right? So, yeah, lots of people. Not to mention that I mod xboxes for my friends…
6aba10 No.14667250
Not really that hard, but its a pain to load up road rash every time.
>xpadder required to be able to use all of my controller buttons
>need a virtual drive to load the disc because the nodisc crack doesn't work with the
>modified .bat file so the colors aren't screwed up
>windows resolution needs to be set to 800x600 first or else the image will be stretched too wide
Still worth it over the console version's resolution, framerate, and basically everything else but I wish it had a re-release that fixed all of this.
2bbfb1 No.14667593
>>14662306
I remember this being a pain in the ass when it was brand new too, not to mention the "lego dudes go on strike and eat sandwiches at the union office support station forever feature"
9085f1 No.14668084
>>14663304
Holy fuck that Russian Quadrology pack worked beautifully, this is some GoG-tier quality, even the CD music works now! Thank you very-much anon.
>>14666512
Here ya go bud.
https://monova.org/1A139318FAA15F4AB5BF4B48735D43A531FBBE6D
5458c2 No.14668101
>>14668084
Guess it's time I give this series a try. I'm not a huge mech guy but this seems the place to start.
9085f1 No.14668156
>>14668101
If you like it you should try Steel Battalion… only thing is you need an Xbox and an expensive peripheral controller to play it. Xbox emulation is coming-along though so it may not be forever before you get to play it that way.
d693b8 No.14668200
>>14668084
>Here ya go bud.
i wont blame you if its dolphin porn
781435 No.14668234
>>14668200
Downloading it now. File structure looks solid. I probably should have opened it in a VM though
9085f1 No.14668251
>>14668234
I went ahead and installed it and there's no signs of fuckery. It was actually done by RG Catalyst which are a relatively reputable and popular group in the cracking scene.
fd76df No.14669944
>>14667892
Better yet, run them on a separate system instead. The newer laptop I have serves that purpose. The 2008 thing I replaced it with has Intel ME neutered and open bootloader.
>>14668103
>Tor faggot continues to lack a brain
About the only proprietary software on my main system is microcode updates for the CPU (unlikely risk though anything is possible, and otherwise there are sporadic kernel panics) and stuff that's in DOSBox since that's actually unlikely to be malware, compared to a typical modern game.
57dbf5 No.14669951
You know, I have the exodos fullset, you just run a bat file, decompress shit and install a game via the meagre frontend, it installs the cd and everything so you don't have to fuck with it. I can upload some of the obscure CD games that don't have gog repacks if anyone want any.
7a06cf No.14669970
>>14660601
There was literally nothing wrong with GOG when it was still good old games, primarily concerned with making old games playable on modern systems. You can't shit on that. The problems arose when they tried to become steam.
57dbf5 No.14670058
>>14669970
Selling repacks of abandonware is scummy as fuck, do people even know if the devs themselves get kickbacks from it or not? It's not like they actually fix it themselves, they just repack fixes other people made and sell it.
ad802a No.14670135
>>14666343
the Silent Patches and GInput mods work wonders for getting these to run properly on PC. more info on PCGW
18d807 No.14670218
>>14669951
Sounds good thanks.
>>14666513
>With GTA3/Vice City it was fine.
Time to give that a shot then. Some missions haven't aged well at all but the vast majority have.
>>14670135
Is the VC RC helocopter mission any better when using a controller vs K+M?
294f70 No.14670227
>>14659626
Why not just use PCem or install W95 on Dosbox?
56f417 No.14670237
>first PC game I ever owned was MechWarrior 3
>have extremely fond memories of MechCommander Gold
I miss simpler times
ed03cb No.14670250
>>14670229
I played MechCommander Gold for the first time three years ago. Absolutely brilliant game. I rank it up there with the likes of Quake and System Shock.
All the MW4 games/expansions are really flawed though and MechCommander 2 is just plain bad.
2ed874 No.14670252
>>14668101
Each of the entries in the series plays very differently. MW2 has a lot of fundamental differences, for example there are no hitscan weapons (lasers are like star wars blasters) and Mechs die very quickly, most of the weapon reload times are much faster than in later games, and it features the best/coolest/most lore accurate jump jets. MW3 is a bitch to get running as well but features independent arm movement and actual lasers, definitely a good entry in the series if you can get it running. MW4 is still good but a step backwards; all the weapons except long toms, missiles and I think gauss rifles are hitscan and to compensate all the weapon recycle times are longer. The long recycle times tend to make heat management easier and as a result there is almost no reason at all not to always use the heaviest Mech possible unless you are playing a specific mission where time is critical, whereas many missions in MW2 Mercs were time critical or you didn't need to kill all of the enemy Mechs to end the mission, which was a risk anyway since you might take more damage which would incur costs.
56f417 No.14670259
>>14670250
I meant MechWarrior 3. It's been so long since I played it that it takes me a second to remember which entry it is at first. But yeah, MC Gold was fantastic. I've thought about going back to it from time to time. Never played the 2nd one, shame it's apparently shit.
2ed874 No.14670261
>>14670252
Oh yeah, and MW4 eliminated critical slots from the MechLab entirely, which means you don't have to work about things taking up physical space in your Mech, which means you can stack as many heat sinks as you want without it taking away from space for other things. The only decent thing they did was enforce weapon hardpoints for customization.
8663fe No.14670274
>>14659497
Surprisingly when I tried nolf last time I only required the altered installer and the widescreen fix. I guess I didn't use snipers that much or didn't notice.
If you want janky, try hunting down and installing Star Wars Episode I : Racer for the PC. The game files and installer will have to be sourced separately as on installer source is corrupted and doesn't work.
If you do somehow manage to find the correct files, the sound doesn't work regardless of compatibility mode because it doesn't play nice with any usb headsets I've tried, I do not know if this is fixed by using a line-out / classic headset or speakers but I suspect not as the sound options are limited to searching for a sound card which most people don't use now.
Sometimes it'll just crash when trying to load a map, altering a vehicle or doing anything.
The crashing doesn't bother me so much as a lack of sound: sound is critical to lend weight/realness to a racing game.
8663fe No.14670281
>>14662523
I get them from the original cds I still have :^)
991056 No.14670319
>>14659314
Original PC Chaos Theory disc does not work on new Windows 10 computer. Old Windows XP computer stopped working,
fd76df No.14670323
>>14670319
StarForce DRM it uses doesn't work on 64-bit either. You need a crack.
6afd5f No.14670333
>>14670319
>How dare you play a game you paid for, you filthy pirate.
This is what publishers actually believe.
991056 No.14670341
>>14670323
>>14670333
Fucking hell I need to pirate a game I own.
cfbc06 No.14670355
>>14670341
original xbox master race
fd76df No.14670360
>>14670333
>>14670341
I had an even better fuck-you moment when trying to get Future Cop LAPD a while after its release. Turns out some copies are faulty and the disc isn't detected by whatever DRM it uses. There's a crack somewhere but nowadays I play the Playstation version.
fd309a No.14670362
>>14670274
>The game files and installer will have to be sourced separately
>1st result on TPB
nigger did you even try looking or did you just come to whine
aa3ccc No.14670551
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14659314
Mechwarrior 2 Director called his dad one day and said "It would be cool if there was a movie about shakespeare when he was just starting" and his dad took that and wrote Shakespeare in Love and it won an oscar or something. Have some Interstate 76 music.
578fe5 No.14670770
>>14670323
Ha this happened with me on Dreamfall. Publisher released a crack though. Might still be up.
3decb5 No.14671734
>>14669951
Go for it, anon. That would make me happy.
>>14670551
Got a source on that? I see no-relation between Zach Norman and Marc Norman outside of having the same last name. Fucking crazy if any of it's true though.
>>14670319
You know DRM is a lost fucking cause when the publisher uses a crack to patch the game years later.
>>14670274
Damn shame, at-least the Dreamcast version emulates okay.
29a9b0 No.14672053
>>14670274
I'm almost sure I've seen a source port of that being worked on recently, let me see if I can dig that shit up.
29a9b0 No.14672058
8a88a2 No.14672091
>>14659368
The American version looks way different from the Nip version.
65b0c1 No.14672152
The Last Stand 2 was made 10 years ago and trying to play it in a modern computer it really shows:
>Zombies run significantly faster and hit the barricade more often
>Zombies also spawn in tighter packs as the computer loads them faster
>The menus that are intended to stay off screen and slide in when selected peek partly off the edges at all times on any modern resolution
I also bought way back a Grandma II disk that I couldn't play then because I failed to notice the "DOES not WORK IN WINDOWS XP" sticker on the back. My brother still gives me shit for that to this day.
65b0c1 No.14672165
>>14672152
>Grandma II
*GRANDIA II
pls no banner
3decb5 No.14672199
a57b72 No.14672531
>>14670058
GOG doesn't sell abandonware because there is no such thing. And no the devs don't get money. They never do. The people who actually OWN the rights get the money.
For instance if you buy Deus Ex GOTY the money goes to SquareEnix.
8762a8 No.14672702
>>14670058
>Selling repacks of abandonware is scummy as fuck
1) What is "abandonware"?
2) Why is it "scummy as fuck"?
ba46ac No.14672795
>>14672702
it's in the name, Pretty much any game once it's old enough becomes abandonware, as in it's abandoned by the devs and publishers.
I don't know enough about GoG to judge, but if it's true that they are selling games that use fixes that other people made and put out for free, then that isn't exactly an honest thing to do.
6afd5f No.14672825
>>14672795
I think GOG usually says they're using community patches. The alternative is having a broken game.
ba46ac No.14672959
>>14672920
>Bullshit. No "right holder" gives their "property" away a second sooner than they are required by law.
I could be wrong with my definition, but when I think Abandonware I think of something that no rights holder on earth would still give a shit about, like movie games. A year after the movie is no longer in theaters, they go out of print and are forgotten for the rest of time.
ba46ac No.14672960
>>14672959
Then again, I didn't think about taking those games and selling them again without contacting the rights holder.
f8a397 No.14673021
>>14659497
You want to know why Lithtech was a shit show?
>Monolith creates CD filled with music and graphical effects showing off their prowess
>Microsoft hires them to compile a demo disc for Windows 95 games
>Microsoft and Monolith get together to create an engine for use with DirectX
>support for Glide was planned but it was too hard to program
>custom scripting engine was also axed
>Riot and Blood 2 are both in development
>Riot was another product of a partnership between Monolith and Microsoft
>Monolith decides to go independent, scrap the deal with Microsoft and change the name of DirectEngine to Lithtech, and Riot to Shogo
>still heavily dependent on old DirectX
>Shogo and Blood 2 were released unfinished
Thanks a lot Bill.
7ac884 No.14673074
deadly premonition's pc port is complete ass
3decb5 No.14675880
fb36cd No.14683509
>>14668084
>download commie mechgame
>install
>launch mechwarrior 4
>game windows doesnt fit, but it only takes a few pixels up and down
>it fucking corrupts all colors
>but it get fixes if i alt tab between missions
>change configuration
>but it doesnt save it for some damn fucking reason
help, i just want to play at MAX graphics and full resolution
d0c145 No.14683588
>>14659406
That motherfucker barely ran at the time.
I built a windows 98 machine for shits and giggles to play all the classic Lego games on. Lego Loco and Lego Island are the shit if you're a fucking autist like I am.
ab4a57 No.14683604
>>14673021
Monolith is as much to blame for dragging that shit engine along for so long.
278e0e No.14683616
You need to manually edit cfg files in the game for all 20-30 songs in the OST and do a few more manual edits afterwards or else the game will crash on start.
241a46 No.14683793
>Thread about games that are hard to run
>Thread is mostly about basic shit like editing an .cfg file or following a fucking guide
ba557d No.14684804
>>14672795
>Pretty much any game once it's old enough becomes abandonware, as in it's abandoned by the devs and publishers.
Copyright on games is 70 years anon.
Before GOG old videogames just disappeared. Thanks to GOG they can still be played. Sure piracy exists but who who was seeding old games?
91cefc No.14684817
>>14683616
I'd never heard about editing the cfg files for the OST, do you have any more info on this?
7e460e No.14684904
>>14684804
> who was seeding old games?
ROM and emulator sites? russian virus hosters with links to rapidshare and old MEGAupload?