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File: 2b6a54edc0cde2b⋯.jpg (192.1 KB, 1000x592, 125:74, azure.jpg)

09ae60 No.14535201

Are there any modern video games development companies who genuinely don't cut corners except for the most stringent of reasons?

In the distant, pre-internet past, corners would have been cut only for genuine problems such as hardware limitations. Even the crappy shovelware and port companies that you only hear horror stories of now rarely released games that were legitimately broken to the point of being unplayable. What the fuck happened?

72de25 No.14535207

Rareware (in the alternative universe that I live in)


09ae60 No.14535210

>>14535207

They cut corners so hard they accidentally slit their own throat.


e13493 No.14535212

File: 16b23c1bcd84dd0⋯.gif (1.56 MB, 500x281, 500:281, 1464862670786.gif)

>>14535201

Is your pic related? I've been meaning to get that game eventually.


8e3cc8 No.14535217

>>14535201

CDPR is one of the few I know off the top of my head.


79557d No.14535219

Just a hunch, but That winder audience that has been cultivated from the NES, to N64, to PS2, to WII has given the market a wider pool to sell low standards to. As well as the massive effect COD had on the public. At least now they have been contained to mobile hell.


09ae60 No.14535220

File: b7f5349d3d797ce⋯.png (753.79 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, that feel when.png)

>>14535212

no it's just a shoop I like to post


26fa96 No.14535245

>>14535201

Only a couple devs. Tom Biskup, Tarn Adams, that Aurora dude, maybe a few others.


0923b2 No.14535253

>>14535201

All companies cut corners nowadays. You're not going to escape that degeneracy anywhere


b9d762 No.14535450

File: 7a0574f358935c5⋯.jpg (117.01 KB, 1000x563, 1000:563, hideo-kojima-tribeca-games….jpg)

Time and budget are corners that are impossible to not cut.

There is a man who tried it once, and it was awful.


7a4d02 No.14535460

>>14535212

>Is your pic related? I've been meaning to get that game eventually.

I can confirm the switch version is an ass port. Game runs like absolute ass, and even when docked, there's tons of hiccups.


cc815d No.14535461

>>14535212

If you like yuri and cute girls doing cute things and are familiar with modern Gust games then yeah I recommend it. The sequel though is a bit of a disappointment and I only recommend that one if you really like Gust games and yuri.


e5d071 No.14535470

File: 93d95fe4e0f8504⋯.png (1.16 MB, 817x835, 817:835, 1503599631987.png)

>>14535212

Don't. It's a shallow game that barely qualifies as a sequel to the first one. The story is nonsensical and the gameplay is typical musou garbage with no need for any sort of tactics besides mashing square and occasionally guarding. On paper it sounds good with the partner abilities and the different partner quirks but it falls flat on its face as its not needed to utilize them.

However it does have nice tiddies but the yuri is a shallow imitation of what the first one attempted to achieve, which was this tragic romance. It's just downright bad. Avoid.


e13493 No.14535471

File: 7c6b73c04c7917e⋯.png (146.87 KB, 346x194, 173:97, Untitled.png)

>>14535460

>switch version

this is on a Nintendo console??


d3c973 No.14535492

>>14535471

This game has the boobs.


7a4d02 No.14535493

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>14535471

A ton of the recent Koei Tecmo games are(mostly in japan), they're not very good though. FE Warriors, and MAYBE the new zelda warriors game are the only ones that can hack it at 60fps, and you have to enable that shit in the options.


7a4d02 No.14535496

>>14535493

>are the only ones that can hack it at 60fps

*that i can find


5c8079 No.14535610

File: 13c7c382e8bc633⋯.png (1.34 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, vanillaware.png)

>>14535201

Pic related

Though a release is once in a lifetime, because of that and the fact it's a rather small studio.


cc815d No.14535627

>>14535610

Odin Sphere Leifthrasir puts every other remake/remaster to fucking shame. And to top it off they even included the original version with the remake so you could appreciate and decide for yourself if you like the changes they made. One of the few teams I still have goodwill towards.


cda3dc No.14535648

File: 32842b70fd9757f⋯.png (193.42 KB, 598x332, 299:166, The Vagrant.png)

>>14535610

What does /v/ think of The Vagrant?


50eadf No.14535692

>>14535471

Why are you so surprised? Resident Evil 4 is. Senran Kagura is.


225cb7 No.14535707

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>14535201

>What the fuck happened?

Games became more expensive to make. Previously it was that the developers who made expensive-looking games with the top of the line graphics and audio and effects were outliers, spending the money simply because they could. But today that is now a mandatory part of AAA development and since it costs so much to make games graphics mach today's standards, that means they necessarily have less in the way of content and polish. Indies, who are the most willing to spend the time to polish their games, are hit hardest by this, because hiring people to help them with their game goes well beyond their means in a lot of cases.


42c522 No.14535731

>>14535471

Xenoblade 2 is a Nintendo owned franchise and half the cast is designed by a dude that draws hentai. NoJ doesn't give a fuck, NoA and Treehouse are most of the problem. And even then I'm not really sure Treehouse is doing much of anything, I haven't seen their memeshit in any releases after Mario Color Splash and the butchered FE games.


2a90d5 No.14535751

File: fa83586034d1832⋯.jpg (119.24 KB, 641x417, 641:417, 2b6a54edc0cde2b273a2846dc7….jpg)

>>14535201

whats wrong with their faces?

>>14535493

>Nights of Azure 2 = Toukiden2 but with boobs

So does Koei Tecmo just keep remaking the same exact game but with slightly different gimmicks?

>>14535648

>early access

I think its a scam


631afb No.14535806

>>14535751

that's what homosexuality does to you


f5da26 No.14536955

>>14535731

Yeh fuck Treehouse.


96bcf5 No.14536968

No.


09ae60 No.14540078

Do you play on PS4 or PC, /v/?


d05c49 No.14540126

>>14535707

>Games are more expensive now! XD

Would you please stop spreading this lie? Games are cheaper than ever to make. Anyone can download Game Maker, Love, Unity or UE4 and dev away. If companies keep putting 70 faggots to make a bunch of rocks and 300 niggers to make mega textures so they can bloat game size, as well as hire the same tired union VAs we've all heard a million times, and some Pedowood celebs to do face scans, that's their deal. They could make way smaller, niche and focused projects, but I guess everything needs to be an open world, multiplayer shit with micro-kikery up the ass and skill trees hammered in because dopamine. Back in the NES days, people didn't even HAVE dev kits, also getting Nintendo to license your game was expensive and an uphill battle.


09ae60 No.14540460

File: c235e49fab0ae97⋯.jpg (28.92 KB, 600x600, 1:1, animu.jpg)

>>14540126

Expensive games are more expensive.

Cheap games can be made cheaper than ever.


fcf722 No.14541258

>>14540126

But inflation.


318918 No.14541268

>>14535201

CD Projekt Red

I'm not baiting.


412b8c No.14541275

>>14541268

you may not be baiting, but you sure don't know anything.


1bb6b2 No.14541279

>>14535707

It takes a lot less time and effort to get up and running than it used to.

For some gay reason small indie games think they need to waste money on things like expensive voice actors which nobody cares about.


10d3d7 No.14541301

>>14541268

Well you're wrong, they cut out two chapters from the second game. You were supposed to go to Dol Blathana or however you spell it after the battlefield.


318918 No.14541302

HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.

>>14541275

Thanks for that argument and evidence filled post, I'm really glad you replied. Here, a video summarizing why I believe what I do. The studio is apparently very badly managed, but extremely ambitious and will delay indefinitely to the point at which they believe the it's done.


412b8c No.14541313

>>14541302

Once more, you may not be baiting but you sure don't know anything. Cdpr didn't even implement hitstop. I'm not even sure they know what it is.


10d3d7 No.14541316

>>14541314

>>14541302

This shilling is so blatant that I'm almost convinced there's about to be a cyberpunk announcement.


318918 No.14541355

>>14541301

For artistic reasons or time reasons? I could believe a time constraint as if I remember the timeline correctly CDPR was under massive financial stress at the time of the second game's release and needed to get it out or face closure.

>>14541313

If you provided a quote of them promising to implement hit-stop or maybe justified it being necessary in the game you might have an argument. It's not a functional requirement for games to have. I wouldn't even go to say it's standard.

>>14541314

>but most AAA devs just want money

I don't think this is true. Individual AAA devs have very little sway over monetization and overall fuckery that get's put into modern big-budget games. I think they apply for [blank] studio with their favorite games published by that studio in mind. I think most people apply at a Valve because they loved Portal 2 or HL2.

>>14541316

>Post very neutral video discussing the positives and negatives of one of the only game studios left not fucking our asses and suddenly I'm a shill

Maybe you're just retarded. And Cyberpunk was practically confirmed to be at E3 at a financial conference they hosted sometime in the last month or two


c9d01c No.14541363

>>14535212

Frist one has a good score, a beautiful ascetic and an interesting story. The squeal was delayed multiple times and really is a travesty.


318918 No.14541379

>>14541363

I tried playing it for a couple hours but the combat was truly painful for me. It's like a destiny warriors but without any weapon/ character variation. Possible I just didn't give it enough of a chance though.


2a90d5 No.14541406

File: 57cff54f4f22854⋯.gif (567.31 KB, 360x263, 360:263, 1467264825681.gif)

>>14540460

Exactly, and the shovelware just puts downward pressure on market prices and on wages of the developers. Thus when there is a high budget AAA the producers are forced to play it extraordinarily safe and boring.


412b8c No.14541419

>>14541355

>justified it being necessary in the game

its an action game, it's as necessary as its been in games since the 1980s. There's really no discussion to be had. Unless you're an auteur or some sort of visionary that can eschew 30 years of game design because of some grand idea, someone like Fumito Ueda - there's no excuse in neglecting basic design principles. As far as I know, most of CDPR is American AAA staff and game design graduates with some people hired on contract (ie botanists.) CDPR isn't full of visionaries. They made a skyrim clone and wanted to make a better game than Skyrim. I think this is like saying "I want to make a better sword than your wooden one" but that was their goal with the witcher 3. They had every reason to not skew from established game design concepts.


318918 No.14541537

>>14541419

The claim that it's "necessary as it's been in games since the 1980s" is obviously fallacious. There's all sorts of mechanics that are cliche or commonplace in various genres that can be shed on a game by game basis without any negative effect. There isn't a set rule-book for making a great game, and if there was it wouldn't be based on how often certain things appear in games. All of this is ignoring how minor of a complaint this is, akin to criticizing a game for having a walking sound effect that doesn't change based on whether you're outside or inside.

Further evidence to this point is modern game development standards being micro-transactions, subscription models, and loot-boxes. Do you think that 30 years from now we'll be referring back to these "set design concepts" when someone tries to change them?

<cosmetics?

<you say we don't need them?

<its battle royale game, it's as necessary as its been in games since the 1980s. There's really no discussion to be had. Unless you're an auteur or some sort of visionary that can eschew 30 years of game design because of some grand idea

>CDPR isn't full of visionaries

I didn't claim it was, you would realize this if you'd watched even a couple minutes of the video I posted.

>They made a skyrim clone and wanted to make a better game than Skyrim.

Now this is where you lose me. Are you referring to The Witcher games? If you are I'd have to infer that you haven't actually played them.


10d3d7 No.14541547

>>14541355

>>14541537

You forgot the trademark symbol after "the WitcheR", shill.


318918 No.14541567

>>14541547

It's always amusing to watch someone accuse you of being a shill when you know full well you aren't one. No one is allowed to like anything on /v/ or else you're obviously an employee meant to waste hours on a dead image board driving 3 sales per month. Would you like me to provide a magnet link for you, niglet? Or would you like me to tell you that The Witcher 1 is shit? Shills only say positive things about games amirite?


fd7621 No.14543513

>>14541567

fug off shillcuck


318918 No.14543724

>>14543513

Don't even bother posting on this board, schizo.


10d3d7 No.14543730

>>14541567

>quoting the shill script line and verse

Always funny.


e2d076 No.14547543

>>14541567

Get out shill.


a6d415 No.14547747

>>14543730

>>quoting the shill script line and verse

Oh? Is there such a thing as a shill script? You wouldn't happen to have a copy archived, would you?


469d85 No.14547757

>>14535471

boing boing


a7bfd0 No.14552882

>>14535471

Senran Kagura was, so why not this


8957fd No.14553057

>>14535470

>Musoushit

>Less enemies than the musous on the PS2

>Is basically a Beat'em Up with waifus

<What're good old beat'em ups

You can't be this retarded.

But yeah, it's quite bad due to the enemy A.I. being braindead and the game not running on 60s due to the new game engine with shiny yuri graffix.


fcf722 No.14560594

>>14541268

Witcher 3 was shit though.




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