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>page 11 with nothing

wew

2nd for mhw.

>>14595903

It really goes to show how much of a flash in the pan World was.

>>14596174

I'd still be playing but my one friend who owns it refuses to play with me.

>>14596174

The game has fuck all content, requires ps+ and pissed off half of /v/ into avoiding it.

Who would have thought this could happen?

>>14596909

We may not know you irl but were your friends too anon.

*we're

>>14596909

just play the countless other monster hunter games available. I think you can use online multiplayer on emulators too.

>>14596174

Still better than mhx. :^)

>>14597781

what is going on in that webm

>>14597781

>its_not_a_bug_its_a_feature.webm

>on something that actually was a bug

That's not how you're supposed to use that meme. I'm disappointed in you.

>>14597821

A bug with one of the healing items in the beta could cause one of the greatsword's attack to hit once every frame, which combined with the weapon sticking on hitting a weakpoint meant that every hit would slow down the swing and make the animation last a little bit longer, causing the attack to be a near infinite number of hits.

>Citra still needs you to dump 3ds files to play MH4U

REEEEEEEE

>>14597963

just download them off the internet like you download your rom you retard

>>14597854

How is that supposed to be a negative?

Thats a lance feature that was also in the previous games.

Its okay to not like lance but don't be a bitch about it.

>>14598029

I have yet to find anywhere where they are hosted, apparently Nintendo does a good job of getting any instance of them online taken down

>>14598057

I don't remember going at sanic speed across the whole map without chugging dash juice.

>>14598071

https://github.com/B3n30/citra_system_archives/releases

>>14598089

those aren't the real system archives btw but I am not going to risk real sites to spoonfeed you

>>14598196

>>14598089

Just buy a second hand n2ds and get cfw on it dipshits.

You get the genuine experience and get to play with the rest of us who have or actually bought 3u(lan only)/4u/xx

>>14598212

It's not like citra can run 3U or 4U anyway

>>14598283

XX is Generations: Good Edition

4U is a completely different game, it runs at 60FPS for one difference.

>>14598283

Gen/XX is Dark Souls 2 of Monster Hunter

>>14598301

> it runs at 60FPS

It's just not capped at 30, which admittedly looks nicer,but not even the Wii U version runs at 60FPS.

>>14598358

4U was never released on Wii U.

As for 3U, the 3DS release actually runs better than the Wii U version and the 3DS version rarely drops below 50.

>>14598373

How does Tri compare?

I'm sort of interested in how waggle works with these games.

>>14598373

3U is perfectly emulatable on Cemu

>>14598468

Compare to what?

3U? Its just a worse designed version that has less content and also runs worse. It has less monsters than Portable 3rd, you don't start with all of the weapons available, no G Rank, shitty controls even with a pro controller and so on.

>>14598481

It runs better than it runs on Citra but it certainly isn't perfect.

>>14598527

>it certainly isn't perfect.

Name one problem that isn't nitpicky shit tier

>>14596909

If a game's not worth playing solo, it's not worth playing at all.

>>14597496

I figured it would be the case, though I was surprised it sold as well as it did in Japan, though even there it didn't do anything on X's numbers.

>>14597756

Honestly, I think XX was better simply because you could just go to Guild Style and ignore the Hunting Skills to shut off most of the stupidity of the game. Not to mention it had a lot more monsters, and the new ones it added were mostly good.

>>14597895

>game is fucking dead in 4 months

Try 2.

>>14598254

>in the public at my age

I'm in my 30s and I'm playing my 3DS and Vita on public transit all the time. Stop caring what normalfags think.

How big a deal is base 50 armor in 3U?

>>14598931

Huge. It trivializes all of Low Rank and most of High Rank, and even at end game G Rank, it's the equivalent of filling out your end game sets on True Armor Spheres. It's especially a boon for Gunners, but even for Blademasters it's pretty ridiculous.

>>14598972

I was none the wiser back when I played it in 2013-2014.

The game made you so tough that I easily managed to do a naked run of the game up until after lagiacrus.

How do i get more blossom tickets for the armor or is it only 1 a day

World Roulette has been a yuge success. The subsistence roll another anon suggested in the last thread is super fun. Great Jagras on subsistence is really fun to fight even.

SPRING FESTIVAL IS HERE FUCKERS

If you missed some of the previous event, now is the time to do it all. Here is the list of event that are available;

https://fextralife.com/mhw-spring-blossom-festival-its-contents/

>>14599591

>have some fun finding out how MHW is exactly like Dark Souls!

This is why if you have to link this garbage, you use archive.

>>14600000

oh fuck who got those delicious quints?

>>14599628

I was just going to ask what is wrong with fextralife till I read the author's bio.

>PrimeraEspada91, or simply Primera, is a poet, writer, and youtuber. Primera loves reading Tite Kubo's Bleach and Albert Camus' works. Primera is an avid fan of Childish Gambino, Lana Del Rey, and The Brian Jonestown Massacre.

>>14598931

Massive in low rank, almost like wearing two suits of armor at once. In high rank it starts to fall off a lot, but it's still a noticeable difference. By G-rank it barely matters, it's somewhere between a 5% and 10% increase in defense and most monsters will tear off over half your health bar either way. If you're autistic enough to care like me just keep your armor a few below whatever the max upgrade currently available is and you'll end up at about the same defense, or less. In G-rank, 50 defense is the difference between being two hit killed and two hit killed; everything does so much damage that 50 defense is almost negligible. Unless you're a gunner, because then it can still be a noticeable difference.

It's still an inexcusable change, though. It turns at least half of the game into an absolute cakewalk.

>>14599000

>I easily managed to do a naked run of the game up until after lagiacrus.

It's unsurprising, 50 points of defense isn't much worse than a full set of low tier LR monster armor.

>>14600384

>>14598972

Thank you.I might consider using cheat engine to subtract 50 defense every time I play

>>14598589

Textures are fucking wrong, the game crashes after every prerendered cutscene, only the EU release even boots and graphical glitches exist up the ass.

>>14601598

>What are the lowest spec requirements

I've seen people running MH3U using a FX CPU so it probably would run on any okay to decent CPU.

>>14599591

>MHW

Just fucking

Pick up a goddamn 3ds or wiiU and play real monster hunter, or play FU or p3rd on PC.

Can we just split MHW off into a thread for hunting game archtype shit that's not monster hunter already? You faggots can go hang out with the god eater table.

>>14601598

Roulette has been a thing since at least FU. You roll for a random hunt condition, the monster you will fight, and 4 times for the weapon each hunter will use. It adds a bit of goofy randomness to the game.

>>14601598

>3 months

2. End of January.

>>14601641

With how confrontational and defensive the World spergs get, they really should just make their own separate board so they don't have to be in danger of seeing a Monster Hunter fan.

Why is there so much negativity here what the hell.

>>14601879

Hang yourself. You don't belong here.

>>14601929

Fuck off I play Monster Hunter I belong here more than you who probably bitches about every thing

>>14602743

talk to your barber, chat up that cute redhead at the register in your local supermarket, fuck that landlady. You know, socialize.

>Spring event kicks off

>Gives players a butterfly maid costume

Costume isn't unlocked for crafting yet

Do I need to pass a certain point in the story or just need one of those spring vouchers to unlock it. I need that maid costume!

>>14601825

you forgot the part where it gets its tail cut of and still continues to run away and jump the gap

>>14596174

>>14598122

Just mad World isn't exactly the game they wanted.

>>14603140

Naw world is a legit shitty Monhun game. Not as bad as Tri but aside from looks it's just trash made for casuals. On top of that there's a lot of bullshit that is missing or changed for no real reason. The UI and lack of certain flourishes after actions being the most immediately noticable aside from the literal floating health potions or premade traps in every location

>>14603164

t.fox grapes pro

>>14603164

you're just listing reasons why World is unlike any other of the mainline MH games, eg "Not the game you wanted."

>>14603178

>I've got World, and have been back to playing FU since my DS's shoulder buttons don't work and not being able to run kind of fucks with playing 4U. The game's just bad. It's pretty, but bad for a monster hunter game.

>>14603201

I don't believe you.It's just easier, not a bad game

>>14603140

>Just mad World isn't exactly the game they wanted.

No fucking shit retard. Something not meeting your expectations is one of the primary reasons to dislike it.

Did you think that was some kind of "gotcha" statement?

>>14602876

I am so lonely that sometimes in World back when I wasnt fucking glitched out of the squad. I would just chill and talk about life with some of the anons there, it was kind of a surreal yet charming experience for me.

>>14603164

Would you describe it as the SSB:Brawl of monster hunter in a way? Because thats how some of you guys are making it out to be.

Brawl was my first Smash Bros and I was deeply in love with that game back when I played it. It was an absurd amount of fun for me and thats how newfags probably think about world.

>>14603216

>proving me right: the post

If you don't understand your argument is weak in your own merit then I don't know what else to tell you.

>>14603204

Easier IS bad. It lowers the standard, which leads to more changes down the road. It's not even something objective, we've seen this happen in games before. On top of that, the game has microtransaction, which are never a good sign for a series' well-being.

As it stands world has a disappointingly small amount of monsters, a sever lack of weapon design diversity, several "Quality of Life" changes that weren't at all needed, horse-armor tier microtransactions, and redundancy in several areas like the new multiplayer setup completely making the Gathering Hall useless.

If it were just some action game, even a MHclone it'd be alright. But as the next game in the series it's shit and a big step in the wrong direction.

>>14603220

>your argument is weak because I say so

>its not my job to actually refute you

this tumblr tier logic

>>14603235

>refute your opinion

okay. All I did was say that your criticism was based on what the game was not rather than what it is. It really isn't my job to educate drooling-mouth retards who can't tell what makes a good reason.

>>14603285

>literally "its not my job to educate you but I am right and you are wrong"

straight outta tumblr

>>14603285

that argument makes no sense as it's a sequel. So it has a very set standard of what it should be.

besides what they "added" to the game is absurd quality of life improvements that no one wanted. Like mantels, ability to access item box during hunts/eat during hunts, weapons that all have incredibly minor differences because capcom is lazy, not to mention boasting a very small roster with a promise to release new monsters on a schedule so poor it'd make valve blush.

Look guys old monster every 4 months! CAPGODS AT IT AGAIN

>>14603375

Don't use manlets, item box during hunts

Small roaster was in Tri too.Don't tell me you dislike Tri too.Also quality>quantity

>weapons that all have incredibly minor differences

Only valid complaint.

>>14603426

>Just don't use it

Then what's wrong with gen/xx then? Just stay with guild style and don't use hunting arts.

>>14603426

retards at it again. Lol just ignore it!

>>14603426

>quality>quantity

Except World has neither, that argument would work with Tri's monster selection but not World's.

Good job using the "Don't use it" argument, worked really fucking well with every other game that casualized its series. I'm sure an anon has the Thiaf webm somewhere, I should save it so fucktards like you can shut up.

>>14603444(checked)

You don't understand anon, Frontier is actually a masterpiece of design, after all if you don't like the tonfas and Moxie stacking, you just don't use them!

>>14603426

The game is seriously lacking in content and you can tell from the game. There is a severe lack of monster variety and you can tell from the weapon variety. How in the hell is there only a single water monster? If you remove the recycled elder dragons there is also only a single ice, and lightning monster as well. I like monster hunter world but don't just wave off the problems it has.

>>14603509

Original Tri on Wii is easily the worst mainline monster hunter game.

>>14603652

Yeah in terms of content even World looks awesome compared to Tri. How did they put out a game with only 17 monsters?

>>14603778

Both MH1 and MHDos had more monsters than Tri even on the original release. If you want to shitpost, pretending to be a retard isn't the best way to go.

>>14603778

You fucking idiot did you even look at the other games rosters? Size of roster isn't the only thing that matters but if it is too low it just limits your options too much and makes the game worse. It's even an issue in MHW for example if you want to use a water weapon you are stuck with using Jyurtados weapons. Tri was my first Monster Hunter game and I cleared everything in it in less than a week. For a game where even the garbage like MHX gets 100+ hours out of me Tri was unacceptable.

>>14596160

So how is these water battles like that were removed from P3rd Portable? Are they good to be removed?

>>14604008

Wanna phrase that again?

>>14604016

I heard that there are water battles (swimming) in the original 3rd, but those are remove from Portable 3rd. Is this good or bad?

>>14604027

Majority of people didn't like them.

They are faggots

>>14603164

There is literally 1 or 2 traps on each map. They don't even last 1/5th as long as a normal shock or pitfall trap. It's just there to make the environment feel more alive. The only environmental bullshit that sucks is the Grymylkynes and their vine trap. The god damn thing lasts like 30 seconds. It's fucking retarded. Also the vigor wasps are also in a couple of areas in each map. Most of the maps don't even have them.

As for the various toads, they are risky as fuck to use. A monster can just as easily knock you back into the cloud. They effect you and the monster exactly the same.

>>14603851

MH1 has exactly 17 including kirin, which was only conditionally available, as well as 3 drome recolors and every single large monster except khezu being part of a paired set which fight extremely similarly. By the logic of MHW>Tri because of roster size MH1 also fucking sucks and is trash.

>>14604001

>Yeah in terms of content even World looks awesome compared to Tri. How did they put out a game with only 17 monsters?

>For a game where even the garbage like MHX gets 100+ hours out of me Tri was unacceptable.

Your entire argument is that tri sucks compared to world because you didn't play it as long, you're outrighting stating that X was better just because you had more play time in it. Might as well say that COD is better than Vanquish because vanquish only lasts a couple of hours or that TERA is better than DMC because they keep adding more shit to it. Honestly there are so many other reasons to complain about tri, but the absolute count of large monsters in the game is stupid and doesn't even take all content factors into account anyway.

>>14604027

You won't miss out on anything with water battles gone, not sure whether to say it's outright a good or bad thing though. The biggest issue with the underwater areas was that they were extremely empty and dull compared to how much effort went into designing the land maps.

>>14604120

>MH1 has exactly 17 including kirin

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHF1:_Monsters

>inb4 its not the PS2 monster hunter

The PS2 monster hunter isn't even worth playing with the online servers dead. Tri didn't even have simple variations like Jade Barroth or Sand Barioth.

>By the logic of MHW>Tri

Which part of Tri being the worst main line monster hunter you do not understand?

>>14604027

Swimming was largely bad. The swimming areas were empty nothing, the swimming controls were bad, Tri didn't even have a Plesioth to put the underwater combat in perspective. Its done a lot better in 3U.

3U fixes a lot of the problems the underwater sections had.

>>14604190

You are arguing with bar none the biggest autistic faggot in any general.

>>14604190

>MH1 has exactly 17 monsters

>Yeah but MHp1 has more so you're wrong

Uhh, thanks? You know some people did actually play mh1 when the servers were alive right? Either way Mhp1 is the worst mainline monster hunter and it's still a better game than x, xx and world.

>>14604195

I've only made 3 other posts and I'm already the biggest faggot on /v/? I thought it took a bit more than that to beat out /v/ on faggotry.

I don't want to resort to cheating: are DB's without Dash Juices shit?

>>14604267

Depends on which game, but dash juices are really not that neccessary to play normally. If it's a real issue get stam recov or marathon runner. Marathon is generally better, but stam recovery up allows you to quickly get enough stamina back for a dodge after fully depleting your stamina bar, which also means you can force yourself out of demon mode with a dodge to put your stamina at 0 fairly safely and with less animation lock than using a manual demon mode cancel.

>>14604120

>MHW>Tri because of roster size

Read the thread. There were multiple reasons listed for why Tri was bad, the smaller roster is just one of them. Don't ignore everything else and pretend that the roster is the sole factor that people here care about, especially when you admit later in this same post that you know about the other factors for why Tri was bad.

>you're outrighting stating that X was better just because you had more play time in it.

He outright states that "Size of roster isn't the only thing that matters", I don't see why you're trying twist that into him saying that X was better "just because" it had more playtime (from a larger roster).

>>14604027

A little bit of both. Underwater combat was a great idea and changed up the gameplay in a very fun way, but a shitty control scheme on the Wii and 3DS crippled it, and it was lacking in content. I believe that the lack of a good controller with dual analog sticks was its number 1 biggest problem and the chief reason people didn't like it, but the devs are retarded and now it's never ever coming back again even though we're finally on systems with controllers that could handle it properly.

>>14604294

3U game in mind

>>14603140

Pretty much. I was hoping for a Monster Hunter game and got something that, while at least in the same genre, really wasn't Monster Hunter.

>>14603204

Challenge is a huge part of what makes games good though.

>>14603228

>If it were just some action game, even a MHclone it'd be alright. But as the next game in the series it's shit and a big step in the wrong direction.

This. World should've been a new IP, it would've been fine on it's own. Comparing it to Monster Hunter is what makes it a pile of shit.

>>14603285

>All I did was say that your criticism was based on what the game was not rather than what it is

And considering the game is part of an ongoing series, that is a perfectly legitimate type of criticism to make.

>>14603426

>Don't use manlets, item box during hunts

This is always a terrible argument to make, but especially for World, since a lot of World's shit simply can't be turned off or ignored. XX you can at least play Guild with no Hunting Skills and mostly be fine, and even there I wouldn't use that as an argument to say it's a good game.

>quality>quantity

Very true, but World doesn't have any quality.

>>14604267

Not shit, but do require you to be better at stamina management than other weapons. Dash Juice just makes them ridiculous

>>14604302

I'm willing to believe you since I really did only skim through the thread after seeing someone post 'MHW>Tri', but I've gone through it thoroughly this time and the only comment about Tri that isn't directly referring to the level of content is here

>>14598527

Which is comparing it to 3u and p3rd, not to every monster hunter game nor to every mh mainline game, and there isn't much argument to make that tri was the worst gen 3 game, aside from having barroth before he was neutered.

>He outright states that "Size of roster isn't the only thing that matters"

I just went through all the posts that he (assuming the other guy I'm replying to) made, and he never said that, you said that.

>>14604001

>Size of roster isn't the only thing that matters

I'm not inclined to accuse people of ID hopping and I'd prefer to think that you just got confused about who said what in the thread or that there's some other post I've missed, but it's still weird that you'd be so quick to quote someone else as saying something that only you've said.

>>14604338

3U DBs are fine without dash juices, in fact, due to how (relatively) overpowered slime was you can make a pair of slime DBs in 3U and not even have to worry about building elemental DBs. Although you will still get better damage out of the appropriate element, but in most other games the difference between correct element and raw/poison DBs is like night and day, whereas slime compared to correct element is probably only something like 10% more damage in most cases. You probably still need water dbs if you want to fight brachy with DBs though. Since 3U uses the revamped moveset stamina management is a lot easier, in the earlier games putting out good damage with dbs was a lot more reliant on juices for demon mode since they were much slower and clunkier. More of a hammer with a high hit rate and low MV than an SnS offshoot.

>>14604384

>I'm not inclined to accuse people of ID hopping and I'd prefer to think that you just got confused about who said what in the thread or that there's some other post I've missed, but it's still weird that you'd be so quick to quote someone else as saying something that only you've said.

My apologies, there's 3 people here and two of them start with 9, since I was only replying to 2 at first I didn't notice there was another id. Let me know if I've made any other mistakes.

>>14604267

Stamina management is pretty important for Dual Blades but the main goal of using demon mode is to actually fill your bar and enter arch demon mode.

Dash juice isn't necessary at all.

>>14604359

>perfectly legitimate type of criticism

<why didn't they make the game I wanted!

???

If you have to make a comparison between MHW and previous entries in order to delinate something negative, rather than something wrong with MHW itself, then you aren't judging it with an unbiased opinion. Its as simple as that. If you say its UI is bad, then thats fair. If you say its too easy, then thats fair. If you say it sucks because it has all these features that make it more "casual", like scoutflies then you're being retarded. You don't like X because it wasn't in previous titles and for no real other reason than that. It wasn't the game you wanted. You won't reach anyone who doesn't share your biased opinion and you end up looking like a baby-back bitch when you cry about MHW discussion shitting up MH threads.

>>14607602

High rank armors have an alpha and beta variant, usually trading skills for slots. There's often some visual difference between the two versions, but it's often not very drastic.

Trying to reduce defense in 3U with Cheat Engine to get rid of 50.Found the address but the value(defense) goes back to 50 after I change it to 0

Guess I will have to live with it and handicap myself by not crafting armor in whole LR and not upgrading armor in HR

>>14604195

He's not the gunlance faggot though… or is he

>>14607641

>If you have to make a comparison between MHW and previous entries in order to delinate something negative, rather than something wrong with MHW itself, then you aren't judging it with an unbiased opinion.

When you make a sequel, it's going to be compared to the previous entries in the series. You could make more of an argument for looking at it without comparing it to other titles if you were making it an entirely new IP, but even then people are going to compare it to similar games, especially if they've been playing games as much and for as long as the average /v/irgin has. This isn't limited to video games by any means either, we do the same thing with every type of media. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this. Having high standards and expecting better is absolutely our prerogative as an audience, no matter how many pained cries of "entitlement" certain pieces of gutter trash may make. World is by far the worst Monster Hunter game I've ever played, and a huge drop in quality for the franchise.

>>14608851

What did you dislike about World?

>>14609183

The review another Anon made several threads ago that got Pastebinned in the OP summarized a lot of it much more eloquently than I can, the bit about commitment especially. It's also just too damn easy, and there's never really any feeling of accomplishment for coming out victorious.

>>14609323

>Define quality for me please.

quality

ˈkwɒlɪti/

noun

noun: quality; plural noun: qualities

1.

the standard of something as measured against other things of a similar kind; the degree of excellence of something.

>How can a low quality game become the most successful MH and highest selling capcom game within a week to a month?

By appealing to the lowest common denominator. Quality has little to do with sales figures.

>no matter if the changes were good or fun or for the better

Changes for the better are great - 3rd gen's introduction of an extra page of inventory for Gunners or for gathering items mid-quest were great, as was 4th's introduction of Item Sets, and I do like how World put monster parts in a separate part of the item box from the "main" items and stacks them all into one square rather than having, say, all your stockpiled Normal 2 Shots take up an entire page of the item box. However, I do think most of World's changes were not good, fun, or for the better.

>I wonder if he was okay with the hunting styles though?

God fuck no. If not for World, I'd be able to say X was the worst MonHun I've played.

>>14601825

That webm has been around for months before launch. Why are you lying?

Anyone got any advice for gold crowns (large and small) in World?

I heard size manipulation was a thing, but all the guides I found were jank as fuck, and involve getting investigation that are 1 gold + 1 silver, which I've long run out of

All I've got left are elder dragons left to crown, and I know how to measure their size, I can just never get the right size, even after 50~75 kills of each god damn monster

>>14610712

do investigations with 3 or 5 initial repeats, check all monsters that you need and abandon the quest if there are no big/small, if you think you see a big/small kill it and use return to base or finish quest, either is fine, use PS+ to save scum if you run low on investigations and use the cats to get 5 investigations in the area you need them.

OR

USE THE FUCKING EVENT QUESTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO GET CROWNS, the spring fest brought them all back at once, they are the 5 monster hunts, the barroth in the arena challenge and a few other, google it.

I was one of the first people to do it so I know my shit if you need any more help.

>>14610768

whoops never saw this part

>All I've got left are elder dragons left to crown, and I know how to measure their size, I can just never get the right size, even after 50~75 kills of each god damn monster

the advice still applies (the 3/5 initial repeats), all of the elders sit down very early in the investigations for them, so use barrel bombs to check sizes, take pictures etc and only bother killing when you think it will be a crown, tempered ones don't make a difference.

>>14610789

>>14610768

Ah, thank you for the advice. Measuring via barrel bomb is definitely something I did not consider.

I would use PS+ to save scum, but I'm actually using a trick to get free PS+ (the trial account thing).

Also, whats this about cats being able to get investigations? Is this the cats you can deploy from your room? I didn't know they got investigations, I thought it was just item rewards.

Since 3U DB's have natural Razor Sharp, what happens if you have Razor Sharp skill active?

Does it not work?

Do you get 75% slower sharpness loss in total?

>>14611164

>Since 3U DB's have natural Razor Sharp

Huh? Is that really true?

>>14607641

>If you have to compare this restaurant menu item to the times you've had it in the past

And it's clearly, overwhelmingly NOT what it used to be, then the restaurant has fucked up. If I order a fucking 13 that used to be a goddamn fantastic orange chicken and now I get a few scraps of soggy undercooked chicken and a bunch of french fries for no fucking reason, the restaurant has declined in quality and I will not go there. Is that still better than eating out of a dumpster? Sure. Is it unfair to compare to what it used to be? No, it's worse. Dumpster trash that I never wanted was never a problem. Taking something good and ruining it, saying "we will never make a number 13 as good as we used to" is actually worse.

Hang yourself for your blatant intellectually dishonest shillery, or if you actually believed that then hang yourself for being a drone convinced to spout bullshit in defense of companies that don't care about you. Blind fanboy cuck or shill, which are you?

>>14611237

Maybe its not actual Razor Sharp but separate blade hits are treated as one per attack.

>>14610226

Nigger, I know it's been around for months because I fucking made it as proof for these faggots.

>>14611013

3U is one of my favorite MH games, just because things are slower doesn't mean that I think its shit. In fact I was addicted to that game for months and would even play it in public

>Is a fast game inherently better to you?

Nope, world is just different because everything flows faster and things such as healing or gathering doest glue you to a spot for 5-10 seconds, the potion drinking was especially nonsensical and dumb in the perspective of the hunter.

>>14611307

>Monsters move like they're depressed.

<Shows the slowest late game monster in the game

probably because its a zombie dragon?

Wow you sure convinced me.

>SALES make it GOOD, it wouldn't be popular if it wasn't the BEST you goyim!

Its like as if you forgot one of the main selling points of MH, the multiplayer aspect.

It sold so much because the game had solid and fun gameplay with lots of weapon variety which got a lot of exposure due to the betas so people got to try them out themselves, streamers and youtubers shilled for the game too. Not to mention people wanted to buy the game to play with their friends, probably as they did during the betas. And of course with World they had to appeal to retards too due to the fact that not all people are able to git gud at videogames or their lower attention spans, but it doesn't hurt the core gameplay at all. Another thing about that is that the game doesn't fucking hold a gun to your head and tell you to use the item box in a pinch or eat while at camp and what not.

Mix those all together and you got a solid action game, in fact one of THE best and most fun and replayable action game these normalfags and casuals have ever played.

Its popular because its a fun game, nothing more nothing less.

>This bullshit you just spouted has outed you as someone who has not been here long

Not an argument

>>14611710

>multiplayer

i forgot shitters and casuals are allowed here too. the only good thing about mp is hame runs to farm shit.

>potion drinking is nonsensical and dumb

agreed, they should remove recovery of any kind since it's not like you can get hit in world with how fast the hunter is compared to the monsters and how much defensive moves they added to the weapons.

oh? ls brave counter needs brave guage and can't be chained midcombo? let's make that free instead in world.

>>14611710

>the potion drinking was especially nonsensical and dumb in the perspective of the hunter.

How? It's a balancing factor to make it so that healing isn't a risk-free get-out-of-jail free deal. I can give you gathering, but healing made perfect sense to be a risk/reward thing.

>Its like as if you forgot one of the main selling points of MH, the multiplayer aspect.

Selling point to normalfags, sure, but it's kind of a moot point to series veterans, especially considering they're requiring you to pay a regular fee to even access the online shit.

>It sold so much because the game had solid and fun gameplay

No, it sold because on top of doing a simultaneous worldwide launch they very aggressively advertised and made sure to pay all the right people to push it in the West.

>And of course with World they had to appeal to retards too due to the fact that not all people are able to git gud at videogames or their lower attention spans

That's just it, they didn't. There was never any need to sell to retards in the first place, and whoever thought they should ought to be fired.

>but it doesn't hurt the core gameplay at all

Bullshit.

>Another thing about that is that the game doesn't fucking hold a gun to your head and tell you to use the item box in a pinch or eat while at camp and what not.

You mean like how X didn't force you to use Styles that weren't Guild? That's an even weaker argument than it was with X, since environmental shit can't be disabled, the monsters' flinching thresholds can't be set back to normal, the AI can't be set to ignore other monsters and make them focus on attacking the player, the Armor system can't be fixed, etc.

>one of THE best and most fun and replayable action game these normalfags and casuals have ever played.

Which says a lot about how fucking garbage the shit they play is, considering this is the least fun and enjoyable Monster Hunter I've ever played.

>>14611870

>Selling point to normalfags, sure

MH is alive because of Japanese, who played it for Multiplayer.

>>14611921

Japan has tons of normalfags too Anon - why do you think garbage like Kingdom Hearts or Code Geass thrives?

>>14611870

if the argument was to ignore the dumb shit introduced in world and we apply that to other games, then without styles and arts, xx would be miles better than 4g.

>same shit 4th gen maps

>vanilla/guild mvs are actually balanced now barring cb which got it's moveset fucked

>more and better new monsters

>no relic bullshit

>deviants is better than apex but the ticket system is bullshit so it's moot

>no shitty cinematic story

>demondrug finally has a use again

>true raw instead of the bloated numbers

people telling others to gimp yourself and not use the features presented in the game as an argument are fucking insane.

the games should be judged with what's present or not. that's why as good as xx would be without styles and arts, it's still one of the worst mh since it has those things.

>>14611921

just like how fire emblem is a living corpse, i mean, alive because of awakening?

this isn't even applicable here since mhx outsold 4g so world was made to appeal to the west to pilfer more shekels

>>14611710

>the potion drinking was especially nonsensical and dumb in the perspective of the hunter.

Nonsensical sure, but a compromise made for the sake of game design, since monsters move in a way that gives you openings to drink potions. Monsters now still give you openings while you have better mobility while healing. See the problem? This is sloppy game design. They made the player more powerful and didn't give the monsters more tools to compensate.

>>14611954

Better mobility yes, but at the cost of not being able to do any actions during the heal, get hit, cover your ears from a monster roar, or even stagger during the healing process or the entire thing up to that point the white bar is at gets canceled. It also takes just as long if not a bit longer for you to recover all of your health from the potion at times I had to drink a potion then roll out of the last parts of the animation and miss out on some HP due to combat circumstances.

You can run while using a potion but you would still be using stamina, so if you run around too much while constantly chugging you can run out of stamina and be out of breath for 10 seconds giving the monster a HUGE window to get a free hit. So whenever I use potions I would pretty much just wait for an opening then stand still and drink, only moving if the monster is coming after my ass.

The more you think about it the more deep it surprisingly gets and I was only talking about healing potions. Antidotes take fucking ages to use so you can die while drinking it if your health is just that low and of course it can be canceled with a roll, but you use up the antidote and miss out on curing your poison status.

>>14611994

More depth as opposed to failing the timing, getting hit, likely being put into a stun position on top of losing everything you just healed and most likely dying before you get out of the stun in previous games? The new system is way more lenient and the depth you claim it has is simple, you either roll out of an attack and keep the health you recovered AND not take a hit or you take the hit like a retard for no reason. Hell I remember one time dying from poison because I couldn't heal in time in the previous games so it's not like dying while trying to recover is anything new.

>>14611994

>Better mobility yes, but at the cost of not being able to do any actions during the heal

That's literally the opposite of what World did though - you couldn't do any actions while healing in Monster Hunter games, but in World you can run freely while healing, and even cancel out of it at any time by rolling.

>I had to drink a potion then roll out of the last parts of the animation and miss out on some HP due to combat circumstances.

As opposed to losing all of it and then some from getting hit, like you would've in the older games.

>You can run while using a potion but you would still be using stamina

Just like normal running

>so if you run around too much while constantly chugging you can run out of stamina and be out of breath for 10 seconds giving the monster a HUGE window to get a free hit.

As opposed to the huge window to get a free hit they had when you were drinking a potion and unable to move before.

>Antidotes take fucking ages to use so you can die while drinking it if your health is just that low and of course it can be canceled with a roll, but you use up the antidote and miss out on curing your poison status.

Which is why you just use the Herbal Medicine instead to get an instant poison cure and some HP on top of it.

>>14612013

>The new system is way more lenient

Way more lenient than standing still for 4 seconds then having some of your HP instantly replenished? Eh, it depends I guess. I find the new system more practical of course.

>>14612036

Because the old system meant that if you failed the timing, you took damage. It was a binary situation, I should have used the word flexible, my bad. It also meant that the punishment was much more severe because if you got hit, not only did you lose the health you just got back but also risk getting stunned, which could very well mean death. Now you can roll out of the healing, which wastes the potion sure but you still get to keep the potion and you don't risk getting stunned, which doesn't put you in a seriously dangerous position.

>>14612036

>Way more lenient than standing still for 4 seconds then having some of your HP instantly replenished?

Clearly its more lenient, what world do you live in where being able to move/run, and dodge during a healing skill isn't more lenient

>but you don't use the full potion if you do

so not only do you get to move out monster attacks but assuming you somehow managed to fuck that up you can dodge and still keep part of the recently healed health

what part of that is LESS lenient than standing still for 4 seconds against mosters that are faster than their world counterpart?

>>14612380

>use old fashioned maps instead of GPS, don't be a casual!!!

>>14612477

Yes what's wrong with this statement?

>>14597849

I like you faggots are using webm still from before the game was released.

Tri casualized way more shit, and add underwater fighting no one liked, yet most you fags started playing when it came to the Wii.

>>14603851

>>14603778

Up to a few years ago Dos had the largest pool of monsters.

I include sub-species as they're at least fun in dos with monsters being a subspecies during the season changes.

>>14613984

D E S I R E S E N S O R

>>14613576

That Rathalos is actually really cute. I want it.

>>14611385

It was around since fucking TGS 2017 you fucking lying faggot. Why are you lying?

>>14613576

Oh shit these are kinda cool

Is this like amiibo for MH or something?

Which monster hunter is the best in the series?

>>14615101

Probably Freedom Unite, Portable 3rd, or JP 3U due to no free 50 defense.

How do you niggas feel about Stories?

>>14615135

If you like playing rock-paper-scissors, it's the game for you.

>>14615101

4U

If you just want to kill shit then Freedom Unite and XX have the most content.

>>14611710

>not an argument

I'm not "arguing" with you, because everything you said was illiterate NPC babbling you drone. I'm telling you to get out, and ideally kill yourself for the betterment of humanity

>the multiplayer makes it good

Is not the point you were trying to shill, and you can't twist that on anybody with two brain cells. You directly related sales numbers to quality.

>core gameplay hasn't changed

The same way the "core gameplay" of flag football isn't changed from fucking NFL league play you stupid whore. Die for the human race, because the best contribution you could possibly make is nothing.

>>14615101

my favorite so far was 3u

best roster, no fucking dromes nor khezu that pale dick, fuck yeah lagiacrus and brute wyverns except duramboros that fucking nigger

as a gs user i enjoyed underwater combat although some areas on the flooded forest was fucking shit.

>>14616224

name a more iconic duo than soyboys and that dicksucking expression

When progressing through village and guild ranks, do you only do key quests?

The armor system in world is so fucked. I got attack up 3, crit eye 5, evade distance 2, and thunder attack 2 with minimal grinding, and before getting to nergigante. There's no way anybody can argue that this isn't blatant casualization. And moving while drinking potions makes the game piss easy enough, but then they go a step further and have vigor wasps be instant heals of most of your health, and palicos spawn them and can also throw them at you. This game is fucking ridiculous.

>>14616322

On my first playthrough I tend to try and do every quest. On replays I'll speed through a bit to unlock farm upgrades and the like usually though.

>>14616344

Pretty much, with the least bit of attention it's easy to make a ridiculously powerful skill set. Each "point" of Attack Up is worth about 3 points of the old system, since they each give a bonus of +3 true raw, and then a +5 affinity bonus from Attack Up 4 onwards. A lack of Minus Skills and the fact that by and large you're better off constantly clownsuitting instead of making full sets also means you're much less likely to have a glaring elemental weakness as well.

>>14616322

>>14616344

checked

>There's no way anybody can argue

you'd be surprised, mate

>Pick up SNS again late into play through

>Tripfest due to LS and Bow arc shot cancer

>Make a slick SNS set with Nergs SNS.

>406 display = 290+ raw

>Get kicked constantly before joining some sessions

>I aint packing widerange.

Its gotta be due to all these fucking "medic" tier SNS faggots running around with Wide-range and mushromancer.

>>14618110

Who even checks skills anymore? People join up while I'm already fighting a monster I ain't got time to check their skills.

>>14618110

Wide range 2 doesn't even affect mega potions, it's a mushroomancer tier meme skill

>>14618110

Why even play online?

>>14618663

Actually playing with 2 people in world is probably the toughest way to play the game. Single player is absurdly easy and the multiplayer is a lot more tailored towards a full party.

>>14618694

>Actually playing with 2 people in world is probably the toughest way to play the game.

If the other player is worse than you, then yeah. Otherwise, two players of equivalent skill will be doing more than twice as much damage since there will be more staggers, more openings for things like sharpening or healing, and potentially more status ailment inflictions.

>>14618784

My experience, the most carts I've had have been two person parties. Don't know if it's aggro or what, but monsters tend to 'finish me off' way more often.

>>14620515

>960x544

>>14620569

what about it?

Any good torrents for MHW?

I'm thinking of buying it but I want to demo/benchmark it first

>>14620698

Its not released for PC yet

>>14620706

Oof, that'd be pretty important then.

Looks like they're planning on releasing for PC in Q3 2018 without setbacks. If anyone was wondering.

>>14620698

Definitely pirate it once it gets a PC release, it's not worth a buy until it has G Rank at the least.

>>14620698

>buying world

atleast you didn't buy a piss4 like my faggot self for trying the demo of this shitshow

>>14620717

Ya, I didn't realize the game was locked to consoles at first.

Was wondering why the game was barely breaking 30fps on these YT vids i've been watching.

>>14620724

It shouldn't necessarily be a hardware thing, considering 4U did 60 pretty solidly on the N3DS. It's just that World is a cluttered mess of little pointless environmental garbage that no one asked for.

>>14620567

Can you turn that helper faggot off in World? Just seems that getting a weapon tutorial mid-fight seems a bit excessive and that voice is grating.

>>14620841

Not 100%. You can turn his voice to Monster Hunter gibberish talk at least, and I THINK there's an option to just turn voice volume 100% off, but you can't remove the talk boxes entirely.

>>14620771

>considering 4U did 60 pretty solidly on the N3DS

In village maybe

DB X attack does more damage than A, right?

>>14621747

Which game?

The X attack has higher motion values while the A attack has more hits. Both end up doing the same damage assuming all hits connect.

>>14621747

Motion value barely matters at all for db, just focus on hit count and not getting hit, and the best way to keep hitcount up is to use the combos to keep moving while attacking. Trying to split x and a up like this is hammer or GS is a bit stupid really, but for reference, never use a basic 'a' spin outside of demon or arch-demon mode, it only spins once, meaning you can't cancel into a different attack or a dash, has a huge delay lag and also less revolutions.

'a' after an x+a forward slash or any x attacks lets you add a quick 2 hit (non-spinning) slash, this lets you combo into another forward slash with x, a spinning attack with 'a' or a demon dance with x+a. Assuming you're in demon or archdemon mode you can interrupt the spinning attack between the first and second spins with a dash or with x/a/x+a as well. DB isn't very hard, but if you just want to mash one attack you're better off picking a fun weapon for it like GS instead of becoming a demon dance spam shitter. The only fun part about dbs is being able to cancel into a lot of options (for MH) and keep momentum up easily, otherwise just about every other weapon is more interesting.

>>14620841

>Never use hunting horn even once in 200 hours of world.

>The horn is a support weapon here are the controls.

I was so confused. I had not seen a tutorial in so long.

>>14618110

This has never happened to me and I main SNS

>>14622010

What else are you supposed to use horn for? They nerfed the damage to kingdom come again, it's stun values are pathetic. Shit it's kill times are more than triple the second slowest weapon

>>14622044

Running to the supply box to bring rations back to the rest of the group, duh.

>>14621848

3U

>>14621848

Thank you for info.

I have been avoiding second A spin in Demon and Archdemon mode, it feels weak judging by hitstop and blood splatter.

It's my first time playing DB.I feel like complete shitter constantly during hunts.One LS hunt in between only-DB hunts just reassured it.

>>14622099

>Anon are you sure you're not a weeaboo?

Argosy gives his LS after defeating Ceadeus, just did one hunt to test 3U LS.I play all weapons but never played DB before as I found them very difficult(and still most difficult).

>>14622122

Wait you did better with the unupgraded event LS than DBs while just testing it?

Wow, it's kind of incredible how poor your fit with DBs are, I mean it takes a quest or two to get familiar with them, but once you're familiar with when you can cancel all you have to do is glue yourself to the monster and press buttons. Getting good at pumping out hammer golf pounds without losing lots of time readjusting, being able to fluently chain recitals in HH play and doing any decent damage with GL at all are much harder than DB.

>>14622419

Fastest clear times are under 1 minute of actual fighting.

>>14618784

Once it's multiplayer monsters stagger way less and the monsters have more than double the health. I don't seem to get anymore openings playing with 2 people over playing with a palico. In single player I can essentially stun lock some monsters to death, even big stuff like a Diablos if I am having a good day. I never do that playing in a 2 person party.

>>14622430

You mean single player, where his life isn't bloated by several times.

Two players is actually the best way to enjoy MHW.

>>14622122

Are you using raw DBs, or ones with an element/status? They benefit most heavily from element/status, so more than most weapons you want to have multiple ones to match what you're hunting.

>>14622440

If it's different in World's multi, fair enough, I'm not going to pay their retarded subscription fee so I was just going off how it's worked in the past. Still, if your second player is at least equivalent to yourself, you should be doing more than double the damage regardless.

>>14622605

How would adding another person do more than double the damage?

>>14622617

Like I said, each player will have more openings for things like sharpening or healing, or attacks that leave players otherwise more prone like HBG's crouching fire. If one or the other player is using an impact or sleep or paralyze weapon, that's two players who can capitalize on the lock rather than one. Potentially also means that many more LBB+ or Shock/Pitfall Traps. Barring one being a complete shitter, the output of two players is much more than a simple sum of adding up how they'd perform solo.

>>14622044

It's a gimmick gimper. Removes the edge from fire, roars, wind, poison, etc. That and if you feel your troupe needs a true support of course the horn fits in. It just received a fifteen percent damage boost on self improvement's encore, so it's not all nerfs.

Three horns, playing the full array of relevant buffs, can more or less stunlock a tempered kushala daora the four-five minutes that the attack buffs S/M/L/XL need to remove the health bar.

It's a weapon for people who need to feel like the game is working against them. Those strange folk who play Souls games without leveling. Like imagine playing DS1 with only the black knight sword, never locking on. That's horn.

>>14622450

2 players isn't slower or faster, the issue is a majority of the kill time is now just walking to the monster

>>14622419

lance baby here, I poke him for 15 minutes and he dies

>>14622419

feed him poisoned meat

>>14622848

It took me 30 mins to take it down with its own HH.

Never tried out gunlance in a while, I need to see how good that thing works against em.

>>14622776

>hyper silver rathalos fag is still at it

Daily reminder that Lagiacrus hasn't stopped existing. Neither have Deviants.

Numbers are also most likely inflated, I would guess both damage and HP numbers are larger, which would make it not directly comparable to previous games. It wouldn't be the first time, but it would definitely be the most extreme case. World also uses a different system for multiplayer HP scaling than the old games, where having more than one person applies a 2.6x HP modifier onto the monster (only 2.6x, regardless of whether it's 2, 3, or 4 players, though) - compared to previous games where the gathering hall quests usually had around 50% more HP at most.

>>14622419

>>14622450

>rages that monsters have too much hp

>[this] is actually the best way to enjoy MHW

Try getting good at killing an ordinary jho quickly, then tempered jho will probably be easier.

>>14622848

Okay i tried him again with bazel armor and GL but it still took me almost 30 mins to do.

How the fuck do some of you guys manage to kill monsters so quickly?

I seen speedrunners kill a fucking tempered nergy like this in 2-3 minutes effortlessly and it always takes me around 15-20 minutes tops even when I have a high atk set on.

I could do the exact same thing the guy in embed related does and take 3x the amount of time to kill the fucker.

>>14623490

>that embed

this is some god eater shit

>>14623506

Thats what happens when you git gud at DB.

When it comes to those I constantly struggle with running out of stamina and finding openings for attacks like an average DB player but that guy just said fuck it and threw that out the window and fucking raped the monster.

I know these guys are good but thats just fucking ridiculous.

>>14622450

>Two players are the best way to enjoy mhw

People that unironically believe this should off themselves. This is nothing but a design flaw that forces players to mp to experience how the game should be played.

If I can regularly kill non-tempered shit under 3 or 2 minutes solo, why the fuck would I play mp where I can't guarantee a decent teammate that wouldn't get in my way and make that last longer with 2 people?

Doesn't help that the Japs I play mh with dropped this game 1 month in so there's no one to play mp with for hame runs.

>>14623531

not to belittle that guys ability with dbs but hes basically playing with a massive crutch

>stagger/knockback proof mantle so he could actually spend all his time next to negy's feet instead of getting knocked down times he got hit with the tail, his legs, or the charge

>Nerg spent half that fight on the ground or stagerred

its also single player where monsters have ~same hp as they did in 4u, but weapons are at least 20% stronger

>>14623841

>but so are you.

please dont lie like that, you really aren't at all slower, you're just as fast as previews games before counting the new and abundant mobility options world introduced,

>>14624180

Using what's in the game isn't a crutch. Not using the mantles they've given you to gimp yourself is fucking stupid especially since worldfags love to say just ignore the additions so it'll be more challenging or some shit.

If that was the was the case and we ignore arts and styles in xx, then it'll be a better game than 4g

>>14624180

And forcing you to mp to experience how the game should be played is stupid level design.

Another mark in the long list of casualization for loners that can't gitgud or find people to play with.

The worst part about it is that there's no option to turn on mp hp during solo so I basically have to find a mate to hunt with and make him afk at the base so i can try speedrunning mp hp monsters solo.

>>14624283

Even if you don't use arts and styles in XX you're still stuck with the godawful pacing. Playing it with my brother through Citra (I have a 3DS but he doesn't) and it's not just the gathering quests like I thought when I played Gen, you need rare minerals to upgrade almost everything (they use dragonite ore as the main way to gate gear progression in LR for instance) which is pretty rare in LR so you have to gather a ton of it to upgrade your weapons so they can become the weapons you actually want.

For example, you fight Narga in HR2, but you need to upgrade the iron weapons to a certain level to upgrade them to Narga weapons. To upgrade the iron weapons to a level that lets you go to the Narga tree you need Dragonite, which is found in the volcano which is unlocked at HR3. So you can fight Narga and not be able to make its weapons because fuck it why should you be able to direct craft Narga's weapons like every other damn game in the series. The pacing is all over the place, it could have been fixed if you could just craft the weapons instead of being so reliant on upgrade trees for almost every weapon path. It's abysmal and to make a good variety of weapons you need a ton of ores and light/novacrystals, the latter being extremely rare for the amount of them you need, unless you like fighting Gypsy whenever you wanna upgrade random shit you're not gonna have an enjoyable time, you spend way too much time gathering in a game without speed gathering because they wanted you to use prowler mode to gather shit.

Gen/XX is flawed at a fundamental level, it's not even the arts and styles, the whole progression, quest and gear wise, is fucked.

>>14624340

Cherry picked

>>14624340

in 4g, you can't even direct craft zinogre's gs or rajang's and so on. so this line of argument is fucking moot as far as

>So you can fight Narga and not be able to make its weapons because fuck it why should you be able to direct craft Narga's weapons like every other damn game in the series

>>14624608

or just take zamtrios for example, a 4th gen monster whose sns you can't even directly craft in it's own gen.

>>14624557

Elaborate.

>>14624608

>>14624612

Anon, I was following up the fact that you can't make Narga's weapons until HR3 despite fighting it in HR2 because you don't have the dragonite to upgrade weapons to unlock the Narga path in them by suggesting that they could have made them craftable without needing dragonite so you can craft them in HR2, right after you fight it. Having to wait an entire rank to be able to make the gear from the monster you just hunted is dumb in my opinion. The only weapon types that have access to Narga weapons when you first kill it are bows and LBGs.

I don't mind upgrading weapons to unlock others and I like the idea behind MHXX's weapon upgrade system, but they severely reduced (or at least it feels like it) the amount of weapons you can directly craft (at least in LR) and instead have to upgrade basic weapons over and over again to make different weapons. This would be fine too if it didn't require rare gathering materials (for low rank, but in HR they get replaced with Carbalite so it's always the same hunt for your current rank's rare ore to upgrade weapons to make more weapons you actually want to use) that aren't fun to get because you can't even make a gathering set so you just go with the cat. Seriously there's so many weapons that you need around 5 dragonite ore to upgrade just so you can make another weapon you actually want. This is particularly bad because of the amount of dragonite you need if you want to make SnS, DBs or Lances of all elements.

That's what I mean with the pacing being bad, you need more busywork to do things like crafting specific monster weapons than in previous games, or at least it felt like it took more time, along with bizarre choices like hunting Narga and not being able to make its weapons until you rank up.

>>14623841

>In the actual game, you do get slowed down if you run while healing, it's a small decrease and it kills your stamina so it's actually a bad idea

How is running out of the way of a monster's attack a better idea than just taking the hit?

>Diablos is slower, but so are you

No you're not. You're faster than you've ever been.

>You can't instantly dodge out of a hit with most weapons. You have wind up, damage frames and a slight stagger afterwards.

That's not new to World.

Where to get translated XX for Citra?

Who is the worst monster of 3rd Gen and why is it Gobul?

>>14625063

https://mega.nz/#!keYmxTJQ!7-DCnem_8XIB7eubRD2oUH__GRHqXml0ccgX-Q1vpFg

>>14625159

Thanks

>Who is the worst monster of 3rd Gen and why is it Gobul?

That would be Stygian Zinogre

>>14624180

>>14623841

Not only are you not slower, but sheathing is way faster, even switch axe has a fast sheath animation now. Catching up to monsters with their gimped speed is nothing in world.

Does anyone have some good hunting horn setups? I heard the main ones are blast damage, paralysis, full on support, and increased stamina drain/stun. I have been using the dodogama horn and some blast damage, but I might build other gear for some other things I wanted to try.

>>14625983

As the attacks are pretty slow, you should favor raw damage over element or status. You should probably find the songs you like, and pick whatever has those songs and high attack.

>>14626033

Alright. Thanks. I heard the best set of horns are dodogama, bazelguese, nergigante, and the pukei pukei if you want to do full on support. I will try to get some diablos shit and some other better armor sets. I used to do bows, but I kind of got tired of using them and grinding for all the new elemental bows constantly.

>>14625759

They'd have to add a bunch of shit or pathing to make Khezu interesting since he doesn't really have any cave ceilings to cling to outside of Elder's Recess.

I'd honestly go for Giggi more since he's basically just a better Khezu, but if they're going to add any monsters they need to update them to shake up World's ecosystem a bit, otherwise there's no point.

>>14627059

>THAT IS G RANK BARROTH FROM 3U NOT TRI

That is Moga Village mandatory barroth from Tri.

>>14626945

1spooky2me

>>14627046

Gigginox/Giggi would fit very well in the rotten vale due to all of the disgusting shit there.

The lower parts are pretty much a cave system for them to hang on ceilings too.

The problem is that the ceiling may be too high in some areas.

>>14627084

There's those bone arenas in the upper levels where they can do some wall walking shit. They don't have to force in ceiling stuff if the environment has to be changed radically.

>>14627059

I think you are wrong anon Barroth was a fearsome foe in Tri. He was nerfed pretty hard in 3U.

>>14627087

Black Diablos has always been around and been way scarier than regular Diablos. It doesn't change the fact that Diablos in world is pretty much a joke.

>>14627102

Tempered Diablos is a fucking nightmare to the average player.

I fought it with some anons from /v/'s squad and he had quite a few carts to that guy.

In fact I had more trouble fighting that diablos than a G-rank diablos from 4u that I fought about 2-3 months ago.

>>14627111

>Tempered Diablos is a fucking nightmare to the average player.

Average World player is a normalfag shitter who couldn't wrap his brain around Monster Hunter before it had on screen text prompts per minute.

>>14627106

What are YOU even going on about? nothing you said conflicts with what I was talking about.

>>14627120

I'm not saying it makes the game bad I'm just stating the fact that he is significantly easier in this game. Just like Rajang in X was a joke. Even though he was one of the scariest things in 4U.

>>14627132

>So apparently then /v/ is full of casuals

Considering you are here doing damage control for MHW, I'd say yeah.

>>14627146

I'm pretty sure Tri is why I just ignore Barroth's gear in every game.

>>14627130

And Diablos is just like that here.

>>14627142

Everything's damage control if it disagrees with you, if you're going to be a pussy bitch who cries shill when you're whining over trivial shit, maybe you're the one at fault. I just play the game and like it, is that so hard to believe? It isn't western SJW garbage like you want everything new to be.

>>14627149

High Rank gives everything better movesets, and Tempered monsters are shit you have to go out and find to fight. I won't deny they're trying to attract a bigger crowd, but they have to in order to not get shitcanned by their publisher. If it's artificial difficulty to you, try not being shit at the game, oh expert MonHun patrician.

>>14627155

Maybe it's just you, damning everyone to save face is just childish man.

>>14627167

Ok so he's easy I don't know why you went off on a tangent about Black Diablos and Tempered monsters. Did that Gif of the guy dodging Diablos while drinking trigger you or something?

>>14627161

>most successful Capcom game ever

Before MHW that title was held by Resident Evil 6. That worked out well didn't it?

>>14627167

>but they have to in order to not get shitcanned by their publisher

Nigger they are their own fucking publisher and Monster Hunter is essentially Call of Duty of Japan.

But hey you aren't really damage controlling, just being extremely defensive and spouting retarded shit. That is completely different.

>>14627167

Tempered monsters suck they just up the damage it's lazy and hunting for tracks for a random chance to get a quest for a random chance at a resource you need a bunch of is horrendous. It's like they looked at the garbage that was 4U's endgame and figured out how they could pad it out more.

>>14627174

I don't think you understand, I don't GIVE a shit if Diablos is a joke. At all. You repeating the same shit over and over is getting tiring, why does it matter in the face of the whole game? Do you only hunt ONE monster?

>>14627175

I'm on the offensive, not defensive. You're the one who came on here with nothing but trivial complaints and you're full of shit at every bullet point. What's your issue, are you a counter marketer or some shit? I've seen anti-shills before.

>>14627195

Worked out so well that both Revelations 2 and RE7 barely sold half of RE6.

>>14627206

>I'm on the offensive, not defensive

Because making shit up to defend something is considered being on the the offensive.

>>14627217

Says the idiot who was chiefly arguing for someone else's glitch videos made before the game was even out. Seriously, fuck off with that shit.

>>14627217

As long as the resident evil games keep improving, i dont really care that 6 sold well.

7 is definitly a step in the right direction and revelations 2 is pure fan service with also a new plot device for future games.

>>14627206

>I don't think you understand, I don't GIVE a shit if Diablos is a joke. At all. You repeating the same shit over and over is getting tiring, why does it matter in the face of the whole game? Do you only hunt ONE monster?

Because it represents the direction they're taking the game. Making a monster known for it's aggressiveness and speed less aggressive and slower for casuals along with all the other changes, combined with how well the game did does not bode well for the series' lifespan.

>>14627225

>Says the idiot who was chiefly arguing for someone else's glitch videos made before the game was even out

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Ever heard of IDs newfag?

>>14627206

I don't know you brought it up in response to someone talking about how Tri Barroth was hard. He didn't even mention MHW and you started going nuts saying that the game is still hard specifically bringing up the nerfed Diablos.

>>14627230

Actually I thought 7 was a step back, they shouldn't force themselves into western horror.

>>14627233

I think you're overthinking it. How long have you been on this forum today and how long do you actually play games a day?

>>14627235

You're spouting the same arguments with the same bullshit as the idiots pulling dated videos from before the game was released, scroll up.

>>14627241

>nuts

I was making a comparison. People brought up Diablos earilier. Really you're complaining about individual monster difficulty, but they're released in quest form pretty early and thus are easier then later monsters, it's called a fucking difficulty curve. NO ONE talks about Nergigante, or Teostra or Kushala Daora, it's all early shit which leads me to believe that the complainers are parroting shit from people who only minorly looked into the game, or quit because they went into the game expecting it to be bad and thus only confirmed their expectations when something wasn't just right, like armor designs or something.

>>14627267

>You're spouting the same arguments with the same bullshit as the idiots pulling dated videos from before the game was released, scroll up.

Probably because you can't refute them or considering your retardation, can't differentiate them.

>>14627267

>Actually I thought 7 was a step back, they shouldn't force themselves into western horror.

How so?

Save for the lack of enemy variety and the whole mines part, the game was pretty fine.

If youre talking about the old 90s feel the first 4 games had (code veronica, not 4), then you and i both know we can never get that again withouth it looking forced.

>>14627267

Diablos is introduced in LR but because HR barely changes things up in MHW he remains at that level even in HR. Which is one of the biggest problems MHW has. Which is the same problem Tri had they redid huge chunks of the game and all that work on the base left all the other stuff feeling extremely lacking. From the monster count to the extremely samey weapon designs. MHW has a lot of problems right now especially for people coming from 3U and 4U.

This is nothing new though all initial Capcom releases are like this. Especially with a platform jump they cut out tons and tons of features to work on the core. Now I still believe MHW at the end of it's life can be fantastic. MHW is also a lot worse because most of the shit added was graphics and ecology shit which just does not appeal to what a lot of people loved about monster hunter. This thread has always been extremely harsh on MHW and that isn't going to change. Freaking out about people's nitpicks is not going to make them start liking it.

>>14627059

That is absolutely Tri. Look at the graphics for the L on the item select on the bottom right, and the numbers on the map.

>>14627087

>Tempered monsters are the hard mode monsters

And outside of potentially Tempered Elders, they're still not that hard.

>and when people bring up shit like Diablos being slow, they fail to mention Black Diablos/Nero Diablos who's much faster, much more agressive, has more moves and switches up his tunneling attack direction constantly and does twice as much damage.

That's always been the case for Black Diablos though. I would say Black has also been powered down compared to how she usually is, though not as drastically as regular Diablos.

>A lot of people who shit on World haven't played or even really looked into the game

I'm finding almost the opposite - a lot of the people who defend World and claim it's no different from the earlier games don't seem to actually know anything about said earlier games.

>>14627111

>Tempered Diablos is a fucking nightmare to the average player.

Because the average player for World is a complete newbie to the franchise and has no idea what they're doing.

>>14627111

>/v/'s squad

You mean 4/v/? Because we don't have a squad here, that one that got advertised was some disagreement shitposters.

>>14627161

It's only the most successful Monster Hunter title in raw numbers due to a simultaneous worldwide release backed up by an insane level of advertisement, to the point there was nonstop shilling going on in the months leading up to launch and for about two months after. On the other hand, if we compare Japan sales to the most recent non-G Rank title, X, it's pretty weak - last week's Famitsu says it's currently at a total of 1.9 million sales, now 2 months after launch, where X had passed 3 million in a little over a month.

>>14627167

>but they have to in order to not get shitcanned by their publisher.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, holy shit.

>>14627267

>NO ONE talks about Nergigante, or Teostra or Kushala Daora

I will - Nergigante is a fucking joke and not in the least bit threatening, and you will kill him in 10-15 minutes on the first try because pretty much all his attacks are telegraphed as fuck and all go just straight forward. Teo is a bit of an issue simply because the graphics are ass and make it hard to tell where the cheeto dust he shits is at times, but other than that he's not nearly as aggressive as he used to be, and the supernova is much more telegraphed than before. Daora no longer can be poisoned out of his wind barrier, but he also drops it much more often than before, and he doesn't seem to have a black version of his wind barrier anymore.

>>14627285

>Save for the lack of enemy variety and the whole mines part, the game was pretty fine

This seems to be the pattern with modern Capcom that isn't garbage, like MVCI. They have a serious lack of variety and it is extremely evident in MHW.

>>14627327

The comparison to X isn't completely fair since PS4 has nowhere near the number of machines sold in Japan that the 3DS had when X came out. Still though MHX was the first game to be less successful than it's predecessor in Japan. If MHW is down even further Capcom may be even more desperate to appeal to westerners. I thought MHW shot passed 2 million in Japan. and was one of the few console games to do so this decade in Japan. You got any links to sales data?

>>14627408

Well, but remake is simply put the best resident evil game, 7 its a step in the right direction but not a perfect game.

That said, its a lot harder to get the cinematography right for a game in a first person view compared to a game with fixed camera, and you could see that since the PS1 games.

>>14627267

>it's all early shit which leads me to believe that the complainers are parroting shit from people who only minorly looked into the game

People have been posting the same crappy video comparing a low rank diablos from World to an enraged, G rank diablos from 3U since long before the beta was released, and yet they're still acting like a low rank monster being easier than a g rank monster is a shocking revelation. People post footage of bugs from the beta or even from the earlier dev builds, as if they're still in the final game.

>>14627327

>I'm finding almost the opposite - a lot of the people who defend World and claim it's no different from the earlier games don't seem to actually know anything about said earlier games.

It goes both ways, I find. People bitch about MH games they've never played, or even parts of the game they know nothing about, and often can't give an actual reason why it's shit. For example, that one guy who kept claiming XX was casualized shit because of alchemy style or all things, or the countless people who bitch about IG being OP but think it's only because it has easier mounting. If you look at /v/ as a whole, or really, people in general, you'll see it's actually extremely common for people to bitch about things they know absolutely nothing about.

>Daora no longer can be poisoned out of his wind barrier

That effect was moved to Elderseal instead. Because fuck tradition, fuck an already almost useless status, and fuck Chameleos.

>>14627358

>The comparison to X isn't completely fair since PS4 has nowhere near the number of machines sold in Japan that the 3DS had when X came out.

Granted.

>If MHW is down even further Capcom may be even more desperate to appeal to westerners.

That's basically the doomsday scenario we're facing at the moment.

>You got any links to sales data?

https://www.famitsu.com/biz/ranking/

It's sitting at rank 14 for the week in question (3/26-4/1,) with 7480 sales bringing it to a lifetime of 1,924,972

>>14627448

>it's actually extremely common for people to bitch about things they know absolutely nothing about.

True.

>That effect was moved to Elderseal instead. Because fuck tradition, fuck an already almost useless status, and fuck Chameleos.

Ah, haven't bothered with using that thing yet, I presume it would probably trivialize the Elders even more than the game itself already has though.

>>14627483

How long does the event last for?

>>14627487

Elderseal downplays their more annoying aspects, like Nergigante's black spikes, and Teostra's giant fucking explosion. It just delays their worst moves, and isn't as useful on normal monsters outside of pure damage.

>>14627530

6th to the 19th

>>14627531

The fact that deviljho weapons also came with the highest damage, high elderseal and are available for every single weapon category makes them the lighting of MHW weapons.

>>14627531

So, just like I said then.

Did the DevilMayCry collab come out yet?

If so then what is its quest called?

>>14627611

nope not yet

>>14627553

Funnily enough they aren't the best weapons though, since some monsters actually resist Dragon. Raw damage plus Non-Elemental Boost are the best weapons, and Deviljho weapons are second best. Blast weapons are better for quick or multi hit weapons though, despite the large attack rating because attack rating really doesn't matter since it's multiplicative, so low damage speed weapons benefit more from status afflicting ones that inflict Blast, Poison, Paralyze or Sleep, Blast and Sleep being the best since blast does damage and Sleep fucks over monsters royally on their movesets. Really you should just pick end-rank weapons for looks because it really doesn't matter which one you use, if you're good stats won't impact a damned thing.

>>14628249

>Funnily enough they aren't the best weapons though, since some monsters actually resist Dragon.

You mean they just don't take any damage from the dragon element part of the attack? I'm pretty sure that Anon was just talking about the raw damage values, most people don't pay attention to element outside of specific weapons.

>Raw damage plus Non-Elemental Boost are the best weapons

Probably, but it also severely limits your choices of armor since it requires four pieces of Diablos or Black Diablos gear, so Jho's weapons have more versatility in gear choices.

>attack rating really doesn't matter since it's multiplicative, so low damage speed weapons benefit more from status afflicting ones

Weapons with multiple hits do benefit more from status than slower ones, but that's because to begin with melee weapons only have about a 1 in 3 chance of inflicting status damage, and I believe the values aren't affected by motion values, which is where the damage from things like Greatsword hits comes from. A higher raw damage ALWAYS matters, since it's directly tied to your damage output, it's just that in the case of multi-hitting weapons like the DBs you benefit much more from status (as well as element) than you would on slower weapons that rely on high motion values to deliver their damage.

>Blast and Sleep being the best since blast does damage

Specifically, it does set damage that ignores monster defense values

>and Sleep fucks over monsters royally on their movesets.

While that's not wrong strictly speaking, the real value in sleep is that the attack that wakes up the monster does significantly more damage than normal (I've heard 2x or 3x damage, probably differs between some of the games), so you want to bring Large Barrel Bomb+s and if there's a Greatsword user around let them deliver a level 3 charge wake up call, then during the monster's "restart" let anyone with an attack with a large windup like Gunlance or the Axe weapons unload as well.

>Really you should just pick end-rank weapons for looks because it really doesn't matter which one you use, if you're good stats won't impact a damned thing.

If you mean "a good enough player can finish any quest with any end-tier weapon" that's most likely true, but to say that there is no impact on what weapon you use is absolutely retarded.