289ed2 No.14631884
So i notice people tend to be one or the other. For example comparing myself to a friend in terms of fighting games.
I am used to stuff like monster hunter that gets autistic in its "you get out what you put in" style and i never get too into fighting games because i feel i need to find a character, learn its moves by heart and git gud. While my friend buys every fighting game on release and goes "what? m8 its a button basher you just hammer buttons and win or dont its not a job" and that mindset mildly horrifies me.
Which do you lean to? getting into a games systems and really learning your shit and min maxing? or happy go lucky 'just for fun' and going ham until you hit a wall?
e25699 No.14631892
1c8f4a No.14631893
>>14631884
>getting into a games systems and really learning your shit and min maxing? or happy go lucky 'just for fun' and going ham until you hit a wall?
The latter resulted in the casual crap you see now though.
f49c6e No.14631911
I do whatever is faster
I am not going to use shit that looks good over something that is more powerful but I am also not going to do the IV/EV autism in pokemon.
f25794 No.14631914
>>14631884
>Mh is a technical game
dude what
While I'm at it, I've never before heard someone use the term button basher over button masher
a55084 No.14631924
I'm the fag who always reads the manual before he plays the game
>>14631893
>experimenting is casualization
nigger what?
e1b561 No.14631926
Button bashing is for literal niggers
289ed2 No.14631930
>>14631911
I think its a spectrum, almost like some kind of ….autism spectrum, and theres button bash>reads the manual and tutorials>min maxes>does actual spreadsheet math>EV tier grand autismo and so on.
289ed2 No.14631931
>>14631926
Capcom pls, no thuggery shaming
e25699 No.14631932
>>14631914
Ever done an angry a-press?
b38734 No.14631935
>>14631884
So why are they using a separate TV on a table instead of just plugging in the PS4 to the TV mounted on the wall just a few feet behind it? It doesn't seem like the TV they are using would have any significant advantages.
289ed2 No.14631938
>>14631935
Nigga you don't even know the refresh rates.
902409 No.14631939
>>14631884
In practice, I try my hardest to be technical. In execution, though, I tend to mash buttons. It seems like more of a knee jerk response than something I'm deliberately trying to do, though, so maybe I just have to learn to stop.
f25794 No.14631940
>>14631935
You'd be surprised how many big 'cinematic' tvs old people get suckered into buying actually have shit resolution and bad refresh rates.
7c1894 No.14631941
I mash hadoken until I win
7c1894 No.14631946
>>14631941
okay that's a lie i throw in a shoryuken if they get close
I'm the type that finds a zero risk way to win (often at range) and rely on it and it alone.
289ed2 No.14631951
>>14631946
Full havelfag pls
1c8f4a No.14631953
>>14631924
>nigger what?
How is button bashing experimentation? Or can you not read?
7c1894 No.14631964
>>14631951
Worse, a full havelfag sorcerer
f25794 No.14631969
No really, where did this button 'bashing' term come from? All I can think of is everyone in the this thread as some kind of chimpanzee literally pounding a controller with their fist.
Am I really that out of touch?
3ec8bf No.14631975
>button mashing past the age of 12
I think that button mashing in a fighting game is abhorrent. I will admit to doing a bit of it in games like bayonetta, but that's a bit more forgivable due to the amount of moves and style sets.
e25699 No.14631981
>>14631969
It's the mandela effect bro
>>14631975
Would you "mash" a twelve year old?
2cbb15 No.14631983
>>14631911
Basically this, I usually start a game on medium difficulty and just play how I want, then if I need to do better I'll adjust my playstyle. I don't get autistic about it unless I'm into the game enough to do a subsequent playthrough on hard mode.
289ed2 No.14631993
>>14631969
>button-basher
>1. Someone who randomly or vigorously presses or 'bashes' buttons, especially those of video game controllers. See: button-bashing.
>2. A video game where the gameplay descends into the mindless random, or repeated, pressing of a button or buttons. See: button-bashing.
>3. A fighting (video) game, such as Virtua Fighter, Soulcalibur or Tekken, etc.
>"I'm not playing Tekken with you because it's just a mindless button-basher. Plus, you're gay."
I bet you come from a timeline where fucking kanye is president.
3ec8bf No.14631994
>>14631981
Of course not Mr. FBI. That would be highly illegal.
db5b00 No.14632000
>>14631953
For the people who don't read or don't have(in the case of used games in the 90's) the manual, When you first play a game you start mashing all the buttons, trying to learn what each thing does. Normalfags don't do this as far as i can tell, they have to rely on a tutorial to guide them through each and every specific action, and even they may not get it.
10f9b4 No.14632004
>>14631969
>everyone is saying button-bashing rather than button-mashing
>>14631981
>It's the mandela effect bro
holy shit ur right
e45103 No.14632006
>>14631914
I didn't even notice he said basher instead of masher, good catch. Never heard that either, you're a weirdo OP
289ed2 No.14632013
>>14632004
You mash potatos not buttons you donut.
000000 No.14632167
>>14631884
I do both. Just because I like digging into mechanics and min-maxing doesn't mean I can't have fun dicking around.
1c6cd5 No.14632195
The girl on the left's neck is fucking broken.
cae02a No.14632202
I just roll my head on the keyboard until the cumputor makes funny sounds and colors.
5043fc No.14632335
>>14631884
There are methods in between
I tend to just play the game for fun whithout minding techniques and what character I'm playing. Then with time playing it I start to realize fun/efficient shit to do and characters that I prefer over others.
5e6097 No.14632381
>>14631969
Never once have I heard it as bashing. Who the fuck says that?
289ed2 No.14632446
>>14632381
>he's not button bashing in his digital viddly wids.
come on m80, not even top banana/10
e25699 No.14632547
>>14632446
top opo, my virtualized acquaintance
a13677 No.14632978
>play MGR for the first time
>am a terminal button masher, all i do is spam attacks
>manage to brute force my way through the game on Normal
>die five million times to Monsoon and then AI Monsoon
>barely manage to get through him through sheer luck
>just got to Monsoon and only now figured out that you can do a dodge attack
I feel so fucking retarded I bet I couldn't even kill myself correctly.
a13677 No.14632982
>>14632978
Fuck I meant Sundowner.
d7855b No.14633031
Neither, actually. My attitude tends to be "go with what I like the most thematically and fuck the devs if they made it underpowered or shit" when I play a game for the first time. I don't play games for "mindless fun" because that doesn't really excite me anymore.
In the long term, games have to have a decently high skill ceiling for me to enjoy them because I just don't get interested in anything that doesn't have depth. I don't understand people like DSP and likely the guy OP mentioned who play games just to "mash buttons" and never actually learn from their mistakes. What's the fun in that?
aecdd7 No.14633687
>>14632978
I played it on PC with a KB/M and failed so hard at countering that i gave up at Monsoon. The conclusion was that i must be retarded.
cfbd09 No.14633744
>>14632978
Wait what? It's a static image why does it look like it's moving
cb704c No.14633773
Button mashing when I panic, play alone.
In versus, mashing is apparent to pros and non-casual fightan players.
Might as well hang your head in shame if you mash when playing other people
3aa50f No.14633790
You faggots from universe 31 with your button bashing are just as bad as the faggots from universe 846 with their button mashing. It has always been button smashing. Stop memeing stupid shit into my universe.
2aaa04 No.14633792
I'm a button masher at games you can cheese with button mashing.
18db38 No.14633799
>>14632978
>>14632982
I've heard a multitude of anons talk about how they didn't know there was a counter until the Sundowner fight, which they were unable to beat unless they discovered.
780289 No.14633806
>>14631884
>button bashing
It's button mashing you uneducated swine, and It's not button mashing if you know what you're trying to do with the buttons you're mashing
677d1e No.14633825
I play games to test my skill–i.e., the whole point of a game. So yes, I attempt to get good at the games I play.
cbb686 No.14633834
aecdd7 No.14633853
>>14633834
making Stop threads.
a13677 No.14633885
>>14633744
I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with something we don't have.
8a40b3 No.14633889
>>14632978
I only learned how to use Defensive Offense when fighting Armstrong on Insanity, or whatever the difficulty after beating the game on the highest one was, so basically I was on my second playthrough. It made an impossibly hard battle(especially when he tries to bear hug you), to piss easy, with just one move.
For Monsoon, a friend of mine, gave me the secret, use EMP grenades when he uses the smoke grenade to stun him and end the smoke section, or whenever he is powered up.
For Sundowner I used the sai to negate his electrical shield, never thought him in his second phase, didn't even know he had one until I saw a video.
>>14631884
If it's a new game, and I am playing it with a friend, I won't waste his time by looking at combos, I will pick a random character, I will just button-mash. If I win or loose, I will pick another character, because I am there to have fun with a friend, not to systematically mop the floor with him. If I were to go to a competition, then I would pick a character and learn his/her combos.
a13677 No.14633897
>>14633889
I actually beat Sundowner a few mins ago just now, the key is to use Zandatsu and cancel out his exploding shield to make him go into his 2nd form then give it all you got
Even then I only had 0.2% of my health left.
11f6d7 No.14638914
aa3f1a No.14642602
>>14631884
Button masher all day.
413726 No.14642998
>>14631975
>I will admit to doing a bit of it in games like bayonetta
The game's entire fighting system IS button mashing, that's why it and other hack and slash games of similar style like DMC or Nier: Ass are shit.
b2ecdf No.14643058
Min Maxing and learning your shit is two entirely different things.
f8630b No.14643068
>>14632978
>>14633889
You can dodge the monsoon's smoke bomb.
d2743d No.14646151
>>14642602
Scrub git fucking gud.
bd46b7 No.14646519
72d824 No.14647350
>>14633799
>>14632978
>>14633889
It sucks that so many of the mechanics in MGR are difficult for people to pick up on. I can excuse people not knowing about defensive offense, as on your first playthrough you might not be the type of person who wants to max out their movelist, or know what's going to be useful later on. But then there's simple things like parrying and lock-on, which I've seen people flat out ignore try watching Joseph Anderson's MGR playthrough, it's maddening. Granted, the game doesn't spell these things out for you, except for parrying in the optional tutorial, but for some reason people can completely miss them. Maybe it's just that the game doesn't convey things in the right way. For example, when you fight the ray n the beginning of the game it's supposed to teach you that you can cut things in blade mode when they're blue, but this message is a bit confusing because it triggers a scripted event where you just cut wildly instead opening blademode yourself and doing it.
The only thing that really tripped me up in the game was during the final Armstrong fight; where he throws the boulders at you. Everytime I'd try to cut them really fast I'd miss the cut and fail, like I'd have it all lined up perfectly and when I'd release it would just move and fuck up. It turns out that the blademode segment there is in slow motion (which I somehow never picked up on), so when you line up the cut you have to give extra time for Raiden's arms to get into position. Never figured that out till my S-rank revengeance run.
>>14633897
I hate the Sundowner fight. The music kicks ass but you'll never hear it because you can crush him really easily if you know what you're doing, and the fact that the fight's segmented doesn't help. In fact he's so easy that you can actually kill him in under a minute and not get an S rank, because you won't get the extra zandatsu points if you don't kill the guys he calls in for backup. That pissed me off, had to do the whole mission over when I was going for the revengeance trophy. Also cutting his defenses off can be a bit tricky because your sword can clip corners on what looks to be a good cut.
e7a882 No.14647516
I do what's most effective. Button mashing works sometimes because of how unpredictable it is. Beats faggots who thinks they are pro's because they watched or learned some strategies.
8efa1e No.14647835
Don't play much cuhrayzee and barely play fightan, although I'm working on the former. I'm trying not to button mash but I'm so shit I end up mashing inputs when trying to be cool. Still enjoying DMC4 though despite this.
926394 No.14651791
Anyone who says button basher needs to be banned.
f526f4 No.14651879
>>14633799
>Action game with no penalty for items
>Both the section before and the fight itself hands you stun grenades by the truck load
>Literally kill him via stun grenade and when he recovers do it again and his HP is shit so he died before really doing anything.
MGR:R wasn't really a hard game but the way's you can quick kill bosses is funny
78d33f No.14651914
>>14631884
I feel like something in between. First you begin playing by bashing, then remember the muscle memory, then eventually become good in executing what you remember by muscle memory.
3584e5 No.14651932
>>14632978
I will never understand how many people are so fucking retarded they think you're just supposed to brute force and tank everything in MGR instead of trying to figure out what's wrong.
f526f4 No.14651933
>>14651914
One of those pics is not like the others, one of those pics just doesn't belong.
41f72a No.14651957
>>14651914
>dmc is a button masher
How much of a spastic troglodyte do you have to be to not think and perform creative enough moves for a good score.
5f1872 No.14651967
I don't know. What do you call it when you sort of just turn off your brain and go with instinct? When you hit that point where you aren't essentially thinking about strategy but aren't just mashing buttons either.
454ebf No.14652051
>>14631969
Everyone of you is wrong is was popularized the the super best friends.
f526f4 No.14652081
>>14652051
>term by lets players
648c04 No.14658477
>>14652081
Not an argument.
b13b61 No.14660636
>>14631969
>>14651967
jinba ittai
Genuinely curious, do advance players not mash buttons at all? Pulling off clean inputs all the time? I tend to mash buttons in advance or else I'm unable to link combos in time.
90c68a No.14660668
>>14631884
>that mindset mildly horrifies me
why people are so fucking autistic
not everyone likes vidya so much that wants to spend hours getting that 10 hit combo on a fighter, stop thinking that everyone should play your way
a40426 No.14660675
>>14660636
You gotta clean those inputs up, boy. If I'm on tilt, or in high pressure scramble situations, I am prone to mashing out cr.LK. Otherwise, all singular button presses with meaning.
ed55d6 No.14660678
>>14660675
If you don't double tap literally everything you're smalltime.
7c32fc No.14660766
I only press a button if I know what I'm trying to get out of it. I'll play a game with friends that none of us are good at, and they'll tend to mash a button, whereas I'll press it only once and try to press it exactly when I need it.
I think that the button mashing habit goes away once you get good at a game, but you can still suck ass even if you don't button mash. I don't think the habit is ever helpful unless the game itself is a technical mess.
c267dc No.14660839
I try to press a specific amount of button the last amount of times as I can, my record is beating a certain game with under 30 A presses.
I'd tell you guys more but I just lost my mechanical pen and I need it right now.
5e61c9 No.14661066
56262f No.14662613
>>14631884
I minmax my fun.
If for a example a fighting game has anything harder than quarter\half circle or single frame inputs or any other shit like that - I don't bother. There is no one to impress out there and I don't find learning or executing those things fun even if they give me an edge. On the other hand, if me rejecting mechanics is not completely detrimental to game's playability and fun then I don't stop when challenge comes my way, since tools themselves aren't the only solution to problems posed.
Systematic and technical perfection is deterministic - you will win the game, you will beat your opponent, you will reach your goal, but as long as you aren't reaching the top or pursuing things that are different to having fun with a game - frustration will be just not worth the price. Goes hand in hand with autism and tourneyfaggotry.
On the other hand absolute airhead casualness leads to complete inability to create a base (skill, vidya knowledge or taste), leads to procrastination and irresponsibility. Depression, escapist and flawed personality - are all characteristics either of which could be linked to people that are leaning to this playstyle.
You would need to let go of your pride, you would need to follow your whims sometimes, but then you'd also need to do the research (mechanic or just vidya research), you'd need to pick and follow principles that you find worthy, only then when you strike a balance between the two - you will find the most enjoyment in playing videogames.
This probably could be translated into anything else.
11f6d7 No.14666492
>>14662613
>If for a example a fighting game has anything harder than quarter\half circle or single frame inputs or any other shit like that - I don't bother. There is no one to impress out there and I don't find learning or executing those things fun even if they give me an edge. On the other hand, if me rejecting mechanics is not completely detrimental to game's playability and fun then I don't stop when challenge comes my way, since tools themselves aren't the only solution to problems posed.
Sounds like casualspeak to me.
95d53d No.14666714
>>14631884
Technical, but probably not in the way you're defining it. I hate fighting games and feel no desire to get good with them because memorizing combos and stuff just bores the hell at me. But at the same time I love me some min maxing autism. I only have fun with games until I feel like I've learned all the optimal strategies and it becomes monotonous because I've settled on what is the "best" thing to do and just turns into me repeating that thing. This is why I can rarely enjoy shallow games, I need depth do I have something to figure out how to exploit.
I've never crossed into actually practicing once I've worked these things out in order to compete territory though.
f93908 No.14666961
>>14666492
>you need to play No Items, Fox Only, Final Destination to have the most fun
Shiggly diggly doo I hope this you guys wouln't do
c267dc No.14668889
>>14666961
That's not what he said at all, though.
11f6d7 No.14675404
>>14666961
Sorry what?
>>14666714
Technical is the only answer that belongs on /v/. If you've ever played seriously in a game that's worth playing that's the only way to win.
56262f No.14679797
>>14668889
That's exactly what he is saying.
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