3d1a69 No.14562859
>TF2 updated yesterday
>No thread
Fags
https://archive.fo/fzswV
Key Points:
>FLAME-THROWER nerfed/buffed. Flame damage per second now ramps up based on density of flame encountered, up to 200%. Initial flame damage per second reduced by 50%.
>DRAGON'S FURY nerfed. Fireball radius reduced, bonus damage now requires a dead-on shot to the hit-box
>THERMAL THRUSTER buffed. Holster time reduced
>SYDNEY SLEEPER nerfed. No longer sprays piss on full charge head-shot
>AXETINQUISHER retooled. Attacks mini-crit and then extinguish burning targets. Receives a damage bonus based on the remaining duration of after-burn. Added: "Sketchek's Bequest: Killing blows on burning players grant a speed boost". Base damage reduced by 33%. Holster speed 35% slower.
>SHORT-CIRCUIT retooled. Alt-fire attack changed to launch a medium-range, projectile-destroying energy ball. Requires 65 metal.
>MATCHMAKING UPDATED. System finally takes skill into account when choosing matches.
>AUTOBALANCE UPDATED. System now selects best candidates from opposing team for autobalance. Candidates can ask their team for volunteers to switch over in their place. No volunteers means the candidate will switch over upon death. If a candidate doesn't die within a reasonable amount of time, then they'll be forcibly switched.
>Added ctf_sawmill, ctf_well, cp_5gorge, ctf_2fort_invasion, and ctf_foundry to Casual Mode
6a6976 No.14562868
>tf2
who cares? Why should anyone care?
576a8a No.14562872
This shit isn't worth a thread. Go back to cuck/v/.
7b0163 No.14562873
people here still play tf2?
f3130a No.14562876
>>14562873
people here still play games?
8da41c No.14562883
b71adc No.14562900
>>14562859
>they still refuse to bring back the old Axtinguisher
>even now that every fucking class has a way of dealing with afterburn and the Pyro in general is complete ass
0488ef No.14563018
>>14562876
not on /v/ at least thanks to mark. most people who care about quality have left for /vg/ which stands for Video Games now.
d4ee60 No.14563022
Shit, this sounds actually goo-
>That DF nerf
Are you actually telling me they didn't fix the speed of fire, the fact that it doesn't self damage or arc like a fireball would if it came out of a canon with contact near walls? It was basically the Pyro's broken ass direct-hit.
The Axetinguisher actually sounds decent now- attack foes you've set on fire the longest for a working puff and sting- is effectively useless on lesser classes but perfect for long overhealed enemies- is now a way to punish Medic Pockets.
3d1a69 No.14563158
>Fixed being able to load the Beggar's Bazooka with rockets and then spam the inspect key to hold the loaded rockets until ready to fire them
Fucking solider mains.
e1c88d No.14563205
>>14562859
>Fixed the "-40% health from healers" penalty on The Fists of Steel (it wasn't active)
8eddca No.14563216
>hat trading simulator
>game
c03a83 No.14563292
>>14563257
yaassss memequeen slaaayyy
x
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d626bb No.14563315
>no thread
Because nobody plays this shit anymore.
d4ee60 No.14563372
>Fixed a case where Engineer buildings could be placed such that players would become stuck when exiting a teleporter (a.k.a. "teleporter trap")
END
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FUCKING
ERA
79ec5a No.14563450
Why the fuck do they keep nerfing pryo?
You lack the mobility/range of a scout and afterburn is such a joke now it doesn't cause half the chaos it once did. Being able to delete people with the degreaser flaregun/reserve shooter/axetinguisher was the best shit and felt fair with how fucking easy pyros were to deal with. Hell soldier still has a ton of launchers that make airbladting projectiles back hard to impossible.
Is the game literally just balanced around entire teams of soldiers and demos with how much love they get?
8711f0 No.14563480
>>14562859
>calling people fags for not caring about TF2
Get out nigger
c88ecb No.14563570
>>14563308
>>14563257
You are what you call others.
6e077c No.14563607
You’re surprised no one cares about a mediocre relic?
a02938 No.14563631
>Matchmaking still exists
Who gives a shit about tf2 anymore
5cbe01 No.14563706
>>14563450
>game that's literally over a decade old has been unbalanced to shit by the devs who can't stop meddling even though it should have been abandonware 3 years ago
They're trying to chase you away, take a hint
dce6b9 No.14563733
>>14562859
Let go, anon.
Let. Go.
241b7f No.14563776
>SYDNEY SLEEPER nerfed. No longer sprays piss on full charge head-shot
This is the kind of patch note you take out of context and it's brilliant.
5cbe01 No.14563976
>>14563873
I had fun with TF2, before they added hats and all the extra shit. Then I had some fun shitposting about changes and retarded idlers. Then they just kept adding shit and kept adding shit and it got stupid, and I stopped playing. That was 5 fucking years ago. I have no idea what's gone on recently but I seriously doubt it's worth my attention. I just don't care anymore and moved on to other games. I can't fathom how anyone still has a genuine interest in TF2.
cec936 No.14563999
>>14563976
>I can't fathom how anyone still has a genuine interest in TF2.
Maybe I kill people too fast that I don't see what gun they're using? Because, y'know, I'm good at the game and shit? And it's a fun game?
aea2dd No.14564141
>>14563018
>not on /v/ at least thanks to mark. most people who care about quality have left for /vg/ which stands for Video Games now.
You faggots actually believe this.
1cd7ff No.14564410
Everything with all the dumb faggots itt who can't ignore a fucking thread? Your whining is cancer.
I was just complaining about not having an excuse to get back on TF2 yesterday. Pretty excited to try the new rank system in matchmaking.
d25101 No.14564455
TL;DR accidental fun removed
c03a83 No.14564465
>>14564410
>double memespacing
He's going all out!
194da0 No.14564642
>>14562859
>SYDNEY SLEEPER nerfed. No longer sprays piss on full charge head-shot
wasn't that the entire point of that weapon? Why would anyone use it if it's just a weaker version of the sniper rifle with no beneficial traits?
>>14563999
Wasted trips. You speak like a highschooler.
d6ccfd No.14564657
>>14564141
He didn't meant 8chan's /vg/.
8711f0 No.14564718
>>14563873
>Are you still salty that TFC never took off?
I don't want to play that shit either you stinky retard nigger
e80ccf No.14564727
Where's all this salt coming from
7e2d13 No.14564746
>>14564657
How's that malware treating ya son?
d1b5b4 No.14564779
The only thing I enjoy anymore on tf2 is deathrun and micspamming, and I haven't played in years
304929 No.14564913
>>14564642
If it still can't do headshots it means that the sniper using it is relegated to just painting single targets in piss and maybe shooting down those at low health. Alternatively he can just use any other rifle and not be a liability.
8adeae No.14564993
>>14562859
This is like when faggots spam /tv/ with mundanematt videos and RLM when /tv/ shits on both.
Also if that's a real update then it's clear Rob is following the late-WoW model of nerf fucking everything until you're chasing down other classes that you made powerful not through buffs but by nerfs. It's like when you upset an ecosystem by listening to an animal rights group who has no idea how nature works.
5b6e72 No.14564995
>people still care about tf2
>after they nerfed all the fun shit and ruined community servers and quickplay
c23cf2 No.14565020
>they finally removed teletrapping
and with that the last bit of fun you could still eek out of this game is gone
5b6e72 No.14565061
I don't know why i decided to read this.
The only thing these patches do to the game now is ruin it more and more and make me angry.
I don't even play this game anymore and i'm still pissed at this.
64b9e2 No.14565649
>>14565629
>butthurt autists who think they are too cool to care about a game
You just described about 90% of /v/.
761e29 No.14565661
>>14565629
No need of rebuttals, anon.
Anons just don't like it.
a02938 No.14565666
>>14565661
>>14565629
Sure we'd say it was never good, because then it wouldn't hurt so much about how shit it is now.
e80ccf No.14565779
Still waiting for a sniper nerf. Remove charged shots and have headshot do mini-crit damage instead one-offing all classes with a single (charged) headshot.
7c2d66 No.14565818
So kids let us take a moment for things to sink in.
Pyro
>All flamethrowers nerfed to prevent close quarters AoE
>Dragon fury projectile has been made smaller and harder to use, too easy they say
>Gas Passer now 100% pointless when every other secondary and primary does it's job better
>Axtinguisher slightly improved and has a cringe inducing reference to a dead pyro player
>The only buff is a pathetically minor increase to a useless item's drawing speed
Sniper
>Less rewards for headshots on a weapon after it just go a bonus effect on headshot
>Also pointless piss recharge
Engineer
>Short circuit made objectively worse and now seems borderline unusable for it's intended purpose as at full metal you get 3 pops and will destroy about 3 rockets
Scout
>Reverted change because good players were just too dang good
>Atomizer change is made to matter
Multiclass
>Panic attack is way more usable
All in all
<Whaaaaa pyro too op plz nerf
>Soldier still does everything the dragon fury did but better with less aiming required and more range
<What why can't my rocket spam kill this engi?!
>Time to make engineer's only defense against rocket and sticky spam even more metal draining than just tanking them
<Pros are too good!
>Time to make it worse, just like the base jumper
<My heavy keeps coating me in piss!
>Well ok I don't think you died from it but we'll change it for you
Soldier will never be nerfed or called out for being the most broken class in the game. But man the second another class can deny them or even DARE to approach their level of universal applicability and ease of use they shall be face the nerf bat.
7c2d66 No.14565833
>>14565818
(Also lets just ignore pyro is being hit with nerfs right after the update all about him)
c23cf2 No.14565917
>>14565818
>>All flamethrowers nerfed to prevent close quarters AoE
Flamethrowers weren't nerfed, they were fixed. They have functional focus fire now, and also require the mental capacity of a seaslug, a marked improvement.
The problem was that focus fire was not necessary (and functionally didn't exist), and simply hitting someone with any amount of flame at all would deal maximum damage. Holding Mouse1 and twitching wildly and insanely in every direction was the objectively best way to deal damage against any target. It made Pyro even more braindead than ever imagined, because the classic Pyro Panic Button became the actual, factual best combat strategy. Violent spasms should not be the most viable form of damage output.
>>14565833
Don't be stupid. Nerfing Pyro is exactly what was expected to happen after the new Pyro update. The only surprise is it took them nearly half a year.
16949a No.14565929
>SYDNEY SLEEPER nerfed. No longer sprays piss on full charge head-shot
I didn't even know the sydney sleeper sprayed piss….that's how useful that gun is.
16949a No.14565943
>>14565818
>Soldier will never be nerfed or called out for being the most broken class in the game.
Except you're forgetting something very important
e1d836 No.14565956
>>14565929
It was fucking made with the intent of making snipers with bad aim (read: who haven't learned the meta of hitboxes) still useful to their team by allowing them to coat enemies in jarate from far away
so now snipers with bad aim will either coat enemies in piss like they always do or get a lucky headshot, or maybe it doesn't headshot and it just fails to piss on them when they shoot someone's head who the fuck knows
5b6e72 No.14565983
All the faggots ITT calling for nerfs is the exact reason why tf2 is so shit these days.
Fuck nerfs, i want to do stupid fun shit in the game and caring about balance is reddit tier
e80ccf No.14566019
>>14565983
Then play overwatch faggot. Being in disadvantage to absolute retards who only know to w+m1 or tryhard snipers instantly killing everyone a light year away from the comfort of their camps isn't fun at all.
>>14565983
ca23bc No.14566041
>>14565629
If you want a "historical high point" then play Team Fortress Classic/Fortress Forever, anon you fucking faggot.
27378f No.14566045
>>14563450
Because the soldier faggots keep crying.
Waah the ambush class does too much damage if a bunch of people get stuck together in a small space nerf it!
Like how they nerfed the fuck out of the ambassador because you can pop soldiers with it
e80ccf No.14566060
>>14565818
>Short circuit made objectively worse and now seems borderline unusable for it's intended purpose as at full metal you get 3 pops and will destroy about 3 rockets
It destroys every single projectile in its path dipshit. That means negating all rocket/grenade spam thrown with a single shot. You're supposed to be close to a dispenser/cart and ammo boxes like a non-retarded engie.
e80ccf No.14566067
>>14566045
>>14563450
>waahhhh i cant play like an absolute retard and win like i used to not fair
5b6e72 No.14566069
e80ccf No.14566075
>>14566069
coming from a whiner who complains about fairness and game balance. how about you git gud instead you shit pyro main.
27378f No.14566077
>>14566067
Listen faggot, the flamethrower is literally designed to spray fire all over the place like a retard when you manage to get close quarters to people, nerfing it for being used literally in the way it is meant to be used is retarded.
5b6e72 No.14566083
>>14566075
>implying i main anything
>implying pyro
>not realizing that pyro was buffed
You're a special kind of retard.
e80ccf No.14566089
>>14566077
>when you manage to get close quarters to people
Which is all the fucking time now with the thermal thruster. you can still play retarded if you want, just don't expect to be over-rewarded for it anymore.
e80ccf No.14566094
>>14566083
God you're a fucking moron.
27378f No.14566095
>>14566089
>pyro gets one rocket jump with no airstrafe and increased pushforce from all sources and can't even attack during the process
>Flamethrower is suddenly OP
You wanna know how I know you haven't played pyro at all and just looked at what was added?
fd6809 No.14566104
>>14562873
Are you surprised we have shit taste faggots here? We even have fucking mobiletrash threads.
5b6e72 No.14566110
>>14566095
nigga, the pyro can easily rush the shit out of any position now with the backburner + jetpack
>can't attack in the process
He can swap off of it, dumbass.
They even reduced the time to make it even more easy to do this.
>You wanna know how I know you haven't played pyro at all
Have you? ffs, i remember when the orignal update dropped and all i was doing was jetpacking up to battlements and fucking with the entire enemy team.
27378f No.14566112
>>14566110
>He can swap off of it, dumbass.
So you haven't used it? Fucking retard. If you're going to try to lie at least don't lie with the easiest shit to disprove.
e80ccf No.14566113
>>14566095
You know holster time has been reduced, and that you can switch to flamethrower in the air so that you land ready to attack
>>14566100
What am I supposed to reply to in this shitstain of a post you made. it's not even coherent >>14566083
5b6e72 No.14566116
>>14566112
>easiest shit to disprove.
>weapon switching suddenly doesn't exist
wew.
e80ccf No.14566120
>>14566112
what the fuck is wrong with your brain
God
legit kill yourself.
27378f No.14566130
>>14566116
There's an animation you have to commit to every time you use it, which lasts a good amount of time into the jump which may I remind you during which you have no way of even dealing damage unless you directly land on someone's head with it out. (unlike the mantreads.)
7972ab No.14566141
>>14565983
>caring about balance is reddit tier
This might be the dumbest shit I've read all day.
5b6e72 No.14566153
>>14566130
That's the fucking problem dumbass.
THEY'RE BUFFING THAT
It now takes LESS Time then it did before.
Also, the amount of distance covered by using the jetpack vastly out weights the amount of time it takes to switch weapons.
Meaning you'd have an easier time jet packing straight towards an enemy then walking straight and holding m1.
It also allows pyros to close distance between them and their target easier even if that target is blast jumping to a vertical height.
>>14566141
>no fun allowed
Go back to reddit.
e80ccf No.14566171
>>14566153
>being retarded is fun
Play overwatch if that's your thing.
5b6e72 No.14566179
>>14566171
>complain that tf2 devs are patching the game to be like overwatch
>lmao go play overwatch
7972ab No.14566187
>>14566153
>wanting games to be balanced means I hate fun
>implying a game full of people abusing broken shit is fun
>>>/cuckchan/
e80ccf No.14566189
27378f No.14566197
>>14566153
>It now takes LESS Time then it did before
No it doesn't, the actual use animation you have to commit to wasn't changed at all. while yes it does holster slightly faster while using it you have the same period of time where you are defenseless.
5b6e72 No.14566198
>>14566187
>>14566189
>nerfing the fun shit like clever + sandman
>good
Please go and stay go.
bc8202 No.14566204
>>14563450
The game has always been balanced to keep the soldier/demo relevant, if any class manages to be a hard counter or slightly better than both these classes, they nerf it to the fucking ground.
e80ccf No.14566216
>>14566198
You're not making a lick of sense. Lay off the paint chips.
5b6e72 No.14566220
>>14566216
>I have reading comprehension problems
e80ccf No.14566223
>>14566216
>imblyen i eat pent chip
is u rterded
t.5b6e72
5b6e72 No.14566225
>>14566222
It's ok, everyone else here is equally as retarded as you are.
5b6e72 No.14566227
>>14566223
>he can't even post right
e0a70f No.14566236
>>14566036
Manyuu Hiken-chou.
It's actually pretty mediocre except for the A+ titties.
And this ridiculous scene, pic related.
97e28d No.14566272
I'm more distraught over the fact that I'll never be able to enjoy TF2 before the focus became cosmetics again. I just want to play fun maps with server regulars. No gravity, crits, etc but a little rtd now and then doesn't hurt
64b9e2 No.14566276
>>14566236
Well now I have to see it.
27378f No.14566283
>>14566272
You'd have to be legitimately retarded to ever have believed cosmetics were the "focus".
97e28d No.14566318
>>14566283
You'd have to be legitimately retarded to have ever believed otherwise. Do you know how many man-hours were put into cosmetics? Precious man hours better spent working on the game? And then after putting out a reasonably-sized update (most of which is just cosmetics of some sort), the devs say, "alright, fuck it, we did work, now we can relax for another 6 months" before fucking off before releasing more crap which nobody asked for.
Don't even get me started on the trainwreck which was matchmaking.
d9ec1c No.14566320
>people still play this after Valve added cash shops, F2P update that destroyed the community, pioneer lootboxes, assloads of thoughtlessly made items, murdered the visual style with shiny autistic cosmetics and weapon skins and being the most Jewish as possible
Some people, either have no standards or have Stockholm syndrome. I pray for you.
27378f No.14566322
>>14566318
>Do you know how many man-hours were put into cosmetics?
Incredibly few.
Source is really really fucking easy at handling playerattachments and sending pose parameters to attachments. Literally all someone has to do now, especially since they patched it, is set origin orientation and model bone.
d9ec1c No.14566327
P.S. come play TF2 Vintage
97e28d No.14566329
>>14566322
They reworked the entire "ammo from dropped weapons" mechanic after they added their CS:GO-esque weapon skins. This means that you can no longer move said dropped weapons with explosions or the like. I'm pretty sure the ammo boxes don't move either. Also, don't forget about how they had to cut corners off the game to squeeze in as many cosmetics on screen as possible. Need I bring up the C*bc video?
0cf915 No.14566331
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
People still play hat simulator fortress?
27378f No.14566340
>>14566329
Ammo boxes are physobjects. They can be pushed, pretty sure weapons themselves are also physobjects, and if you are referring to a lot of the lighting errors on older maps, that's more of an issue of the migration to the new source multiplayer engine than any deliberate attempt by the team, in addition the default viewmodel FOV (and viewmodel animations which are allowed to be modified on nearly all servers) being reduced caused weapons to appear much smaller in the first person view, as well as a reduction in phong lighting as higher resolution displays became more common making rim lighting silhouettes less necessary.
124260 No.14566374
MAKE IT SO RANDOM CRITS ARE OFF BY DEFAULT FFS
27378f No.14566377
>>14566374
Random crits are both balanced and skill based.
16949a No.14566387
>>14566377
Exactly like demoman.
And demoman random crits are the most skill based thing possible.
27378f No.14566399
>>14566387
It's a pretty straightforward system, everyone gets a base rate of crit chance, you do a lot of damage(noncritical) you get more crit chance. Then only one where it's really unbalanced is with medic where the chance to critical can be fueled by healing target's damage and the crit chance doesn't decay unless you switch to your primary or melee weapon
7fd067 No.14566421
>>14566374
>he can't dodge/reflect projectiles
>he can't take cover during hitscan crits
>>14566399
There's also the fact that the Übersaw benefits from random crits, which gives the Medic a 15-60% chance to instantly kill most classes on top of getting a quarter of an übercharge.
8700a4 No.14566445
>>14566421
>'just dont get hit'
e0e929 No.14566491
>>14566399
But crit explosions are so much better than any other crit you can possibly get.
a6bac6 No.14566495
Serious question: Am I the only person on the internet who saw what direction TF2 was going to go when they nerfed Demoman within a week of the pre-release?
7fd067 No.14566510
>>14566445
>"lol how is it my fault I got hit by the big glowing thing"
fa7a39 No.14566512
>>14566236
Thank you very much anon!
I shall repay you with some big tiddie anime grills.
f55ebd No.14566583
this game never held above 50k
it died few years after its release and they skinned it and destroyed it with microtransactions
it still below 50k daily
its been A DECADE, ITS DEAD
a6bac6 No.14566590
>>14566583
Valve destroyed itself when it stopped being a game-making company and became a game-service company.
At this point, HL3 would be a rail shooter with no shooting, just dialogue.
96242e No.14566605
>>14562859
There IS another tf2 thread but it's bumplocked.
>>14562900
I remember the Charge and Targe being fireproof making it useless.
>>14563158
Those tryhard niggers
96242e No.14566614
>>14563678
>Hot character gets her titties shrunk
1db049 No.14566628
The bad first
>Flamethrower nerfed because "pyro is too op because i can't git gud" meme
Sydney sleeper nerfed splash damaged on full charged headshots for weird reasons
>Short Circuit retooled/nerfed and chews metal extremely fast with new alt fire which leaves you with 3 shots
>Gas Passer nerfed in MvM can't solo spam groups with ease anymore
the good
>Thermal Thruster now switches a bit faster now
>Axetinguisher retooled and a bit more better now (though Valve constantly throw crit and mini crits around and can't decide which is better on a weapon used to finish off opponents fast)
Pretty meh but i really hate the Short Circuit now.
580726 No.14566818
>>14566495
Yes. But plenty of other games have shown updates that cater to the biggest whining from casuals by this point; and the people who hated steam when it first came out were on to something because auto updates are cancer. Honestly Valve pioneered alot of cancer in the games industry.
99b711 No.14566892
I just laughed my ass off doing the scout infinite jump exploit. Glad I had the time before it was apparently patched. Valve hates people having unapproved fun. Time to uninstall until the next exploit.
c29e8e No.14567042
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
The only good thing that ever comes out of TF2 updates is new, incredibly bizarre glitches
4e1b61 No.14567293
>>14566041
>t. a retarde who never played any of these
f6a053 No.14570734
>>14565983
>caring about balance is reddit tier
you're a special kind of stupid
8700a4 No.14570857
>>14566510
>implying critical hits are somehow easier to dodge than regular hits because they're glowing
also most weapons in the game are hitscan
fe174e No.14570870
>>14565983
> caring about balance is reddit tier
other way around buddy.
448dce No.14570968
>>14565818
scout is a stronger class than soldier or demo, stop crying for soldier to be nerfed if all you play is 24/7 hightower
212c10 No.14570994
im sure there was other shit before it, but i cant think of a single thing that ruined the game more then the scout update.
76f93a No.14571059
>>14562859
>Take the worst class
>Only redeeming features are its ability to run into a room and set every on fire then bail out
>Or chase down spies
>Nerf this ability into the ground
>Nerf their only decent weapons
What is this,
96242e No.14571245
>>14567042
>incredibly bizarre glitches
You mean the Heavy's bizarre cosmetics
>Delfy
>"Look guise I'm fixing the game by breaking it more"
fe174e No.14571381
>>14571059
infinitely superior to a class that entails literally holding m1 for effortless kills
i never have issues with pyros because i run scout 99% of the time but for everyone else it's fucking retarded, pyro is a non-class because of his skill requirement being so low a five year old could play as him and win. him being complete shit is better than him being extremely overpowered in relevance with his skill requirement.
9b414b No.14571536
>>14571059
>>their
>"xe" still thinks the pyro is tumblrgender or a womyn
Fuck off dumblr.
8711f0 No.14573891
>>14571245
>Look guise I'm fixing the game by breaking it more
Actually nigger, the developers break and fix their own game
e4f2fa No.14574267
I miss when tf2 was good.
c669e0 No.14574660
>>14574267
It was never good.
27378f No.14574996
>>14570968
>Literal highest mobility in the game
>90% of maps are now designed with pogo/surf paths for explosive jumpers
>Essentially unmatched damage wise to the point the "meta" for raw damage is two soldiers two demos
<Scout is more powerful than soldier or demo
d4808c No.14575012
>>14574660
Overwatch is legitimately better, desu.
79b832 No.14575058
>>14565818
>Soldier will never be nerfed or called out for being the most broken class in the game.
What is a good Demoman?
27378f No.14575067
>>14575058
A soldier, but with arching rockets
65a301 No.14575189
>>14570968
Have both of them at close range shoot at each other with their primary. See who dies first.
Have them race around maps, see who actually is faster.
Have them climb vertically. See who goes higher with any loadout vs someone having to use a specific loadout just to get about 3x jumps.
Better yet, have them going against heavies and demos, see who lasts longer or even wins when one class can pop shots feom cover at medium range while the other has to get close.
Scout only works as a Spy with no cloak. As long as he gets near someone unnoticed, he will wreck shit, but if he does'nt get the first shot, say goodbye. He's practically doing the role of Pyro, only he actually has the mobility for it.
>>14575058
A soldier with less health and slower rocketjumping, since he needs to lay down mines first.
Only advantages he has is using the grenade launcher like an explosive shotgun or exploding stickies as soon as they land, effectively making them contact grenades.
9e9032 No.14575210
>>14566019
>>14566141
>>14570734
>>14570870
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH nerf thing because i don't like it
>let me explain why everything is broken by using completely hypothetical situations
<these situations rarely happen and can easily be avoided
Seriously, when did the no fun shitters took over /v/?
Stop sucking valve's dick or fuck off.
7972ab No.14575235
>>14575210
Anon, your asshurt is showing.
9e9032 No.14575249
>>14575235
Why don't you go play overwatch if you want balancing autism so much?
7972ab No.14575276
>>14575249
>overwatch
>balance
Nice joke, anon.
65a301 No.14575280
>>14575210
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH don't nerf thing because i like it
>let me explain why everything is okay by using completely hypothetical situations
<these situations rarely happen and can easily be avoided
Shut the fuck already. Seriously, stop giving your input in literally anything.
Your entire opinion can be summed up as "leave my prefered way of playing as OP as possible so I keep having regardless if anyone else is either"
The only thing faggots like you manage to achieve is forcing everyone to play the exact same way because it's the only way to win or have any fun.
You're a selfish asshole that only cares about his own and everyone else either plkays the same or he can get fucked, but you still expect others to care about not ruining yor fun.
Go fuck yourself with a cactus. I'd rather have classes I don't play buffed so every single one is viable and the meta isn't always the same strategy then havin my prefered class kept static throughout the years just so I can play the way I like while everyone else gets fucked.
9e9032 No.14575297
>>14575280
>Your entire opinion can be summed up as "leave my prefered way of playing as OP as possible so I keep having regardless if anyone else is either"
What was so op about cleaver + sandman?
>The only thing faggots like you manage to achieve is forcing everyone to play the exact same way because it's the only way to win or have any fun.
I don't think you understand the conversation.
I'm complaining about competitive shitters nerfing fun loadouts that aren't op but every faggot thinks they are because they how a low iq and can't work around the problem as a team.
>You're a selfish asshole that only cares about his own and everyone else either plkays the same or he can get fucked, but you still expect others to care about not ruining yor fun.
You're really good at projecting, you'll fit in here.
854791 No.14575319
>>14575280
>he can't figure out how to work around problems
>he has to have valve balance everything so it can work for him on his level
>he wants them to entirely rebalance the game to the point it doesn't even resemble the original
65a301 No.14575399
>>14575297
Oh, my apologies Anon. I though you were talking in general or worse, you were a Soldier main.
The cleaver and Sandman is a bit cheesy, though. You already have 2 status effects applied anyway and the Sandman made landing the Cleaver trivial, so it was a loadout that wasn't necessarily OP but it was better than any other combination of secomdary and melee, plus it removed a lot of risk of using the cleaver. A hit with the sandman meant a hit with cleaver if you werent too terrible at it.
Basically, its a loadout that reinforced itself and rewarded doing something that you were gonna do anyway. Simply being easier to land the Cleaver should be enough reward for landing the sandman.
>>14575319
I can work around problems and solve them with autistic solutions as much ad I want, but when I'm going against equally skilled players and they don't have to put in even half the effort to play their specific broken class, shit stops being fun.
I like to play several classes and learn how to use each one of them, I just don't think it's very fun or fair to be told "here's this class that does what all of those do and better"
c8b41c No.14575943
>>14562900
Maybe someday, we can dream
4e5a44 No.14576358
Who gives a shit? Modern TF2 is a cluttered unfocused eyesore of a game. There aren't even any good servers and nobody has run anything except 24/7 dustbowl, 2fort, badwater, hightower servers for years now.
cdff94 No.14576576
>>14573891
It's a cycle that will never end.
>>14574996
>Spypenser did catch on
What the fuck? even the original gmod videos
disappeared.
cdff94 No.14579164
>>14578396
Don't forget to subscribe to my patreon for more SFM porn.
c24ffa No.14579482
I was gonna make a thread but it's gonna get swamped by anti-valve contrarians, the patch itself was pretty good, the axtinguisher is finally on a good spot, flamethrower vomit was nerfed, and competitive actually makes sense on paper, sadly, queue times are still abysmal,
>>14563372
I will fucking miss teleport traps, it only ever affected retarded DELETE THIS-tier kids because you can just kill yourself to respawn.
27378f No.14579513
>>14579164
You know, the thing that always got me about people who make "deluxe SFM posters" they always use like, stock rendering tools. SFM has support for custom renderers. lightwarps, lightmappers.
And yet somehow they all just use stock lighting on maps with all lighting entities removed
c24ffa No.14579545
>>14566614
Her titties are stolen, not just shrunk this is my fetish and there is zero good material out there
cdff94 No.14584899
>>14579513
Yet they pirate fucking Photoshop, funniest part is that they keep telling his fans to BUY the fucking software, similar can be said about ytpers and Sony Vegas.
6ae049 No.14585625
>>14562876
>people here still play games?
I only come here to get non-video game webms from webm threads since its like the ultimate variety show
4e8351 No.14589038
>>14562876
Literally every weekend.
90b4be No.14589077
>>14579545
That's retarded.
27378f No.14589172
>>14584899
Has anyone actually paid for sony vegas?
Wasn't there a leak that revealed that some movie they published was made with pirated software?
3cb6d5 No.14589198
>>14578396
>cuck
>jew
>reddit
Nice buzzwords, faggot. clearly you're a newfag. This isn't cuckchan /pol/, talk about video games without bringing your cringy political meme shit in here
1fd8b7 No.14589210
>>14574660
>trying this hard to fit in
Redditors and contrarians never fail to amuse me
4e8351 No.14594582
>>14589198
He forgot to add soy.
f59841 No.14594785
>>14589172
>Has anyone actually paid for sony vegas?
As I'm concerned: no, but ytpers like Stuart Kelly are encouraging to buy the software, even if they pirated the shit themselves.
c62f9b No.14595209
>>14566320
You can always play the 360 version its still clean, but good luck finding any players.
c24ffa No.14596210
I'd like to mention how hats are much more in style nowadays, and considering how last thread some anon proved he had got a couple of miscs in, I'd like to thank everyone here responsible for that.
02b9ef No.14598845
>>14566198
>stun mechanics in an arena shooter
>fun
haha scout just 2shot a heavy from full overheal what grace and skill
a4e0c1 No.14598918
>ctrl+f "loose cannon"
>Fixed The Loose Cannon continuing to play the priming sound if the weapon is holstered while priming
Lmao they will never nerf this beast. Enjoy being even weaker, 7 out of 9 classes.
5b18c0 No.14598950
>>14598918
>wanting to play as the nigger
7c2d66 No.14599203
>>14575067
And 12 of them, 8 of which can air detonate.
a4e0c1 No.14600303
>>14598950
>nigger
>richest and most powerful of the classes
Makes you do the big think.
b117da No.14600362
>>14600317
Among all the current FPS and the Battle Royale shit, Team Fortress 2 is still easily one of the best balanced games, rewards teamwork and things to learn complex but satisfying. It hurts that your line of learning is a badly designed shit
060323 No.14600383
>>14600325
8chan is pol you pleb
8e7492 No.14604107
>>14575058
Soldier, except Valve actually nerfs them from time to time.
ca5f19 No.14605007
>>14598950
tf2 confirmed to be blacked.
b072ec No.14607473
>>14562859
>still playing TF2
Why?/end your life.
512372 No.14610066
>>14563776
>SYDNEY SLEEPER
>Instead of stunning players, it pisses on them
4e8351 No.14620268
>>14563776
Even in context that's a bit fucking weird.
b72df9 No.14624824
>>14605007
>one nigger
>blacked
>>>/pol/
b5c2cf No.14624875
>>14562859
Honestly i’m kinda okay with this update, atleast they fixed some broken shit in the game and made the Axtinguisher not a piece of shit (though its still a far cry from its original self). I still hate that they nerfed the short circuit and is still content with nerfing the Heavy, their retarded mindset of what’s balance is retarded though, they gimp alot of new shit that can be abused with the enough skill (see: B.A.S.E Jumper, Loose Cannon, Crazy-legs Soda Popper, and Sandman & Cleaver combo, etc.) instead of coming up of a way to properly counter it or y’know
Buff the underutilized weapons that has been untouched except for when you’re not playing seriously
788f5c No.14624950
>Caring about Hat Simulator the Gaym in CURRENT YEAAR
Oh boy oh boy, you know what that means, DUBZ BREAD!
fe6780 No.14625219
45813e No.14626202
>>14625219
A Scottish nigger yes.
f80bb3 No.14626468
>>14610066
I think it was supposed to stun players in concept but they changed it to urine before release.
cdff94 No.14627578
>>14624824
>Being this autist
cdff94 No.14627586
>>14624875
>Pic
Is that fucking overwatch? tumblr sure loves to piss on tf2's grave with their Gay Niggers shipping.
28cf2a No.14627928
>>14599203
Just slap a wall.
28cf2a No.14627940
>>14598845
Learn to dodge, you literally have 6 keys for that
b72df9 No.14630607
>>14627578
You get out too.
64b9e2 No.14630621
>>14627928
what if there are no walls around?
>>14627940
>heavy
>dodging
O i am laffin.
c4cc44 No.14630630
shit game for casual noobs
41cd16 No.14633286
>>14627586
Is this a fucking joke? Of course its not you dumb dolt, its a fucking fanart and the demo / soldier are R63’d
>>14630621
I hope you like Rhythm games, since the heavy plays exactly like that.
>>14630630
>t. Shitter
64b9e2 No.14633336
>>14633286
If you are implying heavy needs to dodge, you are mistaken. Heavy moves far too slowly for any evasive maneuver to be remotely effective.
fbc1d2 No.14636006
>>14633336
No, you dumbass re-read my fucking post holy shit. I've played 150+ hours of Heavy and even i know that he's slow as fuck. That's why you play him like a Rhythm game, since whats important is focusing on which threats that are more dangerous before targeting the other ones. Heavy was never about movement or as a mobile offence class, he never was supposed to be one. His objective is to shut-down flanking routes and spearhead captures when he's backed by a medic There's also timing and some shit of when to give your Medic a sandvich but that's like a bonus mechanic for the Heavy. If you meet a scout (the good ones), then i hope you've got a good mouse tracking skill, since that's what it boils down to.
If you want to train your reflexes, go play some 2Hus
Hell i could boil down each of the classes playstyle to a different genre from TF2 and still managed to be informative, since that's how much old Valve put their effort into this fucking game
>Scout: Bullet Hell but with precision aiming.
<Soldier: Quake in Source (sort of).
>Pyro: a Walking simulator with the occasional button prompt.
<Demoman: Bomberman but in a 3D space.
>Heavy: Rhythm game with co-op.
<Engineer: Tower Defense but you can only have one tower.
>Medic: a management game where you both manage your team and manage your team's trump card that you, yes you, could only carry and deploy.
<Sniper: A shooting gallery but with real, moving, people. Hitting their heads gives you bonus points.
>Spy: Stealth and hitbox fuckery
c24ffa No.14637445
>>14636006
>Pyro: a Walking simulator with the occasional button prompt.
more like a moba, almost no skill involved in actual combat, all of the focus is on positioning and routes, and fighting boils down to pressing all your buttons in a defined order really quickly + that one ability you have to time.
3e3928 No.14640866
>>14637445
Shit, i guess you have a point there
50a8b5 No.14640911
>>14637445
>face "pro" cosmetically pimped-out pyro as soldier
>thinks he's hot shit up to the point when I start randomly switching to my shotgun as he cant mindlessly airblast my rockets back anymore
Every time.
b00e25 No.14643835
>>14562859
Good, modern TF2 is actually fun and pretty much the only modern fps I play.
cf8893 No.14646753
cf8893 No.14649316
75065e No.14653963
4229b6 No.14656458
>>14571059
while he has only half the dpm he used to have (it does ramp up), flamethrower now has better range and is overall more consistent, pyro is better now for combo loadouts just because he can light enemies on fire more reliably, and you can more reliably keep your flames on enemies as well. why does a character being updated mean its going to be buffed anyways? look at these webms, that is the kind of shit that happened for half a year, pyro was outright overpowered in close range and im convinced the only kneejerkers didn't even play for the entirety of jungle inferno update. the airblast nerf was also well deserved. only playstyles that were unfun to play against have been nerfed
>>14574996
>two demos
only one. and in 6s soldiers only exist to feed for the enemy medic or to gain the rest of the team space and try to splash enemy scouts away from your own medic
0488ef No.14656644
>>14656458
I call bullshit on webm 1. Even with 07 pyro the FF was not that retardedly OP with burn time.
4229b6 No.14656677
>>14656644
that was a crit, one hitbox with the jungle inferno flamethrower could hit multiple times