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From the looks of the last thread people will be working on a new server for summerfags.

>>14538330

>spider meme map

Nobody would play that for more than a week at best if that picture is what the map is going to be based off of.

>australia

>no inland waterways

I know that's just a build off of just a heightmap but it needs loads of work to get working and would probably not even look like australia after it's good enough.

>>14538357

>I know that's just a build off of just a heightmap but it needs loads of work

Absolutely, and as far as I know it's being worked on. If that ends up being what we're going with.

>not wanting to settle on a mountainous eye or a thin strip of coastal leg

>>14538360

>no walls allowed

pls. Mobs really do need to be ramped up, tho. There needs to be real threats. On the practice serb before, there were mobs everywhere. Crocs were spawning out from their nest faster than we could kill them. It was hell, but it was fun as fuck. Roaming hoards would be nice. Something else to defend against besides other kingdoms.

>>14538330

>bad meme map and worthless meme map

fuck off idiot newnigger

>tfw everyone burned out but you

>have to wait till summer to play again

We didnt even get a chance to kill the black dragon.

>>14538705

Wanna cry any harder? I'm here for you, bae.

>>14538360

Single landmass works fine, but you need to fill most of the map with it and not have huge swathes of empty ocean like that one.

>>14538330

>digging the spider meme map

We want zero to do with you wolfspider.

Aussie map is looking promising so long as it has actual nice beaches, biomes, things to murder and its not a 2k pinprick map like the last one

AND TREES.

>>14539045

This is the whole thing in its current state.

https://my.mixtape.moe/kvzyaj.png

nice month long server life faggots. When are you actually going to get something long term going?

>>14539205

I've been working on setting up a map, backstory, questline and events for a server for about a week now. I plan on taking a few more months at the very least to get everything together. Maybe next server will be mine but probably the one after next if people are impatient again.

>>14539230

godspeed anon

if you don't manage to fuck it up in some way I'll be nice to you and not call you a nigger behind your back

>>14539205

The serb is still up, friend. If you really want to go over the circumstances of this current rendition, we can do that, but the short story of it is that, as always, it depends on people's ability to not burn out in the first week. We had a high of about 50. If the new one is thrown up come Summer, which was the initial idea anyway, it still comes down to people being able to play the game without shitting all over themselves.

>>14539336

>not double posting just to slightly change your post to make yourself sound less gay

>>14538245

>implying real buyfags think G2A is any less shady than outright piracy

>>14538760

This, if we had a serious attempt at a server tomorrow with advertising going on outside of the thread I would be onboard immediately. If I was in charge of it I would get a dedicated server and the map ironed away here well in advance, then spend two weeks hyping it on forums to get a playerbase going. I would really like to do it around another sale like that humble bundle $1 deal so that we don't get gimped by the pirate client shit. Admins could have player alts like other servers so they don't get too bored too. But I'm just an idea's guy.

>>14540765

Will the /v/posters do some planning and not jump nose first into a new serb, autistically grind one skill for 10 days, burn out, and never log in again?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball /v/….

We need to shill this shit to faggots outside of the chans. I've talking to the redditfags, the autistic rooskie gamers, normalfag wurmfags, etc.

And if its not summer when the new serb starts, I promise you I wont be joining because it will be another half-assed, poorly planned serb destined to die early. If you fags want to play before new serb, try logging into the current one.

>>14540922

I'm talking about the reddit fags***

Just fuck my post up.

>>14540922

I don't know why somebody doesn't take ten seconds to post it on the WU subreddit a couple weeks in advance. That's what I wanted to say but didn't want to get flamed. Seriously if the goal is to prevent cancer just ignore it. We invite worsechan and they instantly bring in Russians and unironic underaged Communists. Might as well get actual players then just ignore the shit that comes with it, it's not like they could report people for toxic language or anything.

>>14540942

>this

If we control the serb nobody is getting banned for triggering some cucks, so theres no problem. At worst it will just bring lulz. Just pave a giant swastika in your town and they won't join your faction, simple as that.

I would understand the concern if it was a normalfag serb and you could get banned for shitposting.

oi i just remembered that i need that diamond staff back for a couple minutes to take some pictures of what stone wall and ice wall do for archiving purposes

any burnt jenn kellon anons still about? we would really like to fight the black dragon, please consider returning to us for a day or two.

any burnt HotSfags lurking around? id like to get the black dragon and trap him in our caves soon

>>14541575

I don't understand why you made such an ugly town

>>14542085

>>14541575

rip hots

>they never dredged up the landbridge

I had no idea that was even the Nile we were crossing. It really is a shame nobody caught on about the map size in time.

>>14542986

They did this really weird cobble thing around their walls. I have no idea what the idea was, if it was a really lopsided road they never fixed or if it was suppose to look like a support structure.

>>14543201

paved outside walls were suppossed to keep myce from spreading for a monopoly on the hate tile

>>14543218

i really hated how forced Chicago was built. there was zero planning when those walls came up, just some sperg putting up wall plans and never commiting. even the spot sucked ass with all that untamed marsh

>>14543218

When was this taken?

>>14545805

dog blessb ur aubtism

What are we doing until June? Keeping the threads up or what?

>>14546711

I think we're wrapping up the serb, getting final shitposts in, and Dakin is making a dank tour video of the village.

In case anyone hasn't seen it yet, Wurm Unlimited 1.6 Beta patch notes.

https://steamcommunity.com/games/366220/announcements

>Changes to base damage reduction rates for armours:

>Leather from 45% to 60%

>Studded from 50% to 62.5%

>Chain from 55% to 62.5%

>Cloth from 35% to 40%

>Drake, Scale and Plate no changes (65%, 70%, 65% respectively)

>Changes to metal type damage reduction bonuses for armours:

>Glimmersteel and Seryll from 10% to 5%

>Steel from 2% to 2.5%

Now if only leveling leathermaking wasn't complete aids.

>>14546723

>Epic Changelog

yeah, helpful

>>14546723

>Resulting items have a chance to be created with multiple runes or random enchants.

Neat

>New: Bulk-to-bulk transfers

>still need to use mods

>A new creature movement featurehas been introduced to improve creature AI

>doesn't explain what it is or does so even more wiki rumor bullshit

>The ability to dig dirt or resources directly into a pile has been added … Once the pile is full, the resources will go into inventory

So we still need to mod again. Wtf is wrong with these people

>You can now clean your furnaces after use and collect the ash

This is actually pretty cool

>Armour can now be dyed and will show when worn.

Also cool

>>14546723

those stats are for epic, though face protection is now something all helmets have, so non-plate armors are more viable

>>14548031

>still need to use mods

it's just slower, i'll take 1 second ticks over waiting for the window to open so i can hit enter each time

it's the best we can get from rolf and the WO dads

>>14546723

fuck yes we wont have to wait a year for the metal and dye changes and all the new shit

>>14546723 (You)

Nerfs affinity farming right after I made a plan on farming a good affinity on a new server. I guess I'm going to be stuck with something gay like catapults again. Probably for the best.

>>14543336

>mountain cucks my house

Lel I'm currently building a tower on my house that will give another view of the billage :^)

>>14556170

I-I'm sorry I defiled your last town, I only did it out of boredom.

>>14556684

the guys there are hermits

>>14556956

its fucking hard to shill this game on 4chan, youre lucky more than 3 people "join" for more than an hour per shill. also gotta keep the thread bumped every 5 minutes or you aint getting shit, but keep bumping your own thread and youre obviously desperate. thread die? whoops cant shill here, time to go to the dedicated generals board where no one looks for new games to play anyways

be happy you have the luxury of a slow board

>>14557017

it must be hard to keep up with 7 ruggarell threads and 30 consolewar threads generating per minute.

You niggers managed to create a small playerbase, keep building upon it. prepare some basic newfag visual guides, something we need to do as well.

>>14557272

Yes, do not join the server. Everyone will just kill you anyway. Don't ask me why someone bothered to make a new thread.

>>14557292

Blame the antisocial retards for keeping the new server a big secret.

>>14557292

you can join, the server's just fading out so there aren't many people, so it's probably just best to wait until the next serb goes up

>>14557017

/vg/ was a mistake. joot should just have created a second /v/ board with the same rules.

>>14556956

A good 4-5 of them are alts for helping building.

>>14557453

>try to advertise the server

>broadcast the message to the 2 people on the WU subreddit

>constantly shill on 4/v/ hoping it doesn't instantly get deleted

>deal with the waves of "SHILL" spam anyway

>lose 90% of people anyway

Maybe the steam community pages would be good but then you can't have a pirate client unless you think up some elaborate excuse.

>>14557025

wew. 4chan playerbase is stagnant and will only spawn splinter hots groups at best. im thinking that if that summer server rolls out, only 3-5 of us will play for a few weeks.

>telling people not to play, denying them the chance to at least get in some practice before the next big run

>>14557272

If you want to see what things at least look like, give it a run. Join JK. We and HOTS are the only real entities left. I have no idea about MR or Freedom. There seems to be about ten people total on the server during the busier times. At least a half dozen are still cruising JK.

>>14556956

Nice image. Not having HOTS accusing people of offline raiding at the bottom, bit of a missed opportunity.

>>14557900

What do you have now? I think the way tiles work in Wurm needs to be explained better to new people, especially with surface mining and tunneling.

>>14557956

>What do you have now?

Nothing significant, btw I'm one of those newfags so I'm mostly learning about the simple things before I get into anything in-depth.

>I think the way tiles work in Wurm needs to be explained better to new people, especially with surface mining and tunneling.

What knowledge specifically about tiles in regards to surface mining and tunneling does need to be explained better that isn't available from wurmpedia/google? I haven't don't much with those particular skills.

The only thing I know iirc about tiles atm is the: "Where you right-click to select the dig command has absolutely no impact whatsoever on where you dig, where your avatars feet are is all that matters" - https://www.wurmpedia.com/index.php/Digging

It was a bit confusing at first when I was getting dirt despite clicking on a clay tile. I didn't know at the time it was finicky about your avatar placement but I blame myself for not having read about it on wurmpedia before asking in-game. I'm guessing surface mining and tunneling have that similar issue as well?

>>14558173

Well basically everything can be learned from Wurmpedia, but if it's a guide then we need the biggest mechanics grouped together for people to refer to.

For terraforming, the corners is what should be explained in more detail because when I first played I was basically at mercy of the level command until I figured out how placing dirt worked. Only digging guide I can see is rambles too much and doesn't have suitable visual aids. I would tell them how to see the height of the corners and what the "X slope down/up" means. Then explain leveling vs flattening and how walls or stone will stop your terraforming projects.

Then I would relay the information from the PVP guide on Wurmpedia along with a guide for getting to 20 FS from a fresh start along with basic information on healing. We know the differences between swing speeds and damage but newbies don't so a little table on the different weapons along with dual wielding notes would be nice as well.

Information on priest restrictions and the gods benefits.

Some etiquette, rules and so on so you're not a cock sucker.

Essential mods.

You could either link the relevant pages or design your own guide and put it on imgur or some shit. I'd help but I'm not good at design, just information.

>>14558236

>dool weelding notes

dool weelding was modded in the ME server so it wont necissarily be consistent between servers

>>14557017

>all the threads we created on 4chan

If my knowledge served me correctly there was not one fucking thread on /vg every time I went to look. As far as I could tell, the HOTS were just a group of discfags and that was it. Maybe you guys actually had a thread set up on /v/, maybe people only use vg with one game in mind, instead of surfing threads like the standard board, but I don't remember a single time I saw Wurm on there

>>14558907

<Please be aware that this is somewhat of a fan project that I'm doing mostly for myself

>helping the enemy by giving them your hidden secrets

NWF

>>14558970

there were a couple on /vg/ and while theyre well intentioned, no one browses that board looking for new games to play. the few threads we had were basically just the already HotS players going there to dump images or larp as a newbie

>>14559026

Fair enough, partway into typing that I started to realize the few times I went to look for games I realized they were essentially their own miniboards with little to no crossover

>>14556956

>implying the storehouse was ever completed

Storehouse never, ever.

>>14559913

That and the training grounds. Thanks Abuu. Thanks Scientestdad. SOON?

let it die

>>14560728

>belaying pin or some shit as your weapon

Killing HOTSheads with a ship Stern when?

>>14561377

IIRC wurm online gives xp for skills on a tick based system thus you want to use the shittiest of items to increase the action timer, or in this case, the duration of a fight. But in wurm unlimited you gain skill based on a completed action so you would want to use the best items you can possibly use, in this case, whatever weapon you can get your hands on that deals the most dps.

>>14561377

>Does not make a good weapon.

I hate it when the wiki throws in shit that is obviously regurgitated from people that have no clue what they are talking about.

Hits harder than the longsword, hits the speed cap with no training necessary in any combat style, and has one of the best potential DPS in the game according to the data. Dual wield them with LT on it and you end every fight with full health. Parry rate sucks but that's what a shield is for. The real penalties is the -2 CR nerf it had to get because it was too powerful (which is the laziest way to nerf it if you ask me) and the cutting damage in servers where everyone swears by plate + medium maul. Two handers still beat it in PVE since the armor on elite mobs just flat out makes 90% of the weapons useless. I use two sickles on Mythmoor and it worked fine until I switched to hammers for dragons, but you do notice that you get hit a little bit more often with the CR nerf.

>>14558907

Little tip I learned on PVE servers, you can train the skill for any weapon/tool in this >>14560728 picture on practice dolls up to level 20. It also gives you some skill in the parent skill, for example you get two handed swords, longswords, and shortswords all to 20 you will gain "swords" skill for all of those levels. However, you can't train parent skills itself so if you maxed all three subskills but you are only at swords level 12 any further training won't increase it to 20.

>>14561421

WU just gives you a flat skill tic for any successfully completed action while apparently WO gives different actions different skill gains. The idea with fighting training is that you get low ql sickles (preferably with LT) which already start with almost the quickest swing speeds and go fight some easy monsters and give it a death by a thousand cuts. This way each successful hit will give you skill in sickles, your fight skill and whatever characteristics you get with it. Not ideal for fighting skill grinding obviously but nice for getting your weapons and styles up without running everywhere.

>>14561439

So FS training kill stuff as quickly as possible but individual weapon skill training you want to hit stuff as often as possible while dealing as little damage as possible?

>>14558970

>obscure game thread surviving the American night on 4/vg/

/wug/ shared the same fate as Cyber Games general, Armored Core general, The Fast general and countless others. That is to make room for quality threads like Katawa Shoujo General #3446, Doki Doki Literature Club! general #599 and various skinner box generals in the shape of mobile games.

>>14561439

Why do all that when you can agro like 10 roosters and then target some horse that's out of range. I got 70 medium maul skill pretty quickly that way.

>>14561472

Perfect

>>14562168

You can do that later but this is intended for the beginning of a fresh start. Also let's you dual wield instead of dedicating a slot for a shield and dealing with defensive mode's speed penalty. Basically it gives you a little extra oomf from your practice doll at the very beginning and gives you a lot of long repair timers so you can get mind logic up extremely quick for piloting more vehicles.

>>14562332

spooky shit

>>14538330

>Australia before the abbos arrived

>>14562495

i need to archive what stone wall and ice wall do still and sickles and hammers have the same glance rate on plate

>>14562654

>what the hell are you talking abo-

Every time.

Dakin-kun have you immortalized the billadge yet in your autistic videos?

>>14564660

Apparently he'll be waiting until the big project is completed.

>>14562332

>sheltering parts from invisible admin rape

>>14564660

I'm in no hurry to make the video, beautify all you want but really don't stress yourself out over it, I mean the server is slowing down don't waste all your life for some pixels that'll disappear in a month anyways.

>>14565868

I think it's just the higher QL the armor, the harder it is for sickle strikes to punch through. Basically it's the same idea as why you don't bring a shortsword to a dragon hunt.

See you all in two months

>>14566865

looks like two or three passes of the erosion tool are needed

>>14566865

Minimap looks like a circuit board. Looks like it was generated with something that stops at 1meter vertical resolution.

I believe I may have fixed the problem

And for those playing the Wgen game it wasn't by eroding, eroding was taking too long so I set the maximum dirt slope to 10 and checked landslide

Tell me what you think

8chins will not lemme upload so here is a link instead: https://my.mixtape.moe/xleegl.png

>>14566777

>>14566865

The map looks like a Japanese woman's vagina.

>>14566777

Are all of those bodies of water independent lakes or do they all hook up for traversability?

>>14567458

>fending off the unwashed hordes from the Olympus Mons

Intriguing idea.

>>14567504

Some of them do some of them don't I intend to hook most of them up and leave a few inland lakes alone

>>14567504

If we do mars we need lots of lava desu. Also scarce trees :^). If you wood autists want, that deep pond can be a dense oasis of wood.

I think the height should be configured so green = shallow water, blue = deep water, yellow = average height, and red = high.

Hey whoever is in the map now wandering around, can you tell me how deep/shallow the water is roughly?

>>14567535

It's about -450 at the deepest

>>14568592

and -140 in the ocean. The deepest spots are the lakes and rivers inland.

>>14568592

>accidentally drop artifact in the ocean

>it sits at a depth of -450 forever because you cant see the bottom well enough to click a single pixel or worse it doesnt even render

>>14568613

Just, like, dump a ton of dirt there.

>>14568657

>go to dump dirt in the hole

>fall in hole

Oh well, a pile of corpses will work too.

>>14568657

leave them in as natural wonders of the world

>>14569330

Sounds fun. The part that blocks ESP is best gril, that shit seriously ruins the game.

>>14570239

it takes all of two 70FS people, a healer and two people with 30FS max to kill a black dragon, step it up.

>>14571108

a black dragon's DR is only 80%, which is the worst out of any unique, including the hatchlings, all other dragons except red have 90%

the red dragon has 98.3% DR

>>14571159

its still trivial for large groups of people to fight dragons. if thats your only gripe its weak.

It would be perfectly fine to play like this considering everything else if you didn't burn out as a group in 5 days and never return for the duration of the server lifetime.

Mapfag here.

https://my.mixtape.moe/pmbhid.png

This is what i've done so far.

Strange fucking pricks and bogs littering the land will have to be fixed by hand in game

Other than that, please critique this map

>>14571294

leave the strange fucking pricks in, that's like 95% of our playerbase

>>14571347

Alright, Pylons and body holes stay then

>>14571294

>he doesn't know how to make his own heightmap

>>14571372

>imblying

I choose not to because I don't want to sink even more time into this.

>>14571294

Too mountainous, the biomes are too small, the snow peak should be connected to the tundra and tips of the mountains, forests are weirdly placed and I don't like how the desert is pushed to the bottom side of the map away from everything. Good going with the shape and good general progress. If you don't want to work on it anymore I would just push the files here and hope someone else takes it up.

>nobody just makes neat maps and posts them on the forums for people to use

Wasted potential.

>>14571394

>Forests are weirdly placed

What did he meme by this?

>>14571384

At least smooth out the one you already have. The erosion tool sucks ass and you should use an image editor to do it.

>>14571561

Whats wrong with a few mountains?

There's plenty of rolling plains don't you think?

>>14571904

Do you guys REALLY want massive fuckhuge biomes of area's you generally only go to a few times.

>>14571952

Desert is for FS autism, laddo. Can't be a tiny patch of sand.

>>14571967

Fucking

>tiny

This is an 8k map, that portion of it is larger than the desert in the previous/current game, it's almost as big as that whole map.

>>14571294

Biomes are way too lopsided. You have a tiny steppe and a (largely useless) tundra up top, an unnavigable tiny steppe slapped on top of a huge blob of mountains in the middle, then four whole steppes and the only desert on the south end. The sides are completely barren of biomes.

If the dark green is supposed to be forest, it's way too irregular. You want the vast majority of the default grassy areas forested minus the odd valley for variety.

Probably the biggest issue is how mountainous it is. That entire east side is a fucking nightmare, and so is the center landmass. That steppe you slapped down will be completely useless for the only purpose it serves (bison), as you'd need to climb up and down several mountains on foot both ways and chase bison which climb at full speed up and down some more. Ignoring how retarded a mountainous steppe is.

>>14571995

Alright, the steppe is a fair point, and the tundra/snow is up there for Event reasons… If you think there should be MORE Tundra and snow then I suppose that's fair, they serve no purpose except to slow you down but they add variety I guess.

>>14572018

Adminfags should also intervene from the beginning to keep things interesting for the hyperspergs with 5 min attention spans. Last serb we genocided everything on the continent and we ran out of stuff to do. Maybe add spawners and shit around the spawns.

>>14572095

>spawners spawning things

also the server is going to need some pretty beefy specs to run all those mobs that are going to be littered all over the map

>>14572018

More snow/tundra for variety is fine, yeah, but it isn't nearly as important as well-distributed, relatively flat steppes. A player could set up a temporary camp at the single desert to grind his FS, but steppes exist so you can grab some bison, and you'll probably have to go get more at least once or twice due to death or those niggers bolting up a mountainside when your wagon gets stuck and you're too slow on the lead while unhitching.

Those mountains really are the biggest deal. I've covered the entirety of two past maps by land travel, and it quickly makes you realize how important it is to have flat coastlines and smooth passes around every mountain.

Keep in mind that vehicles and mounts won't even function past a certain height gradient. It's incredibly annoying when every other hill can't be handled by your mount and you need to feel around the edges your dismount and lead your horse every three minutes just to accomplish mundane travel. You have multiple portions of land about the size of current/last serb's entire map that is essentially a big blob of impassable mountain.

The map's utterly unplayable in its current overly mountainous state.

>>14572139

Lel perhaps make it 4k map. 8k seems like overkill desu.

>>14572095

>>14572304

>>14572312

I really wanna run this map on a test serb so we can see if this is really genuinely as bad as you guys think.

I'ma talk to bruce and try the test serb meme again

>>14572304

if we do that huge wyvern overhaul carts and horses (or just horses I'm not sure) can traverse up to 150 I believe it said.

https://my.mixtape.moe/rzdwhn.png

Here is the same map but blurred and smudged

JUST focus on the topography please.

This will have gentle rolling inclines and declines

>>14572410

Looks like whipped cream now.

>>14572385

>just another (((test serb))) :^)

If you do you'd better not share the IP because we know sure as hell that the autists will pour in and it will become another half-assed official serb that will die in 2 weeks.

>>14572410

Lel now it looks like shit. No smudging pls, you blurred too much also. Just blurr a little bit.

>>14572410

Much more traversible but also much more ugly. Just go back to the original and cut some valleys through all the fuckhuge mountain ranges and make sure every landmass has a flat path through it.

>>14572643

Alright, I muchly prefer this idea, I think I'll do just that

Bruce here, we are going ahead with a test server next week assuming the map is done! It will last until June and serve as a demo for the summer server. We will patch in mods and content as we go to see what works and doesn't.

Rates will be 3x 3x to ensure a logical rolling out of content instead of overloading with end game dragon raids and whatnot. PvP enabled as usual and epic curve will be added in the last week for everyone to experience the end game content we are planning out. Lemme know any other ideas that should be in the test server.

IP and piratefag files will be posted in a new thread once we are ready to deploy. Exact ETA to be determined. See you there!

>>14573335

When next week? Early, mid, late? Don't kill the serb before people have a chance to record their work. It'd be nice to have a collage of towns to reflect back on.

>any other ideas

Just to make sure the idea is present, we need mobs that are an actual threat. It seems like as soon as people throw on some armor and make a few guard towers, mobs fuck off and everything epic or legendary or whatever can get bowled over in a few minutes with only the slightest bit of planning. I'd rather things be insane than things get boring.

>>14571952

>>14571978

>Do you guys really want to have fun?

Yes. Absolutely. If it doesn't take a week to go from one side of that desert to the other, there will be complaints.

https://my.mixtape.moe/wctfny.png

This is the Blur tuned to a factor of 15.

This level of blurring will make most, if not all Inclines traversable by cart.

This means that the subtle intricacies I created in the original, like water only access areas, and hidden cradles to set up in with natural protection from raiders no longer exists.

https://my.mixtape.moe/czojbk.png

This is the map with a blur factor of 10, most mountains will be traversable but there are still some fuck you tier cliff faces along with a few natural cradles around the place.

https://my.mixtape.moe/oujhdr.png

This is the map with a blur factor of 5

This retains most of the original maps configuration while removing the gamebreaking relics.

Mountains are generally rough terrain and must be planned around.

Things to note from the original posting: That map had a significant amount more dirt because of the numbers in dirt generations were turned to dramatic levels, these versions listed in this post do not have such and contain much less dirt overall.

Tell me which generation you believe is better and why AND post a screenshot of how you'd like the biomes to be laid out done in paint, add rivers and where you'd like ravines placed for ease of cart access through mountain zones, You can if you so wish include specific areas you think need further blurring

I'll take in everyone's opinion on this over the next few days and combine them into a map which will generally please no one.

TO Mapfags: I've figured out that Map relics such as rice paddies, pylons, body holes and general squaring of terrain are all caused by the pixelization from scaling the heightmap, No map should be used in Wgen that hasn't been blurred to at least a factor of 2 because erosion is just a peasants blur function that takes substantially longer to complete, pre-drawing in rivers in GIMP with a soft brush tool will also make life easier and prevent cliff beaches which have been plaguing some of the previous serbs. WGen should be saved for dirt, biome and ore generation only.

>>14573335

strive for less disckike fagotry this time, bruce, strive to inform people of things outside of it and don't be muh seegrit club.

once again we ought to try>>14569330

>>14573633

protip you can make huge ass mountains and stuff and keep them around, set the river tool depth to a negative value and you can use it to carve out chasms and mountain passes that will end up looking cool.

>>14573335

>lets wurm out right before summer map

*clap clap clap*

At least make it X10 action timer and X1 skill gain if we're going to "test".

>>14573633

Heres a rough draft of a good map.

>>14573335

This is not the server host as I've just been told.

>>14571108

Yeah and then you get absolute minimal resources from the kill gr8 idea m8.

>>14573685

Actual Bruce here, ignore the imposter. There's no such thing as sekrit glub.

I originally posted some threads ago to attempt to improve relations (damage control) between dicksword and the thread and offered to host instead.

>>14573335

>>14573895

>>14573736

Ignore bruceposters.

>>14571281

yeah, all dragons but red are at the 90% DR point, which is manageable

meanwhile if you hit the troll king with the sword of magranon he'll maybe lose a sliver of health which he'll heal eventually thanks to troll+unique regeneration

You know, I'll never get over how misleading the Wurm box art is.

On the cover, we see corncob pipes, a giant, and a watermill. None of that is in the game.

>>14575431

>corncob pipe

Or mid-rif shirts, or hats that don't turn you bald, tank tops, button-down shirts, dresses, skirts, etc.

>and a watermill

By association, there's also no flowing water and water levels are always at a constant fixed level that cuts through the whole map and keeps you from digging below it. Actual industrialization would make for great end-game material. Imagine a town running on a mill generator that provides electric lighting and some means of automatic processes so you can actually get other things done in town. Imagine snow-covered peaks that create streams that ebb and flow depending on the season, making extra fertile land or possible flooding.

>>14575655

If changing rolfcode wasnt archaeology a team could probably allow map makers to create the illusion of flowing water in the least even with a sea level waterbox design. I want someone to rebuild wurm from the ground up in a proper language (anything not java, this should would probably even be built better in BYOND) too bad life is fuedal looks like trash and is infested with gooks like ARK

>>14575655

>swords

>arrows

>horse pulled carts

>and electric lighting

One of these things are not like the other.

>>14576956

Ancient Greeks played around with steam power and some other civs may have been toying around with batteries. I don't think it's that much of a stretch.

>>14580149

Lel you autists actually finished it? B-bruce?

>>14580233

No lad this was a Bastard Industries venture with assistance from Quig Enterprises.

>>14580149

>man colossus

excellent taste

https://pastebin.com/LBZGExd5

Have some newfag guide I wrote back when we were playing on Brohan.

>>14583547

I'm no mapfag and it's been ages since I hosted but if you're doing wrong what I think you're doing wrong, the heightmap needs to be saved as a 16-bit grayscale png. I wouldn't recommend trying to convert an 8-bit png or you'll end up with a map like >>14566865, which is a bitch to fix.

and I'm not actually sure of the details, but I think that maps smaller than 2048 require messing with the database to make them work properly.

Also, I've been ignoring these threads for a while so I haven't had a chance to just let it die already

>>14584031

>80% used of .24gb

what the fuck

>>14584031

does trying to use less ram work?

>>14584079

Apparently thats the max amount of ram Java is allowed to use or something. Tried changing it to 1gb via command line and it still appears as 0.24gb in map generator.

>>14584096

Can you explain how?

>>14584128

Task manager says it uses only 200-300mb.

>>14584152

NVM it seems like I have to specify the class main class, fuck if I know which of the dozens of classes there is the main class. Never used Java in my life.

>>14571904

great 2k map was way too big this time 99% of it wasn't explored by anyone anyway and pvp took forever due to travel time this time let's do a 0.95k map.

>>14584411

>a bunch of tiny flat islands

pass

>>14584537

dibs on cock island

>>14584619

>barely perceptible legs

>no snow on dick mountain

>>14573740

>>14584619

Mapfag here

Nigga you need to download the latest version of Gimp. MIND THIS IS NOT THE DEFAULT OPTION THEY GIVE YOU

You need the experimental build, the latest one lets you convert ANY IMAGE into 16 bit greyscale.

>Put image into Gimp

>Go into image dropdown on the toolbar at the top. 5th option from the left

>Go down to mode, select greyscale

>Save image as PNG

>Option to save as 15 bit greyscale once you've selected where to save it.

If any of these options don't come up then you have the wrong version.

Let me know if you get stuck, post screenshots of your fuckup if you do.

>>14586142

16bit not 15bit

>>14581750

At some point once it becomes too wordy these guides serve only as reposted Wurmpedia articles. Just keep the basics and OC tips but honestly what tips does foraging need?

>>14586154

24 hour regen timer (separate for foraging and botanizing)

Minimum levels for foraging on tundra etc

Some general idea of when it's better to forage vs botanize

>>14586154

mushrooms and branches are only found on trees and bushes

wemp can't be found on or next to trees

being wounded makes you more likely to find cotton and botanize things that can be used for covers

you find more onions at higher skill

you find less rocks and branches at high skill

rice is very hard to find except near water, same with acorns and oak trees

When the time arrives Newserverfag plz add mods or whatever for stuff like craftable challenge statues, face masks, any weird one off items that can be gotten hold of to add a little variety, every working bell and whistle you can get. Also access to buying/hiring a new Trader and I don't mean (((Personal merchants))) cos if we move from spawn a trader in the new town would reduce a lot of needless back and forthing.

>>14586747

Is woad found more anywhere in particular?

>>14587712

Woad is found everywhere but steppe and tall/wild grass at least 5 tiles away from a tree is the best place to find it. Higher skill also makes it much more likely to find woad.

Some Tips/gripes:

Get Improved Improve and the toolbelt mod for fucks sake.

Imp everything you make to the highest you can.

Bind 'r' to repair and do so upon everything you find with a tick on it.

Make your own everything, unless that shit is crazy, then make it later.

Name your tools/suit.

If what you *do* isn't so in demand find a second/third role and keep up on your main skill up in the background, there's no shortage of jobs/things to do or collect.

Backpacks are better than cauldrons unless you're cooking a grim dinner.

Kiss miner ass, they fuel creation.

Assist those who churn out useful things and (eventually) they'll kick the shit out of whatever problems you face.

Set perms to let a few sane people be able to drag your cart away if it needs moving or if you leave.

Also if you're sat on a ton of useful shit and are going to leave then set perms for townsfolk to be able to reclaim it. Finally getting into a locked house full of rotting steel is like finding real torture porn.

Don't listen to people who say shit like 'creating/imping X is pointless', if it increases your skills it's not pointless, if you grind WS then yes shit a few thousand arrowheads of course but when you can, also make hundreds and hundreds of blades from shittest iron and imp them unfinished, it all adds to the skill, then put handles or shafts on the fuckers and imp them again for more. Similarly with plate, make 50 gauntlets, imp them as high as possible, smelt and repeat until your baseline steel is all 50ql, by then you'll probably never run out.

Don't ask what to do, do what you want to get your engine going, do the same job as someone else (even if they're established) if you want, you can pick up the slack, build surrounding skills and if you outlast them or are on more often suddenly you'll be the big dick in town.

I know these are basic but some people didn't know:

You can select multiple things by Ctrl clicking or dragging a box over them, this can make trading and in particular imping much quicker.

You can select your whole suit and drag it onto the body in your character screen and it will all be equipped at once.

Also if you see a yellow box around a piece of armour in the character screen it can be repaired.

>>14585743

>>14586154

One thing I forgot to mention is that just because I'm personally taking the liberty of spearheading this newfag guides, doesn't mean everyone has to refer to my guides alone. It's not a "my way or the highway" type of situation, it'll be an addition to the collection of all our guides.

I know I've said in cord that:

>I will act as the unofficial 'head/lead of author/writer' or whatever the appropriate title is

and upon reflecting what you've both said, I will admit it was wrong me to proclaim that as it utter non-sense since no one person should be in that position, even if it's imaginary or if no on really cares.

In my haste to accelerate solving this on-going issue, I've forgotten that this collaboration project where anyone can pitch in for a common goal.

If you or anyone else wants to create newfag guides however simple they may be, I won't stand in your way and neither should anyone else, we'll be supportive. This is all for the benefit of our community.

Once I've finished a skill guide or feel that it is mostly completed, I'll post it for feedback on structuring, spelling/grammar, missed/incorrect info, etc for the betterment of my own autistic version of the guides.

After that, anyone can take can take a gander, sift through it all, highlight/copy and paste what is most important and condense it into their own simpler/visual newfag guides to their own liking.

PROTIP: Get the mod that lets you bind any action to a key, then bind Repair to R and Improve to T. With this plus the improved improve mod you can just hover over a thing you want to imp and press R/T with two fingers over and over instead of tedious clicking.

PROTIP 2: More ingredients in a meal is not better. If you're training cooking, always make meals with the minimum two ingredients. You gain experience per meal, so use the smallest possible ingredients, too:

PROTIP 3: You gain XP in animal husbandry when feeding an animal, but you don't gain more from feeding a bigger thing. This means in order to maximize gains, you want to feed the smallest amount of a thing possible. Never feed an animal meat, feed it filets of meat. Never feed an animal a pumpkin, they're huge. Never feed a whole bowl of stew, rather use a reed pen to feed it an infinitesimally tiny amount of stew (which is a liquid and can go in a pen) at a time.

PROTIP 4: Pottery is useless. Any container you can make from ceramics has a lighter and/or bigger version that can be made with tailoring, carpentry, or blacksmithing. The only unique thing is pottery shingles, which can be made fairly easily even at level 1. Don't bother training this.

PROTIP 5: Butchering corpses with a proper Butchering Knife makes it give better products. Don't run around with your starting carving knife ruining all the potential loot.

PROTIP 6: EVERYONE would be well-served to train Carpentry and Masonry. They are pretty much mandatory for doing anything in the game unless you want to be totally dependent on someone else. You won't be able to build shit, make a cart to carry stuff, construct a guard tower, create furniture, pave roads, build a ship, etc. Always train these, you have no excuse.

PROTIP 7: The same goes for Mining and Digging. Even if you aren't a miner or a terraformer, nothing is worse than wanting to build something somewhere, or flatten a road, or make a farm, or whatever, and getting le epic "You are not skilled enough to dig in such steep slopes" meme. Just get a macro that clicks/clicks and walks forward and train these to at least 30 while semi-afk, you'll thank me later. Don't feel bad about using a macro for this, the steep slopes "feature" is just there as a vestige of the Premium Account system in Wurm Online and is terrible game design anyway.

PROTIP 8: Puppeteering is the key to the secret of Wurm. There is hidden content you can only access through Puppeteering. Yoyos, however, are worthless.

PROTIP 9: You can create Groups in the inventory menu to sort items. There's no need to use containers just for sorting. Right click the top of the inventory menu and create a group.

PROTIP 10: Your starting tent can be used as a bandage. Actually, your starting tent should be used as a bandage, because otherwise it's useless. Yes, you can set your spawn point by dropping your tent, but THIS ONLY WORKS IF YOU DROP IT IN YOUR KINGDOM'S TERRITORY. DON'T DROP YOUR FUCKING TENT ON THE GROUND RANDOMLY LIKE A NIGGER REFUGEE. YOU WILL NOT RESPAWN THERE UNLESS IT'S IN KINGDOM INFLUENCE, AND IF IT IS, THAT MEANS YOU'RE NEAR A DEED AND WILL RESPAWN THERE ANYWAY. TENTS DROPPED ON THE GROUND ARE CONSIDERED FREE BANDAGES FOR ANYONE TO TAKE.

https://my.mixtape.moe/sgmxlr.png

Maps done

https://my.mixtape.moe/ocvdmy.png

Here's biomes without elevation.

Gib critique, would you play on it?

>>14589662

i like it. i like mountains for aesthetics so ill keep saying more mountains but i will play on the map the way it is.

>>14589662

Lookin good

>a shoreline that wont break your legs and leave you casting drain stamina on commiegator

>big mountains, but they aren't hell to circle around/navigate otherwise

>its not pint sized

>TREES

I love it already heres what needs to be done

1. sprinkle some moderate patches of plains biome to spawn bison and whatnot

2. add patches of moss, tar, clay around the world, stuff clay around the waterline and underwater a ways as well.

>>14589867

also I forgot, peat too.

>>14589611

For tip 7 I found binding a two keys for paving and cultivating to be the easiest way to afk level digging + paving. Mining is what you said along with making an ore version that does a hundred actions then pops up a message letting you know that your tile is full.

>>14589662

Really nice, it would be fun to play a more land based map instead of boats boats and more boats. Could use more steppe and other resource deposits as anon said.

>>14589662

More snowy peaks would be nice.

>>14589662

>8K X 8K map

>random clay tiles everywhere

Other than that its bretty gud. Are there trees scattered over the grass because it looks like you'd have to travel for 12 hours to find trees in this map.

>>14591044

Clay is so imperative to building that not having it everywhere severely limits building possibilities, the scattering of clay is to ensure that anyone can build practically anywhere, you're not limited to building on the coast or on the river.

There are substantial rolling plains and some of the plains have scattered trees about. Traveling will be a very important thing in this map.

>>14589611

>TIP 1: I'd bind improve to 'E' personally but whatever.

>TIP 4: Large amphoras are useful, look better and take up less space than barrels.

>TIP 8:Yoyos are not worthless Vy priests sacc them for double favour.

>>14591093

there needs to be a large cluster of trees or two in the maps center as well and perhaps very small dots of trees at random in the YUGE OPE N AREAS

and once against don't forget, moss, peat, tar +plains

>>14591397

All three are there in a robust amount, but only in certain parts of the map, if you really genuinely want those resources, you have to travel for them and take as much as you can carry back home with you.

An expedition if you will

>>14591435

>le expedition

Nigger, a majority of the southern and eastern forests require you to either settle there, or a boat, which requires wood.

>>14591483

>I may need to work a little to get what I need.

Maybe this game is a bit too hard for you fam?

>>14591524

Ehh if thats the case I'll invert them next time so the steppes are in the valleys and not on the hilltops, for now they shouldn't be much hassle…. From what I've seen

>>14591497

>hard

I bet you start with starter tools and sword and shield.

Enjoy your dying game. I can't wait to see which new cancerous group you decide to play with next server.

>>14591526

So, do you plan to swim to a forest island, log, then swim back with 1-2 logs?

>>14591553

>Swim back with 1 or 2 logs

>He doesn't just make the boat there.

Also, nigga I am god atm… I'm not allowed to play with any groups because it creates bias… It's really lonely.

>>14591435

This must be the desert tar memer from the other map, your "expedition" consists of carting for 20 minutes with a couple of crates and never ever having to get more tar again.

Not to mention tar can be produced from wood and dirt, so your point is as dead as the current serb.

>>14591567

>foresters go get wood

>oh make a boat too

>why don't we have wood?

Not like I give a shit, I won't be touching another "anon" wurm server. Fink was right.

>>14591623

Bruce pls, y u so mean to me.

>>14591623

Also yes, you're correct, that's pretty much what I memed about the expedition, even if its only once you still have to do it, it's something to do.

As for being the last mapmaker, no, I hung so much shit on him for the 2k choice. And I was super sour that my map didn't get picked… BUT I'm progressing, I'm learning how to map.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dr44lfyy8zl5ccc/Bare%20Duos%20Gigas.zip?dl=0

Can someone open this up in a local server and post some screenshots of the terrain.

Please and thank you

Scatter small patches of trees around the grass you fag. Having to travel to opposite ends of a 8k map for wood is retarded.

>>14594100

And by foot since there are no carts or crates without wood.

>>14594659

No you are wrong, having to take a 90 minute boat trip just to see the other faction is the only way to play.

Also, traversing playerless wastelands for hours on end is not soul crushingly lonely, no not at all.

>>14594659

Problem there is half the people leave because they think shit is 'too small' and artifacts get found too quickly,

>>14595559

What if you made it small but covered in mountains and thorns and shit?

>>14595047

Does it look higher than normal mountains? I can't even tell.

Do the co-ords in Wurm give you a Z value? Is there any way to tell if those mountains are at 12k and not 4k?

>>14595047

Also I'll make a 4k map as well and let people vote on if they'd prefer the chad 8k map or the virgin 4k map

>>14594659

>being this wrong

The size of the map is secondary to the issue. All anyone is asking for is some sensible forest placement.

>>14595744

Summit is 12k, the ascent is also really smooth.

>>14596062

That is fantastic, thanks lad you been a good help, What do you think of the topography as a whole, is it worth making into a map or nah?

>>14596128

I appreciate the time spent making it but I think it's pretty boring. Exploring won't be fun because you can just point a cart in a direction and you will end up at point b without any input. You can't build anything nice on the center brick (besides on the summit) because when you try to flatten the terrain the cliffs will become really sheer and require a gigantic dig skill and hundreds of dirt for each corner. It really looks more like a PVP arena map, those specialty maps with high skill gain and resets every month. Sklotopolis's Novus is an idea of a map I think is good, it's my favorite map.

On the plus side, it's the most accurate depiction of hills I've seen yet.

>>14596182

Thanks for your input lad.

If I ramped up the dirt would that solve the problem? Like 100 dirts to stone or would this still be an issue?

>>14596253

It would still be an issue. I honestly would take another shot at making a map if I was you, especially since you learned how to make it so you can try again. Maybe a 3k-4k map.

Take a look at some livemaps of popular servers, they host them on their website. Mythmoor and Sklotopolis both have three to look at and you can get ideas for what layouts tend to be popular with people. If your map was smaller it would serve as a good PVP arena map at 2k but we are also Minecrafting so it gets more complicated.

Nice work still, cheers

Volcano stalked by gold hoarding dragons plz.

Hey mapfag you faggot, make a 512X512 map packed with trees for extra PvP fun.

>>14597490

Minimum size is 1024

>>14597778

Can you not just invert the colours?

>>14597805

Both blue and red are dark so they both become low elevation. Only thing that becomes high are orange and teal, the in between colors.

>>14597778

>Be me

>be wondering how he made the map circular

>Look closer

>Ohgodno.jpg

>The circle is made by a flat maximum height stone wall

>>14598047

You need to blur it a bit and soften the edges, otherwise it will be a stark drop into the water and an impossible climb up.

Actually, an overall darkening of the map will help because most of the map is going to be close to maximum height.

>>14598099

Yeah Darkening is a must do for that map

Is the "real server" up yet?

>>14598147

The real server?

It's all real

It's real

itsreal

israel

Been awhile since I checked out the thread and the serb, how's FUCKING WOODSTOP holding up? Have you anons fucked up Spurda's premier vacation destination?

>>14598147

Current serb is dead, "real serb" isn't until summer unless the discfags decide to bumrush things yet again.

>>14598173

It was deteriorating so some things were swiped and taken to town. We may have knocked down a wall or two to get a better look.

>>14598173

Fucking woodstops fucked m80, it decayed away

>>14598173

We got your shitty booze and your best still about a week ago cos it was falling to bits.

>>14598147

Serb starts in June (aka the 6th month of the year).

Hey faggots how do you start a local server with a 1k map? Someone said you had to do some fuckery with 1k maps, pls tell me so I can test out moon map.

To all of those who are working on making the next map for the summer(/whenever) server, I hope you're documenting this all as well for our collective guides.

This is something that interests me heavily but I'm currently focusing on the skills guides at the moment. I have pipe-dreams of making a great map one day filled with quests (small/medium/long length, quest-line/series), dungeons/towers, events, treasure hunting and other countless RPG content that would make the server more interesting to play in but that's only after I've mastered the basics of this game.

I'm nearly finished on my in-depth guide for Foraging and will most likely start on Botanizing as it is somewhat similar and easy.

Does anyone have any suggestions for the third guide that I should work on? Preferably an easy resource gathering skill. I was thinking of either doing woodcutting/digging/mining but l haven't made up my mind at this point. Let me know what you think is an easy guide for me to do or if you have a better suggestion.

>>14598422

Needs a lot of other features, also you can get anywhere from anywhere else on foot/cart bar a few crappy islands, no rivers just ponds, sailing would be limited to the south. Swiss cheese world doesn't really appeal.

>>14598431

Mining is pretty straight forward, A short one on woodcutting to help newfags ID the trees they should chop and which to leave to grow (to curtail further DSP loli oakrape incidents) might see some use.

>>14598465

So you're saying we need to draw in rivers? Going by cart doesn't seem difficult, you'd just have to navigate around the lakes/ponds.

Mapfag if you don't wanna get mapcucked by the moon map you can use the heightmap to make your own custom map :^)

>>14598498

I'm saying that going by cart everywhere right off the bat is easymode, there's a reason bridge building exists. Some rivers would be nice yes, also some biomes outside of grass and sand, but I guess that's a later concern.

>>14598492

I don't make short guides, my German bloodline won't allow it. Someone else can do that based off of my guides, however.

>>14598492

I'd teach them the shortcuts that are useful, had a bitch of a time way back not knowing those

>>14598188

>>14598190

>>14598264

RIP woodstop, it was fun building it up though and I learned a lot about the game while building, the next Woodstop will get built quicker and possibly better.

>>14598832

Next town confirmed for Brostop?

>>14598278

Have you tried generating a 1k map then just swapping it into the creative preset yet?

>>14600269

I get "not responding" when I try running the server. Before that, I tried adventure preset and that threw a java exception.

>>14589662

I like this map, 8k is more fun, PVP will be more planned out and not a rush job.

>>14595047

>almost no mountains

trash and burn

>>14598979

>1k size

>most coasts are steep as fuark

trash and burn twice, but i like the concept of planet heightmaps, tho i would recommend trying out other map projection types

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Map_projection

>>14601636

>implying you can't smooth and lower ground level

This isn't the final product baka.

8k map is not doable with the player count these servers get,artifacts are found fast due to macroing and the use of alts,size has nothing to do with it.4k has been tried and true in the past,smooth hills while great in theory do more harm than good in practice and renders climbing completely irrelevant,the map is a nightmare,look to maps that've been used in the past or in different servers for inspiration.

Also,to the mapfag and guide autist,lurk more.

>>14600457

If you upload the files I'll try it, otherwise make sure you have the Wurm dedicated server downloaded and the latest Java.

1.6 is out now

>>14602420

Heres a suggestion for the autists who want 4k maps… What if we make the moon map just one island, and the other mapfags can do the rest of the map? That way noone gets mapcucked next serb. The moon would take up 1/16th of a 4k map.

>>14602420

Crashes for me too, I like the idea of different continents on a 4k map. 8k can go fuck itself, go play a PVE server if you never want to see other factions ever.

>>14598979

>>14602420

Better but still too many pools, they're f'kin everywhere. Also is the east of the landmass looks like it goes right to the edge of the world, can a boat get by that side?

It looks lumptacular, some flatter places and some nice peaks are needed.

>>14602774

>>14602792

>>14602812

*clap clap clap*

Well done devs.

>>14602774

Oh my aching nuts.

I havent played this game since we left Ivan's vodka fueled server.

1.6 seems really fancy and I want to waste my time stroking horse cocks again. Is a July server the plan, still? 1.6 Is giving me the itch again…

>>14602812

>silver 2h sword

the names Geralt

Geralt of Rivia

Im a Witcher

These patch notes are fucking dense.

Is the server down?

>>14594659

>>14594849

>faggots coming out of the woodwork to insert unrelated small map shilling when one of the main complaints that lead to server being kill is that the map is too small

how can you bear your own faggotry

>>14602774

holy fuck

yeah I ain't playing til this is in

>>14605246

Why do you have to be such a disingenuous nigger?

A 2k map is too small while an 8k one is too large,a 4k map is big enough to accommodate hermits,splinter communities,primary towns,construction projects and still leave enough room for the admin to terraform/build.

The idea of transversing a desert or a forest for an hour while appealing just isn't fun ingame,you're either driving and dodging mobs or you slap emote and shitpost in chat,for a fucking hour,and this is your average trip to anything worth getting to in an 8k map.

With the fag count being 30 at serb's peak on average a 4k map is big enough.

And i was talking about this mapfag >>14589662

It's just too much to point,like another anon sugested i'd just try again.

Moon map seems ok to me,don't really know if i'd feel the same ingame but with further improving done i don't see why it couldn't work.

t. >>14601955