714482 No.14574715
So nice reminder Aya Brea is dead and gone.
>Japanese novel Parasite Eve released in 1995 by Hideaki Sena
>For some reason Squaresoft, while looking for ideas to prototype their new engine for FF7 after canning the N64 version for the new multi-disc Sony Playstation release pick up the rights to the book and make a sequel to it.
>Set in the christmas weekend of 1998 the neo mitochondrian lifeform Eve from the novel has infected another young woman who is now turning all of manhattans life into monsters are their Mitochonrdia takes control of their DNA.
>Is a blend of survival horror and jrpg, tried by other games like Koudelka but was much more popular for at the time amazing music, cutscenes and gameplay.
>To cash in on the RE craze PE2 became an RE clone thats okay till its final 'the formula says we need a secret lab' section shits the bed
>plan for a 10th anniversary game
>realise the IP rights were only for ten years. fug
>ps3 sequel canned and turned into a psp 3rd person shooter which they literally can no longer legally call parasite eve so its called 'the third birthday' instead
>is a hard reboot to distance itself from the copyrighted IP
>also bruteforced some lightning bullshit in it.
>came out 2 years late and is a creative mess
>ip now dead forever
>cannot rerelease the originals because they dont own the rights to all the novel tie in shit
>beloved game is now stuck in the past on retro hardware or emulation forever with no sequels or even a spiritual successor beyond vagrant story expanding on the gameplay.
Do you still care about Aya?
9bb3ad No.14574722
>tfw The Third Birthday was literally so terrible, Hideaki Sena refuses to ever give Square Enix the rights again
bb07d1 No.14574724
I’m glad we won’t be seeing a new game. I don’t trust Squeenix to not fuck up a remake or whatever it is they’d do. 3rd Birthday was enough. Aya Brea is a pure qt who will stay obscure.
e58e49 No.14574726
>Release a third game due to fan demand.
>'fans' shit on it for not using 20 year old game mechanics.
>"well I guess we won't make a 4th, shame"
5d60b8 No.14574741
>>14574726
fucking fans ruin everything
275856 No.14574742
>>14574726
IIRC, Square was just licensing the Parasite Eve property - and they lost the rights to it between PE 2 and 3rd Birthday, so third birthday ended up being a "not-really-Parasite Eve" game, which… surprise… the fans didn't really want.
714482 No.14574746
>>14574726
>If i say it on /v/ it becomes fact.
I don't know if you are actually lying or just making shit up like a sociopathic narcissist but save the disinfo for /pol/ m8.
PE3 was made purely because Post Crisis Core Nomura wanted to make a 'new Aya Brea' game for the ips anniversary. Originally it was to be an episodic mobile game distributed only in japan like the FF7 spin off games they got.
Instead it was reworked for the PSP after hiring on some Lost Planet devs to make Dirge of Cerberus who were looking to make another third person shooter for square.
The game was made with two ideas in mind "new york should be snowy" and "i want to see aya in a bloody wedding dress" they had no concrete ideas and are on record saying '2 wrapped up the story'.
Then they discovered they lost the rights and it became a story in an alt universe about another character just called 'aya' based on the little sister from PE that was a secret boss and not considered 'canon' and the whole game is about body jumping and secret conspiracies and has gears of war cover shooting with lock on shooting. It was a bad game and got forgotten.
There was no 'fan demand' for more until the first became a cult hit around the 2010's and the biggest complaint was the extreme personality change for all the characters. Your entire post is bunkum and horseshit.
9bb3ad No.14574749
>>14574741
>>14574726
>>14574742
I wonder who's behind these posts?
7d7508 No.14574750
6c96f2 No.14574784
>>14574742
From what I read, The 3rd Birthday was designed to do three things:
>1. Reimage the Parasite Eve series so that SquarEnix can continue it
<See Ubisoft with Assassin's Creed
>2. Continue/expand the story already established in the book, film, and the previous two games
>3. Bring newcomers into the series
<The one point that always results in failure
On top of that, none of the people in charge of the game actually had any involvement in the prior two titles (In fact, all of them were coming off of the FF and KH series). And, Nomura….
<Well…
5d60b8 No.14574786
>>14574746
>are on record saying '2 wrapped up the story'.
>mfw
>>14574750
2 can play the same game, anon-chan. (1)
024067 No.14574794
>>14574786
You're right he should've just called you a dumb faggot for blaming fans instead of the kikes that wanted to milk a franchise by releasing a shit tie in.
983867 No.14574795
>>14574715
What a shame, I wasn't aware of the licensing issues. I love PE1, and the first half of PE2. Then again, nu-square would only shit the bed if they tried to do a proper sequel or remake.
5c5c6e No.14574858
>>14574722
Probably for the best. I don't see SE not somehow making a 4th game even worse the last one.
a20702 No.14574894
>holding her gun sideways
What the fuck, Nomura?
983867 No.14574936
>>14574894
at least there isnt a single zipper, belt, or faggy piece of jewelry
1f2c32 No.14574987
Parasite Eve was never good.
e58e49 No.14574989
>>14574750
Here's your (you).
d9052b No.14575041
>>14574715
>Licensing shit
>Square Enix can't be arsed to resolve them
Fuck.
>>14574746
Wasn't Tabata working on the gameplay design of the 3rd Birthday as well while juggling Type-0 back then?
>>14574894
He was trying to make her Dante before Dante was a thing. It was his anime / FF7-8 phase. Then came the belt and zippers phase.
c5bc72 No.14575184
3rd birthday is easily my least favorite game of all time, and i'm still mad as hell that it exists
24144a No.14575225
>>14574715
>Do you still care about Aya?
I still care about the games. Parasites Eve 1&2 are really good games, but did not stand the test of time. Everything feels clunky and unintuitive to the point of frustration, but if you can get over that, the games are as good as ever.
Unlike most people, I actually really liked 3rd Birthday. The apocalyptic existential horror just worked for me. The campaign really felt like a futile battle for already lost cause, to save a lost world. Everyone shits on 3rdBD, I cannot see why. Some mechanics suck dick, but it's not a bad game.
c5bc72 No.14575247
>>14575225
>Everyone shits on 3rdBD, I cannot see why.
the writing was criminally bad, to the point where it felt like deliberate character assassination. the gameplay was mediocre in that it wasn't terrible but definitely wasn't great. there were so many plot holes, so many "but why" moments in the gameplay, that i just couldn't bring myself to feel anything but bitter hatred, especially since i loved pe1 and pe2 so much
f55046 No.14575250
>>14575225
i only saw a friend play it once and it was painfull to watch
the mechanics were duller than ever, gone was most of the rpg stuff the powers were shit and the emviroments where nothig than big empty rooms and copy pasted corridors
i still remeber soul the first and second had, the emviroments looked like people actually lived there third birthday looked as generic as drige of cerberus
d9052b No.14575257
>>14575225
Because the mechanics are shit for a PSP game. It's the reason Metroid Prime is utter shit on game cube but is fixed on the Trilogy, the controls aren't fit for what's happening.
If the PSP had two analogs it could work but it doesn't. It doesn't help that it has some of the late 00s SE leveling masturbation with damage sponges as enemies that frustrating. And the Overdrive emchanic was udnerwhelming by the end.
24144a No.14575342
>>14575250
>>14575247
>>14575257
Ok, fair points. But isn't the 3rdBD supposed to be a spinoff of sorts? If the game would be called PE3, that would be pretty fucking bad, since it's nothing like the original games.
I don't know if it was meant to be a sequel or a spinoff, but everything points to the latter.
I have always thought that the campy writing, shooter gameplay and stripped RPG mechanics are because it is not Parasite Eve3, but a action heavy spinoff. Maybe that is why I could enjoy it for what it is. I mostly play really old games, so clunky one analog PSP controls don't bother me that much.
6c96f2 No.14575445
>>14575225
>Parasites Eve 1&2 are really good games, but did not stand the test of time.
>Everything feels clunky and unintuitive to the point of frustration
How? I jumped right into the first game last year, being ignorant at the time and hating the entire RPG genre, and I found it to be a wonderful game. Actually, it made me wonder why I haven't seen anything since then attempt to repeat that gameplay. Haven't played the second so I cannot give an opinion on that, though.
>>14575250
>i still remeber soul the first and second had, the emviroments looked like people actually lived there third birthday looked as generic as drige of cerberus
That isn't really saying much since the environments in the first game were JPG images, but, still, you have games like Silent Hill which were developed in smaller budgets and with tighter constraints.
>>14575342
>I don't know if it was meant to be a sequel or a spinoff, but everything points to the latter.
Refer to this post: >>14574784
>Maybe that is why I could enjoy it for what it is. I mostly play really old games, so clunky one analog PSP controls don't bother me that much.
I play some older games myself, Anon, but…
<(First pic)…that doesn't excuse porting a game to the PSP, assigning the camera to the D-Pad, leaving the character controls assigned to the thumbstick, and having the camera reset behind the character every three seconds right after you get it at just the right angle.
I'm not sure if 3rd Birthday allows it, but the optimal controls when it comes to a TPS/FPS control scheme for systems such as the PSP, 3DS, and Dreamcast is to assign the camera to the D-pad and character movement to the control stick (Which just about every third-person title on the 3DS does do if you don't use the touch screen) or reverse it and require the player to learn how Southpaw controls work (Which is the option both Rainbow Six games took on the Dreamcast).
24144a No.14575469
>>14575342
Just to add.
Think how amazing it would have been if PE3 would have been done side to side with RE4. So that it could have been made in more serious in tone, since RE4 was more parody, PE3 could have stayed fully weird/bodyhorror.
Too bad this is the wrong timeline. Are there even any fangames?
97ebd2 No.14575475
There's so much blatant pro 3rd Birthday shilling in this thread that I assume a PC port must be coming out soon.
6c96f2 No.14575479
>>14575469
>Think how amazing it would have been if PE3 would have been done side to side with RE4. So that it could have been made in more serious in tone, since RE4 was more parody, PE3 could have stayed fully weird/bodyhorror.
<Came out two months after RE4
6c96f2 No.14575487
>>14575445
>assign the camera to the FACE BUTTONS
Fuck, didn't know how I missed that.
821f71 No.14575491
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>Not one single mention of the OST yet
Fucking what? This is my favorite map screen music, absolutely perfect for a Cyberpunk style setting without lazily resorting to that done to death neo-80s sound.
c5bc72 No.14575640
>>14575445
>haven't played the second
you really, really should. it's great
a69849 No.14575687
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
The game not having sequels made by current Square is a good thing.
The original must b forever untouched, good as it is.
>>14574726
The demand was for the 20 year old mechanics, that are superior to current mechanics and more fun.
Companies must always obey the fans of a franchise.
>>14575225
It is shit. As is your taste.
>>14575491
The main theme is wonderful.
It really sets the premise.
cc83af No.14575706
>>14575257
>It's the reason Metroid Prime is utter shit on game cube but is fixed on the Trilogy, the controls aren't fit for what's happening.
I'm curious why you think this as while Prime 3 works with the wii-mote. Prime 1&2 don't additionally benefit because the games weren't designed with free-aiming in mind. I don't think I've ever heard a complaint about the GC Prime games controls outside of maybe issues with lockon.
They are very solid controls given the lack of a second analog stick to aim yourself and instead having to use R+Left Control.
773b72 No.14575747
I love New York games, even though I wouldn't personally wouldn't travel within a hundred mile radius of the city. Parasite Eve, Max Payne, Deus Ex…
24144a No.14575758
>>14575479
Looks like it's time to PCSX2 that shit up.
I'm probably in for a pretty bad disappointment, but who cares. Thanks dude.
6c96f2 No.14575760
>>14575758
The game also came out for PC.
92ebc5 No.14575766
>>14574715
>plan for a 10th anniversary game
I'm not sure how much planning they actually did. The whole project felt like they shit it out because some suit noticed that they had a bunch of unused assets lying around.
ba6447 No.14575770
I loved the game but I never beat it. I was stuck on the final boss for a while, then my stepdad stole my memory card and sold it for drugs. Didn't have the heart to play through again.
121640 No.14575808
>>14574715
I played through the whole first game just a couple months ago, it was very enjoyable, aged surprisingly well. The second one is still a mess, The Third Birthday still has its ups and is still a confusing mess. Standard Square Screwjob/10.
>>14574722
It wasn't because it was terrible, it was because they just changed the title and a few minor plotpoints and claimed it was Original The Game™ when it's actually a stolen IP.
24144a No.14575812
>>14575760
Sweet. Now I can cancel the ps2 download. The game looks great. Special Unit catch22 here I come.
>>14575445
I must be a mirror universe version of you or something, since PE 1&2 controls felt terrible at first, and it took quite a few fights to get used to them. Anyway once used to, they work great and add a lot to the many, many bossfights.
In 3rdB I didn't even notice the camera being shit most of the time. I must have played it completely differently from most of you guys. I remember there being really sticky "autofocus" button, which I used constantly - that might be it. It's been awhile.
ef7aec No.14575817
While both the first and second games are stellar, for me PE2 edges out the first due to great replay value. Need to beat the game two more times to get the last two ranks for all the bonus items. I love all the settings, Arkopolis Tower, Dryfield (Comfy desert aesthetic), and the Shelter/Neo Ark. Weapons actually feel good to shoot, and have lots of variety, especially due to different ammo types. The OST, while not as thematic as the first game, really nails the atmosphere. I bought the 3rd birthday second hand for really cheap, haven't had the heart to play it since I know it'll be bad.
300d39 No.14575826
>>14574715
I think it's for the best. Just look how Squeenix bastardized Secret of Mana, for example. As hopeful as I could be for the FF7 remake I can't help but be worried regardless.
Also, small detail: The PE engine was the proto FF8 engine, not 7's. First release copies had the demo for it, IIRC.
d0b5b5 No.14575830
>>14575817
>the first due to great replay value
The best part is that even 10 playthrough in you'll still find shit you didn't know.
Like the pepper spray being a boss killing tool.
74a861 No.14575840
Whats stopping Square from just buying the rights to the book again?
also i came here for pictures of Aya and i am thoroughly dissapointed
121640 No.14575872
>>14575840
They essentially stole the third game's story, characters/settings etc. when they released it with minor edits after losing the rights resulting in the author of the books denying them ever using the IP again. Basically they kiked themselves out of them. Also, if Squeenix ever accuses you of copyright theft if you get caught pirating anything of theirs, just change the title of the game's exe, that should be sufficient to meet their moral standings on the subject.
a69849 No.14575882
>>14575770
Sucks to be you.
Kill yourself.
8392f6 No.14575926
>>14575872
>>14575840
Squeenix are a bunch of retards when it comes to copyright, there's this Manga called High Score Girl that was on hiatus because SNK and their chink masters threatened to sued them if they didn't pay up or change all previous mentions of King of Fighters, Samurai Showdown and ect, they chose to do the latter.
d9052b No.14576114
>>14575342
Don't get me wrong, it is a spin-off due to lost licenses etc but the base mechanics and ideas don't work on the PSP and the RPG mechanics aren't well implemented. This isn't so much a problem of whether or not the game is a spin-off or not, they are shodilly implemented.
>>14575706
It's not so much the lock-on as much as how the buttons are mapped on the GC controller with what Prime 1 and 2 wants you to do. I'd take the trade-off of the awful Wii switching of visors and beams in order to have proper control of Samus cannon.
ba6447 No.14576533
>>14575882
Thanks anon but I'm doing just fine these days, that was a long time ago.
ae08d6 No.14576812
>>14575812
I played the original xbox version some time ago and it's not that bad. It's also not that great either. it may or may not end in what is essentially a quick time event
812910 No.14576831
>>14574715
It ended right where it had to. PE2 was almost too much frankly.
I've never played the third birthday since it looks pretty mediocre.
491aec No.14576860
>>14576831
I found 3rdB to be pretty fun, at least as far as third person shooters on the PSP go. It had a few neat, light RPG elements. The only issue is the complete clusterfuck of a story, though it did nail the "hopeless apocalypse" feel pretty well, but that can't make up for the ruining of Aya's character.
cc83af No.14577093
>>14576114
>It's not so much the lock-on as much as how the buttons are mapped on the GC controller with what Prime 1 and 2 wants you to do.
I've always thought that the much faster switching between visors/beams was better than using a rotary menu. Just a flick of a switch and I'm pumping plasma over wave beam.
082435 No.14577183
It'll also be pic related's anniversary this year. The soundtrack is still god tier to this day imo.
a69849 No.14577518
>>14576533
Still sucks to be you.
>>14575926
that is also called "greed".
They don't want to spend money to make the product better or to keep it good.
They just want it to be made and sold to as many mindless living carcasses as possible.
>>14577183
True.
And the gameplay is also great. It really stood out at the time.
You can see that Square was at their highest in that period, with every single game made by them being good. Their current teams are worthless.
b1c65e No.14577651
>>14575225
Oh yeah anon it wasn't bad. It was a fucking nuclear meltdown that took a severe shit on the whole stories and character development and decided to toss it out with the major 'no fucks given' to it all. Also the gameplay mechanics is a fucking mess.
491aec No.14577685
>>14577651
To be fair by then SE had lost the rights to the book and couldn't use any of it anymore. Not that this excuses the nonsensical plot they came up with.
Also, why do all SE games in the past 10 years (and more) have plots that make no fucking sense? I'd rather they just did some cliche bullshit than let loose with their narrative experiments.
798c2e No.14583539
>>14577685
Probably because without Sakaguchi, Kazushige Nojima goes bonkers without anyone stopping him and Nomura only encourages that behaviour. But even then, they are the lesser of all evils given what happened with Toriyama and his vision and how much they chopped shit up in various other games.
<Taro not included since his storylines have to not make sense, it's why DoD was conceived
Think about that : Nomura and Nojima are the lesser offenders of storytelling within SE right now. Gooch leaving was a heavy blow. But that's not the worst of it. What's really mindfucking is how much the ((localizations)) butcher to make all SE stories make even less sense than they already made in the first place and become truly alien pieces of vidya.
6c96f2 No.14583585
>>14583539
What poor game is that taken from?
798c2e No.14583801
>>14583585
Final Fantasy Type-0. The joke is that this is a moogle, a creature that is cuddly and cute in FF yet in the edgy, grimdark world of Type-0, the moogle it tries to be a badass since he's asigned to then highest class. Needless to say, he just looks goofy but the students like it and since he's the typical tryhard lovable goof, he has a rivalry with Class Zero since they are now top dog.
f42c9a No.14583909
>>14575808
For the love of God I NEED to see the comments for that post.
Please anon.
0c2fbd No.14584666
>And Nomura…
>Implying
That's Toriyama, the slightly less successful Nomura Considering they both highjacked the company from under their predecessor's feet by ass kissing . If you're going to hate him, do it honestly Raziel
0c2fbd No.14584673
ce6e63 No.14584689
I thought the 1st title was top 5 PS1 game. I thought the 2nd title was a step in an unnecessary step into a Capcom direction but I liked the game nonetheless. I never played the third because it was largely panned and mercilessly mocked on /v/.
Is there ever a future for this franchise other than a sure successful Parasite Eve 1 & 2 remaster combo?
c5bc72 No.14584858
>>14584689
if squeenix had a brain in their head i'd say PE definitely had a future, because really it's just one well-written RE4 clone away from being relevant again. but since it's square all we're ever going to get are sad reminders and maybe, if we're really unlucky, some mobileshit or a cameo in FFXVI or something
b253bc No.14584874
>>14574722
Even though 3rd Birthday didn't follow the model for older games it was pretty good for a hand held, weapon swapping was really fluid and fun.
d0b5b5 No.14584877
>>14584689
>Is there ever a future for this franchise other than a sure successful Parasite Eve 1 & 2 remaster combo?
None, best you can expect is some fan project
8501e7 No.14584882
>>14583585
Official English script of Final Fantasy Type-0 HD. Thankfully the fan-translation of the original PSP version exists and was released just before Square tried to hit the guys with a C&D because they smelled blood in the water and wanted some shekels with an HD release that they'd bring west this time.
Funny thing is that, if you're unaware, Moogles have had a long standing gender neutral pronoun (at least in the western scripts for the games prior), "Mog", so the change to "ze zi zo zum" tier ones screams of a tumblr script editor making changes of their own.