e86c63 No.14598281
Lets get this thread out on a tray. Nice. M'kay.
So Snake Eater has a subsistence system, Breath of the Wild and Survive have cooking and recipe based systems and mmos treat them as optional buffs where you can never starve.
What games do hunger AND cooking right?
e7c4aa No.14598294
This is going to sound dumb, but Minecraft had the most autistic cooking mods for anything I've ever seen. It was trivial to have so many possible food options that you'd put actual restaurant sims to shame with the variety of shit you could make, all of which did something different.
It's a real shame that it was grafted onto an abortion of a game, but there's something to be said about terraforming your own farm anywhere you could possibly want and setting up a diner at the bottom of the ocean.
055f8a No.14598303
>>14598281
I liked having to eat every once in a while in STALKER. You don't have an obnoxious 'hunger bar' which you need to constantly worry about, but instead you just get a mild reminder every 30 minutes or so that you gotta eat, and food in the Zone isn't particularly hard to come by.
Gameplay-wise it doesn't add much, but it does add to the immersion in my opinion.
69ba7c No.14598315
>>14598281
Don't know of any, OP. All it usually boils down is "make sure to keep this bar filled to not die (which is ridiculously easy as food is everywhere and cheap)" or "eat this for a short term small buff (which usually isn't even worth the effort of opening the inventory)". I think I'll second >>14598303 in that it's better to have that bar not make you eat every 5 minutes and that it can serve as a nice, albeit ultimatelly inconsequential, way to draw you into the game more. Aside from STALKER, Kingdom Come also has this mechanic.
78cf19 No.14598332
I wish more games did it like Arx. Eating isn't really an issue because your character can go a long while without food, but you better bring yourself something (rolling pins, flour, fishing rod, extra food), because if you eat all your food for HP and haven't eaten in ages you're in trouble.
edddf7 No.14598336
>>14598332
You can literally summon food from magic. Its the same system from Ultima Underworld.
0146e5 No.14598339
>>14598281
>I could do with something to eat
The obvious one, Kingdom Come Deliverance. You can hunt game in the woods, poaching, skin animals, sell the meat or eat them FUCKING RAW. Or you can cook them, add extra ingredients, make a meal out of it. You can poison npc's as they eat as well from cooking pots. There is a whole variety of different foods, you need to eat or you WILL starve, and if you starve it affects negatively your strength.
78cf19 No.14598342
>>14598336
>You can literally summon food from magic.
Never really got that far or messed with magic. I got to the dwarven mines and killed the alien monster then quit. That kinda ruins it for me.
e86c63 No.14598346
>>14598336
>literally coffee instant
4d9504 No.14598348
MREs are actually better than people give them credit for.
52dd7e No.14598355
>>14598348
Damn right they are,i used to order them from amazon but stopped due to low dosh
d6cf03 No.14598357
>>14598281
Mabinogi has a hunger system that ties into your stamina, which ties into all of your actions. If you don't eat you can lose up to 50% of your total stamina, which sucks but doesn't render you useless. It's also fun to pick foods, because they can make your character fatter, thinner or more muscular.
Is it true Steve is a /k/ommando?
e86c63 No.14598362
>>14598348
/v/ got me into watching steve while playing metal gear solid and it was so comfy and i really want to try the jalapeno meat patty ones.
9b98f8 No.14598378
There’s no hunger but the Trails games have a good cooking mechanic that can get you items you’re going to need to use in a pinch. Like buffs and debuffs.
b6ac9f No.14598391
>>14598294
Minecraft can be extremely fun. I had great times on the KC server. It's dead these days though, a shame.
78cf19 No.14598408
>>14598391
I still don't get why people screech over Minecraft. Sure Notch ran it into the ground with retarded updates but you can play older versions.
59f8a9 No.14598411
>>14598281
Avernum 6 takes place during a famine and I think you can starve to death
b8b345 No.14598415
4f1db7 No.14598429
Wurm after the cooking update has people making human stirfry, dragon pizza and goblin meat pies.
6d1f92 No.14598434
dce8c6 No.14598439
>>14598429
I could go for some woad and lingonberry casserole right about now
0ebeb3 No.14599034
I come here for the SteveMRE memes. Not disappoint. Decadent Thread. Nice!
421157 No.14599156
>>14598281
Doesn't really do hunger or cooking right, but I always get hungry playing the Yakuza games. There's tons of restaurants everywhere and a ridiculous amount of different meals at each one. They all come with a nice portrait and I always get hungry looking at them; the restaurants are pretty comfy too. I'd love to go to a yakiniku joint and just pig out on a shitload of grilled meats, that shit would be so good. Have another steve.
7ec07b No.14599183
Project Gorgon
Fallout New Vegas Hardcore mode
Don't starve
paper mario pro mode romhack cooking is vital
Runescape Cooking was cool. This same cool factor is present in Project gorgon with instant-heal foods with the metabolism bar.
Food as healing items is cool and Cooking as a secondary profession that is very efficient or practical is cool
Tales of games all have a cooking mechanic
cd0c6f No.14599187
>>14598411
Are these games any good, or are they incredibly autistic min-max games?
8f6f68 No.14599197
>>14598281
>Trying to pit Reviewbrah and Steve against eachother.
Stop
7b8dfe No.14599206
anyone wanna draw up a table of the different hunger/food mechanics?
6c8c1c No.14599227
>>14598281
Guy on the right is really attractive.
78cf19 No.14599229
>>14599183
>Runescape Cooking was cool.
It was pretty shit tbh, and I say that as someone who did nothing but cook as soon as I got into the cooking guild. It only worked because runescape had this strong feeling of "You can do anything in this living breathing world"
8f6f68 No.14599234
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>>14598357
>Is it true Steve is a /k/ommando?
He has a few /k/ exclusive pieces of memorabilia on his shelf at the back but those might have been sent to him by fans.
4b22df No.14599307
I think Ultima 7 had a good implementation of hunger. In that game, your whole party needed to eat, which could make providing for all of them a bit tiresome. But once you had some money, you could fill up crates with food and load them onto your wagon (or your ship, or your flying carpet) and only have to worry about it once a day. I think it helped make the game world more fleshed out. You don't get to cook a whole lot in that game, though.
Space Station 13 had a few interesting cooking systems. On Tgstation (and quite a few others), you have a hunger level that reduces your ability to move rapidly once it goes too low. Which is a nice way to penalise the player without causing actual harm. On Goonstation, you have several dishes that have special capacities. For instance, a giant hamburger that kills you with cholesterol, chilli that makes you burn, cake that can hold both an arbitrary filling and an icing made of any substance (which can have many different effects in that game), etc.
c203f7 No.14599820
Hunger that requires periodic, but non intrusive use, while at the same time having mechanical depth without bogging down gameplay.
Bad: Minecraft (constant need for running, healing, also lowers max HP)
Good: Resting in Might and Magic. Increased food cost on difficult terrain, certain hirelings could reduce food costs to a minimum
9a13e8 No.14599877
>>14599234
Nobody willingly puts a state of Jefferson flag up and Ivan the Remover in plain view without being a /k/ommando.
bbf80f No.14599885
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>>14598281
Dragon's Crown has you and your allies cook and eat all the monsters you've killed at the end of the day.
97e082 No.14600018
Odinsphere had a real good one.
81ba96 No.14600130
>>14598357
i think he leans more to /out/ compared to /k/. He's a civvie that does /ck/ related stuff by the virtue of him being so interested in military rations. Also he's /fit/ enough that any t-shirt he wears looks good on him.
Steve is a good man, and is probably a good ideal to aspire for military larpers.
28bd9b No.14600147
Monster hunter, Terraria and FFXV has a food mechanic where they give you buffs.
Monster hunter has a hunger mechanic where your stamina bar goes down and cant be replenished unless if you eat some meat.
>>14598408
Minecraft is only good with mods tbh.
e86c63 No.14601567
032c90 No.14601579
>>14598281
In New Vegas food is actually better than any other healing item and can turn you into a literal god that destroys whoever dares to cross their path
d748d7 No.14601581
>>14600130
He seems like a nice guy.
a9ac24 No.14601592
>>14598339
Yeah KCD is good for its survival mechanics. Not intrusive, food is easy to come by if you're out of supplies.
d0da82 No.14601596
cabaad No.14601613
>>14598348
can confirm
t.former soldier
51fe63 No.14601620
>>14598362
One of the most upsetting things to me was finding out caloriemate is pretty weak as a stable ration. Saved me from actually ordering some, though.
be678b No.14601709
>>14598348
MREs are nice, just don't skip out on the choc and energy bars. You'll regret it.
fef1f5 No.14601743
Yakuza Ishin/Ryu Ga Gotoku Ishin has this weirdly addictive side content where you maintain a small farm and can cook meals with your crops afterwards.
80c564 No.14601749
>>14598362
It's a pretty solid MRE if you eat it as a burger with the wheat snack bread as a bun, but it's not nearly as good as pic related.
e86c63 No.14601762
>>14601749
that sounds fucking gourmet/10
51fe63 No.14601767
>>14601749
Man, now you got me craving canned bacon.
262329 No.14601850
>>14598355
The fuck for? They're good to store for emergencies if you have a lot of room but motherFUCK, US military MREs are expensive. It's better to make your own preserved food if you have that kind of money laying around, and if you're eating them for the flavor you could be eating a lot better for the cost.
7c2340 No.14606071
>>14598281
>taste renders all food enjoyable
is this a reference to Buddha lol
4d9504 No.14606342
>when you're hanging out with your woman and you crack open a Jap MRE
0b40f8 No.14606349
>>14606071
>he doesn't know Steve is the latest incarnation.
543a53 No.14606545
Hunger is the ultimate no fun allowed-mechanic, prove me wrong faggots.
f449af No.14606579
>>14606545
No, it isn't. Sleeping is always worse.
91847f No.14606583
>>14606545
No I agree, the hunger got out of hand quickly in Don't Starve, a game that put emphasize on the hunger system. Every cycle is just me trying to find ingredients for next meal instead of exploring. Maybe I just suck at it.
91847f No.14606589
>>14606583
On the other hand their food list is pretty impressive, some vital ingredients for weapons or constructs can be eaten too when the situation is dire.
79ffbc No.14606686
>>14606641
Shut the fuck up, anon.
251d1c No.14606734
>>14606641
Hello Todd, how's your day been?
576760 No.14606971
>>14606579
>>14606545
>tfw hunger AND thirst mechanics
249a3e No.14607021
>>14606971
>some foods are dry and make you thirsty
>alcohol makes you thirstier
>vomiting makes you hungry and thirsty
>>14606579
>can't sleep if you're too hungry or thirsty
576760 No.14607046
>>14607021
>soda makes you thirstier
7ec07b No.14607050
>>14599229
I liked the fact that cooking products sold well on an MMO market, unlike WoW.
I also liked the fact cooking was simple unlike in WoW, so it was practical easy money, but that's subjective.
Cooking was a very good skill because food were your healing consumables. It was comfy to see the 2D spritework back then for food, selling swordfish back then, then sharks. Shame bots ruined runescape.
3cdaf1 No.14607052
91847f No.14607056
>>14607037
They're barnacles apparently
7ec07b No.14607058
>>14606545
Hunger as a mechanic is handled perfectly in Project Gorgon. Food is a buff, not a necessity per ser. You won't regen health/armor/power out of combat unless you eat something. However, you cans imply forage an apple if you explore 2 steps, so you're never fucked, it's just a matter of how much effort you put on your food buff (strong food buff really helps with in-combat regen)
I also like how it has a food buff, a snack buff, and a drink buff, allowing three different skills for food and drink buffs.
32b369 No.14607067
>>14607046
heavy sugar drinks will eventually lead to more thirst
a00d38 No.14607109
>>14599885
>>14600018
Don't remind me. Playing these games while on a tight food budget was a bad idea.
863c2b No.14607136
>>14598281
Real life, if you're a gopnik like me.
731cd0 No.14607235
>not mentioning cooking mama and how fucking up a single step can leave you with a mediocre meal or disaster
Mama is harsh.
Vanillaware games have good cooking systems that don't get in the way, they only buff you, but the buffs can be useful. The Oni loli gets even better buffs that are exclusive to her, so she steamrolls bosses.
0c9460 No.14607400
>>14598348
I've literally never heard a single person say a negative thing about MREs, except the constipation.
f123f9 No.14607448
>>14606545
As >>14606583 said, Hunger really went out of control, but that could be fixed doing something akin to factorio, after some phase of the game eating becomes irrelevant or completely unnecessary. But the possibility of decay could be always creeping in, for example, an enemy could fuck up your Magic Farm or something.
0b40f8 No.14607525
>>14607514
>67 years and the tins barely even leaking, kept me waiting huh? cool.
WOAH-HHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO
f76240 No.14607535
>>14598332
>Arx Fatalis.
Man, talk about a disappointment.
0ebeb3 No.14607540
>>14607525
>Puts on Gas Mask to open up 70 year old pork and beans.
>Psycho Mantis?
e5d465 No.14608114
437ad7 No.14608235
>>14601592
It's fucking garbage for it's survival mechanics. Fast travel, free fucking food all over the place, you're tripping over game and looted food and there are perks that next to eliminate the need for rest or food altogether.
a52800 No.14608316
>>14607046
Most sodas have so much sodium in them that they dehydrate you. Colas in particular are harsh offenders of this because the high sodium, sugar and caffiene combination makes it so they really dehydrate.
Some sodas like root beer though dehydrate so minimally or not at all and are okay.
t. guy who suffered organ failure at the hands of severe dehydration and spent too much time learning about it as a result.
9e7f77 No.14608328
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead has by far the vest implementation of food I've ever seen. You don't need to eat constantly, but you're going to need a storage of food if you're going to sit down and read a lot of books/craft something for a day/rest to heal your injuries. Eating is rare enough that cooking is a nice thing to do once in a while, and food is scarce enough that it needs planning to stay alive.
Speaking of staying alive, ypu can live off of chips and dry cereal alone, but it won't be healthy. The game tracks vitamins too, so eating varied foods is a good thing. Also, the skill gains are dependant on your mood, and eating a proper meal will keep you feeling comfy for way longer than a quick bland meal. Thanks to the crafting system of the game you can also substitute most tools and ingredients with other ones, so you can just as well cook meat in a pot over a stove as on a stick over a pile of burning books. This is the only game where you can casually set a house on fire to boil your morning coffee.
576760 No.14608366
>>14608316
So you're telling me that if you drank nothing but soda all day, you'd be in danger of dying of dehydration?
I'm not saying you're wrong, but I know little of this field.
719d1a No.14608382
>>14608366
Yes, I think that's what he's saying. Also keep in mind that you get water from a lot of foods and humans can survive on a minimal amount of water for a much longer time than no water. Sodas are filled with sodium and addictive sugar in order to entice you to drink more soda.
0d7a0f No.14608435
>>14608366
Death isn't the only symptom of dehydration. You'd sooner die from heart failure than dehydration if you drink nothing but soda.
73e4b4 No.14608492
>>14598281
DQ Builders. Food functions as both sustenance and as buff potions.
a70706 No.14609491
>>14606545
If hunger acts as a simple debuf/buff system with annoying/rewarding bonuses for starving or being well-fed, it's great.
If it's just a fucking timer for your death and results in monotonous repetitive work just to fill it up and let you play for some time until the timer gets low again, it's pure trash.
032c90 No.14609502
>>14598348
Civilian ones are generally not as good as Military.
578b91 No.14610675
85cd9f No.14611329
>>14607021
Wine doesn't make you thirstier. It's actually great.
4a9dca No.14611380
Haven and Hearth didn't have much in the way of a huge variety of foods you could make, in my opinion, but it did end up with a rewarding system to govern eating.
You have a hunger bar, but it depletes only when your stamina is drained, and only to refill selfsame stamina bar. When you eat, you get Food Event Points, the number of which is dependent upon your highest attribute and lowered if you eat different kinds of food. When you reach the limit, you get an attribute point, randomly selected from the Food Event Points you'd acquired.
So let's say your highest attribute is ten. You go on to eat a carrot from some fucking Russian's farm for a single Perception FEP, a blueberry you found on your way to the Russian's house for a single Intelligence FEP, and a deer sausage you found on his body after you slew him for two Agility FEP and two Strength FEP. Because you ate three different things, you didn't have to get 10 FEP in order to get a new attribute point, and so you ended up with a shiny new point in Strength and the Russian's house key.
8a4e4e No.14611388
>>14598348
Its hit or miss, some are pretty good and some destroy your colon. I remember having brisket one day at the range and I had heartburn and farted non stop for almost 24 hours. But jesus do I love maple pork patties.
t. armyfag
8a4e4e No.14611394
>>14601663
Buffalo chicken is great
59277e No.14611659
I like when food isn't just there to satisfy "hunger", but rather has regular health and stat bonus uses. In Runescape food was just health potions, but I absolutely adored cooking in that game and spent so much fucking time making stacks of apple pies and cakes and shit. In Dragon's Crown food had all sorts of stat buffs. All of this makes food and cooking not something you "have" to do, but something you "want" to do.
>>14606583
I don't think hunger ever hurt Don't Starve. It was all of the other shit they kept shoving in that ruined it, like unending insanity debuffs from being a little damp in the rain, and RNG fuck-you fires during summer, and honestly bad combat that kept being more and more the focus of the game.
78cf19 No.14613731
I started watching Steve again and he hits this weird line where I can't tell if he's being sarcastic or not. Even in his editing.
9eed19 No.14613775
>>14606545
Weapon Degradation.
78cf19 No.14613811
>>14606583
>Hunger getting out of hand
>In a game called "Don't Starve"
The game wasn't about exploring it was about surviving. The most fun I had was trying to make it through winter. If my strategy failed, I would come up with another one. It gave you so many food options. Fishing, jerky racks, crockpots, etc. This is what the game should have been about. Instead they decided to branch out to the exploration cucks and add shit like the cave system. It's actually easier to survive the caves than it is on the surface, because there's no winter, no dogs that can burn your base down, and lobsters that will protect you from the worm invasion.
f9fea2 No.14613876
>>14607400
Okay, well here's one. They used to have hot dog mres and they were absolute SHIT. Don't discount the vegetarian mres, though. My bros would bitch about it if they got one and I'd snatch that shit up quick
d977a7 No.14613933
>>14608328
Last I checked vitamin deficiency and vitaminosis was not implemented, despite foods having values for them. Any progress on that front? Also did Rivett fuck off finally?
9ca3e4 No.14623494
>>14598281
>old wartime rations are interesting and historic
db81f1 No.14623868
>>14598281
Breath of the Wild really baffled me. There were a lot of specific kinds of recipes you could cook if you matched the ingredients, from omelettes to cakes to fried bananas and buttered apples and pumpkins stuffed with meat and rice balls and stews and curry. But it was totally unnecessary and didn't do anything special for you at all so it was only there for fun and profit.
As the Harvest Moon games went on, they started to include lots of cooking to utilize all the foods you farmed. Food is solely for regenerating stamina, but the newer games, Trio of Towns especially, have fucking mountains of recipes you can cook, along with cooking contests to enter in (both single-dish and full course) that reward you with even more recipes. And certain recipes also provide buffs, from stamina regeneration to boosted speed to slowing the passage of time. A lot of foods are just fluff but collecting recipes is really satisfying for me, I'm learning about foods I've never heard of.
Also posting Dragon's Crown foods just because I had it on hand.
ec31ee No.14623950
>>14598281
>steve
>perfect physique
It's just average, you non lifting scum.
0b40f8 No.14625434
>>14623950
>he thinks anyone but lalahomos like full bulk tier
just because you jerk off to mr universe in secret doesn't mean everyone does /fit/
089876 No.14625615
>>14623868
The biggest issue I had with the cooking system was that it didn't let me use Chuchu for potions and that it focused too much on healing. For my first run I vowed to not use healing items mid combat. Most of the cooking was worthless to me outside of elixirs.
975c17 No.14630538
>>14623950
Better than the average anon's fam.
ec606f No.14630589
>>14601613
>>14611388
Thank you for serving our country.
Now it's time for me to serve your cocks
72b052 No.14630609
>>14598303
It's relevant for stamina recovery, I like how vodka makes you hungry in STALKER