e43725 No.14591458
This time from the faggot who programmed Gone Home.
http://archive.is/6mdAp
>"And then once you factor in the ~$140,000 I spent paying my contractors and collaborators for the game, you begin to see that maybe it wasn’t, financially speaking, worth it. I guess I will have to wait a bit longer to buy that Juicero."
>all out of his own pocket
>"oy vey us indie game studios are so destitute pls buy game"
What a maroon. For once I actually recommend reading the whole article because there's some juicy bits of retardation on the guy's part. Just remember for any /agdg/ fags reading this to buy your overpriced DRM riddled money laundering scheme literally funded by the CIA before using your mortgage to viral a game nobody wants.
Oh, and he's from San Fransisco just in case you were wondering.
eef540 No.14591475
>giving faggots the time of day
22abd6 No.14591480
he should have spent the money on Five Guys instead
dc1fc9 No.14591491
>At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard. It scares me
I guess he forgot the part where a game needs gameplay.
580943 No.14591525
>At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard.
It's so fucking funny how disconnected from reality they are.
He's afraid indie games don't have space anymore but that's obviously not the problem here. In fact there is no problem, his shit game didn't sell but there are fun indie games that do sell. He has his head so far up his own ass he's incapable of taking a step back and figuring out the real reason his shit didn't go well. This type of person is bound to just keep failing forever for the rest of his life.
48c1f8 No.14591535
Maybe it made no money because this is the first time I've ever fucking heard of it.
601d12 No.14591540
How horribly pozzed is this game?
e43725 No.14591541
>>14591535
I'm pretty sure it was shown at the PC E3 show last year but I can't seem to find any confirmation. All these hipster games blend together.
dc1fc9 No.14591545
>>14591525
>He's afraid indie games don't have space anymore
Good indie games sell like hotcakes, it's shit like Gone Homo and other walking simulators that nobody fucking wants. It boggles my mind that he somehow managed to invest $140,000 on this piece of shit and didn't realize that 99% of gamers could give less of a fuck about hipster trash.
Now that I think about it, whatever happened to that gay hipster jRPG where you throw vinyl records at enemies?
>>14591540
It's made by the other person that worked on Gone Homo, and the description says you have to survive manifest destiny.
791832 No.14591558
>>14591545
>It boggles my mind that he somehow managed to invest $140,000 on this piece of shit and didn't realize that 99% of gamers could give less of a fuck about hipster trash.
Boggle no longer, the answer is simple. SJWs are a loud majority. Clearly the dev of this game is a twitter bot and lives in his echochamber 24/7.
791832 No.14591562
>>14591558
>majority
I meant minority
6e9f5a No.14591563
>>14591545
>gay hipster jrpg where you throw records at enemies
You talking about Hylics? You better not be talking about Hylics.
dc1fc9 No.14591568
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14591563
I am talking about this piece of shit. Pure, distilled soy.
580943 No.14591572
>>14591545
>Good indie games sell like hotcakes,
Mediocre indie games sometimes sell like hotcakes, but the retard who made this shitty game probably doesn't have the mental tools to deal with this fact, so he rationalizes his failures in other ways that are more comfortable to him.
Seeing how he justifies his fuck up is actually a pretty interesting insight into how people with no mental fortitude think about things.
4f2b5b No.14591600
>>14591458
>make Gone Homo
>have your fuckbuddies at the press shill the shit out of it taking advantage of the success of horror games like Amnesia to falsely market it as one
>make bank
>5 years later
>think you got everything figured out
<gameplay?who needs gameplay?i have the press on my side!!!And the guy that was in Jewlander 2 !!
>make Gone Homo 2 3 (Technically Tacoma was Gone Homo 2)
>it fails
WOW
BUGGED VIDEOGAME INDUSTRY MECHANICS
ONLINE
Also
>Nordhagen is a video game industry veteran
>having worked as an Online QA Analyst and Software Engineer at Sony before joining 2K Marin as a programmer for BioShock 2
yeah and i have worked on an army base serving lunch in the cafeteria for 5 years,i guess that makes me a veteran too
Also,also
>Gone Home took a year and 9 months
2years for a game you nothing else but walk around,nearly 2 fucking years for a walking simulator people
486811 No.14591606
The theme on american folklore and meeting the characters from the tales is interesting, but where are the game mechanics?
It's another text-based adventure game with a boring overworld
Feels like yet another idea-guy "game", where they built the setting first but the gameplay for last
Yes, they got awards and a nice soundtrack, but that doesn't make a game successful, do they think cinematic experiences are sold mainly for their touching stories and themes? Fuck no, the plebs wants something to shoot at or kill with a shiv, and want to feel awesome doing it, not playing some slow ass skeleton with only text to interact with the world
>>14591568
Don't remind me
580943 No.14591613
>>14591606
>Feels like yet another idea-guy "game", where they built the setting first but the gameplay for last
Anyone have that image about how in Japan game pitches are one page long and they're all about how the game plays but in the west game pitches are several pages long and barely even mention mechanics?
631a20 No.14591615
>>14591545
>surviving manifest destiny
Good luck.
On a side note I would enjoy playing a Kingdom Come type game set in precolonial North America with different tribes vying against each other, but there's probably too little known to flesh out a game without making up bullshit and it would probably end up ultrapozzed instead of fun tomahawk war parties.
ea95bf No.14591624
>>14591568
They released the demo/episode 1(or whatever they called it), some anon streamed it some time ago, sadly I missed it. Heard it had a Final Fantasy VII reference.
e43725 No.14591626
>>14591600
He has apparently been working on this game nonstop since Gone Homo came out. Now, how many hours per day "nonstop" is to this soy elemental I wouldn't be able to tell you.
6aa8c2 No.14591628
>>14591606
>>14591600
>>14591525
>>14591491
>>14591458
>>14591545
There's actually a legimate point to disscuss here:
This game might be a artsy SJW walking simulator, but the larger issue of market oversaturation of indie games is a real problem.
How many fucking indie games come out on steam a day now? Like 20? There's no feasible way for an indivual indie dev who doesn't get lucky to get attention. There ARE tons of good games that go under the radar in the sea of bullshit, even if this one wasn't one of those good games.
It's not just SJW games that fail like this: A similar thing happened with Aztez, webm related which was CURAYZEE beat em up that has a really in depth combat system inspired by fightan games and Kamiya;s work that's all about mastery. It's as gameplay focused as you can get, and it bombed too despite media attention and press room way back, just because it got lost in the flood of other gamees releasing at the time: https://www.please use archive.is/2017/10/19/indie-games-steam-fail-aztez-developer-interview/
There needs to be a way for steam and other stores to curate out the low effort stuff so the higher effortt stuff games stand out more, without completely shutting out new devs who are learning from having a chance to get their foot in the door.
80d8af No.14591634
>>14591600
>yeah and i have worked on an army base serving lunch in the cafeteria for 5 years
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
ea95bf No.14591639
>>14591628
I doubt Valve wants to do any kind of quality control on their games, "let the gamers decide" is what they will say, heard there are even games on Steam that don't even have an installer or executor so you can't even play the piece of shit. On the other hand, you have GoG which does have some form of quality control, but not as many indie games(because of their quality control and smaller userbase), or even games in general(because of their no DRM stance) arrive on their platform.
347f06 No.14591649
>>14591628
Valve doesn't give a shit, Steam's search function is barely workable as it
759e60 No.14591652
>>14591628
you hit on the main point that I've heard brought up a few times already but with so many people releasing so many fucking games it's impossible for anything to really stand out unless you've done something extraordinary, marketed it well, orrrrr…
…are in bed with the indie game journo clique and can get your derivative navel-gazing walking sim turd in an inordinate amount of attention because it hits the right notes with the right people. Problem with this fag is that he is a he and not a brave tranny or woman that was harassed by the eternal boogeyman of gamergate
Ultimately, even though the game looks like crap, the fact that gone homo could get tons of attention for being a piece of shit walking sim proves that the creator didn't leverage connections and market it at all, which led to the (deserved) flop this is
486811 No.14591662
>>14591628
Seems like nowadays, if you don't have a huge marketing machine behind you like Cuphead, or make some streamer bait, your game is good as dead, no matter the quality. Just put some memes and make some meta joke and hope it sticks for the influencer to make you free advertisement
At least games journos are yet again proved to be useless to sell games, which makes me happy to see them get their reality check
>There needs to be a way for steam and other stores to curate out the low effort stuff so the higher effortt stuff games stand out more
I don't think they will ever bother to clean their store, seems like a landmine of lawsuit if someone's game get filtered into the shovelware alley
dc1fc9 No.14591666
>>14591615
The closest we got is Expeditions: Conquistador from the cucks that made Vikings. At least in Conquistador you can roast the spics in the name of Jesus.
>>14591628
Fair point, but I think this turd would have failed anyway. The hipster craze is over, everyone got the "high brow" gaming out of their system so all they want is something fun to play.
>>14591639
I'd much rather Valve not meddle in what goes onto the store, because that is just begging for a leftist takeover so they can send every non-kosher game to the gulag.
640c34 No.14591670
The title doesn't even make any sense. "Where the water tastes like wine"? Is that supposed to be an appealing sounding fantasy? Because that sounds horrible.
Every time you want to quench your thirst with water you get a bullshit blast of bitter, sour, fermented grapes that a french person squeezed using their feet. If I had to live in a place where the water tasted like wine I'd probably neck myself in a week.
a4bbee No.14591673
>Gone Home developer Johnnemann Nordhagen released his newest game, the American folklore title Where The Water Tastes Like Wine,
c302db No.14591676
>>14591458
This article was made before the game launched right?
Then you could say this about any game.
Before its on sale you have spent a lot of money and not yet got anything back.
In fact you could say that about most business ventures.
Sounds like this dev knows his game is bound to fail so hes getting his complaining in early.
e43725 No.14591681
>>14591676
It's over a month old. Came out Feb 28.
c302db No.14591692
>>14591681
Ah OK I stand corrected.
Before he spent 140,000 on celebrity voice actors, someone should have sent him that infographic showing that the average game on steam sells only 2,000 copies.
4f2b5b No.14591693
>>14591628
>market oversaturation
no such thing there are good games,there are bad ones and then there's the shit that falls between the cracks;anything else is PR bullshittery of the shilliest degree
>>14591634
fuck off,as if i haven't heard enough of this shit by now by every jarhead motherfucker thinking he's seen some shit just because he's been abroad firing his rifle a few times at some camel jockey not missing the opportunity picking up some cheap cigars and couple venereal diseases while he's at it no doubt
but one of these days i'll show them,i'llfluoridethe water and we'll see who'll be laughing then
f41908 No.14591698
>>14591628
I already have made a effort post on this topic in another thread. As we can see now, Steam has made itself a comfy Atari-tier flood of games and therefor the market became stagnant, because many people have already been burned by buying some hipster garbage. Th AA part of the totem pole is already eating the lunch of independent scratchware devs. The indiescene as we know it has been defunct since a year after gamergate.
b94067 No.14591705
>>14591458
>At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard. It scares me
Maybe he should try making a good game instead of an attention whore parade aimed at the journalist demographic.
PSA: A game's need for a manual and its quality usually have a positive correlation.
e27543 No.14591709
Good.
All leftists must be killed or starve to death.
>>14591491
Every single one of those characteristics, including the awards won, are a reason to not buy the game.
Leftists are delusional to the point that they get scared of not being able to influence people via cult of personality.
>>14591540
made by a leftist.
Even if it is not pozzed, don't ever give money to leftists.
>>14591628
The only thing that matters now is WHO makes the games. If a game is made by a leftist, even if not pozzed, it must never be bought.
>>14591652
The price of letting easy to use tools available to everyone.
Games must always be an elitist activity to remain good.
>>14591666
Valve can use money to purge leftists instead.
c302db No.14591714
>>14591705
That just proves how ineffective the Video games journalism industry is. They have become so ideological that they dont serve their primary function anymore.
I work in a different industry. And if a small company gets even a brief positive mention in one of the top media outlets, it can set that company up for years to come.
1f7b55 No.14591717
>>14591568
The fuck is that music? It's like a very bad ripoff of "Where Do I Begin".
37ffa3 No.14591719
>>14591545
>Now that I think about it, whatever happened to that gay hipster jRPG where you throw vinyl records at enemies?
Apparently they're still working on it even though it's been delayed for literally years at this point. They seem to be working on the Switch port it was supposed to be a Wii U port but the only way you could find this out is on their twitter which is mostly nonsense and not updates.
But even that will probably sell better than OP's piece of shit because it at least meets the criteria to be called a videogame.
d788c4 No.14591731
Fuck this game. Why can't you make a non-degenerate game about skeleton hobos?
759e60 No.14591737
>>14591731
this sounds pretty cool actually
696f0e No.14591739
>>14591615
A game about tribes like the Apache or Comanche or the Sioux would be pretty cool. Or hell, there really hasn’t been a proper Aztec game, has there?
72e414 No.14591745
>>14591731
Agreed. Why does every interesting concept/genre/setting/style have to be corrupted by marxist filth?
d788c4 No.14591750
>>14591737
Also for some reason this game is simultaneously taking place in Manifest Destiny, Reconstruction and the Great Depression, despite all of them being completely distinct time periods.
3508c5 No.14591751
>>14591745
Because its the fucking cultural marxists who make these games. Why cant /agdg/ team up to make some unpozzed project already
6aa8c2 No.14591756
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14591628
Posting the article I tried to link via archive.is because I forgot we have retarded filters that make posting links a pain in the ass even when the articles are actually good journalism:
http://archive.is/rVgJF
>>14591639
> "let the gamers decide" is what they will say
The thing is, this is sort of a valid point: How it is now doesn't work due to what I mentioned, but having it be a closed/walled garden where ONLY super polished, high effort games get in would be bad too. Something like stream greenlight, but not handled retardedly, would be the ideal solution: Have a seperate section/process for newer indie devs/more low effort projects that the community can curate themselves.
>>14591652
>Problem with this fag is that he is a he and not a brave tranny or woman that was harassed by the eternal boogeyman of gamergate
You mean OP's game? OP's game is litterally made by a bunch of kotaku/polygon journalists and writers. One of the people writing it is literally one of the people who doxxed TFYC. So that's not a case of the devs not being in a clique, they were. The game just sold poorly because nobody cared, i'd assume.
If you mean Aztez: It's set in the Aztec empire, so you'd think SJW's would be all over promoting it since it's a minority culture, but in my expierence SJW's don't give a shit about promoting games set in the civilizations and cultures of minorities, even though that'd actually be one of the only valid reasons to give a shit about diversity, they just want to shove in minorities into roles in other games for whatever reason
>>14591709
>>14591666
>>14591615
>>14591739
I second that expeditions conquistador is really good.
> I would enjoy playing a Kingdom Come type game set in precolonial North America with different tribes vying against each other, but there's probably too little known to flesh out a game without making up bullshit and it would probably end up ultrapozzed instead of fun tomahawk war parties.
I don't think the game would bee very fun in what's now the US: It'd mostly just be wilderness with the occasional tribal village. The few native american goups that actually had early towns and cities,and were devolving into actual states, like where the mound you posted was from, had already collapsed by the time colonizers came in from the eastern coast thanks to dieases coming up from the spanish conquests in Mexico. Lack of historical records would also be a problem, as you note.
A kingdom come get set in Mexico/Guatamala with the actual advanced civilizations would work though if you picked the right time period: The Spanish unfortunately burned almost all of their books and written records, but a lot of stone steele survived in Maya cities in the jungle that documented the time from around 200ad to 900ad, and a lot was written about Aztec history from 1200ad to 1519, by survivors and their childern as the conquest was going on, so both of those would work.
That would actually be pretty much my dream game.
dd01e4 No.14591771
>>14591751
>Why cant /agdg/ team up to make some unpozzed project already?
Because majority anons in /agdg/ are unable to work in team.
72e414 No.14591783
>>14591751
It was a rhetorical question. I have yet to see /agdg/ embrace some interesting aesthetic/setting. Not saying it's all bad, but I haven't seen anything that really stands out.
>>14591756
>a lot was written about Aztec history
Interesting. Any book you would recommend on the topic?
>they just want to shove in minorities into roles in other games for whatever reason
It's not about raising anyone up, but about tearing european civilization down.
a14f43 No.14591786
>>14591628
>>14591756
>dude this game is underrated lmao
>posts nothing but videos of comboing a dummy
unless comboing a dummy is the entire game, in which case I'm not surprised it failed its sales
e43725 No.14591788
>>14591756
They don't care about minorities because they're nothing but ballot fodder for their policies. That said, they hate whites way more.
0efc81 No.14591793
>>14591628
>There ARE tons of good games that go under the radar in the sea of bullshit, even if this one wasn't one of those good games.
Pure conjecture, As you said, nobody can filter through the shit that gets put on Steam. A look at the "recently updated" category however shows nothing but indie titles that are obviously worthless. Statistically speaking there must be some good games in there but the percentage is most likely tiny.
Also this whole oversaturation isn't exactly coming out of nowhere. Anyone with half a brain could have foreseen this years ago when the pixelshit trend started.
03bd98 No.14591797
>I have yet to see /agdg/ embrace some interesting aesthetic/setting. Not saying it's all bad, but I haven't seen anything that really stands out.
About the only ones I can think of from /agdg/ are Risk of Rain and Deadbolt. RoR2 gives me PSO vibes aesthetically.
b5832a No.14591799
>>14591458
Seeing a hipster get financially destroyed for stupid decisions brightened up an otherwise dreary day for me. Thanks anon.
22d110 No.14591807
>h-heh check out this shit game no one here would've fucking heard about as long as they're not one of those retards that willingly look for shit to get mad over
>isn't it shit? haha I hope someone buys my game
I find out about sjw games here more than any other fucking site I visit; quit being a shill and think before you post.
d788c4 No.14591822
>>14591797
Is the same guy doing the soundtrack?
c302db No.14591830
>>14591807
>I find out about sjw games here more than any other fucking site I visit;
Do you visit Kotaku or polygon?
0e4fc3 No.14591847
>>14591491
>gameplay
Sorry, anon. That's a toxic word and both RPS and PCGamer banned them
4cb12c No.14591848
>>14591799
>tfw neither of these girls will peg you silly while laughing at your small dick
0efc81 No.14591849
>>14591830
Why should he if he doesn't care about AAA and indieshit? I know it's hard for some of you dickniggers to comprehend but people come here to get away from the cesspool that is modern gaming culture.
aff9e1 No.14591860
>>14591848
>Any pegging whatsoever that isn't gentle and loving and in the amazon position
c302db No.14591863
>>14591849
I wasnt asking if he should. I was asking if he does.
d838a0 No.14591864
>>14591714
Yeah its a fucking joke.
But thats because even the older video game magazines and such were bought by big publishers to begin with so people dont expect anything else these days.
Its just a shitfest when you rely on the advertisements from the people you are supposed to criticize.
Add to all of this the sjw bullshit and you got yourself the current form of video game "journalism". Its closer to a personal blog run by a group of people than real journalism.
0efc81 No.14591870
>>14591863
Let me rephrase that:
Why would he?
a4bbee No.14591873
>>14591628
>webm
>mfw i can finally make my ancestors proud
dcab24 No.14591875
70b681 No.14591879
>>14591847
Is she a spic, white or a mix? I honestly can't tell.
c302db No.14591893
>>14591870
Some people just enjoy blind rage every so often.
Its probably not very healthy though.
The point I think I was going to make was that the SJW sites promote SJW games and rail against anti SJW games. We do the inverse.
Most sites, that really drive sales would be more neutral.
c27b75 No.14591898
>>14591541
>E3 show
>PC E3 show
that shit aint even cringy thats just sad
aa3147 No.14591905
>>14591613
There seems to be a severe disconnect in the industry even on our shores. In college (4 or 5 years ago) I took game design courses. Many of the students were as cringy as you'd expect but the staff taught surprisingly good lessons and took game design quite seriously. One of the exercises we did was just like you describe, you have to write a pitch for a game and it has to fit on one page. Another important lesson was that you have to eliminate even the ideas you like in order for your game to actually be good because feature creep is utter cancer. Wonder how many of those clowns I had to share a classroom with took it to heart.
4e9234 No.14591909
>>14591847
>both RPS and PCGamer banned them
This is literally true btw.
People writing for RPS and PCGamer have been explicitly forbidden from using the word "gameplay" unless they're quoting someone else.
Try searching their sites for "gameplay" and see.
aa3147 No.14591915
>>14591628
>It's as gameplay focused as you can get, and it bombed too despite media attention and press room way back, just because it got lost in the flood of other gamees releasing at the time
>Implying this only happens to indie games
Timing is everything. Secret of Mana 2 was never released here because it came out too late in the SNES cycle. Duke Nukem Forever was mediocre as fuck because it was in the oven too long.
0efc81 No.14591934
>>14591924
The guinea pig gets me every time.
0b3ec8 No.14591938
>>14591458
>He added that he was happy to work with unionized voice actors and was proud of the writing team he assembled to craft the game's various stories.
Does unionized voice actors mean the same 5 actors you see in every other game? also you'd think if he was an artiste, that he would write the stories himself.
67140d No.14591957
>>14591929
Pls anon Mexico waifu no longer exists, now we only have the chupacabra.
0dd0b9 No.14591961
>>14591938
>Emphasizing that they're unionized
>There's been a recent push by the indie circlejerk for unionized game developers
HMMMMM
0efc81 No.14591966
>>14591961
Am I the only one who finds it shameful that white collar niggers like VAs and game developers are trying to unionize, something which was invented by coal miners so they wouldn't be worked to death by their bosses?
e43725 No.14591972
>>14591966
They also loathe the term "redneck" while doing this without even a bit of self awareness.
0b3ec8 No.14591974
>>14591961
don't devs in AAA studios have it pretty hard? would it be a bad thing for unions?
d788c4 No.14591975
>>14591924
>>14591873
You're less than 40% them genetically.
47f4ff No.14591979
>>14591628
Aztez is pretty good but it really need more content for what they're charging. Multiplayer of any kind would be cool. Favorite weapon was the club, really damn meaty.
0efc81 No.14591983
>>14591974
High workload and shitty coworkers while sitting in a air conditioned office in San Fran are not the same as risking your life every single day for a pittance.
a4bbee No.14591988
>>14591909
>People writing for RPS and PCGamer have been explicitly forbidden from using the word "gameplay" unless they're quoting someone else.
i need source of that bullshit now, anon-kun
>>14591929
anon, thats a trap
>>14591966
BUT ANON! DEVELOPERS AND VA'S ARE BEING WORKED TO DEATH BY THE PUBLISHERS!
c302db No.14591990
>>14591864
Yeah that is how it is in most industries.
Everybody knows the advertisers pay for the magazines to exist.
That is accepted in most cases but its about being professional at the same time.
Im struggling to put in to words what that means but shilling your friends game is the opposite of professional because the industry loses out in every way.
You dont get any money coming in for shilling a friends game and there's only so much column space, so every time they shill their friends game, another game that actually deserved more exposure on its own merits will be missing out.
c302db No.14591993
>>14591974
>don't devs in AAA studios have it pretty hard?
No
>would it be a bad thing for unions?
Yes
e43725 No.14591996
>>14591974
Look at where these developers are located. Unionizing them would just replace on shackle with another, assuming the people who want them to unionize aren't already leveraging them with local politics.
4e4275 No.14591999
>where the water tastes like wine
The name of your "game" alone tells me that it's a pretentious hipster garbage and is putting me away before i've ever saw a second of the "gameplay".
0efc81 No.14592006
>>14591999
Trips of truth. Any title with more than 3 words, MAYBE 4, is most likely shit. Same goes for band names.
23e356 No.14592008
>>14591480
fuck that place, why even go to 5 Guys, I guess if he supported Quinn he would, when there's In N' Out, the god tier of fast food burgers.
6572e4 No.14592040
>>14591568
Why would someone do this?
911415 No.14592043
>he has made $0 from the game so far.
>That doesn't mean the game has sold zero copies, but instead that Nordhagen hasn't seen any money after paying all of his contractors and collaborations.
<OY VEY GOYIM THINK OF THE PROFITS
>"At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard. It scares me,"
<HOW COULD THE GAME FAIL WHEN IT EVEN HAD CELEBRITIES
b3ac14 No.14592045
The best thing about really shitty "games" is watching the videos slagging them off. They often have many magnitudes more views than people who bought the "game". I JUST love the idea of some cuck searching for his "game" in jewtube or jewgle and having to see that.
6572e4 No.14592058
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14591670
Probably a reference to Big Rock Candy Mountain.
c302db No.14592071
>>14592045
Got a link to a good one?
I did a jewtube search for reviews but it was mostly sycophants.
6572e4 No.14592073
>>14591458
>At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard. It scares me,"
Now is not the time for fear. That comes later.
b3ac14 No.14592095
>>14592071
No, not yet, but I'm hoping they're coming soon following the trend of other SJW games like Revolution 60, Sunset, Lawbreakers, Battleborn and Dawn of War 3.
59d3c9 No.14592101
>>14592095
poor DoW3. I hope DoW4 is like DoW1 or maybe DoW1 mixed with TW:WH2
c302db No.14592114
>>14592101
Huh? Im completely out of the loop on the DOW shit?
I know DOW3 is a bad game that killed the franchise but I didnt hear anything SJW associated with it?
56ea77 No.14592127
>>14591873
>>14591924
>that feel when the best we'd get if a triple A or even double A Dev picked up such an idea is a shitty "look at how peaceful the Aztecs were before the already mixed conquistadors showed up."
>they'll just make it about trying to fight da ebul whitey
>shoehorn nigs in as a "we got yo back l, fellow colored person" bullshit
>won't note human sacrifice sacrifice of culture beyond the main character saying, " I'm still skeptical of the God's influence" in a single cutscene and forgetting it completely later
>will gloss over the fact the Aztecs held dominion over vast swathes of land through constant warfare and essentially fucked with the smaller tribes on a daily basis in all areas of their lives from politics and forced infighting to tribute giving
>won't bother to note the religion's almost nihilist approach of evil already winning, the Aztecs merely delaying the inevitable
>won't bother to look at how they waged war or that their warfare so that victory became less about taking land and more about successfully bringing home live sacrifices that were only moments ago trying to kill you with their full intent
I really don't understand why SJWs or lefties in general can't just make a game that embraces this shit. It wouldn't be hard, and even if some of them would try to claim it's "only trying to use another culture for financial gain" the others shouldnt have any trouble browbeating it with "stop being racist" or some shit.
Granted I'd prefer to see a non leftist make a central American game set around those periods so we can avoid, "war is bad, let's all get along" because they can't handle anything deeper than "War is hell".
4e9234 No.14592132
>>14591988
Found it.
http://archive.is/c94AO
http://archive.is/K8lxR
A bunch more people searched the sites too and confirmed they only use "gameplay" when quoting.
03bd98 No.14592135
>>14591822
>Is the same guy doing the soundtrack?
Yes
640c34 No.14592142
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I'm not seeing any gameplay at all in this pile of shit.
They actually expected this to sell?
21fc9e No.14592182
>>14592142
They desperately want to make movies or write books, but are too shit to make it in either of those industries (or rather don't have connections to the right jews), so they try with games. Of course neither books nor movies have any gameplay, so their attempts lack that also
06456e No.14592201
>>14591628
>webm
I see the problem. He didn't have anime girls. You can sell pretty much anything on steam if it's cute, and you will fail if your game looks like typical indieshit.
21fc9e No.14592207
>>14592201
How could he ever face his hipster friends if he sold his game solely on sex appeal?
4f2b5b No.14592220
>>14592201
and yet KBOΠvania did just fine without them
85003e No.14592230
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
I actually like the way it looks. I don't know if it has gameplay or is just a visual novel but I like the art style/music.
a6458c No.14592288
>>14591458
>At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard. It scares me," he wrote.
Now where have we seen this before
af5ab1 No.14592294
>>14591879
See those black (very dark brown) eyes? That's your clue. At best she's part-white.
a4bbee No.14592299
>>14592132
RPS and PCgamer death when?
bde322 No.14592327
>>14591458
>He honestly doesn't know why the game flopped.
>Shill journalists try to hype up this game.
>Scream from the rooftops it was made by the dev that is responsible for Gone Home.
>GONE. HOME.
d788c4 No.14592332
>>14592327
Komodo Dragons are friendly though. They love licking people.
bde322 No.14592336
>>14592332
They ain't the problem the guy in the parachute is from San Francisco he is the problem. They are all about to get AIDS.
4f2b5b No.14592368
>>14592332
it's called tasting your food before you eat it
bde322 No.14592380
>>14592368
So thats AIDS and a tummy upset.
1dc7c6 No.14592445
>>14591974
>don't devs in AAA studios have it pretty hard? would it be a bad thing for unions?
I've read the charter that the so called games union is pushing and it seems very much a communist agenda to seize the means of production and less about protecting workers. The mandatory shares would be so detrimental to controlling a business, no one would ever adopt it. I'm very doubtful the union movement will take off because of stupid shit like that. None of their demands are flexible.
>>14591458
I'll tell you why this game failed, it has a totally shithouse name that can't be found easily, its hard to say and it resonates as pure pretentiousness. Even based on that, looking at the actual game itself, the art is unremarkable, its all static, most indie games at the minimum can product animated artwork (see Amello for example). The developer bringing in help was also a huge mistake because what I can see is that it didn't help at all in any way possible, its just more mouths to feed.
Also you'd probably find that a large sum of his funds were paid in bribes, I know other indie developers that did this in order to get press coverage and then they get all butthurt in the same way- exact same types of articles, stating how "Unfair" it all is. Bullshit, you tried to bribe someone, the bribe failed, you got scammed by someone you thought was a friend, probably next time instead of bribing people keep the money and instead adopt a self marketing strategy, its easy to even get 1,000 people to want to play your game, if your business model is sustainable that can easily translate into profit if you're smart on pricing and aren't a big enough shit heel to at the minimum provide a demo.
Guys an idiot, but then what do you expect for someone who's record contains Bioshock 2 and Gone Homo.
db9373 No.14592651
>Make Mexican game
>Mexicans with any money live in murrica pretending to be white
d788c4 No.14592675
>>14592368
It was a joke about how they have highly toxic saliva.
d93eb6 No.14592682
>>14591600
>have your fuckbuddies at the press shill the shit out of it taking advantage of the success of horror games like Amnesia to falsely market it as one
They pulled the same "survival horor" marketing trick for Tacoma.
a669df No.14592707
The game looks decent, people just don't pay for it because they want to save all their shekels
>>14592651
>implying mexicans aren't at least quarter white spaniard
That doesn't even matter anyways
224202 No.14592717
>>14591458
>make investment to produce something
>nobody is interested
>your product fails
>you go bankrupt
ISN'T THIS HOW CAPITALISM IS SUPPOSED TO WORK? THAT'S RHETORICAL YOU NITWIT. YOU DO NOT DESERVE FINANCIAL SUCCESS JUST BECAUSE YOU WENT THROUGH THE EFFORT OF PRODUCING SOMETHING. YOU CAN EITHER PRODUCE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WANT OR TRY TO FIND A WAY TO SCAM PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR MONEY, YOU PRESUMABLY CHOSE TO BE HONORABLE AND MAKE A MARKETABLE PRODUCT, SO YOU CANNOT COMPLAIN THAT THE MARKET DID NOT FIND VALUE IN WHAT YOU PRODUCED.
d788c4 No.14592722
>>14592717
Anon they're communists.
d788c4 No.14592724
>>14592707
Most mexicans are something like 40% amerind, 30% spanish and 30% negro.
b3ac14 No.14592725
>>14592182
By seeing games as plan B or C they already show no respect for the medium. That itself makes them far more likely to fail even if you ignore the absent gameplay issue.
>>14592230
Most people think it looks shit. That's the reality. I think we can safely say a lot of the art is obejctifly low quality as evidenced by a screenshot like this. However that doesn't mean some people like you won't still like it. The problem is that audience is miniscule.
>>14592445
It looks shit and has a shit name.
d788c4 No.14592732
>>14592725
>It looks shit and has a shit name.
I just wish there was a game where I could walk across the old timey US as a skeleton. So few games have world maps nowadays.
d788c4 No.14592734
>>14592732
*a nonshit game where
83a570 No.14592754
>>14591600
I actually fell for the Gone Homo survival horror shilling back when it came out.
I fell for it hard enough to pirate it, hook up my pc to the tv and play through it with two buddies on the couch over beers.
They kept complaining it's some gay feminist propaganda bullshit but I was like "Don't worry guys, the clues are all there, something REALLY CRAZY AND SPOOKY IS BOUND TO HAPPEN SOON!"
It never did.
I still get pissed off thinking of that afternoon.
dc1fc9 No.14592771
>>14592754
I would love if someone took the idea of Gone Home (guy gets back to family home to find it deserted and has to look for clues) but without the gay, or possibly with the ability to dick your sister straight.
a1043f No.14592794
>>14591475
>>14591480
I never understood faggots like you? Do you hate fun?
You're retarded fuckbois.
98833e No.14592796
>>14591966
Unions in general are always bad
37ffa3 No.14592811
>>14592142
I watched ten seconds of that and hate it already. They couldn't even be bothered to do a proper motion-comic so it's garbage non-animation. They couldn't even set the narration over it so the narrator tells you what happens on a separate screen before the 1fps "animation" shows it!
This is so fucking incompetent that I don't understand how the guy got $140k to pay all those contractors to begin with.
a1043f No.14592817
>>14591615
cahokia was abandoned years before foreign explorers.
Like the Mayans.
e43725 No.14592830
>>14592142
The Best Gamers streamed more well made shit made in a week as a joke.
748040 No.14592858
>>14591929
MesoAmericans were perfectly happy and respectable being noble, if not the most noble, of savages until Spain came along and polluted their bloodline with filthy trailer-park tier genetics and turned them all into beaners.
Spaniards ruin everything.
d788c4 No.14592872
>>14592858
>respectable
>noble
That's a weird way of saying psychotic human sacrificers.
67140d No.14592888
f3f0e8 No.14592899
>>14592872
Give me one good reason human sacrifice is bad.
ff8c41 No.14592901
>attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers
literally never even heard of the game
c0f592 No.14592923
>>14592899
Its forbidden by UN.
f3f0e8 No.14592927
>>14592923
I said a good reason.
4f2b5b No.14592930
>>14592899
it doesn't work
f4cb27 No.14592931
>>14591562
It honestly wouldn't even matter if they were the majority, since they don't buy games.
>>14591961
If indie game devs unionized, it would end up exactly like the voice actor situation: everyone with a brain would hire non-union, because they cost less, do better work, and don't come with any political baggage.
A union could be a boon to everyone because, if like the actors' guild they have rules that stifle their members' freedom and forbid them from working on any non-union projects, it would become a kind of quarantine zone.
f3f0e8 No.14592934
4f2b5b No.14592953
>>14592934
So what's the point?
b94067 No.14592959
>>14592930
And? Have you never done anything just because it's fun?
Just look at this and tell me it's not fun
e43725 No.14592966
>>14592959
Having to cut open a spic sounds like the opposite of fun to me.
d788c4 No.14592972
>>14592899
Spics everyone.
4f2b5b No.14592980
>>14592959
looks like a lot of work for nothing to me you can't even eat the meat afterwards
72e414 No.14592981
>>14592959
>>14592899
Now that's how you build a high trust society.
e43725 No.14592994
>>14592981
I want to drag my freshly shaved ballsack across Tomoko's face.
d788c4 No.14593033
>>14592981
To be fair, it was actually a sign of high trust. The sacrifices were warriors who lost the war games the various city states used to determine territories. Rather than kill men in the field, they'd cut off their ribbons, like flag football, which marked you as 'out' of the battle. It's totally retarded.
f3f0e8 No.14593042
>>14592953
Does it need a point?
db9373 No.14593056
>>14593033
>The sacrifices were warriors who lost the war games
So one Charlie brown or leroy could fuck everyone. Brilliant.
99cdc4 No.14593059
>>14592994
I cry that no girl like this can exist. Any genuinely nerdy one out there has 50 orbiters and fucks the entire football team of Chads and Tyrones.
95df1a No.14593078
>>14593056
It's a good incentive to only have the best of the best on your team.
43394d No.14593079
>>14592981
Seems rather barbaric. Why not just sacrifice animals like every other society on the planet?
80d8af No.14593105
>>14593079
Whats the purpose of "sacrifice" if you dont sacrifice anything valuable anyway?
0b3ec8 No.14593114
>>14593079
animals are not much of a sacrifice since you're going to be killing them to begin with
>>14593059
>Any genuinely nerdy one
clearly you're mistaking fake nerd culture for an actual loser female
f7904f No.14593115
>>14592981
I want to hug tomoko and then lovingly fuck the tism out of her
0105a4 No.14593117
>>14591751
half chan just barely got kawata shojou made and that was just a visual novel on a prebuilt engine or something. There was const fighting over drawings and writing. Now add in actual game developement that takes longer and has far more moving parts and boy do you get problems. Just go and see how far /co/ got on its group projects and apply that to video games because that's about how far /v/ would get too.
>>14592142
>That isn't how poker works. Maybe do a little research if you're going to use it to open your game.
youtube comments are sometimes worth reading
>>14592725
The whole game just looks unfinished.
>>14593079
What did Mr. Derby ever do to you?
53090c No.14593123
Isn't this game where parts of it were written by game journalists like Leigh Alexander?
72e414 No.14593135
>>14593033
That's not the same as a high trust society, my man. I kinda doubt the average aztec girl would be safe wondering about the city alone. And that's what I'm saying: Pointless violence like this not only undermines social capital, if you need the threat of human sacrifice to make your society work you're fucked. Compare this shit to the ancient greek tradition of sports. Also, would you want to be killed on an altar like a faggot or in the dust of the battlefield like a real man?
>>14593059
The fuck are you talking about? Stacy occasionally mentioning the big bang theory is not the same as a girl that's as awkward and autistic about her hobby as you are. Most of the nerd girls in my high school had their hymens intact.
eafe45 No.14593142
>>14591670
To me it says the main character is a destitute who is too poor for water, just like its SJW dev.
eafe45 No.14593152
>>14591666
>I'd much rather Valve not meddle in what goes onto the store
Even if that is somehow true now, the fact is Steam was better when it was more curated and less clusterfuck.
0105a4 No.14593164
>>14593152
Should there be a new game of the day? Week? Month? Because there are too many at this point. Of course it would eventually be corrupted with people buying fighting over the position.
4f2b5b No.14593177
>>14593105
So you're not too dissapointed when nothing happens later also you can eat the meat afterwards without any short/longterm side effects
a4bbee No.14593238
>>14592872
there were going for a one god system, but it got fucked when the spaniards showed up
>>14592981
it was a good way to go to indian heaven, but not all tribes saw it that way.
e4ab13 No.14593313
>>14593105
>livestock
>not valuable
That's food, dude, one of the most valuable resources there is, especially during those times. Sacrificing animals is saying, "we respect you so much, we're giving away our own sustenance to you".
aa7ebe No.14593322
>>14591600
>have your fuckbuddies at the press shill the shit out of it taking advantage of the success of horror games like Amnesia to falsely market it as one
The ONLY reasons why Gone Home sold any copies was this combined with the fact that Steam hadn't implemented the refund system yet, they got extremely fucking lucky with that. They deluded themselves into thinking that it sold because people liked it and not because of a bullshit bait and switch, then they made Tacoma and this game and they both bombed incredibly hard because everyone caught on to their bullshit by now. I really hope they wasted all their Gone Homo bucks on these two projects, they need to just fucking die already.
7509ec No.14593348
>>14592858
So… conquistador thread?
I'll bring churros if you don't put bacon in them, you crazy mister marshales.
435ad1 No.14593359
>>14593177
I don't think there is any kind of animal sacrifice ever practiced where you are allowed to eat the animal after.
7509ec No.14593360
>>14593033
You wonder why the other tribes made an alliance with the spaniards against you.
f9095d No.14593367
Looks like shit, I don't mean just visually.
71b499 No.14593384
>>14593359
Yeah, It does kind of defy the point of sacrifice if you just eat it up afterwards.
e975f7 No.14593385
>>14592899
It polluted underground water supply in few Central America indian cities.
>>14593359
Any animal remains were usually burned afterwards.
83f51d No.14593386
>>14593348
What moron would ruin perfectly good churros with bacon?
bee788 No.14593388
>>14591628
>Webm
Lost interest after the tenth strike. Endless combos do not equal a good game.
4f2b5b No.14593395
>>14593359
and i just find it hard to believe that they would just throw away meat like that at a time when owning cattle or even a single bovine was sign of affluency and wealth and could be traded for at least one wife,possibly two if the would be father in law was interested in doing so and was keen at bargaining
7509ec No.14593397
748040 No.14593404
>>14593348
>I'll bring churros if you don't put bacon in them
>Spanish
>Doesn't like Bacon
Not surprising, considering Spain's intimate history with the Muslim religion.
a1043f No.14593410
>>14593395
In greek myth there was a god punished for tricking the gods.
He taught greeks to keep the good meat for themselves, while sacrificing skin, hoofs, horns, fat and gristle and other organs, which were disguised as prime meat.
The gods were fooled, and they punished the god that helped mankind.
37ffa3 No.14593414
>>14593359
A lot of animal sacrifices were split among the priests/druids who performed them. They symbolically offered it to their god but in real terms the animal was gift for the temple.
a1043f No.14593416
c28fbc No.14593421
>>14593404
Fucking S*anish. Reminder the name "California" literally means "Land of Calafia" which comes from "Caliph" or the name of a Muslim religious leader. Spaniards still hadn't gotten over Islam by the 16th century
7509ec No.14593425
>>14593404
Spain is home of the best porcine products ever made. Bacon is shit.
a1043f No.14593427
>>14593425
Europeans are so salty about american superiority.
You sound like protestants bitching about Catholics.
48d0fb No.14593436
>>14593322
>I really hope they wasted all their Gone Homo bucks on these two projects
They're probably publicly funded through some art program in Canada though
7509ec No.14593443
>>14593427
What is bacon compared to jamon, chorizo, morcillas and thousands of superior cold meats?
You are right about protestants being shit.
7e7b70 No.14593460
>>14591974
If they unionized now they might as well just scout the Pajeet that'll replace them and save everyone the trouble.
89a05d No.14593467
This article is hilarious. They are flabbergasted is did poorly because they thought this game had a huge presence in the media. This is literally my first hearing about it.
3ce055 No.14593512
At least he has a game.
I've posted my situation before. I wanted to make games since 2003 (13 years old), so I went to college in 2008. Graduated a 2-year programming course in 2012. Learned nothing, made no connections.
Still tinkering with projects and such even today, but no games, no demos. I know a lot of shit and can probably blow a good chunk of these faggots out. I have the pieces but I can't solve the puzzle.
c95741 No.14593513
>It won awards!
Does anyone here give a shit about awards? Do any of you know anybody who cares about awards? Any kind of awards.
In this day and age, every fucking book has an award. Every movie has an award. There are games or movies out there with over 100 "awards."
Even ignoring how most of us view awards as some jewish carrot-on-a-stick technique, or money laundering, or liberal autofellatio, or gay; What is the value of an award even supposed to be if absolutely everything has some kind of award under its belt? It's like the fucking participation trophies for playing sports. If everyone gets one, what is the value in any of it? A lump of cheap plastic, acting as a paperweight? I think it even devalues real trophies and awards, because the only way to know some trophy cabinet or award list is actually any good, is to waste hours of your time picking through each individual accolade to check its legitimacy. 1 trophy or 100 trophies, who can even care anymore?
There has to be a better way to quickly prove how someone/something is good or worthwhile, with how valueless and jewish awards/trophies have become.
84df5b No.14593534
>>14591458
>all that money and not a single sale
That's an achievement honestly
6572e4 No.14593543
>>14593348
The only churros I like are Viper churros.
99cdc4 No.14593547
>>14593135
The naivete of this one. Never seen one of those quiet nerd girls have you? They lust after Chad cock even more than those fake Stacies and they'd laugh at you if you mentioned how much in common you have with them, they despise their male counterparts as pathetic omega virgins. That's how just women are, after all those "wholesome" Christian schoolgirls fuck atheist and Satanist Chads all the time. Similarly it's laughable to believe you gotta be smarter, richer and more educated than the woman you're trying to court, women who work six figure jobs who can speak multiple languages and have (actual) college degrees don't want men more successful than them like those redpill faggots claim, they fuck barely literate HS dropout Chads.
e43725 No.14593552
>>14593534
He said he actually has sold copies, but just not enough to turn a profit. Assuming the figure he put forth is actually accurate, he has to sell at least 10 thousand full price copies to even begin breaking even.
84df5b No.14593563
>>14593552
Yeah, I didn't read it right. I checked the shit on steam spy though.
140k for a little over 10k purchases
also what's social justice about this? I can't be fucked to go read up on the lore about wine so if anyone knows anything I'd appreciate the knowledge.
b018d1 No.14593573
>>14592060
>tfw someone saved your video
ea039f No.14593581
>>14593513
I disregard awards because they've been politicized. Nothing is awarded over merit, but over correct politics.
b018d1 No.14593584
>>14593404
>tfw family is from the north of spain.
Feels good to be untainted.
12761f No.14593585
72e414 No.14593589
>>14593547
You missed the point of my post, genius. The point is a real nerdy girls are too autistic to get chad cock. Also probably not that good looking.
>Similarly it's laughable to believe you gotta be smarter, richer and more educated than the woman you're trying to court
Women generally try to marry upwards, that's just a fact. Marrying downwards is very unlikely for a woman.
>they fuck barely literate HS dropout Chads
Yeah, but is she gonna bear his children, anon? Riding the dick carousel and serious relationships are two different things. That's why many university educated women have trouble getting married. There's not enough men in universities anymore.
89a05d No.14593612
>>14593513
If you look at movies, getting a slew of critical claim is basically a guarantee the movies will make no fucking money.
e348d5 No.14593626
>>14591692
>someone should have sent him that infographic showing that the average game on steam sells only 2,000 copies.
That's a meaningless statistic and you are an retard for taking the thread you've got that from seriously.
99cdc4 No.14593632
Rockstar have always been lefties, just in a South Park esque way - underneath a heavy layer of "lol everyone is dumb"
99cdc4 No.14593645
>>14593632
Wrong fucking thread fucking faggot I am
>>14593589
There's no such thing as being "too autistic" for a woman, it only applies to men. Any problem that's life crippling for a man garners sympathy in women. Actual female nerds are even more desired than fake ones cause fake Stacies will just eventually move onto something else while the real ones will have dozens of foolish orbiters to use.
820f11 No.14593652
>>14591525
>It's astounding that a game that had no appeal to anyone who plays games somehow failed to sell
>Just look at all this great stuff that has nothing to do with gameplay
>How could this happen?
Delicious. The kikes can poz the vidya industry but they can't poz the vidya audience enough for garbage like this to succeed.
123d5b No.14593656
>>14591988
You're saying that as if it doesn't entice the deal for some people.
72e414 No.14593677
>>14593645
Nah, you've just never met really autistic women it seems. I knew several girls who got constantly rejected in high school and couldn't get laid(one of them became a lesbian).
>Any problem that's life crippling for a man garners sympathy in women.
As a general trend that's probably true, but there are women who get no sympathy at all because the way they act is annoying/really autistic. Also, the sympathy thing works like the man hitting on a women thing. If it's a good looking guy it's flattering, if it's an ugly guy it's creepy. Same with women. The really ugly/weird girl crying is awkward, not cute.
>dozens of foolish orbiters to use
If that happened in your school it seems like an exception. The weird girls were bullied rather harshly by everyone in my school(including even low level males). Anyway, female losers exist.
dbdac5 No.14593679
>>14591525
It astounds me that people like this can muster together any money, let alone be trusted to spend it when they think "Kotaku says it's good!" is an actual endorsement that will gain them success and fame. It's not like it's some big secret that awards are largely a crock of shit and that your customers aren't going to bat an eye when they hear you won a dozen awards from organizations they've never heard of before.
Dumb fucks like this guy can undergo the highly difficult and challenging process of organizing a team to put together a game from scraps of ideas and concept art, but at no point did he take the time to understand that the press is fucking useless and out of touch.. Likely because he's a clueless hipster just like journos are. It's like they have reverse autism where they can't pick out specific details and necessary bits of information to better understand things. All they make is broad, mindless bullshit, peppered with feel-good buzzwords and aesthetics that make sure to cement it as "indie"… but they can't understand that the final product is something that is meant to be sold, consumed, and enjoyed by people, not to simply be lauded and praised and celebrated for it's artistic qualities and just how many hipster boxes it ticks. Adulation from hipster faggots doesn't pay the bills, as this dumb shit is learning.
56858b No.14593691
>>14592771
Had a stupid idea for a game that would be a deconstruction or parody of walking simulator genre (would hopefully be a mod made with Source so it could be free)
>Be in a wheelchair
>Have to go back to your mothers house, she possibly died or something
>Mother happens to be a hoarder
>House is filled with useless junk, piles of it making mazelike walls through the rooms, so your biggest issue is simply trying to navigate it all, especially when you can't just "step" over it.
>Find lost items of potential value within the piles to be sold for money
>Have to find batteries/activate power supply so you can use a chairlift to go upstairs
>Would also contain playable small "retro" like video games just for extra replay value if you can find the cartridges
0af4a0 No.14593742
>>14591545
So try explaining the success of Tumblrtale and Starjew Valley with all their socjus bullshit and "diversity".
0105a4 No.14593749
>>14593742
Star dew valley is just Harvest Moon. They saw a good premise/series that hasn't had a game in a while and copied it. It's a game for people that don't know what emulators are.
0af4a0 No.14593762
>>14591879
Clearly 'White'. Unless Sovthren Evropeans don't count as White to you.
30dc43 No.14593779
>At the end of the day it's astounding that a game that got this much attention from the press, that won awards, that had an all-star cast of writers and performers, that had a bizarre celebrity guest appearance(!) failed this hard.
<HOW CAN US CIRCLE JERKING OVER THIS AND FART HUFFING NOT ENSURE ITS SUCCESS???
It's almost like the real world doesn't conform to the rules of their hugbox.
c7df82 No.14593787
>>14591458
>Where the Water Tastes Like Wine
This reminds me of those metalcore bands from circa 2007-2012 with sentence long names
>It's a title, but there's an entire phrase in there for you to decipher. It's like deeeeep maaaan
dd4adb No.14593804
>>14593742
Undertale is not too bad. It has gameplay, a modicum of challenge, some decent writing (with trope-subversion and fourth-wall-breaking that's actually witty), and very good music. It's not walking simulator bullshit like Gone Homo. It's okay.
Of course, it's worlds away from the BEST GAEM EVAR!!!1! that its obsessive fans say it is.
6baf09 No.14593814
>>14593691
all jokes aside i'd play it especially the horror-themed Basement DLC
0af4a0 No.14593817
>>14593804
It's Kotaku's favorite game ever. Kotaku and the whole leftist gaming media sucked that game off 24/7. Is there actual gameplay? Isn't it you just walk around and talk to faggy furry monsters about gay shit with stupid memes and there's virtually no challenge at all and if you actually kill something that game berates you for being an evil fascist with metasnark.
791ca9 No.14593820
>>14593804
>some decent writing
In a ocean of obnoxious, overbearing humour
dd4adb No.14593830
>>14593817
>Is there actual gameplay?
Yes. Even if you decide to be a peacenik, you have to survive a few rounds of combat before fulfilling the requirements to end the fight.
>and there's virtually no challenge at all
I recall Muffet and Mettaton Ex are pretty challenging.
0af4a0 No.14593835
>>14593830
So it's a gay tumblr walking sim with a bulle thell mini game shoehorned in and that makes everything okay? 10 milllion + best seller status?
c95741 No.14593840
>>14593742
Undertale was riding off of the absolutely massive wave of Homestuck since Toby was the best musician for Homestuck, and the author put Homestuck on indefinite hiatus for like 3 years to create the "ending"
Tons of worthless fandomite types were desperate for something to cling to, and Undertale fit a niche unfilled. The niche being video games, since they already had tons of FotM comics, cartoons, anime, movies, books, and so on. It was obviously going to have huge amounts of attention from unsavory types.
>>14593817
>Isn't it you just walk around and talk to faggy furry monsters about gay shit with stupid memes and there's virtually no challenge at all and if you actually kill something that game berates you for being an evil fascist with metasnark.
You can do all of those things, but you can also not do it. There is gameplay.
d5c170 No.14593847
>>14593830
Spoder fight can be skipped from the beginning if you eat some of her shit in front of her
00e062 No.14593870
>>14593847
doesn't that cost a shit ton of money though?
fd82ab No.14593874
>>14591458
>"you begin to see that maybe it wasn’t, financially speaking, worth it. I guess I will have to wait a bit longer to buy that Juicero."
He has zero clue how to use his money. Even a year later he hasn't got the memo that the fucking (((juicer))) he wants is a complete scam. People found out that you can literally squeeze the packets to make the jews without the machine. The company isn't even in business anymore because of the scam. How old is that article actually it cant be from this year. Is he that retarded?
3a6322 No.14593884
>>14593513
>Does anyone here give a shit about awards? Do any of you know anybody who cares about awards? Any kind of awards.
It is quite possible to make a game that sells 100,000 copies and not have any exposure on major sites or awards. You make something people want to play that is better than what has come before it. If you cannot achieve that, then don't even bother making the game.
3b0c96 No.14593896
>>14593874
I think that part was a joke anon
e3cc49 No.14593900
>>14591628
>>14591786
I have to second this notion. I get the underlying idea of "CUHRAYZEE" (honestly I'm glad those threads waned and died, at this point) and DMC sort of stuff, but after a good amount of similar styled games, it's no longer clear what's actually a hard to do combo and what's just well animated.
For webm's case, the animation wasn't particularly good either.
60469a No.14593903
>>14593874
>juicer
>packets
Where the fuck do PACKETS come into this? A juicer takes one thing: fruit. Or vegetables, if you're a goddamned degenerate. Then it juices the fruit.
At no point whatsoever should a packet enter into this equation.
5ebbe4 No.14593913
>>14593903
you forgot quantify jews in there
fd82ab No.14593931
>>14593896
I hope so, after reading that article about how he spent 4 years on this shit and even paid fucking Sting to be in it I don't even know. my autism doesn't let me read sarcasm online
>>14593903
Precious goy, we have prepacked all juiced the veggies and fruit already into neat packets for you to buy and not have to do dirty work. The machine merely squeezes the pre-made juice from them just like we sqeeze your wallet.
00e062 No.14593936
>>14593931
But if the juice comes pre juiced, what does the juicer do?
dd4adb No.14593940
>>14593936
It squeezes the bag.
LITERALLY JUST THAT.
3a6322 No.14593941
>>14593936
It squeezes the juice out of the packets.
3b0c96 No.14593943
>>14593936
it squeezes the packet. that's it.
also you can only control the machine with the smartphone app. and the machine has an RFID scanner to scan the packets of juice, you can't use third party juice packets.
e43725 No.14593944
>>14593936
It gives your personal information to a shell company founded by exGoogle employees who saw the guillotine being primed.
de8494 No.14593947
>>14591615
>tomahawks
>fun
You are like a small child.
262189 No.14593954
>>14593359
Old Testament sacrifices generally involved eating some of the meat. If I remember correctly, the Levites actually got most of their meals from the temple offerings.
>>14593677
>Tfw I used to know an awkward short girl
>She wasn't confident in her voice, so she had an annoying sort of quaver when she spoke
>Never put any effort into her appearance, always wore thick glasses and dollar store t-shirts
>Said t-shirts were unable to hide the fact that she had massive tits
>I'm not kidding, they were probably F or G cup
>Got the sense that she was into me but never asked her out
>She moved to Korea for college
>Occasionally see pictures of her online but it would be weird to reach out to her after all this time
Feels like shit, man.
e43725 No.14593966
>>14593954
>thick glasses
>moved to Korea
Something tells me you dodged a chastity cage sized bullet there.
181af7 No.14593973
>>14591615
Play Expeditions: Conquistador.
262189 No.14593975
>>14593966
Not thick-rimmed hipster glasses, thick lensed glasses. As in the kind you'd wear if you had shitty eyesight.
You've got me on Korea, though. Japan I'd understand if she was a closet weeaboo, but I fail to see the appeal of Korea to the West outside of K-dramas.
d788c4 No.14593977
>>14593973
>Play Expeditions: Conquistador.
Game is shit mechanically but I appreciate it allowing, even encouraging, ethnic cleansing.
de8494 No.14593989
>>14593949
t. 1/64th Cherokee LARPer. The strong natives accepted and assimilated European culture into their own while maintaining relative segregation. The weak ones kept rebelling for no apparent reason, while being constantly woo'd by settlers and voyageurs. You are the white man.
ba1974 No.14593993
>>14591847
Don't forget pushing to end the idea of needing to adapt to what a game wants from the player to be able to enjoy it.
56858b No.14594000
>>14593814
Thanks, never even thought of a basement level.
>>14593874
>>14593931
>>14593943
>Originally priced at $699 then went down to $400 (How much did the PS3 cost at launch again?)
>They put RFID tags on the bags so the machine could tell if they were expired, basically DRMing food, instead of just using a best before date. They also claim it was so the app could remind you to use the bags before they expire
>They could only ship the juice bags to 17 western states because the juice would expire in a week
>You can literally hand squeeze the bags instead of using the machine.
>They got a $120m in funding for this fucking device
>120 MILLION DOLLARS
de8494 No.14594027
>>14594006
Ah, so you're a Mestizo who LARPs as a pureblood Nahua?
236222 No.14594033
>>14594006
Total War games you imbecile.
262189 No.14594045
>>14594041
Someone should make a game about how many times you're using that fucking phrase
00e062 No.14594046
>>14594041
trying too hard.
3efb36 No.14594053
>>14591731
>skeleton
>hobo
Pick one and only one.
0d7cfa No.14594070
>>14594027
I’m gonna be a devil’s advocate, average mexicans are almost full blooded nahua native americans, They’d pass as some old last pure blooded usa tribe elder
6aa8c2 No.14594075
>>14591786
>I'm retarded and can't see context
I posted the webm orginally to showcase my point that even games that are all about their gameplay mechanics and deep systems bomb due to market oversaturation, and it's not just walking simulators with no gameplay. Showing the depth of the combat system was relevant. You can look up more info about it if you want: It's a 2d beat em up with light strategy elements: You have a strategy map oof the core of tthe Aztec empire, and go around quelling rebellions, conquering cities, and doing light (and I stress "light", the strategy side of it isn't deep at all) empire mangement stuff, and battles/conflicts bring you into the beat em up stages. Your goal is to ultimately be strong enough to beat back the Spanish when they show up.
As >>14591979 points out though, there's not a lot of conttent for the price. If you aren't into CURAYZEE/kamiya/platniumum games style combat really hard or the setting isn't something you are super into, you'd probably be better off waiting for a sale .
>>14591783
>Any book you would recommend on the topic?
I have a lot, actually: though I haven't read most of them yet, but this is the list of books i've either been recommended by people who I know know their shit, or I thought looked cool. Also worth noting that this also includes the Andes and what's now the US, not just Mesoamerican cultures. https://pastebin.com/jnpB4W7a
In particular, of those, Aztec Warfare: Imperial Expansion and Political Control (and Ross Hassig's other work), Aztec Thought and Culture, Stories in Red and Black are the ones that I see come up the most. There's also all the books made by either actual Aztecs, their direct descents in the first 1-2 generations after the conquest, and r by Contquistadors, which is where the bulk of our information about their daily life and facets of society, and their hstory coms from, but a ton of it has never been translated into english and i'm not up to date on what the best translations for the ones that do are.
FAMSI (the website) is a fantastic resource, though naviigating it and finding good info might be hard if you don't into the region already. I might regret suggesting this, but Askhistorians is a fantastic resource as well: It's part of plebbit, but I stand by that it's the one worthwhile part of the site: The only people who post there are either actual experts iin their fields, or are hyper-autists who might as well be, and posts without citations or without being super detailed get removed. As far as i've seen, it's surprisingly free of SJW bullshit too. There's a collection of informative posts from there I have here: https://pastebin.com/44LFw9Jv. I'd say reading through those will give you a pretty soliid foundation for mesoamerican history/culture, and from there you can then use FAMSI and consider checking out the books in the list.
>>14592127
>>14592899
>>14592872
>>14592899
>>14592959
>>14593029
>>14593033
>>14593360
>>14593079
There's a ton of incorrect info here, but I don't have the room to respond to it here, so here's a pastebiin correcting all the misinfo posted: https://pastebin.com/4Ruj1vWv
tl;dr though
>Aztecs didn';t conquer tribes because almost the entire region was actual city-states, kingdoms, and empires, there weren't really any tribes outside of way up in north mexico in deserts and way south by central america in jungles
>Aztecs didn't mess with the politics/governance of their tributaries/vassals, they left them alone do do whatever as long as they paid up
>They didn't only wage wars/battles for sacrifices/to get captives: They got captives when they could and aimed for it, such as doing it instead of killing downed/fleeing soldiers, but still fought wars and battles for real, primarily to conquer nations tthat had resources they could extract as tribute
>They only mass sacrificed those captives, not civilians, cvillian sacrifices were rare, as rare as it was in ancient old world civs. Most mesoamerican groups only sacrificed at those smaller scales.
>There were special wars meant to get captives though, which were insitutued by a dude who rewrote aztec religion to focus more on human sacrifice as a pretext for military expansionism. Prior to this, the Aztecs weren't that much more sacrifice prone then other related cultures
>>14593385
>It polluted underground water supply…
No, bodies were stored in temples or cremated, they weren't buried. Also the Aztecs were seriously amazing hydroengineers and had some of the most autistic, insane sanitary practices in the world. This is actually my favorite thing about the Aztecs, their core cities were all basically venice(s) ran by germophobes.
>>14593135
>I kinda doubt the..aztec girl would be safe wondering about the city alone
They had police forces and pretty strict court systems, so she probably would be. Adultery/rape was punishable by death
0345ce No.14594083
>>14594006
>>14594041
Alright, so my question is, are you a /leftypol/ or hasbara poster deploying the rather tired 'angry aggressive muh kill whitey minority' act to accomplish… I don't really know what, frankly, since it never did much good distracting anyone and never really disrupted or reinforced views either, or are you actually some poor degenerate spawn of converso Jew rapists exiled to the New World as the first wave of accidental Conquistadors and bloody-handed, hawk-nosed Asiatic misinterpreters of what the Viracochas maybe-possibly left to them, high on ethanol and shitposting? I'm leaning towards the former.
0d7cfa No.14594091
>>14594083
He’s just another angry native
de8494 No.14594096
>>14594070
Not the ones who go on about this native shit though. Every single Native American Nationalist/Separatist/Whofuckingcaresist I have ever seen or met has been white through and through. For fuck's sake, they're not even advocating this shit in their supposed homelands either: there's Aztecan faggots in fucking Canada.
236222 No.14594099
>>14594091
I think his anger should be going to Spaniards. If i were a an aztec native or whatever i'd be looking for Spaniard blood.
2174eb No.14594101
>>14594075
Thanks for the pastebin read, and sorry my info was so off. Still I forgot about their sanitation efforts being actually quite advanced compared to other parts of the world if I rememeber right.
0d7cfa No.14594106
>>14594096
Most native americans are just brainwashed into worshipping white people and ignoring their actual native american heritage, the nahuan native americans in usa and canada just speak up because american culture is naturally unhinged and they realize white people took their land and brainwashed them to hate their native american heritage and to worship white people, they’re pretty much pure blooded nahuans, Most usa and canadian tribe members like choctaw’s and hopi’s are actually white though I’ll agree with you on that
0d7cfa No.14594110
>>14594099
I’m sure other whites are the same white race as spaniards, it makes no difference to them
de8494 No.14594124
>>14594106
In what possible way have any natives been brainwashed to worship wypeepo?
056076 No.14594132
>>14594075
>effortposting
>both on topic and in a derail
>in a designated shitposting thread
T-t-t-thanks, I guess!
0d5564 No.14594152
>>14593359
abrahamics and greeks, ya dingus
254fdc No.14594165
>>14592230
even if it is the best story ever written with Migel Angelo and Mozart doing the art and music
without gameplay, you might as well just watch it on youtube, what's the diference?
d9e209 No.14594261
This is a MASSIVE series of bad decisions. The fuckups range from bad decisions to sheer gamedev incompetence.
>moves to literally THE most expensive city in the entire US and rents an apartment
>spends four years on it
>hires a "diverse" cast of niggers and journalists for ~$140,000
>takes a niche game and pollute it with his leftist views
>make an "art game" with the indie low poly art style
>the game looks fucking atrocious
>release a visual novel for PC and only test with controllers
>no one knows the controls or game's features
>really, no one knows what the game even is (Adventure? RPG? Visual Novel?)
>name is impossible to remember (I forgot it twice while documenting his fuckups)
>developer has no idea what he's doing
Alright, post game fuckups
>writes a post-tumor for his game
>can't help but mention privilege and diversity
>calls himself a AAA veteran
>A 75 isn’t terrible but it’s not what I wanted, obviously, nor do I feel like that number represents the actual quality of the game.
d788c4 No.14594271
>>14593384
That's actually the opposite of the truth. Brahmanic and Roman sacrifices functioned as barbecues. St. Paul actually had to write a bunch about how it was alright for a Christian to eat the sacrificial meat but not allowed to bring it to be sacrificed in the first place.
ed1eb6 No.14594272
>>14593359
Herodotus said that Egyptians ate the leftovers whenever they sacrificed some animal, don't remember exactly where but somewhere in book 3 of his Histories.
0d7cfa No.14594281
>>14594124
They’ve been brainwashed to believe that white people are great pure beings that can’t do anything wrong and that they strive to be like white people
ed1eb6 No.14594324
>>14593359
>>14594272
My mistake, the part I had in mind is book 2 passage 40
"But in regard to the disemboweling and burning of the victims, there is a different way for each sacrifice. I shall now, however, speak of that goddess whom they consider the greatest, and in whose honor they keep highest festival. After praying in the foregoing way, they take the whole stomach out of the flayed bull, leaving the entrails and the fat in the carcass, and cut off the legs, the end of the loin, the shoulders, and the neck. Having done this, they fill what remains of the carcass with pure bread, honey, raisins, figs, frankincense, myrrh, and other kinds of incense, and then burn it, pouring a lot of oil on it. They fast before the sacrifice, and while it is burning, they all make lamentation; and when their lamentation is over, they set out a meal of what is left of the victim. "
85003e No.14594349
>>14594165
Whatever the appeal of VNs are.
d9e209 No.14594352
>>14594281
I really doubt that, the only race currently in the habit of doing that is kikes and they have absolutely no reason to convince natives to worship whites. Of course, like all of our issues, this could have been solved by driving minorities to extinction
85003e No.14594368
>>14594352
>Drive minorities to extinction
>All that's left is fucking Chinks
0af4a0 No.14594369
>>14594272
Herodutus also said they wuz black like nigguz.
00e062 No.14594373
>>14594349
Shallow anime tittes, which I don't think migel angelo would include.
21058a No.14594392
>>14591628
Pointless endless combo's, slomo after every 3rd hit, locked animation attacks, ugly to look at, barely any fucking content for its price. Over saturation had nothing to do with this game failing.
8105ec No.14594430
>>14592332
is the joke that they got the worst type of flesh eating bacteria known to man living in their mouths?
ed1eb6 No.14594441
>>14594369
Herodotus says a lot of things, like Pajeets have black semen and Ethiopians have a bottomless fried chicken buffet table, that's part of the charm of Herodotus tbh
7db561 No.14594455
>>14591709
I take great pleasure in the fact that most leftists will die off in the coming fire they started. For the rest there's the ovens.
>>14594099
Big bad for Mestizos and Amerindians is now the Anglo menace who conquered from one seaboard to another. Aztec fags still have absolutely zero excuse to be mad since they never owned shit North of the border, but everyone hates Whitey anyway. I kind of want to make a game to counter this garbage. You are now instigating Manifest Destiny as an American patriot.
Bet I'd make more money on half the budget than this knob.
16a285 No.14594546
>>14594281
What the fuck are you even talking about. Natives don't worship whites, they are constantly crying about "muh reparashuns" "muh truth and reconciliation" for shit like residential schools (which is admittedly bad, but nowhere near as bad as the shit natives did to white victims) and being almost deservedly exterminated. In Canada they all basically live on government welfare and so have absolutely zero initiative to be productive members of society, so they usually just act like typical hooligans and/or niggers to get some fun in their meaningless lives. The ones that aren't pieces of shit usually become so depressed from their pointless existence where everyone you know acts like a nigger and destroys everything good in your society for fun that they kill themselves, which is actually a HUGE problem in native communities. Natives come in at #2 most suicides by race in North America, just behind whites. The only natives that escape the trap of degeneracy are ones that don't live in reserves and try to make something of themselves instead of just relying on the government.
12d825 No.14594897
>>14591628
That looks like an average f2p browser flash game
9d5e85 No.14595111
>I guess I will have to wait a bit longer to buy that Juicero.
What a fucking faggot holy shit, even if it was the best game in the world I wouldn't give him a fucking cent on the grounds it would toward him pissing away money on a shitty, overpriced fucking Juicer that you can't even juice your own fruits/vegetables with.
When when finally dies off from his aids ridden asshole the world will be a better place.
6aa8c2 No.14595117
>>14594455
>Aztec fags still have absolutely zero excuse to be mad since they never owned shit North of the border,
Actually, they didn't even control most of North Mexico (not that they'd want to: It's just desert and nomads), let alone stuff north of the border, pic related That being said, there was trade going on to north mexico/the southwest US native groups: We've found macaw feathers, rubber balls, cacao beans, and ball courts at southwest US sites from trade/cultural interchange with Mesoamerican civilizations. Turquoise was usually what the Mesoamericans were getting in exchange.
(This image also does a good job showing what I mentioned in >>14594075, how much of the region was actual political states and not tribes: Only the shit marked with "Territorio" was tribes, everything else was city-states, unions, kingdoms, or empires. As you can see, only the far north shit, far south shit, and stuff in the pockets between the remaining Maya city-states (and almost all of the Yucatan there would have been full city-states and kingdoms before the maya collapse) are tribes.)
Anyways my understanding is that most spics in mexico don't know shit about their own history thanks to the goverment pushing a "pan-aztec" thing where the mexican goverment basically just talks about the Aztecs and a pan-aztec native identitity for the nation, to where even the Maya don't realize ttheir ancestors were the one who built the cities in the Yucatan because they only get taught about tthe Aztecs, and plenty of people who have Purepecha or Mixtec etc ancestry, which were enemies of the Aztecs, think they are aztec desedcents.
Revisionism is helluva drug.
>>14594546
>(which is admittedly bad, but nowhere near as bad as the shit natives did to white victims)
I am admittedly not that informed about native history north of Mexico, but weren't most of the bad shiit they did over the course of normal wars, battles and raids between colonizers and natives? vs then sttuff like the trail of tears, residential schools, not honor land treaties that happened after that point after the colionizers had already basically won.
a27108 No.14595185
>>14593870
If you buy it at the beginning it's cheap, but if you want to buy it right before her fight it's 9999 units of dosh. So to skip a fight you have to lug a minor healing item around for almost the entire game.
>>14593936
It's not quite a bag of juice, it's a bag of pulp shit you squeeze the juice out of. Apparently this "cold pressed" juice has some health benefits so hipsters are all about it, like extra extra slow drip coffee.
a5487d No.14595265
It's like if the creator of Beanie Babies blew his entire fortune creating Turdie Tots or something
dc1fc9 No.14595268
>>14595111
Isn't that the overpriced turd that always needs to stay online, has a spy camera installed and you need to buy special bags to put in?
a5487d No.14595292
>>14595111
>>14595268
At least there's no mystery how he blew 140k on a walking simulator.
dc1fc9 No.14595565
>>14595519
>posting thundercuck
e30248 No.14595665
>>14595565
>being this mad
He bought a juicero, everyone point at him and laugh
ff8c41 No.14595678
>>14595519
>blundercuck still salty about Trump
still has immense anal pain about brexit I bet
dc1fc9 No.14595682
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14595665
>not posting the superior and informed mockery of the soy dispensers
>thinks I'm laughing at him because I am trying to defend the Juicero
>not because he posted a leftist cuck
d7d8b2 No.14595693
>>14595519
>>14595565
>limeys
>electronic limeys
>a cuckold limey bernie supporter
>so cucked that he supports politicians in another country that cucked his in 1776 and still cucks them today
4f2b5b No.14595711
>>14595678
NEED MO MONEY FROM THEM EU PRO-GRAMS TO MELT COINS ON MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL
I DO SCIENCES ME
5dcc86 No.14595718
>>14595711
thats a flattering photo of him, he doesn't even look human anymore.
153e15 No.14595729
>>14593117
That file name makes no sense, because the games is free to fucking play.
dc1fc9 No.14595730
>>14595718
>think it's a photoshop with his head and averagebong.jpeg shopped on top
>it's real
He looks like the Gollum after the Ring fully corrupted him.
05337c No.14595981
>>14592899
It isn't. Just ask this guy.
325267 No.14596131
>>14594075
>anon delivers a massive, autistic booklist
Much appreciated. Now to find a good place to start.
de8121 No.14596411
>>14592008
In N' Out is overrated and mediocre. Five Guys isn't that great, but it's better than In N' Out.
6aa8c2 No.14596731
>>14596131
As I said in the post, Aztec Warfare: Imperial Expansion and Political Control (and Ross Hassig's other work), Aztec Thought and Culture, and Stories in Red and Black are the ones I see reccomended the most, so I would start with those.
Reading through the Askhistorians posts first would be even better, as those are more aimed towards people not already familiar with the history of the region while still being insanely detailed and well written, and would give a good foundation to where when you read any of the books, you aren't lost
>>14595111
I assumed that was him joking around, not even the most stuck up their own ass SJW is THAT dumb.
325267 No.14596882
>>14596731
Yeah, I'm probably gonna go for Aztec warfare and The Ancient Central Andes by Quilter.
ed4393 No.14597917
>>14592858
>posting carlos mencia
6aa8c2 No.14600150
>>14596882
>>14596731
>>14596131
>>14594075
Oh, 1491: new revelations of the americas before Columbus comes up as much as the other notable ones, too.
I just started reading it tonight: It's more a general look at the Americas and people/historians/archelogists's perceptions of it have changed over time, and how the modern image of the native Americas' in popular culture hasn't caught up with the research doone over the past 2 decades then speffically about Mesoamerica, but it';s still good.
A few things i've read so far strike me as somewhat iffy, but no book is perfect and assuming you read all the askhistorians posts I linked and read other books, the iffy stuff should stand out/you should be in a good place to evaluate them/know where to get clarification.