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3c8ad2 No.14624331

>Make a game which crosses over 2 70+ hour long games in the style of another 70+ hour game

>It's only 25ish hours long and is the weakest of the games using that style of play

How does this even happen?

449403 No.14624341

> is the weakest of the games using that style of play

it is the best post-2 persona though :^)


3c8ad2 No.14624343

File: 927cea64a0122b0⋯.jpg (36.1 KB, 662x705, 662:705, 1495322678913.jpg)


8ab3e5 No.14624444

>>14624331

The dungeon/FOE design was good, though. It was pretty on par with EO, maybe better in some aspects (no empty backtracking areas, more intertwined FOE puzzles). It pleased me as an EO fan who has never played P3/P4.


0e325e No.14624515

File: 446b84cbc9e16a2⋯.webm (10.7 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Persona Q Maze Of Life Mi….webm)

File: f845e4e5e1be3d3⋯.jpg (345.03 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, Wizardy 7.jpg)

File: a30209f8fa40b13⋯.jpg (766.58 KB, 3230x2285, 646:457, Wizardy7WordMap.jpg)

>>14624331

>Trying to make game type A even though trained in game type B.

>Game type A not very long.

Not much of a surprised anon, but if you want other reasons besides they need to git gud at that type. What do you call that style anyway? I also heard they wanted to more "easier" game since it was different from what the fans wanted. Also it had a much smaller budget. Not to mention its pretty "mouthy" in the dialog department compared to all the EO type of games.


449403 No.14624523

>>14624515

>What do you call that style anyway?

Isn't that called a dungeon crawler?


a30309 No.14624554

>>14624444

>The dungeon/FOE design was good, though

That's pretty much all there is to say about it. The horror dungeon with the babies was fantastic, mechanically. Music was fine too.


09ac81 No.14624618

File: f562d8384849b33⋯.jpg (58.56 KB, 512x512, 1:1, befuddled bugbear.jpg)

>dungeon crawler

>only 5 dungeons

>none of them are even optional


449403 No.14624621

>>14624618

m-maybe Persona Q2 will do it better!!!


7dc0c8 No.14624624

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>14624331

This along with the other crossover were disappointing, but the latter was utter dogshit with how the developers let Memehouse handle the "localization" and how the devs have no fucking idea what were they aiming for.


a30309 No.14624631

>>14624618

That's how EO works, except generally it's one giant dungeon with each strata of 5 floors being different themes, rather than split by a menu.


d4975d No.14624711

>>14624631

There is 6 dungeons in EO rather than 5 like in PQ. That being said I thought PQ was a decent game with balance issues.


a30309 No.14624724

>>14624711

>balance issues.

The fact that Naoto can solo the entire game with Mudo/Hama and Tentarafoo (every boss can be stunned, including the bonus bosses) is a bit silly.


d4975d No.14624738

>>14624724

Yeah I didn't use the OP hama/mudo spells, just the status effects like tentarafoo and binds since there are later FOEs with high evasion.


7828d4 No.14624740

>>14624621

This is something I could see someone saying if there was any information about Q2 besides some website. Atlus loves to tease games years before they have something to show.


09ac81 No.14624742

>>14624724

To say nothing of how broken the link skills were.


6750a5 No.14624746

Combat was shit

chibi shit design

donut steel characters were trash

would be better off with SMT gameplay or Strange Journey gameplay at the very fucking least with map design of EO. That's it. All they had to do. instead we get a piece of shit with a shitty casualized design for ability slots


f66403 No.14624786

Q was not meant to compete with persona 3 or 4. It was only made as a persona spinoff that was ok at best. It has a catchy intro song and decent tracks, some fun interactions and moments between the characters, and borrowed gameplay from another game series.

For me, I did not like how the characters were written as super flanderized versions of themselves. I also do not like first person dungeon crawlers of any kind. And I also do not like lolis who racemix with niggers.


a30309 No.14624790

>>14624786

>And I also do not like lolis who racemix with niggers.

He's greek, as he is Cronus.


c243c0 No.14624797

Persona spinoff tier list.

>God tier

Persona 4 Arena/Arena Ultimax

>Great tier

Persona Q

>powergap

>Shit tier

Dancing All Night.


09ac81 No.14624804

>>14624790

He's Chronos, not Cronus.


2cf98d No.14624805

>>14624797

You forgot Persona 3/4/5 at the end.


c243c0 No.14624982

>>14624805

What part of spinoff do you not understand? And before you get cheeky and say “Hurr, Persona is just an SMT spin-off :^).”, there’s a reason Jack Bros isn’t up there.

Most actual persona games are firmly in good to meh tier.


fad70f No.14624996

>>14624797

Dancing All Night is awesome :)


9afd88 No.14625036

>>14624982

>And before you get cheeky and say “Hurr, Persona is just an SMT spin-off :^).”

He was already cheeky and implying that Persona 1 and 2 are the only true Persona games. That's why he bashes 3/4/5 specifically rather than the entire Persona series.


abed37 No.14625086

File: c9562af03fe150b⋯.png (463.89 KB, 538x633, 538:633, absolute_hatred.png)

>>14624624

>They semi-admitted that they decided on idol faggotry because they someone couldn't link the core themes of SMT and FE together

>Even though to most people it's pretty apparent how you can link the theme of 'Mankind's place in a world ruled by gods and demons' and 'The trials and tribulations of war'


a30309 No.14625101

>>14625086

Not to mention there was already an SMT Fire Emblem clone in the form of Maijin Tensei for the SNES.


3c8ad2 No.14626284

File: 657a585ce4658e0⋯.jpg (72.23 KB, 1136x640, 71:40, c0a.jpg)

>>14625086

>MFW a series with 2 different turn based strategy somehow has people in charge who can't figure out how to mix them

It's super fucking simple let me show you.

>Starts off looking like a standard FE game

>opens with the kingdom being made aware of strange things falling from the sky

>They're the Gauntlets ala SMT4

>Lord of the game takes it for luck when fighting an enemy countries forces

>Chapter 3 and the sky goes red

>demons appearing everywhere left and right

>this chapter is now fighting demons ran by Tan Lim who killed who you were there to fight in an opening in game cut scene

>After fighting Sentana or Tam Lin or something to the extent the gauntlet triggers, some boy with a spear to offset the MC with a sword

>He explains how the gauntlet lets people harness the power of demons like himself and because of his proof of power wishes to join

>Demons are recruited via beating them with the right unit that would gain that demons respect and have it acted out with a cut scene after the fight

>Every unit in theory will have a demon personal to them by end game but it's up to the player to make sure their units are strong enough to recruit them

>Demons work in place of the pair up function

>Demons will always eat an attack if able in place of the unit

>Demons can come back after death because they're made of energy

>Demons act as a second attack which follows weapon triangle or magic (Magic triangle is now replaced with SMT Bufu, Zio, Zan and Agi to form a square of type match ups)

>Demons can also have effects like Casting tarukaja or Rakukaja on units a limited amount of times a map giving them more purpose then bonus HP and DPS

>Chapter 15

>Answers you given throughout the game changes what direction you'll take your kingdom in for if it will fight the angels or demons Or with a differenty acted out story for each

>Chapter 25

>You win

>NG+ Lucifer super boss


012595 No.14626350

>>14624724

That and the fact that she is the ONLY good magic user. MP is too scarce, the items to heal are rare and the damge they do us WAY lower than phys.


8e2f92 No.14626356

Remember when they tried adding stupid personality quirks to the P3 cast in order to make them more likeable to P4 kiddies


a30309 No.14626362

>>14626350

>MP is too scarce

I never had any problem with MP in the game. Between Rise's recharge move and the MP restoration, I never got close to running low, but I'm also an EO fanboy so I could beat PQ in my sleep.


3c8ad2 No.14626377

>>14626350

I rarely used more MP then what the sub persona's allowed for.

Even then Zen and Rei have a skill on them which restores it by the step which you wont get on a persona till like level 70


012595 No.14626401

>>14626362

>>14626377

I am thinking more in a long battle, like a boss or something. Magic Caster do good against mobs or in Early game but in battle they can cast the strongest spells maybe ONCE or TWICE and not to mention on how expensive the Charge Spells were.


3c8ad2 No.14626417

>>14626401

You should always have a physical skill on hand, even a cheap one to fish for crits with.

All my spellcasters had tempest slash by end game just to get a crit for a free spell cast off it.


012595 No.14626436

>>14626417

Huh, that is a good idea but still. Magic underperforms, that or the Crip/Multi hit Skills are broken


3c8ad2 No.14626445

>>14626436

PQ is fucked my dude.

Yukari and Yukiko are the best physical attackers in the game, let that sink in.


a30309 No.14626481

>>14626436

> Magic underperforms

That's standard in modern Persona though. Been that way since FES when they nerfed fusion spells.


76b50e No.14626607

File: f5645635d4483a8⋯.jpg (434.42 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 1428343035156.jpg)

>>14626284

I like it. Demons acting as skills and only being usable a limited number of times per map would help cut down on the Galeforce/Lethality/whatever skill abuse that plagues most of nu-FE ever since reclassing became a thing.


b4d8f0 No.14630384

File: d8f4871328e5605⋯.png (180.13 KB, 274x258, 137:129, Personacosplayers.PNG)

>>14624341

>it is the best post-2 persona though

Yeah, merely by default.

All it takes to be better than Hashino's games is to not use his disgracefully dumbed-down party formula.


d62d3a No.14630576

>>14624341

>Post-2 persona

I'm real tired of retards pretending persona 2 is good. Only good persona games are 1 and 5.


34dbb4 No.14630602

>>14630576

>5

>not a retard

2 has the best story/concept out of the lot.

although that's not saying much since i'm not a storyfag. the later games are pretty dull SoL shit.


d62d3a No.14630624

>>14630602

5 brought back everything good about 1 (guns, other magic types like nuclear, demon negotiations, etc.), is visually appealing, has some extremely fun dungeons to explore and the ending even plays more like an actual SMT game than the last few pathetic entries in the series.


56a8ee No.14630752

>>14630576

>5

>good persona

Persona stopped being good after 2

5 at best is step in the right direction, but theyve taken so many steps back that its nothing.


7e2466 No.14630793

>>14630576

>5

>good

A game with some of the most retarded dungeon designs, that has a whole month full of fucking cutscenes. Let me not even get started how much of a fucking rehash all the characters are, with how creatively bankrupt they are that they reuse character story arcs from every single game in the franchise just to shit out waifu pandering garbage.


fbe3b6 No.14630800

>>14624515

First person dungeon crawler. A genre i have alot of experience with. persona q needed a post game bonus dungeon


56a8ee No.14631018

>>14630800

that it did




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