/v/ - Video Games

Tutorials are cancer, and completely redundant when they are all text and the game came with a manual.

>>14554805

There were a few games I can't recall where I skipped the tutorial and ended up not using techniques that would have helped a ton had I known about them. Since that happened, I always go through the tutorial. Plus nowadays, since no one does them ever, you usually get some kind of in-game resource just for doing them.

I always play the tutorial first, if it's available. I would rather more games had tutorials available and optional on the main menu, rather than turning the first two hours of the actual game into an unskippable tutorial.

Only once has a tutorial ever shown me something that I would have rather found out on my own, or not seen at all until necessary. Half-Life's long-jump pack. It was in the tutorial, and I was excited for the movement tech. It wasn't until the fucking end of the game I got it.

>>14555309

>Half-Life's long-jump pack. It was in the tutorial, and I was excited for the movement tech. It wasn't until the fucking end of the game I got it.

Man that was a fucking disappointment. Like I was playing and making progress through Lambda Base thinking "where the fuck is this long jump pack?" Then like you said, it's found near the end of the game.

>>14555169

The fact that game manuals only exist in non-AAA Japanese games is proof of how many people actually read them. Hell, even with the "burden" of having to read removed and game mechanics spoonfed to them, tons of people are still too stupid to understand the fundamentals of a game even when it's shoved down their throat.

I usually play the tutorial unless I'm familiar with the game. Usually you can just learn the game by playing or trial and error, but sometimes there's stuff you just aren't gonna figure out on your own anytime soon.

>>14555169

Most games don't even have manuals anymore, just a couple pages of copyright info and shit like that.

>>14555333

Nice.

>The fact that game manuals only exist in non-AAA Japanese games is proof of how many people actually read them.

>implying correlation equals causation

I'm not going to argue many people read them, but that was true for decades. In fact early on this would be true due to purchasing or trading for a used copy that no longer had a manual to accompany it.

The real reason manuals stopped existing though is cost. It is much cheaper to throw in a boring tutorial section than to pay someone else to write a manual, and other people to print it for you.

I see far too many retards nowadays who skip through tutorials thinking they're boring and then complain when the game forces them to use a mechanic they don't know how to use because they didn't read the manual. I don't want to be that kind of idiot, so I read through tutorials to make sure I know absolutely everything. I also read through them if it's been a while since I played a game and want a refresher on finer points.

That being said, I prefer things like tutorial stages that show you how to use a mechanic in a practical scenario.

>>14555394

>I see far too many retards nowadays who skip through tutorials thinking they're boring and then complain when the game forces them to use a mechanic they don't know how to use because they didn't read the manual.

I get that too, but FF8s tutorials were a special kind of hell.

>>14555449

Fun fact: most of them weren't even in the Japanese version

I find that when I skip tutorials I end up missing a key/really cool/useful mechanic that could've made my first playthrough much easier. I typically find out about it after skipping it on my second playthrough of a game