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Has anything even vaguely similar to the Zeppelin Mod cropped up?

>>14605328

There was another one but I think it only had boats, not airships. The way it displaced water was kinda buggy but at least it did displace it, unlike zeppelin. Also when active the boat was treated like a big entity (like a monster or a projectile) so you couldn't, let's say, shoot your musket from the ship or at someone on the ship from the outside.

WarpDrive feels kinda primitive with the teleporting around instead of real time moving but it's actually pretty well made.

bump

Game's been not fun since Beta 1.7.3

>you play the big haloween update for the first time

>you will never enjoy the pleasing terrain generation throughout the different versions

>you will never boot up one of those old maps and find what cool things the mapper put in it

MIAP was the finest map, prove me wrong, pro tip, you can't.

>immersive engineering is one of the best tech mods out there

>recent versions are only on post-1.8

>no one has backported them

I fail to see how people who can make great mods can decide to exclusively support outright inferior versions of the game.

>>14615000

>MIAP was the finest map, prove me wrong, pro tip, you can't.

Crescent moon castle exists and the new modpack makes it fun.

Is there any mod that adds click-and-drag building like in Build and Shoot?

>>14618439

The literal only thing minecraft has going for it is mods

Therefore the inferior versions of the game are the ones with the least mods, like the transitory 1.8

>>14623948

Exactly. 1.7.10 has the most mods, and it runs mods the best, so it's the best version. 1.12 still doesn't compare.

>decide to try and play the game after not having touched it in 8 or 9 years

>try to look up cool mods to use but it's a giant clusterfuck because of how popular the game is and finding good mods amongst the vast ocean of shit ones is almost impossible

>every time I look something up all I can find are literally millions of jewtube videos made by some of the most autistic man children you'll ever see

>all the mod hosting websites are filled with obnoxious ads and every fucking link you click is a redirect to those virus filled adfly websites

I guess this is what I get for trying to play a childrens lego game.

>>14624672

where are the mods, then

>>14624672

>doesn't have a shit modding API

>lets people make mods not even possible in minecraft

I have yet to see that. Minetest has these things going for it:

>can modify the engine and the API if needed

>no need for third party launches to download and install modpacks

>mods are only needed server-side

>native support of blender models

There's so little provided by the engine to the API that the most you can do is modify existing game modes and world generation, you can add items and blocks with inventories but that about sums it up.

Want to make a mod for magic so you can do rituals under a full moon? Tough shit, you're stuck modifying the engine for that because there's not even a call to return whether or not the sky is visible. Want to add some crazy mobs? Well the API has no native support for that, you have to use someone's third party mob API.

That's why I went back to modding minecraft, even if I bite the bullet and use the bloated hunk of shit Forge, there is still more possible through it's various hooks and methods than that of minetest's API.

>>14624480

Were you using curseforge? None of downloads on that direct you to adfly. It's fucking Curse, but it's better than those adfly links that are popular on the forums. However, not every mod is on curseforge, and a lot of the ones that aren't use adfly links.

>>14624793

>Minecraft shill

Holy fuck these are still a thing?

>>14625930

Microsoft spent billions on buying the game you'd better believe they're still shilling it.

>>14624307

You're right, but the newest version will always have the most updated and new mods, and that gap only grows as the weeks go by

I like 1.7.10, but I've played it a lot, just like how I liked 1.2.5, but time moved on

>>14625930

Criticizing a copy doesn't mean you're praising the original.

>>14626071

Except every update continuously splits the modding base as more and more stop bothering to update for every version. The mods get newer, but the number of them get smaller, and many of them ruin themselves with new updates, anyway. Minecraft, itself, hasn't updated in any great way in many years, and Lex has only made Forge worse as the years have gone by. The modders who exclusively update for the newest version of Minecraft are actively harming the community by encouraging the fracturing of the mod library and the use of APIs that run significantly worse. It's another turd on top of the pile of shit that is Minecraft modding.

>>14626132

Context, you faggot. In this case, "original" refers to what the copy is a copy of, not that it's entirely original.

>>14626071

Well said. After the engine update a lot of modders jumped ship and left many good mods abandoned in the past. Nobody wants to update his work every few months for an update that adds 1 new block type and changes maybe 2 textures.

>>14626152

And one day the modding community will dry up for good and we can finally be done with this shit

Who knows, maybe mojang will give up before the modders do and we end up with a finalized minecraft version and we go through a mod renaissance, but that's a longshot

>>14626479

There's no need for a sequel, that'll just mean even more years of updates

The best option is to just reconfigure the shit that's already there to open up more of the game to modders and let the autists figure it out

Also notch wouldn't be able to just buy the rights back, he made his fortune by selling it in the first place

>>14626770

True. A real shame. Just with a few touches the game could be endless and fun.

>>14615000

This is true.

I miss gargamel.

>>14625930

you gotta stick to older versions for that, luckily, mojang are a bunch of tards and made massive changes so quickly that some modders just dug in their heels and kept modding 1.7.10

>>14626479

>>14626770

What we need is a rewriting and redesign. The base concept it sound, but it needs to be expanded on in a meaningful way, instead of the "make it up as I go, according to my fleeting whim" approach Notch took, and then the "add half-assed features just to say we're still updating the game" approach the rest of Mojang took. Also, an official modding API that's not made by an ego-centric autist.

>>14626856

I think my concept could still work though.

If Dragon Quest Builders can do it why not a buncha nerds? It's basically Minecraft meets SotDRP plus worldgen adapted to player creation and devtools.

A WRPG maker engine, but a game in its full right.

>>14626859

>an official modding API

I'm trying to make one for 1.2.5 since most shit added later was only decorative blocks, food and worldgen.

I've not yet reached the first milestone on this, and there is still a lot to do.

First milestone would be reducing registered block and item IDs, by utilizing metadata for blocks and items of similar type. Second milestone would be a working config parser, third milestone having all blocks and items added via configs, then move onto complicate things.

>>14626859

>The base concept it sound, but it needs to be expanded on in a meaningful way

Yes.

I think worldgen is seriously underused. Same for mobs. There's this mod called CustomNPCS which allows you to add custom monsters and NPCS, but also quests and items. All customised.

If there was a way to save dungeons, towns and lands using MCEDIT and keep all those structures, NPCS and quests so that Worldgen uses it (World gets generated through areas as you go) then you'd have a potentially limitless game. And that without even fixing anything yet.

>>14627152

Relying entirely on user made static structures isn't very good, especially when that stuff would clog up worldgen

Better to improve vanilla villagers and then work on giving those villages/buildings better procedural pieces to work with

>>14627187

That's only the first part of the plan. If you make it so you can add player generated mobs/structures/items AND then you add devtools to make skills it can be basically anything.

Skills you can attach to mobs or items.

With this alone you can create from Morrowind to Zelda, from Doom to Dark Messiah or Counter Strike.

And I think Minecraft needs optimization above anything else so that it can be effectively clogged. If you improve the gameplay and make it so content can be added by anyone you can use your own tools as well, thus creating a simple but solid game which can be enhanced into anything you want. The best part is that it's not unrealistic at all, as mods already do that to some extent.

I don't think it would clog worldgen any more than adding seeds does, or playing user created maps.

Though really, what I expected from Minecraft was a less complex Dwarf Fortress.

>>14625881

I tried that but their website wasn't all that functional and the mods had virtually no description on them at all besides a title. So there was no real way to know what the mod actually did. And I'm not downloading their shitty spyware either.

Ultimately I'll probably just have to watch an endless number of mod showcase videos on jewtube if I want to really build the kind of experience I'm interested in. I suppose the process is the same for shit like the elder scrolls, which is why I kind of lost interest since I spent an absolutely stupid amount of hours trying to mod the perfect skyrim only to end up getting pissed off at how terrible optimized the game is. I legitimately think I spent more time trying to fix shit and get mods up and running than I spent playing the game.

>>14626770

We need a sequel so they leave the original game on a stable build SO MODDERS CAN WORK IN PEACE, NOT HAVING TO UPDATE BECAUSE "FUCK YOU".

>>14626859

Impossible, it's the same case as skyrim:

Game is fucked as it's core, too much work to change that, it's best to make a new game from scratch.

>>14628873

>it's best to make a new game from scratch.

That's what I meant, hence "rewriting and redesign". The conversation was about the making of a sequel, you know, a new game, but we less need a sequel and more just need a do-over of the original.

>Look up mod documentation

>So to get started you'll need some diamonds and redstone…

>Close mod, check next one

>So at the very least you need some of the stone from the ender dimension…

>Close mod, check next one

>Alright, so to get your proper tools you need some glowstone…

>Close mod, check next one

>And first you need some obsidian

Why the fuck is every single fucking god damn mod backloaded all to fuck?

>>14629369

Ah, nevermind then, i missunderstood it.

Such a shame, really, this game would benefit greatly with just a simple villager update (competent attribution of houses with families, ability to create a small army for defense, making farms useful: no sufficient food would mean no more villagers or they start to starve).

I would make a mod like that, but fuck the mod tools.

>>14629763

It's an attempt at "balance," and a lot of mods are made with the assumption that you're using mods that make those easier to get, or the mods, themselves, make those easier to get. Though, it's not like redstone, diamonds, or obsidian are all that difficult to acquire, and glowstone is only a little more dangerous to get. Shitty rng can screw you with diamonds, but that's about it. It's much worse when mods, like MineFantasyII, make early game more of an arbitrary slog.

>>14629763

Try Better than wolves, the main problem with the mod was the drama surrounding it 3 years ago.

>>14630958

Isn't BtW a ridiculously difficult overhaul that asks you to do incredibly tedious shit just to survive?

>>14631012

It turns Minecraft into an actual game if that's what you mean.

>>14631020

Oh, I didn't realize it was you, flowerchild. I thought you were off trying to fuck up KSP, now.

>>14631020

I'll bet you like the "Everything must be as painful as possible" mod that is Terrafirmacraft.

>>14631038

>>14631033

Nope, but I do enjoy Prophesy of Pendor and Long War 1 and 2.

Terrafirmacraft takes it way too far, BTW is a nice middle ground between casual experience for children and a game.

>>14605428

>>14611265

>>14605328

>Zeppelin mod

I've never found any that come close, considering that somehow, with the zep mod you could place redstone on it which would actually work in flight. I created a form of tnt cannon that could actually fire on the move without messing up, and the power was quite high considering the low charge since there technically weren't "walls" in the way. Not very big cannons either, I had a ship with 4 cannons, 2 per side and 1 block row in between to walk and it was ~6 or 7 blocks wide total.

That was some good autism then though I suppose I could always switch back to that version and play it

>>14631047

>TFC takes it way too far

>BTW is a nice middle ground

What? BTW is worse than TFC, in that regard. TFC doesn't make it impossible to set your spawn and then make you spawn at random coordinates when you die. TFC makes hunger more manageable, while BTW makes it less. BTW makes punching blocks take even slower than vanilla, makes it drop less than the normal amount of resources, then requires you to do it to progress beyond absolutely nothing.TFC gives you an easy way to make stone tools, right from the start, which last a decent amount. BTW restricts stone tools, with the pickaxe lasting a whopping six blocks before breaking entirely. BTW makes darkness something that actively hampers and even kills you, beyond just making it hard to see. TFC just tries to add complexity and depth by using realism as a base. BTW tried to make every step tedious and difficult for the sake of being tedious and difficult.

DAILY REMINDER

Everything beyond 1.7.10 is non-canon, made by a group of "fans" who bought their way to the top.

Minecraft has never had a female protagonist, a usable left hand, dual-wielding nor a shitty inefficient "glider"

Granite, Prismarine and other exotic stone types were cut from a cancelled update and can be modded back in

The game has been unfinished since the Adventure Update, but 1.7.10 is the closest they will ever get to "finished"

Do not support mods or modders who insist on making their creations available only to the goodest of goyim

>>14625930

>>14626022

No-one's shilling anything. In the grand scheme of things, Infiniminer was a Benz Motorwagon, the first of its kind but useless for just about any purpose and often forgotten, Minecraft is a Model-T Ford, built in high numbers and with global support behind it, and Minetest is a Tucker Torpedo. Made off a successful formula that improves in every discernable factor but no matter how hard you try it'll never catch on until someone with significant financial backing takes your best ideas, sells them as his own and leaves you for dead.

Also Terraria is a Harley-Davidson, shouldn't have to explain why

Finally, no-one played Infiniminer until 2010 when it got rediscovered by contrarians that eat Hydrox, read Zamyatin and watch NWA Wrestling. Don't even try to lie about it, the game didn't get a following until it got heralded as an original idea, because "fully interactive voxel world" is an extremely specific concept for a video game. Doesn't matter that their gameplay is entirely different.

Anyway, would you guys be interested if I dug into one of my past HDDs and pulled out something I made in my more autistic days? A list of mods for 1.7.10 that I feel are good quality, fit in with vanilla gameplay well and add a layer of depth or immersion to an aspect of gameplay that is otherwise lacking.

>>14631150

TBH though, the one block BUD switches make self-propelled engines very small. I'd be quite happy for pre-hunger minecraft so long as I could get comparators and the like back as a mod.

>>14631129

Sounds like you didn't even make it past early game, I can tell since you didn't mention how iron ore only gives nuggets instead of ingots. In mid to late game, everything is automated and you can even recycle tools to get back your iron.

The problem is that you're too used to the casual mindset you used when playing regular minecraft, much like how someone playing pendor for the first time will be shocked by how Huscarls are only mid tier troops now.

The reason why stone pickaxes are like that is because you aren't supposed to make mineshafts like in regular minecraft, you're supposed to go explore caves like in Terraria.

>>14631150

Is this copypasta or are you just supremely autistic

>>14631313

I plan to re-use the redtext + top 5 lines whenever we have this thread, otherwise this is the first time you're reading this.

Anyway

>are you just supremely autistic

<my more autistic days

>>14631201

That's because early game is shit, dude. Also, do you really think I was going to mention every single little aspect of BTW that's harder than vanilla and TFC? I only listed a significant few, because that's all I needed to make my point. I, and most sane people, am not spending hours of tedious unfun for the promise of eventual fun, which can then be entirely unmade with a single fatal mistake. I'll admit BTW looks like it gets pretty nice after the slog of early survival, but the slog isn't very worth it when I can find similar mechanics of BTW mid-to-late game in other mods. BTW is one of those idiotic "it's hardcore, so that means it's good" mods that occasionally pop up. Flowerchild's ego and stupidity don't help entice me to play the mod, either.

On another note, TFC is practically the opposite of BTW, where the early game is great fun that, at worst, sometimes wastes your time, but it becomes a tedious slog once you reach iron and have to use a ridiculous amount of resources and time to do anything significant with steel and beyond.

>>14631606

Thing is, a lot of people enjoy the hobo phase of games myself included. It's the reason why Stalker is well liked by some people.

Just because you want a more casual experience, doesn't mean something more hardcore can't be enjoyed by others.

>>14631648

ic2+hardcore gregtech are the only mods anybody ever needs

>>14631774

>ic2

>playing soft creative mode

>>14631780

That's why you add gregtech dorknado.

>>14631791

>creative mode is okay if I make the grind longer

>but BTW is too hardcore because the first few hours were extended

>>14615000

1.8 destroyed everything

>>14631814

I'm not the other guy who was talking about BTW, but the last time I tried BTW was before forge was a thing, before flowermanchild added gimp suits and made water blocks unmovable.

>>14631839

The water block being made unmovable was a smart move though, now water is a valuable resource.

There was also a new machine made that could move water up one tile. You create water towers by stacking loads of these machines together and use aquaducts to get water where you want it. It means building functional things is now an infinifactory style puzzle.

>>14631150

>Minecraft has never had a female protagonist,

Minecraft doesn't have any protagonist.

>>14631871

Well isn't that neat, but does it have conveyor belts?

>>14631968

It has pulleys, apparently.

>>14631648

Thing is, you suggested BTW to a guy complaining that too many mods require too much to even get started with them, when BTW asks an awful lot of the player to just get started. Then, when I asked if it was still the BTW I remembered it being, you answered with a passive-aggressive remark that implied there was something wrong with criticizing it, instead of just simply answering the question. You immediately went into defense mode at the mere implication there might be something wrong with the mod.

>>14624672

Minecraft was ALWAYS a children's game; don't kid yourself.

>>14632765

There are several mods for those things. Structures were a bit fucky because structures aren't handled that well to start with but there is a mod for it. What you want I think would require manually editing your world, character by character, quest by quest.

>>14632765

There's a mod, I forget the name, that allows you to save structures you build as templates, then allows you to generate those structures in your world. Nothing really for NPC and Quest generation, aside from Custom NPC.

I always wanted to play as a one block tall dwarf and go full dorf fort on a multiplayer server with the other dwarves, building such that taller races such as filthy elves literally cannot enter your halls without a pickaxe. It would go down a bit like Tucker's Kobolds, I imagine.

>>14633180

>Digital repeaters

>Wireless transmissions

>longer pistons

>More redstone anything since it's the only good thing about vanilla.

>guns

>Spears with proper long range attack capability

>Really light claim ability for vanilla that reduces other players to adventure mode capabilities on your turf, but not the full YOU CANNOT PRESS BUTTONS ON X'S CLAIMED LAND of mods and plugins.

For the last one, I think it would be neat to be able to make dungeons in a regular world and have players attempt to beat it. The stakes are their gear and whatever they carry in to try to beat it, so you design your traps with hopper collection in mind. If you make a shitdungeon then nobody will play it, so you make it good.

>>14633180

nobody mentions this

>more immersive sounds

>ambient sounds

>reverb

>>14605242

>Matter Overdrive

>WarpDrive

>Mystcraft

>ICBM

>Sync

These… are mods that exist for Minecraft? Just how far has Minecraft modding gone?

>>14633322

>keys and locks

>lockpicking minigame

>>14633378

ICBM and general electricity was great in general before it got assimilated into voltz and died. Pretty sure it had actual conveyor belts instead of retarded pipes like IC2/BC

>>14633378

Minecraft mods are a deep well of autism

If you can think of a thing or a field or a system, there's probably a mod that attempts to make a ramshackle minecraft simulation of it

A while back fucking Verizon made a mod that let you make in-game video calls to people outside of the game

>>14633180

First, I would remove hunger and add some kind of other system to use food for. Maybe I'd use BotW's system as a base, but reduce the ridiculous potency you can give meals in that game. Then I'd change the terrain generation to be more fantastical. I would add more locations that spawn in the world, such as ancient ruins, graveyards, evil towers, etc. The caves would get a massive overhaul, with different environments and the possibility of massive caverns being generated. There wouldn't be a general list of enemies that spawn at time. Instead, every enemy would have specific environments and times that it would spawn in. Zombies in graveyards, spiders in dense forests, etc. There would be a much greater variety of enemies. Villagers wouldn't look or sound disgusting, and they would do more than just randomly roam around and trade random things with you. Farming and ranching would be more involved, requiring some actual care for your crops and animals. Speaking of animals, wild livestock would naturally reproduce, and there would be animals, like deer, that you could elect to hunt. Crafting would be more complex, with different stations needed to craft different kinds of items. Metal tools and armor would need an anvil and forge, cloth would need a loom, food would need a stove, you see where this is going. There would be more housing decorations, like functional furniture. Combat would be closer to Dark Messiah. Character models would be more detailed and feature better customization. Equipment would consist of more than four pieces. There would be a magic system that integrated with the building mechanics. The nether would contain valuable materials for crafting better tools and items. The sky would contain floating islands of various sizes. There's a lot more, but this wall is getting pretty big, already.

>>14633499

Oh and

VILLAGE GENERATION WOULDN'T DO SHIT LIKE STICK THEM ON IMPOSSIBLY STEEP MOUNTAIN SLOPES OR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN WITH NO PATHWAYS BETWEEN BUILDINGS. WHY DOES MINECRAFT STILL DO THIS? WHY?

>>14633595

>>14633665

Forgot to mention the Redstone Soldiers would be fully programmable, so if had enough autism, you could program them to do other functions, like walk around in a set pattern to fill out maps. They could also be given enchantments and use anything the player could use, including riding mobs like horses.

And why the hell is Mojang so slow at updating the game? How small is their team and how difficult is it to program these sorts of thing? I swear modders make things at a faster rate and with less bugs. I don't care what it is at this point, I just want more content.

>>14633765

Minecraft has a Windows 10 version written in C++. It doesn't have mods, and it has a cash shop for skins. Microsoft planned on merging it with the mobile version and xbox version at some point, but I don't know if they've done it, yet.

>>14633781

>writing minecraft in every programming language

No wonder updates take so fucking long.

>>14633787

It's not by Mojang. A separate development team works on the Win10 version, and, if I remember correctly, they don't ensure immediate feature parity with the Java version.

>>14632041

>too much to even get started with them

>1 hour of play is too much to get started

It sounded to me like the guy wanted a mod that actually added stuff to the early game. Which BTW and Terrafirmacraft both definitely do.

I find it funny how you accuse me of being defensive about things you are just wrong about.

>>14631968

Use water channels, combine with hoppers with the right filters to sort.

>>14615000

There was this long series of story maps from way back when that was really cool…

what do you guys think of the aquatic update that coming?

>>14635503

Partly because Java Minecraft is an unoptimized, spaghetti-coded mess. Partly, it's so they can have a unified version on PC, Xbox, and phones that can all play together. Finally, it's so they can have a version that's totally under their control. The Win10 version is by Microsoft employees, made for Microsoft systems, and removes modding capabilities while adding paid community-made content, which are just maps, texture packs, and player skins.

>>14635617

it adds very little minute things, atleast the spear is cool, but mods are just leaps ahead of what mojang is releasing just look at the mod conquest

>>14635617

The new beacon-thing that provides an area-effect water breathing and night vision is fucking legit. It'll make building underwater things much easier since you won't have to use fifty fucking potions. That's the kind of thing they should have realized needed to be made as soon as they implemented other beacon effects.

I only wish I'd known this was coming before I went making a subnautica base in Minecraft complete with a Cyclops.

I'd ask if people wanted to start a group mod project but I think we all know how that would turn out.

>conflicts of interest

>nobody agreeing on how things should change

>additions that only one person wants

>more ideaguys than contributors

>infighting than leads to the project splitting up and everyone just does their own thing anyway

>>14642133

I don't think anyone's passionate enough about this for it to even get that far

>>14642779

>>14642579

I remember I once made a low-effort attempt at an aethermod type thing where it was a whole new dimension but the ideafagging got out of hand and i wanted floating shantytowns, roaming kraken boss, big daddy style diving suits, some kind of boat (like the normal boat but bigger).

I ended making a wood block which was palm tree textured, made a block of salt, and I made raw shrimp which was cookable into cooked shrimp. Both were eatable and the raw one would give you food poisoning + nausea. Then I got bored and played other games.

>>14642801

That's one of the problems, adding a block, an item and a recipe are easy entry-level stuff but to do anything more advanced is barely documented if at all and way beyond the scope of anyone who hasn't actually taken a course on java in college.

Speaking from experience.

>>14642859

>mark doesn't recognize the difference between the minecraft general and a thread about exploring abandoned minecraft servers

I don't expect anything less, just look at what he did to the 1 year tumblrtale anniversary thread where Toby was going to do a Q&A, treating it like a general, and what he did to the arena threads when tumblrwatch had a shitter shilling it.

I'm starting to think we should rename this board /vg/ because that's all that's allowed.

sage for double post

>>14642859

Fucking why?

>>14642926

That board already exists and ironically now allows non-generals.

>>14642859

What the fuck Mark, I know its a meme to say you're a shitter but come the fuck on.

>>14642133

You forgot the traps.

>>14633781

It's also just a port of the mobile version I think.

>>14642859

MARK YOU KIKE

On the side note, to say something I was going to post:

>raiding a dead server

I just want /r9k/craft 2.0

>>14642999

>Working on a Wario Land 4-esque/GBA texture pack for Minecraft. How the fuck do I texture chest properly?

Check the wiki I think there are specific special requirements because they can open.

>>14643013

I know it comes in separate parts with sides, tops, and lock part that all need to be distinct textures in themselves. What I'm having trouble with is getting the texture to scale properly, it always seems to cut off the right side and figuring out how the lock texture works.

>>14642813

At this point, having taken java courses as part of a CS minor I could probably pick a version and develop, if I wanted to.

>>14642951

It's a decent board it's just really slow.

>>14642859

It was an accident, sorry about that. Make another one

>>14643243

we both know it wasn't

>>14643243

"""""""""""""""""""""""""accident"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>>14643243

>(((Accident)))

>>14643243

Maybe tomorrow. That killed the mood for me.

>>14643323

>>14643306

>>14643305

>>14643296

>>14643296

im gonna start going on old servers if somebody wants to join

play.scarletmc.com:25595

>>14643147

I could put a server up quickly but

>one half wants mods, other half wants vanilla

>everyone wants a different version

>>14643336

just kidding server doesnt work

going on this one

209.222.103.202:28590

>>14643344

just do either a vanilla mod, or a server with mods like conquest

i don't even have minecraft, would need to pirate it again

>>14643445

Maybe I can cook up some kind of challenge thing, I'll see what mods I've got laying around.

>>14631150

beta 1.7 or just 1.7?

If you meant beta then i'd agree, but anything after "Release" was compelete shit.

>>14644225

I thought of something that would be a neat combination, an industrialcraft skyblock world with mini planets that have their own gravity, but in testing this the planets don't generate if the world type is anything but default or probably amplified.

So with a skyblock world there wouldn't be any planets, and the planets only generate with vanilla ores. I looked for a deobfuscated version of this mod but there isn't one as far as I can tell. I don't suppose anyone knows how to deobfuscate a mod? I could add what ores would be generated if only I had the source.

>>14646195

Really I just want to have a cohesive experience with mods, so much shit just clashes or out-does or repeats what other mods do, that you can never have a decent modpack as a result. You end up stuck for hours of days going through config hell trying to make everything mesh as well as you can and still end up with jarring conflicts or overlap between them.

What do you think about valkyrian warfare?

>>14646879

Actually I might be able to decompile and deobfuscate this planet mod. Found a tool that will decompile and jdgui should deobfuscate it. Hopefully the code isn't in fucking japanese the mod is from the jp minecraft forum.

>>14648785

What mod is it?

Will you post it in a permanent place when you finish?

>>14648937

It's called starminer, it adds tiny planets (or it calls them stars) to the overworld, so you can see them all over and if you get close enough to one you actually get pulled up by it's gravity and can walk around the whole thing, dig into it and it has ores and a gravity well inside that you can harvest and use it to make gravity manipulating items and eventually you can build your own mini planet using a certain item

it's pretty legit, your model and view flips as you walk around the planets and same goes for mobs, you can even grow crops and trees on any side of them

also adds a space dimension with no gravity except that of more mini planets (some with stained glass rings) and you have to use a solar wind fan to move around you can make this carpet thing that lets you walk on walls and ceilings too it's really cool

I'll see what I can do about hosting it somewhere but I don't know if it will be permanent on account of retarded licenses

>>14649035

You could upload it to minecraft forum or any other semi official forum like planet minecraft or curse as a fan continuation. I know the mod.

I think it lets the player set the radious of the gravitational sphere.

It could be fun having a map generation that made a 512 tall void world filled with planets.

Would it be easy to make it generate planets with modded ores?

Be sure to post progress here if you decide to go on.

>>14649093

I don't know if it's possible, but it would be nice if it grabs the biome generation so there could be planets with different biomes. Or even modded biomes, though i don't know how possible that is.

Also, do you know of any mods that add fitting mobs, like flying monsters?

>>14649093

That's just it though, the dev is still active just slow. If I can put it up some place anonymously then sure, fuck it.

That's the idea I had, just starting a skyblock server with these planets serving as the only means of obtaining ore early on. I should just be able to use oredictionary to add mod ores to these planets. Planets kind of have biomes, but it really just determines what they're made of.

>>14649111

Not sure about flying monsters.

>>14649251

Create a dummy account and make a post about it on some forum.

any texture packs and mods worth recommending?

>>14649461

Definitely not better than wolves. From what I gather of the forums, flowerchild bans or ridicules (locking threads too) anyone that criticizes his circle jerk, and even closed down account creation. He also cherry picks realism ADD SOME TREE CAMBIUM AS SURVIVAL FOOD YOU TWAT IT IS A VERY REAL THING MEAT IS NOT THE ONLY EDIBLE ITEM CUNT REEEEEEEEEEEE

So really, I have the same question as you since I liked the idea of his mod with the mechanical power and all that but the early game is absolutely retarded so you don't get to see any of that- So I guess I need new mods. I really liked how industrial craft had big automatic mining drills so I might try something with that, or general electricity if I can find standalone files for it. I guess those count as suggestions It is late, please ignore my sloppy formatting

>>14649705

Better With Mods is basically BTW, but with all the "hardcore" aspects entirely optional and without flowerchild at the helm.

>>14649705

>>14649715

Also, as far as tech mods are concerned, I highly recommend Immersive Engineering. Not only is it neat, feature-wise, but it's a very aesthetically pleasing mod. Unfortunately, the latest versions are all exclusively for the most recent versions of Minecraft, and all the cool addons other people have made for it are also stuck on those versions. There's also a compatibility mod for it and Better With Mods, so you can easily use them together, if you wish.

>>14649884

Why is that skeleton shitting out a giant bone poop

>very easy to build a zelda-dark soul-ish game

I tried to make a pack that loosely followed d&d lore, and despite managing to pull off the aesthetic pretty well, the pack caused the game to devour itself, after so much time on a world I started getting diminishing returns for FPS, and there was nothing that could pinpoint why it was happening. It got to the point that after 10 minutes you'd start dropping frames like crazy and that's without even leaving the overworld, after 15 minutes you may as well have been playing a powerpoint presentation, literally 5 fps and then 1 frame every few seconds, until you couldn't even exit out because it took so long for the screen to update.

I tried everything to remedy it, removing tile entities, killing all mobs, all item entities, force-unloading chunks, but nothing worked as a long term solution.

>>14650047

The mods didn't seem to matter, no matter if I even started a new world the same thing happened. It was just unstable as fuck and I blame it entirely on forge.

>>14649999

That's minecraft for you. That will always happen eventually no matter if you use 100 mods or 1 mod.

>>14650599

The major problem I have with Industrial mods is that they're pointless in Minecraft.

Mainly because of how resources work.

In Factorio, you get a patch of copper. There's about 500.000 units of copper there.

It makes perfect sense to automate the mining and processing.

But on minecraft, a chunk will net you some 30 Iron, 8 Gold, one or two diamonds and 10 to 15 redstone/lapis.

Not to mention the ammount of engineering mods that automate the processing… but not the mining. What's the point if you're gonna bottleneck yourself at the resource gathering part?

And then the next: in factorio you assemble shit to assemble more shit than can be assembled in shit that will then be, you guessed it, aseembled into bigger shit.

Minecraft engineering mods let you automate the production of workbenches for… well that's it.

Extra points to large, complex and in-depth electrical mods that then lack actual machines that consume electricity. What's the point of building a Nuclear reactor if all I can do with that much power is light up a million lamps?

The only mod I ever liked was Thaumcraft.

You don't even need anything else, that mod was perfect in everyway.

It gives you tools for buildan autism.

It gives you reasons to explore the world.

It gives you tools to explore the world.

It puts interesting stuff on the world for you to find while exploring.

It gives you automation/autism machinery.

It pulls off lore + aesthetics really well.

No other mod came close to that. It turned Minecraft into an actual game with fleshed out progression and insteresting this to make.

It also featured a lot of multiplayer potential.

Not just the anti-magic and locks stuff, but the "Taint" part.

A player that delved too much into forbidden secrets would become tainted, like a Lich.

One of the traits is that you'd hurt people simply by staring at them, but you'd suffer damage from the sun aswell.

This could easily lead to someone being cast out of a group because he researched forbidden magic. Or a group of Thaumaturges keeping one of the them in the underground lab, barely contacting with him but making use of his services.

The only better mod was Mystcraft because of the variety and cool shit you could make, and that was it.

>>14649715

>>14649738

>>14650599

I'll have to look at them. Universal Electricity as I remember combined ICBM, conveyor belts, and actual fission reactors- like the reaction only heated water to make steam and you then needed turbines, very complete. It also lets other mods use it's system of electricity for power.

http://minecraftsix.com/universal-electricity-mod/

Also found this: https://electrical-age.net/ (lets you put alarms and stuff even on the inside of blocks)

Immersive engineering looks pretty good, wanted to pretty much try factoriocraft so this could be good.

>>14624672

>>all the mod hosting websites are filled with obnoxious ads and every fucking link you click is a redirect to those virus filled adfly websites

Just get them off of CurseForge. Apart from having to look at Yet Another Fucking JS-Heavy Web2.0 Site With A Bootstrap Meme Theme™ it has direct links to downloads in the sidebar. You can even automate checking for updates if you're autistic enough (and let's be honest, you're playing modded cubegame)

>>14651146

>But on minecraft, a chunk will net you some 30 Iron, 8 Gold, one or two diamonds and 10 to 15 redstone/lapis.

>Not to mention the ammount of engineering mods that automate the processing… but not the mining. What's the point if you're gonna bottleneck yourself at the resource gathering part?

Okay I completely agree with that complaint, but Immersive Engineering solves that. Mostly by cheating and pulling resources out of its ass, but still. You build a bucket excavator, give it a fuckton of power for 3 (real) days, and in return it gives you storage problems with all the ore it spits out. It doesn't dig up real blocks like a buildcraft quarry does (this is fiat currency sorry), but that helps to not lag things to shit or ruin the landscape.

I'd say this is one of the very few mods that feel like a natural extension of the game, Thaumcraft being another one, and also RedPower (rip).

But, given the rest of what you said about wanting reasons to build shit, you should try Botania. It's Thaumcraft and extremely autistic radio engineering disguised as gardening. Very fucking hard.

>>14651894

>It doesn't dig up real blocks

That's EXACTLY what I wanted, holy shit.

Or rather, I wanted a mod that gives you ore when you mine an iron ore block but doesn't remove the block (unless you remove it manually some other way, TNT for instance) making ore infinite, but that works too.

Thankashen, time to try something new.

The mod looks okay visually too.

>>14651909

I know, right? The first time I played it my reaction was "this is nothing like IC2 thank fucking god"

Just to spare you the bullshit I went through: the mod makes up a random ore distribution per chunk and keeps track of excavation progress for each one, so not actually infinite, but you can just pick up the machine and move it 16 blocks. Also it seems to care about ground density so don't put it over a ravine, I learned that the hard way.

>>14626879

you're a fuckin retard, champ

>>14651940

>>14651931

I already posted a link for it, but I'm curious what anons think of electrical age; I like how you allegedly can place circuitry inside of blocks to reduce clutter. It mostly seems to deal with lights, signalling, alarms, (teleports), and stuff like that, though the wiki says you can export power to EU and RF. I'm debating between trying this or IE- or trying something entirely different like Thaumcraft.

>>14652445

Welp it's gonna be a while before I get all the unnamed fields and functions fixed. Every field and function that is unnamed seems to be for a forge hook, so I have to painstakingly figure out what each forge reference is by trial and error.

Also I thought about uploading this to gitgud.io under a different mod name.

>>14654666

>Furniture

For what purpose? You can't use shelves or chairs or TVs or anything else in the games so they would have no practical purpose.

Decorative? Using blocks to approximate things inexactly is LITERALLY THE ENTIRE CREATIVE GAME. You want "blocks" that looks like a chair? Next thing you'll be asking for ROUND BLOCKS! Fucking ridiculous. Go play the Sims.

>>14655386

>You can't use shelves or chairs or TVs or anything else in the games

>Muh round blocks meme

keel yorslef

>>14656902

>petrify your enemies

there actually was a mod that added petrification arrows that did exactly that, but you'd never know it by the name of the mod

pistronics added it, despite the focus of the mod being better piston mechanics

>>14655386

>creative

Guess what? People want Minecraft to be a game, not a building block simulator.

>You can't use shelves or chairs

Mods show us that you very well can, though. Bibliocraft is a really popular mod that's largely about adding functional shelves, chairs, and other pieces of furniture.

>>14656902

I'm pretty sure vanilla has armor stands

>>14655386

>don't add things that make it more like a game

>all you need to do is play pretend instead

>>14656642

There's a bed because it has a FUNCTION, you retard.

>>14657195

Allow chairs to set your spawn during the day, problem solved.

>>14657195

Sitting in chairs is a function.

>>14657195

>FUNCTION,

Make it so NPCS tend to sit on chairs around them. If they're in their house they are LIKELY to be sitting in their chair, but it doesn't always happen. That way NPCS become a bit more alive.

>>14655386

Situations that would profit from a chair:

>Villagers can sit on them, making them feel more human, helps with immersion

>Helps with map making, so npcs can sit and stay on a place instead of being awkwardly standing up

>Promotes making comfy spots with good views

>Huge on multiplayer, full immersive (like having people sit on hubs), fantastic for roleplay fags

>>14657195

Hell if you want more function, just make the furniture craftable from a different type of crafting bench, add a few more things (maybe larger types of doors) ovens to improve food (better than cooked from a furnace) , better torches that increase lighting (but takes up space in exchange for the brighter/larger radius of light) , and you're set.

>>14657195

A retardedly minor one.

>>14657973

Well, why do people want to decorate their houses after they're done building them?

>there were paid skins on the Win10 version that contained viruses

http://archive.is/U7fN3

Oh man, paid user content is such a great concept, isn't it?

>>14662888

How do you put a virus into a fucking png image,like,if the file size is more then 50kb you should be weary.

>>14662897

I was just about to ask this.

>>14662897

By knowing that Microsoft are massive fuckups.

>>14662904

I still don't understand you put a virus into an image,it can't be opened like an archive like an exe can to my knowledge.

>>14662916

I know you can hide them inside bitmaps because .bmp's store and process their pixel data in binary- thus you can create blocks of code with them. It may be similar for .png.

>>14662943

I'm not gonna click that because i'm paranoid,anon.

>>14662943

I don't know how Microsoft's version handles skins, but the Java version's skins are 64x64, and some of that space is completely unused. Making a skin that's even 10KB would be difficult.

>>14662996

>I don't know how Microsoft's version handles skins

In the most asinine and inefficient way possible if I had to hazard a guess and using history as a guide.

>>14663262

>>each update is less featured than the last

The real issue is that every new update ends up breaking old features. Even nearly decade old features. They have completely fucked water.

>>14663262

can i play with pirate launcher?

>>14663262

Is that related to /pol/andcraft at all? I know on that server they had religion and political selection options- somebody made the bolton's at one point apparently and they collected heads.

https://bot.notenoughmods.com/1.7.10.html

http://modlist.mcf.li/version/1.7.10

Bookmarked both of these last night, don't know how much this'll help.

>>14664460

I'll have to go looking around but there was a really great movement system that including climbing 2-3 blocks, among other crazier things

>>14664504

Smart Movement, it hasn't been updated for a long time.

It allowed grabbing ledges, climbing vines and craggy surfaces, crawling to get through 1x1x1 spaces, and other quality-of-life things that made the game infinitely more palatable.

>>14664511

That's what it was! I forgot about the 1x1x1 crawling, but God damn I was having so much fun playing it with an expanded biomes mod in a huge desert full of Mesas. Wish I could return the favor and offer you some good combat mods, but my main play time was prior to the combat revamp that was another nail in the coffin for the game.

>>14664524

https://authors.curseforge.com/forums/bounty-board/minecraft/233181-smart-movement-update-remake

Looks like someone is willing to pony up nearly full-game price for this mod to be revived.

>>14664460

>like enemy diversity, movement options, combat options, and more satisfying dungeon running?

I'm currently working on this. I've done more than 100 mobs with the custom NPCS mod, currently trying to find a tool to work on them.

>>14652534

You can clone them and yes, there's tools for spawning them randomly like mobs but I remember it being buggy and they slow your game down to a crawl, it becomes unplayable.

>>14664616

Won't work. Mobs made with the customNPCs mod are much "heavier" than normal ones, so a world full of them is simply not feasible

>>14666719

Considering the distance some autists will travel to avoid being messed with in minecraft servers >implying people still play minecraft to build on a server with people, is it possible that eventually the custom mobs will fuck with the game without regularly restarting?

>>14666719

depends on ur PC I guess but the random spawning is fucked and will spawn trillions of them no mater what you choose

>>14672086

why does your gargoyle have boobs

>>14672191

I bet you're just jelly of those sculpted pecs

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