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How the fuck do you fight a kirin that kills you in one hit? I'm chugging potions like they're soft drinks. I just want to become bigger high rank.

>>14538012

Thunder resist can help you not getting one shotted, other than that, just read his attack and dont get hit.

>>14538038

Cause they're your pals.

>>14538012

Kirin is easy as fuck to dodge if you look at its attack pattern for 5 minutes, Still annoying as fuck to fight though.

>>14538063

But seriously that's where the name comes from. Pal and calico.

>>14538038

Why does that cat have curves that make my dick hard

>>14538038

To differentiate them from all the Felynes that aren't working for you, I guess.

Anyone have the squad ID?

For some reason im not in any squads anymore.

Or you guys could join me, im gonna hunt some tempered deviljhos.

>>14537962

sounds like shilling to me

>>14538265

Squad ID is 4RPDxcCcL4Gd

>>14538557

Join us 4RPDxcCcL4Gd

We need help, it wont die with the two of us going at it.

>>14538613

I'll be right there in… Four hours

>>14537973

Don't get hit.

>>14538038

Change in translators. Also why some of the items got name changes in the translations as well, the names have been entirely consistent in the JP as far as I know.

>>14539284

A cat isn't also fine too in this case. Romance between these sizes and shapes is like romance between dwarves and elves, it should not to be found outside the deepest poz holes of Hollywood.

Platonic symbiosis servitor cats, not lusty felynid maids. They are pure and fluffy, don't you dare touch the pet-fu.

>>14537962

inb4 pickle rick

>>14539511

I TURNED MYSELF INTO A FAGGOT MORTY

>>14539511

This isn't what i wanted you horrible person you.

>>14537973

Bring a hammer, don't get hit like a faggot, and he dies in 10 minutes or less

His head hitbox is gigantic. Get in an uppercut whenever you can then bounce, only go for big bang after a mount knockdown or K.O

He's easier solo, his health pool is pretty small

>>14539698

I want to fuck moofa

>>14539698

I'd squeeze those toe beans.

I love how the jho lance spins like a meat grinder when charging and countering. Do any of the other jho weapons have any special animations?

>>14539989

Dunno, but the bass on the horn's roar is so low my tv can't properly sound it off. Might set up my surround sound just for this.

>>14539989

They all do as far as I'm aware. Greatsword and Hammer engorge when you charge them

Heard the switch axe or charge blade saw spins or some shit but haven't tried it personally

>>14539407

>he doesn't like funsized girls

>mhw turf war between jho and bazelgoose

>jho tyring to grab bazel neck and got a face full of explosion and let it go

at least some monster put up a good fight against jho, even diablos isn't a match for jho and got trash easily despite the huge fucking horn

>>14540062

wifi keeps dying

>>14540386

>some monsters put up a good fight

You sure it wasn't just Bagelgoose? It's World's apex predator so it'd make sense for him to tie against other apex. I know I saw Odoragon got fucked up by Jho and it's the equivalence of honey badger in this game.

>>14540497

I might just be bazelgoose, everybody else just got trashed despite the size.

>>14540386

I've seen jho stomp booglegause out of the air, ended with the bagel on the ground, exploded everything as jho went in then flew away

>>14540779

there are probably multiple outcomes to these encounters.

Weekly events are cancer

>>14540869

Gunlance's surprisingly good against it because of long reach + upwards slashes.

It might take a few tries to get the timing right tho.

>>14540902

Well…I went with raw damage against it, realistically you only need to connect with the upward slash since the combo that follows is entirely armor piercing.

I don't like shelling since it takes too much time and leaves you open.

>>14540902

Hammer worked because Kirin was so small in FU that you could charge a level 3 and always without fail get KO damage on the head, even if you were landing it in the center or near the rear, and not have to worry about precision, which is hard to do when it's so agile and the head hitbox is so small. After it's KO'd you can do some normal attacks to the head. Not needing precision really helped deal with the Kirin's small size and erratic movement thanks to its Kelbi prancing, which is why I always take it when fighting it, only monster I'll switch weapon specifically for if I've been playing anything else other than hammer.

>>14540911

Or just walk up to it with your GS sheathed and press triangle?

I don't remember exactly for FU, but do keep in mind that the hammer charge mv is only like 20+70 and requires something like 5-20 second to charge, aim and execute whereas gs gets 50 mv out of 3~5 seconds of unsheath-sheathe. Plus if you miss you hit a body hitzone and do no damage even if it adds a tiny bit to ko threshold.

Not that I'm saying that hammer is a bad choice, but it's really no better than dbs or gunlance if all you care about is not having to aim, so at worst kirin would've made you give up on SnS, LS and maybe Lance (giving up on HH in gen 2 is an entirely different story) not forced you into becoming a oneweaponfag

>>14540918

To be fair I was just exaggerating, I already used hammer before I fought Kirin. I just fall back to it everytime when fighting the Kirin because I get tired of having my weapon bounce all the time. Also your math looks wrong, Hammer charges pretty fast and I got the charge down that I can minimize downtime by unloading it just as it reaches level 3, Kirin never took me long to kill either. It just sucks because of how small it is and how off the movement for it is with the prancing.

>>14540939

>how off the movement for it is with the prancing.

>not practicing fucking kelbi up mid-bounce every time you encounter one in a gathering quest

There's a reason 'gather 5 kelbi horns' is a mandatory 1 star village quest in nearly every game.

If anything I was confused because, although I'd still deal with a kirin eventually using hammer, it was always longer and more tedious than just using gs, or playing really hard with lance. As for the time, if you're already uncertain about the prance that means you're probably not setting off a charge immediately upon reaching level 3, which also means you're probably leaving a fair amount of buffer distance between the monster and yoruself when you start charging, hence most of the time is lost in moving the level 3 charge to the kirin and going through the relatively long animation (mostly for the upswing part).

>>14540946

The thing about beak moves is that even though there's no wind up, it always attacks in the same direction (Right smash into left smash) so you always have enough time to dodge as long as you're slightly to its left (your right if moving towards its head), however the charge move can come out of nowhere, hits you if you're anywhere near the front of it, and can end so quickly sometimes you're not even sure what just hit you. Also there is something like half a second where he hops into an angled position with his beak raised before doing the smash, extremely miniscule but it does exist.

Embed is much later in the series, but this is what's really inexcusable for garuga.

>>14540863

Shogun Ceanataur

It has gotten even worse in recent games than it was in Freedom Unite.

>no clear hit zones with its erratic movement

>regains his shell the first time you break it which also gives it new attacks

>if you break its claws it goes into permanent rage in FU

>in modern games if its raging it can cause bleeding

>never stands still, making reliable charge attacks a bother

>just hard enough to be annoying but never enough to be challenging

Beat Tigrex and Diabolos first try in P3rd, then tried the lava snake and I was not ready for that rage mode laser, ded

>>14541144

Don't let it get you down, that guy surprised me as well. You'll get him on your second try, bring a water based weapon and stay close to him. 80% of the time it's the better solution than keeping your distance.

Anyone up for some multiplayer XX on citra?

>>14541144

You can leap through the laser.

>>14542981

Good luck timing it correctly, your armor can barely sustain one blast, so there aren't chances to train for it during a fight.

>>14543040

Its a leap, you are invincible until you hit the ground.

>>14543069

oh right, I misread that, my bad

>>14543069

>>14542981

Well good to know so late in the game, so it's just a free i-frame dump with the risk of getting hit before you get up again huh.

>>14543203

Yup, the slow getting up part was what got me killed the most during my initial Zinogre fights.

>Tempered Jho event is over

there goes the only fun hunt

>>14544973

So wait MHW has timed events? Fuck I'm glad I didn't fall into peer pressure now.

>>14545456

All of the timed events are coming back at once in april, but only for a limited time because thats an extra special timed event too.

>>14545493

Give it a few years and we'll get all the events permanently.

They have no reason to rob us of that.

>>14545515

>They have no reason to rob us of that.

Sure they do - to get you to buy World 2

>there are people who enjoyed MH world as their first Monster Hunter game

>>14546007

Get used to it, you've become a minority in your own hobby overnight. Welcome to vidya.

>tfw no one to play MH XX online with

>>14546622

https://mega.nz/#!keYmxTJQ!7-DCnem_8XIB7eubRD2oUH__GRHqXml0ccgX-Q1vpFg

Link from the last threads

>>14546007

It's pretty much the only way I can see enjoying it at all. As a wholly standalone action game it's competent enough, and even "worst mainline Monster Hunter" is still better than most of what's on the market these days.

>>14546594

>>14546622

XX was the worst prior to World, but you can minimize the damage by playing only in Guild Style and not using Hunting Skills. Some of the monsters are worth it, IMO.

>>14546652

No need to get confrontational. Hunting Skills and Styles are the big addition to X and XX that made them stand out. Skills are activated abilities that build up as you hit the monster, and do various effects from buffing to creating a healing zone, or simply do powerful special attacks. Styles change the base gameplay of each weapon to suit an entirely different approach to the game. As a general barebones rundown:

Guild - As close as you can get to "normal" Monster Hunter (though some individual weapons have new/changed mechanics in X as a whole, like the Gunlance's heat meter.) Can equip 2 Skills.

Striker - Overall simplified movesets in exchange for being able to equip 3 Skills that charge faster than normal.

Aerial - The dodge roll becomes an extended leap that if used to contact the monster or an ally (cats or other players) launches the player into the air. Can equip 1 Skill.

Bushido - Dodging or blocking through an attack is enhanced and allows for special counter attacks based on the weapon type. Can equip 1 Skill.

Brave - Holding the sheath button enters you into a stance where you either dodge through an attack with a very fast recovery or can enter into a stronger attack than normal. Builds up a Brave meter that enters you into a powered up state. Can equip 1 Skill.

Renkin - Attacking builds up a Renkin meter that can be used to craft items. Can equip 3 Skills.

>>14545508

Basically, yes, he's more powerful and his HP pool is much deeper.

>>14545177

Shame world made it 99% pointless to prep outside of this quest, otherwise there might have been some things in this game that actually required effort to beat.

>>14545208

Frontier is a little silly sometimes

>>14546690

>Aerial sounds fun, but I'm assuming you can mount monsters with it, in which case into the trash it goes

Its the only use it has.

You can't even charge on ground if you are using Aerial with greatsword.

>>14546726

But aerial hammer is actually 'fun'? and aerial GL let's you do air-shelling to reposition and perform air-dodges?

Just because plebs like to spam aerial GS and SA (which are actually have nerfed MV even though it looks like you're doing a level 3 charge) doesn't mean that every single aerial style is just spam.

Still retarded, but again, if you're playing X/XX you've signed up for stupid bullshit and you might as well enjoy what you can. If you want a good game just go play mh1/dos/fu/tri/3u. (p3rd is also okay but monsters are way too slow.)

>>14546726

I was gonna say that's fucking retarded but I guess you already know that.

Anyway I just realized that the mega link posted earlier is for a .3ds file. Is the easiest method of converting it to a .cia file still the Simple CIA converter?

>>14546750

Probably also worth noting that aer hamm with a par hammer is amusing for being able to completely shut down monsters with mount-ko-par-exhaust chains for the first 10 minutes of any quest.

Of course this doesn't matter since if you're playing in a group no one is going to need the monster to stop moving with how overpowered everything else is, but again, refer to point A: you signed up for bullshit by downloading XX

>>14546758

that 3ds is for citra, I don't think you can just convert it to be usable on a real 3DS.

>>14546690

It's a cool idea, and it does seem to have reduced mount values since you're not mounting nearly as often as you'd think you'd be, but it does trivialize a lot of monsters whose movesets have no way of dealing with an airborne opponent.

>>14546777

meant for

>>14546762

>>14546777

you could just use the 3ds emulator if you don't want to play it on real hardware.

>>14546720

I watched this and saw the White fatty quest line video and holy shit i never knew Super HULK flaming Rajang existed.

What the fuck Frontier Z.

>>14546974

Isn't Frontier their MMO spinoff series?

>>14547848

Yep.

Also dont forget about MH: Online the chinese spinoff series.

Tempered jho is fucking bullshit

>144 def

>he goes in rage

>shoulder dash, bite, dragon breath and tailswipe deal 80% your hp

>picks up the jagras

>many of his moves now deal 125% hp (tested with vitality mantle, you lose it one hit and get damage on top)

What the fuck?

>>14548073

what's the point of the damage when they added so much shit to reposition or guard yourself without a need to charge it like in xx that you never get hit.

after the fourth hunt, it couldn't even touch me when i used a ls. i switch to gunner weaps to farm it solo, but now it's just a joke

>>14548131

jho has always been a punching bag. the only ones hyping it up are redditards that can't even play a proper mh game so they praise world to heavens about how good they are at it.

>>14548187

I use gunlance cause i'm a masochist

>>14548194

i forgot when i stopped trying gl since i just thought of it as a gag weapon. the constant nerfs despite being shit adds hilarity too. no idea how it functions in world since i never bothered.

>>14548251

they gave it new combos which split it from lance

also buffed the bullets and gave it more options with the spear

the sideways dodge has been made better and now you have comboes with super armor and mind's eye

What the fuck do I have to do in P3rd to unlock HR2? Complete ALL quests before that?

>>14548919

Complete key quests. Look up what the key quests are.

>>14548919

I had to do like 60% of the 1* guild quests. With the gear you should've acquired by now the ought to be breeze, just takes some time.

>>14548948

>>14548932

Yeah I've just been doing them in order, been fun to almost one-shot Bulldromes and Arzuros, but it started to feel like forever since I've already done the same quests in village mode. Looked up this key quest shit and how the flying fuck are you supposed to know? Compare that there's a Royal Ludroth Hunt in the rank quests, and also in the * rank quests, but only one is a key quest? What is this shit.

But assuming, is it that even after beating all main quests in the village, all the older monsters from other games and so on are locked in the Guild Hall quests in higher ranks?

>>14548073

>144 def

>shoulder dash, bite, dragon breath and tailswipe deal 80% your hp

Well no shit they're going to do that much damage when you have Low Rank level defense you moron. Even then, depending on your weapon, it shouldn't be hard to dodge/block most of his attacks. Git gud.

>>14548919

Keep in mind that the 1 and 2 star quests in the Hall are unnecessary. All the keys will be 3 stars. The girls explain that when you first come in IIRC, though obviously if you can't read Japanese that wouldn't help you. In general though, for Gathering Halls key quests will always be large monsters at the highest star level you have access to, so just hunt the things you haven't hunted yet.

>>14549028

>Compare that there's a Royal Ludroth Hunt in the (2 star) rank quests, and also in the (3 star) rank quests, but only one is a key quest?

1 and 2 star are Village tier, 3 star is Hall tier. Again, that's explained by the receptionist when you first talk to her.

>all the older monsters from other games and so on are locked in the Guild Hall quests in higher ranks?

All the ones present in the game, anyway. P3 doesn't have a full list of every 1st/2nd gen monster, though it does have quite a few returnees Tri didn't, as well as new subspecies for things like Tiggy.

>>14549028

1 and 2 star guild quests are retard filter quests to make sure that anyone rushing into the guild hall before playing offline gets ez-mode experience, they're village-level difficult levelled and their drops are much worse. 3* star is the base level guild quests, happened in gen 1 and 2 gens as well. Immediate access to monsters like gigginox should've tipped you off.

Aside from 1 or 2 monsters the only thing you'll find is some recolors and the monsters actually being slightly threatening in high rank p3rd.

You can check the full list here if you don't know if you actually want to play through guild hall quests:

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHP3rd:_Guild_Quests

There are probably better sources but the wiki was the first result on startpage and it's not too bad.

>character edit voucher doesn't let you change your character name

wasted potential tbh, they could have made tons of money from people wanting to make dumb cosplays

>>14549263

Shit dude if you want to go that far just make a new character on a different slot.

>>14548251

The shell explosions it has does flat damage, which can be increased by half, and the more shells you have the better the burst fire does.

You can also just wack enemies over and over for fuckhuge damage. The only good lance is Royal Burst for shelling and the diablos one for wacking. The punch knife round thing is good for applying status effects. It also has a really good block.

>>14549314

but then i'd have to farm everything again

>>14549342

The fact that you'd rather pay money to do something like that than play a video game a second time says a lot about the game.

>>14549342

Then you'll have twice the amount of fun with the game anon. :^)

>>14549357

Everybody got a free first voucher, you cant even buy them yet.

>>14549394

>Everybody got a free first voucher, you cant even buy them yet.

He was explicitly talking about capcom making money on its shitty microtransactions.

>>14549028

>Looked up this key quest shit and how the flying fuck are you supposed to know

Its usually obvious stuff like hunt the big monsters or the NPCs give you hints on it.

So heres a resuscitating bump

I went back to play Portable 3rd after fucking around a bit with XX and picked a hammer this time instead of a Greatsword and holy shit is this this amazing.

>extremely simple moveset

>huge damage with staggers up the ass

>killed a great wroggi in 2 minutes

>hyper armor and ESP on bread and butter moves

And this thing is supposed to be nerfed from what it used to be in MHFU. Any hammer main wanna detail all the differences it went through from MH1 to World? Greatswords only got better as the series went on.

>>14546720

Frontier is a complete fucking joke of a game.

Made it to Jhen Mohran, a bit disaapointed even if I didn't beat it yet. More like a gimmick fight like Shadow of the Colossus.

>>14554008

Thanks for the advice. Overall at this point I'm maybe a bit disappointed in the difficulty of the game, Zinogre was a wall but only for the first time as it was just 10x faster and stronger than anything before it, but after that it's been pretty easy, some fights like Tigrex and Gigginox were annoying because they raged every two swings and it was a time waste to wait them out. I really, really enjoyed the first 10 hours of the game, going on gathering quests in a comfy levels without any bosses roaming around to speed you up/carveable. Those were some of my favorite vidya moments, doing the first few 50 minute paw pass quests and finding out all the places and items you can possibly gather, I loved it.

I started noticing around the Zinogre quest that I didn't even try and gather anything any more, I just went in to find the beast and fuck it up, everything else was secondary. I guess that took a bit of wind from my sails concerning MonHun, but still P3rd seems to be one of the best games I've ever played, and to think for the full content of the Guild Hall there's still over a 100 quests to be had if you want the content. Bravo, and thanks to all you anons making this thread for the 3rd HD download, you've made the last 1½ months of my life a hoot.

Also, I still haven't gotten the droppable meats for monsters to work. I tried it out a few times by going into areas in advance and dropping meat, and when the monster retreated there, the meats were gone, so maybe there's a time limit. And they never picked up anything I dropped while their backs were turned.

>>14554093

you won't have that problem in the arena fight now

good luck don't bother bringing potions

>>14554057

Don't forget that the Gathering Hall will have monsters that the village quests won't. Especially once you hit the high rank quests, which is generally when subspecies start showing up. Also, just about every MH has a superboss elderdragon at the end of the gathering hall quests, so don't think you've seen the biggest and baddest monsters, already.

>>14554156

Yeah, I'll be glad to look forward to that as well. Maybe I sound off, I'm trying to say that MonHun is a "normal" challenging and enjoyable game and not "difficult" of grinding teeth and hair as I imagined for some reason. A true mix of comfy and oh shi–

>>14554183

Oh, don't worry. Games with G Rank will get hair-pulling difficult for some quests.

>>14555246

What sort of faggot takes RNG cannon online fucking hell.

>>14554221

Not true, G-rank is a fucking meme because G-rank gear makes it essentially the exact fucking same as non G-rank.

>>14555257

The same kind that wakes your monster with a long sword slap and doesn't bring flash bombs to any fight, despite the fact you're literally shitting them a few hours in. So far way more idiots than in the past but again, who'da fucking guessed

>>14554093

they need to be tired to eat meats

>>14557048

that's not guaranteed though

people have said the monster needs to "not see you", but I don't understand how that's supposed to work if you're playing without cats. I've had a G.Jaggi lick my meat while I was right in front of it.

I could have sworn I recorded that bit, but I can't find it now.

>>14557125

>I've had a G.Jaggi lick my meat

Did you buy it dinner first?

>>14557211

That WAS the dinner.

>>14557125

>people have said the monster needs to "not see you",

Thats not true.

the only reason you would not want to be seen is so that you don't interrupt his eating animations but monsters will eat tinged meat even while you are right in front of them.

>>14554057

>some fights like Tigrex and Gigginox were annoying because they raged every two swings and it was a time waste to wait them out.

That's when you need to learn how to engage a monster that's enraged. Carefully but precisely so you don't get fucked but still dealing damage overall. Waiting rage timers out sounds like a really boring way to play to me.

>>14557806

Gems are 13% chance from gold reward slot on investigations on World I hope you did those, cause if you did and still didn't get that is pretty rough.

>>14557824

I literally ran through two gold investigations

>>14557806

>>14557824

>>14557861

Even in World, the desire sensor wreaks it's magic.

>>14557369

Yeah it is, but it was only those two I waited because they were so damn fast and both kept doing those throw moves constantly (poison or rocks). Maybe after I beat the village quests I'll start trying out different, faster weapons to see if that makes it more fun.

>>14558527

What weapons were you using? Fast weapons aren't going to help if you aren't carving opportunities to attack in the first place.

When Giginox is raging his weakpoint switches from its head to its tail.

>>14557869

I have an investigation for teosta, also a tempered teostra too.

I have nothing to do today so i'll help you out if you want.

I personally had to hunt about 17 teostras to get its gem, and when I hunted another one I got another gem even though I didnt want one that time. >>14558010 is of course right about that damn desire sensor.

>>14558557

I've been using greatsword from the beginning, now facing Jhen Mohran in the village and beginning HR3 quests in the hall, with a Golem Sword+.

>>14555246

>irl friend does the same thing

Best part is I'm a hammer user and he runs up to wyvern fire in the face because "it kills them faster". I hate my friends sometimes

>>14558602

Using a great sword against tigrex is pretty simple. Just do preemptive charges by its back legs and it will literally turn its head into your attack range. Tigrex is just a slower Nargacuga. As for the Gigginox, you can safely land a full charged hit on its head/tail while its either laying a normal egg or expunging poison from its belly.

>>14558010

It absolutely does. Me and some guys ran daora investigation with gold slots. I think I needed 3 horns. I got all but the last one I needed in the first hunt. Six hunts later I called it saying that this hunt I would get 1 horn in the reward box and 2 horns in the reward slots. That is exactly what happened.

Fuck the desire sensor

>>14558602

oh and you probably know this but you can block roars with your greatsword.

>>14558668

Block as in get a normal block reaction and then you can just move while it keeps roaring? I did not, all I've seen is some headplug items but never really used them since I try to stay at a medium distance from where to run in. Probably the only tougher monster I stayed skin-deep with was Diabolos since you can practically live between it's legs and keep swinging until it dives.

>>14558677

>Block as in get a normal block reaction and then you can just move while it keeps roaring

yep

Its useful for Tigrex because its roars can hurt you up close.

You can also "ledge" both Tigrex and Diablos.

>>14558010

I have all the Nergigante Armor except one, did Gold investigations, wrecked the fuck out of him and broke all his shit and his horns twice

I JUST WANT A FUCKING HELMET

>>14557125

smoke bomb.

>>14557869

You can craft it at the melder if you have a gold commission ticket from the weekly bounties

>Lance flash pod counter glitch is shit and needs fixing.

>Arc shot bow spammers are cancer.

>True charge GS users wiffing it while a 100% critdraw lvl3 crit boost GS user gets off two crit Lvl3 charges.

Wheres my rapid pierce LBG capcom? Guns in this game are a pale shadow of what they were in Gen and 4U.

Also the max potion glitch for Gold crowns is working

>>14560445

>max potion glitch for Gold crowns

Explain

>>14560628

DEEPEST CODE LORE

>>14560740

Heres a quick guide for elder crown size measuring as well.

>>14555267

That's not true. Looking at datamined quest info in MHXX, G-Rank gets more than 2 times the attack power. Meanwhile, your armor only upgrades from 600 defense to around 800 defense, meaning that every fight in G-Rank with G-Rank gear will deal more damage than High-Rank monsters did in High-Rank gear.

>>14540946

Garuga has fluid motions, it just moves so fast that the human eye can't see what the fuck it's doing.

>>14565467

Aim to get triple pounds. Charges are extra damage, not main damage, focusing on them too much will make you lose out overall. In mhfu, level 2 charge -> triangle follow up -> level 2 charge is an infinite combo you can do which has pretty decent motion value, low recovery time and low commitment. Bear in mind that the triple pound's second hit is very weak, but the golfswing is really strong (It goes something like 50, 20, 90), so if you don't think you'll get the golfswing in, consider abandoning the combo after the first hit. You can also use circle triangle triangle to get into the golfswing faster, but the side check (circle) is a much weaker hit than the first pound. For reference, the level 3 charge has a motion of about 20+70, pretty good, but considering that if you're landing the upswing part (20) you're probably releasing too late and the monster is going to punish you for it, which leaves you with just the 70 from the downswing, and there are much easier ways to get 70 motion value out, but the downswing has great range and is excellent for getting extra hits in, especially on the head.

Heads often have good hitzones, but more hits and less risk (i.e. less time spent looking for openings to heal) is usually more important for standard play. One superpound on the head after walking around in circles lining it up is a lot worse than three full golfswing combos on the legs or stomach. I think the best time to put in the second input for the pound is roughly when the first hit connects with the ground, but mashing triangle until you do the golfswing should work fine enough. I know that some attacks come out faster if you time the inputs better in gen 1/2, but I only ever really noticed it for lance.

>>14565577

>roughly when the first hit connects with the ground,

Or maybe it was halfway raised from the ground after the impact? Sorry, it's kind of muscle memory at this point so I can't remember exactly what part of the animation was right.

>>14565577

>>14565599

Thanks for the advice. I didn't know the term motion value, but I did know the concept already. I'll go into training and work on the combo timing. I remember the lance triple stab in P3rd having slightly finicky timing, but that one is muscle memory for me now as well. I did spend a lot of time running around charging, which probably hurt my dps by a lot. I'll work on utilizing triple pounds and sticking closer to the monster.

>>14565467

>How important is it to aim for the head

Its very useful to aim for the head. You should generally focus on dodging attacks and getting in openings. Don't be afraid to dodge roll even when you have a full super pound charge. Don't go for the triple triangle unless you think you can hit the golfswing.

The general gameplan is to chip away at the monster and get some good hits to the head then capitalize on stuns, flinches and falls by unloading your golfswings.

The spin attack is largely useless and the circle attack is very weak but has a somewhat respectable stun build up.

>>14565841

Does stun wear off over time? I noticed on the very early monsters like Giadromes and Bulldromes that I would get stuns on them without even really trying, but on the later monsters I rarely if ever stun them. I'm assuming it's because I'm not getting enough head pounds in a short enough time.

>>14565866

you're probably not hitting the head enough in case of other monsters. Giadromes and Bulldromes have this easy hitbox where almost half their body is their head.

>>14565841

>Chip away at the monster and exploit openings

Maybe when you're just starting, but when you're playing well the gameplan is 'be three steps ahead of the monster so you're hitting it non-stop'. Easier when you have the uppercut from later gens that lets you cover big distance and hit for good ko, but in gen 2 it's still just focus on pound, and remember that pound 1 does as much as a GS draw attack and you can cancel out of pound 2 into a charge.

The spin attack is your best element and status dealer, extremely useful if used properly (i.e. with a para hammer or against some of the weirder element hitzones), but hammer shines with raw and para is pretty awful solo anyway, which makes it a questionable move. The circle check can combo into a charge and comes out quick, a side check is still better than 0 damage if you only have a small opening.

Also the head is only as useful as its hitzone. Targetting an ian head exclusively isn't a bad idea at all, targetting a blos head exclusively means 30+ minute quest times even if you're playing well.

>>14565866

>>14565885

Yes, KO is a status like any other and has a threshold and recovery rate, but dromes do have HUGE ko receptive hitboxes while other monsters stretch a little bit into the neck at absolute most. Frankly getting KOs while playing solo is barely worth it unless it's a monster you really don't know how to fight, or if it has a really dramatic weakpoint that KO state lets you exploit. Since exhaust doesn't exist in gen 2 you can't time a KO during the tail end of an exhaust and line a trap up to get the most of the exhaust period either

Threadly reminder that MHW was what the franchise desperately needed and that it singlehandedly saved MH from fading into obscurity.

>>14567214

>franchise that sold millions of copies of even the most basic rereleases

>fading into obscurity

If anything its a mark of the end like the transition from Dead Rising 1 to 2. Sure 2 was a perfectly fine game but it lost a lot of what made Dead Rising 1 good and gave rise to 3 and 4.

>>14567269

Or RE4, which was a fantastically designed game which, unlike World, they designed the enemies around the new player options instead of just giving the player more power while keeping the monsters relatively the same, which resulted in a different yet still extremely well designed, polished and tight game that lead to a lazy copy that didn't understand what made RE4 really work (RE5) and a game that just said fuck it and went with generic shooter action (RE6), to a piss poor attempt at "going back to the roots" (RE7).

>>14567214

>Fading into obscurity

>When the series has been as strong as ever in Japan, and only getting more popular in the West

Putting aside any questions of quality, how do you even begin to think Monster Hunter was in the remotest danger of fading into obscurity?

>>14567748

MHX/XX was the first in the series to not sell better than the previous games in Japan. That is probably what he was talking about.

>>14568813

World is Capcom's best selling game in their entire history and it was the top seller in Japan at launch.

>>14568813

Yeah it was number 1 selling game in japan for like 4 weeks. I think it was like the 4th console game in this decade to sell 2 million copies in Japan. Say whatever you want about MHW, I have plenty of problems with it too, but MHW along with the success of the switch, Splatoon 2 in particular, it showing that console games are a viable market in the Japan again.

>>14568650

>MHX/XX was the first in the series to not sell better than the previous games in Japan

I am sure that has nothing to do with it being worse than 4U at all.

>>14569193

beats me

I've never bothered with weapons outside the original weapons.

Also install the psp fonts

>>14569210

>Also install the psp fonts

how?

qwant isn't really giving any good results

>>14569306

https://mega.nz/#!9WAAjQ4T!xwvEu36W5NzI7EiVtUFGsR6oJVdBAscfPuKvfFOiqD0

Extract this in asset/flash0

>>14569483

post a screenshot of your font folder

>>14569510

which part of extracting do you not understand?

>>14569512

apparently the core concept

Do you want me to completely replace the font folder? If I did exactly that, I'd have lost my original fonts had I not backed them up. So what I did was put the original fonts folder files into "original font.rar" and extracted the files from your archive there.

>>14569541

Take this >>14569193 screenshot again.

I wanna see why this isn't working.

>>14569557

could you post a screenshot of your ppsspp executable directory?

>>14569584

The only solution I can see is a clean install of the latest dev build and then copy your memstick folder over.

>>14568650

>MHX/XX was the first in the series to not sell better than the previous games in Japan.

I don't know about XX, but X beat out literally every other game in 2015 despite coming out at the end of November of that year, and a few days into 2016 had outsold 4G's at-the-time lifetime sales. Either way, I'm pretty sure that guy wasn't actually talking about anything real, and was just shitposting.

>>14568813

Well enough that we probably won't ever get a real Monster Hunter 5.

>legiana set looks amazing

>has absolutely trash tier skills like airborne and divine protection, the best skills on it are 1 point of crit draw and some evade window

>can't even mix it in and make it look good because of its white/light blue that pretty much only Kadachi armor shares

I really hate this

>>14569620

Maybe eventually it outdid MH4? I'm not sure but I know when MHX came out there was kind of a deal made about the launch sales being disappointing. I think the base games sell better than the G versions so maybe they were comparing it 4's sales not 4G's.

>>14572960

>Transmog success will be RNG based and attempts will be purchasable with vouchers, after the 40 dollar World G dlc comes out

>>14575050

>Two bumps to keep the thread from 404ing

Christ, World really WAS a flash in the pan.

>>14575077

>Transmog success will be RNG based and attempts will be purchasable with vouchers, after the 60 dollar World G dlc comes out, and each transmog will last for the duration of one quest.

>>14576012

>April 1st

I haven't played this before, I've got ppsspp and a psp. which one does everyone play? since MH isnt coming to PC until later this year I've been wanting to play.

>>14576101

FU and or 3rd

>>14576101

Pretty sure the 3DS ones (3U, 4U, X, XX) work on Citra as well, but yeah, I'd go with >>14576228. If you read Nip it might be better to play 2G instead of FU; it's the same exact game as Freedom Unite but in menus O is confirm and X is cancel, which is the same as the rest of the series but reversed in Freedom Unite because of "localization".

>>14576101

FU/2nd G is the better one to cut your teeth on IMO, but P3 is also amazing.

>>14576535

3U and 4U are unplayable on anything that isn't a top of the line STP CPU.

>>14577347

Is it MT Framework or something? All of the MH games have been like this with emulation. It took fucking years before PPSPP could even get the audio working in MHFU.

>>14577595

Its just citra being a piece of shit. MHX/XX work fine.

>It took fucking years before PPSPP could even get the audio working in MHFU

That was because PPSSPP couldn't use Sony's copyrighted audio libraries and an open source alternative needed to be coded.

Started getting into Worlds lately, just beat the first Zorah Magdaros quest and unlocke the Coral Highlands, it's alright so far. I like some changes quite a bit and some not so much. Still trying to get a feel for the new controls, how good is Lance in this game? Gunlance SA and Hunting Horn are still solid and those were my go-tos in 4U, but I feel like branching out a bit.

>>14577802

Hunting horn is good indeed. Bazelried, xeno, and now the devil jho are the top tier ones for most situations. That may change come the new lagoon area, as there will likely be a bunch that kirin's lighting will work on.

Only seen one effective lance in my two hundred hours, you'd be a rare sort to play it right.

>>14577802

Lance is pretty good. Played well/with the right skills you're practically invincible, and the damage is solid since you can just keep on poking while shrugging off or countering attacks and roars.

Is there any squad leader online or any new squads? The online "sessions" suck BIG COCK for joining some randoms and doing random quests, and nobody says or responds shit in the chat.

>>14578708

You may have to wait until the sixth to get anyone from here on. Everyone has reached hr100 already and built all the shit they want.

>>14578258

don't listen to this lying sack of shit, HH is the worst it's ever been solo

>>14576101

Play P3rd if you wanna get softly into the series or FU if you wanna get into it raw, by which I mean the game will fuck your ass without lube but once you turn the tables and take control and start beating the monsters the satisfaction is out of this world.

>>14578921

Maybe

>>14577802

Lance is fucking amazing and is really difficult to put down once you start using it.

>In Teostras face 99% of the time while everyones attacking the legs and YOU are the one that staggers him doing all the damage to his head. Can tank the Nova with Guard Up.

>Val Haazak is a fucking joke and with Guard up you can block his death breath ground cloud, so you can just sit there and poke him pretty much all hunt. Your sharpness is gone faster than DB's due to this.

some people see you block the cloud and try it with their CB's or GL without Guard Up resulting in lols.

>Triple poke and Counter Kushala near infinitely as long as hes on the ground.

>Nerg is just a case of poking and blocking. Literally nothing special for lance with the exception of blocking the Nerg dive.

>4 directional shield advancing means you can always reposition safely provided you aren't next to one of the 34,783 LS users you see online.

>Diablos is EZ-PZ and only requires lvl 3 Guard. The go to monster for picking up lance.

>Super guard is meh, but the thrust counter can be used to wake up sleeping monsters if ya got no bombs or GS users.

>Mounting is situational but great.

>Lance charge is brilliant and will slice off Nergs tail and drop Val Haazak (With the finisher) as they limp off.

>Consider Flinch free lvl 1 as LS idiot tax due to those motherfuckers hitting you from on the other side of large Gold crown Teo and Val Haazk FFS.

The reason you don't see many lancers is becasue LS is fucking EVERYWHERE and you can't do shit till they finish a combo or fade slash your ass as you try to block a tempered monster attack. Or maybe its becasue it's not "flashy" like CB or 2EZ4U like LS and DB's.

501 Lance uses.

>>14579055

>DB

>2EZ4U

what are you talking about.DB are one of the hardest weapons

>>14579062

>what are you talking about.DB are one of the hardest weapons

HH is hard due to timing songs and attacks are S-l-o-w.

DB is basically fill a gauge, deactivate demon mode, spin around, get a combo off and then then top up with demon mode again.

With vitality and Evasion mantles DB's are pretty much pick up and go.

The only way its "Hard" is if you don't keep an eye on your gauge or run out of stamina because you got greedy.

>>14579084

>>14579277

Different attacks in Demon and Archdemon, attacks that lock you in place for a long time(mashing issue you mentioned).They are hardest weapon to play for me… *sobs*

>>14579287

Just like everyone else who ate shit learning when to demon dance when not to dance or drop a 30 hit combo.

Practice till you get the monsters timing.

>>14579084

HH is about dancing to the tunes. You have to just about stand in place for combos, and rolling does you no favors at all. Hell, if you sheath your weapon you've likely ruined a song as the only way to unsheathe is to play a note unless you decide to stand still for three seconds. Not good on the newer, aggressive, monsters. Teostara is my favorite for this reason, he's too proud to turn around or do that annoying as charging. Let's you really get up in his mane and go at it. Never carted to him once.

Small crown Odogaron and Kushala Daora on the other hand, the horn is practically useless on its own. You can't run down a fast/flighty opponent with a horn, but have to gotcha bitch as best you can.

Devil Jho though, if you get him onthe defensive, you'll have him flopping on the ground half the fight. Getting him there is the hard part, as he'll fuck up every recital unless you have full flinch free.

Positioning, timing, and positioning. Only lancers can understand the horn blower's troubles.

>>14581029

Dawn or dusk, find the big ass anklyosaurs, ghillie mantle before they see you. Approach, make character and camera 360 until they appear.

>>14537872

>Portable 3rd HD for PPSSPP (English Patched)

Is this fully translated? I had one before which was partially translated.

>>14581169

it's partial, some strange useless shit like quest info that doesn't matter at all is translated but other more important stuff isn't. It's enough to play it from start to finish, though MH is all icons and numbers so it's easy to play in moonrunes anyways.

>>14582171

>that armor

is that a Bnaharba female suit?

>>14582281

The Rhopessa one

>beat nibelsnarf, finally

>Found out the reason i had so much trouble was because i was fighting him at hr 1 with rarity 1 wep and chainmail

>Just unlocked him at hr4

Im so mad

Why is he a HR 2 guild quest?

>>14584426

If this is P3rd, 1 and 2 stars in the Guild are the easy mode versions, you don't have to do any of them.

>>14576012

That is one elaborate fucking April fools prank.

>>14581029

>>14584541

I managed to find one by accident. I was searching for him at the apotonith area in the ancient forest but I was mentally exhausted for looking for those little faggots so I went afk for a little break for a minute or two. Only when I came back is when I started hearing the chirping.

I also got lucky with the downy crake and caught it rather quickly, I even managed to catch two more effortlessly especially due to one trying to fly away but getting stuck in the wall instead

I hope you have fun finding that damn Coelacanth next

>>14584635

I don't understand how they cant fucking add lagiacrus on NEXT GEN technology.

They managed to put em on the god damn 3ds and wii but not on the ps4/xbone?

I heard it had something to do with its animation being kinda fucky, the weird uneven terrain in world probably has something to do with it too.

In that prototype it was looking fine so far though.

>>14584426

nibelsnarf is piss easy lad. By HR2 you should have some good weapons.

>>14585942

see, the original anon asked why Nibbie was a HR2 quest to which >>14584625 replied with "1* and 2 quests are easy". That's why I pointed out that it's actually a 4 HR2 quest. While there is a Nibbie quest in 2 HR1, it's not a key quest. Unless the replying anon was talking about the unnecessary quest, I think I read everything right.

https://www.stream.me/archive/gerpkin/mhp3rd-guild-quests/rYoBwZ8Jlj

1:06:50

I misremembered it, his left claw was already broken and he was hungry, I must've staggered him to put him in a fishable position. I just assumed you were hooking him by the uvula.

>>14584811

>They managed to put em on the god damn 3ds and wii but not on the ps4/xbone?

Clearly the 3DS is more technologically advanced than the PS4 and Xbone seriously, it's probably just because they focused so much on making stupid meaningless environmental garbage that adds nothing to the game that the engine is too limited in what it can actually do for monsters without getting overloaded.

>>14586410

>wondering at the HR nibel

To clarify, the high rank nibel. Frankly I can see how someone would get confused between HR, HR and * level, even in my posts only the context clarifies whether I'm trying to say High Rank or Hunter Rank

>>14587649

Monster Hunter XX should work for you on Citra.

>>14587603

When I first got into monster hunter, I didn't even know there were village quests until I got gud on the guild quests. I hate village quests now because they are too easy and yet I have to do them for specific items or to develop the village.

>>14587649

>>14587697

Kek, you guys are fucking idiots.

And this is coming from a 3u(3ds) baby who played the game properly on his first try, solo too.

I did keep equipping auto-block all the way up until G-rank though

>>14587665

>>14587685

My problem was that it was asking for extra files that you have to dump from a homebrew 3ds.

Tried 4u and Gen, does XX work differently?

>>14587899

nigger just download those files off of the internet.

does anyone have anything like a "4noobs" chart (or know some sort of resource online) which shows the various advantages disadvantages and/or the stats of the various weapons classes available in MH4U? ive had the game for a while, but my 3ds topscreen got fucked up and just recently picked myself up one of the new3ds. so i was looking to get into this game again, as i had a decent time with it for the month i was playing before my ds broke.

the problem is and was (and im getting a similar feeling now) that my autism is stressing me out with all the weapons and armor options. i cant decide which ones are the best and which ones to put all my upgrades into. the one i used the most last time was the insect glaive because it had a pretty cool moveset. if anyone has some tips to throw my way, id appreciate it. not looking to powergame and build some invincible build or anything like that. just wondering if anyone knows what are the comfiest weapons etc to use when starting out in MH4U?

>>14588551

>i cant decide which ones are the best and which ones to put all my upgrades into

Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

The main reason to use a specific armor set is for skills. Different skill sets are good for different monsters which means different armor/decoration combinations are good for different monsters.

As for weapons, most of them are pretty self explanatory. The main thing you want to keep in your mind are motion values or Power as listed here :http://kiranico.com/en/mh4u/wiki/weapons

which is the percentage of damage applied by a weapon when using that move.

As you can see most weapons don't do 100% of their damage values and then there are impact zones for different monsters to consider.

In MH4U the Charge Blade is pretty broken. The best weapon for you depends on what you want out of it. Give every weapon a try and see what gels with you.

>>14588570

whats wrong with it? it seems fun. i like being able to jump, its fast, and the various powers are fun to use. but i also want to find a good heavy weapon too

>>14588590

awesome thanks anon

I am making a roulette wheel for world and I was wondering what fun/obnoxious mutators you think I could add to the wheel to make the gun as hard or punishing as humanly possible for the ransoms/anons I decide to torture with it

So far I got

No Slinger

Permadeath

No mounting

No items

No eating

No mantles/Boosters

No armor

Useless mix set(make your set as counter intuitive as possible)

Fashion Show(Make your set as fabulous as possible.)

What else do you think I could add to male the game more random and fun?

>>14588764

>What else do you think I could add to male the game more random and fun?

Remove world

Add bigguy edition

>>14588784

I thought about doing it for 4U but there is an honest to goodness level of fuckery and pain involved with handling a 3ds monster hunter roulette. It's just simpler to do it on world. Imagine it landing on the fashion hunt one and having to wait for four anons to make a fashion set using the old interface. It would be llike herding cats.

>>14588805

Trying to get four Anons to do anything at all would be an exercise in futility. Just play single player.

>>14588832

I like it. Added.

>>14588832

No detection mode, can only use traps and sneak attacks.

Bring plenty of sleep bombs

>>14588832

There were a couple of quests like that in 4U I think. Your inventory had to be empty to accept or depart on the quest. There was another one where you had to fight multiple deviljho's in the arena with no armour. Man the quests in world are fucking boring.

>>14588848

I feel like they are generally easing the dick in for all of the new fags. The general vibe in the normalfag sphere is the game is too easy and lacking in content. The might be waiting for g rank or even the next game to go in dry with some of the more creative quests. I hope with the next game they drop all of the camping shit. Being able to restock at camp and eat after departing really takes the wind out of this game's sails.

How about Rodeo Mode?

You can only attack the monster with aerial attacks, and when you trip it by mounting.

>>14588879

I like being able to eat and access inventory for when you go into a quest and forget to refresh or eat. However I think you should lose access to them after like 5 or 10 minutes. Like maybe an airship drops you off on the quest and when it's gone it takes the kitchen and box with it or something. Maybe let you call it in every 30 minutes or something when freehunting to unload what you've gathered and restock.

>>14588879

>I feel like they are generally easing the dick in for all of the new fags.

That could be the case if the dick ever came.

>The general vibe in the normalfag sphere is the game is too easy

Considering GayjinHunter was complaining about World being too hard, I kind of doubt the completely new normalfags find it easy.

>>14588948

We already had Nyanjirou for unloading, that was more than enough.

>>14588958

Yeah but if you are on an expedition for a long while you will eventually need to restock.

>>14588979

Never really thought about that since I don't bother with those. I guess if you limited it to expeditions only and not actual quests that'd be fine?

>>14588985

Of course not during a quest.

>>14588958

The entire game is the dick for newfags. My completely normalfag friend picked up the game and despite being entirely outclassed by the starting monsters he has finally made it to high rank. Has it ever occurred to you that you are too good at monster hunter for you to be able to find it challenging anymore? Maybe you should move on to something else. Normalfags complain incessantly about how easy and thin the game's content is.

>>14589081

could you post some screencaps? I am not giving faceberg my clicks.

>>14589040

>Has it ever occurred to you that you are too good at monster hunter for you to be able to find it challenging anymore?

I do still find Monster Hunter games challenging though. World, on the other hand, isn't.

>>14589081

>Some complain about the grinding

Jesus christ these people love throwing buzzwords around the ironic thing being World is the grindiest Monster Hunter ever, but not for the actual hunts, just in the sense of the stupid "run around maps looking for clues to unlock the next urgent quest" shit

>>14589133

It takes like 15 minutes to get enough tracks to find the next assignment.

>>14589150

Which is still a completely unnecessary and boring waste of time that does not require any real engagement on the part of the player. It is absolutely the most grindy the series has ever been.

>>14589154

Yeah I still think as bad as X was it's deviant monsters was the best endgame grind. You had consistent rewards and it was challenging enough to be compelling for a lot of the deviants. It was just a little hard to find groups when you got towards the end if you were playing multiplayer.

>>14589081

Shits so easy to craft I'm surprised people made it past a month

Can't decide whether I like MH4U or P3rd more

MH4U is objectively better but P3rd was my first game and holds dearest MH memories

>>14590698

Eh, I'm not sure I'd say objectively better. I did enjoy P3rd more though.

>>14591189

>Eh, I'm not sure I'd say objectively better

Why do you think so?

>>14591684

P3rd's got a few things over 4U, like the lack of random annoying ledges, no cliffs, and otherwise better maps in general, a better village and atmosphere, and Nyan Jirou. I'd say 4U is better in a lot of ways, but P3rd has some things that are better then 4U, so claiming either one is "objectively better" is wrong. It depends on what you value more, which is entirely subjective.