bb6660 No.14589821
So I finally got this game but I’ve been having a lot of troubles with it. Usually in the Souls series I would go for a build that mostly focused on Strength with just enough stamina to get by and play through as a glass canon. That isn’t working so well for me on this one. Anyone have any decent builds or tips for soloing the game?
Also, Bloodborne Thread
e83b2b No.14589831
invest in beasthood and eat your enemies
727664 No.14589846
>>14589821
I can tell you that if you decide to go arcane then you have to go all in or forget it.
2ab7ad No.14589976
>>14589821
Everyone's a glass cannon in this game. For build options, the easy modes are STR or SKL, it depends on how good your draw is. If you suck at gun staggers, go STR and just tear shit up but if you want to milk those viscerals, become a Not!dexfag.
Then there's the Ludwig's Holy Blade, which sets the difficulty to "game journo". A Quality weapon with B scaling in both STR and SKL but 11/10 assholes use it.
I'll leave you with a couple of suggestions, one STR and one SKL (the later being the one I'm running right now). 15 ARC is for Beast Roar, btw.
when are they adding re-spec?
62a4e3 No.14590019
This game flows really fucking well last souls game that really flowed on the same wave length for me was Demon souls.
4749eb No.14590104
>hardlocked 30 fps
It's literally unplayable.
a17611 No.14590132
>tfw no Doll waifu
Truly suffering.
ee86f5 No.14590183
>>14590019
>kemonogari friends
Tickles my funny bone tbh
>>14589821
Bloodborne is a fast-paced game, and its fundamentally different to souls game since it rewards aggressiveness by having mechanics that reinforces it (Rallying mechanic, Trick weapon modes, Viscerals, etc). >>14589976 Anon here is golden if you want ez mode in BB, though Ludwig's Holy Blade is boring to me atleast since there are other, more flashier weapons that are more fun to use.
By the way, Lv. 120 is the 'meta' level for PvP, so if you don't mind overleveling then you can go all the way to level 160+ and beyond. I like that Bloodborne is still fucking hard even when you're overleveled up the ass.
>tips
If you want to get fast blood echoes early on, go to Hypogean Gaol and farm the kidnappers / pigs there. When you reach atleast level 40-50, stop the grind and go kill amygdala. After killing amygdala, make the Ailing Loran chalice dungeon, equip the Heir rune + Blood Rapture rune and just farm the beasthumans at the first layer by visceraling every single one of them. The blood rapture rune is for getting health since you'll be using blood bullets to conserve Quicksilver bullets, each viscerals heals up to 300 HP depending on the rune intensity (base is 200 HP, +1 is 250 HP, and +2 is 300 HP). I always grind there to reach the desired level of my characters there
a439e2 No.14590431
>>14590104
>letting graphics get in the way of enjoying yourself
>>14590132
Here's your doll waifu, have fun.
fea0c7 No.14590454
>>14590431
Speaking of dolls
I bought this about a week ago
dd6b78 No.14590515
>>14590454
Did it arrive? How is it? I am looking at DH168 models
c2d130 No.14590810
>>14590454
Reported for cp
a8b9cf No.14590825
>>14589821
All you need to know are soft/hard stat caps and you should be good
Vit=30/50
End=40/40 (Shitter pitfall, you can easily beat the game without ever levelling this stat up, only 2-3 weapons really need a bit extra than base to do optimal)
Str=25/50
Skl=25/50
Blt=25/50 (Nigh unlimited for tools and Pure Blt weapons)
Arc=25/50 (Nigh unlimited for tools and Pure Arc weapons)
Some final tips
>If you want to stop at a given fight club meta, 43 is twink, 98 is 4chan and 120 is reddit. plebbit has more players but halfchan has generally better players/diverse builds
>Return to areas you have been to early in the game. NPC's change/appear and doors open/close
>DLC is worth it, adds 3 top tier areas, double the amount of weapons in the game and 4 superb bosses (then one sideboss that is just kind of a failure in execution)
>One of the secret areas is accessed by keeping hard left in Forbidden Woods
>One of the secret areas is accessed by jumping through a broken railing above a bell
>Don't use Ludwigs Holy Blade or either of the saws. They are absolute overpraised shitter trash and are possibly the least interesting 3 weapons in the game.
>Armour generally doesn't matter as long as you are wearing or if you want to max out a single elemental resistance vs a boss
>Eat all umbilical cords you find
>DONT wake up. At any point.
Now leave and finish the game without any more spoilers
>>14590104
>I'm a true gaymer
>I care about fps more than gameplay
dc6663 No.14590834
>>14590454
>>14590431
>tfw no money to buy that shit
>tfw even if I had the cash the family would disown me for my degeneracy
f78992 No.14590848
>>14590834
>living with your family
>allowing your family to have any contact with you
the fuck is wrong with you?
dc6663 No.14590852
>>14590848
>the fuck is wrong with you?
no autismbux to maintain my NEETness
db0c28 No.14590857
>>14590848
I though I was the only one who hated his family like that
dc6663 No.14590873
>>14590857
I don't really hate them.
But depending on them sometimes sucks because you exchange responsibility for lack of freedom and power over your life.
f78992 No.14590874
>>14590857
i hate everybody's family like that.
2ab7ad No.14591608
Pardon the borderline blogpost but got some Insight of my own recently.
I solo the whole game but I do a lot of co-op, help people going through the levels, get all the shinies, kill everything etc. To those unaware, this game was free on March and it brought a shitload of people (it's as active as the vanilla days) who for the most part fit the bill of are just playing the game because it was free (well, free for good goys). An influx of absolute mouth breathers, to say the least. It's not even the matter of getting killed quickly but the complete lack of perception and even plain common sense like failing to notice the Talk prompt on NPCs and sometimes paying the price for that stupidity or not seeing a item right under their noses.
Maybe I'm finally getting fed up with this game (making a pure SKL build because From and Sony are fags and won't patch respec and I'm too autistic to leave it half done) but a thing I've realized is that I'm a helicopter parent co-operator (play cautiously and tend to prioritize securing shortcuts) and maybe I don't really do co-op but just solo the game with a monkey on my back.
I'll finish this faggy rant with a question which goes for all Souls players as well - as a host, how do you prefer co-operators to act, do you prefer if they take the lead or just want them to follow and be there to deal with whatever shit happens? And as a co-operator, do you take the reins or just go with the flow?
4cd8d6 No.14591707
>>14591608
When I help others I tend to follow the host and only lead when I know what's up ahead is dangerous to them and could get them killed which leads to me getting a lower reward, I don't like coddling them and I'm only there to help with the difficult parts.
910e8f No.14591808
>>14591608
This maybe long, so sorry and bear with me.
when I host, I make the rules, only kill aggroed monsters, don't just run in, I am host I most likely have a plan.
now some character language, when it is obvious I am lost and have no clue where to go I will look at the co-op person and the shrug emote, I think it is obvious language that idk what the fuck I need to do. I do appreciate when a co-op partner uses the hey emote to point something out, but not take the reigns. Like a houseparty, don't want a guess to just take over and run things, but also it is good for a guest to point some important things out, "hey we have a spill" "I changed the trash bag for ya, it got full" things like that
When I go to another's world, I follow them semi closely, and I fight aggro'ed monster, I try to aggro as few monsters as I can, and keep them off the host, less penalty if I die vs. if they die. I also give a decent amount of space when the host is talking to an npc, I get bored sometimes and practice moves on luls, so I don't want to accidently hit an npc. Also when I see the host missed a secret or hidden area, I try to signal to them to follow me or where to look, the are good emotes for this or community used body language, but I give up if the host show that they don't care, idk this maybe their Xth playthroigh and they don't need/want those items in the area.
I have not played BB since it was free, so idk if the free-noobs understand the community language or not, but that's been my experience with every From game.
910e8f No.14591820
>>14591707
same, I'll follow closely enough that I am helpful yet outta the way. but also near enough that when I hesitate because they are going to a dangerous spot, if they are bot oblivious they can see me, and will respond to that hesitation. But I will let the host fuck up if they insist, no loss for me if they die, I still keep my souls/blood.
2d00f2 No.14591825
>>14591608
I mostly summon for bosses if I feel like wanting jolly cooperation, but for times when I summon just for shits and giggles to have someone play the area with me, I usually charge ahead and wait for the summon to catch up when there is an area that I know has a shit ton of enemies. As the summon, once again it is mostly for bosses, but I try to protect the host at all costs by being slightly ahead of them and taking care of the bigger threats whether that is an invader or larger enemies/large groups of enemies. When I do invade, I follow the host a little bit and taunt them into fighting mobs. This usually entails hitting them enough times that they get upset (you can see this by them getting sloppy) and leading them into weak enemies so they have to take care of not only a powerful player foe, but shitty little fodder that I throw at them. I treat hosts as mvps that I will fall on my own sword if they need me to. or they will fall on mine, depending on the color of my phantom
eac400 No.14591874
>>14589821
If you want to go full STR get the Ludwig greatsword or the Whirligig Saw, then try to get 40 STR, 30 VIT and 25 END.
Now, if you want to have fun breaking the game you'll need to grind the chalice dungeons a little, in there you'll get some gems that increase elemental and arcane damage, slap those into the glorious executioner's wheel/church pick/saw spear/ kos parasite and have fun.
bb6660 No.14592921
>>14589976
>>14590825
I appreciate the tips and builds, I just realized going pure strength doesn’t make the game as enjoyable as it’s a lot faster than DaS and sitting there holding heavy attack for one shots isn’t terribly fun. This one plays a lot closer to a DMC or Ninja Gaiden than DaS so I was looking for a build to compliment that.
d7639a No.14592940
>>14590104
While I agree, it's still an amazing game and tbh for 30 FPS it's pretty damn responsive and doesn't drop below. But yeah 60 FPS for this game would be great.
4cd8d6 No.14592973
>>14592940
>it's pretty damn responsive and doesn't drop below
I've had it drop on me in certain situations like when facing darkbeast Paarl
> But yeah 60 FPS for this game would be great
It would have probably been possible if BB didn't need to come out so early in the ps4's cycle, Nioh looks as good or worse than BB and can run at 60.
2ab7ad No.14593077
>>14591707
Likewise, my overbearingness is also rooted in selfishness. Even if I don't need that medal or that vermin, I see the session as a investment of my time and I don't want it to be for naught (though I'm not immune to dying in some really stupid ways every now and then).
>>14591808
>character language
I try to pay attention at that, sometimes it's possible to tell if people are new or not depending on how they move around but if the host looks like he's got a plan, yeah, I'll play second potato no problem.
Then there's assholes who want other people to beat the game for them which makes me think why the hell do they even bother with these games.
46b127 No.14593130
>>14589821
>Anyone have any decent builds or tips for soloing the game?
Get the
WHEEL
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a8b9cf No.14593241
>>14592921
Antifilthposter here, Str is viable but often is complemented best by a combo. To reveal a little as possible, some usual 'meta' paths (most people go 50/25 for dmgstats). Ironically, a true Quality build is horrible in BB outside of having Steak Dinner or Clawing away
Learnertier
>Pure STR (Tricked Axe, Tricked Kirky, Beast Cutter, Boom Hammer)
>Pure SKL (Pimpcane, Blades, Church Pick, Saif)
Intermediate Tier
>STR/BLT (Bloodletter, Cannons, Gat)
>SKL/BLT (Weebedge, Reiter, Bowblade, Pistols)
>STR/ARC (Tonitrus, Trifecta of shitter weapons)
Hard tier
>ARC/STR (First DLC boss, Wheel, Converted Pizza)
Ascended Kin tier
>Pure ARC (Tools only, maybe tentacles)
If you want a faster dodgedodge build, I'd recommend Beasthunter Saif, located halfway through the first area of the DLC. Great learner weapon and is the only weapon in the game with a free dash on the first R1, as well as jumping back and forth for free with L1's. Skl oriented though, so you might want to build as such.
>>14591608
nigga yous gotta start twink invading. There is nothing more enjoyable than:
>playing as Guy Fieri blocking the doors to Grand Cathedral as false messengers only to jump out and send them and their 2 cooperators the fuck down to flavourtown with a Hamlet gem pizzacutter
>waiting on the top of the Cainhurst ladder as Pyramid Head with a oneshot whistle and a frenzy L2 for the unsuspecting indecisive shitter
>Standing above the oil pond in Forbidden Woods with a flamesprayer/Boom Hammer waiting to send the unsuspecting shitter back to the lamp
>equipping the Hunter Rune in general
>>14593077
If a bitch is being a bitch, throw a Pungent Blood Cocktail at them watch them fight. Also calm it with the edge Maria, she is for bullying intensely
4cecd6 No.14593531
>>14590454
I'm scared to fap to this in case it looks at me
727664 No.14593553
>>14590454
Does she come in a smaller cup size?
ac9414 No.14593560
>>14591608
Unless coordinating with friends for some casual nonsense, I don't really summon for these games, ever. I solo more or less religiously even on follow-on playthroughs. Occasionally, I'll put on the blueberry covenant if that's an option and I suspect twinkers or are going to dick me over with my incomplete build and half-competence while running the early or middle part of the game; I don't need help for PvE, but if an invader is going to come in to fuck me over and have the whole level on his side (except when using the extremely limited and in Souls 3 now-nerfed Seeds) I might as well even the odds slightly by having an extra body on autosummon, and only for this odd-evening purpose.
If I were to actively summon, though, I'd want the cooperator to follow enough of my lead not to split off completely, while having enough initiative to trade out who's engaging at the very front fluidly. I suppose I'd prefer if they brought big fuckoff weapons that can staggefuck bosses or poles that can reach weakpoints, unless they're good and prefer quicker ones, in which case I'm happy to have a competent active pursuer against invaders. I try to do the same likewise. Though I might go at it a bit more aggressively and start outpacing the host, because they are dingalings and will die to something stupid or to attrition if I don't do some heavy lifting. I sometimes feel very stupid and ashamed when I eat a hit or two because of a boss chaotically trading aggro at a time I didn't expect in Souls games, backswinging in a pivot or throwing out a get-off-me move. I feel less so when the same thing happens to hosts ten times as often and with them dying outright rather than just eating shit.
Frankly, that garbage quality of a lot of the Souls playerbase- of carried incompetents and malcontent exploiters who can hack it in PvE and PvP purely through being laggy Chinese shits with FotM top tier weapons- makes me miss the things that made it easy to ruin them for even the less than PvP focused. White phantom Mound Maker invasions making things FUN for them in the boss room, pre-nerf Spear of the Church where even a light armor or spellcastery build could manmode through anything short of a triple or quadruple STR spank and could still potentially take them all down if you could avoid attrition and throw up lightning barriers to punish greed & protect the painters instead of being a free win if the host eats your adds before you can spawn and runs away to estus enough while getting a single hit in exchange for 90% of their HP each time, that sort of thing.
Because as much as one might hate when you get fucked over by it, the fact that a million far more deserving mouth-breathers are getting fucked over in turn and potentially by you personally makes it worth the price paid. I guess in Bloodborne, although I didn't really dabble too much with its online, you still have options for no-sell facefucking of this sort with cannon builds. Why on Earth did they keep nerfing invaders, on this point? I don't particularly like invaders or invading, but when I have done it, I have learned to sympathize for how ridiculously stacked the deck has gotten when going against players willing to pull a complete phantom squad out of their ass while using every shitter tool at their disposal. This total inability to balance is very irritating, because it's either the invader getting a varyingly free lunch against a loner unless they really fuck up and make bad trades constantly, or the invader is a free lunch even if he gets backup unless the stars align. Maybe reverse the dynamic for area defenders because of how they get to stream in. Maybe it was better in Demon's Souls, where they didn't bother to balance it at all; I never found the time to do an online run, so I wouldn't know and never personally will.
17607e No.14593587
Go with skill build because the weapons are pretty strong and skill directly affects your eviscerate damage.
Saw spear
Rakuyo
Blades of Mercy
There are very good strength weapons as well but having a heavy hitting eviscerate is a nice bonus
727664 No.14593636
>>14593560
>invaders
I can't say much about how I like or not the invasions in the Souls games since I haven't played them online yet but I really love how the pseudo invasions work in Nioh. It lets you "interact" with your fellow players in a fashion but allows you to avoid the faggotry. I do wish players could program their revenants a bit though.
eac400 No.14593892
>>14593130
Did someone say ==WHEEL== ?
727664 No.14593908
>>14593892
>>14593130
The only problem with the WHEEL is that it's gated behind an enderman cosplaying as Gwyn.
c82de1 No.14593934
>>14593908
He's more like a hole in a fence than a gate tbh
3c946b No.14593956
Reminder: Bully Lady Maria daily.
1ad88e No.14593985
I kind of liked how you could customize your clothing as you liked because/even though stats for them didn't matter. When I played through most of the game at my cousin's, I had the constable's top and bottom, the gold ardeo as helm, and the white church's surgical long gloves. It looked really edgy and cool. I think I used the cleaver and holy blade, plus the pistol.
I really liked how you'd get slick with blood over time, was really fucking metal. Also the doll was at qt.
727664 No.14594003
One thing that I've never seen is character creation guides for Bloodborne. That would be really handy.
>>14593985
>even though stats for them didn't matter
They are really good for resistances though
3c946b No.14594008
>>14594003
Not sure for visuals but I have this thing for arcane builds. It's been pretty useful but I've wanted to roll up a doll cosplay for ages.
ac9414 No.14594034
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>>14594019
>not bullying vilebloods
>not showing them your WHEEL AND DEAL
You need more radiance in your life, anon.
eac400 No.14594098
>>14594019
Maria is a filthy Vileblood, all vilebloods need to be erased, specifically Maria and Annalise.
Spill their guts with your wheel and burn their remains
2ab7ad No.14594105
>>14594003
Never thought anyone would save that silly screencap. I claim no skill in that work, data miners dumped the NPC sliders. Channel is called Zullie the Witch; has two videos, one for vanilla and the other for the DLC.
4cd8d6 No.14594111
>>14594019
This. Lewd her instead.
727664 No.14594139
>>14594105
I'm going to have this a look right now.
2ab7ad No.14594193
>>14594139
Word of caution - you'll come to notice that From are as good with their character creator as the average player.
482d7a No.14594198
Got the game free and beat Ludwig one try. Friend called BS. All I have to thank are over powered blood gems, the holy blade, and DS3 for being similar.
db0c28 No.14594481
>>14594003
I was happy with what I achieved. I think the character creator isn't awful, specially compared to the rest of the series.
a8b9cf No.14596516
>>14594198
>LHB
Opinion:Discarded also checkem
4bfb49 No.14596632
I play this with a buddy on a weekly basis.
Right now I have Kirkhammer at +9 and Whirligig Saw at +7. I see the Saw gets S scaling in strength and I have 33 strength or so. Also everyone seems to rave about it but insofar it's felt really underwhelming.
I just killed Micolash so I have access to a blood rock but I don't know what to use it on. Things are starting to get pretty brutal. Ludwig and Gehrman are pushing my shit in (should I even bother with DLC before NG+?) and I think I have to farm and go back over some content I missed or something.
2ab7ad No.14596711
>>14596632
>(should I even bother with DLC before NG+?)
Why would you leave the DLC to NG+? That's just making things harder for you.
Since there's so many fans, have some more Maria. :^)
ab3b46 No.14596738
>>14596632
Do the DLC first. You'll get 2 Blood Rocks and a bunch of OP weapons.
eac400 No.14596831
>>14596632
One little secret to defeat Ludwig: Be supper aggressive, he can be staggered
easily specially with the pizza cutter, during his second phase use fire papers and just fuck his shit up
ee86f5 No.14596852
>>14596738
>2 Blood Rocks
Nani?!
>>14594008
Very nice cap, thanks anon.
2ab7ad No.14596897
>>14596852
1 in the vanilla game and 1 in the DLC. After killing the Wet Nurse you can buy them for 60 Insight a piece (messenger inventory carries over to NG+).
a8b9cf No.14597330
>>14596897
And the ones you get from FRC+Depth 5 chalices.
You have them, right anon?
92affd No.14597354
>>14594034
What an specific crossover
2ab7ad No.14598013
>>14597330
At this point I just cash in my Insight, especially when farming cursed gems. That bit alone takes long enough to get 180+ Insight.
ac9414 No.14604679
Just to try and revive the thread a bit with a lazy but wide-reaching question; what is your maximum comfy build? The one you keep on hand and inevitably gravitate back towards after dabbling. The one you've got a nicely settled character archetype around, perhaps. For me, I ended up settling on QUAL/ARC and the Holy Moonlight Sword, plus a pretty wide choice of sidearms. Mostly the Church Pick, though, because it's just an eminently practical design. Swapping between laser swording, long-range stabbing/hewing and having a few ranged options for striking bosses when they're doing some unapproachable move is a very nice sweet spot.
I'm sure someone will find the high level distasteful, and I was always inclined to believe it was, but as I'm offline solo at all times now- haven't had any reason to consider refreshing PS+ to try online- and originally added the extra 5 END, 10 VIT and 10 ARC for one extra swing and to be a little less made of glass for FRC, while hoping to avoid getting dicked over by monostat vitgougers/overlevelers/both by simply rising up to meet them, I don't feel too guilty. 120/5 felt a bit vulnerable with people still having 150+ in mind after DSII, and 100 was very skinflint. And unless they're explicitly planning to smack down people on NG, the ultra-skinflint 60-90 meta that cuck/vg/ adopted years and years ago- no idea if they kept it- always seemed like more trouble than it was worth if you weren't hypercompetent or hyperautistic.
727664 No.14604736
>>14604679
I've gone with a high skill or high arc build in the past. My very first build was a muddled high strength build with a smattering of the other offensive stats. I just gave up and restarted after I realized there was no respec.
ac9414 No.14604842
>>14604736
My first build after a Hunters' Axe+Tonitrus STR/mild ARC affair- barely really counts as a playthrough, more of a feet wetting preamble- was as I recall was a pure SKL build. Precursor to the church hunter you see there, used the Yharnam Hunter set as a base. Originally intended for the Reiterpallasch, then swapped to Church Pick when the DLC dropped. Reiter was neat, but I didn't really click with how best to use it then.
I did finish a SKL/BLT build intended for the Chikage/Reiter also, but deleted and remade it to fix the face and fiddle with the stats; that got left at level 60ish the second time around and needs to be gone back to, seems to be where projects in progress stall honestly. I liked the amount of damage the bloodkat could shit out, but the middling reach and poor stagger put me off a bit. I suppose HMB spoiled me in that regard, with hyper armor and crazy high regain.
Any screenshots or fashion to go with the builds, anon?
727664 No.14605456
>>14604842
>Any screenshots or fashion to go with the builds, anon?
Not very good ones I'm afraid but I've got a few.
I think the next time I do a run of BB I'll either do a quality build and wield one of the lesser used weapons or do a pure BT build. I'm curious about the beast claw but I'm not sure if it's even usable in a meaningful sense. It seems like it's turns you into even more of a glass cannon than you already are with the whole beasthood thing and all.
ac9414 No.14605471
>>14605456
From what I've seen of them, the Claws with beasthood melt anything you apply them to, as long as you don't die in the process. They just obliterate things by snowballing.
727664 No.14605478
>>14605471
Does it have amazing rally? That seems like the only thing that could offset the lowered defense. I would guess putting a lot of levels in vitality and endurance is required as well.
163388 No.14605550
if it has an invincibility button like the other games just press it whenever you think you're going to get hit
ac9414 No.14605642
>>14605478
The thing that offsets the lowered defense is that, assuming you aren't attacking in unsafe moments, you won't have to defend for very long, because they will explode into treats. I have no idea what the rally's like since I've never used them and the stat's listed nowhere.
I apologize for not commenting on the ayy. I was stunned and just sort of forgot to after I stopped giggling and started on the Beast Claws.
>>14605550
Bloodborne doesn't quite work like that, because while you may or may not get punished with double-damage frames in II or III for bad dodges, I don't remember, you definitely do in Bloodborne. The dodges are very fast and carry you relatively far, but enemies also like to carry themselves very far forward and the I-frames seem to be rather short. Shorter for lock-on dodges, longer for rolls, or maybe that's just the roll lowering your hitboxes talking.
If you try to abuse the agility badly, or dodge the wrong way, you tend to eat shit for it and worse than you would have if you'd been more conservative or just eaten the hit, which is a hard lesson I have yet to fully learn at times. Something something high risk, something something high reward.
3a6683 No.14605704
You can play as a Samurai.
56d9c2 No.14605708
>>14594198
Post video and also screenshot gems.
2d759c No.14605726
e384c0 No.14607911
>>14589821
Can we talk about Bosses? I mean the bad ones that is littered through the Chalice Dungeons
I'll start with the most 'vanilla' of the bad bosses in the Chalice Dungeons
Undead Giant
>boring and predictable moveset
>abnormally high resistance to elements, either you go full physical or go bust. It also has a high resistance to physical as well
>has a fucking kick that has almost no wind-up but deals the same damage as it's scythe.
>The last 10% of its health turns into the most tedious game of redlight-greenlight as it spams the spin attack non-stop.
>From must've thought the bossfight is so tedious because of how much resistance the fucking thing stacks that they added a zit that you could pop for 40% of its health.
>This bossfight is then 'recycled' twice with one of them having a cannon (that they will spam), and the other not having bowling balls chained to its back. You know, instead of having the one where it has a flaming scythe in an flammable arena where it was showed at the first demo?
<By the way, what the fuck are they supposed to be anyway? Are the some roided-up precursor to the Church Giants? but the Church Giants came from the Healing Church's experiments right?
I'm not going to talk about the joke boss fights, you know the ones where they just slap a mob with beefed-up health and call it a day.
>>14604679
Honestly, nothing beats a SKL/BLT build for me. Yeah, yeah the build originated from those filthy vilebloods but atleast there's some style in their weapons.
>>14605704
the chikage is not a katana ok??
Why are there many ignorant people claiming that the 'edgy weapon' is a katana?
Ugh
e384c0 No.14607929
oh fuck that was some bad grammar right there
I should get some sleep
2ab7ad No.14608096
>>14607911
>Undead Giant
Not to mention that if you happen to die to it, in subsequent attempts, he'll jump at you that split second you cross the fog and it's usually a OHKO that borders on the unavoidable frame trap if you're trying the area at the intended level of 20-30 or under.
As for the others, Buff Lightning Wolfman is 10/10 and honestly better than most bosses from the main game, the spiritual successor of Flamelurker.
Fire doggo and Firesword McEdge are a pain but I learned how to deal with 'em, courtesy of the defiled chalice. The giants are a fuckin' chore to kill as you've pointed out, mostly because the fuckers reek of input reading, either that or 9/10 times I pick the wrong time to press a button. Pyro Wolf is free. Elder and Madman are faggots. The Descendant takes the cake for boss who really grinds my gears, it's like fighting a 8 year old kid with a turbo pad; it's not like he's terribly difficult, just really really obnoxious, has some retarded shit like swords that magically phase through walls, won't calm his Pthumerian tits for 2 seconds all the while sounding like a retard dry humping "UH!UH!UH!UH!UH!" the furniture.
But let's talk about the REAL final boss of the dungeons, this fat piece of shit that I would bet good money was designed for the express purpose of pissing people off. I sincerely think they do it on purpose, design a enemy just to get under people's skins like how the Brain Sucker's animation takes an hour to play out. Not from BB but another perfect example would be the anemic manlets in DaS3's last DLC that can shove you around even if you're wearing a suit of armor that weighs more than 50 of them.
ac9414 No.14608645
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>>14607911
They are bad Pthumerian juju. A nonspecific and unelucidated kind, because Bloodborne had some peculiar changes mid-development and most likely suffered the same half-finished syndrome as every Souls game, but was pulled together far more gracefully than the others. Maybe they're constructs made to hold off the beasts, intruders, both? Since they're covered in candles and the Pthumerian descendants are pretty big, maybe they're the remains of saints gone rancid? Again, half-finished.
The sheer amount of cut content datamined suggests as much; in short, things might have at one point been more Renaissance than Enlightenment in aesthetic, demons would be more than the one-off Watchdog, the Chalices would've had a couple more undead enemies, various little and big things. And for once the plot would've been openly explained, and slightly different, per cut dialogue.
If we're going to talk chalice bosses, I'll just get them all in one and say this; I hate enemies that cheat on their hitboxes. No, you did not hit me with that empty space between your elbows on your get-off-me-slam, Bloodletting Beast. No, your blunt and slightly fiery neck does not do the same damage as your bite just because I mistimed the dodge through your body slightly. You don't get honest to god stretch armstrong limbs that you never quite figure the reach of just because From made your real limbs too short, Abhorrent Beast. Gamey, graphics-defying hitboxes due to laziness or in BLB's case maybe half-assed attempts to remove moveset exploitability are the absolute fucking worst, and I sincerely hope this meme dies in any further entries of this genre. From has to take the hint some time with people raving about 'hitbox porn' and conversely bitching about getting hit by things that didn't hit them.
The flame scythe giant DOES exist, by the way. He's just really inordinately rare for some reason.
>the chikage is not a katana ok??
Embrace the weeb already. It's a katana blade on a western-style sabre hilt. You can't escape this cardinal truth; it is the child of congress between in-universe weaboos and out-of-universe westaboos.
>>14608096
He doesn't always do the super hop, but he is a fucking asshole when he does it.
>mace fatties
HATE. I hate their no-startup frame buttslam. I hate that they do it immediately out of their hyper-fast dodgerolls. I hate that they barely actually bother to do their normal weapon attacks, but if they do it's generally either in a way that totally fucks them over by letting you blap them for a visceral or fucks you over because it was at just the right time to bean your head in.
They're not the worst Chalice enemy, though. That would be the Hemwick Witch. The ones that have 2-3000 odd HP. The ones that aggressively use their magic bolts and PBAOE explosions if you try to go for them. The ones that have hyper-aggressive scythe madmen, which are quicker and more aggressive than those outside the dungeon, are instantly resummoned all at once in an animation that she can for some reason throw bolts in the middle of no matter how quick you kill them, and worst of all, do not despawn their summons when killed as the boss does. The scythemen are squishy and easy to smash right in their dumb faces if just one of them filters to you, but you can't do that because you have to push through them, and they're cheating little pricks that swing through each other more egregiously than any enemy in the game, and do so with exceeding aggression. And because they don't despawn, and generally are aware of you if you're fighting the witch because you have to run past their spawnpoints- and they can detect you the instant they start getting summoned, it seems- with the only situation in which they're not is in those odd placements where none of them are properly, directly watching the Witch and approaches to her, allowing you to beat her head in without incident.
But to kill summoner or summon in any fashion that'll lead to to the end of the nonsense that isn't smashing her in this favorable spawn, you have to expose your back to one of the two most the time. And you can't just ignore them or run past the room they're in, because beside the shinies that might be in there (and usually they aren't, because From hates your guts) something else sufficiently HP spongey and corridor-blocking or Hunter NPC shaped might also be waiting around the corner, and then your ass is being eaten by scythmen while you try to deal with the new threat if you can't run far enough. You have to kill the summons in just the right way and time so that you can burn through the miniboss-level witch HP, or else do a hit-and-run attack that you'll have to repeat a few times, without getting spitroasted. Whoever designed the Chalice Hemwick Witches, and her flamespitter cousins, can go fuck a can of rusty nails bareback.
46b127 No.14608769
>>14608645
>He's just really inordinately rare for some reason.
It's always cool to see people finding rare glyphs that have cut content or otherwise unused assets in them.
In terms of rare enemies I'd only heard of the Primeval Demon-looking slug thing and the giant with the fiery blade, but there are more apparently. Pics related, you can find a room with three Wet Nurses, a neutral ghost that resembles a player (and can be killed) and some friendly hooded ghost that walks around the room.
46b127 No.14608775
This one didn't post for some reason.
185ae5 No.14608803
I have never played a Soul's tier game in my life and I never will ama.
7c3525 No.14608845
2ab7ad No.14608864
>>14608645
>No, you did not hit me with that empty space between your elbows on your get-off-me-slam, Bloodletting Beast.
I forgot about that asshole. Yeah, that shit with his elbows is insultingly blatant. We get salty and whine about how "no way that shit hit me" but that one is very clear that the hitbox far exceeds the limbs.
>Abhorrent Beast
In his defense, the fucker does get bigger as the fight goes.
>Bitches of Hemwick
I forgot about those which is silly of me because I put up with that shit somewhat recently. I think you need a extra ritual for them to appear. This last run, I suicide run the shinies or ran past them (was just speeding the dungeon for stuff), they're pretty stupid for reasons you pointed plus they're ALWAYS strategically placed in some spot up against a wall and between props making it so you'll end cornholed by 4 or 5 sickles if you try to kill them.
>>14608769
>three Wet Nurses
>Hunter ghost
I'll be licking Oedon's formless titties.
727664 No.14608876
>>14608645
>>14608096
The actual REAL final boss of the dungeons is 47 red spiders.
a9c6d9 No.14608915
It's amazing how this game makes you feel like you just conquered it before kicking your teeth in again.
Just got to the Nightmare of Mensis and I feel gangraped by the dickwolfs
727664 No.14608918
>>14608769
I love the Pilgrim. The game should have more neutral/friendly enemies.
ac9414 No.14608949
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>>14608769
Zullie the Witch and Moros Nyx produce good content, yeah. The former finds all the shit, Nyx produced videos on some things that Zullie didn't if I recall. I really am partial to the cut enemies more than anything; twin-headed Watchdog style gargoyle demons, shrine knight beasts, the flame-choked Pthumerian soldiers, the Great One Beast boss that looks like the Dragon God and the Forest Spirit from Princess Mononoke had some bastard wind-blade throwing spawn.
>>14608864
To illustrate my point further, this video. Timecodes don't work on embed, go to 35 seconds in. This is bullshit. It is incredibly clear what the attack motion is and where the primary, only severe damage hitbox should be; at the sweet spot end of the claw/fist he's sucker punching you with. The rest of his body surging forward would be a knockback or moderate damage box at most, because he'd just be butting you aside with unfocused blunt force, and no centrifugal leverage, no rock-and-hard place pinning, just an incidental bump, even if a bump by a werewolf the size of a house. Instead, essentially his entire body- maybe not his feet, but remember those empty elbow spaces, it's not out of the question- becomes a full damage hitbox while he does this jab.
I don't understand it, considering that in the base game there's enemies with pixel-perfect hitboxes that you can sail right under just by being a few stairs down from the enemy. It speaks to either laziness, a meta design ethic of 'the player shouldn't be able to exploit that move' that didn't care for the damage to verisimilitude caused, or a sheer lack of time to refine the Chalice boss hitboxes. I'm inclined to think it's the lattermost.
>In his defense, the fucker does get bigger as the fight goes.
Does he actually? I never noticed. Unless I'm crazy, his arms do still stretch. It's harder to notice if you're not looking for it and fighting solo because of the perspective, but on some of his attacks, the jabby finger punch in particular, Abhorrent Beast just stretches out; the model for his forearm gets longer so his hand can shoot out far enough to be threatening. I noticed it on that move even from the front, and confirmed it while co-opping if I recall. The rest of his attacks seem to have a degree of phantom range to them, further muddying the waters.
>>14608876
Spiders are bad, but at least bell-ringing women can't defend themselves effectively and the adds die with the summoner. And if you have enough raw damage from Korean gems, you'll two shot the little shits even on FRC, so the influx is more or less controllable even with two bellringers. Hemwick shits are something else if you actually have to fight through them. No contest. The only thing evening the two out is the fact that bell phantom enemies have the gall to psychically follow you across the entire stretch of fucking level in which their bell-ringer is able to render in, potentially a room or two away and totally out of sight. Bastards.
727664 No.14609016
>>14608949
>the adds die with the summoner.
Most of the time anyway.
2ab7ad No.14609050
>>14608949
>35 seconds in
You mean 45, the Blanka c.HP shit? He gets shoved by the forearm that's on the ground for support and still takes the full brunt of the attack. Yeah, it's pants-on-head retarded. I've been done in by that, mostly I'm not even in front of the arm that's planted on the ground, that's how stupid it gets.
Reminds me Ebrietas' Steamroller of the Cosmos, how you'll take less damage if you just let her run you over though that might be counter damage it still looks stupid that a tentacle tripping your leg does more damage than full blown head on collision.
>Does he actually?
I could swear he does every time he does a roar though it could just be his fur floating more wildly along with all the wind and lightning effects.
>adds die with the summoner
When they feel like it because fuck having rules n' shit.
In first runs through pre-set Loran dungeons, they're a goddamned nightmare but once you know where they are, you haul ass to the maidens from about 3 rooms and then it's a matter of taking a jab or two at them while dodging the spiders. It's still some serious bullshit that they can summon 3 enemies at the same time, in fact, projectile spam is a huge problem with this game's AI - Brain Suckers, ayyys, Chalice hunchbacks etc. They'll spam projectiles with no pause and Mortal Kombat tier animation where all they do is flick their fingers or some shit all the while getting YUGE pay offs - fireball is a homing OHKO, ayyy beams phase through columns and the Sucker's bind is a one way ticket to therapy.
0928a1 No.14609090
Grinding for echoes in the late game was so much more worth it and fun thanks to these piggies.
0f507b No.14609108
>>14609062
>being a gurofag
2d00f2 No.14609116
>>14609090
What is it with Miyazaki and shoving things up pigs' assholes?
ac9414 No.14609119
>>14609050
Yes and no, 35 was the knockdown setup for the bullshit, 45 was coincidentally the actual moment of bullshit. The steamroller sucks similarly; it doesn't distinguish between whether you're getting rundown by the center of her body or clipped by a limb. And that's shit. There should be an element of risk/reward to whether you try to dodge to get totally out of the way and risk counter damage or risk getting tripped by limbs for a bit more than chip damage by conservatively running, but your best option if you're anywhere but miles away should not be to just stand there and take it on the chin. It goes against the whole design ethic of the game.
>>14609090
>>14609116
>'dude you can't put maggots on the undead dragons, that's not elegant and melancholy n shiet'
t. hidetaka 'if there's swine, it's anal fisting time' miyazaki
2d00f2 No.14609150
>>14609119
>Miyazaki, you can't just reskin the Boletarian Knights and call them "silver" instead!
<heh, two late, kiddo.
2ab7ad No.14609161
>>14609119
>t. hidetaka 'if there's swine, it's loli vore time' miyazaki
Daily reminder that you'll never save her.
727664 No.14609208
>>14608949
This is why League confederates should always have a choir bell equipped at all times.
ac9414 No.14609229
>>14609150
>What do you mean I can't have a wyvern-dragon strafing a long bridge for the third time in my directorial career? This is an outrage!
>Well, it's fine. I'll just have two of them watch a castle and a very short bridge. And then I'll have a real quad-wing laser dragon on a really REALLY long bridge. And you have to punch your way through him. I am a genius.
>>14609161
Of course you can save her. Just never give her the broach and break her heart or naively send her to the church, and she'll stay locked up tight and safe in Gascoigne's fortified bolthole of a house instead of getting eaten and her ribbon stolen by her little shit neighbor pretending to be her 'sister.' Unresponsive and traumatized, but safe for the night, because I can't see anything getting in there. Except Patches, but he cheats by being a slinky arcane spider and gets into every house, maybe simultaneously, I don't remember. What she'll do when the night of the hunt is over is another question, but it seems like Yharnam's beast population thoroughly burnt itself out, especially thanks to our slaughtering a good half of it personally, so she isn't guaranteed or even likely werewolf chow.
Really, what irritates me most is that we didn't get the option to personally escort her to Oedon Chapel through the route of our choice (and hopefully not showing her Viola/Gascoigne's corpse in the process) with the option to be smart and kill everything ahead of time/tell her to wait or be really dumb like I imagine most shitters would and get her killed by doggos or crows, and then complain about it raucously. I want her to get an unambiguous good end. She already lost both her parents and the town. The least that can be done is to take her to a new bolthole where she isn't all alone, left to sift through the ashes.
a44de5 No.14610456
>>14609229
>Little shite neighbor pretending to be her sister.
What? Is that an actual thing?
ac9414 No.14610549
>>14610456
I'll have to try and find the video going in-depth again, but you know how if you look around Gascoignes' house, one of the two houses below hers has a peculiar, unique gargoyle design? Never shows up anywhere else, that mesh/texture. It's on the one opposite the door the brick troll is watching, as I recall.
The older sisters' dialogue is peculiarly focused on the ribbon the younger sister wears.
>"Oh, you haven't by chance… seen my little sister, have you? I told her to look after the house, but she's run off somewhere. She's still quite small, and wears a big white ribbon. Have you seen her out there anywhere?"
And when given the bloody ribbon,
>"Oh, how did this happen… Why would she ever go outside? At least… I'll have something to remember her by."
Or not,
>"Oh, okay then. But if you do see her, would you give me word? She's a small girl, with a big white ribbon. My dear little sister…"
Then, if you go up to the window later and talk to it, broken up respectively,
>"What a perfect ribbon, and now it's mine. I can't wait to try it on."
>"Oh, it's wonderful…"
You later find her smeared on the pavement, facing not away from the ladder but toward that unique door as I recall, and can retrieve the white ribbon off of her. People thought this must've been some mournful suicide, but they weren't paying attention. She was never one of Viola's daughters; she was a jealous neighbor girl who didn't like the little lass in the bastle house just up the way, with the blue-blood mother and the brute outsider father. But she liked her ribbon. And under the influence of the night, she stole away to take it, finding the door graciously unlocked; but Viola's daughter is gone, so she enlists you to find it while she makes herself at home.
And once she has the coveted ribbon? She tries to sneak back home with her prize. Her body is promptly crushed to paste by the scourge-addled brute just down the ladder, when she steps with just a bit too much vigor on the return trip and her heels click on the cobble. And then we take that miraculously still-clean ribbon back to tie onto some dirty messengers' head. It's a sad story with no good ends, unless you headcanon that the unresponsive door and lack of any little girl corpses must mean they both avoided peril. The wiki states that supposedly the red ribbon will automaticallyy show up on the pig, eventually, even if you withhold information, so who knows.
629c2b No.14612391
>>14593130
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>>14594008
>arcane build updated
>disregard physical stats
>get cane
Okay, I agree
>get saw spear
>fire paper
>beast blood
yeah if you're a degenerate
>flamesprayer not necessary
It's not, just use the hunter's torch, the actually better and more effective option for the entire first part of the game
>upgrading sawspear at all
>not dumping everything into torch
you poor fool
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBkTFC4sv_k
the rest I can't really argue with because it's really for people who don't understand being a space wizard. The only weapon you should be using is cane when you get desperate and need a melee option, but torch will pull through most times.
9e0912 No.14612670
Is it worth improving the scaling on the Rakuyo, or go for physical up instead?
a8b9cf No.14615989
Anybody got a nice name/ concept for a Shield and Reiter/Spear character. I'm gonna make one, but can't for the lord of me think of something non-faggy
>>14604679
I have one of every build, so I switch when I feel. atm I'm into STR/BLT because it's one of the few build that can reliably burst a shitter vial user down from 70% with a nice shot from the old churchie/letter L2
>150
Do you get any activity at all? Thats high, even by reddit standards.
>>14607911
Jamal is pretty bad by most standards, along with Loran Darkbeast, but personally I hate both the Pthu bosses. HMPH is bad in most scenarios; but borderline impossible if you can't stun/stagger him. Elder is just overtly drawn out fight.
Lorewise, I believe Jamal is the Pthumerian's version of fucking around with the old blood, to the point it made it into giant bodyguards. When humans found them years later, they did a similar process to make the Church Giants; using the notes/observations from the Pthus so they got the desired results faster.
>>14608918
If that's what you are looking for, any wandering BEPIS you find are also hostile to enemies. Not friendly per se; but if you let them chomp you, leave the area for a side area etc, them come back, they will have often cleared it out for you. There are even boss v boss fights with wandering bosses such as BSB.
>>14612670
Unless you are 99skl, you always wanna go for those Phys UPs (but even then)
Adept Thrust is optional, but very few attacks benefit from it, not as viable as something like Adept Blunt Boom Hammer, where every attack in the kit has gets the boost
c10a61 No.14616063
>>14590019
>This game flows really fucking well last souls game that really flowed on the same wave length for me was Demon souls.
DaS actually flows better than DeS, but I am not a fan of "hub worlds".
fe80a8 No.14616160
>>14615989
>shield & spear
Leonidas.
Get Beast Roar and yell "SPARTA" before knocking enemies off ledges.
I miss old memes.
a8b9cf No.14616197
>>14616160
Thanks dude, Reiter might look a bit weird, but Rifle Spear defo fits. But man, TIS takes me back…to a….simpler….time
f811b1 No.14616208
>>14616197
This new things aren't memes friend. They don't gestate and sit to grow meaning.
They're just fad normalfags latch on to and call a meme because they have none of their own.
8a4b47 No.14616219
How much of the game do i have left if i just killed rom the spider?
I poked around in the DLC but didn't really progress at all since i got my ass handed to me.
151bcd No.14616241
>>14616219
You’re about halfway done with the main storyline.
8a4b47 No.14616245
>>14616241
awesome, thanks
is the logarius wheel any good?
a8b9cf No.14616250
>>14616208
Exactly. What is the gorilla meant to convey? How can it be used to show emotion?
>When the eternal summer shines high, the line between internet and normalfag is blurred.
>>14616219
First of all, this post has everything you need to read about bosses, don't read any other post in case it spoils something for you.
Now, it depends how much of the optional stuff you have done. By purely mandatory bosses (glitchless) you are exactly halfway through (Number 4 of 7)
DLC is top tier, but meant for endgame. If you twink it, 30-40 is possible, but most leave it until about 90+ (especially since the first DLC boss is specifically designed to ruin twinks)
Chalices and their bosses are an acquired taste, because they are basically an entirely different game to BB; definitely more like Binding of Isaac than Soulsborne. They will just about add 30% more time to your playthrough if you just stick to the fixed ones. If you want the trophy, go for it and leave it be after.
Minor spoiler tips for a better experience
>Go back to all previous locations/NPCS
>Use all umbilical cords you find
>Whatever you do; do not; at ANY point in the game ever submit anything
>>14616245
Yes but it requires a niche build, definitely not for a first playthrough.
a8b9cf No.14616263
>>14616251
>Luddie first try
>Has Hamlet gems
>20 END
>More Skl than Str on LHB
>Is a Vilecuck
You are a skilled shitposter, adept, merciless… half-cut with lies, as the best shitposter are.
8a4b47 No.14616273
>>14616250
>Whatever you do; do not; at ANY point in the game ever submit anything
What did he mean by this?
>talk to all npcs
I already got two umbilical chords and i still need to gather the one from the boss and Arianna's. I read a walkthrough for it but that's as far as i'll have my hand held.
By the way the rifle spear is god tier.
a8b9cf No.14616286
>>14616273
First is a literal spoiler otherwise. Just take the hint and remember it where possible.
Second and third are advice.
You seem to be doing a SKL build. You might also like the Saif in the DLC if thats your build.
Final tip, END is a shitter trap; you can easily beat the game at base END
fe80a8 No.14616309
>>14616263
The fuck are "Hamlet" gems?
Are there gems you only get on the Hamlet?
I rushed that area and bum-raped the witches as hard as fast as I could because I hated the place.
It's not even particulary hard, it's just a fuck ton of enemies at once + dogs that doom you to take them extra sowly one by one with lures or sprint past them and toss coin: heads you pass, tails and something will hit and stagger you back into the horde.
>>14616219
When I was younger, Longcat was one of my favourite memes. Mainly because of all the Mythos surrounding with (Tacgnol and Catanarok and all that silly stuff).
Loads of OC around it, and I think it's a great example to showcase why today's memes are shit.
Longcat and company were made to be funny. To make you laugh.
Current memes are made to be "witty". To make you look smart.
The first kind is made by people mindfull of their comunities. They want to contribute, help and make others smile.
The second is made by edgy atheists "debate me" who are sooooo smart and witty, look at this ironic meta-meme I just made.
The epitome of this is that shitty "how many layers of irony are you" comic.
I get the gist of it, but it's one of my most hated "memes" because it fails so fucking hard at being anything at all. Milhouse was closer to being a wholesome meme than that.
>>14616273
Don't feel bad about reading the walktrought for the cords. I didn't and fucked up (lost Ariana's and Isofka's because I was playing blindly).
Still, don't sweat it. It gives you a reason to replay it (see new ending) and pick another build.
I tried hybridizing Arcane with a bit of Vit and Stam, but it was a mistake. The other anons are right, if you even pick up Arcane, go all the way in. Start deprived, pick Arcane and never level anything else.
8a4b47 No.14616329
>>14616286
I'm at level 77+ with already 40 skill and 30 bloodtinge.
I have 15 vit and 10 end.
It's sort of a pain to be two shot at best but it makes the game sort of fun.
Dumping some stats into str (now at 20) for the cannon+ bone ash combo.
Is it even possible to parry with the 2 handed spear, switch, bone ash and cannon fire? I'm guessing not.
fe80a8 No.14616343
>>14616329
Bone ash last for a bit, 60 seconds.
You can apply it before hand, parry with the spear, swtich and fire the cannon, yes.
I'm not sure though, haven't tried the cannon yet. I'm planning on trying a Doomhammer + Cannon Str+BT build.
a8b9cf No.14616383
>>14616309
>feigning stupidity
>Durrr Hamlet yuo meen Hemwick?
Fuck off; you would have had to farm the place twice minimum for those gems
>>14616329
Risky with the bloodtinge; the only thing that benefits is the shot of the weapon. There is a weapon in the DLC which perfectly fits a STR/BLT build, but it is very lategame so be wary. You might want to head to Cainhurst instead (i know you went there because I'm guessing you have Wheel Hunter badge from Alfred; so hopefully no spoilers). There, the Reiterpallasch and the Chikage would fit quite well.
Side note; level that VIT up; holy shit. Most standard builds go 40-50Vit, Base-10End, 50Main Damage Stat, 25 Secondary damage stat leaving you at ~BL100. I'm surprised you have got so far with such little health. If you level nothing but VIT now, you will have a pretty decent build done for the cuckchan meta (98), or drop the extra 22 points into SKL and VIT to 50 for the reddit meta (120)
For the combo, no you won't. Pretty sure two handing a weapon removes the BMA buff, so it would take too long. You might be able to direct fire a std cannon with decent timing though but the stat invest is a bit too high. Evelynn/Piercing Rifle and the Blunderbuss are the two best SKL/BLT firearms
5e92b0 No.14616415
is Tontilus still the best weapon?
fe80a8 No.14616435
>>14616383
>farm the place twice
That's the point, I didn't. I just say people talking about "Hamlet" gems on this thread and wondered what gems do they mean?
I thought end-game gems were Chalice dungeons and nothing else in the game came close.
4fe85d No.14616473
>>14616263
Oh, those are hamlet gems. That pic must’ve been my build after I went into ng+. Before Ludwig I’m confident my AR was ~720
a8b9cf No.14616488
>>14616415
It never was. Shitters like the saws/LHB, reddit likes the Chikage and cuckchan likes Whirligig
Tonsillitis is actually one of the worst weapons in the game since it is surpassed by most weapons in it's build (STR or STR/ARC) and is greatly outshined by its big brother in the DLC, the Boom Hammer. The fact it is relatively late out of the way doesn't make it a viable early game weapon either like the Rifle Spear on a STR/BLT build before Reiter/ Chikage/ Bowblade.
>>14616435
>What is Hamlet
Hmm, let me think…..the Fishing Hamlet???????
The gems you have can only be dropped by the Winter Lanterns (Doll monster with lots of eyes) in the Hamlet. There are only two lanterns there and they have a pretty low gem droprate(plus they often drop dogshit-tier curses on top); hence you must have farmed the place probs twice minimum.
And yes FRC gems are much better, usually 10-15% better, adding up for a total 30-45% more damage added on.
The point I was making is that you literally couldn't have beaten Ludwig before those gems you lying sack of shit
8a4b47 No.14616494
>>14616383
>I'm surprised you have got so far with such little health.
I just parry and dodge everything with 240+ damage.
Most bosses still have that one attack that ends all my efforts but it's usually well telegraphed.
I also play quite a bit of PVP :^)
>invader comes into your room
>rolls into you and attacks
>a second before they do, backhop and fire the rifle spear
>parry with the crit rune
4fe85d No.14616517
>>14616488
I’m the anon that beat Ludwig, not him. I made an error in not showing my gems the moment of his death instead of way after. The video will show my AR, and it’s still ridiculously high
a8b9cf No.14616567
>>14616494
I'm just saying, most of the later game bosses WILL oneshot you, along with PvP in the designated areas. The softcap of 30 is still deemed extremely low in most cases. I know that pain, 99arc was a right bastard to finish.
From an oldfag to a new; raise that Vit bro.
>>14616517
Doesn't take away the fact
>'Luddie first try'
>20 END
>More Skl than Str on LHB
>Is a Vilecuck
fe80a8 No.14616719
>>14616488
wrong anon, 4fe85d is your guy.
>>14616494
>Most bosses still have that one attack that ends all my efforts
With that Vit amount, that attack is pretty much all of them. Especially true in Bloodborne, DS was a lot more forgiving on the recovery animations. If you got hit once, you'd rarely get hit a second time before being in full control of your character. Bloodborne has bosses that managed to hit a 3 hit combo (effectively one shotting my 20 Vit ass) and that shit happens WAY more often than DS.
Still, it may indeed be more fun. At least your fights won't drag on for too long I guess.
8a4b47 No.14616753
>>14616719
i should specify that i mostly play multiplayer with a friend
Problem is he also does the same shit so it matters little
482d7a No.14617434
>>14616567
>'Luddie first try'
First time I ever saw him. I think all of the close calls can attest to that.
>20 END
k
>More Skl than Str on LHB
What was I suppose to do? Badly allocate my stats on purpose? The scaling is basically LKGS and it was easy to catch on.
>Vilecuck
Vilebloods did nothing wrong, eckscuckyushuner
2ab7ad No.14617471
When's that respec coming? Who we gotta nag?
Set a absurdly huge price and have the Doll do it, no need to make new assets besides adding the options to the Doll menu.
>>14617434
>Vilebloods did nothing wrong
Technically true. They just stood there being grounded into paste.
a3614e No.14617565
>>14617471
>Fromsoft
>doing anything intelligent or putting in even a scrap of effort
Pick one. The last four games they produced were all half finished and were barely supplemented by paid DLC after the fact. And correct me if I'm wrong, but zero new features were added as DLC in any of them, just zones, enemies, and weapons.
3dde34 No.14617589
>>14616415
I loved the tonitrus and the stake driver when I played. My damage was terrible since my stats were mainly in arcane but I loved the look and feel of them to much to replace them.
20ce14 No.14617650
>>14616488
I like whirligig & Moonlight GS. I need to still get a specific slotted version of it for my strength build though. Can't beat the fact it turns into super weapon but still looks really simplistic.
>>14617434
>get bored
>Try to marry the last one around
>She says no
>Go off into the sunset eating babies and become new deep one
Meh. If she had said yes it probably wouldn't have mattered.
2ab7ad No.14617740
>>14617565
Given its special circumstances, any patch done to BB likely needs the approval of both From and Sony and then you have a bunch of no fun allowed fudge packers saying the game doesn't need respec because hurr durr DaS2 trivialized it and there's no such thing as reworking a feature.
I don't want to change my build every 20m like I did in DaS3 (thanks to the glitch), I just want a chance to fix my characters, both the build and appearance and I don't care about the price - make 99 Insight, 1 million echoes, NG+ only etc. I don't care.
20ce14 No.14617771
>>14617740
Nah. Having a go to build is fine and resetting it kinda trivializes mistakes you made. The games are still free flowing that allow you to"fix" it. BB for example has the weapons slotted for specific builds out of the chalice dungeons.
20ce14 No.14617847
I wonder how I should start up the weapon grind again?
I don't know if I ever got the correct slot for my Moonlight GS
eac400 No.14618033
Has anyone noticed that the doll located in the abandoned workshop sometimes moves her fingers? Pretty spoopy
8802d9 No.14618037
>>14618033
I remember an autistic debate over whether or not it was a glitch
2ab7ad No.14618047
>>14618033
Her index occasionally twitches, could be mechanical. Same for the one in the dream if you have no Insight.
If you do have Insight, try the following with the Dream Doll - get in front of her with set the camera behind her then keep moving away from her until the camera is effectively inside her head.
eac400 No.14618050
>>14618037
It might be intentional since it seems to happen consistently and since it wasn't fixed in the special edition. But who knows with FromSoftware
efa7ca No.14618060
>>14618033
I think that's an oversight. The doll in the dream does it when you have no insight and I'm pretty sure they just directly copied that version of her, forgetting about that little detail.
eac400 No.14618064
>>14618047
I've seen that before, that's just a technique that gamedevs use to save time. Instead of making a complete eyeball you just make one half, add another half, put them together and make the 2nd iris look inwards
ac9414 No.14618069
>>14615989
I don't get any activity at the moment because I don't have PS+ in the first place. I'll probably very begrudgingly buy back into it for a while when I feel like knuckling down for a fresh start co-op playthrough with a friend or two, rather than just doing a chalice now and again on Addie/holy blade lady. But if I'm not going to definitely, actively use it, there's no way in hell I'm bothering with the subscription that shouldn't even be a subscription. Even if it is irritating how From didn't think to gate you from summons for online, and not from all passive/semi-online components like messages and chalice codes; or maybe that was Sony's call. Having to pay to build all of my own chalices is a pain, but it only hitches on dungeon materials every now and again. Less than you might think.
That said, I recall that I did get summoned plenty often around 120 and maybe past that when short chalicing myself in for co-op, but a large proportion were windowlickers. People with garbage fashion and hunters' axes (that they only use the spin on, and not the actually quite varied moveset; L2 swings are love for chaff crowds, dash stabs are a great initiator) doing the very first chalice at postgame levels, somehow thinking they needed the help or that I'd value my time being wasted. Or who got to a properly deep depth, but proceed to eat shit. I doubt it would be much improved at a lower level.
e5d27d No.14619462
Memeborne on PC with couch co-op saves when?
e90bd0 No.14619471
>>14619462
Why not just bloodborne 2? It can have references to berserk and stuff! And sad castles with dragons and sad warriors of dubious intent! I fucking love Japanese developers dude.
e83b2b No.14619476
>>14619462
yes when will sony release shadow of the colossus HD PC as well? Do you just go into threads to ask stupid questions?
e5d27d No.14619492
>>14619476
>yes when will sony release shadow of the colossus HD PC as well?
Why? Can't you emulate that already, and didn't they fuck the lighting and color balance in the "remaster"?
cd4483 No.14619499
>>14618069
ds3 arena grudge match tourney when
it's easy to spot your posts, goblin
a8b9cf No.14619514
>>14617434
>Vilebloods did nothing wrong, eckscuckyushuner
Nigga you fuckers are literal cuckholds. The entire point of the covenant is to gather semen from other hunters and give it to the queen to try and get her preggo. Hunter of Hunters is where it always has been at
>Small, yet useful and tangible stat boost of 5% Stamina regen (instead of a tiny HP boost, nonexistant regen and useless vial recovery increase)
>Lore freindly
>End of a nice quest
>Get to kill the occasional shitter even if they killed the bell maiden
>>14618069
2 week free subscriptions is your answer my nigga
>>14619471
>Dark Souls 4
BB2 should be a prequel set in Loran. Yharnum's story is nice and finished; but it would be interesting with a disgustingly underused medieval Arabian/Egyptian theme in a city that is already doomed. There are a fuck ton of hunters from 'far off lands' mentioned in BB1 like Eileen and Yamamura so it would be nice to see those places; the Great Ones there and the beast variants that formed
e90bd0 No.14619516
>>14619514
In all seriousness I could get behind that so long as we can lay some faggy tropes to rest for once.
95540a No.14619519
>>14589821
you're struggling with the easiest dark souls game?
I went in blind and finished it in my first playthrough with whatever the big slow weapon you get near the start is.
e83b2b No.14619521
>>14619492
it's changed a little but there are options to adjust it. It runs on identical logic to the original so that with 60fps is the best benefit. also emulation for sotc is pure shit if your concern is the lighting, emulation utterly butchers the games visuals.
ac9414 No.14619532
>>14619471
Don't be a nigger, anon. We already went through that rigamarole twenty or thirty posts ago.
>>14619514
Hunter of Hunters is definitely best covenant if you don't feel like Leaguing. I'm pretty sure I've already redeemed the two-week trial at some point. Does it refresh after any period of time? Could always just make a fresh profile and exploit it that way I suppose.
I could definitely get behind Indiana Jones with werewolves. Loran needs a little more exposition, as does the seemingly eternal motif of blessed wombs and adoptee children in ruined lands because Great Ones want babies.
b7c89e No.14619557
>>14608769
Chalice dungeons have some scary fuckers in em
a8b9cf No.14619567
>>14619557
>He hasn't seen a classic 3 bell maidens/2 witches/1longlegs ROOM 'O DOOM
Now that is some fucking fear right there
20ce14 No.14621041
Here's my stats.
>inb4 20 Endurance why
It's because I was playing solo and had no idea that was a thing. It's the same reason why my level is as high as it is.
2ab7ad No.14621309
>>14621041
>inb4 20 Endurance why
No but you'll get a "25 Skill why" and a "no tier 3 runes why"
But yeah, pumping points into END was a mistake I made a LOT of times. Part of why I want respec, it's consistently the biggest waste of points alongside a stray point in some skill to fiddle with a weapon I ended up not using or ARC beyond the Tool requirement in non-ARC builds.
20ce14 No.14621384
>>14621309
I increased skill because it helped with AR from moonlight GS and this is my first time really playing it. So I was playing around with other weapons too. It's not really a waste for me and I can use whatever weapon I really wish with my stats without losing too much AR as I still got fucktons of hitpoints & scaling potential, when it comes down to it gems and gem slotted weapons are more important alongside what your upgrade number is on your weapons.
20ce14 No.14621425
>>14621384
>>14621309
Oh and as for no tier 3 runes I just haven't acquired any yet. I mean if I had it wouldn't I use it?
Just use common sense if something isn't there, so I don't have the best runes obviously I either don't have them or I'm retarded. In this case I just don't have any and need to acquire them. I haven't played my save in a year and I was still working on Chalice dungeon grind for specific weapons that can be slotted for my STR build.
1d1bed No.14621887
>>14608096
>>14608645
as cool as it is reading what peoples' experiences going through chalice dungeons are like, the patience and time required to go through FROM's repeating hallways and cast-off enemy encounters is just too much for me beyond dipping my toes in
I wish they had just fucking extended the game and added these neat things in organically rather than bullshitting me with these boring and often frustrating areas.
2d0bbc No.14621925
I wanna smash and pound a cute vampire
stir up her fleshly pink insides
make her pregnant for all the world to see
20ce14 No.14621985
>>14621887
Nightmares are those witches that summons fuckers. Those things give me fucking nightmares and it's the worst thing about the whole game aside from some lazy hitboxes and that one poison swamp which I fucking hate.
ac9414 No.14622093
>>14619514
>>14619532
Anon, I investigated a little more into that trial suggestion. I thought there had to be more to it than what was said, following the 'I'll make another profile' logic. And boy do I feel stupid. I never bothered gaming the trials to any real degree, thinking, 'Sony probably engages in punitive actions for this if you overabuse it on one console. They're retarded, but they must at least be maliciously retarded.'
Going by the fact that there's still up to date videos on gaming the system from months back and new uploads from a few days ago, part of me feels inclined to believe it's a honey trap. How could they stay up unmolested for so long? But judging by the fact I can find nothing about anybody whinging about getting banned or penalized, it seems Sony really is just that stupid that they left a glaring hole open to anyone with a mind to use ten minute mail and a credit card generator to 'verify' an account. And because PS+ is just a bonus revenue source as suspected, not truly necessary for server costs or anything else, they just don't give a shit about people getting it free. Can it really be this easy?
20ce14 No.14622105
>>14622093
Saves don't transfer to new accounts and PSN+ is assigned to the account you sign get it on. I tried to transfer a save between two profiles so I could abuse this same thing but lost mine and forgot about the PSN+ for two weeks trial as it wouldn't work for some reason for me.
ac9414 No.14622118
>>14622105
The key, if I'm not mistaken, is that you assign the console as the 'primary system' of the dummy account. Because accounts on their primary system share all benefits of game ownership and PS+ online capability with all other accounts on the system. No save transfers necessary.
727664 No.14623678
>>14616415
The best weapon is blacksky eye at 99 arcane. Executioners glove too.
ac9414 No.14623878
Ha ha. Fun fact. I just watched, and confirmed through the potato quality clip function, that Bloodletting Beasts' elbow slam hitbox doesn't merely extend underneath his head. It goes behind the sides of his elbows, into the dead, completely open air next to his feet. They didn't even fucking try, it must be a giant rectangle roughly imposed over his arms/torso. I may finally knuckle down and learn to encode webms just for this, as I am ready to end my existence right here and now.
Anyone want to co-op? I'm a rusty piece of shit and still getting back into the swing of things, but I'd confidently describe myself as half-competent under most circumstances. And the shit-eating is going on in FRC chalices, so that might influence how quick things are tumbling down.
a8b9cf No.14624813
>>14623878
I'd happily coop providing I can catch you at the right time, but what are you stuck on/want to coop with?
a2082d No.14627838
>>14619519
>braging about easy mode
Shits op
Someone beat Ludwig first try with that weapon
e5d27d No.14627900
>>14627838
All weapons are viable.
5cfc3f No.14627905
e5d27d No.14627927
>>14627905
Show me a weapon that no one has completed the game with.
ac9414 No.14628481
>>14624813
Nothing and anything. I'm more offering to be summoned than to summon, I did say earlier that I solo religiously, although I suppose I could host if you've got nothing to do. As I'm completely insane and actually like the Chalice Dungeon format when it isn't fucking me with Hemwitches or health sponge NPC hunters multiple times a floor, and SRRC is easy peasy to get summoned through compared to meandering around areas with the bell on, that's what I tend to do when I'm not on a fresh character or deciding I want to run a NG+ cycle- I don't do that too often, since it means I won't be able to throw my small bell on anywhere I like until I play through the areas again- but anything goes.
eac400 No.14628651
>>14621925
Be sure to give her a ring before you do all of that, don't be a massive degenerate and at least get married to her
fa051d No.14628768
>>14627927
Well one guy beat every boss using bare fists. That doesn't make fists viable.
bec032 No.14628774
a8b9cf No.14629577
>>14628481
Yeah, SRRC's are basically a different game entirely, guessing that's why most people dislike them. Its a 3D Binding of Isaac in an Soulsborne, that's probs what split the playerbase.
Timewise I'm guessing you are Auzzie/west coast, in which a bong like me would die trying to play with. If I were you, cuckchan does FRC spelunking semi-often, with the major downside of playing with cuckchan. Take that as you will.
>>14627905
Unironically, there are no 'bad weapons' in this game. Some are outshined that fill a role better (Boom Hammer over Tonitrus for STR/ARC, Hunters Torch over Torch for Pure ARC and Reiterpallasch over Rifle Spear for SKL/BLT) but unlike Darks souls there are no abjectly 'bad weapons'. Only weapons made for different builds.
>>14628651
She'll reject you like every other she sees. You'll learn later in life most women have an aversion to cuckholds.
>>14628768
Bare fists actually are a viable weapon numbnuts. Equip the Kos Parasite at base stats, then use Flat Up gems or Rapid Poison on it to boost it. The attacks are fastest proccing in the game outside of a Tricked Whirligig L2, so they are very very viable. Also one of the 3 builds in the game that requires a bit of END investment (other than Reiter Shield and Stake Driver Charged R2) since you leave all your damage stats at base. Amazing for twinks.
If you want to get going
Cruel Fate
(Max your meta will allow)/20/10/9/5/20
>>14628774
Never, but I've seen enough shit on the net that suggests a lot would.
ac9414 No.14629670
>>14629577
Insomniac west burgerman, yes. Frankly, I would prefer bizarro timezone matching- if it wasn't quite this late I'd hop on for a bit with you, but I was just about to pack it- even if with only occasional results or else continuing to assist randos while waiting for some peers of mine to get rolling on their own fresh playthroughs over touching the /bbg/ people with a ten foot pole; last I checked some months or a year ago (you get curious about how badly things have degenerated sometimes) the general has long degraded into a static, dead culture and beyond that into rot, Lucifer is still alive over there somehow, and has gone completely insane, high on his own farts & being an ego-tripping shitter, and redubbed himself God-King Lucifer. Frankly I wonder how many posters remain that aren't homegrown or ex-/dsg/ tripfags by now. Or if they even exist.
I doubt it'd be very productive throwing in with them anyways, because I don't think those few /bbg/goers that're left do anything but Bloodborne at extra-low 90- meta, ever, and I'm a rusty piece of shit getting back into the swing of things. Good enough to have gotten plat, I suppose, but not gracefully. And nevermind all that, cuckchan is a forbidden zone and for good reason, if you don't have the excuse of monitoring or trying to play at influencing that morass of shit. It's a shithole of low grade shitposters and assorted shitters. I imagine they'd at least have good fashion sense compared to the average, though. The ones that aren't triangleface ayywaifus.
a8b9cf No.14629786
>>14629670
Exactly my thoughts, I was only offering a choice. As a sidenote, I heard in a thread a while ago else that the place got infested by legitimate redditards making the place so bad even Lucifer left. I checked a few months ago and I swear down the first post I saw was talking about a bb disagreement-at which point I promptly left.
If you want to coop that much; find a decent time before UK midnight, I'm pretty sure I have a fresh FRC to do on one of my characters.
6d60c2 No.14629828
>>14590825
>tfw you used Ludwig's Holy Blade and loved it
Does using the two handed make more or less trash than the one handed?
927922 No.14630458
>>14608096
>Buff Lightning Wolfman is 10/10 and honestly better than most bosses from the main game, the spiritual successor of Flamelurker.
I concur, i could harp alot on why its one of the best, if not the best Chalice Dungeon exclusive boss in the game (non-retarded camera, absolutely aggresive moveset, wide range of attacks that doesn't follow a patter, etc) but i'll just say that From must've thought that the boss was so good that it was re-used twice (thrice if you count the beggar) in the game.
By the way, i really like this image, props to the artist for staying true to KF's design and still manage to capture the Abhorrent Beast's characteristics
>But let's talk about the REAL final boss of the dungeons, this fat piece of shit that I would bet good money was designed for the express purpose of pissing people off.
Fuck that fucker, atleast the Autistic Skinnies are easy to parry, there's no telling what would that fat fuck do after he stopped rolling. He's also as beefy as his more sensible brothers too, i've wasted more time on these stupid boogie wannabes compared to any other mobs in the Chalice Dungeons.
>>14608645
Oh shit they existed? Neat. I watched alot of Cut Content vids but only now i've heard that they actually in the game proper.
>They are bad Pthumerian juju.
Yeah i know that they're there to protect the catacombs but against whom did they protect it from? It can't be the Tomb Prospectors since they came so late into the Pthumerian Downfall, and it can't be the Loran scourge since it happened after Mergo's stillbirth. I could only theorize that there was supposed to be some ancient antagonistic faction akin to the Demons from said Alpha builds as a foe to the Pthumerians, but were cut to due to From having the usual time constarints.
>Bloodborne had some peculiar changes mid-development and most likely suffered the same half-finished syndrome as every Souls game, but was pulled together far more gracefully than the others.
E-yup i agree, its telling that alot of the cut content resides in the Chalice Dungeon since it only reinforces further that From pretty much crammed as much previously finished assets they could into the Chalice Dungeons to not waste the work that had already been done. I mean hell, most of the enemies in the CDs fit right in with Dark Soul's universe, and if you put them in the game world they'll stick out like a padded asset compared to the rest.
I'm still bummed out that there's not a single proper Vileblood enemy to be found. The Bloody Crow is not a Vileblood since it was found outside of the Castle (what an underutilized area, truly a shame) and was part of Eileen's quest, not ours. There's only old midgets of varying sizes and loads of ghosts. No Vampires, like what the fuck From?
>>14608949
>>14609050
>People actually had a problem with Abhorrent Lightning Wolfman's punch
I always see that punch as an opening to be exploited tbh, since it has a long animation and can be easily dodged by dodging into the punch (From™ logic). You could easily dodge onto his face and just spam some transformed attacks until the head cracks open and doles out bonus damage.
The real attacks that you should be looking out for are the Whirlwind attacks, now those moves are guaranteed to wreck the Hunter since Big, Hairy, Rippling Static Wolfman here would follow a successful whirlwind punch with an RKO.
>>14610549
Yeah but why would the neighboring child would bother to actually get some plain white ribbon? It just doesn't add up. Plus, add in the fact that it was Pale Moon and everyone loses their wits when it came about.
>>14616488
But the Whirligig is awesome though, its a fucking Pizza Cutter but for 8-feet long beasts. Perfect for Eating Beasts. The L2 attack is my personal favorite for when you just hate a mob / NPC hunter so hard that you'd kill it by rending their flesh for 10 seconds straight. I also raised my END to 40 just to use this attack its a comfy build for grinding fuckers, not for srs pvping
2ab7ad No.14630486
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>>14630458
>i'll just say that From must've thought that the boss was so good that it was re-used twice (thrice if you count the beggar) in the game.
I think it was used so you could have a enjoyable fight to go with a good track so it doesn't go to waste on Camerabeast Paarl.
>there's no telling what would that fat fuck do after he stopped rolling
That's because he never stops rolling.
c7decb No.14630537
>>14589976
>character stats
I could beat you all easy but I won't cause I cheated :3
I wouldn't have to if there was an easy mode tho. it's just hella ridiculous
727664 No.14630545
>>14630458
>There's only old midgets of varying sizes and loads of ghosts. No Vampires, like what the fuck From?
Well there are fleaman vampires outside and bitey gargoyles on the ledges.
a8b9cf No.14630555
>>14629828
Both modes are shitter tier due to the ease of spam R1's
>>14630458
>against whom did they protect it from
I'd imagine it's similar to the Egyptian pyramids having traps, to stop any old nosy fucker in general from poking around stealing their shit and knowing their secrets. Tomb Prospectors just happened to be those nosy fuckers for the occasion.
As a side note, I honestly can't enjoy Abo or any of the other beast bosses. The minor ones are joke-tier easy (Silver/BPS); the mid sized bosses (Abo/BSB) all have a huge hardcounter to walking/sticking to their right hand side (your left) to the point where you don't even need to roll once in any of their respective fights and the giant ones (Dark/Bloodletter) have general hitbox issues. Best Chalice boss imo is Pthu Elder when his AI doesn't make him act like a bitch
>Vilebloods
The Gargoyles are found widely in the Chalices, but I suppose it fits in line with the theme of Vileblood being a minor offshoot of the beastyblood. Btw; the Castle was the test area, much alike Painted world of Ariamis, it was the most realised thing in the game (second only to Mizaki's personal favourite Darkbeast). Now the forest inbetween Hemwick and CW-that is an underutilised area I bet you fucking forgot about it already
>>14630537
Take the (You) and begone baitposter
2ab7ad No.14630570
>>14630545
It's likely they're both beast forms, the gargoyles for Vilebloods and the primal jews for Pthumerians.
6d60c2 No.14630594
>>14630555
I'm probably gonna replay it soonish. What are some fun weapons then?
2ab7ad No.14630641
>>14630594
They're honestly all good in their own way and this game lends itself very well to single weapon runs. I just don't like the Saw Spear because it feels derivative.
What build did you use in your first run? Try something wholly different from that or, alternatively, challenge yourself to do a run with a weapon you think is crap. I did the later for the Ritterschnitzel and the Steak Diner and both cases were pretty insightful, pun very much intended. Really got to learn a ton of intricacies about then like how tricked Reiter isn't just good for the gun but how its R1 is straight sword hell.
If you want to take it to further cycles, I'd only say ARC builds are a pain in the ass to optimize, everyone else is Tempering gems and Radial-Radial-Triangle.
6d60c2 No.14630671
>>14630641
I'm not sure, it's been a good while since I've played it but I think I did a mostly balanced build with a focus on STR and skill
28233e No.14631265
>tfw not gud
>tfw try to git gud but don't
This is my first play through and I just lost about 50 insight to the brainsuckers in upper cathedral ward.
9253dd No.14631330
>>14589976
these are terrible builds
2ab7ad No.14631378
>>14631265
>equip Threaded Cane
>do jumping attack
>weapon phases through door
>hits Cock Sucker
>get key without having to fight any of them
>go to the other door
>do the same thing because fuck Brain Suckers
Tricked LHB (R2) and tricked Kirk (impact AoE) can sometimes get the key one too.
Anyway, they're kin so Bolt, Thrust and Blood damage all do a number on them.
ac9414 No.14631544
Another fun fact; Watchdog of the Old Lords' giant rearing leap? Not the straight rushdown, the really rare one where his neck cranes, he clicks his teeth, and then leaps across the arena to snap you straight in half. Unless my eyes are lying, and I was too flabbergasted to clip it and wasn't even sure there'd be enough clarity anyways, it has no limits to its turning radius. He started that move to punish a host that was way across the room like a dingaling. I smack hotdog on the ass with my HMB, still locked on, didn't drop it because he was going to zip across the room.
My entire health bar then instantly dropped, I exploded into treats, and the camera went fucking crazy whipping around, and when things settled I was dead and he was ramming straight into the wall behind me. It was a one in a million chance to swap his aggro during that move it's so uncommon, so who knows if this was ever discovered before now. After that, BLB's elbow slam being a giant rectangle, and Undead Giant doing his left-hand 'get off my side' sweep and hitting me in spite of not even coming near to the brim of my hat, I reserve eternal right to salt about chalice boss hitboxes.
>>14630458
>Yeah i know that they're there to protect the catacombs but against whom did they protect it from?
Demons like you said? Beasts during the mid-downfall? Trespassers within their own civilization, from before the advent of the Tomb Prospectors/Breakers?
>it has a long animation and can be easily dodged by dodging into the punch
You say that, but in spite of the giant fucking snail-slow tell it has, dodging into it has had mixed results for me. But mostly I just hate the stretch armstrong thing it does on principle. And the whirlwind attacks are mean.
>Yeah but why would the neighboring child would bother to actually get some plain white ribbon?
Because dumb children in bloodtown that've got their screws loose from a bad moon. 'Why would Viola's daughter think she can get to Oedon Chapel on her own' is just as valid a question, in this case. The answer is that the daughter is a naive schoolchild, and the neighbor is a spiteful pre-adolescent. And neither fully grasps just how bad shit is. Hence getting eaten by pigs or smashed by brick trolls doing dumb child things.
>>14629786
If you want to get up to something bonganon, I'm free for the time being. 10:10-20ish UK time isn't too bad, I hope.
28233e No.14631577
>>14631378
I'd managed to get through it, beat the blue boss then got my shit kicked by the second boss a few times. But after I stopped playing and looked up brainsuckers on the wiki I realised these fuckers are all kin, I have something equipped, gem or rune, that reduces kin damage, I thought kin meant other hunters, fuck.
2ab7ad No.14631636
>>14631577
Ebrietas will fuck your shit up, yeah. No brakes on the Steamroller of the Cosmos.
As for Brain Suckers, honestly, I just look for ways to kill them without having to actually fight them, whether it's a stealthy back visceral or use of terrain and when I do have to fight them, I make sure to have something to serve as a wall. Upper Ward will make you fight at least 2 of them if you intend to proceed through the area.
727664 No.14631840
>>14631636
>Brain Suckers
Bolt + thrust is your friend
a8b9cf No.14632294
>>14630671
Second run really lends to a BLT combo. 50Blt, 25 other. Str gives you the Bloodletter and Cannons, Skl gives you the Chikage and the Bowblade. Alternatively you could go for a pure Str (Hammers, AmyArm, Beast Cutter) or Skl (Rakuyo, Church Pick, BoM, Burial Blade)
>>14631544
To beat bork all you have to do is stand directly in front. It'll repeat the easy bites and the bite chain in the second phase. Easily the easiest of the defield trio
Also here if you are got a while spare
ac9414 No.14632333
>>14632294
I know, I know. Smash his face, back up, continue. But that's both piss easy and agonizingly slow. I like to live moderately dangerously and dodge through that bite chain to explode his knees, and smack his face with charged R2s when he does the slowwalk flamethrower bite. I'm decent enough at doing it. But the 180 jumping attack was a curveball.
I'm good to go if you are, password?
a8b9cf No.14632373
>>14632333
>I like to live dangerously
>Why did doggy bite me?
Pass 333 in recognition of nice trips, but give us about 10 mins while I do my poundland pot noodle
ac9414 No.14632427
>>14632373
Anon, the dog can't bite me with his ass while doing a giant windup jump attack aimed directly away. He does not have butt teeth. I might have understood if it was the headbutt rush and he continued away from me, because his entire body turns into a lazy hitbox that doesn't care about where you are relative to him if you're too close like Ebrietas, but he gave me the DBZ afterimage treatment. These are exceptional circumstances.
a8b9cf No.14632468
>>14632427
Ringing now btw, you want the glyph or is SRRC fine?
ac9414 No.14632495
>>14632468
Just using the SRRC. Unless somebody else is somehow using those trips at the same time, it'll be quick and accurate enough.
ac9414 No.14632544
>>14632468
It seems to be hanging a long while. 333, set to Worldwide in case servers are suddenly split with more nuance than 'Japs/Everyone Else,' still nada. Check password, maybe glyph on second thought?
a8b9cf No.14632563
I'm sorted, but if you want the glyph it's 5u8imr7n
ac9414 No.14632588
>>14632563
No dungeons found. What chalice is this, exactly? I've made one of every FRC before, so I'm not sure what the deal might be.
a8b9cf No.14632603
>>14632588
FRC Isz, 5u8imr7n
a8b9cf No.14632618
FUCK ME i forgot to set it open
ac9414 No.14632623
>>14632603
Made a fresh FRC Isz just to be sure there was no chance that I somehow had no access to that level for glyphs, still ded glyph search-
>>14632618
W E W
a8b9cf No.14632633
>>14632623
Well now I feel like a right nonce. As you can tell, I haven't hosted many of these myself
ac9414 No.14632657
>>14632633
No problem. Hopping into the dungeon to ring smol bell now.
a8b9cf No.14632724
>>14632657
If you are in the glyph, I'll turn off the password. It might speed it up a bit and some pubbies might fall in. NA connection so I'll give you time
ac9414 No.14632730
>>14632633
>>14632724
Anon, just a thought, but you wouldn't happen to be sitting in the first pre-lamp room, would you? It blocks bells. Tried SRRC for a bit, going back in now.
a8b9cf No.14632739
I'm not that stupid, i'm at first lamp. juss stop bulli mann feelsbadman
ac9414 No.14632758
>>14632739
Try again with 333 on. Might be a level range theme with the password off, now.
a8b9cf No.14632759
>>14632730
See your ghost, pass off btw
ac9414 No.14632784
>>14632759
I'm sitting right here, password on, password off, bell on, local, worldwide matchmaking, still nothing. What level are you? If you're at least BL 100 I should be able to match without the password, but otherwise it's necessary.
ac9414 No.14632822
>Searching for the chime of a Beckoning Bell
>Searching for the chime of a Beckoning Bell
>Searching for the chime of a Beckoning Bell
We're pairing the right bells together, right anon? You're trying to summon me and not the other way around, right?
95875d No.14632900
>>14632822
Can you just fucking share a PSN with each other instead of doing this shit? Sage or not, this dozen or so posts of non-convo is a fucking eyesore.
2ab7ad No.14632980
Level shouldn't be a issue for password summons but the netcode is prone to episodes of dysentery and sometimes won't connect or will take ages to do it.
ac9414 No.14632993
>>14632900
Sorry about that. Was trying not to be the niggest with bumps, but it still stretches the thread.
PSN's MEAT-BULKHEAD, bonganon.
d2e96c No.14634926
>>14632294
>Easily the easiest of the defield trio
No, the easiest would go the to the Bone Ash Slut, she's so predictable in her first phase that you could chain viscerals on her by parrying her right after she gets up (hint: 90% of the time she's gonna do a backstep swing, but fire the shot just right before she's fully on her feet), and fisting her until she's expired. If the second phase is giving you trouble, then try to delay it by backstabing her when she's buffing up her katana. If you somehow manage to fail that, then ignore parry entirely if its too risky (i did) and just chip her health one by one.
But yeah, Demonic Arcanine is pretty easy once you know how to bait his attacks and not get greedy with the attacks.
>>14631378
>>14631840
DO you guys have a fetish for tentacle fuck? Brainsucker-chan seems to be posted whenever the topic of Bloodborne is somewhere near your earshot. I mean ffs this image already posted twice in this thread alone.
>>14630545
Yeah but those guys are chumps, they're cannon fodder and chunk fodder for the most part. I want a real goddamn vampire damnit, i mean Martyr Logarius was at one point wasn't even supposed to be an Executioner, but the Vileblood King instead.
2ab7ad No.14635598
>>14634926
For me, it's just to post something BB related besides the Doll who makes about 80% of my BB collection and Maria because she triggers the Alfred LARPers. …but fuck it! have the rest of the pairing pics.
a8b9cf No.14636388
>>14632993
We don't ever talk about yesterday again. Ever.
>>14634926
The fact Watcher can give you any form of trouble in the first place, on any build at all instantly makes her harder than firepup
>>14635598
>first pic
Sitting next to your emotionless identical android twin would be pretty fucking trippy. Great concept for a movie.
cd4483 No.14636614
>>14632993
>>14636388
jesus christ, just kiss already
9253dd No.14637293
>>14632900
Takes maybe one wheel scroll to get past all of those posts, are you really that bothered by it?
e5d27d No.14639392
c1665a No.14640959
e5d27d No.14641770
28233e No.14642446
Ludwig is bullying me. How do I summon Kate Bush?
a9aed1 No.14642451
>>14642446
Equip Kirks and start singing hammer horror.
e5d27d No.14645495
b1e6ad No.14646113
f31a61 No.14646164
I didn't play Bloodborne for very long, but in my few hours with it I never managed to figure out gun stagger timing like I did with Dark Souls. There was one boss where it seemed totally fucking random whether or not it worked.
6d60c2 No.14646177
>>14646164
I don't use it too much since most of my weapons have been twohanders but I think it might also depend somewhat on the power of the gun.
2ab7ad No.14646551
>>14646164
>There was one boss where it seemed totally fucking random whether or not it worked.
Which one? Sometimes the vulnerable frames can be deceiving, the Descendant comes to mind - in phase 1, it's the starting wind up but in phase 2 it's basically when his weapon is a inch from your neck. It also depends on what weapon you use - Pistol is the easiest since it's the fastest draw so you can be more reactive with it (if I'm not mistaken, the Evelyn is similar) while the Blunderbuss has a spread shot with heavy knockback that can stop some enemies even if you fail the stagger but is a slower draw and the Piercing Rifle is like the Blunderbuss in terms of timing but goes through enemies instead of making a spreadshot.
Played a bit of this last night, to take a short break from P5, just helping folks with the Orphan while getting some practice for myself (fought him about a 100+ times by now and I still can't consistently deal with him despite already picking up a good amount of tricks) and gotta say, co-op Orphan has some unique quirks.
I don't know if these are deliberate or lag related but firstly, scoring a backstab feels completely random, punctured his ass about 10 times and nothing; secondly the bastard can chain his AoEs (both the lightning and the placentanade ground burst) and you'll get 2 or 3 in a row.
5721f0 No.14646573
>>14646551
All bullets actually come out at the same time, it's the endlag that is different. Blunderbusses give you less time to react after the shot.
774fd3 No.14646595
Picked up the game again and I'm doing NG+, along with the DLC for the first time. Just beat Ludwig, that was a great fight once I got over how aggressive his first form is.
Do you need really high Arcane to make the Moonlight Greatsword work? I've been doing pure quality so far, but I've got a few extra points in Arcane already for the Beast Roar. Just for PVE, I'm not worried about PVP min-maxing.
2ab7ad No.14646692
>>14646573
>Blunderbusses give you less time to react after the shot.
That is true, it does feel like you take a bit more time to step forward because of the weapon's kick.
>>14646595
For the tricked form, yes. Normally the sword is good with Nourishing gems to boost both forms though you could also only use one form of it and use the appropriate gems. It sounds like you got 15 ARC which is pretty low tbh. The physical form of the sword is really good by itself. I guess you can keep pumping ARC as far as you can within the level limit you set for yourself but from what you said, it seems like the tricked form will be more about fun than efficiency.
*insert autistic rambling about respec'ing*
e5d27d No.14647015
>>14646113
I will eat your children.
>>14646164
>>14646177
>>14646551
I almost never use the fucking guns, because as rewarding as it is to visceral, it's too high risk. If you fuck it up you're almost guaranteed to be hit and possibly even oneshot. I can kill bosses far fewer tries by just dodging and attacking. I think there are some bosses that can't even be stunned by the guns, so one might be searching for a vulnerable moment in vain.
>>14646976
Is this one of the older hitboxes that were patched, or is it still this fucked?
5721f0 No.14647064
>>14646976
>>14647015
> fucked
He deserved every bit of that.
>full cuckhurst+LHB
and then some
1d8910 No.14647070
>>14647015
I recorded that in mid 2017, so I doubt it. I was going for the platinum trophy and that was my final run on NG+, about 140~ish level build.
f31a61 No.14647173
>>14647015
>>14646177
Yeah, if I played again I would just leave my pride behind and drop the guns entirely.
>>14646551
Bah, I can't remember anymore.
2ab7ad No.14647201
>>14646976
Oh Amygdala! Oh Amygdala! Have mercy on the poor bastard.
>>14647015
Rule of thumb, humanoid bosses can be gun staggered and set up for a back visceral. Bigger bosses can be visceraled if you damage a specific body part enough (usually the head but can be the legs like with Amelia), there's some in-betweens that follow the rules as humanoid bosses like the Bloodstarved Beast and assholes that aren't vulnerable to any even if some can be stunned for a while (Fire Doggo, Buff Lightning Wolfman, Rom, The One Stunlocked, Big Ayyy and, I think, the Wet Nurse).
Viscerals are good for SKL builds, especially pure ones since those can afford stacking up Clawmarks for optimal damage. Other builds might benefit from other things, or try to sneak in a hit and then get the visceral; with a STR build, a visceral might hit about as hard as charged attack.
774fd3 No.14647397
>>14646692
Thanks. I'll probably start dumping points in Arcane then, just so I can fuck around with it. My main weapon right now is the Burial Blade, so hopefully it won't be too big a damage loss with that (even if it doesn't have actual arcane scaling).
28233e No.14648370
>getting bummed by Ludwig
>real fucking tired of the long trek back to him
>fuck up my visceral on the church cannon executioner
>notice a building that I've been sprinting past
>go inside
>there's a lamp I missed, Nightmare Church
>been walking from Hunters Nightmare each time
Who /dunce/ here?
20ce14 No.14648444
>>14646976
Amygdala is a crock of shit. Fighting it again later in the chalice dungeons was annoying too.
2ab7ad No.14648577
>>14648370
From my experience as a co-operator, it's very common. I make a dash to the lamp while the host goes in direction of Ludwig, then I stand there spinning in place to get their attention until I feel like a stupid asshole, decide "fuck it, it's your ass" and go to the host.
28233e No.14648692
>>14648577
I had been passed it to pick up the clothes a while back, completely missed it. Happened in Mensis too, thought the noise of the lamp was the Brain. I bet I've missed others.
727664 No.14648793
>>14648370
Now go get your pizza cutter anon.
28233e No.14649152
>>14648793
I've had it a while, I'm not strong enough to use it.
800bfd No.14649374
Bloodborne should have been the game dark souls should have been, also should have been put on pc.
28233e No.14649628
>tfw no tall lady maria gf who acts like she can beat you up but really just wants to be dominated
I've lost Simon, after I beat Ludwig I kinda just ran through the rest and haven't seen him since the first time, will he come back?
727664 No.14649695
>>14649628
I think you'll catch up with him eventually even if you miss his other locations. He's easy to miss in his last spot since it's dark and he's lying on the ground.
1f9a2d No.14649811
>>14646976
>full cainhurst set
>LHB
you asked for it
1eb083 No.14654035
Bloodborne is the best souls game by far.
cdfa88 No.14654056
>>14648812
healing church did lots of messed up things but they did not deliberately contaminated blood supply of Yharnam. Beasthood is part of human nature (in bloodborne's universe) and consuming blood of any origin will only facilitate your bloodlust. I do not know how the actual threshold works or how revelation of blood moon comes into the play but at least that was my conclusion after reading description of runes and memos.
not that even memazaki himself actually cares about the constructive lore
28233e No.14658458
>thought I could carry on with my game after killing moon man
>thought I got to make a new character for NG+
>didn't kill Lawrence
Fuck.
6d2372 No.14658494
>>14658458
You didn't miss much, he's a boring boss anyway
727664 No.14658637
>>14658494
Other than getting the wolfman rune.
3a6683 No.14658644
Bloodborne is nearly impossible to do licensed character builds in.
2ab7ad No.14659613
>>14658644
Tell that to the mouth breakers making Joker (capeshit) builds. It's no exaggeration, I must have run into at least 20 of them. It's even worse than the Guts builds in DaS3.
727664 No.14659672
>>14659613
>Tell that to the mouth breakers making Joker (capeshit) builds.
That can probably be blamed on Phil.
629c2b No.14659687
>>14658644
Not impossible, just kinda hard and requires thought
>alucard
>just use arcane and bloodtinge, eve and reit, get KosP for stabby hands, bathe in the blood
>Anderson
>BoM and A Call Beyond as primary damage outputs (ACB looks like that one time anderson tossed a bunch of blades at once)
>toss knives sometimes I guess
>Arcane and Skill
>Batou
>canon, pile bunker, Gatling gun, pretty much be good with all guns
You just need to think about how they would work in the game
>>14659613
>People love guts
>no one plays as skull knight
I don't understand this; I understand that >sword and board is shit tier but SK is radical and much cooler than guts in most of his appearances
6d60c2 No.14660974
I'm a fucking retard. Been walking around half the game with the whirligig as my main weapon and I only just now figured out that you can hold the L2 attack.
1c5afa No.14661045
>>14659687
Sword Knight would literally just be dressing like a dark wraith, and everyone hates the dark sword.
629c2b No.14661325
>>14661045
>sword knight
lol
>dressing like dark wraith
>everyone hates the dark sword
What, really? Dark sword has my favorite moveset in the game; this really only means I like the heavy attack because the main R1s are always the same within the same class. The winding sweep is always great for catching rolls, and otherwise it has such a weird animation that it's hard to guess at, and since I see it underused most people don't know what to do against it. PVP aside, it's a really great looking weapon and hitting enemies with that sweep and then coming down with a follow up overhead is radical. I'm getting the urge to play dark souls again just to play a dark wraith now.
>dressing like a dark wraith
In 1 it definitely can be is, but the steel armor and gauntlets as well as pieces of the kirk set can debated to be skull knight looking, and you can pick and choose how to build him still; his main draw is figuring out how to play him with the blade of actuation, and in doing so you'll need some points in magic, which will inevitably lead to using more spells for the sake of getting the bang for your buck.
In 3 it's really fair game to use quite a few swords and armors since they actually realized people like skull knight and gave you options to do so
>Dark wraith set for entry tier
>DW with Mourne chest for now you look like you want to be a skull knight
>Soul of cinder helm with the rest of that stuff for looking good
>Dragonslayer armor with soul of cinder helm for secret DLC skull knight
>there is a literal shout out sword for skull knight with the quest where you kill the sorc when he gets to firelink
>DLC has a weapon that may as well have been called the blade of actuation
>used in conjuntion with the only shield that looks like the skull knight shield, the eagle kite shield, you can use the weapon art, which does BoA shit
>dark sword with some magical buffs if you want to play more how it's supposed to look I guess
Speaking of that fire sword from the DLC, why did it have the weapon art the coiled sword should have had? And why haven't they gone back in and changed it?
>>14660974
Pizza cutter has an unknown learning curve for casuals.
2ab7ad No.14661342
>>14659687
>Valtr head and body
>Cainhurst arms and legs
>Stake Driver and Church Cannon
Robocop or, in this case, Clockwork Constable
There was one I'd give a shot at it if I wasn't burned out of the game by now - Dr. Goulloyne from Dai Gyakuten Saiban 2. ARC-SKL with BoM and tools.
>sword and board is shit tier
In DaS3? Quite the opposite. It's arguably the strongest build even if kinda dull.
629c2b No.14661347
>>14661342
>In DaS3? Quite the opposite. It's arguably the strongest build even if kinda dull.
That's why it's shit tier.
6d60c2 No.14661367
>>14661325
I've mostly just been using the R1 and R2 and after trying out the L2 a bit more I definitely prefer the normal swings. Feels like they do more damage too
629c2b No.14661380
>>14661367
Use BBP and hold L2
6d60c2 No.14661420
>>14661380
Fair enough, I never use BBPs so that didn't occur to me
a8b9cf No.14662144
>>14648370
For a lamp you never noticed, look around the Cuck Queen's chamber. There is literally a lamp next to her, you don't have to use Logarius' Seat ever
a8b9cf No.14662159
>>14658644
Fuck off, my licensed character saves off the top of my head
Hitlel
>Flamesprayer, Rosmarinus, Boom Hammer STR/ARC
Pyramid Head
>Butcher Set, Exe Head, Bloodletter and Piercing Rifle
One Punch Man
>Stake Driver, Fist of Gratia, Henryk Garb+Knight Set
Leonidas
>Only Gauntlets, Spear/Shield
727664 No.14662217
>>14662144
In a related question, once you inter the top of the cathedral through the broken glass (after where you killed the Great Ayy) is there any other way out other than using a Hunters's Mark or killing Ebby? Or am I missing something?
a8b9cf No.14662245
>>14662217
Suicide by jumping down the sent down elevator, but apart from that, no there is no way to do it while retaining your echoes.
If you are genuinely trapped, suicide is the best option; because it allows you to leave, farm up for a hunters mark, return and pick up your splash
28233e No.14662623
I really skimped on my vit and now Defiled Chalice is shitting on me.
>>14662144
Yeah got that one.
b61413 No.14667508
>>14662217
>In a related question, once you inter the top of the cathedral through the broken glass (after where you killed the Great Ayy) is there any other way out other than using a Hunters's Mark or killing Ebby? Or am I missing something?
No it's a bit of a flaw in my opinion.
9253dd No.14667542
>>14667508
How could you possibly not have any BHMs at that point?
28233e No.14672385
>his lasers
wack
>his punches
wack
>the way he doesn't even want to attack me
wack, I hate this fucking faggot.
c1665a No.14675903
>>14667542
Never underestimate what a player can manage.
cdfa88 No.14687806
>>14612391
I want to thank you for opening my eyes. I started pure ARC glass canon build recently and enjoying every single aspect of it more than I probably should.
I did not even bother with cane so far and only used torch till Amelia and spammed gloves/tt after defeating her.
currently stuck with Ludwig but hopefully I'll be able to land enough ACB projectiles next time when he decides to animation cancel 5 hit MLB spam.
629c2b No.14687878
>>14687806
>ACB
don't do this
>AoE
do this
0f507b No.14687899
>>14680548
>TFW I'm in that cap
cdfa88 No.14687919
>>14687878
After hitting 70ARC ACB blast is somewhat viable versus large enemies. I have to be in perfect position to deal maximum amount of dmg and gets wrecked myself most of the time but I don't play game just to beat it with maximum efficiency.
076574 No.14687926
629c2b No.14688038
>>14687919
You don't understand
>ACB
>12 bullets
>AoE
>1 bullet
you're in for the long haul with AoE but it's the better option in terms of damage per blast for a fast guy like wigger.
1f9a2d No.14688161
>>14658644
i still need to do a mad hater build
cdfa88 No.14688265
>>14688038
but anon… ACB costs 7 bullets in current patch. which means effective bullect consumption is 2 should you replenish blood bullet every time you cast it.
629c2b No.14688324
>>14688265
>7
sorry, I was thinking of canon
It's still only 10 casts per fight and you have to be on your toes the whole time.
c7decb No.14688521
>>14593956
>second pic
I still come back to smile at how perfectly this fits. Though honestly Maria/Doll is the second most important and special part of Bloodborne that really sets it apart. I'm angry there's so much more "Firekeeper & Unkindled" artwork than "Doll & Hunter". Firekeeper didn't even talk to you barely at all and she barely had a role in anything whatsoever. MarDol actually had a HUGE role in both the lore and the plot itself while also being one of the only two characters with not only actual development but whom you genuinely grow close to, the other being Gherman.
Bloodborne just did this so right that it felt wrong going back to Dark Souls the way it was, although the DLC was pretty good there despite it's atrocious bosses.
4ff9e6 No.14691792
>>14589821
Try a game that wasn't spread on this board by sony shills.
cdfa88 No.14692804
>>14688324
aaand it's done!
c1665a No.14699167
>>14688384
Someone save that doggo.
75db64 No.14699304
>>14608915
>Dude my mom is sick give me money
c27b8d No.14699540
>>14589821
The game starts out hard but its really easy to snowball in power in the late game making it way too easy. Just get accustomed to the different playstyle and you will be fine. The build is not really that important, just stick with a single weapon for most the game and upgrade and pump stats that benefit damage.
2ab7ad No.14701583
Careening on the off-topic but been on a Lovecraft binge lately and there was something in Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath that got me wondering if it could work in a game of this style - the protagonist learns some key words that allow him to communicate with the denizens of the dreamlands, including some that were hostile to him before. Do you think that could be implemented in a meaningful way? I don't just mean a possession spell like Rapport in DaS or the effects of the Shaman Bone Blade but other effects like being able to talk to the creatures and they'll point the way to secret areas or help you traverse some complicated parts of the map, maybe have a risk-reward aspect to it so you'll be extra fucked if it fails.
>>14699540
>pic3
I wish there were more alternate versions of existing sets like the Yharnam Hunter Hat having the face guard and no hat and vice-versa likewise for Eileen's mask without the hat.
Also a shame we can't get the iron masks of the Mensis mooks.
28233e No.14703945
>>14701583
Hat, mask, jacket, cape, gloves, trousers and boots as separate pieces would be perfect. I don't like hiding my qt witch's qt face, Maria's hat is the only good option, plus I'd like the beast hide on other jackets.
>>14692804
What lvl ARC where you there? I've been doing ARC this time through and I'm finding a lot of bosses, especially Ludwig, much easier than before. Other hunters and more humanoid bosses have been kicking my shit though.
2ab7ad No.14705402
Fan stuff. Pretty neat IMHO.
cdfa88 No.14706428
>>14703945
I believe it was 78.
Most if not all the bosses of Bloodborne does not have built in move to punish extreme ranged attack like well positioned ACB. Ebrietas will die as she slowly crawls to me.
I had somewhat difficult time killing Ludwig in second phase and OoK in his second phase because they have range punish (and Ludwig's room is quite small if you try to kill him only by ACB) but it is definately doable without much effort.