c887e0 No.14562107
Can we talk about the buyfag menace?
Why do faggots always show up to demand justification for piracy? Shouldn't buyfags be justifying their shitty purchases? Buyfaggotry requires a sacrifice of financial resources while piracy does not, thus the burden of proof falls upon the buyfag who must prove the product to be worthy of said resources.
I also see tards praying for an industry crash, but it's never going to happen with all the cashcows pouring their shekels into early access, lootboxes, microtransactions and DLC. I personally believe they're engineered by the "karma" systems on social media to be as good goy as possible, believe anything pundits and comedians tell them, and buy whatever shit they're told is amazing by guerilla marketing teams manipulating said systems.
I bring this up partly because there's some rather blatant shilling abound. The Dragon Quest XI thread is a good example >>14558076 just skim through there (I vaguely recall Dragon Quest Builders getting shill on image boards too) OR look at Denuvo shitters like this >>14549766
If only normalfags could be turned against buyfaggotry and this industry choked to death or at least choked enough to kill oxygen to the very worst practices.
>inb4 communists blaming the system
Eat sawdust, comrade.
1ffa43 No.14562116
>>14562107
Piracy of good games hurts the industry. Piracy of bad games cleans up the industry.
Buy good games and pirate bad ones or better yet don't play them at all.
669268 No.14562125
I make a lot of money, so it's literally easier and more convenient for me to pay for the game on steam than it is to pirate it.
c887e0 No.14562127
>If only normalfags could be turned against buyfaggotry and this industry choked to death or at least choked enough to kill oxygen to the very worst practices.
Also on that point, I don't think enough people are shitting on buyfags so they think it's the most acceptable thing to just buy everything no matter what. Buy buy buy! DLC? Buy! Special edition? Buy! But that goes back to what I said about social media engineering these people. Opposition to buyfaggotry is stifled on these tightly controlled platforms while buyfaggotry is amplified by marketeers.
971600 No.14562130
>>14562107
I've never bought dlc that wasn't in a GOTY or final edition, as it always seemed too little of addition for the price. I don't even know what skins and ambios and loot boxes are but it sounds like so much like a kind of autism tax. But people buy for their reasons and their right, so what can be done? You could try to inform the uninformed, lest you become a radical of sorts. The phrase a sucker is born every minute is as true today as it was when coined. Rewarding good games somehow might be a good start, but even that is subjective. Rewarding good devs might be the best solution, maybe you could buy some dlc or skins from their games after you've bought the game a full price. The nightmare goggles won't come off today.
c887e0 No.14562132
>>14562116
>Piracy of good games hurts the industry.
Unless, without the option to pirate it, you weren't going to buy it anyways then there is no lost sale.
c887e0 No.14562140
>>14562125
You are feeding the monster helping it not only to survive but become worse. It's like feeding the trolls, but the trolls are insatiable merchants who can only jew you harder with every shekel you feed to them.
884e24 No.14562147
>it's another poorfag thread
inb4 justification for being a poorfag, i don't care what any of you anons say, the truth is you're all just sour grapes.
e05e0c No.14562149
I'd go back to piracy if they didn't put fucking coinminers in their software
669268 No.14562166
>>14562140
I usually only buy games I know I'll like tbh. I don't buy many at all.
9014ca No.14562169
>>14562127
I'm pretty sure that last pic was from a comic that was just a joke, not entirely pro-piracy.
15adf6 No.14562173
piracy is good if its for like companies that try to screw you over by cutting the game to pieces and selling it as dlc or if they turn the game into gambling simulator with microtransactions
15adf6 No.14562175
piracy is good if its for like companies that try to screw you over by cutting the game to pieces and selling it as dlc or if they turn the game into gambling simulator with microtransactions
e88006 No.14562186
Piracy isn't good. Pirated games to companies that notice this and they do notice this means more denovo and more 'practices' to get people to buy the games. day 1 dlc is anti-pirate tactic, preorder rewards is an anti-pirate tactic. If the game is shit don't fucking play it. How hard is that to do? When you can literally find 5000 autists doing let's plays showing gameplay and overall letting you know if this game is something you have interest in, piracy is fucking retarded. Why would you spend your time playing triple A trash at all? It's not worth the fucking download.
You want a fucking crash so god damn bad but you retards have no idea on how to go about it. A company doesn't look at a pirated copy and say "oh man we're doomed' they go 'how do we stop this and or incentive this to not happen' The only games you should pirate are those that the dev's who created the game no long fucking exist. Or pretty much most of Gog's catalog.
248eaa No.14562187
>>14562169
It's an edit. The original comic is about buying music.
21b080 No.14562190
tbh using my financial resources to buy games gives me the motivation I need to actually sit down and play them.
b1551c No.14562199
>The game industry is shit, no one makes games that I like anymore
>Oh, look a game that I like
>Pirated
>WAAAAAAHH, why did [developer] not release more of that game? Why is "Game 2: Electric boogaloo" appealing to normalfags?
b1551c No.14562210
>The game industry is shit, no one makes games that I like anymore
>Oh, look a game that I like
>Pirated
>WAAAAAAHH, why did [developer] not release more of that game? Why is "Game 2: Electric boogaloo" appealing to normalfags?
e0fcdc No.14562216
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The maximum price that star wars crap sells at is >90% off
The same thing is for games, you should never preorder or buy around launch like a mindless buyfag slavegolem, no matter how popular shit is.
6712c9 No.14562227
>sperg out about buyfags (I'll give you a hint, "buyfags" here are entirely different than what you're describing, you describe normalfags) because its your first time dealing with a shill
I think its time for you to lurk more.
fdeb80 No.14562237
>>14562199
>if I buy shit games with packed with microtransactions it means more good games will start getting made
How is that working out for you paypig?
87075d No.14562244
This is very simple:
If I consider that a game is not worth my my money, then it is not worth my time as well. Why pirate trash?
If game is good then I just buy and play it, because fucking with torrents and isos is just too much hassle.
b0f15f No.14562250
>>14562107
Buyfaggotry dictates what market wants.
c1ff78 No.14562252
If you don't openly demean and ridicule every buyfag in person you aren't doing your part. They need to feel like shit for what they do and not from some bitchy idiot on their computer screen but from someone they know and see regularly. Clique up, berate, and ostracize all buyfags at every possible chance. Make them regret ever talking about buying a game. Make them lose social standing and influence for buying and make sure they know exactly why.
If you don't do this you're a whiny fraud and might as well be buying games too. You are the one who allows the buyfags comfort. You are the buyfag enabler.
775b44 No.14562258
only console fags need tojustify their purchases
if you don't buy from the devs you support then you are not entiteled to complain when said devs go broke
if you buy from shit publishers and devs you hate just cus you wanted in on the latest hype train then you have no right to complain when said publisher or dev fucks up the industry
just avoid shitheads with anticonsummer busines practice and shill those who do right by their consummers
47f761 No.14562265
920529 No.14562273
>>14562244
Why pay for anything when you can get it for free with no risk of legal repercussions?
151725 No.14562281
>>14562244
>>14562186
>>14562199
You're assuming its worth in money is related to its quality. The game could be good, but priced at way too high a value or be tied to a shit developer or publisher. In those cases the game could still be worth the time to play but not worth the money spent or given to shit businesses that would only encourage them to continue and worsen their shit practices. Some examples being subnautica, and DRM games.
>>14562252
I am implementing this with a group of friends. At first I started small by demeaning them for buying from easy targets like Rockstar, EA, Blizzard, and Activision. Then I moved into the more general anti-consumer shit like pre-orders, day 1 dlc, and season passes. I'm currently trying to get to use steam less and on torwards GOG or pirate the game if it has no GOG release.
c1ff78 No.14562298
>>14562281
Good work, anon. Do keep in mind the goal of them spreading this to people they know independently of you genuinely by their own will
920529 No.14562305
>>14562147
Whats wrong with being a poorfag?
Not everyone was born in a rich country you know
47f761 No.14562308
>>14562281
>I am implementing this with a group of friends. At first I started small by demeaning them for buying from easy targets like Rockstar, EA, Blizzard, and Activision. Then I moved into the more general anti-consumer shit like pre-orders, day 1 dlc, and season passes. I'm currently trying to get to use steam less and on torwards GOG or pirate the game if it has no GOG release.
fucking nice
920529 No.14562313
>>14562186
You are retarded, its not "piracy" that pushes industry into anti consumer practices, its greed
>Pirated games to companies that notice this and they do notice this means more denovo
All worthy games with denovo got cracked eventually
>day 1 dlc is anti-pirate tactic preorder rewards is an anti-pirate tactic
Most of torrents have all those things included from the get go, even the most jewish companies with their DLC practices (Paradox) have their full editions pirated hours after release
>find 5000 autists doing let's plays showing gameplay
>Watching lets play instead of trying out the game yourself
87075d No.14562329
>>14562273
To save time and effort.
I aint assed to download and install archivers, virtual drive managers and shit, while researching which one support what format, while learning what torrent tracker supports what torrent client.
>>14562281
Good game is good game, bad game is bad game. I'd rather play short good game, than long ass bad game.
Also if dev is some sorta agenda pushing cuck numale, he just wont make good game. There are no precedents.
920529 No.14562333
>>14562329
>To save time and effort.
How is spending your money "saving time and effort"
First of all even with hourly wage of 20$ you would have to work 2-3 hours to buy a new game
You just wasted 2 hours of your life on something you could get for free
Moreover pirating is easiest thing possible, its much easier and faster than buying a game from for eg. steam
I dont get your point
6e50d0 No.14562341
>>14562265
>EVERYTHING I DONT LIKE IS CUCKCHAN
87075d No.14562344
>>14562333
Well if you're smart enough to get trips, I believe you're smart enough to get how entertainment works if you think hard enough.
18cfeb No.14562347
>>14562316
The only way I knew of to buy an assault rifle (full auto AK pattern or FAL) was through the Armory, which was so far off the normalfagnet as not to even exist, as far as anyone who watches TV is concerned. Never bothered, because I wouldn't be able to use it anywhere.
35f0d7 No.14562349
>>14562333
>You just wasted 2 hours of your life on something you could get for free
It's good we live in a time period where Kikes aren't looked down on and derided.
9b7f53 No.14562364
>>14562186
>you should stop piracy because anti-piracy tactics
Kill yourself retard.
LAN gaming was butchered because of greedy faggot devs. And that was by far the best experience most people had.
Now we have everything always online and they are still pushing further and further against the consumer.
A big fuck you to you. These devs deserve to be put out of business and beaten with sticks. Even those that make good games but slap garbage models onto them.
And maybe after that, in the hospital they will realize that even buyfags had fun with some of the mechanics they cut in order to combat piracy.
6712c9 No.14562367
>>14562341
No, being a willing cuck to Valve is cuckchan, speaking of which
>>>/cuckchan/
9742f6 No.14562387
>>14562341
>yes goy! Purchase games for Steam overlords!
wow are one of these people you?
f1c2e8 No.14562400
>>14562387
>Look everyone, look! There's shit here!
<Pointing at a toilet
The people who join Steam groups are the worst of the worst, this isn't a secret.
9742f6 No.14562414
>>14562400
>The people who join Steam groups are the worst of the worst
Just like the people who use steam
3dc2bb No.14562421
>>14562387
>tfw haven't played any Fallout game after 2.
8b4d32 No.14562432
>>14562186
Is there a name in japan for genky wolf girls like that one?
6712c9 No.14562437
>>14562400
It keeps needing to be pointed out since there are still people retarded enough to use Steam
9742f6 No.14562439
>>14562250
It dictates what producers shilled the most.
4cfb3a No.14562443
>>14562107
>Why do faggots always show up to demand justification for piracy?
Because piracy is morally wrong, goy- I mean, fellow gamergator. You should buy all your videogames, because the (((industry))) needs your shek- I mean, money. Oy vey! Remember that you should buy your games but not own them. Remember the wise words:
>You own nothing, goyim!
t. Jon (((Leibowitz)))
a9c31b No.14562446
>>14562132
Torrenting Kingdom Come is what convinced me to buy it bugs and all
a70900 No.14562614
Any positive talk of any game is shilling to you. You might need to hang yourself.
bb9d14 No.14562627
>>14562107
I am too afraid of fucking up and getting caught, so piracy is not realy a option. Pls no bullying
523cf1 No.14562715
Do you buy games you like, after pirating them to try them out?
If not, you're the reason good games are not being made.
8b920a No.14562728
>>14562107
>I bring this up partly because there's some rather blatant shilling abound.
Sadly, this is Trump//pol/'s fault that's meant to be Trump slash /pol/, looks retarded as they proved to the media class that image boards are high centrality nodes for meme dispersal.
6b7776 No.14562735
I just buy and play classic games like Quake, DOOM and Thief. To me, the older the game, the better it is. I mean look at the AAA games of today. Besides I know DOOM is up for free download somewhere else other than Steam but I still bought it because it's worth it.
3b084a No.14562737
>>14562728
No, you’re just a lazy newfag leftist who knows nothing about the history of imageboards. To you, the universe began on the day that Trump announced his candidacy.
523cf1 No.14562740
>>14562735
>the older the game, the better it is
Fucking hipsters
6b7776 No.14562742
>>14562400
>The people who join Steam groups are the worst of the worst
How?
6b7776 No.14562745
>>14562740
>Fucking hipsters
You just described /v/ in a nutshell.
66b6b2 No.14562746
>tfw had more fun with games than just about anyone on /v/ the past few years because I'm not poor
>end up with the occasional game I don't like but don't give a fuck because I have thousands I do like
>have access to whatever I want whenever I want it
>still pirate hundreds of games and have never paid for any PC games
>retarded piratefags constantly need to try to drag everyone down to their cyclical misery of playing the same 3 games that are /v/-approved
>still own my copies and will be able to play them in 50 years
buyfag master race
8b4d32 No.14562751
>>14562446
It was sonic racing transformed for me.
8b920a No.14562771
>>14562737
Notice how you don't actually have anything resembling to an argument or a point? Any spotlight western imageboards got in the media is absolutely nothing in comparison to the attention the 2016 election and its aftermath have brought.
0eca23 No.14562814
Pic related when I didn't share the enthusiasm of a "friend" for AAA shooters. It was buried beneath a layer of composure and only evident later when he became exasperated with my unwillingness to pledge dollars to Ubisoft and EA on principle. I could note some contempt in his words when he asked why this was. Since then I've grown to suspect that awful games like Wildlands and Battlefield 1 make up his identity and that an attack on games that he "fucks wit", or their developers, is an attack on him personally. This person is a low-income consolefag.
000000 No.14562845
>>14562746
>tfw had more fun with games
The simple are easily amused.
3b084a No.14562852
>>14562771
>Notice how you don't actually have anything resembling to an argument or a point?
lol irony
>Any spotlight western imageboards got in the media is absolutely nothing in comparison to the attention the 2016 election and its aftermath have brought.
lol proven false; marketers have always been here, newfag
06c3b6 No.14562855
>>14562147
Justification: I have money but won't spend it on Jewish garbage.
Just because you have a job at McDonald's and like to shovel shit into your mouth doesn't mean everyone else does.
>>14562186
>fags create more copy protection
>We just find more ways around it
>waaah arms race is bad
It's easier to crack games than it is to protect them. Even the supposedly bullet proof Denuvo was cracked.
>>14562244
>doing this thing that's so easy a child can do it is too much of a hassle
>Muh convenience
This is how freedom truly dies. People choosing convenience over what's right. Little liberty, little security…
>>14562329
>Muh time and effort
You literally just download the game, mount and install, many games doesn't even need that because they have different install process that requires a click or two. It's like if you complained that installing steam and setting up a game folder on your HDD is too hard. What a fucking joke, you're just a lazy buyfag cuckold.
TWO OR THREE CLICKS IS FUCKING HARD GUYS BUY THIS NEW PIECE OF SHIT!
b64b8f No.14562867
>>14562107
You should always buy everything. Keeping currency in circulation is what powers our economy. Stop pirating shit, stealfag.
87075d No.14562874
3b084a No.14562875
>>14562867
The economy deserves to be destroyed.
8b920a No.14562881
>>14562852
Actually, pointing out you haven't made an argument is an argument.
3baf56 No.14562885
>>14562867
How am i going to survive the months if i spend all my money?
c31beb No.14562888
>>14562845
and that is why companies want them as their consumers, why waste your time with small bitchy groups?
b7a9bb No.14562890
If you need to write word walls to justify what you do, whether it's being a buyfag or a pirate, you're an insecure little bitch who needs to realize it doesn't matter what other people think about what you do. You're trying to make yourself appear as the Grand Autist on a taiwanese basket-weaving forum who will one day save the industry because you told someone they were a faggot for buying videogames when it only establishes how insecure you are in what you do, more specifically that you can't even do what you yourself feel is right without rushing to your personal hugbox of choice to feel validated by other people doing the same thing as you for the same reasons as you. If you feel the need to care about whether people buy or pirate videogames, you're an insecure fucking idiot who needs to learn what it means to stand by your own principles rather than trying to show off how cool you are.
53c4f1 No.14562912
I buy games I am interested in after much deliberation and consideration. In the rare instances I find myself in a brick and mortar shop and in the mood to purchase a game I will spend upwards two hours looking at every game that interests me and looking up videos and reviews all the while. Most of the time I do this without purchasing anything. If I do find a game I like I will walk up to the counter and talk shit about any game the cashier asks me to preorder and then talk shit about him and walk out. This activity is the most fun I have genuinely had with video games in a long time and I have considered recording these interactions for Youtube shekels.
29cee7 No.14562969
>>14562125
>literally easier and more convenient for me to pay for the game on steam than it is to pirate it.
It's literally takes the same amount of time to torrent and get a game for free than it is to find it on steam and wait for it to download and install.
Actually in most cases for me steam has taken longer so it literally isn't more efficient and you are literally chatting shit.
I'll agree with you when they bring back Demo's for all games, just the FFXV one doesn't count.
d50c98 No.14562979
>>14562107
I don't mind paying for games, but I'm only willing to spend as much as $40 on them and the purchased version has to somehow be superior to the pirated version. For example, when that anon leaked Dragon's Dogma a week before its official PC release, I pre-ordered the game on Steam not because I liked the game and knew it was a good port, but because it was only $40 and because I wanted access to the pawn system.
Pic unrelated, just some 2000 year old dicks.
a0291e No.14562985
>>14562341
>everything/one I don't like is x
t. X
>>14562446
>giving money to literal lying kike
Every bit as bad as giving money to Todd and Co. Where are my giant battles you kikes? Why are you shoehorning yourselves into my European games?
>>14562627
I have never once used a VPN when pirating or torrenting anything. Never once got a C&D or a bill. Who is your ISP? Mine was shit but they never gave a fuck.
>>14562740
He's not wrong though, it's not always true but as a general rule of thumb it is.
>>14562867
But what if I want to burn it down? Sooner the economy collapses the faster the system eats itself.
1b6538 No.14562992
>>14562281
>>14562333
My biggest issue is finding a good place to pirate from. Have not had a good gaming pc for a few years, a domino effect of events in life happened, and I did not keep up.
is there a place a pirate noob like me can go and learn the ways of the high seas.
ddb358 No.14562998
>>14562107
>Bitches at an Anon for having fun with games.
If your not having fun with games why the fuck are you playing them? Its the whole fucking point of games you faggot.
8b920a No.14563013
>>14562341
You are though. Leave.
76884d No.14563086
>Don't pay for anything
>Complain that nothing caters to you
I mean, if you like sitting around bitching about this stupid shit then whatever.
0eca23 No.14563187
>>14563086
>Games cater to people
>okay
No, faggot. The problem is that games cater at all. GAME makers need to respect their own product and make GAME decisions in GAME development for GAME related reasons. Catering or pandering is this problem itself.
f66c0e No.14563194
>>14562250
>Buyfaggotry dictates what market wants
That's a funny way of saying youtubers advertisers dictate what the market want.
b5fd7a No.14563281
>>14562116
Piracy cannot lie. It just shows the truth. Companies don't like it because it ruins marketing.
097d74 No.14563296
I used to buy games because I was a Lawful Good fag growing up, now I'm more open to piracy if the game is shit, or some old game that is being overpriced. A lot of these buyfags are just people who don't want to break the law.
58520a No.14563323
>>14562746
>no EDF
>no doax3
>no diva x
>no dqb
>no toukiden 2
>no hyperdimension
>no atelier sophie
>no atelier firis
>no persona 5
>no disgaea 5
but you have destiny, tearaway, mh, last guardian, ratchet and clank, and uncharted.
WTF are you doing?
097d74 No.14563326
>>14563323
>All those games
The real buyfags are you, weebs that only buy Jap console games.
8b920a No.14563329
>>14563326
EDF is on PC. I pirated it.
c20b37 No.14563332
>>14562107
you buy the shit that's good and pirate, or ignore the shit that's trash.
>>14562305
>Not everyone was born in a rich country you know
What fucking gay country you from? Non white?
cde7cb No.14563350
>>14562443
Here i was thinking morals were spooks
6e7da8 No.14563351
>>14562107
>Why do faggots always show up to demand justification for piracy?
>why are faggots such faggots?
truly a mystery
>>14562149
>doesn't use open source softwarez
point at him and laugh
>>14562746
gr8 b8 m8
>>14562814
Why are you friends with a nigger anon?
>>14562992
>find guy selling invites to private tracker
>buy one
>enjoy 2mb/s downloads
normally you'd have to kiss ass to get an invite but apparently you aren't the patient type.
58520a No.14563353
>>14563296
i'll pay for physical media, but i refuse to buy PC games because they often dont even offer physical or if they do, the disk just links me to download the entire fucking game from a server. and theyre sooo poorly optimized. people shit on consoles for 30fps, but i'm lucky if i can get a new game to not look like a slideshow.
>>14563329
EDF online is a ton of fun and where i got the majority of my hours in that game… i still have around 20 levels to beat on inferno left. are you able to play online in the pirated version?
>>14563326
>only
japs are some of the only people making good new games right now. what western games have been worth playing? most of my western games are on PC or my older consoles. (im also a nostalgiafag with a massive collection of consoles and games)
8b920a No.14563356
>>14562147
Sour grapes doesn't make sense. Piracy would be the fox magically getting his own grapes with no effort and then saying "oh, turns out these are sour."
8b920a No.14563357
>>14563353
I do split screen with my roommates.
58520a No.14563366
>>14563357
oh cool, though its alot nicer with teams of 4.. on PC does it have an option for local lan? that usually works on pirated versions.
c20b37 No.14563376
You can't win with these kind of threads. You pirate games? You are a communist nigger. You buy games? You are a good goy.
6e7da8 No.14563380
>>14563376
>I care about the opinion of random strangers
roastie detected, post ur tits u thot
097d74 No.14563385
>>14563376
>>14563380
Post boigucci instead.
b6605a No.14563387
>>14563376
How about instead of always pirating/always buying you try to decide which developers should you give money to and act accordingly?
Inb4 no one deserves my money
53f648 No.14563388
There are no actual buyfags on this board only endorsements that get paid to shitpost
b5fd7a No.14563396
>>14563376
I buy games if I like the game and the money will go to the dev. If I don't like the game, then duh. If the money won't go to the dev, then why bother?
And in the age of marketing jewery, I won't know the quality of the game unless I play it myself.
56f40e No.14563402
>>14563388
>no actual buyfags on this board
Objectively wrong there are clearly certain types of buyfagotry generally permitted. Anon's typically loved there Dakimakura, the Figurines, and shilling for Intel, AMD, and NVidia.
c31beb No.14563403
3ebc17 No.14563407
>>14563376
How about we talk about the games themselves instead of dragging every single thread down into bullshit arguements about pointless details? No anon is another anon's parent(I hope). No one gives a shit if you bought or pirated it, or that you used youtube instead of hooktube or hooktube instead of webming or webming instead of ascii art. Just fucking talk about the game, if it sucks then say why it sucks, how, what could have been done better and where it was done better, if it's good then explain why you think it's good, post a webm or a video of it being good, JUST TALK ABOUT THE FUCKING VIDEO GAMES
8b920a No.14563412
>>14563407
>How about we talk about the games themselves instead of dragging every single thread down into bullshit arguements about pointless details?
Why?
3ebc17 No.14563421
>>14563412
Because this is a video game board, for video game discussion?
Because it's very enjoyable to have an actual conversation about video games
3b084a No.14563425
>>14563407
>>14563421
The games are propaganda to commit genocide on the West. Fuck the games.
f21e27 No.14563428
Piracy is not inherently a moral good. It's a moral wrong, but it's a very very minor moral wrong. It's not the equivalent of theft, but you aren't doing the world any good by doing it either. Don't act like you're doing the world some service by playing a game without paying for it. You aren't doing anybody a service except for yourself. If your entire position is "I don't give a shit about what happens with the industry or any company that is a part of it, I just don't want to pay for games", fine, but you aren't some noble martyr for it.
If you pirate everything, you don't have any right to complain when a good developer goes under, or yet another dev house gets bought and sacrificed by EA. You don't have the right to complain when games start sucking because their paying audience is retarded liberals instead of the core gamers who aren't actually paying anymore.You don't have the right to complain when a really good game sells like hot fucking garbage because only people like you played it, and it didn't attract the nu-male audience, so no sequels or any other games like it ever get made by the same studio.
You say you want to turn normalfags against buyfaggotry, but that's not going to happen. Maybe your close circle of friends or something, but the vast majority of normalfags are only friends with normalfags, and even those who have somebody trying to convince them will usually just dismiss it as more work the same way that most people shrug off lifting weights and doing cardio as "too much work".
b5fd7a No.14563430
>>14563421
Let's talk games
have you ever found an early access game that was pretty good already?
3ebc17 No.14563431
>>14563425
Explain how the games are a propaganda to commit genocide on the West, anon.
3b084a No.14563437
>>14563431
Lurk more. Holy shit, how are you even here if you don’t know this?
6e7da8 No.14563438
>>14563407
>>14563421
>he doesn't like shitposting
why are you here?
56f40e No.14563442
>>14563421
>Because it's very enjoyable to have an actual conversation about video games
anon if you can't handle a little banter then please fuck off back to reddit. This thread is about the buyfag menace. If you don't like the topic then filter it. Stop being a bloody hypocrite and derailing to complain about how this topic derails other threads. Don't you understand that this help contains that particular autism? In fact /v/ would be vastly improved if there was always a shitposting general cyclical thread, just like how the gamergay generals keep most of the LARPing liberal-homosexuality of Acidman and friends down to a minimum.
3ebc17 No.14563453
>>14563430
I played the demo for Dual Gear and Overload a while back, both currently in early access. Dual Gear's demo was pretty barebones and outside of elaborate animations it didn't really give me much of an idea on how the finished product was going to be like.
Overload is a remake of the original Descent, and I like it. It being a remake of Descent is a cheat but the remake fixed one major issue I had with the original. The vulcan drillers(those machinegunners who attack you instantly, rarely miss and eat through your health in mere seconds) are changed to be fast projectile enemies with less damage, similar to how Descent 2 handled it.
>>14563438
I like shitposting when it's occasional and funny, not the meat of every discussion
7933ad No.14563461
>>14562244
LMAO nigger pirating a repack is a billion times more convenient and downloading some trash unpatched garbage from 2 separate places because muh piracy.
76884d No.14563463
>>14563187
>Corporations need to create products with soul
Maybe in another reality, dumb fuck. They create what sells. So if you don't buy shit you don't have room to complain that everything sucks. Every time a decent game is released you're accused of being a shill for trying to talk about it on not-/v/idya. But keep wasting your time pirating games not you all claim are too shitty to even be worth paying for while being mad at toys.
ef3e30 No.14563470
Making a rough division between "anons" and "normalfags" for the time being, anons do buy games, but as consumers they are far too well informed and adept at getting their money's worth and will simply respond with piracy to shit they don't like. Normalfags are a constant money explosion, sending streams of cash flying in any and all directions so long as there are GRAPHICS or CINEMATIC EXPERIENCES or PAY2WIN or PAY4IDENTITY being promised to tempt them in.
8b920a No.14563474
>>14563442
>In fact /v/ would be vastly improved if there was always a shitposting general cyclical thread
They already exist, they're called nintendo threads.
fdeb80 No.14563475
>>14563463
>They create what sells
Which is why shit like Lawbreakers and Wolfenstein 2 exist right?
>you should pay for trash if you want things to improve
How is that working out for you so far paypig?
ef3e30 No.14563478
>>14563463
>Maybe in another reality, dumb fuck. They create what sells. So if you don't buy shit you don't have room to complain that everything sucks.
>He wants to have a small minority of autists compete with hordes of normalfags in a battle of purchasing power to convince jewish publishers to stop ruining gaming
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
574a1f No.14563479
>>14563470
>PAY4IDENTITY
This is something new.
What does it mean?
ef3e30 No.14563493
>>14563479
Playing dressup with your paid-for fantasy character who you then go and roleplay as in online videogames.
For instance FortNite lets you pay shekels to get an intimidating looking skin which then enables you to go play the game feeling like you have some kind of identity. Or just pic related. Paying money to simulate having an identity is a way of feeling good.
56f40e No.14563494
>>14563479
>PAY4IDENTITY
its just a way of saying people are buying into some brand of Gamer™ identity. Just like how the music industry used to sell identity like Goth™, Grunge™, Punk™, Metal Head™, Hippy™ etc.
6e7da8 No.14563499
>>14563453
The correct answer is just to suffer along with an appropriate image, or webm if you can be arsed. Not knowing memes and taking banter seriously is a sign that you need to lurk moar.
>>14563479
Ugly bitches and their beta male orbiters buying vidya gaems so they can have an Alternative™ identity to protect their fragile ego from having to admit their failure to be a functioning human bean.
>>14563494
goddamnit you beat me to it.
574a1f No.14563503
>>14563493
And how it is bad exactly?
>>14563494
>>14563499
That's a lot of projection.
3ebc17 No.14563519
>>14563499
Banter is fine, but not all the time. It's like those modern hollywood movies where everyone is a sarcastic fuck who quips every minute, every scene, every situation, with every character. It's fine in small doses but when it's the identity of most things it starts to lose any charm.
>>14563503
Spending a gazillion dollars on random skin rolls is bad because it used to be you get skins for actually playing the game, and maybe the skins would have some cool side effect like the spiderman ps1 game.
fdeb80 No.14563524
>>14563503
>And how it is bad exactly?
Developers spend more time making skins than content or features. They have entire infrastructures built around skins and lootboxes but none of them have LAN support or dedicated servers. Look at fucking Valve, every single game since Hat Fortress is just a glorified microtransaction delivery system for them. Rockstar used to release a new game every year but all they've done recently is rerelease the same shit for half a decade and even their newer games are confirmed to have microtransactions.
56f40e No.14563527
>>14563503
>That's a lot of projection
What? Are you unfamiliar with Geek Culture™? The phenomenon of selling superficial identity is nothing new in modernity. I honestly do not see how its "projecting" to point out this fact?
c79222 No.14563530
>>14562132
If you don't want to buy a game then don't buy it and don't pirate it.
If you pirate a game that means that you wanted to play the game and went your way to get it illegally and that is a lost sale.
I don't give a shit if you pirate games or not but please don't try to rationalize piracy.
9a5d1f No.14563533
>>14563519
But spiderman is a singleplayer game where nobody can see your skins.
>>14563524
Usually dev teams have separate division for that sort of thing, but your argument is sound.
>>14563527
>and this is the projection furher beyond
56f40e No.14563544
>>14563533 (wasted)
>ask for explanation
<doubles down on buzzword and though terminating cliches
>>>/cuckchan/
9a5d1f No.14563550
>>14563544
Compare an explanation >>14563524 with your prjoection >>14563527 and try again.
b5fd7a No.14563562
>>14563530
so if I go to my friend and play his game, does that count as a lost sale too? After all, I didn't pay for this game
3b8408 No.14563572
>>14562250
Are the Ni No Kuni games any good? Don't know anything about them except that Hayao In-the-loli's-holey Miyazaki was behind them
eb0412 No.14563575
>>14563562
Yes.
Friends should be illegal.
8b920a No.14563576
>>14563572
Not particularly, unless art style is enough for you. The first one is a mechanically unsound pokemon clone and the new one is a fairly boring action rpg.
56f40e No.14563578
>>14563550
What are you talking about? Anon asked what the term "PAY4IDENTITY" meant. Have you never been to a Hot Topic? Do you really Cliques that wear clothing to virtue signal their identities? What is a Dead Head™ for example? People buy commercial products all the time to as corporate sponsors of their fandoms™. How is pointing that fact out projection?
3ebc17 No.14563579
>>14563533
>But spiderman is a singleplayer game where nobody can see your skins.
If only it were limited to multi games.
8b920a No.14563580
>>14563530
>don't try to rationalize piracy.
I absolutely can and will, easily. I don't think video games are worth paying for, despite them being fun.
6e7da8 No.14563605
>>14563519
Fair enough. I think that for most of us sarcasm is a coping mechanism for dealing with a hostile world.
32ef6d No.14563618
>>14563605
Which is why Jews are so sarcastic, remember the holocaust goyim!
023491 No.14563641
Why would I buy something when it's cheaper and easier to pirate it?
b727c6 No.14563646
>>14563356
you haven't seen any game released with denuvo? even after it gets cracked people act all like its sour grapes because they were denied it for a week
fdeb80 No.14563654
>>14563646
>people not liking shitty games is sour grapes
What the fuck are you even talking about?
Did that make sense in your head?
b727c6 No.14563660
>>14563654
shouldn't you be doing another run of deus ex or EYE right now?
c7c79b No.14563662
>I buy games without testing them first
>I buy clothes without trying them on first
Release demos you fucks. Or are you afraid gentiles have a way to determine beforehand your games are, in fact, shit?
b727c6 No.14563669
>>14563662
yea you keep your receipt and return it if it doesn't work. but get over yourself you know your not buying a game to "see if it works" and really just want it to match your unreasonable expectations of what "fun" is
8b920a No.14563670
>>14563660
Your comeback is to say that he likes decent games?
0122ad No.14563675
>>14563662
If you want to compare trying a demo to trying on clothing, a demo is like trying one sleeve from a shirt. Maybe the rest of the shirt fits, maybe it doesn't, all you know for sure is that the sleeve is nice. Except you don't even know that much because the actual shirt might be different than the sleeve demo anyway.
b727c6 No.14563676
>>14563670
no because they're probably shit
fdeb80 No.14563679
>>14563669
>unreasonable expectations of what "fun" is
>expecting quality is unreasonable
Are you a actually a paypig?
3ebc17 No.14563680
>>14563675
How about verticle slice demos then?
3b084a No.14563683
>>14563669
>yea you keep your receipt and return it if it doesn’t work.
Yeah, they don’t allow returns, you stupid fucking faggot.
b727c6 No.14563687
>>14563679
are you communist?
>>14563683
>living in a country that doesn't allow returns
c7c79b No.14563690
>>14563669
>Return clothing, get money back
>Return game, get steam play money you cannot choose to spend anywhere else
Inb4 "but muh credit card returns". If they want, they can claim "there is a 'problem' with the card you used literally 3 hours ago here have store funds sorrykthxbai". And this jewery is not exclusive to steam either.
fdeb80 No.14563704
>>14563687
>are you communist?
Only a communist would promote mediocrity by rewarding it.
Your hook nosed tricks may work on your shithole regulars but they won't work here.
700ab4 No.14563709
>>14562107
>Why do faggots always show up to demand justification for piracy?
Why is OP a faggot that made a shit thread starting it with an unfounded premise?
3b084a No.14563713
>>14563687
>oy vey pay for the propaganda being used to exterminate your people, culture, and civilization
No.
364cfe No.14563718
>>14562125
I made a lot of money too in last 3 months, but I still see no reason to pay for shitty games
fdeb80 No.14563719
>>14563716
Theres nothing masculine about getting tricked to spend money on digital licenses you don't even own.
0122ad No.14563720
>>14563680
Imagine the shirt you are supposed to "try on" is actually doll-sized. You still have no idea if the real one will fit and you don't know if it will even look the same because at this point it's clear what you have for a sample is an entirely different shirt altogether.
700ab4 No.14563724
>>14563718
>I made a lot of money too in last 3 months, but I still see no reason to pay for shitty games
I think this begs the question why do you play shitty games?
700ab4 No.14563734
>>14563719
>Theres nothing masculine about getting tricked to spend money on digital licenses you don't even own.
Unless you're the man that owns the rights to the work for which you sell the licenses. I always feel breddy manly when people pay me the license fees to use my works.
c7c79b No.14563737
>>14563716
>Send proof of jewery to bank
>Get money back
>Never buy games from steam again
You were sayin'?
>No argument
>Name-calling with datamined insults
This anon glows in the dark.
648ef9 No.14563739
>>14562107
I generally pirate, but hypothetically, the market is catering to the demographic funding it. If the only games that make money are AAA Ubisoft and EA sequels of the month bought by normals, that's all we'll ever get. ie: at least some portion of people with good taste need have to pay for games that deserve it.
b727c6 No.14563740
>>14563719
>implying you own any game discs you buy and they aren't just licensed.
i think you should learn to read the find print on your consoles and pc game discs
3ebc17 No.14563742
>>14563720
I like your shirt analogies. What are DLCs then?
364cfe No.14563745
>>14562281
Made a friend into a full blown pirate.
Feels nice to share torrent links with someone you hang out in real life. And all others I know follow.
648ef9 No.14563746
>>14563739
>need have
ignore that
364cfe No.14563748
>>14563724
To try them and realize that they are shitty.
fdeb80 No.14563754
>>14563740
The games I bought don't come with 13 pages of license agreements and retarded EULAs.
364cfe No.14563760
>>14563755
Shouldn’t make shitty games. Lol.
b727c6 No.14563766
>>14563748
i for one definitely had to pirate gone home before i realized it was crap
>>14563754
they did you just never read them
0122ad No.14563770
>>14563742
Buttons. Whether the shirt was missing buttons from the start or the DLC buttons are totally superfluous could go either way.
b727c6 No.14563786
>>14563779
>making games should be a hobby and free
>wow why does this game have such shitty graphics and bugs everywhere
364cfe No.14563791
>>14563779
>try modern day demo a.k.a. pirate it
>oh is good
>give sheckels
>oh is bad
>no sheckels for you goyim :^)
8b920a No.14563794
>>14563786
Meanwhile, Minecraft is incredibly popular, looks like shit and is a buggy unfinished mess. So clearly it's not as easy as what you are putting forth.
648ef9 No.14563802
>>14563786
I think that if games weren't monetized we'd actually just get much less games, rather than buggier and (significantly) uglier games, because the only people making games would be those passionate about it. Not that I think that's a good idea, commies.
c7c79b No.14563803
>>14563755
Yes.
>I'll write a piece of software with no practical utility and I won't even keep any distribution rights because I sold them to my employer for peanuts
I thought they must be retarded.
88560d No.14563805
>>14563572
>>14563576
Can second this. Ni No Kuni II's alright. It's not bad by any means. It's competent, but it wont blow you out of the water at any point. It looks gorgeous, and I think it's a good enough time, but if I had better games to play, I probably would have dropped this ages ago.
fdeb80 No.14563807
>>14563779
>buy all good games
>doesn't matter because the publishers kill the developers anyway
>new piece of shit gets released
>"you better buy this one goy or it means singleplayer games are dead"
>buy a good game
>it gets updated and microtransaction cancer gets added to it
Such is life for a paypig
b727c6 No.14563811
>>14563794
its different when you market to literal children. my nephews and nieces play minecraft not me. im finding more often when something has popularity i cant understand its for children
fdeb80 No.14563813
>>14563786
>if you pay for it, it must be good
How is that PUBG and DayZ coming up paypig?
8b920a No.14563814
>>14563811
>its different when you market to literal children
I hate to remind you this, but video games are a military training tool that's been turned into a children's toy.
b727c6 No.14563821
>>14563814
i miss when americas army hit a sweet spot of being the best fucking game during americas army 2. then they fucked it all up for 3
648ef9 No.14563822
>>14563814
>video games are a military training tool that's been turned into a
Are you completely unaware of the first video games?
3e77d1 No.14563823
>>14563779
>all the good games
where
ea40ed No.14563833
>>14562845
Is this some kind of advanced “fun is a buzzword” shitpost?
6c437c No.14563835
>>14563779
>like monster hunter
>buy it
>get rewarded with the casual trash heap that is Monster Hunter World
I'm going to pirate it 40000 times. I don't care if Capcom goes under at this point.
fdeb80 No.14563836
>>14563829
>Oh gee, I wonder why publishers kill the developers
Failed hostile takeovers, late payments, devs not complying with the cancer publishers want to shove down your throat.
Take your pick, you'll find countless example of those while none for studios dying because of piracy.
3e77d1 No.14563842
>>14563829
Shit exist becuase of piracy? Or does piracy exist because of shit games?
8b920a No.14563844
>>14563822
The very first video games were made by the US air force during world war 2 and are extremely simple precursors to asteroid.
6c437c No.14563845
>>14563842
Piracy exists because of human nature.
364cfe No.14563868
>>14563829
>he doesn’t play games with replaybility
Such is life of buypiggu
c7c79b No.14563869
>>14563829
Ask dumb questions,etc.
>feels feels feel bad
Are you a woman? Do you have a nonstandard hair colour?
6c437c No.14563874
>>14563829
>Never happens, don't delude yourself. Pirates don't pay for games they have finished. It's a myth and it's perpetuated by pirates who do not want to feel bad about fucking up games for everyone.
Some of them do faggot. I did with Kingdom Come.
648ef9 No.14563882
>>14563844
The machines we're owned by military(Computer's we're only owned by large corporations and governments), but if I remember correctly it was a project done in the free time in one of the Dr's working there.
1ffa43 No.14563885
>>14563829
>Never happens, don't delude yourself. Pirates don't pay for games they have finished. It's a myth and it's perpetuated by pirates who do not want to feel bad about fucking up games for everyone.
Can confirm I've never done it.
d30d55 No.14563886
Obviously 99% of mainstream games are shit and you should never give them money, or free advertising for that matter. But if you never buy anything at all, how are the few good devs supposed to keep making games? Just live on welfare like niggers?
364cfe No.14563893
>>14563886
Go back to the roots
fdeb80 No.14563895
>>14563865
>hostile take overs happen because of unsatisfactory financial reports and/or late payments
What the fuck are you talking about? Contract developers don't have to make financial reports or payments to publishers, its the complete opposite. You are a retard who doesn't know shit.
>Devs suffer financially because of piracy and they fail to meet quotas
How does that even work out in your head?
Sales quotas are not a developer's responsibility. They never have been.
No wonder you are a paypig with how stupid you are.
c7c79b No.14563896
b727c6 No.14563900
>>14563896
make a patreon/donation link and live off of begging for money from autists?
d30d55 No.14563901
>>14563896
He gets by on people giving him money. Dunno what point you're trying to make.
>>14563893
You mean people coding simple games like pong? Impressive for its time, sure, but nobody is going to pay for pong or snake today.
364cfe No.14563905
>>14563901
Not that far back.
Early 00s late 90s
efc1ab No.14563910
>>14563845
Niggers arent human
8b920a No.14563917
>>14563829
>fucking up games for everyone.
That onus is on the game designers, not people who refuse to be their audience. You're essentially saying that people not going to movies ruined movies.
c7c79b No.14563924
>>14563900
It works, maybe it has to do with there being a huge deal of people that consider DF a great game. I figured he's part of that 1%.
d30d55 No.14563928
>>14563905
I don't see the point you're trying to make here. Hobbyists making games in their spare time away from their fulltime jobs? Nothing wrong with that but a man should be paid for his work if he's producing something of value. Even if its just on a donation basis like Toady.
b727c6 No.14563931
>>14563924
and you think the entire market of games should run off of e-begging campaigns?
063fa9 No.14563950
>>14563779
>buy good game
>dev gives me the middle finger a few years later and start pandering to a broader audience
364cfe No.14563951
>>14563928
No, I mean how all good games were created.
Independent developers making their autistic dreams come true.
d30d55 No.14563957
>>14563951
But how do they do that without money? Even if they do all the work on the game themselves, don't hire any artists or anything like that, they've still got bills to pay, rent, groceries, shit like that.
fdeb80 No.14563968
>>14563957
That isn't the problem of the consumer. Shit like Kikestarter and early access shouldn't exist.
38b8ef No.14563969
>>14563779
>pirate all games because I want to save money for bills, food, guns and munitions
>good devs die off
>don't care because I still have an ocean of good old childhood games
Really makes you think
364cfe No.14563977
>>14563957
Everything or nothing friend.
Glory or death.
Tolkien wrote a poem everytime one of his old friends died.
One by one they fell in the trenches.
Did he moan about getting syphilis?
Did he moan while creating two languages, and the founding stone of a fictional universe in his hospital bed?
Is he forgoten?
Don’t be forgotten fren.
d30d55 No.14563980
>>14563968
It becomes the consumer's problem when good devs stop making good games because they're broke, but big companies keep pumping out garbage because they've got the cash and plenty of dumbfucks pay for their garbage.
Basically you're saying you deserve good games for free, and that's some kike bullshit. If a dev has plenty of money and gives away his work for free then that's great, but most can't afford to put years of their time into something and get nothing in return.
f21e27 No.14563986
>>14563977
I mean, he also had a regular job and did most of his writing for money, not to mention made the vast majority of his money from people buying his published books. It's not like he did all of his writing for free.
fdeb80 No.14563989
>>14563980
>It becomes the consumer's problem when good devs stop making good games because they're broke
Nope
Play old games then and wait for the trash fire that is the industry to burn out. Trying to put more money in that fire that is the games industry is only going to invite more people to get burned.
364cfe No.14563993
>>14563986
Yes, but he didn’t have a kike publisher telling him exactly what to write.
He wrote his shit himself and was independent.
“””””Publishers””””” are killing the industry.
296410 No.14563997
>>14563931
>Answer to anon about what works for the specific 1% of devs who make great games
>Lol faggot thinks this will work for everyone
Most of everything is trash. It follows that it should die off as customers see it like the shit it is and refrain from buying it. Unable to foster and create talent, the industry decided instead to seize all the means for the consumer to inform itself: demos, vidya reviews, etc. Hence the rise of illegal downloads. Make good games and release demos of them, that tends to work.
56f40e No.14564000
>>14563807
>>14563950
if a good dev goes bad and starts making garbage games then they are no longer good dev's nor good games so you the logic doesn't fallow. Nobody is saying you need to be a blind consumer.
>>14563969
>have hundreds of thousands of hours of emulating superior bing bing wahoo and shoryuken yatta to fall back on to care about modern games.
this too
d30d55 No.14564006
>>14563989
>nope
Not an argument.
I'm not saying you should buy Cod 6 or AssCreed 4 to support the game industry. I'm talking about giving money to good devs that make good games so they can keep making good games. You're a selfish fuck and dressing it up as being some crusader against the mainstream vidya industry, which literally nobody is defending, doesn't make it any better.
If you like Dwarf Fortress and you have some extra money, is it not a good idea to give him something so he can keep working on it? Not even from some altruistic motive, it's in your best interest to support devs you like so they can make more shit you like.
bed821 No.14564015
ONLY buy top tier games like Ni No Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, Dragon Quest etc.
DO NOT buy remakes, even if they are excellent games (ZoE2 VR - PachinKonami)
AVOID buying fapbait at full price, even if it's very high quality (Near A Tomato)
Failure to follow these simple instructions will result in the death of fucking VIDYA.
And remember, don't actually buy video games, buy good books and manga instead.
Have a good day.
7cb181 No.14564018
>>14563572
I'm enjoying the second one, so far. But it's a pretty typical Level 5 game, and not as good as Dark Cloud 2.
(Typical Level 5 stuff)
>metric shit tons of side content
>relatively deep minigames (some sort of bastardized sub-RTS and base building/management, in this case)
>Items and crafting galore, tied directly to character growth
>Tepid characters and story
There's some novelty in the fact that it's an isekai featuring the president of the united states mentoring a effeminate cat boy, but…
It has a world map
fdeb80 No.14564020
>>14564006
>is it not a good idea to give him something so he can keep working on it
No because he already makes more than I make
I am not a retard who thinks "donating" to people richer than me is a good idea. Do you donate to twitch streamers too? After all they are giving you free entertainment.
f21e27 No.14564024
>>14563989
It's like you don't understand the basic tenets of a market economy.
>>14563993
He had a publisher. He was not Independent. You've got an argument about heavy-handed publishers interfering with the process, but if your whole point is that publishers should not exist, you're pretty mistaken unless you want Kickstarter to be the only way to get games made other than random autists putting out a good game every 10 years because they were working in their free time (Cave Story took 5, but Pixel was really dedicated).
Making a video game takes significantly more man-hours than writing a book. Some writers can shit out a book in under a month. No one-man developer can shit out a good, complete, unique game in under a year, let alone a month.
d30d55 No.14564028
>>14564015
Exactly. Spend money to support good practices, don't spend money supporting bullshit. And if you don't have any money, then just pirate everything, no big deal. I don't see why people struggle with this concept.
>>14564020
Well anon if you're broke then of course you shouldn't spend money on shit you don't need. I'm talking about if you have some cash to spare, it's worthwhile to pay for shit from people who made good shit.
648ef9 No.14564035
>>14564006
This. Market is driven by consumers, if there's more money in making good game, that's what will be developed. Unfortunately people with good taste are a minority in terms of market share, and that's ignoring the fact that most on /v/ won't pay for a game, even if they enjoyed it.
364cfe No.14564041
>>14564024
Mate, read what I write.
I put publisher and “”””publisher”””” in quotes, because they are different.
Y’know what I’m saying ay?
One is a platform for people to publish on the other is a “”””publisher”””” who effectively owns you.
8b920a No.14564052
>>14564006
>You're a selfish fuck
How is he selfish for not funding your hobby?
da2dac No.14564055
anons need to understand (and some of them do) that IF you can get something for free then paying for it is nothing more then a charity
I am not opposed to charity, do with your money as you wish but dont pretend you have some moral high ground
364cfe No.14564057
>>14564055
Nobody pretend to.
That’s why apeal to emonition is ineffective.
d836bd No.14564061
>>14564015
>implying any of those are good
8b920a No.14564067
>>14564061
All of those series are pretty middling, honestly. Valkyria Chronicles is only well regarded because the first one and even that isn't particularly good. Especially with all the historical revisionism to protect the (((Darcsen))).
bed821 No.14564070
>>14564061
That's what I just did and you can't do anything to stop me, except whining like a little bitch.
f21e27 No.14564073
>>14564041
I agree with you there, but there aren't a lot of alternatives. It's not like music where there are tons of tiny independent record houses who won't fuck with you, and you have lots of choices. As an unowned dev shop with, your choices are a big publisher who's going to ream you inside out, Kickstarter which is a dumpster fire, or taking loans and going into massive debt on the prayer that your game will sell enough to become profitable. The situation would be better if we had the equivalent of independent record companies; small publisher shops dedicated to publishing games from niche developers for niche markets. There are a few of those, but not nearly enough to support what the market could be.
>>14564052
I think the implication is that he's selfish for not funding his own hobby. Thinking you deserve something for nothing is pretty selfish no matter how you slice it.
d30d55 No.14564083
>>14564052
It's selfish to expect people to put a lot of their own time and effort into making something of value, something that you enjoy, and then turn around and act like they don't deserve anything for their work. If you can't afford it then yeah no shit just pirate. But if you can, and you enjoyed the game that they made, then it's selfish to expect them to make more good shit for you for free.
Defending it as just being rational (why pay for something when I can get it for free?) is jewish bullshit. Good men trade value with each other, they don't expect other men to make shit and give it to them for free because they deserve it somehow. I'm saying he's selfish for not funding his own hobby, he's enjoying the fruits of other people's labor while offering nothing in return.
296410 No.14564086
>>14564055
>I can take your car for free at gunpoint, it would be charity from me to buy it from you
>(1)
Obvious sockpuppet strawman is obvious.
d30d55 No.14564097
>>14564086
>you wouldn't download a car
C'mon anon, you can make a stronger argument than that. That just leads to the whole finite physical goods vs infinite digital goods argument.
da2dac No.14564098
>>14564086
thats a bit different since you are stealing and threatening, thats an agression
you still could do it, but it would invite untoward consequences to you aka it isnt "free"
8b920a No.14564107
>>14564073
>and then turn around and act like they don't deserve anything for their work.
You are not entitled to another person's money. Period. If I don't think something is worth paying for, that's my right, as it's my money.
9e8ee3 No.14564115
NEVER BUY ANY GAME
unless
>you know the devs are good devs
>the practices are pro-consumer
>the price is fair for its value
Example of game worth buying: Hollow Knight. 10 dollars for 40+ hours of gameplay. Free DLC. Still updating it. Devs talk to fans on forums.
Example of game not worth buying:
Any arc sys game with an initial roster of 5 characters and a DLC roster of 100 episodically released to maximize sales.
d30d55 No.14564118
>>14564107
Again, you're arguing against something nobody said. The point is that if you think they've created something of value, and if you have something of value to offer in return, then you should make that exchange. And also, even if you're operating purely on self interest, then giving them something of value in return helps them make more good shit for you to enjoy. Absolutely nobody is saying any dev who shits out some pixelshit indie adventure is entitled to your money.
296410 No.14564122
>>14564097
Which is the obvious distraction the industry resorts to in order to remain one of the few non-fungible goods industry who gets away selling games without a right to test them.
f21e27 No.14564123
>>14564107
I think you misfired with your quote, but I'll respond anyway.
They aren't entitled to your money, and you aren't entitled to another person's labor, period. I'm not anti-piracy, and I think it's a good balance of a broken market here, but the disconnect here is between your correct "I don't have to pay for something I don't want to pay for" and your incorrect "but I should get it anyway".
> If I don't think something is worth paying for, that's my right, as it's my money
Yes, but pirating isn't your right. You can get away with it, and you probably won't get in trouble, but you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "right". You aren't entitled to not pay for a product you consume just because you can get away with it.
da2dac No.14564133
>>14564123
>you are not entitled to someone elses labor
true and fair, too bad they already gave it away faggot
d30d55 No.14564137
>>14564122
If the game is shit then don't buy it. If they don't offer a demo and you can't find any videos to watch to give you a good idea of the quality of the game, or if you'd just rather see for yourself, then pirate and decide for yourself whether it deserves your money or not.
>>14564133
Spoken like a nigger.
da2dac No.14564144
>>14564137
fuck off kike you are not entitled to my money
f21e27 No.14564147
>>14564133
Like I said, I don't give a shit if you pirate, just don't act like some hero saving the industry for it. You aren't a martyr or a moral champion by getting something for free that you weren't intended to. You aren't in the moral right by not supporting shitty practices unless you actually abstain from the product itself.
It's like sneaking into a movie theater and trying to take the moral high ground for not supporting shitty movies that you still want to consume for some reason.
d30d55 No.14564155
>>14564144
And you aren't entitled to the fruits of another man's labor just because you can get it for free. You can steal shit from stores too, enjoying something that you consider valuable, without giving anything in return. Doesn't mean you should.
>calling me a kike
>when you're the one saying the world owes you shit for free
f21e27 No.14564160
>>14564155
Pretty sure he's baiting at this point. Calling other people kikes as a defense for not wanting to pay for anything and wanting to get everything for free is almost poetically ironic.
da2dac No.14564163
>>14564155
your the one asking for shit for free, I am taking what is given
>>14564160
I called him a kike because he is hounding after my money for nothing in return
d30d55 No.14564165
>>14564160
You're probably right.
8b920a No.14564167
>>14564123
>you aren't entitled to another person's labor, period
If it is available for free I certainly am.
134061 No.14564174
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>>14562147
>inb4 justification for being a poorfag, i don't care what any of you anons say, the truth is you're all just sour grapes.
Le you are all poor comment.
Fuck off back to reddit, you shitskin shubhuman nigger.
also reported.
7e0c12 No.14564177
Learning today how much worse Krita is than photoshop. Can't even change text color during editing, and can't change how big is space between lines of text. What a garbage application. Font always resets to default too with each new text box.
d30d55 No.14564179
>>14564167
I could break into your house and steal your TV for free, am I entitled to it? Maybe a more accurate metaphor would be that if you were to create something of value unlikely that required a decent amount of time and effort, and maybe even expenses on your part, and I could steal it or copy it while giving you absolutely nothing in return, am I entitled to do so?
da2dac No.14564191
>>14564179
if I post my OC on the internet then it is free to you despite me spending my time on it
if you ask me to make OC then I can demand money in exchange for my labor
fdeb80 No.14564201
>>14564179
>I could break into your house and steal your TV for free
Try it and get shot.
d30d55 No.14564207
>>14564191
Making OC is different than spending years making a game, unless you're making some crazy OC I guess. But we're not talking about people who gave it away for free, we're talking about people who are selling games they made. What if I asked you to make OC, you made it, I thought it was great, and then I took it and gave you nothing? About the same thing.
>>14564201
Don't worry, I'll steal your gun first. Then I'm entitled to all your labor, I can just hold you at gunpoint with your own gun and have you make things for me.
8b920a No.14564218
>>14564179
The proper analogy would be you breaking into my house, copying an object, then leaving without any damage being done to the house or object.
fdeb80 No.14564222
>>14564207
>Don't worry, I'll steal your gun first
Try it and get shot
da2dac No.14564223
>>14564207
there is nothing that makes making a video game different from making anything else
if we have an agreement (a contract) that you will pay me after I make something for you and you dont then it is breach of contract, if we have no such agreement then I am either a fool or knowingly doing it for free, and its the same with people who make vidya
016dd1 No.14564224
>>14564218
Close, but a better analogy would be if you left your TV on the lawn outside, I walked up and copied it leaving your TV exactly how it was, and then walked away having never interacted with you.
8b920a No.14564228
d30d55 No.14564238
>>14564224
>>14564218
Difference is that you made that TV yourself in hopes of getting paid for your work and the skill involved.
>>14564223
So if you don't enter into a contract with a guy before he makes the TV, you're entitled to just take that TV, or copy it, after he finishes making it?
da2dac No.14564243
>>14564238
no because a TV is his property
you are making the argument that if you graffiti my wall I am entitled to pay you for the privilege
d30d55 No.14564246
You can't simultaneously complain about all games being shit while also complaining that you should never have to pay anything. Maybe that works in your communist utopia where the government provides for all game developers.
8b920a No.14564248
>>14564238
>Difference is that you made that TV yourself in hopes of getting paid for your work and the skill involved.
Makes no difference. You are not entitled to "potential sales."
d30d55 No.14564250
>>14564243
What the fuck are you even talking about? This analogy is getting out of hand.
>>14564248
So why should they make games for you to enjoy?
8b920a No.14564253
>>14564246
>Maybe that works in your communist utopia where the government provides for all game developers.
Anon the influx of communists and state funding is one of the major factors that has ruined games.
b6605a No.14564260
>>14564177
Krita's text tool is fucking garbage, the rest of the program is good though.
d30d55 No.14564261
>>14564253
And if the alternative is capitalism, where people get paid for their labor and the value they create, but people refuse to pay them, where does that leave us?
8b920a No.14564270
>>14564250
>So why should they make games for you to enjoy?
They're not making them "for me to enjoy", they're making them because they either have artistic drive to create or are chasing profit. Your attempts to personalize this are almost as sad as your inability to grasp that you simply can't compare digital piracy to material theft.
8b920a No.14564273
>>14564261
>where does that leave us?
At capitalism functioning exactly as it is intended.
da2dac No.14564276
>>14564250
either because you want to or someone promised to pay you
thats how all art works, by fucking commission or by passion
>>14564261
you are just describing communism again here
016dd1 No.14564279
>>14564238
I took a shit yesterday in the hopes of getting paid for all the work and skill my digestive system displayed in crafting it. Yesterday some ugly fuck asked a girl out in the hopes of getting laid for all the time he spent watching my little pony.
Weird how your expectations don't really mean shit, huh?
>>14564246
>>14564250
Complain about games being shit, refuse to pay for them, play freeware.
Should or shouldn't doesn't enter into it. People WILL make games for me to enjoy no matter what. Just like people will make music for me to enjoy, or paintings for me to enjoy, or jokes or limericks or flavours of pop. Regardless of if i pay them or not. They'll keep doing it. They always have and always will.
d30d55 No.14564282
>>14564270
So what's your ideal solution then? Devs make games, which you consider valuable enough to pirate but not valuable enough to compensate them for their work, and then?
>>14564273
You mean with nobody making anything because niggers will just steal it anyway? Yeah that's working great for Africa.
da2dac No.14564283
>>14564282
but people do make things
are you retarded?
8b920a No.14564289
>>14564282
>You mean with nobody making anything because niggers will just steal it anyway
And yet there are more video games being made now than any time before. It's almost like piracy doesn't actually harm the market.
d30d55 No.14564291
>>14564283
Are you retarded? On one hand you bitch that the industry is nothing but bullshit, and on the other you say you shouldn't support what little good shit there is.
How are smalltime independent devs trying to make good games, games they're passionate about, supposed to make those games if dumb fucks like you refuse to pay for them? Are they supposed to work normal fulltime jobs and then make shit for you to enjoy for free in what little free time they have? Why?
d30d55 No.14564295
>>14564289
And all those games are great, aren't they. I'm not talking about the market you illiterate fuck, I'm talking about pirating shit from devs whose shit you thought valuable and enjoyed but you don't think they should get anything in return, they should just be grateful they had the opportunity to create something for your pleasure.
da2dac No.14564297
>>14564291
firstly they could work on commission, they could survive on charity as many do, or they could do it as a hobby
occasionally I will actually support an artist charity especially for games, I am far more likely to if they dont have a publisher taking a cut of the profit when I give to them
fdeb80 No.14564303
>>14564282
>which you consider valuable enough to pirate
>pirating something means you think its valuable
Maybe they should start releasing demos then.
8b920a No.14564307
>>14564295
> I'm not talking about the market
Yes, you are, you stupid shit. Look at the last thing you fucking posted.
>>14564282
<You mean with nobody making anything because niggers will just steal it anyway?
You can't even keep your own fucking rhetoric straight for two minutes and you have the gall to lecture other people on morality.
2c918a No.14564308
The main problem will always be on educated consumers that get suckered in by cheesy marketing. Or Wales way to more money than common sense. Short-sighted companies are always chasing after the same people instead of their actual customers that just want to play a decent game
d30d55 No.14564314
>>14564297
>they should work on commission
Closest thing to that is kikestarter, they don't make the game until they get paid for it. Is that what you like?
>survive on charity
Giving money to Toady isn't really charity, because you're not just giving it to him for free, he's made something of value in return for your money.
>they could do it as a hobby
That's fine and dandy, but making games as a hobby in your spare time either means you can only make very simple games, or you'll be working on the same shit for 10 years.
>>14564303
What do demos have to do with paying for a game you enjoyed? Pirating to decide whether the game is worthy of your money is fine, but that's not what we're talking about here.
>>14564307
I'm not talking about morals, though I do think you're a greedy kike bastard. Maybe you should read the fucking thread. If you like the stuff a person makes, giving them money helps them make more shit that you enjoy. It's very simple.
fdeb80 No.14564318
>>14564307
He is a desperate paypig, he holds no principles and will move goalposts whenever its convenient because he has his investment to keep in mind.
>>14564314
>What do demos have to do with paying for a game you enjoyed
How would I know that I will enjoy a game if I can't even play it?
d30d55 No.14564323
>>14564318
>How would I know that I will enjoy a game if I can't even play it?
Then pirate it, decide if it's worth your money, and act accordingly. Nobody said otherwise.
3e77d1 No.14564330
>>14563865
Yet it didn't impact the quality of games. Great games were stil being produced and released on a monthly basis. Maybe piracy doesn't have anything to do with the current state of the industry. Maybe overly greedy publishers and talentless directors/producers are hurting the industry far more than piracy could ever hope.
d30d55 No.14564334
>>14564330
>Great games were stil being produced and released on a monthly basis
Thanks to the people that pay for them. I'm not saying piracy hurts the industry, I'm saying that if you can afford it, it's in your own best interest to pay for shit that you like so they can make more shit that you like.
fdeb80 No.14564338
>>14564323
>Then pirate it, decide if it's worth your money, and act accordingly. Nobody said otherwise.
Nobody apart from you who seems to be throwing a hissy fit when people pirate games.
d30d55 No.14564343
>>14564338
Except I never said that, dumbass. I pirate shit all the time, I've paid for a handful of games in the past 5 years. Quit arguing from emotion and be reasonable.
8b920a No.14564391
>>14564343
>Quit arguing from emotion
Says the faggot who literally said "I will steal your gun and force you to work for me."
3e77d1 No.14564405
>>14564334
>Thanks to the people that pay for them
Nah. I think there was simply more talent and better priorities back then. I don't think sales had an impact on game quality.
fb5df1 No.14564429
>>14562107
>>14563376
more like playing any games makes you the very best of the eunuch subclass of fuccboi goyim.
cd8ca5 No.14564447
-Always pirate. Never buy.
-Always subvert the marketing and make games look infinitely more shit than they are perceived to be.
-All games that can't be pirated are shit. Only when piracy is available, then maybe some of them will be good.
>>14562107 (OP)
Because idiots get attached to what they bought, to try (and always fail) to not look like the idiots that they are.
Piracy is good for those who pirate, and thus, it is ok to pirate.
The industry WILL crash. The spending power of whales is not infinite, and the industry is hated enough to not being able to renovate their customer base. The crash is inevitable.
You need to understand that: when shills are in full force, that is because the industry is failing hard, and the shills' owners know that. When everything is fine, the industry does not need so many shills.
So, keep pushing and keep spreading everything that can ruin sales and profit for the companies. Normalfags are listening more, and are avoiding purchases even more. When the whales are taken out or can't purchase anymore (and it will be soon), companies will be ruined, and that will be a good thing for the rest of us.
Know that: if there are shills, everything is sinking.
>>14562116
The industry can fuck themselves. They are all numales and feminists.
Pirate everything.
>>14562125
I make a lot of money, and i pirate everything that i can.
I never spend money on any form of entertainment. But it get all the entertainment that i want, either by piracy or by circumventing payment (when services are involved).
Money spent on entertainment is wasted money. But entertainment itself is good. Get it for free, always.
f21e27 No.14564456
>>14564391
>Ctrl-F "I will steal your gun and force you to work for me"
> Only your post
You don't appear to understand what quotation marks are for, or what the word "literally" means.
95134f No.14564488
>>14563493
are you a fucking dumb ass you can earn those coins in the save the world game mode.
50bc5c No.14564504
>"BAAAAWWWWWW ME WANT FREE GIBS"
Fuck off commie, this is an American board.
8b920a No.14564512
>>14564456
Wow anon, so distinct.
>>14564207
<I can just hold you at gunpoint with your own gun and have you make things for me.
fe380d No.14564520
>>14564015
>buy niño cunny
>avoid fapbait
d30d55 No.14564534
>>14564391
Because I was clearly 100% serious when I said that. Honest question anon, are you autistic?
1dceff No.14564540
>>14562107
The last game I bought was Kingdom Come, played it for an hour, then refunded it. Last game I "pirated" was Super Mario Sunshine, did what is it 50 suns before the place gets flooded and you go bash the fash out of his capitalistic hot tube to beat the game? I was jokingly saying in the DQ11 thread that I would pre purchase day one buy the game, in hind sight I will probably either pirate it or wait for a good sale. It fucking sucks it won't come to GoG, but getting the rip and a crack version for my harddrive is okay as well.
My biggest complaint right now is I have hit a dry spell were I do not want to play anything right now and am just reading and watching super old TV shows. As for the "buyfag menace", I am an Oldfag and as much as I would like to go back to Shareware practices of old Dos PC days, that will never happen, so its Pirate as a demo stance, then if its good, buy it on sale cause no fucking video game should be over 20-40$.
1dceff No.14564556
That being said, GOG is as much as shit as Steam now. DosBox skinning faggots.
ddf8c6 No.14564601
>>14562107
Why do you need to morally justify piracy? If you don't wanna give (or don't have) money for games, that's fine. It reeks of insecurities when you have to come up with legal jargon and boogeymen to find a reason to steal games. This place has truly gone to shit if these are the serious discussions we're having.
1dceff No.14564620
>>14564601
It's not theft though, its a copy of a copy.
Fuck off.
d30d55 No.14564634
>>14564620
How new are you to think that there's anyone here that isn't completely aware of that.
ddf8c6 No.14564639
>>14564620
>It's not theft though, its a copy of a copy.
Using a product without paying for it is theft. Just because "hurr durr its a copy" doesn't make it any different. You're didn't compensate the people selling it.
da2dac No.14564656
bc5d6f No.14564661
>>14562116
it does nothing to the industry. If someone doesn't think something's worth buying, they won't buy it. They aren't customers, and griping that you can't have everyone's money is entitled and childish. Make something good and people will buy it, end of story.
ddf8c6 No.14564672
>>14564656
A hypothetical videogame sold by hypothetical developers that a hypothetical you hypothetically stole.
da2dac No.14564676
>>14564672
videogames are merely information, they cannot be property
1dceff No.14564682
>>14564656
>>14564672
>>14564639
>>14564634
I am not new and trust me there are fuckton of new fags here.
Case and point.
d30d55 No.14564686
>>14564661
>Make something good and people will buy it, end of story
If this thread is anything to go by, that's not true at all.
364cfe No.14564695
>>14564672
Read the EULA of any modern game.
You don’t even own a copy.
You own a license to play that copy.
ddf8c6 No.14564721
>>14564676
Well shit, everything is information when you think about it. Software can be property legally owned and sold.
>>14564682
So you don't have an argument? Next time just admit the truth.
>>14564695
>You own a license to play that copy.
Yes, they allow you to install and use one copy of the game. This is how you sell digital games.
da2dac No.14564725
>>14564721
software cannot be property as it cannot be contained
ddf8c6 No.14564757
>>14564725
>software cannot be property as it cannot be contained
Software is an intangible asset with it's rights owned by the creator or some other entity or person.
da2dac No.14564766
>>14564757
go ahead and tell me why I cant copyright your soul then faggot
1dceff No.14564771
>>14564721
A copy of a copy is not theft. That is my argument, you have refuted this statement.
Now get the fuck out newfag.
1dceff No.14564773
ddf8c6 No.14564778
>>14564766
Because it's not yours and it doesn't exist. I can sign it off to you however.
>>14564771
>you have refuted this statement.
You're god-damn right I did.
da2dac No.14564790
>>14564778
>it dosnt exist
then why can I copyright anything?
ddf8c6 No.14564815
>>14564790
You can't. It's a grey area, but something needs to have enough "originality" to be allowed a copyright.
You can patent and sell your soul, but it needs value to be sold.
0e6c8c No.14564849
Reminder that consolefags are the penultimate plebs.
d30d55 No.14564858
>>14564849
>he says posting a 4chan gif
Good bait anon, but a little too obvious.
edd036 No.14565065
>>14564682
wow why should i pay for a book its just a copy of a copy :^)
09ef74 No.14565107
>>14562421
>Not playing Tactics
You fucking nigger It's a joke, I get what you meant, mate
8fb0ce No.14565130
>>14562250
Buyfagging does not dictates what the market wants, it dictates what the market GETS. Voting with your wallet is a good euphemism because, just like voting in a large election, your money alone is an insignificant drop in the bucket. Your purchases mean nothing next to normalfags who fall for the same advertising tricks over and over again.
If you truly wish to see a developer/publisher get paid, convince others to buy it instead. Pay them with advertising labor instead of cash - a friend's opinion is worth far more than a banner ad or TV spot. Even an hour of shilling the game to receptive buyfags (i.e. not /v/) could go further than a $60 purchase.
>>14563530
>If you pirate a game that means that you wanted to play the game and went your way to get it illegally and that is a lost sale.
Not if you weren't willing to pay the amount they're charging for it. There are games I would happily pay for if they went down in price, and given the oversaturation of the market, it's almost a given that they will.
09ef74 No.14565171
>>14563829
>"Never happens, don't delude yourself. Pirates don't pay for games they have finished. It's a myth and it's perpetuated by pirates who do not want to feel bad about fucking up games for everyone."
I did with Risk of Rain I bought the game twice, both on PC and PSVita
cd8ca5 No.14565194
>>14564504
Impotent soyboy won't have our money.
But we will have your products for free.
>>14564207
If it was done to me, i would complain.
Since i don't work making games, i will steal them from devs and companies.
Stay mad.
>>14564639
and that is a good thing. For us.
Which makes it right.
Fuck off.
>>14564661
Even if it's good, i won't buy it.
But i will get it for free.
>>14564686
You have no power over us.
We can do whatever we want, including get games for free all the time.
>>14564721
And that is why it is ok to pirate them.
>>14564815
Even better: ignore the patent and get the product for free without compensating it's creators.
>>14565065
You should not.
You should get it for free, scanned.
Why pay when it is free?
>>14565130
The reverse is even better: make normalfags stop buying and start pirating.
edd036 No.14565202
>>14565171
i did it with about a quarter of my game library
>>14565194
>Why pay when it is free?
so i don't end up like faggots here going "why wasn't there a sequel to this really good game everyone pirated"
4eef47 No.14565274
>>14563779
Where has this actually happened? As in a developer dying specifically due to piracy. The last developer that I really liked that died was Neverland, the makers of Rune Factory and Lufia. Rune Factory 4, their last game, made profit and they still died off for various reasons explained below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dORijkypEC8
>>14563829
>Oh gee, I wonder why publishers kill the developers? Maybe because all their potential sales got fucked by piracy so their stock worth went belly up and some random shitters buy them off and tack on their label on a new team.
Kill yourself nigger. That's not what happens and you know it. Most of the western video game industry has been slaughtered by EA and Activision. A giant like EA can buy the stocks of a company and effectively own it or buy a company that owns another to get said company like they did with Bioware. Then they proceed to fuck up everything for a quick buck because they realize they don't need to put out a quality product to make a fanbase. The company they bought already has a fanbase and now they'll appeal to what's trending to get the biggest audience possible. Piracy has always been their scapegoat excuse for when people don't buy their garbage.
>>14563886
Why is it always treated like a black and white situation? As if everyone will or will not pirate. Most devs fall not because they didn't make enough money, but because they mismanaged the product or made something no one wanted. Spending too much money here or there is an easy way to bloat your budget. We can see this with so many failed kickstarter projects. They get all the money they need and more and they still manage to fuck things up again and again.
fc0a63 No.14565816
None of you understand how capitalism works. The second everyone starts pirating, the gaming industry dies. You stupid fucking imbeciles and morons.
If you want to enjoy pirating games while you still have the opportunity (before faggots like OP spread the word enough to ruin it for everyone), do it now and keep it a secret.
fe380d No.14565832
>>14565816
t. music composer 300 years ago
bc5d6f No.14566046
>>14565816
>the second everyone starts pirating, the overblown, overbloated, cinematic fetishist AAA industry dies
ftfy mofo gtfo
It'll be relegated to hobbyists who make their own games for fun, or it'll go the way of music albums and rely on advertising-by-play or some other monetization thing, either way, AAA industry is dead and we have our games back. I have no love for the industry, love's only the games made by people who cared.
1553c0 No.14567202
>>14562992
For games https://www.skidrowreloaded.com/
For movies and games https://rarbgmirror.org/torrents.php?category=1;27;28;29;30;31;32;40
And anything you can't find there just run through The Pirate Bay by most seeds
1186a0 No.14567678
>>14565816
>None of you understand how capitalism works. The second everyone starts pirating, the gaming industry dies.
This would be pretty great. Please pirate everything.
197b37 No.14567902
>>14563474
Nintendo threads are no fun allowed zones. Go ahead, without derailing offhand mention that Breath of the Wild is shit and the fat kike will mash his greasy fingers into that ban button.
>>14563533
>talking about old ass fucking "geek culture" identity trend
>lol just projection
How? What? Fuck this shithole, the next exodus cannot come soon enough.
>>14563989
You see I actually disagree. I believe in brute forcing our way into the industry and burning it down from the inside out. And we rise out of it like a Phoenix. Essentially the idea of making our own superior games and lambasting everything the jews stand for in entertainment and doing it over and over again. We are in luck, trust in the MSM and their gaming puppets is at an all time low and it's getting worse.
Subvert the normalfags
cd8ca5 No.14568826
>>14565202
Easily solved (and already in practice): attack the company when it tries to abandon a sequel that you wanted.
Demand from them, get their product for free, give nothing in return and organize attacks, boycotts, leaked info raids and exposed lies raids, if they even dare to not attend to your every demand.
This is being done already, and it always work, either by the company bowing to our will (and still not selling, hehehe) or by the company's sales and profit being ruined, along with it's reputation before normalfags.
We can do whatever we want, and the companies are the ones that must obey us. Not the other way around.
>>14565274
Even if a developer dies from piracy, it is of no concern.
There will always be new, young idiots to replace them, and for us to pirate their products.
>>14563886
Why pay them at all? Enslave them.
If nothing else is created ever again, no problem. We already have good games for our entire lives.
>>14565816
The industry dying completely will be a good thing.
They started to treat their own customers like enemies, so we are reacting now.
Stay mad.
Also: i have plenty of capital and assets, but i never spend money on entertainment. It is good to have entertainment, but always for free.
>>14565832
That must become the norm again.
>>14566046
This. Entertainment must be done only by those who passionately love their work, to the point of not wanting compensation for creating.
And they always must be kept low, for when they grow and receive money, they always become the greedy corporate suits of today.
>>14567678
This.
Spread the practice of piracy to all normalfags, so most of them start pirating and contribute to end this shitty industry as it is today.
>>14567902
This.
Subvert everything that fuels money to jews.
Subvert normalfags.
Subvert marketing.