/v/ - Video Games

No, I don't play shit games OP so I'd never bother in the first place.

>>14570261

LOL

KYS

>>14570289

>its shit

>but I've never bothered to play it

Tell me more

Quality thread after quality thread, I sure love 8ch /v/

Why would you ever use a bow? At least with magic you have an excuse because of all the cool shit you can do, with bows you're too pussy to use a blade and you're uninteresting too.

>>14570293

I've played it, that's how I know it's shit. I'd never play it again because it is shit. Kill yourself for being a faggot who plays furry games by the way.

>>14570312

Why would I play a game that does stealth archery worse?

>>14570310

Tell me more, anon.

>>14570309

You can have both. Daggerfall isn't casual enough for you to regen SP by sitting still, so mainlining as nothing but a mage isn't easy. Not impossible, especially with enchanted equipment, but still not easy.

>>14570251

Just play Morrowind and stop pretending you like obsolete games.

>>14570339

Morrowind doesn't do half the things Daggerfall does.

>>14570376

I'm glad it doesn't

>>14570395

>morrowfag reveals himself

Is liking Morrowind the vidya equivalent of having a tiny penis? Small game = small penis?

>>14570429

>is liking haggardfall the vidya equivalent of wearing problem glasses?

No, but trying that hard to turn the name of the game into lame jokes probably makes you a faggot

>>14570586

Anyone who exploits that is a faggot. I give my stealth characters all kinds of limitations, like not being able to wear plate, or use other weapon types.

>>14570339

>Morrowind

Oh boy I sure do love combat where I miss randomly 80 times with no feedback. At least Oblivion and even Skyrim have actually passable melee combat.

>>14570383

>>14570419

>>14570469

What got deleted?

>>14570636

>it's another waaah I couldn't hit the mudcrab and quit playing poster

>>14570646

I gave the game 5 hours to grab me and it was still crap then.

>>14570641

Weak attempts at insulting me that I humored. It got deleted?

>>14570650

>5 hours in and still kept missing

>>14570651

>It got deleted?

Apparently so. I'll openly admit to not having played Daggerfall how does it compare to Morrowind?

>>14570658

I was mostly meming the missing started to go away but the feeling of just swinging at thin air remained. The lack of feedback made me think I might as well be playing something turn based. Add onto that the fact that most of the game I did was walking around in a bland world with extremely repetitive dungeons and I really didn't get the appeal. Good music, interesting setting and crap gameplay.

>>14570654

>banned for 24 hours

Ouch.

>>14570659

More skills (albeit a handful are almost useless language skills, unless you want to be pacifist)

Larger world

More factions

More quests (albeit a recycled and often unrealistic, like having to get a gem off of a fellow thieves guild member who's hiding in a tavern with the guards waiting 34 days to go in and check him for the gem they suspect him of having)

Can climb walls, fly, quick travel, buy homes, buy ships (a glorified home really, unless quick traveling across the bay), buy a horse, buy a wagon (that holds shit, and is necessary for all the loot you find), create brokenly OP spells, create brokenly OP enchanted artifacts

Really too much to name.

There are many things Morrowind has in common, but slowly trudging around really makes morrowind take too long to get into for me. Even if I spend two hours in one dungeon of Daggerfall on a meaningless quest, I'm killing/looting/exploring that dungeon and I don't have to spend thirty minutes trudging from one strider spot to the location I want like in Morrowind

>>14570679

I'm conflicted, on one hand I didn't give a shit, and on the other maybe anon will improve his bait a little

>>14570682

I guess I'll give it a shot then. I never really liked Morrowind but it seems like Daggerfall might be a better overall game.

>>14570682

>>14570709

Daggerfall isn't any better it's just preferred because /v/ likes the less popular game and Morrowind is too well known.

>>14570709

If you do, make sure you say no to the tutorial, it's not necessary and quite buggy.

>>14570721

I've seen more anons slobbing Morrowind's knob than the other way around. The only thing I really don't like about it is as I said, it's a slow trudge. Even starting out in Daggerfall you can run like 30mph, and with basic climbing skill climb over most obstacles.

>>14570251

That's obviously a screenshot of Deer Hunter 2. You can't fool me.

>>14570251

That is some really awesome spritework.

Your archer kind of looks like the guy from Nocturne in Yellow.

>>14570682

> Larger world

Only people who cares about this are kids who like to brag about Daggerfall's map being bigger than Great Britain.

Nobody cares: the map is boring and random.

Good luck trying to take a pretty picture of Daggerfall landscape.

> More factions

I can't distinguish a faction from the other. Wasn't a problem by then but today we're used to every faction being very different in terms of type of quests, rewards, buildings and characters, etc.

> Can climb walls,

That was cool.

> fly,

Kinda stupid but whatevs

>quick travel,

FORTUNATELY

> buy homes,

Can't see a reason why you'd like to have more than one home.

> buy ships (a glorified home really, unless quick traveling across the bay),

Ships that could sail right into the desert and deliver you safely into the highest mountains.

Ships didn't work as intended.

> buy a horse,

Didn't properly work either. It was just a way to toggle RUN mode. Horse magically teleported whenever you needed it.

> buy a wagon (that holds shit, and is necessary for all the loot you find),

This was was well done. You were carrying the wagon everywhere except when spelunking. I liked the concept of putting the wagon outside the dungeon so you could forget about being encumbered.

> create brokenly OP spells, create brokenly OP enchanted artifacts

Reminds me of what happened in Oblivion when crafting equipment that together gave you 100% of chameleon. TL;DR: you broke the game because nobody could ever attack you.

> Really too much to name.

Game was interesting and can hold the attention of some hardcore enthusiasts but most of its elements don't pass the test of time. Only since Morrowind they managed to conciliate a world that could be seen instead of only imagining. i.e., cities that were actually different, for starters (instead of cities that were composed of identical blocks/chunks that you kept recognizing everywhere. Same for dungeons).

>>14570838

>>Only people who cares about this are kids

>>Good luck trying to take a pretty picture of Daggerfall landscape

Only a kid would want to take pretty pictures of virtual landscape.

>>I can't distinguish a faction from the other. Wasn't a problem by then but today we're used to every faction being very different in terms of type of quests, rewards, buildings and characters, etc.

The thieves guild is located in homes, have wildly different NPCs inside, that serve wildly different functions. Fighters guilds you can sleep in, have equipment repaired in. Mages guilds have a shit load of different NPCs offering wildly different services. Temples and Knight Orders are pretty lack luster, but they are also very different from those guilds.

>>Kinda stupid but whatevs

>I-i didn't want to fly anyway

>>Can't see a reason why you'd like to have more than one home.

Then only get one, or even none. I rarely buy one myself.

>>Ships that could sail right into the desert and deliver you safely into the highest mountains.

>>Ships didn't work as intended.

Technically ships are only used for crossing the bay, so you are imaging a ship sailing across land on your own. It's just a toggle on quick travel

>>Didn't properly work either. It was just a way to toggle RUN mode. Horse magically teleported whenever you needed it.

Yeah the horse being wherever you needed it isn't realistic, but it wasn't to toggle run mode. Actually with high enough speed and running you can outrun a horse easily.

>Reminds me of what happened in Oblivion when crafting equipment that together gave you 100% of chameleon. TL;DR: you broke the game because nobody could ever attack you.

I've had jewelry that healed me on one wrist, and one that made me completely invisible on another (just to name two)

>>Only since Morrowind they managed to conciliate a world that could be seen instead of only imagining. i.e., cities that were actually different, for starters (instead of cities that were composed of identical blocks/chunks that you kept recognizing everywhere. Same for dungeons)

Cities do vary somewhat. For example cities in desert regions of Hammerfell are not like the ones in Daggerfall. Also, what good are Morrowind's cities when you have to trudge slowly around them?

>>14570852

This is true, unfortunately. Never enter a dungeon without recall/mark

>>14570852

>Not being able to into the 3D map

>Implying it's not superior

If you're lost, just head back home to Skyrim.

>>14570894

<when you have to trudge slowly around them?

>he didn't max walking speed

>he didn't find a place to bank his crap to keep his character's weight down

you can run really fast in MW if you try

There is a daggerfall thread up already. Why not just use that one?

>>14571923

That thread had less to do with Daggerfall and more to do with shit.

>>14570335

>so mainlining as nothing but a mage isn't easy

Rubbish. Magic is about as broken as it is in Morrowind! The only trouble you might have is in the starter dungeon. After that you can spend a few weeks leveling up in an inn with a training spell (destruction can be done by repeatedly casting the starting spell then cancelling it) then replace all spells with variants that increase in power from your character level alone.

As for what to make, mark (I think it's cheaper than the circinate spell), absorb/reflect/resist (stops magic which is a serious threat to any character, also provides you a way to restore MP), shield (absorbs physical damage like a separate life bar), open, the usual array of elemental spells on-touch or in an area, identify, combined water walking/breathing and free action (extremely cheap at high and something you generally want always active). Unlike Morrowind all effects are available from a spellmaker so just look and be creative.

>>14570604

Yeah you can min/max with it but fuck that noise if you're playing a mage you're already gonna win. Alternatively one time I tried making a merchant to get all of the monies then get bored and go adventuring.

>>14570682

>not making jump spells or super-powerful speed potions

Doing it wrong.

>>14570838

Oblivion's magic system can be broken more creatively than that.

>>14570900

Keep a rolling save system too. Because sometimes things go wrong. I've had quest targets trapped in statues before.

The best part of Daggerfall was ultimately how fucking random and lost you could get in those dungeons. You could literally spend a couple hours trying to find some quest piece while once in a while hearing a lich or something that could fuck you up so fast you wouldn't have time to run away. It was an awesome, amazing and scary experience.

>>14570586

>A (1) (((poster))) shills yet again that dead board.

Be a little less obvious faggot.

>>14570289

Kill yourself.

>>14570251

You know someone's porting it into Unity?

>>14570295

As if 4cuck is any better.

>>14572170

No, that thread died when I shot down the flimsy criticisms that trolls were making. So they started a new one. You can go there and actually talk about Daggerfall because the faggots are here now.