/v/ - Video Games

>>14575686

Looks fucking stupid. You'd have to take your thumb off the stick to use the directional buttons. Only redeeming quality is that you could put a condom on it and fuck yourself in the ass

I still remember when PS3 move flopped and /v/ cried.

>>14575696

You have to take your thumb off the stick to press controller face buttons in any set up, you retarded quadruple nignog.

>>14575707

Move>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KB+M

>>14575707

> /v/ cried.

Tears of laughter

>>14575686

That analog stick position on the black dildo is an ergonomic nightmare. It will put constant strain on your wrist and thumb. Better start saving for the surgery.

>>14575712

Yes, but you almost always have another analog stick operated by your other thumb to offset having to take your other thumb off the other. With this controller, you litterally only have one analog stick and have to take your thumb off it to press gay d-pad buttons.

>>14575707

>PS3 move flopped and /v/ cried.

All that I remember was /v/ praising Kevin Butler ads because Sony decided that burning a baby doll wasn't good way to sell PS3. Also, they are pushing the PS Move again for PS VR just not the PS Move Nav.

>>14575686

What the hell are you even trying to do? Just use mouse and keyboard or a fucking normal controller.

>>14575696

I considered buying that controller exclusively for this purpose. I already had a broken wiimote, but the shape is terrible, so it doesn't work. Motion controls are shit, but Sony did it better, because their controller seems to be good for at least one thing, unlike Nintendo's.

If you're going to make a bad controller, at least make sure that it's a good dildo replacement. Even better if it vibrates.

>>14575740

>Yes, but you almost always have another analog stick operated by your other thumb to offset having to take your other thumb off the other.

I'm pretty sure that the right analog stick does something different from the left analog stick so you'll still need to stop moving your character.

>>14575757

I used Joy2Key for VTM:B and it works because it doesn't have native controller support. It doesn't work as well.

I've experimented with this control scheme as well. It works really nicely for 3rd person action games where you have full manual control of the camera. The primary issues with this setup are:

- Lack of buttons on the left half of a controller.

- Many games don't support simultaneous Mouse+Gamepad input.

There's something called the Dark Souls Input Customizer I played with a while ago. It allowed more input customization than any game I've played before. You can set any arbitrary combination of keys for any action. This allowed me to work around the low button count to some extent by setting one of the controller buttons as a "shift" key. I wish more games would give you this level of flexibility for input customization.

On the hardware side, there simply needs to be more buttons. However, there is a limit on the number of additional buttons you can place on the controller, as having too many buttons will make the controller cumbersome to use. I'd say two extra buttons on the grip would be a good enough. An extra shoulder button also works quite well.

There's also this controller coming out in a month or two that's supposedly fully programmable that could help alleviate the low button count issue by programming in a shift functionality on the grip button.

>>14575686

>>14575774 pretty much hits the nail on the head. I think it can be intuitive to have the omni-directional movement of the left joystick alongside the precision of the mouse, but despite it being a pretty novel idea I can't imagine it actually working in too many scenarios due to lack of buttons on a wand versus the keyboard.

I actually had a Venom X, and I'd play Destiny with the wand and mouse, but the game was so bad that I never stuck around with it.

>>14575819

I always look at those and consider what the fuck I would ever need that many buttons for. I guess if you play WoW or something and you need a million macros? What's that thing on the side, a control stick? For what, movement? I guess it could work, leaving your other fingers free to tap on the different keys in high pressure situations, but I can't see myself personally getting much use out of these kinds of things. Maybe I'll get one just to try it for shits and giggles.

>>14575819

Couldn't you just get a cheap external numpad and just rebind the keys?

>>14575686

I was thinking of playing TY the Tasmanian tiger with a controller + mouse since it doesn't interrupt half way through like GTA 4 does.

>>14575807

Pretty much you're just limited to either creative layouts or games with limited inputs. I had a Naga for a period, I do not recommend, one of the worst mice I've ever had and the thumb grid was borderline useless, the thing randomly changed its tracking speed and if you had the polling rate too high it'd occasionally eat your whole CPU.

With Xpadder you can set toggles as well, so if you're not in high need of the joystick with specific inputs, for example, you can set up the dpad's directions to be 4 hotkeys, then BB+dpad for 4 more, and LT+dpad for 4 more, or you can set up cyclic sets that taps toggle through, though I found that to be pretty unreliable.

>>14575819

50/50. I had a Nostromo N50 I think it was, it's been a long time, it had a 3x5 grid of keys, a palm rest, a throttle, a thumb dpad, and a button by the dpad.

First problem is that it's hard to decide how to set the dpad up being that it's not sitting at a natural angle. I tried setting it so 'up' was forward and so that 'forward' was forward and neither felt right, I always found myself using the other tense moments and getting all screwed up, in the long run I never used the dpad.

The keys were plenty useful, and you could set up multiple key sets that could be toggled through or held with an assigned key or button to give you more hotkeys, kind of like shift/ctrl/alt sets, that worked well enough.

The throttle was useless in everything I tried it with.

In the long run just using a regular keyboard ended up working better, but if you're playing on a recliner or something I could see it being pretty useful to balance on the arm of the chair with less trouble than a whole keyboard.

The one I had had no problems with durability, I had it years though I didn't use it a huge amount.

>>14575819

I use something like the first pic related on your post when I play Chivalry and Mordhau

>>14575870

>Really curious about these fancy new trackballs.

My first Trackman Marble was back in the 90s. I used to play Doom2 and Quake. Eventually I switched back to mouse but I forget exactly why. I have a Nostromo N52 and seems like the Trackman would make a great companion, I'm too lazy to go buy one and try it out.

>>14575696

I injured my left index fingertip some months back and playing with keyboard was too painful, so I mainly kept to controller since the index finger doesn't use the tip for that. But playing FPS games with controller is AIDS so I controlled the movement with the controller in my left hand and aimed with the mouse. It was surprisingly natural. I'm glad I healed enough to use WASD again though.

>>14576404

>>14575819

Also on the orbweaver, I use the d-pad foor movement, which works great/feels much better then assigning it to keys WASD style, so they fixed whatever the issue the D-pad on the nostromo had >>14575903 mentions.

using a thumbstick to move a mouse sucks

t. someone who played several classic pc games on a windows 8 tablet with a wii remote/nunchuk

>>14577764

>using a thumbstick to move a mouse sucks

But OP is not doing that, he's using the controller as a replacement for the keyboard, he still uses the mouse.

>>14579093

No, I bought the the PS Move Nav on a sale. I don't know why people think that I want to aim with a controller.

>>14575686

>You just need to configure the "gamepad" to emulate keyboard and mouse.

But then you won't get analog movement on the thumbstick. It seems like the best of both worlds would be using a mouse to aim, and an analog stick to move. I dunno if any games support such a thing though.

>>14584508

It's for skipping turns in roguelikes. What else?

>>14584586

I was thinking that but why not just use the numpad?

>>14584553

Apparently, Overwatch somewhats supports it. For some reason, discussion of that control scheme increased with that game.

<New Controller option: Force Keyboard/Mouse User Interface

<Developer Comments: When PC players switch from using the Keyboard/Mouse to a game controller, the game’s user interface is dynamically updated to the console/controller version. Additionally, the button layout on many heroes (like Hanzo, Zenyatta, and Mercy) is different on console. In the past, when a player chose to play using a controller and a mouse, the UI would constantly switch, depending on which device was sending information to the game. This new option allows players to set a default user interface if they choose to use a controller along with a keyboard/mouse

>>14575795

Joy2Key is useful for flash games and stuff with fucked control configuration options, but since I've acquired almost every console ever made, I have little need for emulation or dicking around with controls.

>>14575716

That's like something out of a nightmare.

>>14587777

Unlike these quads